Why Elon Musk Has an "Idiot Index"

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  • @Newsthink
    @Newsthink  Месяц назад +21

    *Was Elon in the right or in the wrong?*
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    • @AL-lh2ht
      @AL-lh2ht Месяц назад +13

      Isn’t this “idiot index” like a basic business concept.

    • @LuisSierra42
      @LuisSierra42 Месяц назад +10

      @@AL-lh2ht re-branded by Elon

    • @DivaAnnFisher
      @DivaAnnFisher Месяц назад +1

      I am permanently banned from tweeting on X!
      When I wrote, "What tweet was in violation of what rule?", I received no response.
      --
      The best I can figure is I had written criticisms of Rachel Maddow and Michael Dell. Some with 4 million views. Maybe their social media connected people colluded with Elon Musk social media people?
      --
      Elon Musk "absolute free expression" is a lie.
      FIX IT, ELON MUSK.

    • @camplethargic8
      @camplethargic8 Месяц назад +1

      Now let's hear about X-formerly-known-as-Twitter. Then, maybe pay tribute to Musk's politics ("My pronouns are Prosecute/Fauci" -EM). Or, are you trolling us for clicks?

    • @ricinro
      @ricinro Месяц назад +12

      There are many types of idiot indexes. The leader that would employ bullying and berating would get a higher idiot rating than a leader who could achieve the same with kinder manners.

  • @giorgiobarchiesi5003
    @giorgiobarchiesi5003 Месяц назад +720

    So let’s just use more expensive raw materials, and the idiot index will improve 😁

    • @RavarsenBlogspot
      @RavarsenBlogspot Месяц назад +117

      Spoken like a true bureaucrat.

    • @giorgiobarchiesi5003
      @giorgiobarchiesi5003 Месяц назад +51

      @@RavarsenBlogspot Or a smart sarcastic person. Who knows?

    • @MrRaulstrnad
      @MrRaulstrnad Месяц назад

      there it is, one of the many flaws in musk cult thinking@@giorgiobarchiesi5003

    • @sriharshacv7760
      @sriharshacv7760 Месяц назад +24

      Elon will accept your resignation. Lol.

    • @blucat4
      @blucat4 Месяц назад +12

      @@giorgiobarchiesi5003 No, smart people wouldn't even say that as a joke. You're fired!

  • @Pooua
    @Pooua Месяц назад +127

    I'm reminded that a pound of iron is extremely cheap, but when fashioned into sewing needles, that same pound of iron increases in value hundreds of times.

    • @georgewashington938
      @georgewashington938 Месяц назад +7

      sounds like Adam Smith

    • @DataWaveTaGo
      @DataWaveTaGo Месяц назад +1

      A Mars bound Starship has just a single use. No going back to earth.

    • @Pooua
      @Pooua Месяц назад +7

      ​@@DataWaveTaGoStarship is supposed to be capable of making several round trips.

    • @kevinmathewson4272
      @kevinmathewson4272 29 дней назад +8

      figures a billionaire would not appreciate that labor costs money.

    • @DataWaveTaGo
      @DataWaveTaGo 29 дней назад +4

      @@Pooua "supposed" is the key concept here.

  • @gracerodgers8952
    @gracerodgers8952 Месяц назад +696

    Wow, don't ever tell Elon how much Twitter was.🤣

    • @jamescarter8311
      @jamescarter8311 Месяц назад +82

      Musk said Twitter wasn't about the money before he even purchased it. It was about having a platform for free speech. That said, X is doing fine.

    • @meilyn22
      @meilyn22 Месяц назад

      ​@jamescarter8311 must be an idiot to believe that. He was forced to buy Twitter, just FYI.

    • @user-ek9go3kf2w
      @user-ek9go3kf2w Месяц назад +30

      Well, there is no much material in Twitter so the ratio is 40 Bilions totally inefficient.

    • @dadejazzba402
      @dadejazzba402 Месяц назад +5

      They lied and a lib "judge...lol" OK'd it

    • @meilyn22
      @meilyn22 Месяц назад

      @@jamescarter8311He was forced to buy Twitter. Stop the cap!

  • @Ikbeneengeit
    @Ikbeneengeit Месяц назад +319

    Elon: "If you don't know this weird accounting metric that I invented, I'll treat you like shit."

    • @hammer-and-thumb
      @hammer-and-thumb Месяц назад +26

      This was not unknown, it was widely communicated within the company. Managers should know common terms used in the business especially if they are part of the company's unique approach to business.

    • @markteague8889
      @markteague8889 Месяц назад +5

      Yeah! That was a pretty dick move to do to someone in a meeting. Why not just share with everyone the idea of the metric; and then, ask them to think about it. I suppose there are different management / leadership styles. And sometimes, you need to use negative feedback to motivate people. The AMA defines a manager as someone who accomplishes work through others. In order to do so, you need to understand what motivates people and you should also have some understanding of the factors influencing the lives of your immediate / direct reports.

    • @BillClinton228
      @BillClinton228 Месяц назад +1

      That's pretty much every software engineer

    • @user-nh3gu1ge3d
      @user-nh3gu1ge3d 27 дней назад

      Knowing how much the materials cost is a "weird accounting metric" to you? Elon was right and you're dumb and soft. Cry about it.

    • @barbados3592
      @barbados3592 25 дней назад +4

      if only they put you in charge bro. then we'd see REAL results.

  • @pyotrberia9741
    @pyotrberia9741 Месяц назад +159

    Isn't the Idiot Index just a very small part of the complex Cost Management that is done by every manufacturer in the world?

    • @user-ek9go3kf2w
      @user-ek9go3kf2w Месяц назад +8

      basic capitalism

    • @alexi9108
      @alexi9108 Месяц назад +5

      Sure it is.

    • @ricinro
      @ricinro Месяц назад +31

      a corporate celebrity coins euphemisms. folks in the trenches are forced to learn new lingo.

    • @wkrp10splayer19
      @wkrp10splayer19 Месяц назад

      yes. but musk sycophants assure us that he created the formula for water

    • @MrRaulstrnad
      @MrRaulstrnad Месяц назад +10

      zes but musk is overdoing it better yet musk fans don't really understand what technical development entails

  • @Pumba_PIG
    @Pumba_PIG Месяц назад +98

    Some parts have low material cost but need to be produced on expensive machinery, others using ip. So often the cost of materials is irrelevant. What's relevant is whether the part is good value or not.

    • @sean-colinfort2111
      @sean-colinfort2111 Месяц назад +6

      Baselines are necessary. Without the "Idiot Index" how would you evaluate?

    • @Pumba_PIG
      @Pumba_PIG Месяц назад +15

      @@sean-colinfort2111 its dumb. For example, the raw material cost of a quality watch is about $1. Would you spend a million $ setting up a fa tory to make one and hire those with knowhow to operate the factory and then do all the testing just to make a one piece or would you just pay the $500 and save yourself a million bucks.

    • @Axel_Andersen
      @Axel_Andersen Месяц назад

      @@sean-colinfort2111 Idiot index is idiotic.
      Your first port of call is to check what are the most expensive parts, functions, procedures etc in your operation. Then you see if you can do without them. Next you see if you can BUY them parts cheaper. In a market economy there is a reason for the price of any goods and services and that market price is usually a good indication of the true cost of if. The cost of setting up production and the capital investment needed usually means that usually means that no single consumer of goods can cost effectively produce those goods. Like car manufactures do not manufacture steel, even Apple does not actually manufacture the M-chips, they have them made.
      And on a higher business level making anything at lower cost usually means driving the price of what you are selling down as the competition follows. So you end up doing more and getting less per unit which makes it harder to make a buck. High price low volume is much easier that high volume low price. Especially if the demand is limited ... and this begs the question for the demand of payloads that Super Heavy can carry.... the word idiotic springs to mind.

    • @snakevenom4954
      @snakevenom4954 Месяц назад

      If a pump is made out of titanium and costs thousands of dollars to machine, why not make it out of cheaper steel? A titanium pump is good value, but a steel one would be better value

    • @Axel_Andersen
      @Axel_Andersen Месяц назад +5

      @@snakevenom4954 Wood would be cheaper, pitty all those stupid engineers at the other aerospace companies did not realise this and it took the genius of Musk to realise that.

  • @rayoflight62
    @rayoflight62 Месяц назад +169

    The idiot index is what the name says.
    One Snapdragon SoC can cost $100, but the raw parts, ten microgram of silicon, one gram of epoxy resin may be cost five cents. That has a very high idiot index, and there is no way to reduce it...

    • @fireiceuk9221
      @fireiceuk9221 Месяц назад +31

      I am mentally appending an " 's" to make it an "Idiot's Index" and filing it with the same management-babble as OODA loop, i.e, things that sound plausible if you don't know anything about a particular subject and therefore are highly appealing to higher management.

    • @TobiKellner
      @TobiKellner Месяц назад +35

      Now imagine the index for software...

    • @bojangles2492
      @bojangles2492 Месяц назад +20

      What it does is force you to look at the high ratio parts and see if you can reduce their cost it doesn't mean you can reduce it.

    • @Typexviiib
      @Typexviiib Месяц назад +25

      I dont think you get the point, and ill use your example. That chip gets cheaper every year as manufacturing processes improve. The silicone didnt get any cheaper in the last 30 years but the performance per gram of silicone has exponentially increased without a corresponding price increase. The idiot index on cpus is closing

    • @jieli4589
      @jieli4589 Месяц назад +4

      Different industries will have different baseline

  • @morgan1719
    @morgan1719 Месяц назад +25

    What's the idiot index on buying Twitter for 40 Billion?

