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  • Опубликовано: 27 мар 2021
  • Think before you buy, that's key! Steve lays out some ideas that might steer you to a wiser outcome.
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  • @woohunter1
    @woohunter1 3 года назад +87

    I really miss the days of having a couple of hi-if shops in every town, now I have to rely on online reviews.

    • @larrywe3320
      @larrywe3320 3 года назад +9

      That is one reason I'm glad I am old :) I was a young teen in the good old days - late 60s

    • @DW11111
      @DW11111 3 года назад +6

      All the more reason for things like this I'll support local even if I pay a few bucks more. If I feel comfortable buying a widget online based solely on 3rd party information, fine, but if I have to step into a store to see/feel/hold/listen/etc then its getting bought at a store if I pull the trigger. I used to work retail and nothing infuriated me more than people coming in using us as a place to see the item only to go home and buy it online.

    • @HareDeLune
      @HareDeLune 3 года назад +1

      @GeneralCurtis3LeMay
      > E R E H P S S P H E R E

    • @clasvirhodes4969
      @clasvirhodes4969 3 года назад +3

      @@larrywe3320 music was exciting from 1964-1980. Started going downhill after that.

    • @tomhound273
      @tomhound273 3 года назад +1

      @GeneralCurtis3LeMay i don't know - A lot of the guys here on the street do have music or radio. If you keep changing your partners then you will have memories over your entire musical history. lol

  • @jhess77
    @jhess77 3 года назад +10

    “The speaker plays the room”. Damn that’s deep. Very true.

    • @sylaw16
      @sylaw16 3 года назад

      unless you have a open baffle speaker. :3

    • @jhess77
      @jhess77 3 года назад

      @@sylaw16 Are you trying to say that open baffle speakers aren’t affected by room acoustics???

  • @derekschutte9734
    @derekschutte9734 3 года назад +1

    Ohm speakers. Thank you. Love this speaker since1982. My first true hi -fi

  • @charlesjefferis8812
    @charlesjefferis8812 3 года назад +12

    OMG, I just got two thumbs up from Steve, validating my two recent purchases. . . Ohm Walsh Tall 2000 speakers and Yamaha AS801 integrated amp. . WOOHOO, my life is fulfilled!! :)

    • @deeplyclosetedindividual
      @deeplyclosetedindividual 3 года назад +1

      I bet those Ohms sound fantastic. I've heard quite a few different Ohms, and all of them were great.

    • @scottlewis815
      @scottlewis815 3 года назад +2

      @@deeplyclosetedindividual me two. Added a Topping D90 dac and couldn’t be happier!

    • @almcgowan5289
      @almcgowan5289 3 года назад +1

      totally agree! I got a pair of Walsh 3000's last year and love them!!! Paired with NAD M33 very, very happy with the combo!

    • @christinearmington
      @christinearmington 3 года назад

      Did you consider whether an integrated tube amp could drive them well?

  • @quantumdave1592
    @quantumdave1592 3 года назад +2

    Truer words were never spoken...just went through this scenario! Think hard about what will work best in your room.

  • @jeffreymilam8335
    @jeffreymilam8335 3 года назад +2

    Thank you Steve for continuing to share you knowledge and wisdom. Thanks to your information , I have a great system. Thank you.

  • @l.b.stringfellow2413
    @l.b.stringfellow2413 3 года назад +3

    Thank you for another wonderful and VERY relevant review.. You absolutely addressed an issue many of us wrestle with. You have a very special way of delivering a message. Another fantastic educational video

  • @stimpy1226
    @stimpy1226 3 года назад +2

    Hit the nail on the head. I just posted that line to a a reply to another viewer’s comment.

  • @garypalmer5031
    @garypalmer5031 3 года назад +2

    Hi Steve, your video's are so educational. I am new in the audio world and your video's helped me a lot. Thanks Steve

  • @BicycleJoeTomasello
    @BicycleJoeTomasello 3 года назад +14

    I am an audiophile, and when the sound is not right I notice immediately and then go back to listening to the music.
    I do not need hyper high fidelity to enjoy the message of the performance. With me when it comes down to it, it's always the music never the medium. A live performance almost never has the quality of sound that I can replicate in my own living room but I sure enjoy being in that Live room more .

    • @Mikexception
      @Mikexception 3 года назад +1

      I like music too much to accept that I am deliberately loosing any possible miracle impressions. My system is permanent but every day when I put it "on" and start after last day use with TV or PC I noticed with kind a surprise it that it takes me about 5 min to set conditions to that mentioned expectation It covers setting perfect volume levels which are three one by one with loudness option , closing room doors and adopting tone correction to source and chosen amplifier because I choose between solid and tube

    • @BicycleJoeTomasello
      @BicycleJoeTomasello 3 года назад

      @@drsb26 NEEDS A MUTE BUTTON

  • @hastingsbnsfnscalemodeler8594
    @hastingsbnsfnscalemodeler8594 3 года назад +6

    Hi Steve. Thanks for all your great advice.

