Why NO ONE Plays: Sayu | Genshin Impact
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If you do Sayu the only non meta Anmeo charther than it is fair to do why no one play the only non meta hydro charther Barbara she had similar problem as Sayu but an later unit out class herand not good at exloperions and Qiqi
But sayu can use vv and increase the dmg from the team also her e has amazing synergy with xiangling allowing her to get almost twice as many hits on her ult if u roll around the enemies
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I think alot more characters could become viable if the maximum party size got increased to 5.
It's not that she's a bad unit, its just that most of her entire kit only benefits from open-world exploration. Her skill, and her being an anemo user are the things that make her good at it. In combat, however, her skill is hard to use. She does have decent healing, but that's it.
I want a guide to build her properly for exploration, not those who tries to make her a spiral abyss unit. I want to build her to a point where she will be useful in exploration but not overbuilt to the point where she uses up too much resources
@@WeiYinChan slap some vv on her with atk or em and recharge is what i did and i love her, shes actually my main to the point that now i have kazuha im being forced into double anemo lol the trick is learning her ball, and if you can group enemies up with some elements in the mix especially hydro and electro. pull a sonic through them until the suction ends and then kick so you hit as many as possible with the E, and i use the burst tp buy her off feild dps and heals fpr everyone else why they reset the field during the e cooldown. i suggest xianling or klee for pyro, kuki for electro off field electro aplication and healing sayu just incase, rosario for cold and as for hydro..... ive yet to find a best in slot but yelans e works pretty good fpr applying and out of combat mobility
well i think level 70 is fine if you want to healing bonus circlet then you can go em goblet then attack percentage sands or vice versa then if you like you can your sacrificial great sword then thats about it
Tbh i don't mind if a character is mostly just good for exploration, i think that concepts pretty cool
@Magpie F and you can even use barbara for hydro kuki is for electro or kaeya for cryo or xiangling for pyro
I use her in a team with Xiangling, Kaeya and Shinobu. Basically, she rolls around while everyone's burst and skill revolve around her. It's pretty funny to use and surprisingly good if you build her teammates decently with EM in mind
You spin me right round team
I saw someone use that in floor 11 and it looked really fun lmao
@@denzelherrman they see me rollin' team
Sayu Elemental Blender!
That does sound really fun, Once I get Xiangling, & Shinobu, I'm gonna try that.
Sayu is technically one of the most used units but never gets thrown in combat. Provides a small amount of healing, critter passive, anemo resonance, roll, and is an easy to obtain 4 star that you only need one copy of. If Sayu was a catalyst user there probably would've been some usage.
Rolling + Barbara E + Xianling Q + Kaeya Q = Melting Opponents.
Sayu needs very specific teams to do damage but she can do it 😕
Not really easy to obtain though. I really wanted to get her to C1, in 100 pulls I got just one of her, got a 5-star but lost 50-50. Now I have C1 Jean but only C0 Sayu.
Claymore makes her better for exploration, she can mine really well
One thing i like about her being claymore vs catalyst is that it allows her to be the "miner" of the party. Her lack of combat prowess really hurts her ability to be in a travel party because I would constantly have to change of her to clear other types of content :(
She's the uber i use to get around teyvat.
Sayu soup teams are legitimately very fun. Sayu + Kaeya + Xiangling + Barbara/Kuki results in a huge number of reactions while swirling all of it. Satisfying, even if not efficient.
Yeah! It's also really beautiful how there's so many colors on the screen. I mostly use Sayu with Xiangling, Barbara and Kuki since their reactions co-exist and you can trigger them alot.
@@internet_saikou same, bro... Hahhah... Itry him many times with kuki, barbara and xianglin
Yeah now I use her with Nilou, Yae and Collei C2 for hiperbloom. For sure not efficient, but it's sooo fun. And for abyss I've played her with Xiao, Xiangling and Yae, but I usually reemplace the last one with a buff, healer or a shield if I need it and considering the reactions I want to do.
I have to do it. I’m sorry in advance but, technically she is a Mujina which is a Japanese badger (also known as a racoon dog). Additionally according to her character story Mini Mujina it specifically says and I quote “I’m not a tanuki, I’m Sayu.” This is referring to whenever people mistakenly refer to her as a tanuki.
No Mujina's are not Racoon dogs they are actual racoons, Tanukis are racoon dogs. Which are canines who only look like racoons.
Wait so racoon dogs are actually a thing? I thought they were just making fun of chopper(one piece) by combining two animals to explain how weird they thing chopper is 😂
@@lucasb4862 Raccoon Dog is the English term used to describe tanuki, which is a real Japanese animal. Statues of tanuki can be found outside bars as they are a seen as a sign of good luck and fortune.
As a retired Sayu main, what she lacks the most is definitively CC. Her healing is quite good even when build for dmg and her dmg, for someone who was not meant to be a dps, is pretty good actually. My C2 Sayu on 4pc viridescend does around 45k-50k total with her E when she's rolling and hits an enemy every possible time (her E is crowned), tapping her E does 22k (every number is a crit of course) her crit ratio is 56/126 so pretty meh and she has 2,3k atk with 100 em-ish. Her burst doesn't do that much dmg (only 2,5k per proc) but she healed me 3,6k per tic (talent lv9) with no healing bonus. She also has er issues, even with a skyward pride equipped and ~30%er from artifacts her burst isn't up 100% of the time in a double anemo team (Sucrose as battery and cc support). She was my first main and carried me until late Inazuma when I got Xiao but she's way better as an exploratiom unit rather than a combat one. You can build her for dmg and if you pair her with someone like Sucrose, Venti or Kazuha for some actuall cc it's really fun!
