The Wapping Railway Tunnel Liverpool
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- The Liverpool to Manchester railway at its furthest western point beyond the passenger terminus at Crown street station had a goods link to the Wapping dock at Liverpool. This was the Wapping Tunnel. Billed as the first tunnel under a metropolis it was just over a mile long. The Wapping tunnel has some unique features such as air vent shafts and warning gongs that I have never seen before. We will be sorting some loose ends and looking at Crown street park and the Crown street tunnel Liverpool. Finally we arrive at Park lane goods station athe the Wapping docks at liverpool and looking at the end of the tunnel Constructed in 1826 by George Stephenson the tunnel remains in situ. Bisected by a Merseyrail line.
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This is the second part of the Liverpool story in case you missed it here is the first part ruclips.net/video/2BZAt5SmLBs/видео.html All music in this video by Martin Zero and Dean James Adshead
what's proper mad is the day you uploaded pt1 i went though the Wapping tunnel to get the edge hill cutting on a inflatable boat hahah mental.
how do you gain access to this i would like to walk threw it?
@@OxygenPlays Am afraid it’s not accessible to the public
@@MartinZeroi appreciate the reply thanks. It is a shame its not possible but it is what it is😉
Thanks. Suggest, in future, include "part one" links in video description instead of posting as comment. I almost skipped this because there wasn't one in it.
Excellent video, love your enthusiasm. The whole site should be properly developed as a visitor experience in much the same way as the nearby Williamson tunnels. So much industrial heritage that needs to be celebrated.
Would love to see you make other videos of other Liverpool landmarks just to see your reaction to some of the outstanding architecture that's here.
Keep up the excellent work 👏
Thanks Mark, yeah Liverpool has some hidden gems
@@MartinZero Hidden Martin? Surely not from you.
I did it with a mate back in 2005 or so and it was a rush to get in there and then down towards town. After a bit it gets dodgy with the flooding and I'd love to have a dinghy or boat down there too.
Great to see you exploring the other end of the Lancs too. So much to see and do in both Liverpool and Manchester.
Cheers Martin, fab location
@@MartinZero Very much so mate. Those rock formations are amazing. Bit like when we first drove past Salford Lads Club and realised it was still standing.
Charles Blacker Vignoles is quite an interesting character in the early railway age.... served in wellingtons army, went to canada, surveyed the manchester liverpool line. and built the Nicholas Chain Bridge in Kiev over the Dnieper River (worth looking up a picture of)
Great insight to the early years of railways in the UK, Martin! I wonder if the city of Liverpool would ever convert this into a museum or some sort of tribute to the railway by restoring it. It feels like this is a forgotten part of Liverpool that deserves to be far more known and understood and appreciated. Looking forward to your next video, as always!
Martin, what a day you had. So much history to explore, if I could only find that DeLorean and go back in time and see everything when new and in use. George Stephenson would be proud to see what he made is still standing and still in use today. Sad to see all the trash down in the cutout. A big thanks to Martin and all involved in making this video possible.
Much appreciated Mike
@@phuckewe5876 No whopper here.
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In his book Signalman the author M Burke states that the numbers mounted on the tunnel walls were to aid railway staff to know where they were while passing through the tunnel. He also says towards the bottom of the tunnel incline was a signal followed by a set of points which lead to a dead end siding in the tunnel wall. If the descending wagons ran out of control they would crash into this dead end siding rather than career into the yard. When a descending train successfully stopped at the signal the traincrew would alert the signalman who would then change the point for the train to enter the yard. There was no sign of the dead end siding in this clip unless it was in the flooded section. Hope this is helpful.
Superb viewing Martin, thank you. Had searched for the 1980 History Around You programme for schools, as I loved it as a kid, that briefly touched on the cutting and Crown St
But the detail and information in these make them so watchable
Great vid Martin well done mate.thanjs for the Entertainment. Your Nr1 Fans in Hamburg Germany. Deano
Thanks very much Dean, all the best
So fascinating thanks.
Thanks Robert
Epic show Martin.