    • @gramma677
      @gramma677 Месяц назад

      We'd have to know the price of all the fundamental components of twitter's infrastructure and you could create the ratio. But I have a feeling you think the idiot index is a ranking not a ratio. Good job

    • @michaelnoble2432
      @michaelnoble2432 Месяц назад

      Musk was forced to pay that much by the courts. He wanted to back out when he found out that he'd been misled about the real state of Twitter.

    • @raggedclawstarcraft6562
      @raggedclawstarcraft6562 27 дней назад +2

      @@gramma677 still, ratio gives ranking. Good job not seeing that.

    • @drx1xym154
      @drx1xym154 14 дней назад

      What is the cost for abdicating responsibility to fundamental human rights - including Free Speech?
      Where you been over the last 6 years, bro??
      While you are entitled to your thought and comment(s) - it stinks.
      You sh!t the bed, bro.

    • @Allay-px9pt
      @Allay-px9pt 11 дней назад +1

      You cannot put a price on free speech. It's worth more than life.

  • @DNomer
    @DNomer Месяц назад +77

    His 'idiot index' is itself not very bright. For example, with microchips, the cheapest chips are quite cheap, and the most expensive ones are quite pricey, yet the cost of 'raw materials' is trivial in each case. You need to employ a much more comprehensive paradigm to judge what is a reasonable cost for 'item A'.

    • @sriharshacv7760
      @sriharshacv7760 Месяц назад +17

      There are quite a few things it doesn't apply to. At least microchips have silicon cost. Software products are virtual. Doesn't mean 0 cost. It is cost of the service. In the industry Elon Musk operates, idiot index is a way to triage parts whose production can be potentially streamlined.

    • @blucat4
      @blucat4 Месяц назад

      Yes, it's well named in that sense. You do of course need to make things efficient, but the way it's presented doesn't value the design and cost of making the parts etc.

    • @DNomer
      @DNomer Месяц назад +6

      @@sriharshacv7760 Yes, but consider the cost of 'raw' materials for microchips. The actual raw cost of sand is about $55/ton. That doesn't mean anything, really. You have to at least talk about a silicon ingot, which has LOTS of special processing involved in specialized facilities, etc. So it is not a 'raw' material. His idiot index does not really work.

    • @BernhardSchwarz-xs8kp
      @BernhardSchwarz-xs8kp Месяц назад

      You sound like all those who "fight the system" when it comes to implementing the Standards for Cost accounting systems - claiming that it is an absurdity to have to write down which jobs and how long they have used a hammer.
      Like in everything when it comes to analysis -therer is a "general" category. No - nails are not individuallyrecordedd inthe warehousee records.

    • @stevenwoerpel1884
      @stevenwoerpel1884 Месяц назад +3

      Generally there are not rules that apply to everything. He is not making micro chips, and if he was he would obviously understand that final price / raw materials does not make sense.

  • @donaldhobson8873
    @donaldhobson8873 Месяц назад +9

    This is a pretty stupid index.
    Lets take some products with Really large ratios.
    Product. A silicon chip. Raw material. A pinch of sand.
    Product, a single strand of DNA containing the genome for a custom designed organism. Input, raw amino acids.
    In the DNA example, designing the custom life form is going to take a lot of smart biologists, who want paid. Designing chips takes a lot of smart chip designers. The equipment to turn silicon into the chip is also expensive.
    Labor and equipment costs are real and important and having them be larger than material costs isn't a sign that anything is wrong.

  • @marknrogers
    @marknrogers Месяц назад +22

    Behind the lenses he is looking at these components to answer the age old question "Is it worth manufacturing the item on my own?" vs purchasing it.

  • @kasession
    @kasession Месяц назад +235

    This isn't just an Elon thing. This is a hard lesson about the corporate world. When you have a crucial deliverable, bosses don't care about what's going on in your private life. It's not fun, but it is the truth!!!

    • @ToadyMcgee
      @ToadyMcgee Месяц назад +53

      One of the things wrong in our society

    • @Supreme_Lobster
      @Supreme_Lobster Месяц назад +22

      @@ToadyMcgee not really

    • @Supreme_Lobster
      @Supreme_Lobster Месяц назад +34

      @@ToadyMcgee when you negotiate a salary this is exactly what you are negotiating. "how much do you have to pay me for me to not care about the fact that you dont give a sheit about me as a person?"

    • @ToadyMcgee
      @ToadyMcgee Месяц назад +39

      @@Supreme_Lobster We're wired differently. Let's agree to disagree.

    • @kmkvarma
      @kmkvarma Месяц назад +6

      She clearly said Elon didn’t know it at that time that he is going through something traumatic personally

  • @me91b
    @me91b Месяц назад +165

    My idiot index is how much a person admires Elon Musk :D

    • @gramma677
      @gramma677 Месяц назад +2

      how does it work or you just heard those words and used them in a sentence?

    • @GItoKeG
      @GItoKeG Месяц назад +3

      Admired him enough to leave a comment about him on a video about him....lol

    • @entrippyZ
      @entrippyZ Месяц назад +17

      The index is working, look theres two now!

    • @gramma677
      @gramma677 Месяц назад +3

      @@entrippyZ irony lol.

    • @teemuleppa3347
      @teemuleppa3347 Месяц назад +7

      only reason to not have respect for him is if your ideology differs frim his....beyond that...his track record is quite unique with ppl currently alive.....and your differing ideology _should not_ matter because its irrelevant for the subject....it tells quite a lot about you as a person.

  • @weerobot
    @weerobot Месяц назад +95

    Landing the Rocket...When Gravity is Free is a Hugh Idiot Index...🤣

    • @sir_albaxious1909
      @sir_albaxious1909 Месяц назад +13

      GENIUS!!!

    • @Darth_Bateman
      @Darth_Bateman Месяц назад +5

      . . . . . ugh. . .

    • @ConnorAustin
      @ConnorAustin Месяц назад

      Landing the rocket 10,000$ beuilding new rocket 5-10 million$ idiot index of 500/1 or 1000/1 so who is the idiot

    • @Runnmill
      @Runnmill Месяц назад

      Biggest idiot

    • @summerbreeze5115
      @summerbreeze5115 Месяц назад

      Yup
      Musk is an idiot

  • @alexanderkozlov7394
    @alexanderkozlov7394 Месяц назад +134

    as an industrial engineer I can say that only an idiot could think about an index like that

    • @ellsworthm.toohey7657
      @ellsworthm.toohey7657 Месяц назад

      I feel the same ! I realized musk was a con man years ago with the Hyperloop, boring company etc.... Luckily, he has a church of followers that are better idiots !

    • @aaronpierson8748
      @aaronpierson8748 Месяц назад +13

      This is why engineers are managed by accountants.

    • @BillClinton228
      @BillClinton228 Месяц назад

      Anyone who says "I know more about manufacturing than anyone alive" is displaying the dunning kruger effect... they are an idiot is what I'm trying to say.

    • @ophello
      @ophello Месяц назад +4

      Why is it wrong to do things efficiently and spend less money?

    • @alexanderkozlov7394
      @alexanderkozlov7394 Месяц назад +21

      @@ophello
      nothing is wrong with efficiency, but there are some rules in order to set an efficiency index properly.
      One of those rules is "relevance".
      In any industrial processes there are many costs beyond "raw material".
      Sometimes the raw material costs could be irrelevant.
      This dumb index would consider "idiotic" all the following:
      farmaceutical (main cost: R&D)
      semiconductors (main cost: equipment)
      aerospace (main costs: all the above plus advanced quality control in order to prevent the destruction of the whole vehicle)

  • @KidHowren
    @KidHowren Месяц назад +17

    can't decide if elon is the world's smartest pseudo-intellectual or the world's dumbest intellectual

    • @arex20
      @arex20 28 дней назад +10

      Neither. More like a cult leader of the world's biggest cult.

  • @jespado
    @jespado Месяц назад +145

    The only one who will not be held accountable for a bad idea is Elon himself.

    • @ToiChutGongFlu
      @ToiChutGongFlu Месяц назад

      He's the boss of his companies and loses money from his bad ideas, he can't fire himself can he? Try harder Elon hater.

    • @sa34w
      @sa34w Месяц назад +14

      Because he has points he has achieved by creating Paypal , Tesla , Space X, Open AI , Boring company , Neuralink etc. how many people do you know who have at-least close to innovative companies Elon has invested , worked and driven in a leadership role. Your competence matters in real life. If you are Jay Z people will value your opinion in music even if your life is questionable, same with Elon . He excels in working in Tech

    • @jespado
      @jespado Месяц назад

      @@sa34w I think you need to read up a bit on what he has “created”. For sure not PayPal and OpenAI he has sued. Boring company is basically gone and X is down the drain. Weird that you didn’t mention the extremely successful hyper loop project that he started and fooled many to invest time and money into for his own personal benefits. Tesla and SpaceX are successful but I can assure you that starship will never land on the moon.

    • @siquod
      @siquod Месяц назад +8

      Oh, he is held accountable. But his accounts can afford to lose a few billion. Only if he does too much stupid stuff he'll actually feel the consequences.