  • @user-od9iz9cv1w
    @user-od9iz9cv1w 3 года назад +5

    Another video packed full of wisdom.

  • @ricknelson3201
    @ricknelson3201 3 года назад

    Thank you Steve for your great knowledge and delivery

  • @photobriangray
    @photobriangray 3 года назад +1

    I was toying with the idea of new speakers, but instead started with repositioning, wider, more toe-in further from the wall, new rug, re-running room correction, adding some treatments, moving the sub, re-running room correction and now I have a new system.

  • @abhimawa1
    @abhimawa1 3 года назад +1

    Spot on, Steve 👍

  • @DGA2000
    @DGA2000 3 года назад +1

    This video was timed perfectly with my search for speakers and I learned a LOT from it. I never realized what a Pandora's box is opened when searching out speakers and I've felt overwhelmed by the number of manufacturers and models. Thanks for your guidance in my quest.

  • @carlitomelon4610
    @carlitomelon4610 3 года назад +2

    Thanks Steve. Good summary. The room is a huge influence on the sound. Treat it nice;-)

  • @johnruppert5630
    @johnruppert5630 3 года назад

    Very very true! Room size , dimensions, reflective surfaces etc. can make or break a good speaker.

  • @archiemacdonald553
    @archiemacdonald553 3 года назад +9

    yes steve this is the dilemma .when you cant get to bring them home for a test run .its like throwing the dices .all best from scotland 😊😊😊

  • @ML-rm3vk
    @ML-rm3vk 3 года назад +1

    great video wonderful insight thank you.

  • @ttrrs_o3498
    @ttrrs_o3498 3 года назад +1

    Oh the tangled webs we weave-knocking on the ceiling-plus I had a 26 inch bass drum in my set-can’t substitute sub bass for honest bass-ala. upright tight!

  • @fletchermunson6225
    @fletchermunson6225 3 года назад

    Thanks for all your audio advice Steve. Words of wisdom.
    I guess you could convert your garage to a listening room so when you open the garage door, your room size becomes infinite.

  • @Wacoal34d
    @Wacoal34d 3 года назад +2

    If I was lucky enough to have direct advice from Steve, I would take it!

  • @VisciousHippo
    @VisciousHippo 3 года назад +2

    I have a small room (14x11) and I made a rash decision to buy kef reference 3s. Best decision I ever made... Maybe lots of room treatment is helping.

  • @walterpen371
    @walterpen371 3 года назад +1

    I agree with your comments. However a very reputable stereo shop/ salesman/ owner who are extremely knowledgeable will know what will sound best for your listening needs. Hence I've experienced this back in 1979 where I purchased my first stereo system that I STILL OWN. NO BS OF SELLING WHAT YOU DON'T WANT OR NEED. Full communication results in RESPECT AND INTEGRARATY.

  • @davidmiller1534
    @davidmiller1534 3 года назад

    This point is well made - when I look at photos posted by audiophiles of their listening room I often see enormous speakers shoehorned into tiny rooms. On the other hand, I'm starting to get the impression that Steve prefers stand mounted over floor standing speakers in general just based on the products he reviews and the recommendations he makes in videos like this one.

  • @jctai100
    @jctai100 3 года назад +3

    180K Steve! On your way to 200K!

  • @higurashinerd
    @higurashinerd 3 года назад +11

    So if you can opt for the bigger of both, being rooms and speakers, the answer is yes ❤️

    • @offason
      @offason 3 года назад

      @@davidfromamerica1871 Steve is a reviewer helping Us. He's not only talking about what works for him personally. And that's not easy.

    • @higurashinerd
      @higurashinerd 3 года назад +1

      @@davidfromamerica1871 Who shit in your cornflakes? hahahahahaha

  • @ItsaRomethingeveryday
    @ItsaRomethingeveryday 3 года назад +1

    I picked up a set of Yamaha house speakers at a garage sale for five dollars each fifteen years ago, they are 300watts each and it was the last set I've purchased

  • @norrieclark5217
    @norrieclark5217 3 года назад +4

    Bought a new set of speakers a few weeks ago and my main concern was the size of my music room which is a small 10ft by 12ft space.
    One of the things I'm glad I did was look at the user manual of the speakers on my shortlist as even some unimposing standmounts needed to be 1 meter away from sidewall and at least 2 meters apart which I couldn't even get close to.
    After much research got a pair of Quad S2's that don't require too much breathing room and are excellent sounding in my small room. I know you can maybe get away with a small amount of give and take in the recommended placement but if you can't get close its unlikely going to work satisfactorily.
    Check those user manuals.....

