First look at Holosun P.ID lights (HC, Plus and Dual)
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- Опубликовано: 26 мар 2024
- We take a closer look at the Holosun P.ID line of weapon mounted lights. Once again Holosun managed to make a quality product for a reasonable price point. Žiga tries out all the models, from the standard PID to PID HC, PID Plus and PID Dual. In this short notice we weren't able to properly test the durability and reliability of these lights but we have found one subjective flaw that really sucks - these light use a double function switch where a short quick press will turn the light and a longer press will work as a momentary switch.
Now in theory this sounds ok but in practice during a clearing drill where you move and only try to momentary illuminate an area it quickly happens that your press of the switch is too shorts/fast and it just keeps your light on constant on. Now this is a problem because in real life situation this will give out your position and you also inadvertently blind yourself by pointing those 1000 lumens into a close cover.
No bueno
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Just FYI @polenar also this video is shadowbanned for me, I can see the community post but not the video in my subscription section.
Fucking degenerates at RUclips.
+1 I can see the community post but not the video. RUclips is doing u guys dirty Ziga
+1
amazing
i love RUclips
This is the first time that happened to me as well... I hate community posts but this time I'm lucky, or I wouldn't know about the video.
I don't have a notification either, I just saw it as recommended on my main page.
I re-clicked the all button on the last video.
Had a sweet Christmas time idea for you guys: Polenar Express
Yes, tell me more...
Polenar team has to get the kids to Santa at the North Pole... no matter what.
Lol! I dunno! Just love the content!
I'd watch the shit out of that movie. Bonus points if you cast Gun Jesus as Gun Santa.
Haha! @@dacarrico
@@dacarrico YES!!!!! Gun Santa!!!! 🙂
Great intelligent commentary on shooting in low light and light use. I often see folks go for the most powerful light and putting it on their nightstand gun. I find this to be a risk as you can end up blinding yourself in the tight confines of a house, however if you're going to be outdoors it's a different need.
Later i discovered that the dual function switch cant be changed. So i spoke with the Holosun reps on Shot Show and was amazed that they just didnt understand why the constant on clicky is bad and how it doesnt work properly when shooting.
That just shows that at least some of them dont shoot or train enough
Idk what goes down in Slovenia, but you guys are so silly and I love it.
You will love our next video then 😀
The Easter hearing protection was the highlight of the video.
😎
I did not see this video in my feed. I was just checking on the channel I also have all notifications on. Great video as always
Definitely do another video comparing some lights. All the videos comparing different models of weaponlights are from a couple years ago and there are many new models nowadays of surefire/streamlight/etc
Sure thing
Any suggestion on how to test different capabilities?
@@PolenarTactical It would be cool to see a couple scenarios that you could standardize the test around. Like a shoot house scenario similar to the one in this vid as well as night testing your ability ID at various distances. Print out photos of different guntubers or something different that actually tests your ability to see details with each light at distance. I’m sure you could find a way to make it funny while still being a legitimate comparison
Got to listen to the tactical bunny. He knows about lights for your weapon 🔫.
This is great more options. Thank you for the review. Well done
9-hole reviews had a discussion piece on weapon lights, and the pros and cons of flood vs concentration.
Aaaahhh, yesss, Daddy Slovenia with the Uwwuu earmuffs.
Btw i dont know what it is, but some of the recent videos dont show up on ny subscribed ones. I felt like rewatching the Lynx Brutality, thats when I found the new uploads. Keep em coming man. Will always look for your videos.
Much appreciated!
We'll upload the next one on April 1. - don't miss it :)
Got a P.ID on my CZ P-10F with a 508T and I love it. My go to home defense handgun. If only I had a suppressor for it😔
Good notes good observations 💯💯
Holosun killing it, as usual.
I'd definitely be more interested in the IR laser option than the visible laser. A white light and IR laser is a solid, versatile combo. If you make a follow up, I'll definitely be looking at them
Great video as always
Great comment as always!
I also didnt see the video too but then i saw the Instagram post and found it on your page.
The thing about the basic PID - it competes in price with some of the cheapest lights out there. In USA it’s just $99. Sometimes as low as $85-90. That’s cheaper than “trash” olights. That’s almost Amazon airsoft chinesium level cheap.
The HC version is often $200.
So for many folks. I def recommend the basic one. And grave 2-3 of them.