    • @alexi9108
      @alexi9108 Месяц назад

      He did none of this. His dad's money did. He has an iq of an average entitled frat dude. ​@@sa34w

  • @aclearlight
    @aclearlight Месяц назад +49

    I've had the chance to know managers from Tesla. Vision and capabilities aside, Elon is frequently cruel and capricious in how he treats people. He's a nightmare boss. People leave scarred.

    • @helmshardover
      @helmshardover Месяц назад +11

      In this case though, the guy was the financial analyst for the Raptor, how would he not know raw steel price is about $700 a ton??? Or all the raw cost prices of materials for that matter?

    • @island97
      @island97 Месяц назад +6

      Yet tesla and SpaceX employees have rated the companies as the best places to work. And elon has been ranked in the top 5 best CEOs by his employees.

    • @itemushmush
      @itemushmush Месяц назад

      @@island97 Tesla?? The one where black employees have said that they were racially abused and said that managers call them "working on the plantation"? THAT tesla?

    • @AlainDessureault
      @AlainDessureault Месяц назад +11

      @@island97 Seems nonsensical to rank a CEO highly when they're driven to attain a nonsensical goal. Rushing to get to Mars at this time, or in the foreseeable future, is unjustifiable rubbish

    • @island97
      @island97 Месяц назад

      @@AlainDessureault are you dumb? You are aware SpaceX launch astronauts and supplies to the ISS ?? They launch satellites for both private and public sector.
      By your logic. 98% of CEO run nonsensical compaines therefore their performance and management means nothing ?

  • @mistercohaagen
    @mistercohaagen Месяц назад +29

    The cost of machining is the only thing that adds value to raw materials. It would be something like human labor * technique + raw materials * automation squared. Obviously something like AI could be used to up the weight of "technique", but that'll add a bit to labor cost because you need more specialized labor. This "Idiot Index" is basically the exact same process every corporation is using for cost savings, and something close to Capitalism's push to make everything, including labor itself some kind of market externality they can push the cost of off on someone else's shoulders, so they can steal that value as profit as well. Literally nothing new here to see, aside from tricking people to do rocket science for minimum wage.

    • @TheSachmo6
      @TheSachmo6 Месяц назад +8

      Seriously! The exclusion of the labor in the cost is some kind of fantasy

    • @GizmoMaltese
      @GizmoMaltese Месяц назад +11

      I wonder what the idiot index is on a CPU? The value of a CPU can't be judged by its raw materials. And what about steel? What's the cost of coal? How about you create your own steel plant? Expertise needed to combine the raw materials has to be considered. And can you obtain those raw materials at the same price as a company that buys large amounts of this raw materials at a discount? Is buying the equipment to process the raw materials cost effective when you're not in that business.

    • @user-ek9go3kf2w
      @user-ek9go3kf2w Месяц назад +5

      It looks that Elon learned that primitive capitalist lesson very well. Still his water tanks rockets will never take people to Mars in this shape. He needs more innovation than material so that ratio will exceed a lot more the idiot index .

    • @Sal3600
      @Sal3600 Месяц назад

      its called vertical integration@@GizmoMaltese

    • @GizmoMaltese
      @GizmoMaltese Месяц назад +5

      @@Sal3600 I know it's called vertical integration. I'm just pointing that just looking at raw materials is rather pointless in all but the most basic parts.

  • @kendrom
    @kendrom Месяц назад +3

    I think some context is missing here. I work in manufacturing as a machinist. It's been my experience that it is true, that engineers will occasionally over-engineer a part. Eg; opt to machine a part, that would be cheaper to fabricate.
    But fabrication comes with its own costs as well. Fabricated parts are usually much cheaper, but they also can require large costs in tooling to get to that point...and if you aren't running large volumes of parts, the cost can be counter-productive.
    You don't want to spend millions in fabrication tooling, when you're focused on low volume prototype parts. In that case, the high cost of machining, might still be the better way to go.
    Also, certain parts are high precision for a reason, and there is really no getting around it.
    When the video said that "Elon cares about humanity, but in a macro sense", I found that kind of troubling. It initially implies that he's potentially willing to cut corners and make sacrifices...maybe where human lives are concerned?

    • @rpscorp9457
      @rpscorp9457 28 дней назад

      90,000$ for a bag of bushings..its that sort of thing he was talking about.

    • @nutbastard
      @nutbastard 26 дней назад

      He's on record stating matter of factly that the Mars project WILL cause some deaths, that it is inevitable, and that anyone who can't swallow that fact need not apply.
      Sounds harsh but he's probably right and it is better to rip that bandaid off sooner rather than later. Frankly I find the lack of sugarcoating refreshing.

  • @maggot1111666
    @maggot1111666 Месяц назад +3

    elon really pulled "physics doesn't care about your feeling" LOL

    • @raggedclawstarcraft6562
      @raggedclawstarcraft6562 27 дней назад +1

      it's bold to think that he is an embodiment of physics lmao.
      But jokes aside - it was just his excuse to handwave away criticism sent his way.

  • @shableep
    @shableep Месяц назад +89

    Super cool story. Now I'm thinking, how do you use the idiot index on software?

    • @LuisSierra42
      @LuisSierra42 Месяц назад +22

      By paying less to engineers

    • @AnyWayICan
      @AnyWayICan Месяц назад +6

      Depends if you are talking about developing software or purchasing it.

    • @seancollins9745
      @seancollins9745 Месяц назад +15

      how much does each feature cost, and how much value does it add, and what are mission critical portions.

    • @Chaos_rider_666
      @Chaos_rider_666 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@LuisSierra42😂 true

    • @bhuvaneshs.k638
      @bhuvaneshs.k638 Месяц назад +3

      Using gpt models

  • @damham5689
    @damham5689 Месяц назад +24

    The us government needs to use the idiot index with pharmaceutical, medical treatments, military purchases and all contracts with companies, even with Space X and Tesla. Think of how much $$$ taxpayers would save.

    • @ibtehaj-khan
      @ibtehaj-khan Месяц назад +4

      Nevertheless, government will waste the saved money on irrelevant international problems.

    • @Axel_Andersen
      @Axel_Andersen Месяц назад +2

      @@ibtehaj-khan How are international problems irrelevant? 9/11 was very much international problem and what about immigrants flocking America, or oil imports and exports ... contrary to what some people think Texas is not the whole world and the global problems have consequences in Iowa too.

    • @BernhardSchwarz-xs8kp
      @BernhardSchwarz-xs8kp Месяц назад +2

      Don't get confused between the "idiot index" and "being an idiot". One is an analytical took - the other is a painful reality and fact when it comes to DC.

    • @niconico3907
      @niconico3907 Месяц назад

      ​@@Axel_Andersenmaybe if you leave other countries alone, they won't try to destroy you anyway they can. If you start wars in other countries, they'll bring back the wars to you.

    • @gramma677
      @gramma677 Месяц назад

      @@BernhardSchwarz-xs8kp Gov procurement looks at bigger number and thinks it's the best. That's why Gerber's military multitool is 8x the cost of the same civilian version. Politicians are idiots and the simplicity flows into all aspects they govern. We are idiots for electing them. It's idiots all the way down.

  • @kodtech
    @kodtech Месяц назад +42

    This "idiot index" is like evaluate the price of a rock by the price of constituent elements...

    • @bryck7853
      @bryck7853 Месяц назад +2

      the idiot index would be very low for people like Archimedes: he used a stick and drew figures in sand

    • @kodtech
      @kodtech Месяц назад +2

      @@bryck7853 Wrong, because the stick was moved by Archimedes, which was the most expensive man of its time 😁

    • @donaldhobson8873
      @donaldhobson8873 Месяц назад

      Which works fairly ok for high quality gold ores.
      But assigns the same price to coal and diamonds.

    • @kodtech
      @kodtech Месяц назад

      @@donaldhobson8873 An ORE is the name given to a rock or group of rocks that contain something that makes economic sense... what are you talking about? You better find some Rhodium ore... 😀

    • @cannonfodder4812
      @cannonfodder4812 Месяц назад

      ​@@kodtechhe said the index cost would be low for archamedes, not the people paying archamedes.

  • @Nobody-iy6tm
    @Nobody-iy6tm 28 дней назад +3

    I like the name : “Idiot Index”. But I would take a different index. “Total cost” vs “Payload”.
    Just googled, whether Balloons are already used instead of rocket and found :
    Launching Rockets from Balloons is About to be a Thing, But We Need a Better Name than “Rockoons”
    I am not sure, whether I like the name *Rockoons* . But I like the idea and we should forget about classic Rockets.
    There are a couple of other ideas, but Rockoons can be the cheapest.

  • @nerenahd
    @nerenahd Месяц назад +145

    Elon is the benchmark for the idiot index.

    • @dthornto31
      @dthornto31 Месяц назад +35

      Everyone in the room is now dumber after reading your remark

    • @nerenahd
      @nerenahd Месяц назад

      @@dthornto31 Even idiots have fan-boys and cult followers.

    • @ToiChutGongFlu
      @ToiChutGongFlu Месяц назад +1

      Ever wonder how high your idiot index is?

    • @shanep.9442
      @shanep.9442 Месяц назад

      You've outed yourself as a complete fool.

    • @michaelbierek1385
      @michaelbierek1385 Месяц назад +3

      I’m going to need an itemized report on my desk before noon tomorrow or its absence as resignation.