    • @petekutheis3822
      @petekutheis3822 3 года назад

      My room is around that size--maybe closer to 11X12 and Sonus Faber Oly 1s do great. I manage to get them 5 feet apart or so, sit 5 feet or so away.. and still they are pulled almost 3 feet into the room, and I have 2 feet behind me. BUT they are sort of close to the side walls.

  • @kenkeil6144
    @kenkeil6144 3 года назад +1

    I’m lucky enough to still have a dealer in town.was able to audition Magi’s ,JBL, and Klipsch.They ket me hang for sometime listening to “my music” at high and low volume.Once again lucky.

  • @HPLeft
    @HPLeft 3 года назад +1

    Good advice. I have owned large ribbon speakers for more than 30 years - and whenever I move, I tell the realtor that I looking for a space for the speakers.

    • @halmetzger8429
      @halmetzger8429 3 года назад

      I’ve gone through the same thing more than once’s, lol
      But worth the time and expense at least for me.
      I have three systems and wouldn’t part with any of them and finding a home that fits is a job but very much worth it.
      Infinity’s, Klipsch K-horns, and Lascalas.
      All for the love of good sound and the music of course !!!

  • @jamesspahr7534
    @jamesspahr7534 3 года назад +2

    What a great informative video on a subject that could get missed by an excited purchaser. It would be great if speaker manufacturers would include as part of their speaker specifications a recommended room size range and placement for optimal listening. Thanks again... I will review this video again before I make my purchase.

  • @JohnAdams-or9xw
    @JohnAdams-or9xw 3 года назад

    Great video Steve.

  • @Pete.across.the.street
    @Pete.across.the.street 3 года назад +1

    I bought the Rp600m and the yamaha a couple months ago, I agree, they are a great combo 🙂

  • @joeycastillo1496
    @joeycastillo1496 3 года назад

    I agree with Steve, speaker size and room size do have definite relationship.

  • @willmorgan365
    @willmorgan365 3 года назад

    I totally agree. I have three set ups, two have 15" 4 way front speakers and both have 12" b speakers or rear, depending on amp combo. One of those sounds better, purely because of the room and I have swapped both systems around and no doubt, when you run 2 sets of 12s and 2 serts of 15s playing together, you need room for them to breathe, no doubt.

  • @mikecoffee100
    @mikecoffee100 3 года назад +1

    I like what You do here and Always Great Advice wherather it applies to me or not.

  • @Chris-nd5se
    @Chris-nd5se 3 года назад

    Good advice Steve.

  • @bryanglassglass8971
    @bryanglassglass8971 3 года назад

    Hi Steve I bought the Graham Chartwell ls6 right after you reviewed them got them in light oak i own 4 pair but these are my favorites they look as beautiful as they sound i bought them from Andy singer along with an octave intgd tube amp thank you so much for your reviews your the best!

  • @markceci9896
    @markceci9896 3 года назад

    I believe the speaker to room interface that matches best with your preferred musical taste is the first step. When you're starting out and have a limited budget spend about half your money on the best speakers you can afford. After that, the future journey is about getting your electronics upgraded. Then, it is gradually going back and forth between speakers and electronics as you get hooked....lol. Seroiusly, Steve, you are right on point.

  • @horrortackleharry
    @horrortackleharry 3 года назад +39

    Remember: The worlds best asparagus will NOT taste right on the wrong shirt.

    • @DIY-valvular
      @DIY-valvular 3 года назад +3

      That shirt is perfect as a camouflage in a corn maze. ;-))

    • @HaraldMacGerhard
      @HaraldMacGerhard 3 года назад +7

      Remember the law of attraction: The nicer the shirt, the quicker food will be spoiled onto it 🤣

    • @QoraxAudio
      @QoraxAudio 3 года назад +1

      @@HaraldMacGerhard So true!

  • @Sunshine_Superman
    @Sunshine_Superman 3 года назад +11

    Nothing this year has made me feel more nervous or sick to the pit of my stomach than waiting for a pair of Dali Epicon 2's to be delivered. I couldn't demo but had done as much homework as possible and already run through most of the thought processes mentioned. Still, the doubt...oh the doubt. Fortunately, they're working out just as I hoped they would and are giving me some genuine jaw dropping moments.

    • @colanitower
      @colanitower 3 года назад +4

      Same here, with in my case Wharfedale Lintons. The doubt, then the joy playing the first tracks after installing them at home, then the jaw-dropping moments after optimizing placement. Enjoy your Epicon 2's 😊

    • @Sunshine_Superman
      @Sunshine_Superman 3 года назад +2

      @@colanitower thank you. Massive moment of relief isn't it. Enjoy your Lintons too.