I agree but I also feel like giving her CC would make her actually OP, like sucrose levels of OP, I think she has a place in freeze teams since freeze already a CC reaction sort of, and you don't need the EM boost from sucrose, so swap sayu in, apply VV and heal at the same time, and then the other two slots can be pure support for your dps, pretty good deal if you ask me
Sad to see you don't main her but you are right CC is kinda what determines anemo and a character who doesent have CC at all has all right heals and dmg is just outshined
@@sind2000 Except that she's a claymore user, so she'd cause shatter...
@@getdunkedon4126 also same reason why meta players don't like Heizou. Many find him really fun but if you're someone who likes to min-max then Sucrose is obviously a better option
@@Arania_3.14 only if she normal attacks, right?
I got Sayu when I was incredibly new to Genshin. But I was still in Mondstat and her materials were in Inazuma, so she ended up being compleetely useless for me. The same happened when I got Ningguang and Kujou Sara. I got region-blocked so hard 😔😭
That's why Genshin is a non-new-player-friendly game
I think by the time you are high enough level to need Ningguan's ascension materials, you should be able to reach Liyue and fight the geo hypostasis. Makes sense for the Inazuma characters though.
@@Agedude Technically you can even just ignore Mondstadt and simply walk straight into Liyue, which I did just for fun on my second acc, reaching Liyue harbour at like AR 8. I agree for Inazuma characters it is indeed unfortunate. On said 2nd acc Raiden Shogun was actually my first 5* which I couldn't use for an eternity.
@@Thylacinus Oooh. So THAT's what Eternity means!
Yea that's becoming a bigger and bigger problem with every update. No way Hoyo will force you to go to Snezhnaya to level certain characters lmao
Sayu was a life saver during those corrosion abysses. She's a portable Jean 🥺
Well, as a Sayu main....
You can roll off a cliff using Albedo's E, Zhongli's E, Travelers' E. It's pretty fun.
Sayu's E dmg increases when she rolls it's her c2.
Sayu is Sayu and Sayu's outfit is a Mujina not a Tanuki.
Her burst can be moved and has a wider AoE unlike Jean's.
Tip:
Hold Sayu's E then quickly release her E. It will make you get more particles without having to roll.
It also will deal the same dmg as her hold.
I do like how her burst can be moved. Every enemy in existence just loves to step out of the zone as soon as I put it.
Thanks for the hold tip, will use for my xiao comp
@@GalactoseGalaxy Make sure you don't hit two enemies or hit an enemy twice.
Hit only once with her roll then quickly release it.
Edit: Glad to be of help! ❤️
do you know if she can benefit from the passive of forest regalia since afaik anemo characters don’t trigger reactions
@@brahyonetta Yup! Thanks for the question she can actually benefit from it however, only if you absorb an element then trigger the required reaction.
For example:
Sayu absorbs Pyro with E skill then attacks an enemy applied with Dendro she can benefit from the passive.
It's kinda hard to do though unless you're using an aggravate, burning, or bloom only teamcomp.
For hyperbloom and burgeon there's a chance she can absorb hydro especially for hyperbloom,
since all Anemos (except Traveller) has this kind of elemental absorption priority: Pyro/Hydro/Electro/Cryo
For Traveller:
Cryo/Pyro/Hydro/Electro
As someone who enjoys farming and walking around on the open world I always have Sayu on my team. Between her and Kazuha I can literally get anywhere fairly quickly. I actually joined genshin because of her. I saw an ad of her rolling around Mondstadt and thought she was just too adorable not to play the game for. I was ecstatic to finally get her and she hasn't left my team since. My Kazuha and Diluc are a two man demolition team so Sayu never has to see any serious combat, she just has to keep them alive and she does a good job at that! I am and will never be in need of lizard tails, crystal flies or FROGS again. The amount of frogs I have now is ridiculous!! And the amount of frogs I needed before her was nuts! Now I practically have frogs coming out of my ears!! 10/10 frogs, everyone needs her if only for her passive alone!
100% agree she is a must have for every farmer. Without her farming to 2000 crystal flys would have been a lot harder :P .
Are you a man who just used the word adorable? 😂
@@jewishhella2481 Who ever said I was a man? XD
@@OmegaTheSillyWolf thank god lol
@@jewishhella2481 what's wrong with men saying "adorable" though? I don't see a problem with it lol it's just a word
sayu is my favourite chibi character. She's super cute and also really fun to play. I love just running into enemies and rolling with her. I have a Kazuha/Sayu exploration team and it's super fun :)
Honestly best two anemo characters for exploration, sayu feels like a godsend for exploration for a few reasons I feel. She can break ores quickly without needing zhongli / another character, she can use her skill to travel long distances, she can heal and do decent damage, and her passive lets you collect things without scaring them which is super handy (meanwhile the only thing aloy is good for is the 3 free wishes and the passive for meat lol)
Point is sayu is a jack of all trades but only for exploration, but that's okay, I still love using her
See like, this is why no one plays not why you play.