  • @user-dr2pg8fk2i
    @user-dr2pg8fk2i 11 дней назад +2

    "Tough manager" meaning toxic and ineffective leader who actual leaders within the company come in behind and cleanup after.

  • @TrentDan
    @TrentDan Месяц назад +3

    My brother had died when I was on the job, I got ZERO sympathy or understanding in my hard times by coworkers or management

    • @raggedclawstarcraft6562
      @raggedclawstarcraft6562 27 дней назад

      I feel you brother. You're not human being with emotions; personal life; persona, after all. You're just a tool. Or worse - a cog in the machine. And how they feel is not important, right?
      And definitely how people feel and their psychological state is not going to affect their motivation and performance, doesn't it?

    • @domsau2
      @domsau2 8 дней назад +2

      I give You my sympathy and understanding.

  • @dthornto31
    @dthornto31 Месяц назад +52

    Not wrong. These are high pressure situations. It is his managerial tactic and obviously it works very well for him. It is not easy to do great things. If you are looking for easy, there are plenty more mundane jobs out there

    • @Alistair
      @Alistair Месяц назад +4

      yeah this just comes across as a weird, sad attempt at an emotional hit piece on Elon

    • @island97
      @island97 Месяц назад +3

      @@Alistair it is harsh, but some people thrive in this environment. Its defo not for everyone. There was a recent story of a Tesla AI engineer leaving because he was burnt out, then returned less then 2yrs later because he was bored at his other job .lol

    • @ACtuber123
      @ACtuber123 Месяц назад

      if you are looking to work for some overhyped, a-hole's dream while not earning millions. There's Space X jobs out there.

    • @j.ceasar
      @j.ceasar Месяц назад

      @@Alistair Truth hurts, huh?

    • @marcuspvxea
      @marcuspvxea 29 дней назад

      Specially when the guy is getting paid 2-3 times more than the average person in the same job title.
      All i hear is someone who lied on his resume and used excuses to not fullfill his basic duties. Nearly every average paid person would be able to answer the questions ontopp of their heads. It's their sole responsibility to know. Pathetic that people try to excuse it. I'd get it if he was getting paid below average.
      I know several people at our company who's job is anything but in the economical department, but they well know whats bad money for the company in terms of the products sold/produced.

  • @unwind-theband
    @unwind-theband Месяц назад +3

    The way you repeatedly saying f ing f ing .. its hilarious 😆 😂

  • @LowellBoggs
    @LowellBoggs 20 дней назад +1

    I was impressed by Musk's comment about "people having a strong feedback loop". If you have never taken control theory in college, you may not grasp the power of feedback loops to control the world. Almost all control equipment in the whole world uses some form of closed loop feedback. In that class, and a few years later in my first job, I realized that feedback was the key to people being able to improve things. No one can get things right the first time, except by accident, and no one executes perfectly every day. The key to making improvements is repeated refinement of process to achieve a particular goal based on new information becoming available. Interesting, I could not convince my managers of this fact. Managers typically run in an open-loop. That is, they issue orders and expect other people to make them happen.
    Having said all this, it can be exhausting to be part of that feedback loop. The agile s/w methodology basically is a codification of a closed feedback loop. A fellow programmer some years ago said that she preferred the waterfall methodology because it was a lot more peaceful. Closed loop can make you feel like you are on a mission from God, or "Gad", as John Belushi would have said.

  • @arumatai
    @arumatai 14 дней назад +1

    When you go to the super market you will realise that most food items are priced at at least 10$ per kg no matter the price of raw materials. prices have more to do with what they can make the customer accept (by programming them via social engineering) than by cost reality.
    That's the idiot index for all us.

  • @AC3handle
    @AC3handle 27 дней назад +7

    Dude should have just scribbled his name and the date, and handed it over, and said "okay, here. Resigned"
    The level of 'fuck this shit' is off the charts here.

  • @Meinejambalaya
    @Meinejambalaya 28 дней назад +4

    looks like Elon wants to run a marathon distance with 100m dash pace. Non-sustainable, it's sad, as he will have more delays as many people will leave and they will spent more time on hiring and onboarding, than actual work

  • @johnlucich5026
    @johnlucich5026 Месяц назад +1

    In military SpecForces the Motto is NEVER QUIT-But- I added: “I CHEAT FAIR” ! ? and got a Hug from Commanding Officer ! ?

  • @SoroushTorkian
    @SoroushTorkian 25 дней назад +1

    This ratio is like BMI. It can be fudged if there's not enough context.
    What if I said the raw material and the product was the same price thereby bringing it closer to a 1:1 ratio? Like making the raw material more expensive but the production is still the same price.
    Who is the idiot now?

  • @zinussan50
    @zinussan50 Месяц назад +21

    Bottom line is, it's easy to say anything rude to others when you got billions dollar

    • @dthornto31
      @dthornto31 Месяц назад +2

      Bottom line is that he invests his billions into his passion. Which in his case is trying to save humanity. When people are passionate emotions can run high, because you care. I hope that one day you find whatever it is that drives you on that level. That you are willing to sacrifice great things for it. And at times you will yell

    • @gmmo
      @gmmo Месяц назад +1

      I might have retired after few millions not even billions 🤣 no passion just fun..

    • @MrRaulstrnad
      @MrRaulstrnad Месяц назад +6

      it's easy to say anything rude to others WHEN YOU LIVE OFF GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIES

    • @zinussan50
      @zinussan50 Месяц назад +1

      @@MrRaulstrnad who exactly?

    • @dthornto31
      @dthornto31 Месяц назад +1

      @MrRaulstrnad. The entire industry is based on government subsidies so your point is moot. If others could do it better they would. But they arent even close. Try again

  • @sunnymon1436
    @sunnymon1436 Месяц назад +8

    In Kantian philosophy, particularly in the realm of ethics, the idea of dehumanizing someone and treating them merely as a means to an end is often associated with the concept of instrumentalization or instrumental reasoning. This is closely related to Immanuel Kant's principle of treating humanity, whether in oneself or in others, always as an end in itself, and never merely as a means to some other end.
    When individuals are reduced to mere instruments or tools for the achievement of one's goals, their intrinsic worth as rational beings capable of moral agency is disregarded. This dehumanizing treatment undermines their dignity and autonomy, which are central to Kantian ethics. Instead of recognizing and respecting the inherent value and rationality of individuals, they are objectified and exploited solely for the benefit of others.

    • @gramma677
      @gramma677 Месяц назад

      And we're talking about rocket scientists here. I'm sure they are capable of taking care of themselves. They are surely sentient. Kant was a philosopher, we must remember it's speculative. Better to talk to people who work at spacex and see if they are happy, or content, if the interest is their welfare. You'd have data and wouldn't have to speculate. From my anecdotal perspective, spacex employees seem incredibly satisfied in their bleeding edge work and success. Also paid very well. Imagine working somewhere where you do things that have never been done. Wouldn't that be amazing?

    • @ACtuber123
      @ACtuber123 Месяц назад +1

      @@gramma677 you talk about data and then you say anecdotal perspective. Those two aint compatible.

  • @willkydd
    @willkydd 7 дней назад

    "If you stick with me you will win." Kinda funny given the recent layoffs, but technically correct.

  • @guymercier627
    @guymercier627 Месяц назад +23

    I have seen this many times... when people care about humanity and great causes they often don't care about their neighbour difficulties and the opposite is also very true... people shouting against great human causes saying it's just bullshit, but cannot pass in front of a bag people without giving them money.

    • @emmanuel8310
      @emmanuel8310 Месяц назад +1

      Well, I'll rather do both.
      However, saying you care about humanity but not about your neighbor seems very hideous to me.
      It's like a movie villain.
      So, honestly, I basically reject that model.

    • @Axel_Andersen
      @Axel_Andersen Месяц назад +3

      Elon caring about humanity??? If we could get to Mars and terraform it we could certainly solve all the same problems here on earth, faster and cheaper. If he really cared for humanity he would concentrate on solving problems like pollution, poverty, wars etc here. But he only cares about his own passions.

    • @gramma677
      @gramma677 Месяц назад +1

      @@Axel_Andersen All those problems are solved. Governments just don't enact the necessary policies. He's a private citizen, so he wants to go to mars. That's great. But solving long solved problems is a ridiculous pursuit.

    • @Axel_Andersen
      @Axel_Andersen Месяц назад +1

      @@gramma677 I was commenting the comment that Musks cares about humanity. And that is laughable. If he wants t go to Mars, fine, that is his funeral. But if he really cared about humanity he tried to solve problems on earth and not try to start over in an environment which is full of nothing but unsolved technical and economical problems.

    • @gramma677
      @gramma677 Месяц назад

      @@Axel_Andersen I don't think it's about humanity, maybe it is in his mind. It's fine to go to another planet. All the problems on earth are solved. It's just leaders are unable to enact the necessary policies. Poverty is solved, hunger solved. Now we still have these problems because leaders don't do the things that are already demonstrated to fix them as they have in many many many countries. I agree with you though, really. Nothing could happen to earth that would make it as unfriendly to life as mars is. It should just be fine to want to go to mars, for its own sake. But you are right on many points. I wonder if Elon really believes the altruistic message, or if he just wants to go to mars. Which is fine.

  • @Doug97803
    @Doug97803 Месяц назад +4

    It's literally impossible to get anything done - and I mean anything - without stepping on someone's toes. It's just life.