    • @Gnofg
      @Gnofg 3 года назад +1

      @@colanitower Linton's are old school. It is pure 1970's size. I had smaller Wharfdales and andrew jones Pioneer towers. Neither had the bass or presence. I went back to a speaker I bought new in 1977. Electrovoice interface series 2. I also have a Van Alstine tube preamp and a systemdek turntatble. these speakers are 2 cubic feet and the bass they produce is deep and defined. and play with ease. I am thinking of getting the schitt aegir. Nothing replaces size and a good TT provides great reproduction. I think audiophile vinyl is better than streaming. I think amazon is better than tidal..

    • @colanitower
      @colanitower 3 года назад +1

      @@Gnofg The new Lintons look old school indeed but they are not. They are heavy midsize boxes, somewhere between standmounters and floorstanders. Their biggest surprise: they deliver bass as much as you like, or more. To avoid too much bass they need precise placement and for that they need room around them. More expensive speakers are probably easier in this regard. I planned to add a subwoofer but that appeared not to be necessary at all.

    • @homerwinslow9047
      @homerwinslow9047 3 года назад +1

      @GeneralCurtis3LeMay You seem to have an obsession with winners and losers. You obviously feel you are a winner.

  • @gregsturgess3876
    @gregsturgess3876 3 года назад +1

    When I went shopping for my new speakers I could not go past the kliptch r7 series 2 selling cheap new series was realised but I questioned my room size small the salesman said you wanna live in a speaker box you live in a speaker box , Great advice love my speakers sooo good for music and them other things (movies) love your stuff Steve. cheers from oz

  • @leekumiega9268
    @leekumiega9268 3 года назад +2

    Ohm Acoustics offer a free 120 day free at home trial on their Walsh speakers and the whole room is the sweet spot due to their unique design.

  • @DW11111
    @DW11111 3 года назад

    You must be clairvoyant Steve. I'm a headphone listener who has the opportunity to expand to speakers and I was worried I wasn't getting enough speaker for my room (11 x 15 but I have free range to experiment and place anywhere I want) and my budget. Thanks for your advice and thoughts on this as the RP600M while at the very VERY top of my budget was one I was considering for my space. Thanks as always for your contributions. They will help me a lot when I go to the various shops within driving distance and check out speakers.

  • @stuartgreenaway8999
    @stuartgreenaway8999 3 года назад

    A great ability Steve to get what the ears hear to match the words that come out of the mouth. Simply put, if you imagine a naked room devoid of carpet or furnishings any speaker of any standard is not going to sound good. What in essence may be marketed as the best engineered sound available, in the form of a tower speaker may be of no use in a chosen listening room. Nor with duff low grade components. Crap in, crap out. What is really helpful here is how you can craft your descriptions of what you hear based on what you play and on what you play it. For example, a thin sounding speaker lacking bass is no good for a fan of house or electronic music. Always worth remembering the music genre and its content. One thing for viewers to consider is their music mixed and mastered on tower speakers?

  • @Mark-lq3sb
    @Mark-lq3sb 3 года назад +4

    Sorry, I refuse to go any smaller than 15 inch with my woofers. "Damn the small room, full speed ahead!"

  • @lmstefanini1
    @lmstefanini1 3 года назад

    Steve, bring the speaker to test at home, hum, looks like a dream, at least for the regular audiophile

  • @preopdollop
    @preopdollop 3 года назад

    Thanks for this video. It's helping me get some perspective Steve. I came into some money recently and I was gonna blindly upgrade my amp and speakers but I've tried to do some research online but there are too many options for me and I'm more unsure than ever what to do. I thought upgrading would get simpler as I get older but nope! I suppose the best thing to do is visit a reliable hifi shop once they can open again next month (they have been closed due to covid since January here in the UK and can open again on 12th April) and get some advice.

  • @acmuscravageur3627
    @acmuscravageur3627 3 года назад +3

    I bought the Klipsh 600 and use them with the Yamaha 801.........one word......harsh.....bright.....when pushed hard fatigue after a while and harden the sound.......i was ready to replace them with 12.2 Wharefedale or q350....or elac dr62 when my brother brought me his Rotel 1520 amp to check them.......so magic!!!!!! Sounds like class A and the sound from Klipsh is sweet(!)....fast deep bass full bodied with excellent mids!!!!......80’s rock even 90’s brit pop rock and awfully sound produced albums like Oasis sounded great!! Well produced lp’s or cd’s came to life again....i spent thousands of euros for speakers and the trick was that Rotel amp......clear dynamic punchy exciting sound......i thought for a while that my Klipsh were Harbeths!!!!!!!!! Now i’m into buying a new amp targeting Rotel or something in the same category (British??!) sound kind of!

    • @mdr4670
      @mdr4670 3 года назад

      Rotel is made in China. If you want British sound with punch get Naim integrated amps or all in one's like the Uniti Nova. They're really made in England too.