@@strikernate321 you can still state your reasoning as to why you like a character anyways? We know what the title of the video is my dude
@@strikernate321 did i ask?
@@kriiler dogs don’t ask, they listen
Sayu (and the upcoming Dori) is a munchkin with a greatsword. That's good enough for me.
I typically don't care for the "child" characters, but I think "small person with giant unwieldy weapon" is just the cutest thing, so I can make an exception.
So when you play a xiangling you can increase the amount of times her pyronado hits the opponent by walking counterclockwise around them. The only limitation to this is the speed at which you can make it around them. With sayu you can actually increase the amount that large enemies are hit even further. If you're doing all of this inside of a ayato burst.... Congratulations you are VV swirling both elements while vaping. That's just the tip of the iceberg. And the reason no one plays her is cuz they don't understand that she is literally a driver for orbital AOE
the problem is you will most likely prefer benett with xiangling for the dmg buff and battery, having bennet you don´t need a 2nd healer, but Yelan is funny with xiangling ult aswell and doesn´t conflict with bennet
I thought I'm the only one who does that pyronado spin, I use Sayu+Xiangling+Ayato+Raiden it's really fun for me.
I need to try this, sounds so much fun in overworld
@@sakutaro3musik486 Yelan also doesn't exactly benefit from being on a team with bennet.
@@Agedude but they don´t contradict each other. XQ also doesn´t benefit from bennet but they fill different roles and are great support for xiangling. sayu and bennet in one team sounds pretty bad, i wish sayu could also do the sunfire
when she first came out i fell in love with her. loved the design and the way her hood bounces, so i mained her and got her to lvl 90. but she was very underwhelming no matter the amount of investment i put into her. which is a shame really, i wish i had fun playing with her
LV80 + 3stars weapon + Shinobu + Xianlin
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She only needs EM(Viridescent Venerer) and level
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@@leegunring na, still not for me but thanks
I totally get you....it sucks leveling up a character you like and just realizing they're not that good as you expected... like they're not necessarily bad you really like them as a character but they aren't super strong either
Ive actually been using her with 965 elemental mastery and 4p viridescent. She's surprisingly serviceable Especially for dailies/exploration but other than that... yeah
Translation: “I farmed crazy artifacts for her and she’s still mediocre.”
@@twalker5801 Never said she was meta breaking. Maybe I take the words "Why no one plays" way too literally cause I do like playing her with exploration and early floors of Spiral abyss but yeah she definitely is middeing at best
ur sayu has better em that my kazuha 💀
@@asu_meii I'm sure he has EM claymore
@@asu_meii I don't think either my Kazoo nor Vetnee have artifacts with more than 200 EM 🥲
Sayu's E skill can be used in abyss to evade thunder manifestation's Cage that quite deadly if caught. Also no stamina needed
For me she can tank through that phase with her heals :D
i actually did this alot in the recent abyss :D
I feel like if hoyo just committed to making her a dedicated exploration unit she would be so much better.
this or giving her a buffing passive
I use her only during exploration and heard a lot of people that do the same, it's good for the dash + anemo ressonance with Kazuya + healing
But yeah, her hit just don't do enough for an anemo character. Anemo/Geo characters cannot just apply elements so she can only react, than her DMG isn't that good and her skill is slow to use in combat
She needs characters like Xiangling/Kaeya/Kuki/Ayato/Raiden/Fischl/Yae to perform well in abyss
It's not that she is bad, It's that everyone else (other than Anemo traveler) is better (well she is better than Jean but her burst is single target I think)
@@hatakekakashi3228 Anemo is just an strange element overall... Because of the reactions limitations (swirl is great, but not as complex/versitile as the others), almost every character is AMAZING in buffing the team and/or grouping to balance it out, but Sayu just doesn't have that to the same degree as these other Anemo Units...
Then the ressonance, while great in exploration, doesn't pay off in abyss since you're occupying 2 slots of normally elemental applicators to use 2 anemo units that will swirl most of the elements off leaving the other 2 probably don't reacting with themselves. And the VV buff can only apply once as well... So if you have at least one of Kazuha, Venti, Sucrose, etc. Adding Sayu won't increase the team viability as much as adding another
Hydro/Pyro/Cryo/Electro character
@@adv78 you are right
But regardless of it being worth, if I wanna build Sayu, I will build her even if it's on a weird Chongyun shattet comp
@@hatakekakashi3228 Yeah. Do what you want. I totally support that. The meta in this game is a joke and there is NO REASON on why to follow it. Abyss is easy and even if you don't complete it, you aren't missing much!
The point of the series "Why NO ONE Plays" it's just to analyze why some characters are less popular than others, and so was my point in the comment, feel free to build non-meta characters. It's cool, i built and used Electro Traveler in the abyss for a looong time
I would also say it's because she requires too much on field presence.
To make the most of her kit
She requires her skill to be held
And even when tapped what does it really do? Apply viridescent to 1 or 2 enemies?
Unlike sucrose, tap once, then you got like 5 or 10 enemies gathered, debuffed and you get an em boost
And a bit of anemo particals
Perhaps, Her kit is meant to be used as a constant anemo reactor. With characters like Xianling or Raiden
It is interesting you didn't cover her elemental infusion on her skill which is spectacular before 3.0 and now that aggravate is out she is low key amazing.
this is a good point
I love Sayu, she’s cute, really fun to play, and I completely emphasize with her desire to sleep all the time. But she’s someone I’ll always use im the open world rather than the abyss
Meanwhile I can't build an Abyss team without her. She's just so comfortable to use in the Abyss
Can I ask what team you use with her? And her build?
