Lelit Elizabeth PL92T vs Sage Dual Boiler BES920 side by side comparison
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- 0:00 Coffe brewing with 5 sec preinfusion, 1:29 Hot water dispensing, 3:06 Filling with water, 3:49 Milk frothing.
SHORT COMPARISON: I own Lelit Elizabeth. Few months ago I borrowed Breville/Sage Dual Boiler for evaluation. Both machines are very nice.
Thermal stability, programmable buttons, possibility of frothing every time are main advantages of both machines.
Steaming is a bit better with Elizabeth but it is not big difference. Advantage of Elizabeth is cool touch steam wand - it's much easier to clean.
In Breville/Sage programmable buttons can be set for time or volumetric control. You can also set power of pre-infusion.
In Lelit you can only set time for doses control. Pressure of pre-infusion can be modified by changing steam boiler temperature.
Wide programmability is main advantage of Breville/Sage.
Water dispensing is much better in Lelit.
Sage have some nice "secondary" features (wheels lock, possibility of filling with water from the front etc).
You can pair Lelit with WiFi plug. It's not possible with Breville/Sage. Wifi plug allows your machine to properly heat up.
Durability, possible of using WiFi plug and excellent water dispensing system are main advantages of Lelit,
Lelit looks more reliable. It's made in Italy. Breville/Sage is made in China.
BUYING ADVICE. What I will buy now with my current knowledge? I will buy Lelit. My wife will buy Sage. But some baristas will buy new Mara-X :)
SHORT COMPARISON: forum.wszystko... (in Polish, but google translator works well)
Thank you so much for this comparison video! I was actually looking at whether to buy the BDB or the Lelit Elizabeth and so glad I came across this video. Looks like I’m going with the Lelit :)
Good choice breville is complete garbage
@@ping_me1vp actually they're not but thanks for playing
Correct me if i'm wrong, Elizabeth a little bit noisier. But again the new Elizabeth is equiped with MaraX sileny pump, so case close haha...
Correct:)
While I would have preferred the lelit. In Australia it costs 3 times the price of the Breville so that's a no brainier for me.
How much is lelit Elizabeth in aus
@@amrelnaggar269 around $2550 aud or ~1650 euros
@@GuestStarMas unfortunately as Egyptian i had to buy it from Uk costed me even more due to taxes
@@GuestStarMas in Bali 1400 Euro
If the Lelit looked like the Sage in terms of aesthetics it would be the world's best seller. Chrome box versus sexy red? Hmm...
Breville is more attractive but the Italian one seems to be more effective. What do you think?
Breville looks more attractive. Elizabeth looks more durable. Both machines perform very well.
Don’t bother with the Breville it will go wrong and you will be unable to get it repaired without paying lots of cash to a Breville/Sage authorised Coffe service company, buy a reliable machine from a reputable brand, you’ll save yourself money and hassle.
what do u think which better
Lelit is better!!
@@eng.younishameed9095 SVM seemed to convey my thoughts
Lelit will last longer no argument there, but at what cost? The cost of Lelit can easily buy 3 BES920s from where I live. Does Lelit last 3 times longer or taste 3 times better? You can do your own math.
In EU both machines are on the same price level ...
@@svm8058 In that case no comparison really. Lelit wins hands down.
Actually that’s an interesting point. I used to have an e61 VBM Heat exchanger. Cost me about the same than the Elizabeth. Overtime I was tired of paying 300 bucks for yearly service. Sold it out, bought a Breville Bambino for 300 bucks with 2 years of warranty. If it breaks every 2 years, it would be still cheaper than paying for high end italian machine service
@@alarcilam You got the wrong machine and you have to look after it, keep the cleaning advice de-scaling etc. I have a friend that has had an Elisabeth for 3 years and did not encountered any problems yet keep in mind eventually most Machines can have a problem even the expensive types.
Does Lelit allow to program the duration of double/single shots? Is it time-based or volume-based?
Lelit have 2 time programmable buttons.
It's time based, and SVM answered the other question.
The steam on lelit is way better
What about the the most improtant, taste of the espresso?
Espresso from both machines is very good and very simillar... If you can afford it, buy Lelit, it will last longer...
Hello, I have a small art workshop. I have 20 students. 20 Espresso tops off, can it? Will I have problems after a few months? Over time the machine will no longer be a problem after a few months?
It's a home machine, not a commercial machine yes it could do it but the temperature will suffer and will take some minutes to have the right brewing temperature.
Hey svm, which machine would you say has better milk frother ?
Steam from Sage (Breville) Dual Boiler is slightly better. From the other hand Elizabeth is equiped with cool touch.
Which one is better?
Both machines are very similar. I will publish short comparison on home-barista.
Always go for an italian machine if you can afford it, Espresso was born in Itality and they are still considered to be the best makers of espresso machines.
@@trentbosnic wow that argumentation is very irrationnal lol
@@PAD32 Hey unless you can afford a Synesso, you're far safer going with an Italian brand than a mass manufactured Sage.
@@user-nu8uc8wq8v Assumption where? I said Espresso comes from Italy, and they have the reputation for making the best espresso machines, with a couple minor exceptions - Sage is 100% not one of those exceptions. Buy whatever you want, but hand made Italian machines are the benchmark in the prosumer market and they will last a lifetime, which cannot be said for other machines.
Breville (china, flimsy, break at year mark) Lelit (italian, solid build, zero bad reviews, last a long time) do the math. Lelit is the clear winner.
Breville is so far ahead on features
@@SpektrikMusic How? Lelit Elizabeth has Steam boiler pre infusion and coffee blooming from the espresso boiler if you run it in eco mode. Not to mention you can program the Elizabeth to have more powerful steam by changing the service boiler temp using the PID. You can still get hot water out of the hot water tap on the Elizabeth if the steam/service boiler is turned off. The Lelit Elizabeth is also Better built with way way way better parts.
@@kennyhills8002 all those things are possible with the DB aswell, tho. Changing boiler temp is easy with the DB aswell and flow profiling is possible with the Slayer mod. And the DB excels at temperature stability due to the double pids (boiler AND group head).
I might as well argue, that if someone as Lance Hedrick can use a BDB for years, it can't be that bad.
Both machines are great. The Lelit is probably a longer lasting machine, but the DB is also very repairable and has interesting ways to mod it and grow, without having to buy a whole new machine.
The two machine are equally plasticky inside. Both are nests of plastic tubes. You can further confirm this fact by checking Elizabeth weight is only 12 kg. As budget dual-boiler machines, corners must have been cut somewhere.
I thought the Elizabeth also has dual pid, or maybe this is not the newer version?
You are comparing a star with a car
Appliance garbage vz machine
Sage oracle for me
Thats like i want to do nothing but able to drink an espresso which is close to the real thing and pay too much for it.
@@fikofikret1522 you need to try sage oracle first. There are no difference
@@Andrey051089 actually there is a huge difference, if you are able to see the differences. I dont know any barista that would advise the touch. I think the touch is for the man that does not want to put much effort in the cup. And thats ok if you are satisfied.
Where can i find parts for sage dual boiler?
Where are you from?
@@svm8058 Greece
@@billos13 Try international sellers.
If they are internal parts you won’t be able to buy them as Breville Sage won’t sell you them or let authorised service engineers sell them to you direct. Instead you’ll have to pay their service engineers to repair if the unit is out of warranty. Buy something reliable with industry standard parts that are readily available instead!
Thats why u buy the lelit, because internal parts are mostly universal