@@TheAxe4Ever note my "air quotes" around "trash". I use an Olight too. still. since this is now cheaper than many of the olights I've used... I'm considering switching to this going forward for pistol lights at least.
It's a great buy - in our testing conditions i could barely distinguish between a basic PID and HC version.
Im not a mainstream Olight hater and i have used some of their lights but they are not that cheap anymore and are lacking some of the features or capabilities of other brands.
At the moment i run a P15 light on my AR, it's made by a chinese company ACEBEAM, is reasonably priced and much more capable than anything i tried - it has 1700 lumens and a very focused tight beam.
The only downside is the stupid m-lok mount design and strange choice of cable attachment but both can be solved by using aftermarket stuff
So weird thing about the shadow ban is I don’t see the video in my subs but if I click the channel to narrow my sub tab to only show Polenar then I can see the video in my subs on mobile. I don’t follow many gun channels, just InRangeTV, 9Hole, and Forgotten Weapons, Royal Armory, PSR and this is the only channel I’ve ever noticed this happen.
If this isn’t RUclips shadowbanning on purpose then I wonder if the community post and video can’t show in the feed simultaneously. I would test this possibility. I’m leaning on shadowban but it’s odd that it’s only you guys.
Great video, basically hit all of my thoughts I already had on the light. I have one on my Springfield Echelon which I love but basically impossible to find a holster for (fingers crossed).
Try slimfit holsters. They made two for me. Shadow systems and p10 sc for my pid. Both owb
I have one on my Arex and I had 0 problems button is just a tad hard when you first get it
Thanks for the video!
You bet!
I have a PI.D on my PDP. Good so far after 1k rounds.
Haven't had any videos cross my feed in a long time. 🤔
I wonder if the light will fit a sub C battery without the sleeve. Or maybe a future planned battery like a 21350. 21350 is used in some permanent rechargeable applications so maybe they have plans for that or are leaving it open for additional models using the higher capacity
I have no idea but it seems that it could fit a bigger batter in there
I think the sleeve is so you can get a tungsten sleeve instead to add weight to the light for added weight. Less muzzle rise.
Really?
Is that a common thing to do? I heard that people installed weights instead of batteries for competitions but i never about a tungsten weight sleeve
@@PolenarTactical Yeah. For IDPA or USPCA your light has to work for it to be within regulation. Ben Stoeger sells tungsten CR123a batteries. SO I imagine with the advent of the Holosun light someone will make that. Or a guy could make a lead sleeve out of some wide lead ribbon. Give a moment, someone will come up with it.
Can you test them outside, to see how they do outdoors, or at dusk when it's not completely dark outside?
Thank you for the video! Did you find solution for the constant/momentary switch?
Ooh I'd like to see BGS lvl2 PID holster for the shadow 1. Well I actually saw a picture of a BGS glock hoster (I think) with a shadow+PID inside. Just not sure is it compatible with the hammer cocked.
Some Glock light-bearing holsters can be modified to fit Shadow 1 pistols. Although you are correct about the level 2 holsters, the hood is likely to interfere with the hammer in the cocked position. We actually had some increased interest for dedicated P.ID compatible holsters for Shadow 1 / Shadow 2 pistols and we hope to create a hybrid holster that will work with both pistols and all variations of P.ID lights.
@@BattleGnomeSolutions there seems to be a lot of interest for the PID holsters but sadly for very different handguns :D
@@PolenarTactical can't cover them all at once unfortunately 🥲
Thank you both for anwers. Have you considered an universal holster solution which would use features of the light unit to provide the locking function?
It could be made as a kit of different fittings so the end user could use adhesive to fit it together from different options making it possible for the kit to fit a myriad of pistols.
I can belive it is a mess to find a holster every gun. We all have our favorite and some even mill their optics in to make extra custom. Like me, silly me.
@@alphazuul9168 the main part of the holster's passive retention is already made by locking onto the body of the light. We try to make the best fit possible, by still accommodating as many closely related pistols / lights as possible. But this also has its limits, if the dimensions between pistols vary too much, making a universal holster would not ensure a good fit and we do not like to make such compromises. We want our users to have the best experience possible for the setup they choose to carry.
I don`t understand youtube. This video does not appear in my subscriptions (shadowban?), but youtube still recommends this for me anyway… It looks like different algorithms work against each other. So I`ll help the algorithms with this comment.