I use her in the abyss too, even after getting Jean I couldnt replacer her. Her skill (tap) has a very short CD and using the Inazuma forge sword I get the burst UP in no time,she will always have a spot in my permafreeze team.
İ assume its a soup team. İf so it sounds very funny and somewhat copium.
@@richardomilos8686 what does soup team mean?
@@DanhNguyen-gk9ru A team with 3 different element applicators and an anemo user. You completely ignore rotations and such and just spam reactions.
Of all the unbuilt characters I own, Sayu is by far the one I have used the most. She's always on my team for daily commissions and rolling around the world never gets old. The thing is, she doesn't need ANY investment to fill this role, because I really don't need 4 combat units just to to do commissions.
On another note, I sometimes give her a Cryo cup and infuse her as a Shenhe vehicle to roll over enemies until they die. That's pretty fun, too.
a unit like yunjin but for skill damage would skyrocket sayu's strength as a unit and i believe that is an ENEVITABLE unit that hoyoverse will make i also cannot think of many other units that can abuse it because most characters have single - triple hit skills will long cooldowns, and not the behemoth that is sayu's 40 combined hits. trust me sayu's time is comming
She is an exploration character and one of the best ones at that, I think she is fine as she is, she was just never meant for combat, I personally would never run her in abyss, that does not sound like a good idea lol, but definitely one of the most fun, easiest and most satisfying characters for open world exploration and I want more exploration based characters in the future as even though we do not need them, they make farming and moving around in the map just a lot more satisfying and easier.
Myeah, the enemies in the Abyss are so much bulkier than the ones on the open world that it feels pointless to judge a character's performance solely on it. Of course, if you use a mainly healer character in what essentially is a dps check, they're gonna underperform. But when you can pop Sayu's skill and kill half an enemy group by just rolling around and chaining swirls on the same single use of said skill and THEN use her ult, suddenly she becomes a lot more competent.
I did run Saya in Abyss because I didn't have Jean until now ㅠ_ㅠ
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After 2 years I finally got C1 Jean and still have never pulled a Keqing. That alone makes me think Sayu’s existence is worth it because 5 star rng can just straight up hate people.
True. I don't have Jean or Qiqi.
I rerolled my account to start with Jean. I still have a c0 Jean. It's true, 5* copies are a hiding mystery.
same. even with 2 years of playing, Keqing still refuse to come home me, i always get Qiqi :3
I think there's one more thing as a sayu main myself realised... that her skill (in rolling mode) actually made maybe because of the wolfs in Inazuma. Even Zhongli's shield is shaking. In the rolling mode, Sayu can both prevent the wolfs from attacking you and heals you if you ever get hit by it.
She is basically made to open world exploration. She can prevent crystalfly from scaring it, she us a claymore user with allowing us to break hard material, she can roll from enemy that you dont want you fight and due to her body being smol, she can fit to smol stuff too.
Other than that, i dont think she is not meant for battle just that she focuses on open world exploration.
Agree
1. as an anemo, she has no grouping ability
2. her skill takes forever if you wanna get the most out of it
so basically shes jean but worse cuz worse healing and worse damage
Not necessarily because she's an exploration unit, not a combat unit
She heals more than jean tho, but agreed
@@mariacancino95 Damn she does? i guess ive never put them side to side. But even so, jean is also used alot for the self swirl, which sayu does not have
I use Sayu in abyss and although her dmg isn't amazing, can't take her off the team - she's simply too cute 🥰💕
Hoyoverse clearly made sayu for exploration. Being anemo and healer and sonic and that great passive, yeah, Im sure exploration was in hoyoverse's mind while creating her kit.
She's perfect for exploration - skill for fast moving from place to place, anemo resonance, claymore for ores, the passive for collecting some creatures.
I actually want to build Sayu next for aggrevate teams. It looks like she needs a lot of energy recharge though! I'm also finishing up Yoiyima too. SO MANY CHARACTERS AAAA.
Also I have not been blessed with Jean. I would totally use Jean if I had her.
oh i used to run a sayu on my team, from my experience a sacrificial greatsword and an er sands is enough for her!! she regenerates energy really fast with her skill, and if you have her at c4 it's even faster :D
@@justlingplease thank you! I have her on a Sac sword already so I think I just need to grind for Viridescent pieces now! (ahahah "just" I say...)
@@RoseProseFroze feel that so much mate, godspeed!! hope you get the stats you need o7
You’ll get a jean eventually lol, it’s inevitable
Just build the inzuma claymore and you will not need much er
I used to have Jean as my main healer, but i retired her for Sayu bc:
-Jean: massive healing the moment u burst, but the continuous healing is low
-Sayu: low-medium initial healing, but good amount of CH to keep my team alive
I play Sayu and she is adorable. Also, the difference between Jean's burst and Sayu's burst is that you can actually MOVE Sayu's burst if you need to reposition it closer to enemies. I use Kazuha for it, to pull both the enemies towards it, and the burst center towards the enemies.