Thanks Joseph
Fantastic effort, great knowledge, superb documentary. Thanks for sharing.
Excellent work and presentation.
Brilliant video ( just popped up Keith Chegwin 1986 ) railway history
I’m sure you’ve seen it but gonna watch that to see how it’s changed
Brilliant work Martin again
Bravo, Martin! A pair of rivetting videos, chock full of history. As amazing as it was to see the remains of the station and tunnel, it was just as amazing the state into which Liverpool has allowed these historic grounds to fall. C'mon, lads, these are among the first railway stations ever built! A bit of cutting and cleaning would do wonders, and be a spot of interest to many.
If the authorities cleaned out all that rubble, rubbish, & water, then covered the top of those open areas with structures to keep out the rubbish but not the light, I'm certain that they make some revenue from regular guided tours of this historically significant piece of industrial infrastructure!
Brilliant video Martin very interesting 🙂👍
Amazing stuff Martin, I understand there is talk of reopening the tunnel for some sort of rail link
Wow, I park on that King Park car park and have been to Black Lodge Brewing. Next time I go, I will have a better look around and tell my Mrs so I look dead clever.
Brilliant. Like you places like this steeped in history (especially railway history) put shivers down my spine. This is particularly poignant here because we have just an amazing collection of illustrations showing the site in all its Victorian grandeur. Such a shame it’s all being just left to rot away. What a fantastic site it would be for a Stephenson or a Liverpool and Manchester Railway Museum…
I don’t know how you managed to resist whacking all those gongs you found as you walked down the tunnel 🤣. I’d love to hear what they sound like.
Rob
Excellent - thank you!
Thanks Alison
What a glorious adventure! Loved all of it, and discovering the history. Cheers to you from USA!!
Loved it, loved it loved it.. 🙂
Hi Martin l stumbled across your channel watching the old tunnels in Liverpool since then watched a few more really enjoyed the concept and find your videos really informative now a new subscriber brilliant thanks for sharing your videos 👍
Thanks Martin, very much appreciated
Hi Martin, this was truly amazing! I really enjoyed watching and learnt so much...very interesting! I haven't commented in a while, but it's so good to see you haven't lost your passion and enthusiasm for exploring the history of such magnificent places. You are a true marvel! Thank you so much for your hard work and continuing to bring such excellent content, it really is appreciated. Thanks for sharing, take really good care of yourself, stay well! Kathy x
Thank you Kathy, glad you enjoyed
Absolutely fascinating!
Every time I see a new one of your videos I feel so glad I found your channel, I've been subbed since your trapdoor in the canal video, and never disappointed.... Keep them coming! 👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you COL 👍
Martin, fantastic job! Well worth the wait. Those gongs were interesting. I do hope that someday soon one of the most intact ones will be in a museum where it will be protected and the public could see it.
Content just gets better
. The atmospheric soundtrack was on point, totally in keeping with the content of the video. The North West is such a rich hunting ground for this sort of content. How about Spike Island, Widnes and Warrington Transporter Bridges etc....
Thanks Martin, I thought it deserved some atmospherics 😉
love your vids Martin xx
Thanks Ann
Absolutely fascinating video I loved every minute of it and your reservoir video ,just amazing ,at one point in the video you came to the tunnel exit and it was covered in rubbish , trash and I said out loud that is f**King disgusting and as soon as the words left my mouth up popped your comment saying the exact same thing, spooky, it wax almost as if we were having a conversation. I absolutely love your videos ,they always fascinate me, I like English history and I've been a railways train spotting anorak since I was a small child and I still have the same passion about them today as I did when I were a kid. 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 it's a huge shame on us that we just toss our rubbish and junk anywhere we feel like it, it's disgraceful
Fascinating insight into our history of railways from yesteryear. Beautifully filmed and edited with atmospheric music just at the right moments to create some tension and mystery. Really fascinating video vlog and as a railway enthusiast and former employee it was so interesting. I have an interest in railway history, architecture and tunnels. Well done Martin.👌
Really interesting and can not waite for next one
Great vid as allways. But look out for ticks Martin. Greetings from the Netherlands.