    • @acmuscravageur3627
      @acmuscravageur3627 3 года назад

      @@mdr4670 Rotel and most of gear nowdays are made in China....Rotel i think has that British tuned sound like the Arcam, Audiolab, Cambridge audio and of course Naim is an excellent manufacturer.....especially the Supernait 3 amp is unbelievable but out of budget.....i ‘ll try their entry level amps though i think they are a bit on the bright side of neutral......someone also recommended me the Quad amp

    • @mdr4670
      @mdr4670 3 года назад +2

      @@acmuscravageur3627 If you experience brightness in your system try Steve's review of the Schiit new Loki mini +

  • @drummerkev1627
    @drummerkev1627 3 года назад +1

    So I’ll admit, I have a pair of Klipsch RF-7II’s because I have a 20’ x 10’ x 8’ for 2 channel but I also have to use the same room for HT. When watching a movie my RF-7II’s are part of a 9.2.4 system with dual SVS SB16 Ultra’s. I’m in the process of working on my room acoustics so I can enjoy 2 channel listening more so first and foremost. But overall I really like my RF-7II’s sitting about 12’ back dead center in the sweet spot.

  • @BigDawgATL
    @BigDawgATL 3 года назад

    Great line, "The speakers play the room."

  • @cameronkrause4712
    @cameronkrause4712 3 года назад

    TRUTH!!

  • @peterdesmidt8742
    @peterdesmidt8742 3 года назад

    Recently, I added a Minidsp SHD to my system. It includes Dirac 3. Using Dirac had a very positive effect on my system. Magnepan LRS, Minidsp SHD, Adcom 535II.

  • @brianw3822
    @brianw3822 3 года назад +2

    I have a bad room. I now have a NAD streamer with room correction. It made all the difference.

  • @jamesgilgannon4164
    @jamesgilgannon4164 3 года назад

    Always great advice Steve. Just the other day I emailed a very well known manufacturer to ask what the minimum sized room would their certain model require. My room is 181/2 ft x 13ft x 71/2ft. A prompt reply quoted" Yes this model would indeed dominate the room. But went later to finish to quote" Just go for it". What kind of answer is that? Needles to say,they won't be getting my money anytime soon.🙄

  • @frostycanada6404
    @frostycanada6404 3 года назад +10

    Hello Steve, I’m not too sure what your saying. I think a decently made speaker that measure relatively flat (on and off axis) will play and sound great almost anywhere. I have a small normal room (14x14) and have tried many big speakers, the latest being the Wharfedale Diamond 250 and they sound gloriously good. As alway, I love what you do. Take care, and stay safe. Brian

    • @dalechalfont112
      @dalechalfont112 3 года назад

      A speaker that plays flat, or close to iyin a 16x20x10 room could have extreme bass reinforcement in a small room, especially if it had low extension and is forced ti be placed close to a wall. A student who house shares is not going to have the same great time as an audio reviewer putting a floorstanding speaker with 2x10 inch woofers that plays down to 28hz when that same student puts it 1 foot from both the front and side walls of the room they live in, in their house share accomodation.
      FYI I a not a student. Just giving you an example. Placement determines bass response which is why room size and placement restrictions effect how a speaker can sound different in different rooms.

  • @HaraldMacGerhard
    @HaraldMacGerhard 3 года назад

    I have small room with somewhat large speakers with 8 active woofers (Audio Physic Avanti III) .... just gotta love it
    Working towards 4, maybe even possibly 6 subwoofers (Audio Physic Rhea II)
    I really tend to think small rooms can be happy with pretty large speakers (correct for the room, though)

  • @sharunmathew4825
    @sharunmathew4825 3 года назад +4

    I already sent my speaker system photo to your mailbox 🇮🇳

  • @justwatching6186
    @justwatching6186 3 года назад +4

    Got 4 Cerwin Vega! AT-15’s
    old school Now that’s BASS!

  • @chefsteve8381
    @chefsteve8381 3 года назад +2

    Walsh ohm speakers on my end game wish list.

  • @jonthompson8807
    @jonthompson8807 3 года назад +1

    no ones gonna talk about the asparagus shirt? what a legend....

  • @davidbee8178
    @davidbee8178 3 года назад

    100% STEVE!! Just THINK - most R&D on box speakers goes to the SIZE of the box and WHERE to place the driver IN the box. MOST rooms are essentially boxes - ergo, WHERE you place your speakers in your "box" is paramount if good sound from your speakers is the priority. That is why I'm a fan of GOOD stand mount speakers backed up with (preferably) two small QUALITY subs (like REL) because OFTEN, the best bass in your room is not necessarily the place where you will get the optimum mids and highs from your stand mounts.

  • @mf2652
    @mf2652 3 года назад +2

    My Cornwall's are arriving this week ...into my apartment LOL

    • @TheJohnnyNormal
      @TheJohnnyNormal 3 года назад

      Ordering mine this week. Let there be rock!

