It's quite unbelievable how much detail people look into stuff like this and as a casual gamer just makes me not ever want to go online. Obviously it's good tips though
Ketchup, you should probably mention that the b23xxbreath restand doesn't connect on small hitboxes characters. They can block the breath or even duck ( because it is a high) and full combo punish you for that.
Ketchup you forgot there's a whole other layer to the corner mixup with Dexstarr! With Dexstarr out you can also combo off of a d3, both mid screen and in the corner! That means they now have to guess between low, overhead, and grab, all of which lead to a full combo into restand!
For those of you who like using stats, it appears that his breath's DoT scales off of Atrocitus' strength, with ability only affecting the plumes initial damage on contact. Due to enemy defense, the damage will more than likely result in the same tick damage you see in this demonstration. On a side note, Life Drain is completely based off of ability, as expected.
Ninjaman16709 With very strict timing you can still get it to restand in females. It's too inconsistent to be practical though. You can can just restand with the b23 and force them to block a fireball from Dexstarr immediately after. That way they'll still be forced to eat a mixup.
Why doesn't no one use db3 with all of dexstar set ups. Especially mid screen when it gets mb and you can basicly loop any combo previously. Also the drain stacks with bf2 & df2 with killer damage.
Man, I hope there is something for Captain Cold coming cause as it is he's kind of bad. I know, I know, Corner set ups and stuff but does he have anything outside of that?
I think the best thing about you guys being commentators, now, is that you absolutely have to pay attention to everyone's tech for every character. So when you upload ranked match videos you'll shit all over casuals even better than in mkx. And I can't wait to see the hype and hear the celebrations haha.
the problem is the restand doesnt work against female hitboxes ;( I do the dextar projectile instead, tight timing but still better than raw restand +3
Madara Uchiha Dead shot - be patient Black Adam - Block overhead(he has no low combo starters) also just duck his high strings especially his f12 string and punish after he whiffs it Supergirl- Quit ur game
Hi i have a quesion. Do you know what the best combo for atrocitious is, like a bread and butter cobmo. If you do could you tell me the inputs in lettters and numbers such as something like 223, 112 or db1? Thanks
Thanks for the idea and video. But you can actually do more damage with just 3 breaths and using Dex-Starrs Blood Ball (just one blood ball) instead of Blood Wall. Therfor easier to execute. Also, the 2 breaths with 2 d2 does actually almost the same damage as the 4 breaths with blood wall. I am not sure if thats worth the hassle and limited time of Dex-Starr, for just that like 20 dmg more than without Dexx. So if you want that extra dmg and use Dexx for that, do the same combo with two d2 and two breaths and shoot one Blood Ball at the same time you end the second d2+up breath then you can add another d2+breath. I also want to add, that ending with breath is always a good idea to end combos if you want to go for damage, because it does not scale with the combo, it always does about 10 ticks (maybe 11 dunno) and thats 60+ damage at least, at the end of an Combo. Edit: btw. it would really help if you turn on health bar numbers. So we can see the actual damage done with those dots, otherwise its hard to see and calculate without going into the lab on our own.
I can assure you competitive players do not worry about gear because they play with competitive mode on, so gear effects and specials are turned off and the statistics are all balanced.
yea I gathered that the pro scene wont be concerned with gear as the system makes the game unfair, and fighting games are about balance, but specifically abilities, they can change a characters move set (so can some gear) I gather tourneys will be all about non gear comp mode. But I hope eventually NRS let us use comp mode, but have an extra option to turn abilities on.
If you pressure you can use b233 with dex starr its plus 3 or 4 and the f123 string is -1 soo its a good option too. the problem with the walk punch that its a high hitting string which the opponent can crouch and punish. As always great video 👏👏
Corey Alvey I somewhat agree but with other characters doing the things they can do. I find this small detail being fine at the moment. If at some point atroc got buffed to being top 5 I could see that being changed.
I agree that there are other characters with ridiculous tools as well. I also think those should probably be carefully reviewed and tweaked in due time. No rush though. It's interesting to see how the community plays around such powerful tools.
thanks ketchup. now we are gonna see a million more annoying atrocitus players. including myself of course
This is honestly the most informative channel I've come across. Keep it up, these videos really help a not good player like myself haha
CabooseXBL wow funny finding you here😂😂😂 great videos I want too play u sometime my psn is TheKingHakeen
If u ever start playing on psn
how come we have to do crazy heavy execution dependant combos meanwhile Black Adam sneezes and your dead..
awesome stuff tho appreciate it alot!
we both know that adam is gonna be nerfed after evo so why learn him?
as an atrocitus main, this greatly helps my corner pressure game. Thanks Ketchup!
Doesn't seem very high damage.
Black Adam does same from a divekick.
Bill Wilson Not to mention this DOT is utter shite damage compared to a simple black adam MB lighting lol until he gets nerfed.