Sayu's damage does ramp up the longer you hold it with her constalation 2 though
i bet a lot of people started playing during the period of ayaka's rerun in 2.6, and ended up with a sayu. in that hypothetical, sayu would be the only anemo option other than anemo mc. and we all know how broken the 4pc instructor or 4 vv is, and sayu would be the one new players would use, especially because there's a drive to not use anemo mc
This one gonna hurt
At 11:36 you described her C2.
"DMG of Fuufuu Whirlwind Kick in Press Mode increased by 3.3%.
Every 0.5s in the Fuufuu Windwheel state will increase the DMG of this Fuufuu Whirlwind Kick by 3.3%. The maximum DMG increase possible through this method is 66%." The longer you're in her rolling state, the more damage her kick will be. And it's not a particularly hard constellation to receive
She is actually a very good character is you think about it, me being a sayu main i can say that she can apply VV shread even off- field, heal and be the vv shredder at the same time (tho it is like jean but she's a 5 star and she cannot do it off field) and she can infuse her skill with pyro and leave a fire trail behind her while she rolls.
VV set doesn't even work off field.
I have her C6 and she's pretty damn effective especially since I'm jean-less, heals a f*ckton of health with her burst and a decent 1k with her swirls, she also applies VV so that's two slots in one as long as you play around her energy problems, her and heizou are easily the 2 best 4* characters that came out of inazuma, at least to me, the rest are either too niche or just bad
i prefer niche units like sara and gorou but atleast they do their job really good, but everyone prefers something else
C6 looks amazing.
@@sakutaro3musik486 absolutely, I can totally see the ironic demand for the niche, but characters that I can use in more situations definitely fit my taste better
@@measlesplease1266 Fantastic if you solve the energy issue, damn near +7k HP per tick, and her ticks are pretty quick too
Maybe I'm insane but I think she is the anemo Noelle, does a lot, but is mediocre at everything
Of couse, Noelle focus more on damage while she on healing but you can understand
Sayu's Elemental Skill does have a thing where the longer time that you roll for then the stronger the end kick will be
thats a constellation
Tbh I completely understand the thumbnail color thing.
Sayu really is a joyful character to use, and she's VERY good for exploration. Love her.
She's very fun and a great healer, plus Viridescent user. So I'll keep using her but I'm interested what flaws people find her
Dont forget about her crystalfly anti-scare passive when talking about the positives of her in overworld exploration. It may not work how we all want it to, but it does help
One of the greatest ways I've seen people use sayu is in conjunction with xiangling's pyronado. How it works is that after casting xiangling's burst, you swap to sayu and rotating around an enemy in the counter clockwise direction, making it such that the pyronado stays in the same place, essentially making it such that you spin around the pyronado instead of the other way around. What this accomplishes is to deal massive damage to one enemy and constantly apply pyro (since xianling doesn't have ICD). Zyox did it in his 4 star character, no mouse spiral abyss video and I thought it's a creative way to use it. I think if paired with hydro imbued kazuha slash, it may be able to vaporise and deal even more damage. And for those who says that vars did that in the video, it wasn't done this way and was just normal spinning around that's all.
This! I think the tech he used there is so underrated, I enjoyed watching it and I myself used Sayu with xiangling that way many times to clear the abyss 3 stars
my thing is even if he used footage of it he doesn't mention the interaction AT ALL. and i guess thats just the nature of WNOP it is meant to show the faults of a unit so unique interactions aren't relevant unless they are really viable and help clear more than other options. which unfortunately this doesn't because XQ exists and that team slots in VV fairly easily
While maybe she may not be used by many for attack-based teams, personally (maybe it's because she is my favorite character), she is always on my team as a healer even if she is not the best at it. I simply enjoy her playstyle.
There is a difference between Jean's ult and Sayu's Ult
Sayu's can be moved around after it has been summoned while Jean's cannot
Just one thing I think you missed is that Sayu's C2 actually does incentivize using her skill for the full duration by giving you increased damage the longer you hold it. But what I think one of the big things about her is that she kind of has some confusing scaling between ATK, EM, and ER (C6 makes it a little easier to go full EM).
Another thing I think is that there's just not a lot of characters right now that can really compliment her playstyle because she kind of demands to have significant on-field time but she's not really a driver like Sucrose or Heizou because a lot of characters need to proc off-field dps with their autos but you're usually not using Sayu's autos. Her playstyle alone could be good with units with persistent on-field effects like Kokomi's jellyfish, Mona's skill, Fischl's Oz, Kuki's skill for taser comps but two of those are already healers so that's already redundant. Kaeya, Xiangling, and to a lesser extent Rosaria, work well with her but it's not really anything exceptional.
Beyond her gameplay while she does have a cute design and LilyPichu voicing her, the small child model characters usually aren't the most popular among the fans at least compared to the husbando or waifu characters so that's also point that might contribute to her situation.
All sorts of movement like sayus roll but also ayakas, monas, ... sprintanimation, as well as yelans E will get a quality of life improvement in 3.0! we will be able to climb stairs more easily without getting stuck in every single crack there is :) so sayu will be even better for exporation!