  • @earlivey2420
    @earlivey2420 3 года назад

    it all boils down to what sounds good to you.i have a set of infinity speakers i bought at the px when i was stationed in germany in78.they had the emt tweeters.i wouldnt sell or trade them for anything.

  • @gtric1466
    @gtric1466 3 года назад

    Just ordered the DW's my room is 17x19 should be a good fit. Hope I like them...

  • @dm1787
    @dm1787 3 года назад

    Steve, visited a brick & mortar AV shop in SF this week in the longest time in years. Last time i have been to a few were in Boston like 25/30 years ago when i bought my NHTs. It was nice, very nice to be able to hear some nice gear. Ended up ordering a Maggie 1.7i. Hope it is not too big for my 17x13 room. Going through that stage in life where it feels like time is running out :)

    • @Old_Sailor85
      @Old_Sailor85 3 года назад

      My 1.7i are in a 12' X 14' open-ended room (three-sided room) and they work very well. Sub-woofers are optional.

    • @dm1787
      @dm1787 3 года назад

      @@Old_Sailor85 Thank you very much for the assurance

    • @edthefirst2859
      @edthefirst2859 3 года назад +1

      I’m seeing the end getting real close, too. Time is running out my friend! Enjoy today as much as possible.

  • @danielgeiger7739
    @danielgeiger7739 3 года назад

    Am awaiting a pair of Pearl Acoustics Sibelius SG speakers to likely replace B&W CM6 S2s plus REL T9/I in 18x18' room (diagonal set-up;

  • @kloss213
    @kloss213 3 года назад

    Dipoles are picky about room sizes and placing due to figure 8 radiation patterns but many front horn systems are not and due to controlled radiation patterns and ability to come alive at low output levels is why I use a large horn system in smaller spaces. A monitor on a stand needs to be away from the walls but a large front horn can use the walls as part of its horn mouth. So small room large speaker sure just use a front horn.

  • @carlsitler9071
    @carlsitler9071 3 года назад +1

    Big living room - 4' towers with dual 6 1/2. Small man cave - RP41s with sub.

  • @mariocassar3117
    @mariocassar3117 3 года назад

    You hit the nail on its head! Try to choose a speaker that has the least interaction with the room. The room is an extension of the speaker, and you end up with an expensive mistake, to boast around with other audiophiles!

  • @RealHIFIHelp
    @RealHIFIHelp 3 года назад +1

    I would use a Verity Rienzi used in such a small room. High class and cheap now.

  • @jonboy9912
    @jonboy9912 3 года назад +1

    Hear what you say - my wife made me put my Mordant Short 906 floor standers behind the TV on one side and the couch on the other!. I get them out when she disappears but its a pain in the ass!

  • @flargosa
    @flargosa 3 года назад +2

    You can use an equalizer to adjust the speakers to your room. Large speakers, turn the eq bass down. It’s not a problem really.

    • @Mikexception
      @Mikexception 3 года назад

      All depends - as usual. With only bass range stiff membrane speaker the bigger it is the more geometry of membrane affects phases of low middle I wouldn't like to use big exclusive low toner to small room - it cannot be rectified. With big full range it is much less due to frequency sharing. but then membrane resonances of big surface may be sometime concern. Why to like problems?

  • @ostapnakoneczny834
    @ostapnakoneczny834 3 года назад

    It all begins with the room. Get the room right and your available choices of speakers will greatly expand.

  • @thegumijagody
    @thegumijagody 3 года назад

    Great episode Steve - everything you’ve told everyone should consider while buying a new speakers. Btw do you know European brand Xavian? I think you should definitely check them out - they are my last biggest discovery🤗 Cheers Stevie!

  • @ApogeeUser
    @ApogeeUser 3 года назад

    The point with no large speaker in smaller rooms only suits for DIRECT radiating speakers because they send alot of their sound to the sides. BUT a big linesource dipole like the mentioned Magnepan is very directional instead ! Because of the linesource dipole principle very few energy is send to the sides so that a large amount of direct, not reflected sound reaches the listener compared to cone speakers that are closed on the back ! But, of course you have to keep them away from the backwall, thats a must ! In my case I run a pair of Apogee Fullrange Ribbon Speakers in a room where they are only centimeters away from the sidewalls and it sounds great though I have to say that I have installed some acoustic elements to make this work. But to say that Maggies don´t work in smaller rooms is NOT correct Steve ! They work way better there than most other conventional speakers, even bookshelve ones because they have the same wide radiation as big floorstanders.........