  • @simp-slayer
    @simp-slayer Месяц назад +68

    Humanity is not going to Mars if there is no humanity left in us.

    • @threethrushes
      @threethrushes Месяц назад +4

      Insightful, and gets to the root of the problem: human nature.

    • @jballaviator
      @jballaviator Месяц назад +1

      The entire point of starting a selective separate society free from the anarchy our home has become. If we all become dust tomorrow at least the best aspects will carry on.

    • @FromFame
      @FromFame Месяц назад +3

      ripped right out of r/im14andthisisdepp
      Shut up, solve problems, or leave

    • @simp-slayer
      @simp-slayer Месяц назад

      @@FromFame I don't need advice from reddit incels. Keep that 💩 to yourself.

    • @simp-slayer
      @simp-slayer Месяц назад

      ​@@FromFameI don't need advice from reddit inc€|s. Keep that 💩 to yourself.

  • @johnocampo552
    @johnocampo552 Месяц назад +1

    Telemarketing Robocall: "Please state the rating between 0 and 10 of the "CEO" Idiot Index....." Enter press 1 for the number input....Enter press 2 to repeat....

    • @gramma677
      @gramma677 Месяц назад +1

      Idiot index is a ratio not an attribution. But yeah, you're very insightful I'd attribute a 1.

  • @colleenforrest7936
    @colleenforrest7936 Месяц назад

    There was s some truth to this. When I was in engineering school, I had a teacher that had worked with a NASA contractor. He said he would routinely see someone take a regular hareware screw off the shelf that cost about 5 cents at the time, put in in a bag and write "Space Screw, $1.25.". There has traditionally been a lot of graft in the industry.
    But "how much is your customer willing to pay for an item" is also how we determine what the price point of an item will be. The highter the price point over cost of material, labor, maintenance and plant build, the more profit is made, and the more investors will invest in the product.
    So, now the manufacturer has investors, whom by law have to see a profit on their investment. But they have a buyer who wants to lower the price point signifagantly. Easy, just lower your profit margin, right?
    The answer to this question will be left to those who work in actual corporate America... Or any other country.

  • @sandyago4735
    @sandyago4735 Месяц назад +80

    Musk is pretty high up on the index,emotionally

    • @gtdcoder
      @gtdcoder Месяц назад +16

      Mentally, too.

    • @geraldg350
      @geraldg350 Месяц назад +10

      And yet the alleged emotionally superior beings such as yourself are insignificant in the grand scheme of things. It's almost as if the universe doesn't care about that.

    • @Runnmill
      @Runnmill Месяц назад

      Yup

    • @Runnmill
      @Runnmill Месяц назад

      Yuuup

    • @quidproquo82
      @quidproquo82 Месяц назад +3

      ​@@geraldg350and what do you do what's so ground breaking lol

  • @DCGreenZone
    @DCGreenZone Месяц назад +6

    I'd be depressed too if I knew I wasn't going to build a cabin on Mars.

  • @JanBadertscher
    @JanBadertscher Месяц назад

    Disclosure: I did Multi-Criteria-Ranking Optimizations.
    The "Idiot Index" is a good marker, but it's not the whole picture. It ranks parts by their cost-to-material ratios, but just because a part ranks high doesn't mean it's worth optimizing.
    Consider a part that costs USD 100K with USD 1K in materials. This gives a ratio of 100. Now consider a part that costs USD 20 with USD 0.1 materials, which gives a ratio of 200. The second part's ratio is higher, but you save much less by optimizing it.
    Imagine a spaceship full of these low-cost parts. They'd top the list, but optimizing them wouldn't save much. That's why we need to consider not just the ratio but also the total cost. Ranking by total cost as well as ratio makes sure high-priced and high-ratio parts are our focus.
    I'm not saying SpaceX doesn't do this. I'm just saying the video simplifies things a bit.

  • @salamandyr
    @salamandyr Месяц назад +20

    This wasn't actually about the "idiot index". Would have been better if it had been.

  • @JaimeLannister13
    @JaimeLannister13 Месяц назад +15

    really gives me Homer working for Mr. Scorpio vibes

    • @LuisSierra42
      @LuisSierra42 Месяц назад +6

      Real bro, I used to admire Elon a few years back but I've slowly seen him turn into a villain and dangerously, one of the most powerful individuals on the planet

    • @raggedclawstarcraft6562
      @raggedclawstarcraft6562 27 дней назад

      @@LuisSierra42 this means that your idiot index decreased. I congratulate you, brother.

  • @DragonLong-vs3zf
    @DragonLong-vs3zf Месяц назад +9

    "Idiot index" is used to judge one product floating over value or not, it's super meaningful not only considering on manufacture but also throughout human being life as well.

    • @user-ps1ft1hy4j
      @user-ps1ft1hy4j Месяц назад +4

      I can illustrate that. In terms of the product of my wages vs. what they were worth to me, particularly when money gets weighed against the worth of my time to live a normal life and health in all its aspects.
      I was asked to work split shifts, 6 am to 2 pm and 6 pm to 10 pm. Problem is I'm biologically a night owl. On my normal 12-hour days I wake up at 4:20 am and by the time I get home at 6:30 pm, I eat and then just flop to sleep. That's the only way I can make up for my exhaustion at not working according to my personal circadian rhythm. But when I did split shifts, I got home at 10:30 pm and because of my night owl nature, couldn't fall asleep till about 2 a.m. So I wound up working on a bit over 2 hours sleep a day for multiple days. And then stepping into 12-hour shifts on top of that. Boy was I out of it. For days afterward too, my sleep schedule was crazy and I did not feel clear at all. For me, the product of my labor, that is, cash and higher regard at the company, was not worth the greatly increased difficulty at work and being completely drained afterward even on my days off. I thought splitting my shifts and working extra was worth it. At the cost of my health and clarity and ability to have any pleasure if only to curry favor and/or avoid office politics pain. It wasn't. The money would have had to be far better to not let me fall into an idiot metric with regard to the value of my labor and life. SO MUCH extra effort and negative health effects for relatively little money.

    • @DragonLong-vs3zf
      @DragonLong-vs3zf Месяц назад +2

      @@user-ps1ft1hy4j Thanks for illustrating many real details in your labor life to us.

    • @MediaFilter
      @MediaFilter Месяц назад

      @@user-ps1ft1hy4j is that boring person who is constantly waiting for an opportunity to turn the conversation to "ME ME ME".
      Even when that means comparing their pathetic life to an historic spacecraft launch.

    • @jonashellsborn7648
      @jonashellsborn7648 Месяц назад +4

      @@MediaFilter the user you address in your pathetic rant only added a "lived experience" record in the "Work vs Life" discussion that goes on above. It will be interesting to see the outcome of 4d workweek experiments that have started recently in several places. Allegedly longer days, so 10h I suppose. Others (mostly women) want 6.5h days.
      It seems like (especially younger) males are easier to to manipulate to sacrifice themselves to a "greater" cause.

    • @user-ps1ft1hy4j
      @user-ps1ft1hy4j Месяц назад +1

      @@jonashellsborn7648 Thank you. I was only trying to helpfully validate the poster's thesis before being blindsided by a troll ambush. Even if I'm not interesting, and I have no desire to win over the whole world, I thought it was useful to broaden and validate the discussion regardless. Seems positive to me.

  • @pedrosura
    @pedrosura 24 дня назад

    It seems that the Optimus Robot’s job is to lower the Idiot index.
    There is one aspect of the idiot index that may go unnoticed. What if you design a rocket with 33 engines and you lower the idiot index by half but ignore the fact that your design
    Multiplies the idiot index 33x.

  • @kevinmathewson4272
    @kevinmathewson4272 24 дня назад

    Things cost money for three reasons: labor, rent, and lack of competition. Elon, someone has to make the damn thing, and you have to pay them to do it.

  • @TyroneSayWTF
    @TyroneSayWTF Месяц назад +4

    I read the Isaacson biography of Elon Musk - and concluded that (even if I was highly qualified) I would never work for him (Musk) at SpaceX, Tesla, X, or any other company he runs; he's a relentless slave driver. On the other hand, to be a shareholder in a Musk-run company is a likely path toward substantial investment returns and financial bliss.
    To summarize:
    - being a Musk employee == bad
    - being a Musk company shareholder == good

    • @alexi9108
      @alexi9108 Месяц назад +2

      Tesla is currently doing not so good in terms of share price

    • @TyroneSayWTF
      @TyroneSayWTF Месяц назад +4

      @@alexi9108 Sooner or later reality catches up with hype and Tesla is no exception. Electric cars are NOT the be-all-end-all solution to mankind's transportation needs - and investors finally figured that out (i.e. Tesla stock was WAY overvalued). Nonetheless, there was a time when Tesla WAS one of the most valuable companies in the world - let alone, THE most valuable (based on market cap) automobile company in the world.