More bothered about the Tocks 😉
Absolutely brilliant. I studied the Liverpool to Manchester railway many moons ago in school, but not to this level of detail. The contrast between the famous images of the tunnel's grand opening and what it looks like today are just terrific. All put in perfect context too. I image that I'll come back to this pair of videos quite a few times. Many thanks for creating these videos and allowing us a very special view of an important part our industrial heritage.
Great video as always. You do your research and it is presented so very well! I'm a bit claustrophobic and would never be able to go where you guys do! Fascinating!
Love your work. Jay from SF.
Thanks Jay
Well done. That’s was really interesting.
Cheers Scott
love your videos so much detail it takes a lot of research to do this ,I did one of these recently with my friend ,and really enjoyed it am getting the bug ,keep up the good work
Cheers
Martin you're so passionate about the history, every episode is so interesting. Thank you for making these videos and showing us our forgotten past.
Thanks very much 👍
Have you seen that they have made it a heritage site now
Fantastic.
Thank you for this marvellous video Martin, and for your insight to dig into the history of this incredible place; a fantastic look into our past. As always, absolutely wonderful, bless you.
There was also a goods yard in the triangle between Smithdown Lane, Queensland Street and Overbury Street. The tunnels all led back to Edge Hill from there. We used to play on the "reller" (railway) there when we were kids. Oops!
Great vid by the way. It brought back fond memories.
You've a fantastic way of explaining and demonstrating the structure and history beneath my everyday routes. Loved it, keep up the good work!
What a interesting tunnel
Full of history
Thank you Martin and the crew
Fantastic video again martin...you never let us down with your work...and the insights and passion you show for what you do... your a legend...luv ya xxx and thank u
very interesting
Top Stuff....as always...great production..🎶music. and content... great video👋 really enjoyed this
its such a shame this place is in a mess, FANTASIC, network rail thanks for letting martin show it us, please clean it up a bit, this is the place of your birth/rails birth as a whole, it needs to be saved an looked after
takes me back ✌❤
Martin Zero another great video, I’ve been waiting for you to visit this area. I always love the underground explorations and industrial revolution era buildings you visit, this combined them into one great series. Keep up the good work!!
Nice to see the earlier pictures of how it was. Great video Martin.
Brilliant video as always sir, I look forward to more.
Thank you again, Martin. What a wonderful video you made, great shots, good explanation to it, beautiful pictures too. And a big thanks to Dean for the music to the video. This video + the music is another proof of 1+1=3 sometimes.
A wonderful video Martin, thank you. Liverpool and its railways have always fascinated me. But so sad to see that historic railway junction full of garbage! Nothing more to say!
The gongs are an excellent find. It would be interesting to see how the worked.
Ive never seen them before Anthony
Regarding the gongs, back in 79 I was in hospital and there was an old man in the bed next to me. He was once a signal man at Hooton Station on the Merseyrail Rock Ferry to Chester line. Running parallel with that line was the old Birkenhead Woodside to London Paddington line. Now when this chap was a young man starting out in his career, he worked as a track layer and often had to work inside the tunnel between Birkenhead Woodside and Birkenhead Town station (the remains of which and the tunnel mouth albeit boarded up are still visible) near the Mersey Tunnel (Queensway) entrance. Now he told me that there was a gong in the tunnel which was used to warn the drivers to shut off steam and app,y the brakes as there was an S bend in the tunnel.
Sadly I believe the have filled the tunnel with concrete foam, but here was another example of the gong systems
Brilliant, beautiful, engaging presentation, undergirded by sound historical and archaeological fact, taking URBEX to a new level (no pun intended).
That was a gas pipe as it was wrapped with a woven tape stuck on with bitumen to stop it rusting
Interesting thanks Michael
I heard there are plans to reuse the tunnel again for rail
Great collection of North West social history archive you are collating..