  • @robertburek1345
    @robertburek1345 3 года назад +1

    Hi Steve, I've been following your channel for some time now, and I enjoy every episode and find them very informative. If I'm not mistaken, in one of your episodes, you talked about Elac bookshelf speakers. Elac has come out with a new Elac Carina bookshelf speakers and I wonder if you're planning on covering them in your channel? I have a pair of Totem Sttafs, that is connected to my new Cambridge CXA81, and I'm looking on replacing them with either the KEF LS50 Meta or the Elac Carina and would like to hear your opinion on both of those. My room is about 13' x 25' and I'm
    forced to have to place the speakers across the room(unfortunately).

  • @404010ful
    @404010ful 3 года назад

    Good video Steve I'll keep that in mind what I get in the near future. My floor stands are small speakers I've had for a very long time there made by system audio bought them way back in 2002 . They still sound good to me . So I can see if I spent on expensive big speakers like big Horn ones for example and placed it in a room that was 10ft by 15 that room would be no match for that? They would need to breath. That's understandable. Question if a cabinet had more tweeters than one could you still get all the high notes from a orchestra ? Or would one tweeter do it? Just wondering.

  • @BrentLeVasseur
    @BrentLeVasseur 3 года назад

    I had to do a lot of mental calculus before buying my most recent pair of speakers. Basically I had to simulate the sound of the speaker and visualize how the sound-waves, especially in the lower bass frequencies would interact with my room in my head before buying them. Based on my inner ear listening my new speakers should work great provided that I position them correctly. Good news is I think there is a 30 day return policy if I am wrong. lol

  • @JazzInvaders66
    @JazzInvaders66 3 года назад

    12x18x8, wall to wall carpet and acoustic ceiling tile, dry wall/rough sawn lumber walls, art work and books ..... quite dead .... and the perfect speaker for jazz/classical with a little alt rock paired with Schiit Mani/Freya+/Aegir is ?????? Currently running KEF 104/2.

  • @mikecees2230
    @mikecees2230 3 года назад +1

    Bass waves are long waves that are felt at a greater distance than the rest of the spectrum. I used to get a kick out of running very low frequency rumbling sounds through my sub. My neighbor who, most of the time, was under the influence of a cocktail of pills, booze and other substances would come knocking, with his eyes popping out of his head, asking me if I had felt the ''earthquake''.

    • @JohnDoe-np3zk
      @JohnDoe-np3zk 3 года назад

      that loop of the beginning of dark side of the moon probably really got to him, over time.

    • @rob_66
      @rob_66 3 года назад

      I you want to play a song with earthmoving bass try Hyper-ballad by Björk. I'll bet the neighbors come knocking... 😉

  • @chrisodillman3355
    @chrisodillman3355 3 года назад

    thank you steve.. i was about to buy a wrong pair of speakers.

  • @tomhound273
    @tomhound273 3 года назад

    how do you know the word Jonesing? - I did blow for 15 yrs b-4 I knew what that word meant. Love your reviews and after the B&W 607 review I went out and within one hour I bought them from best buy. Now I think they may be a little bright. but I only listen to classical guitar in my bedroom so I plan on keeping them.You just mentioned the B&W 607-2 - and I kept my Klipsch 51m's in the back room. I have to rely on my ears but also on what the audiophiles say. keep up the great work.

  • @cnhhnc
    @cnhhnc 3 года назад +1

    I've had an interesting experience with vintage speakers. In particular an old set of Boston Acoustics A100s a largish floor standing two way 10" about 33" tall x 16" wide. Designed to be shoved up against a wall. In my basement room which is about 10' x 20' with a 7.5' opening on the long side to another space that is 15' x 7.5'. When the speakers are up against the long wall with the opening they just don't sound good. They are flat and the bass is not there. When moved to the short open wall. Now about 7' apart and very close to the wall, about a foot or less away. They sound like a completely DIFFERENT speaker. In other words they sound like what they should. Perhaps because the speaker now has 18-19' of space to propagate sound into. They REALLY open up and the bass is more present the highs more apparent, and there is more imaging. The same is true of a set of original LARGE Advents in the same positions. They sound much better on the long wall! Makes you THINK about the room. Now the room is very well damped. Wall to wall carpeting, curtains on two windows, couches on the long wall and other short wall, and acoustic ceiling tiles. So it's a pretty dead room, few resonances. There you go! Wish the room was just a bit bigger though! I have my eyes on some Tekton Pendragons or Double Impacts (I think I might prefer the Pendragons which are said to have more impactful bass with less etched highs, the Impacts are a tad brighter from what I can see in reviews. I like WARM, BASSY and powerful sound, nice highs but NOT audiophile highs which are FAR too distracting) which are a LARGE speaker. Will be investing in a retirement property soon. One of the priorities is to have ONE room that is at least 14' x 24' or so. Big enough to house the speakers. Real estate agents think I'm a bit loonie, though as I roam around with my tape measure, lol!