    • @FrankyPi
      @FrankyPi Месяц назад +1

      @@TyroneSayWTF Tesla bubble was created mostly out of fraudulent claims and promises for FSD and all the imaginary benefits of owning a Tesla, even Musk admitted it was overvalued so it's funny how long it took lol

  • @justincase5272
    @justincase5272 Месяц назад +3

    Whenever I encountered processes or procedures that were broken, I didn't listen to those who said, "Oh, that's always been broken," "we've been trying to fix that for years," or "there's no way you can fix that - not enough time!"
    I simply fixed it.
    Sometimes it took me weeks. On occasion, it would take me months.
    "Do, or do not. There is no try." - Yoda

  • @benjaminkoch2380
    @benjaminkoch2380 Месяц назад +2

    I thougt him having an idiot index meant, that they had a list with all the stupid ideas elon has

    • @bigmock141
      @bigmock141 28 дней назад +1

      Me too

    • @CunningStuntsGoFast
      @CunningStuntsGoFast 23 дня назад

      like imigrating to america , creating paypal , tesla , space x among many others and become the wealthiest person to ever lived in the process ? who are you lololol ?

    • @benjaminkoch2380
      @benjaminkoch2380 23 дня назад

      @@CunningStuntsGoFast ideas like the cyber truck, the hyper loop, the tesla tunnels etc. That are really stupid

  • @jeffg4686
    @jeffg4686 2 дня назад

    I would not like to be dead before getting to MARS.
    WOW!
    The banks got him EARLY.

  • @ernestv10
    @ernestv10 Месяц назад +14

    AS USUAL musk TAKES SOMEONE'S IDEA AND MAKES IT HIS OWN... I'M SURE HENRY FORD USED THE SAME RATIO BUILDING THE MODEL T...

    • @CalciumBrony-hv8de
      @CalciumBrony-hv8de Месяц назад +4

      The model tS never exploded violently in space

    • @coffeegator6033
      @coffeegator6033 Месяц назад

      All CAPS huh like a grown up?

    • @user-ko1yn8ci6c
      @user-ko1yn8ci6c Месяц назад

      I wanted to say how silly you sound, but realized it would be a waste of time.

    • @gramma677
      @gramma677 Месяц назад +1

      It's just an operating principle. I don't think it's original and he doesn't either. But it's effective. Henry Ford certainly didn't use the same ratio, as we have detailed history about that time, but he had similar principles, even if it wasn't a defined ratio. What do you want from people? Going to space isn't enough, like what do you want?

  • @abrarjahin8848
    @abrarjahin8848 Месяц назад +9

    Please make one about Boltzmann

    • @sandyago4735
      @sandyago4735 Месяц назад +2

      Yes for sure!

    • @summerbreeze5115
      @summerbreeze5115 Месяц назад

      Who is that?

    • @abrarjahin8848
      @abrarjahin8848 Месяц назад +1

      @@summerbreeze5115 Boltzmann was a physicist who has major contributions in statistical mechanics and has also given the statistical description of 2nd law of thermodynamics.. i couldnt get to much about him...

    • @summerbreeze5115
      @summerbreeze5115 Месяц назад

      @@abrarjahin8848
      He committed suicide
      Must have been a weak man :P
      I had used in equation when i was in high school in the chapter "gaseous State" something that sort

    • @abrarjahin8848
      @abrarjahin8848 Месяц назад +1

      @@summerbreeze5115 to be honest we can determine him weak as we dont clearly know what happened to his mental condition .. i heard many people didnt believe him started going against him.. And that is what i clearly want to know what made him suicide even though it was a bad idea...

  • @peterm.2385
    @peterm.2385 Месяц назад +1

    What has been the raw material Value of Twitter?

  • @brrryan2908
    @brrryan2908 19 дней назад

    I don't regret passing on the opportunity to work in Sparks Nevada, because my talents would not have been applied there. The idiot index was coined by a dispassionate overzealous idiot.
    @DNomer said it very well:
    His 'idiot index' is itself not very bright. For example, with microchips, the cheapest chips are quite cheap, and the most expensive ones are quite pricey, yet the cost of 'raw materials' is trivial in each case. You need to employ a much more comprehensive paradigm to judge what is a reasonable cost for 'item A'.

  • @4.0Solutions
    @4.0Solutions Месяц назад +5

    People giving businesses far too much credit. Most people accept parts for what they are. Aka Idiots

  • @ongwy66
    @ongwy66 Месяц назад +10

    There is a vast over-simplification using "idiot-index" in this video. This isn't something new from Elon Musk. It has been around for decades: think of Lean and The Toyota Way and the topic is far more nuanced than just slashing costs. I hope they didn't cut out so many of the processes to make the Raptor engine cheaper so as to make it unsafe. As an engineer, I can tell you that this is a fine line to thread and any poor decision making to make cost an issue over safety would ultimately have real-world life ending consequences. Think of Challenger, Columbia and more recently Boeing. And, pssst, physics also doesn’t care about the bottom line.

    • @PartnershipsForYou
      @PartnershipsForYou Месяц назад +1

      Sure but Elon is still a cuck

    • @magnate5
      @magnate5 13 дней назад

      " What caused the catastrophic failure of the Space Shuttle Challenger on that cold Florida morning of January 28, 1986? From a technical perspective, experts cite lower-than-expected launch temperatures at Florida's Cape Canaveral, which caused a tiny rubber part called an O-ring to malfunction. "

  • @BijouBakson
    @BijouBakson Месяц назад +2

    I really want to work for SpaceX, or Tesla, to learn Elon's mindset at work.

    • @K1RTB
      @K1RTB Месяц назад +5

      It's actually really simple: He thinks he knows better than you. You agree with everything he says and you're golden. Also means you have to execute his incredibly stupid ideas even when you know they are stupid. Disagree and you're fired. Oh, and don't expect any loyalty in return.

    • @BijouBakson
      @BijouBakson Месяц назад

      If reusable rockets and electric cars are what you call stupid ideas, I think I would rather take my chance with Elon's stupid ideas. You'd be amazed at how quick his job roles are filled. As for loyalty, his companies seem to have some of the highest wages. Perhaps you know better? have you worked for any of his companies? If so, what is your personal experience?@@K1RTB

    • @GizmoMaltese
      @GizmoMaltese Месяц назад

      I can yell at you and humiliate you if that's what you need.

    • @tyruslawhorn
      @tyruslawhorn Месяц назад +2

      Lol... "Elon's mindset". This might be the funniest RUclips comment ever. I mean, you can't make this shit up

    • @raggedclawstarcraft6562
      @raggedclawstarcraft6562 27 дней назад

      @@tyruslawhorn people are far in musk admiration lmao.

  • @KnurdMonkey
    @KnurdMonkey Месяц назад

    The idiot index does not mean nothing. There are raw materials that do not cost that much, but working, shaping, welding they are a nightmare.
    For the same reason if you go to a three star Michelin restaurant you are not paying just the raw materials.

  • @JP-kp9kh
    @JP-kp9kh 29 дней назад +9

    It's easy to be a "leader" when you are the main shareholder and the guy who gets all the reward and the limelight.

    • @Benny360-qd2nv
      @Benny360-qd2nv 12 дней назад +1

      Do you mean theft of previous work payments from Denver mint

  • @Wild8Cat
    @Wild8Cat Месяц назад +36

    But does he know his own Infantile Index? People who have worked with, sorry FOR him, say it's very high.

    • @bastian6173
      @bastian6173 Месяц назад

      Can't really blame him though... The environment that he was born into, with his genetical makeup ... he's an aspie and if that's how he copes with his brain operating at a million miles an hour, I'm ok with it. I just don't want to ever work wit... uhm, for him. I had a boss who was like that, aspie too. It's horrible. But then again, what's the alternative? Mindfulness? Drugs? Nobody is perfect and we're all just trying the best we can. Out of the 8 billion on this planet, he's definitely not the worst.

    • @BernhardSchwarz-xs8kp
      @BernhardSchwarz-xs8kp Месяц назад

      And who is landing one success after the other? Elon of "the other people" those who always have a better skill than their bosses - wherever they go.

    • @gramma677
      @gramma677 Месяц назад

      Wish more infants were working on rockets then. Also the idiot index is a measure of efficiency. It's like people hear the word idiot and then replace it with infantile, but don't even create a ratio. Like it's not even funny, cause it's based on massive ignorance of the premise. Like let's say the infantile index is public outbursts vs the value of the company as a ratio or something. I mean just get the premise. SMH

    • @Wild8Cat
      @Wild8Cat Месяц назад

      @@gramma677 Ok, if you don't like that term, what do you think his Algorithm Parrot Index is?

    • @gramma677
      @gramma677 Месяц назад

      @@Wild8Cat I'm fine with the term, I just have a problem with people not understanding the term. It should be called the idiot ratio perhaps and that would save a lot of head scratching. Bkaa. idiot ratio. Polly want's an idiot ratio. bkaa

  • @chrisbenn
    @chrisbenn 5 дней назад +1

    Would it have made any diffrence to Elon had Elon known about the los of the guys baby?

  • @argasyargasy2366
    @argasyargasy2366 Месяц назад +1

    You don't work for Elon to get a cushy job, you work for him to make a difference, to be a part of history.

    • @zm5668
      @zm5668 Месяц назад

      Hahahhahaha. I can't believe you think that

    • @stevenwoerpel1884
      @stevenwoerpel1884 Месяц назад

      @@zm5668 do you have an argument against? Laughing isn't an argument.

    • @user-dm2ig3mf3w
      @user-dm2ig3mf3w Месяц назад

      At least be precise in your thinking: "You work for him to make his difference, to be a part of oblivion when he's made history..."

  • @fredrik3685
    @fredrik3685 Месяц назад +4

    What happened to the 90 seconds battery swap Elon demonstrated on stage 10 years ago? It wasn't fake because Elon is a genius.

