Ideal Logic Common Faults | Ex Ideal Gas Engineer Kevin
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- Опубликовано: 25 май 2022
- Gas Boiler Faults. Ex Ideal Boilers Heating Engineer Kevin talks to us about some of the faults with the ideal logic combi boiler and system boiler range. You could also get the same faults on the ideal logic heat only boilers. Ideal vogue could also suffers from some of the same boiler faults.
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Big thanks to Kevin, please keep these Ideal videos coming, great top tip to start with. Cheers Allen
Hi Kevin
These videos are fantastic, the illustrations are brilliant, your an absolute goldmine of knowledge on ideal boilers please keep them coming, John Heating Engineer from Dublin. 😍
Would love to see more videos Kevin , have watched everyone you have sent to Allen and love how you give so much detail that I really learn a lot every time . Much appreciated
Brilliant vid.. detailed explanation as usual from Kevin.
Thanks another great video to add to my collection from Mr ideal .thanks allen keep them coming.
Great video! Really helpful 👍
Keep them coming please!
Brilliant info as usual.from Kevin, more and more please
Definitely want to see lots more from you Kevin pls.
Great video. Well done guys .
Had a F2 fault on that generation boiler a few months ago. Boiler would light but go out. I did all usual checks gas vavle injector venturi cleaned heat exchanger checked flue and condensate but not sorted. I just did a training course with Ideal a few days ago and we were instructed to do a resistance check in the spark generator in megaohms. I was unaware of this at the time of break down but the Ideal trainer told me that unlike the next 2 generations of logics the flame rectification was tied in with this particular 2009 model combi's spark generator. Totally surprised me because the boiler would ignite but as i found out it did so with a fault included in with spark generator. You live and learn i suppose what made it worse was that it was located in a busy hair salon. One thing that i find with the Ideal logic installer and servicing manual is ther are no part numbers included in the parts legend page?. Great videos Alan kevin👍👍👍
Had this on a Remeha Quinta pro. Worked fine then an hour or too later ignition issues. Tested fine when cold but ignition transformer bolted to side of exchanger, not great 😀
Great tip thanks guys .👍😁
Thanks Kevin, very helpful. I hope your health has improved?
It would be wonderful to have more repair tip for the Logic👍
Thanks Allen for sharing👍👍
Stabilised for now. Thanks for the concern. 👍
@@kevincranfield5235 Pleased to hear it Kev👍👍👍
If you can do more stuff about logics because you have got me bang out of trouble on more than one occasion, thank you kev
Thanks Kevin, great stuff
Thanks Kevin and Allen, very informative videos. I've came across a few logics that have a howl/wailing noise which appears from the venturi area, sometimes helped with venturi cleaning out but not always and often intermittent with no fault codes. Do have any tips on identifying the cause?
Will be a dirty injector or gas valve issue. Go for injector first. If you can’t clean it. Replace it
Ive done a few of these faults. In every case if the boiler/fan/venturi are clean then its been the gas valve, particularly bad when on low rate, sometimes leading to a flame loss error due to the unstable flame. They can rumble like crazy on low rate.
I have an ideal and the other day my boiler was serviced, since then I turned the heating on and it went straight to 4 bar pressure in 5 mins
Plus I’ve started losing pressure gradually, over the past months the pressure has always been bad and I’ve had to refill
Very similar to Glowworm cxi old pressure sensor would make screen blank 👍👍
Had a few exchangers go lately, one was an ideal mini 4 years old. System was nice and clean too. Seems to be the weak part on these.
In general, find heat exchngers last longer when weather compensation is connected. The heat exchanger operates at a lower temperature most of the time.
More great advice 👍
Thank you sir. Hope you are well.
I have Alpha intec 28x boiler. And is no heating now...can you help me please?
Water is working well
Another possible cause for a blank display could be a water damaged flow turbine sensor.
Hi what if the display is lit, but the boiler doesnt ignite? no blue light is showing any more and no heating.