Watching these scenes showing reminds me of the other side of these tunnels i.e.Lord Neson St behind the Lime St Station there used to be abuilding which is now a Hotel .Prior to this Hotel it was once a tobacco company , in the cellars two floors down where small rooms, where they stored tobacco leaves . The previous owners were I believe NUNS yes ñuns itwas apparently used as a Nunnary Understand weather thats a fact I am not sure.. (Interesting) I did work in
the Building before they built the HOTEL which is there now . 😢
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Cool how you make an old derelict tunnel an ongoing Event.
That was even more amazing than part 1 and the music was perfect - can't believe that the tunnel is still intact. Could you tell me anything about the drawing of construction work which you show at the very end? Thanks.
@ 5:40 somebody's written 'Overberry' on the wall...i think they might mean 'Overbury' as in the street which is nearby.
Fantastic stuff Martin. You would think that Tunnels giving access to the river front could be used as part of some modern transport system for the city. Pity they can’t at least clean it up and make it secure. Fly tippers and graffiti sprayers are a menace in modern society!
Sir martin . Greetings
He’s been knighted? What an honour.
Hello you ok
Always a pleasure seeing you sir
Great video, shame it's such a mess, not far from the tunnel end (over to the right and up slightly on your map) there's an abandoned Mersey rail station as well, just to the right of the junction Parliament St /Park Rd.
Sad to see the state its in, this place should be a protected site or world heritage site, the literal birthplace of intercity passenger railways.
Martin, ever heard of "Bingley Five Rise Locks?"
The amazing things that our ancestors built and achieved.
What they did and who they / we were is amazing.
Don't let anyone tell you differently with lies.
If the authorities cleaned out all that rubble, rubbish, & water, then covered the top of those open areas with structures to keep out the rubbish but not the light, I'm certain that they make some revenue from regular guided tours of this historically significant piece of industrial infrastructure! 🤔
I would have to go back home. Get some small torch (actual heat torch not light) and oil. And at least try to free up that gong
I thought he'd been spying on me till I realised he said Wapping Dock
Rude... or wishful thinking. lol
So the shrapnel damage to the right of the signal box is still there?
Fucking brilliant......nuff said :-)
I'll buy you a pint if you can say what 'Getting off at Edge Hill' refers to in the Scouse vernacular..😜🍺
Salut
How sad for the end of the tunnels to look like that.
Wouldn't it be nice if that area was all cleared out and preserved.
Smashed it again Martin 👏 I am proud of my City, but ashamed at the lack of interest in our heritage. It's been some time since I visited the Wapping, I am embarrassed on how much shit is in there. Another great tunnel is the Waterloo/Victoria. We have so many disused tunnels, it's awful watching them rot away.
Been saving this one, and boy am I glad I did. The birth of the railway era and it's still there to be savoured, it was almost a Tutankamun moment!!!! Thanks Martin for bringing us this and for climbing through the crap to bring us the last details. As you say, a trap door moment👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻❤
The way the pipe is joined at the elbow (screwed) is more likely gas, also, that elbow would be too sharp to pull cables around, specially if old rubber coated ones
I hope its original
looks like a gas pipe as its got denzo tape wrapped around it to prevent corrosion. As an old Sparky I never saw conduit wrapped in denzo tape but the steel conduit was sometimes painted to prevenrt corrosion until galvanised conduit came in to replace it.
Another fantastic video Martin, with lots of educational facts and plenty of local history. I have always been fascinated by railways, especially with the structures like Tunnels, Viaducts, Signal Boxes etc. so this video was right up my street. Only one flaw, being from Darlington I shall always consider the Stockton to Darlington Railway of 1825 to be the world’s first and Darlington as the birthplace to the railway industry as we know it.
Keep the the amazing content coming as I always look forward to seeing your videos on a Sunday evening. 😀👍🏻
Some very interesting history to this tunnel, Martin. To excavate a tunnel of that proportion in three years was a marvel of civil engineering for its time. The gongs are most unusual, I suppose there was some sort of trip mechanism when the wheels of a vehicle, whether it be a loco or wagon activated a lever or something. The old photos are a marvel, and seeing the remains of the signalbox was a nice surprise. It must have been quite a busy place for years, especially serving the docks. Many thanks for producing this program, Martin, you've done an excellent job of it. Take care.