    • @helmshardover
      @helmshardover Месяц назад +2

      He's not slow to change direction when he realizes he's wrong. Many examples.

    • @donaldhobson8873
      @donaldhobson8873 Месяц назад

      @@helmshardover Not slow to change direction when enough other people realize he is wrong.

  • @user-uj9rw7un7t
    @user-uj9rw7un7t Месяц назад +10

    How can you all fall for it.?

    • @dthornto31
      @dthornto31 Месяц назад +1

      Fall for what?

    • @gettinglucky
      @gettinglucky Месяц назад +3

      I don't, I get my news from Thunderfoot

    • @gramma677
      @gramma677 Месяц назад

      @@dthornto31 It's a play on free fall? Zero G? Or is idiot? Not sure.

  • @Wary_Of_Extremes
    @Wary_Of_Extremes Месяц назад

    A place I worked, a steel agitator for a liquid waste tank.... 2' across, three simple fan blades, no moving parts...probably the same difficulty to create as a 20lb weight plate.
    Several thousand dollars.
    Yeah, it's good steel, but omg the price for a single piece of steel that was maybe 20lb.

  • @buryitdeep
    @buryitdeep 25 дней назад

    Im reminded of you need to break eggs to make an omelette.

  • @DK-ox7ze
    @DK-ox7ze Месяц назад +16

    While I admire Elon, I probably would never consider working for him if I ever got a chance.

    • @shanep.9442
      @shanep.9442 Месяц назад +4

      I don't think he'd worry about that. He only wants seriously motivated prospects, of which there are many.

    • @K1RTB
      @K1RTB Месяц назад

      @@shanep.9442 Boot licking is skill number 1 that's needed when working for elon.

    • @krox477
      @krox477 Месяц назад +2

      Yes he's not your regular boss

  • @Jaji1948
    @Jaji1948 Месяц назад +6

    Lucas's personal issues notwithstanding, Elon was asking the right questions.

  • @PassportGaming
    @PassportGaming Месяц назад

    My favorite types of videos on this channel

  • @richardtibbitts3841
    @richardtibbitts3841 6 дней назад

    A metric. An optic. A reveal. An ask...

  • @DCGreenZone
    @DCGreenZone Месяц назад +5

    The observed differences in both structural and functional neuroanatomy between ketamine users and controls may explain some of its long-term cognitive and psychiatric side effects, such as memory impairment and executive functioning. Given the effect that long-term ketamine exposure may yield, an effort should be made to curb its abuse.
    Keywords: ketamine, drug abuse, side effects, gray matter volume, white matter volume, connectivity

    • @professorg8383
      @professorg8383 Месяц назад +2

      It explains a lot!

    • @DCGreenZone
      @DCGreenZone Месяц назад +4

      @@professorg8383 Don't it though.... and he pressures others to do drugs with him. Dude is off the rails.

    • @professorg8383
      @professorg8383 Месяц назад +1

      @@DCGreenZone Yeah but he has a cult following!!

    • @DCGreenZone
      @DCGreenZone Месяц назад

      @@professorg8383 Too bad he can't be our president. 🤡

    • @professorg8383
      @professorg8383 Месяц назад

      @@DCGreenZone It's weird because he has more than a few personality traits with Trump!!
      Both guys have "cult" followings who believe their hero is infallible!! Both guys are clearly narcissistic . Strangely enough, I think that insane level of self confidence rings true to vulnerable people who admittedly call themselves fans, not realising it is short for fanatic, which means "marked by excessive enthusiasm and often intense uncritical devotion". According to a study by psychologists from Cambridge University, the more that people publicly express admiration for a public figure, the more likely it is that the fans' faith in the public figure will remain unaffected following "moral violations" or "illogical actions" by the adored person. Sometimes the illogical worship of the individual mirrors that of religious cults, the key being blind faith that denies logic.

  • @regolith1350
    @regolith1350 Месяц назад +28

    SpaceX is where you go if you want to work on things that will fundamentally alter and enable humanity’s future. It is not a place for those looking for a comfortable 9-5 job.

    • @VF31Rules
      @VF31Rules Месяц назад

      Space X is where you go if you want to blow things up that shouldn't blow up and call it a success. That POS will never get to the moon much less mars.

    • @lucristianx
      @lucristianx Месяц назад +4

      The human body and mind has limits. While physics doesn’t care about feelings. Psychology doesn’t care about your expectations.

    • @dthornto31
      @dthornto31 Месяц назад +4

      People have different levels of stress tolerance. They need a certain amount to meet peak performance but too much will cause them to crumble. If you are trying to get to Mars you want to have people who can handle and excel in high pressure. They arent exactly stacking plates at Walmart. Its billions of dollars. Grow up

    • @AndrewMellor-darkphoton
      @AndrewMellor-darkphoton Месяц назад

      starship 4 years behind schedule and has burned tax dollars for little in return. SpaceX should be bankrupt soon and a minor side note in history.

    • @mightytitan1719
      @mightytitan1719 Месяц назад

      do this and kids of those engineers will suffer , elon musk do nothing he just tweets on twitter after every 2 hours .if you don't beleive me go check yourself

  • @polgari
    @polgari 14 часов назад

    I would say Elon himself has a damn high idiot index.

  • @huverdoose
    @huverdoose Месяц назад

    Actually, getting the FAA to do anything in two years sounds pretty fast, considering it's the FAA.

  • @mewmog
    @mewmog Месяц назад +4

    What is the idiot index of starship vs a water deluge system?

    • @FrankyPi
      @FrankyPi Месяц назад

      Lol good one

  • @AL-lh2ht
    @AL-lh2ht Месяц назад +9

    Isn’t this like a basic business concept.

    • @austinzizzi1142
      @austinzizzi1142 Месяц назад +1

      You’d think but most businesses that manufacture things source their parts from third party dealers

    • @BernhardSchwarz-xs8kp
      @BernhardSchwarz-xs8kp Месяц назад +1

      Bingo - right on the nail.

    • @austinzizzi1142
      @austinzizzi1142 Месяц назад

      You’re talking about full vertical integration. That is done by almost no businesses on earth

    • @gramma677
      @gramma677 Месяц назад

      @@austinzizzi1142 Except car companies, computer companies, phone companies, fast food companies. But most mom and pop stores don't vertically integrate and in that you'r totally correct.

    • @austinzizzi1142
      @austinzizzi1142 Месяц назад

      @@gramma677 no most car companies are not fully intergraded at all. They are buy large amounts of parts from third party manufacturers. Some of their car bodies are even entirely made by third party manufacturers. This is common practice in the industry and has been moving more towards outsourcing since the 70s. It is the same way across most industries because manufacturing at scale is very difficult. If you look at the watch industry Rolex was so highly valued because it was the only company that was able to fully integrate until very recently. Before the last couple years most other watch makers were buying their entire movements from third party dealers. Tesla is becoming fully integrated to the point that it’s starting to refine its own lithium for batteries

  • @SamuelFoster666
    @SamuelFoster666 Месяц назад +1

    Ye we are supposed to stop the world working for 1 week, bcs Lucas has lost a baby =(. Forget about 2 billion poor, Forget about diseases, Forget about your futur. Stop please bcs cmon Lucas you know. It's a human being come on. We have to stop working and shit. The entier humanity for LUCAS. We stand for LUCAS. Because we were so dump to find any other creative idea to damage the reputation of the man in a millenium. So sad, man. I am crying now for LUCAS. hoooooly shit. Our precious LUCAS.

  • @TheBagOfHolding
    @TheBagOfHolding Месяц назад

    What is the cost of that block or marble? What is the cost of the finished statue? Michaelangelo was an idiot.

  • @markmarco6277
    @markmarco6277 Месяц назад +12

    The highest priority for mankind is to figure out how to remove bad leaders to stop wars and terrorism. Traveling in space and to Mars doesn't really do anything for the guy in trenches in Ukraine. We need to find a way to get along and not destroy ourselves. Traveling to Mars is just an expensive hobby.

    • @donaldhobson8873
      @donaldhobson8873 Месяц назад

      I mean by any reasonable measure, terrorism isn't one of the big killers. Disease kills far more people.
      But sure, mars is an expensive hobby.

    • @user-dm2ig3mf3w
      @user-dm2ig3mf3w Месяц назад

      Then, remove Musk first - he doesn't do a damn thing about it, if already you declare this highest priority...

    • @gramma677
      @gramma677 Месяц назад

      So what? It's their money, it's their time and money. Ironically SpaceX has done a lot for the guy in trenches in Ukraine. Starlink. Internet. For Ukraine. SpaceX rockets, make internet, for guy in trench. We know how to get along, we know how to eliminate poverty, we just have leaders with their own priorities. In the meantime, let's build rockets and go to other planets as the policitians screw everything up.

  • @martincday007
    @martincday007 Месяц назад +4

    Too many people think that the Raptor engine is a done deal when the reality is that the jury is still out as to whether the Raptor engine design is up to the task.
    The Raptor 2 is an improvement on Raptor 1 with increases in performance and thrust and a reduction in the the amount of parts which reduces the amount of time to manufacture and test. But that is for nought if the engines can't be reliably re-lit and are insufficient in lifting the required payload. Maybe a betting man might be looking for Raptor 5 before all the problems are resolved.