Btw, I play Sayu. She was in my first abyss clear team. I play since 2.4 and since I recognized this game has no real end game I built who ever I like with not really crazy stats, just 30CV artifacts is plenty enough power to clear all and let’s you focus on a wide variety of characters and not cry too much about artifacts RNG. 3-4 weeks per unit is enough time to get them to lvl9 talents ans decent stats and then go on to next. As welkin/BP spender this is mich more enjoyable then spending month on a single character and need a year to built 2 teams. I built 3 in 4month. Raiden Hypercarry, Ayaka Freeze and lately Yoimiya Vape. Which is enough and Sayu was in my Raiden Team before I could get Kazuha,
This brings up alot of good points about how Sayu's kit is lacking, sayu is one of the characters that really needs a buff , or atleast somewhere where shes actually good
When you finish a domain in 5 seconds immediately after you click the key, the only way to speed up clear times is faster movement speed.
Sayu's biggest role is the role consolidation of healer, 2nd anemo and mobility for exploration teams. That way you potentially get 2 remaining character slots that can do damage, instead of 1 when you did not consolidate the role Sayu takes.
ex. in week 1 the exploration team was Jean/Mona/Razor or Kaeya/Venti
Now we can do Sayu/Yelan/Flex/Kazuha
Surprised to see this before WNOP Thoma, since you advertised that first. Is it because there’s a chance that he and Shinobu might find some uses out of Dendro that you’re holding off on talking about them?
But back to Sayu, she was the first 4 star I got outside of the starter characters and has been a part of my overworld team after I got the materials to level her enough. She’s by no means meta, but she doesn’t have to be.
Thoma might be good for burgeon because his pyro app is bad and inconsistent and burgeon works with dmg dealt so he can go boom boom
Well if played with a slow hydro applicator (Kokomi hello)
@@hatakekakashi3228 We don't know if Burgeon is any good to begin with. Also Thoma has no Em scaling in his kit, plus he needs lots of Energy. EM build Thoma results in a very poor shield, which was the point of his whole kit. At least Sayu has an EM ascension, C6 scales with EM, and gets swirls. Thoma was never designed with Dendro in mind, he was datamined back in 1.1. He was supposed to be pyro Xingqiu, but Hoyo nerfed him into oblivion, hence his nearly identical base stats with XQ as well as the useless attack ascension.
@@QuackEasy well 1.1 leaks until 2.2 like bruh, ofc his kit isn't the same
And sure getting EM on Thoma woulf be hard since he only wants HP and ER right now, but maybe burgeon is a reaction with no ICD as long as hydro and dendro are applied fast enough ?
@@QuackEasy And... If people say it's gonna be good, it's gonna be good. Who cares if his shield will be weaker. When you build Xingqiu or Beidou do you care of their shielding and healing is going to be bad. No, you don't
@@QuackEasy honestly i don't really care at all about the shield since for burgeon teams i really prefer having a defensive option and sometimes XQ and he and Thoma can both provide decent mitigation, also it's just EM and ER, HP substats are nice though and he has a craftable weapon.
Ahh yes, my anemo unit in a makeshift taser team because sucrose fits really well with national on the other side.
Just watched the video..
11:38 it does..but you'd need the constellation for that
Anyway, I feel like you're over exaggerating on why she's not a good unit. Also, you can't compare the kit of a 5 star and 4 star. Coz if the 4 star's kit is better than the 5 star, it makes no sense to even pull for the 5 star.
Hahahaha omg
but I really want her tho her dash looks pretty useful
also 3.0 fixed all alternative dash
Sayu is pretty good as a healer. Her ult ticks really fast and has very decent range. I find she's easier to use than Kokomi who's E ticks too slow and sometimes cause death.
If you’re dying with Kokomi then you just need to get better at the game tbh
Clearly you are doing something wrong with your kokomi. Kokomi heals soooo much that the game literally gave her a set that does damage based on her healing. I have never used sayu for her healing abilities so cant say anything there.
I love playing her in a xianling team with geo daddy and just be a rolling ring of fire. Only real gripe with her is that her rolling doesn't trigger other characters attacks; rain swords, Beidou's ult, etc cause a rolling taser would have been fun
It procs Raiden's skill.. But at rhat point why not just use Raiden? Also Dori's burst makes her roll immediately Electro.
sad to see my girl Sayu in a WNOP episode. It´s true, since i got kazuha, i don´t use her in the abyss anymore, but she was my only Anemo unit besides the traveller for a long time and i still use her daily for comissions or tasks in the open world. She is just great for traveling
People may not want to use her because they have only one thing in mind and it is vv build and abyss rotation.
She is quite good for world exploration, some did crazy stuff with her like shatter build, the new upcoming attack/em set could be great on her
Shatter build is fun and meme as hell
I wish her roll ramped up in damage and her kick at the end also did damage based on total distance traveled, and her burst gives her skill and teammates movement speed. Making a speedy team would be so cool and fun just being able to run around enemies and swirling everything at the same time even faster than before.
My favorite way of using her is if I don’t have a team with a variety of elemental coverage, I can use her to grab elements from the environment or other enemies. I mostly use it to break shields or other environmental stuff.
I use her in my exploration team but thats about it
She is anemo, has alt sprint, uses a claymore and can heal
Very nice- though i wouldn’t say worth raising past like lvl 70 unless hardcore sayu stan
I always have Sayu in my overworld team when farming artifact investigation spots. Speeds up the route significantly. No regrets building her.
As for Abyss, she's basically mini-Jean. VV + heal, but with less damage. If you don't have Jean, then she's an option.
As Jean isn't exactly highly played herself, I actually think that the pressure comes more from the other direction: healer Sucrose.
It would be difficult to improve utility in Sayu's kit enough that she could still compete with one of the most broken units in the game.