  • @martybousum1010
    @martybousum1010 3 года назад

    Add in the old 'WAF' and there you have it! A quest for audio excellence is full of perils!

  • @byronb.
    @byronb. 3 года назад

    Another good video. Have to disagree with your stance on stand mount speakers. If a bookshelf speaker isn't on a desk or shelf, it takes up just as much space as a floorstander once on a stand. Might as well get a small to medium floorstander with more drivers and more bass.

  • @alm5693
    @alm5693 3 года назад +3

    I'm discovering that speaker stand quality is a large factor in how bookshelf speakers are going to sound in my small room. As much as wall treatments.

    • @marckant3611
      @marckant3611 3 года назад

      I totally agree with you. Especially it is the stability, material and even the height of the speaker stands that make a difference. And make sure they don't resonate with your music by filling them with sand or small stones or something. Also I think it is best to screw your speakers onto the stands.

  • @mikecees2230
    @mikecees2230 3 года назад

    I had the perfect balance of speaker/room size until I moved. I've been struggling ever since. Went too small, then went too big, then too small again. By now I've got it figured out and am 99% sure my next speakers will be just right.
    Goldilocks was very tired by this time, she went upstairs to the bedroom. She lay down in the first bed, but it was too hard. Then she lay in the second bed, but it was too soft. Then she lay down in the third bed and it was just right.

  • @edd2771
    @edd2771 3 года назад +9

    I’m starting to become jaded regarding hifi reviews in general. Not yours per se steve because at least you point these things out. But here’s my concern. By this logic (which I think is absolutely correct) any reviewer that recommends a speaker is implicitly saying “its a great speaker (or bad speaker) in MY room”. But no one makes (or rarely makes) this qualification. So what are we the consumers really learning? Well thanks to reviewers like steve we are learning the room is a big consideration and to listen to speakers in your own room if you can. Beyond that, it has to follow that 99% of the words said or written in speaker reviews are worthless. I can learn anything tangible about the size, type, construction of a speaker on my own. I don’t need the reviewer for that. And all the intangibles that we look to reviewer for: “accurate, open, fast, emphasizes the midrange...etc) are only relevant for his room. It does give one pause.

    • @rolandrohde
      @rolandrohde 3 года назад +4

      There are a few Reviewers that offer objective and subjective reviews (like Erin's Audio Corner). If it measures more or less flat and has good directional properties and also has the right kind of efficiency and frequency range that matches your equipment, then you will still be fine. The room will have an effect, sure, but if the Speaker measures more or less flat and has sufficiently uniform off-axis performance, then it will still sound at least decent in your room.

    • @rolandrohde
      @rolandrohde 3 года назад

      @GeneralCurtis3LeMay
      I hope that was sarcasm...😁

    • @HareDeLune
      @HareDeLune 3 года назад +1

      @GeneralCurtis3LeMay
      R E H P E S ! !

    • @darkpatches
      @darkpatches 3 года назад +1

      @GeneralCurtis3LeMay I need your advice. Like you do, I know someone who has their head perpetually up their ass, and he can't find headphones that fit around his hips so he can hear the music. What do you you use?

    • @drsb26
      @drsb26 3 года назад

      @GeneralCurtis3LeMay FREAK!!!

  • @clasvirhodes4969
    @clasvirhodes4969 3 года назад +1

    I would love to audition a pair of Olm Walsh speakers and compare them to a pair of Aerial AcousticT7's but, there are no opportunities here in SC.

  • @RWong-wn3pv
    @RWong-wn3pv 3 года назад +1

    How A (any) pr of speakers sound in the (any) room is easily 50% of the equation. Proper room treatments & then speaker placements also influences & round out the rooms factoring. Consistent A/B testing & not apples to dead fruit comparisons should be obvious.

  • @nathanbell6962
    @nathanbell6962 3 года назад +1

    Hey Steve, can you talk about speaker cables please?

  • @rulbertremy8722
    @rulbertremy8722 3 года назад

    Can you make a review on preamplifiers as you do on speakers.

  • @mkshffr4936
    @mkshffr4936 3 года назад

    Still I would love to try some Altec 19s in my little nook.

  • @tomd5678
    @tomd5678 3 года назад +1

    I put black pepper on all my food. Some people put chilies. Other poeple put garlic, or ketchup, salt or mayonnaise.
    Why will everyone prefer the same sound?

  • @andyd9126
    @andyd9126 3 года назад

    I can not believe Lyric HIFI is gone, I can remember them being there forever

  • @hailtothevictorz
    @hailtothevictorz 3 года назад +1

    Speakers that defy room size, anyone? Cornwalls don't sound horrible in any size room.

  • @user-iz7zy7rx9t
    @user-iz7zy7rx9t 3 года назад

    Moving into a house with a bigger room, what the opinions on standmounters with a sub or two? Or should i buy floorstanders?