    • @Axel_Andersen
      @Axel_Andersen Месяц назад

      So true. Also if Elon asks about the price of steel for the engine he must be thinking that he can push the price of the engine towards the price of steel, right? So why burn fuel each way trying to bring back that engine (or 36 of them!) to be refurbished, why not just make disposable engines like the rest of the industry...

    • @niconico3907
      @niconico3907 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@Axel_Andersenbecause rocket engines cost a lot of money. It is stupid to throw away millions dollars parts after 10 minutes of use. Its like throwing away your car when the tank is empty, instead of keeping a little bit of fuel to go to the gas station.

    • @Axel_Andersen
      @Axel_Andersen Месяц назад

      @@niconico3907 You missed the point.
      IF Elon thinks that the price of the raw material (a few thousands) is significant compared to the complete engine price (millions according to you) then he must be thinking that he can push the price of the engine down close to the raw material prices. So IF he can do that or believes he can do that, THEN it would make sense for him to use disposable rockets because re-usable rockets are heavier and more expensive than re-usable and will still require refurbishment between flights (unless you buy his lies about one hour turn around).

    • @stevenwoerpel1884
      @stevenwoerpel1884 Месяц назад +1

      @@Axel_Andersen Regardless of what you say, SpaceX currently offers the cheapest rate for getting material to orbit. So the engines are cheap, and they can be reset and reused in a more cost effective way than just making disposable rockets. Proof is in the numbers

    • @Axel_Andersen
      @Axel_Andersen Месяц назад

      @@stevenwoerpel1884 So you want to change the subject and not talk about idiotic idiot index and making pumps from steel? Talking about whataboutism....
      Ok.
      Yes, I agree that SpaceX Falcon 9 seems to offer good value for money.
      I'm still a bit skeptical because it is not a public company so we do not know the real number ie are the books on red or black.
      However, trying to keep in the subject ie Elon's competence, how much of this apparent success is due to or despite of Mush?

  • @ZebraFacts
    @ZebraFacts Месяц назад

    So, what was the "Idiot Index" in Elon's reaction of the Don Lemon interview? Lemon was critical of Elon's actions, not Elon, but Elon reacted poorly. So, Lemon's involuntary resignation was accepted.

  • @cburruss9486
    @cburruss9486 Месяц назад +4

    Remember the Biosphere 2 experiment? Same thing, but tried here on Earth. Failed after 2 years. Good luck future Martians!

    • @stevenwoerpel1884
      @stevenwoerpel1884 Месяц назад

      that is a good argument to not try at all

    • @gramma677
      @gramma677 Месяц назад

      Like the ISS. lol

    • @halburd1
      @halburd1 Месяц назад

      don;t forget the 2 years they lasted was to HUGE amounts of cheating. impossible to do on mars. i doubt they lasted for more than a few months before the cheats started.

    • @domsau2
      @domsau2 8 дней назад +1

      Failed 3 times: it's a good reason to restart!

  • @caryrogers9676
    @caryrogers9676 Месяц назад +12

    Lucas was a tool... he's being paid to know his entire set of responsibilities and provide results, not just be a pass-thru that keeps the status quo going. Musk was providing him feedback and direction. It's sad that his baby died, but if you need grieving time, you should request it, then compartmentalize it and move on, returning to work when you're able to do your job without pulling out a pity party card every time you fall short of your responsibilities. Musk didn't build PayPal, SpaceX, Tesla, Boring Co, and all the other wildly successful companies under his leadership by giving participation trophies to everyone just for showing up. Big progress takes big commitment. Don't sign up for the big jobs if you are not going to commit to doing whatever it takes.

    • @Splexx
      @Splexx Месяц назад +2

      I think it's quite obvious who is the tool. LoL

    • @helmshardover
      @helmshardover Месяц назад +1

      @@Splexx Guess you're right - he's in the mirror.

    • @UseQPixinDune
      @UseQPixinDune Месяц назад +1

      He didn't 'build' any of those companies

  • @osuuma6935
    @osuuma6935 Месяц назад +2

    So I guess this explains why Full Self Driving software is so elusive for Tesla. The cost of development is hundreds of millions, yet the raw materials are just thought. Nothing physical, just thought. I guess for Tesla engineers, the idiot index is high, very high, exponentially high, asymptotically high, divide by zero high. Hey, maybe they should use that idiot index on employees. And consider this; Not everyone gets Elon's emails. I have never heard of this Idiot index and I work for the man.
    I guess art, especially live music, dance, theater, are for idiots, because the raw materials were nil, but the cost of the final product was so much. Is that such a good measure? $500 concert tickets anyone?
    What the idiot index neglects, is the effort behind the conversion of the raw materials into the final product. It took education, training, experience, and skill of each person involved, as well as ancillary non-material costs like shipping, storage, taxes, fees, and licensing to go from raw material to finished product.
    Suppose you give a hammer, nails, saw, and some wood to a master carpenter and a chimpanzee. The carpenter will construct a useful, comfortable, durable chair in short order. The Chimp would need some direction to get the first nail started and might cut themselves with the saw. The raw materials were the same. The end product was very different. The carpenter's chair is worth the fair asking price of the carpenter. The chimp has no conception of money so his pile is free. The Idiot Index for the carpenter's handy work is maybe 10 or 20. The chimp's mess has an Idiot Index of 0. Even if it was 1, which construction would perform the function of a chair? Could strict adherence to this Idiot Index be why Space X rockets blow up?
    Elon is smart, but not smart enough to realize that some things he says, some policies he adopts, are ludicruous. Sure, make that ratio, but call it a value ratio. That's more descriptive, and probably what economists call it. Adding the derogatory characterization of "idiot" is juvenile and placating to his ego of superiority.

    • @raggedclawstarcraft6562
      @raggedclawstarcraft6562 27 дней назад

      well calories that get burned in the brain is physical. But to measure this is dumb.

  • @fredrik3685
    @fredrik3685 Месяц назад +1

    What happened to the tunnel digging project that would pay for it self by selling bricks made of the dug up mud.
    It's Elons brilliant idea. He is a genius so it must be a brilliant idea....

    • @gramma677
      @gramma677 Месяц назад

      It's making money 1B a year. Just it's not a consumer good so you don't see tv ads, but it's doing fine. Google before saying random thoughts. crikey.

  • @lucky-zu4me
    @lucky-zu4me Месяц назад +4

    Where the best resources should be use ... to be on mars... or problems like poverty... one of the great resource solving a bs ...

  • @antoninsvrdlik7526
    @antoninsvrdlik7526 Месяц назад +16

    Elon scores high on his own index

    • @Thenakedfinisher
      @Thenakedfinisher Месяц назад +2

      I bet you have the highest score

    • @gramma677
      @gramma677 Месяц назад

      The idiot index is a ratio not a ranking. FOR GODS SAKE WATCH THE FIRST MINUTE OF THE VIDEO. Pleeeease, we can't be this idiotic, we can't

  • @philipthomas5079
    @philipthomas5079 Месяц назад

    In rocket science and implementation, there is NO room for error ! If Boeing really believed that adage, aircraft parts would not fall off !!

  • @feraudyh
    @feraudyh 3 дня назад

    My goodness at 8:30 we have yet more evidence the earth is not flat.

  • @sawomirlesniewski4448
    @sawomirlesniewski4448 Месяц назад +3

    Great material! Impressive management methods from inside and outside a man`s perspective; cause and effect of collaboration in time due to planned outcome 100% and human disadvantages; math and language modelling methodology... Wow! Thank you!

    • @calicoesblue4703
      @calicoesblue4703 Месяц назад

      Lmao🫵🤣🤣🤣 Elon is a Con man. And has been sued many times in court where he continues to lose because of his lies & false promises.🤷

  • @user-ff3ib5oc4s
    @user-ff3ib5oc4s Месяц назад +4

    Musk seems very committed to always top my idiot index.

    • @gramma677
      @gramma677 Месяц назад

      It's ironic you think the idiot index is a ranking system.

    • @raggedclawstarcraft6562
      @raggedclawstarcraft6562 27 дней назад

      @@gramma677 still, index gives ranking. Good job not seeing that.

  • @perkl1234
    @perkl1234 22 дня назад

    Elon wasn't mean to a random intern. The guy who he yelled at was the financial analyst in charge. If he doesn't know the cost structure then no one does and the entire thing is fucked. For a company hemorrhaging money this is very bad. The jobs of everyone at SpaceX were on the line.

  • @coffeegator6033
    @coffeegator6033 Месяц назад

    This still doesn't change the fact that humans can't take the radiation bombardment during even the fastest of conceivable methods of reaching Mars. Mars is a death sentence.

    • @stevenwoerpel1884
      @stevenwoerpel1884 Месяц назад

      you are just an armchair "this cant possibly work so why try at all" guy. I'm sure there is a team working right now at SpaceX on this problem and many others you have not though of related to survivability on the craft in space. People said rockets couldnt be landed

    • @coffeegator6033
      @coffeegator6033 Месяц назад

      @@stevenwoerpel1884 Oooo I didn't know snowflakes had such sensitive nerves. Accept reality much? Landing a rocket is not at all comparable to what I'm talking about. It's monumentally more difficult to block enough radiation for the trip to let the astronauts deal with everything else on the 90 day at best one way trip. I'm talking about a real problem they'll have to deal with and you're hurling "I'm sure they're working on it" lol ok kid. Retaliate with a poorly veiled insult that you're too afraid to admit is really something you want to say about yourself.