It's quite unbelievable how much detail people look into stuff like this and as a casual gamer just makes me not ever want to go online. Obviously it's good tips though
You guys seemed to post this with perfect timing for me. I was just labbing it up trying to use breath better.
JedidiahJ Just breathe man!!!!!JUST BRRRRREATHEEEEE!!!!!
did anyone see tekkenmaster using this ?
Berlinwood27 yes
Berlinwood27 yup
Ketchup, you should probably mention that the b23xxbreath restand doesn't connect on small hitboxes characters. They can block the breath or even duck ( because it is a high) and full combo punish you for that.
WHAT ARE YOU DOING YOU'RE GETTING HIM NERFED?!
Andrew Rogers lol there's a list of people needing to be nerfed, I assure you they don't even remember who atroc even is
MasterEvolution I mean this was just a joke.
What do you mean? Atrocitus is top 5 no question. If they are going to do a big patch of nerfs, Atro is definitely a high priority target.
John Shepard captain cold op
John Shepard low tier player spotted
Ketchup you forgot there's a whole other layer to the corner mixup with Dexstarr! With Dexstarr out you can also combo off of a d3, both mid screen and in the corner!
That means they now have to guess between low, overhead, and grab, all of which lead to a full combo into restand!
For those of you who like using stats, it appears that his breath's DoT scales off of Atrocitus' strength, with ability only affecting the plumes initial damage on contact. Due to enemy defense, the damage will more than likely result in the same tick damage you see in this demonstration. On a side note, Life Drain is completely based off of ability, as expected.
finally breath combos, been searching everywhere
wow i was just in the lab trying to figure stuff out woth atrocitus bile then this vid gets posted😄 thx ketchup and mustard 👍
this cant ben done anymore wamp
True I couldn't also
I knew this character had potential as soon as I saw that character power.
That utility is SS tier.
awesome. It is a shame i'll never be able to land it
Btw the restand into breath only works on male hitboxes!
Thank you! I've been trying to do it on Harley in practice and couldn't figure out why it wasn't working.
Ninjaman16709 With very strict timing you can still get it to restand in females. It's too inconsistent to be practical though. You can can just restand with the b23 and force them to block a fireball from Dexstarr immediately after. That way they'll still be forced to eat a mixup.
Everyone should check out TekkenMaster's Atrocitus, he was going this to some of the best players in the world, including SonicFox.
Hey Ketchup, would you consider making another 'casual to competitive' series for injustice 2? just like you did with MKX?
We will be reviving that series eventually. It's just a matter of having time to do it at the moment :)
Why doesn't no one use db3 with all of dexstar set ups. Especially mid screen when it gets mb and you can basicly loop any combo previously. Also the drain stacks with bf2 & df2 with killer damage.
thankz for sawing me this coz i felt like i was spamming the chacter with the same combos with different mix ups
Man, I hope there is something for Captain Cold coming cause as it is he's kind of bad. I know, I know, Corner set ups and stuff but does he have anything outside of that?
I think the best thing about you guys being commentators, now, is that you absolutely have to pay attention to everyone's tech for every character. So when you upload ranked match videos you'll shit all over casuals even better than in mkx. And I can't wait to see the hype and hear the celebrations haha.
So far I have found 4 in one combo, 5 if you start with it as well.
the problem is the restand doesnt work against female hitboxes ;(
I do the dextar projectile instead, tight timing but still better than raw restand +3
I mean can you guys do videos for how to fight against the top tier character's, plz.
Madara Uchiha
Dead shot - be patient
Black Adam - Block overhead(he has no low combo starters) also just duck his high strings especially his f12 string and punish after he whiffs it
Supergirl- Quit ur game
***** Thank you so much pretty good advice.
DRANTIS マ ダ ラ Any tips for Darkseid and Atros ?
the juggle on the shield will probably get nerfed so it only works for one rep, still probably 30% off the grab though
been playing robin and atrocitus since day one and wouldve never thought the shield could be so powerful in the corner. fuck lol
fun fact: Atrocitus never brushes his teeth
wonderful vid! thanx, i just picked him up
Does the character getting hit receive meter from the DoT damage from blood breath?
good video, strong stuff for atrocius, he becomes even scarier :o
swamp-thing next?
NERF black adam
JEDI MASTER YODA no
Dex is the most overpowered trait in both injustice games
Zod Minion would disagree with that.
Brainiac video Please.
Love your content gang. Don't even play the character but it was fun and informative as usual.
This is too hard to execute for a scrub like me :(
Really nice !
Hi i have a quesion. Do you know what the best combo for atrocitious is, like a bread and butter cobmo. If you do could you tell me the inputs in lettters and numbers such as something like 223, 112 or db1? Thanks
thank you very much for this :)
Atrocitus can do 45% of a grab? Better nerf Dee Jay.