I use sayu literally everywhere i just love rolling around
Her rolling ability reminds me a lot of the doedicurus from Ark: Survival Evolved. It's basically an armoured armadillo-like creature that you can ride on the back of and has a spiky tail which you can use to harvest rocks for stone, but it can also roll up into a ball to protect itself or use it like Sayu does to travel around the map or get away from danger.
Basically, they should have taken the doedicurus from Ark as inspiration and made Sayus roll ability harvest ores
Oddly enough though, I ended up building Sayu up because per my play-style, she was exactly what i needed for my 2nd team comp to FINALLY be able to finish spiral abyss. 😅
Her healy-dealy was the main thing i needed, but her spin-dash (lol) was actually super helpful for me to waste time to build up energy for the rest of the teams' bursts without accidentally letting any of them die 😬
Sayu is probably EXTREMELY popular. Just not in the Abyss. And honestly, with the upcoming 10 preset party slots, everyone will have her on the overworld slot, she's really good!
I was very surprised that her ability to collect crystal flies was not mentioned. Like literally that was her selling point for me.
Sayu's kick does increase in damage the longer she spins; 11:35
actually she does have a constellation that increases her kick damage based on how long she spent rolling
also i've been playing since 1.5 and somehow don't have qiqi or keqing, so there're definitely people out there who don't have jean, and there'll also be new players who won't have any character at all
Yeah I've been playing since 1.3 and still don't have jean
For new players, though, she has two drawbacks. First, she's from Inazuma. And that means if she isn't featured, you cannot ascend her, leaving her with a max level of 20. If she, or another character with Naku Weeds, is featured, then you can get to her 40. But that's where you are capped until you get far enough into the story. And second to that, most of her healing is in her burst. And for many a new player, well, their energy generation won't be great, due to a lack of good artifact substats, knowledge of how to build, lack of Favonius weapons, and so on. And they're unlikely to know about VV, and if they do, then they probably have heard that "wait until AR 45 so you can get five star artifacts" bit, and therefore don't know that VV's is worth just getting a four star set.
She's very good for exploration in so many ways, but is never the first option or even an option to think of when putting her in battle teams
Many people seem to forgot that her E roll CAN heal every character
The thing with Sayu (and actually most Anemo Characters) is that VV debuff isn't applied off-field.
Also, she has a lot of energy issues without her C4.
Needless to say that she's one of the most affected victims of ICD, her swirls heal, but both her skill and burst aren't reliable at applying anemo to swirl.
It's not that she's bad, but she offers almost nothing more than a Jean would at C0.
I really like her, but there isn't somewhere I could use her properly.
Sayu is crucial for Domain rotation.
Nobody goes through domain farming as fast as she does when she can spin her way to the tree and back.
@11:35 Am I mistaken. I think one of her constellations does exactly that. More damage on the kick based on how long you spent rolling (regardless of how many enemies you hit during the roll).
Why NO ONE Plays: Sayu... except me, I have an on field cyro Sayu build that wrecking abyss floors, unless the enemies are cyro immune.
One thing to note about how you can't roll off cliffs with her is that you can roll your way across narrow paths, like the ropes in parts of the chasm with no risk of falling down. Does that change any of your points? Not remotely. but it is a neat trick.
Alot of people plays sayu, mainly for exploration but genshin is mostly and around exploration and shes built around exploration . Abyss is just the only place shes not used in. i feel like she shouldn't be on why no one plays
Yeah, like, seriously, why does everything has to spin around the Abyss when it's nothing but a way to get primogems for the characters you like? It's only good for that or for RUclipsr randomized teams runs videos.
I've been thinking about building Sayu recently so thanks for the good info. Semi relatedly I have only lost the 50/50 once in getting 20 5 star characters/constellations so unfortunately I don't have Jean, and the only time I lost it was in the same 10 pull after getting Shenhe, and I got Mona c1. I still do not have Diluc or Keqing either since I seem to get mostly weapons from the standard banner. Part of me always wishes I would lose the 50/50 and get her or Keqing!
I play GI since release and I do not have Jean currently, so for healing, a little bit of damage and as an anemo battery, sayu is the best choice in a Xiaomorax team if u don't have Jea
It's just so fun to do coop with DPS Sayu - most people great you and are really supportive (quite the opposite to joining with Kuki)
OH SHUCKS I ACTUALLY DIDNT EXPECT THIS...
But yeah, kinda the hard truth I guess...
Sayu’s c1,c2 and her passive talents should all definitely be in her regular kit as for what I would change her constellations and talent to.
NEW passive talent|Adrenaline Kick: whenever Sayu does a full Fuuin Dash and also hits an enemy with her dash kick the entire party will lose 50% less stamina for charged attacks while bow characters can charge their shots 20% faster ,this effects lasts for 10 seconds.
NEW C1|Daruma Diversity:when the Muji Muji daruma doll is hit by an elemental attack of your team it’s eyes and area will turn into the element’s color.All enemies within the area will also get the elemental effect after 5 seconds.You can change the effect of the daruma by hitting it with another elemental attack ,during this time the daruma will also deal elemental damage of whichever element you attacked it with.
NEW C2|5 More Minutes :whenever Sayu is switched out with less than 10%hp and is not used for longer than 5 seconds a bar will appear above her in your party this bar indicates how long you haven’t used her ,for every 10 seconds that she isn’t used she will gain 20% she can only heal to 65% of her health until she stops healing.