Ideal logic heat 18 hw off ch off room stat off micro switches on zone valves not stuck but boiler continues to fire any idea's appreciated
We have the Logic+S18 and the hot water isn't working independently. It does however work if the heating is on? What do you think could be the problem. I have searched videos but the closest I got was thinking it may be the turbine cartridge - could you help?
Zone valve faulty, Might be dirt in the system
How to fix ignition lockout please 🙏
Engineer is a big word for someone repairs boilers a car is more complicated then boiler 😂😂😂😂😂
I had a problem with mine. When showering going hot and warm. Changed the plate heat exchanger. Put it back together no leaks. But now saying F4 fault. Tried reset no joy a neighbour had a gas engineer come over he said might be 127 or 128 sensor. Any ideas
All fixed flow turbine and knock a flow sensor. God iam good
Hi burner not fire we did all you show in your video same modal gas pipe not open but when we reset burner on few sce than off do you know what is the problem pls help
You need to call a Plumber or Gas Safe Engineer. Thanks.
Is it possible to change the fuse to save the board ?
Obvious question and typically not addressed in the video. Also these guys never answer questions raised in the comments.
Hi Kevin, I have a logic that makes a rumble sound only on first fire, then it's ok? I've flushed the heat exchanger, checked the burner and condensate, still does it.... only on it's first ignition sequence, any ideas? Gas rate and combustion readings are fine.
Is it not under warranty?
almost certainly the gas valve. its a known issue. Put it in service mode low rate and if it rumbles then change the gas valve. hope this helps
If it’s the 24v Honeywell gas valve, then it is quite possible as there is a small white plastic cap inside which regulates the throttle on minimum fire which sticks. It allows too much oxygen and not enough gas to flow and therefore the flame extinguishes and try’s to relight itself on the burner which creates the sound. If it is an older model with a different valve then it could be the injector or flue seal etc etc. hard to say without being there.
Not under warranty, I've had it before and changed gas valve, still the same and it's the 240V valve?
I've had it before on the 24v valves and it's sorted it, bit not this time, like I say it only happens on first fire
Have you replaced the injector?
Unsoldering the fuse and inserting a new one is not a great task and would save a lot of money on a new pcb. What size is it, and where are they available? Most probably available in any electronics shop. Bad design in that they do not have a replaceable cartridge fuse. In fact a fuse carrier and replaceable cartridge fuse could be soldered in. Two wires soldered in, with an inline fuse carrier.
It’s not just the fuse. You still need the harness and transducer. At a manufacturer level, we don’t repair as a replacement is a much more reliable repair. But I agree with you that if you have the expertise then replacing the fuse is much cheaper. However I bet most plumbers won’t.
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Kevin, I am aware the harness and transducer needs to be bought. But the heavy expense of a new pcb can be avoided for a small cost and and 15 mins of time. If the fault reoccurs or other fault blowing the LV fuse, the fuse can be easily replaced.
I do have the skills to unsolder a component on a pcb. ;) In fact most plumbers could do it using a soldering iron and long nosed pliers to pull the ends on the fuse out one by one. Or in this case cut out the fuse, then solder the fuse holder"s wires to the lugs sticking out you used to do the test with the meter.
BTW, a place in Watford, CET LTD, does reconditioned exchange pcb's. Inc' Logics. Cheaper than a new one.
Hi Kevin, I had this fault today, low voltage fuse blown, green stain on transducer. Cleaned up connections on harnesses and transducer with oil spray. Replaced pcb and everything works OK. Made a jacket for the transducer with insulation tape. Thanks for the video
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Oil spray?
If water drips on the transducer again, the fuse will blow again.
What's the problem when it show2l
Why is it i cannot twist my Blue Switch to turn up the Pressure?
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1 fault on an old machine WTF 😂
No wonder ideal don’t want anything to do with him
Why?
This video needs a new title from: common faults ideal boiler to : ONE electrical fault because thats all the ramble was about! 👎👎👎👎
Perhaps just say thanks to kevin for info that could save ordinary people thousands.
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