Another great video Martin. Good to see the part where the Merseyrail line cuts into the Wapping tunnel. In the early plans for Merseyrail they were going to reuse the Wapping tunnel to create two outer loops utilising the Cheshire lines route via West Derby. It was later changed to reuse the Waterloo tunnel & eventually the plans were dropped. I did a video about the planning and construction of the Merseyrail underground, not up to your superb standards, but something that hasn't been covered before. ruclips.net/video/krXBdSahsEc/видео.html
OUTSTANDING VIDEO: Great music choreographed so well with the film. I sat riveted to my seat wishing I was there walking along with you all. You have outdone yourself on this one. The immense amount of history relayed with superb video and informative narrative makes we sad it is all gone like a wisp of smoke into the past. Thank you for bringing it all to light and sharing a treasured piece of history that will soon be lost.
Where's the tea boy? surely you didn't think they had tea machines in the tunnel lol
Don't ever stop making these videos, sunday isn't sunday without an M Z video
Absolutely fascinating, I used to work in Liverpool and travelled in by train everyday. Always was blown away by the edge hill cutting. Thank you for bringing history to life.
Thank you Carol
Mendelssohn, the classical composer, visited Liverpool in 1830, on his way back from the Hebrides. He wrote to his father back home telling him about the excitement of the L&M’s imminent opening and claimed that he bribed a night watchman to let him explore the Wapping Tunnel just a week or so before the officially opening ceremony. It was the moon landing of its day.
I knew it was all there but I’ve not seen as much detail of its current state. That tunnel on the right at the top was actually an incline into the yard which is now the park. Fascinating stuff Martin.
World history on our doorstep.Should be a working museum .Clean it up and have a electric train like the rocket going to Edge Hill and back . Telling the history of this magnificent structure.And of course a cafe and shop at the end.
Wow! To put the age of this tunnel complex in perspective, my hometown of Guelph Ontario, Canada was founded in 1827. When these impressive tunnels were being built, my hometown was still just a collection of primitive log cabins carved out of the wilderness alongside the Speed River several days journey down a muddy road from the town of York(today's Toronto). Thank's for this fascinating documentary on the urban archeology experience and keep up the good work!
1826-1829 no fucking way,do this in modern time wiith modern machine it will take longer...
It definitely would 😃
Another great video Martin…. But what’s happened to James???
And next the 3rd tunnel….most northern of three. ???
Back in the 70’s, I was a QS on the construction of a new Geology Building for the University of Liverpool in Pembroke Street..[Looks like it’s now called the Jane Herdman Building. Which runs through from Brownlow Street..]
The drilling for one of corner concrete piles, went through the roof of this tunnel..
Funny how one remember things..
I do not know if this tunnel is as interesting as the previous two ?
A part of the tunnel cutting is still visible between the A59 and Fontenoy Street and the exit to the tunnel still visible in Howard Street..[Opposite the Costco warehouse.]
Martin 🧠💪🤝🙏
Martin's not wrong, that is a Wapping big tunnel
It certainly is
Glorious, just could have been an hour longer, thanks M'0' for this production. Love the section where the cut in the bedrock shows the layers in time, amazing.
Thank you David 👍
My family is from Liverpool. My Grandfather would have delivered cargo there, serving in the Merchant Navy for 25 years, including in WWII as a Chief Engineer on various cargo ships. It's a miracle he survived, being sunk six times and managing to save another two ships after being torpedoed by the Germans. He evacuated the family to Paignton, where he bought a General Store to provide an income and a home, if in the likely event he didn't return.
Thank you Martin and Roy for an absolutely fascinating historical video.
A fantastic journey into the past martin and Mike .....thank you so much for sharing a first class video..... bringing alive a bygone age of engineering that involved blood sweat and toil ...and tears I'm sure x
Brilliant video, as always, but where's the Brew Boy?
He will be back Jenny
Sent home to get the teaspoon.