Two more ideas that could be in her kit:
Being able to pick up her Daruma and place it somewhere else ,when you place it down it will have the same amount of time it had left as when you picked it up.
I could see Sayu having a different sprint(like Ayaka)that makes her invisible to enemies. She could throw down a smoke bomb and once you do that she’s a little see through ,this could be fun for new player that want to explore but don’t want to die because of enemies.
not a fan of the passive, what charge attack user would just let sayu take 10 seconds of field time for a small stamina reduction?
c1 sounds cool actually its like a single target kazuha burst ( or maybe you mean JUST the elemental damage) that can change elements at will
c2 um i like the off field idea but she heals WAY too much for her to proc this
smoke bomb/ alt sprint idea is also pretty cool
Quick note: her skill (or at least, the ending strike) does ramp in damage based on roll duration, though it is locked behind constellation 2
She could be used to fill one very specific niche. To get melee characters in range of bosses who run away a lot like Maguu Kenki and Thunder Manifestation.
If only her skill wasn’t on cooldown every time I actually need it for this exact purpose. 🥲
She doesn’t seem like a character who has any bad design, combat-wise, but in truth, I just see her as a Jean alternative: a four-star Anemo ATK-scaling healer. For people who don’t have Jean yet, Sayu could be a good alternative, but once you get her, there’s no need to use Sayu over Jean unless you need an Anemo healer for your second team.
I think the only way Sayu could possibly outperform Jean is if you can get her to C6 and use an EM build.
Not really, Sayu is better in AOE content and can proc VV while off-field
Her A4 is completely worthless. Only works in Co-op, and even then its only 20% of the normal healing, which is nowhere near enough for co-op.
@@QuackEasy actually, her A4 also applies to off-field party members in solo. So if your whole party needs to heal, you don’t have to switch out anyone in order to heal them
Budget jean
Yae Miko, Kazuha, Yelan, and Sayu are my exploration team, and honestly I never ran out of stamina when running around, and I appreciate dearly now I'm exploring Sumeru
If you place travelers rock or zhongli pillar on a tall place like dragon spine and start her E on the construct at the end if the constructs duration you Can actually Roll in the Air✨
Hope the title is bait, she's bloody amazing fun, and VERY useful. Full EM Sayu is life.
i guess i dont exist
Woah I wasn’t expecting a GW2 sponsorship. Congrats!
Pretty funny that you nailed it on the head, since new dendro synergies gave thoma a LOT of attention, most specifically the burgeon teams
No one can convince me that the root of Sayu’s problems is ANYTHING OTHER than that she was slated to be a Dendro character and HoYo decided to re-do her kit into Anemo for an earlier release.
How can I think that??
• Her entire tan, brown, and green aesthetic is 100% plant-oriented.
• Daruma is a doll made of wood.
• She has a leaf on her forehead.
• She is cosplaying as a woodland creature known as a “tree-dog.”
• She is lazy and doesn’t like to work, but has dreams of growing really tall and strong - that’s what plants do.
• The Transformation Technique (Naruto’s “Henge no jutsu”) trope typically replaces the ninja with a log of wood.
If she’d been Dendro:
• She would’ve been the #1 character for wide and long-lasting area of Dendro application.
• She would’ve been the first - and, for a while, only - Dendro healer.
My thoughts for changes in her kit would be:
• Her Elemental Skill actually leaves Daruma behind as a decoy while she dashes at the same speed (with i-frames) to another area, and using it again teleports her to it for AoE Dendro application (similar to Keqing).
• She no longer scales off of ATK, but off of Elemental Mastery.
• Her Burst no longer deals damage, but simply recurs Dendro Application, with her kit based around boosting the effects of Dendro-based Elemental Reactions.
You can say that I’m wrong, but you’d be wrong.
Sayu was originally planned to be Dendro.
Sayu is loads of fun to play. My only complaint with Sayu is the ICD of her swirls. I wish it was maybe a half second or a second less. Maybe a little bit of grouping on her burst would have been nice to help maximize her roll (and role).
Edit: I forgot about the end lag on her skill. It's actually quite atrocious and I frequently get punished for not cancelling out of her roll before her final kick.
Among my 4 stars, she's my only level 90, others are max ascension but stayed level 80.
I really love exploration and it makes farming enjoyable.
I will say, as an anemo main, it is _sometimes_ particularly useful that the daruma can be moved after placing it by hitting it with another anemo attack. If it gets caught up in heizou's anything or kazuha's e or venti's q it goes with that attack. Jean's is stationary.
Good video, just one thing tho. You mentioned at 11:50 that it would have been good if her final kick's damage increased the longer you are in the rolling state...but her c2 does exactly that
I main sayu actually and she does 60k kicks ! And 10k hits, but i triple crowned her and invested everything into her, i love her a lot !! She’s actually a great healer in my opinion.. if 12k per tick is good :)
Rolling Around At th Speed of Sound, Got Places to Go, Got To Follow the Rainbow
Sayu is queen of overworld, spin to win and able to break rocks. And with the alternate sprint fixes, she'll be even more fun. But yeah, for combat I never use her.
Spin to win, breaks rocks, healing, anemo resonance, wildlife doesn't run away. She and Venti are permanent units in my overworld team