Thanks for the idea and video. But you can actually do more damage with just 3 breaths and using Dex-Starrs Blood Ball (just one blood ball) instead of Blood Wall. Therfor easier to execute. Also, the 2 breaths with 2 d2 does actually almost the same damage as the 4 breaths with blood wall. I am not sure if thats worth the hassle and limited time of Dex-Starr, for just that like 20 dmg more than without Dexx. So if you want that extra dmg and use Dexx for that, do the same combo with two d2 and two breaths and shoot one Blood Ball at the same time you end the second d2+up breath then you can add another d2+breath.
I also want to add, that ending with breath is always a good idea to end combos if you want to go for damage, because it does not scale with the combo, it always does about 10 ticks (maybe 11 dunno) and thats 60+ damage at least, at the end of an Combo.
Edit: btw. it would really help if you turn on health bar numbers. So we can see the actual damage done with those dots, otherwise its hard to see and calculate without going into the lab on our own.
You could also stack this with his down back 4
Atrocitus is that dude right now
oooh this looks fun >:D
Broken.
I have a gear that make breath do 30% more damage thats why i am here
didnt know that hahaha
awesome
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If you replace the 2nd and 3rd d2's with d1 instead it'll scale less in combo ;)
FNoelle124 will breath still hit tho
TAKE THIS DOWN LOL
He gotta hot breath
I needed this
Very nice.
godlike!!
36666 subs
hey ketchup, are the pros not worried about using gear/abilities because they will not be in tourneys?
I can assure you competitive players do not worry about gear because they play with competitive mode on, so gear effects and specials are turned off and the statistics are all balanced.
yea I gathered that the pro scene wont be concerned with gear as the system makes the game unfair, and fighting games are about balance, but specifically abilities, they can change a characters move set (so can some gear)
I gather tourneys will be all about non gear comp mode.
But I hope eventually NRS let us use comp mode, but have an extra option to turn abilities on.
Is this all corner stuff though?
Kyle Haywood of course..................
bruh
Shit's OD right?
haysan32 Over Dosed?
Outrageous, dumb, unnecessary, over the top, whatever you want it to be really...
Not saying this is OP however, two completely different things
his dot damage is now nerfed right?
Yeah, he's super different now. Can no longer shield off grab etc
If you pressure you can use b233 with dex starr its plus 3 or 4 and the f123 string is -1 soo its a good option too. the problem with the walk punch that its a high hitting string which the opponent can crouch and punish.
As always great video 👏👏
Mohammed Ahmed b233? F123? I think you have some strings messed up
Padraic Gaffney Hmm, b233 is the string where when you have dex starr can only be performed, the f123 is the one where he advances.
It's f223 I think. And yah sorry forgot about the dex starr strings.
Try the f123 its -1 on block@
I DID NOT KNOW THIS THANK YOU GUYS!!
Damn I came up with this tech last week
Lester Kearney it's been out for a while now ketchup showed me it like a week ago on stream.
Madzin found this tech a week before combo breaker.
This was insane. Great stuff!
It's such a shame Ketchup knows all of these techniques but gets beat up in tournaments
I placed top 8 at pretty much every tournament I entered including EVO during the MKX days.
Hold these nuts.
PNDK&M lol... i ain't roasting you bro, don't get it the wrong way. All i'm saying is you just haven't had much success in Injustice.... XD
I don't enter Injustice 2 tournaments. I am one of the official commentators.
PNDK&M Aww... too bad. Would have loved to see you playing though...
Is the breath dot lethal as well?
Kyle Gleason lethal?
Kyle Gleason no, it isn't.
you can get 2 breaths for 1 bar without dexstarr in the corner
CRAZY! Will be using
lol How fitting i'm the 666th to like :D
the damage is nothing compared to black adam lul, the guy can do 60% with one bar and it is easy to do lul
Jhin The Virtuoso black Adam has no mix compared to atrocitus
ii Supahot I wouldn't exactly say only block high when his low lighting still hits like a truck for what it is :/
MasterEvolution lmaoo bro his lightning mid combo? That can easily be interrupted
ii Supahot of course black adam has weaknesses but when he gets you in his immortal combo string its free 50 or more percent damage
Atrocitius is my boy, but honestly the shield probably shouldn't cause juggle.
Corey Alvey I somewhat agree but with other characters doing the things they can do. I find this small detail being fine at the moment. If at some point atroc got buffed to being top 5 I could see that being changed.
I agree that there are other characters with ridiculous tools as well. I also think those should probably be carefully reviewed and tweaked in due time. No rush though. It's interesting to see how the community plays around such powerful tools.
Corey Alvey hopefully no rush whatsoever. Shouldn't be too much of an issue since nether realm doesn't drop a patch every day.