Mush appreciated!
Just commented the same. Guess I'll "engage" with this comment as well to please the algorithm gods.
Same
Does it work for holsters made for surefire x300xyz-lamps like safariland-ones?
The sleeves may be to fit unprotected batteries that have an edge in output. my Cloud Def. light is using 18650 that are like that, so other batteries may fit after removing that sleeve.
I would not use unprotected batteries, that how Olight and Streamlight apparently exploded - by using aftermarket batteries
@@PolenarTactical
I only use manufacturer recommended brands.
Holosun has continued to try to innovate. Good stuff, good prices, even If made in/from China.
will tlr1 holsters work with the P.ID ?
I love My Insight M3 and TLR1 for the switches. Not the best light at 25m but they work for My use. 🙂
5.11 double AR15 mag pouch = perfekt holster for Glock 17 and Insight / TLR1 😀 🙂
I will check HoloSun out - like to have better light at 25m 🙂
Love the headset!😂
Anyone tried if it fits to TLR1 holsters?
Very informative but,,,
I love your cat ears!
Do you have a kitty cat?
RUclips are being cunts again.
This video was extremely educational and uplifting. Oh also 16340/18350/18650 are li-on rechargeable versions of CR123A's, they are pretty much better in every aspects, a proper evolution of the CR123A.
There you go engagement algorithm.
Lol, looking forward to buying 300 new holsters to fit a light that does the same thing while costing more as others that are already duty proven 😂
I do like the idea of all lights having the same frame layout though, but doubt it will work with any holster as claimed.
If you already own a weapon lights for your handguns there's no reason to buy this. If you're just getting into the market, this is a good option as long as holsters are available to you.
Thought Ukraine finally killed the false god of duty/combat proven. All those videos from the front of guys rocking Russians with cheap optics and gear, yet muh dooty/kermbat proven line STILL comes up. Is it good to have rugged gear, absolutely. But you can get good gear solid gear for good prices too, seeing as the base PID model is 99$ which competes just under MSRP for the rest of the clown car of pistol mounted lights it’s a good buy for someone getting skin in the game.
hey Žiga… what type of fiber optic front sight is this? thank you
I think that's an old Sig P226 fibre optic sight that i had lying around, not sure which brand
The issue I have with Holosun at the moment is that their warranty support has fallen off a cliff. Back in 2018 when they were first making their name I had an issue and it was promptly dealt with.
fast forward to today, I've been waiting since October and all I've had back is two emails saying "ya we'll look at it"
That always sucks
We had 2 customers with issues and we immediately replaced the optic and sent the other one to a regional dealer for them to handle it
Not sure how it would go if we had to do it directly with Holosun
I was slightly skeptical of the HC until I had to shoot in Fog the HC could punch through it
In our conditions we barely noticed any difference but i imagine it shines i certain situations (pun intended)
I have one on my Arex Zero 2, no holsters sadly
Take a pouch for AR15 magazines. 🙂 Should work. Not the most tactical but...
No i zajebiste ❤❤❤
What pistol is that? Love the grip angle.
Arex Delta X - amazing handgun
@@PolenarTacticalThank you my friend 🇵🇭🤙🏽🇵🇭 MABUHAY
For those who don't like the fact holosuns are made in china, consider this: Streamlights are made in china.
i didn't know that 😮
they proberly writh that they dont like it - on a phone/computer made in China... 😞
what about SCRS? it's a perfect scopes
Im currently testing it
It's good but it has a noticable distortion on the edges, similar to pistol optics when you move them side by side
wondering if there is a cc holster for p10c and this
probably not
@@PolenarTactical Unfortunate :(
@@PolenarTactical TLR-1 footprint cc holsters work
Yes just use a Glock 19 pid holster they fit well not lvl 3 rention ones from my experience but just standered cc ones yee
My biggest frustration with pistol lights is that no one is making quick attach/detach versions that complete with the X300-A.
Im interested to know what kind of advantage would that have
@@PolenarTacticaljust nice if you have 1 light and multiple handguns. Especially if you have a holster that uses the light for retention like a phlster floodlight.
Have they released their rifle light yet?
Probably not - on IWA it was still a prototype
But it looked promising, very focused beam with 80k candela, if i remember correctly
@@PolenarTactical hopefully that won't take long to get into production. I see a huge gap in the market for reasonably priced rifle lights that perform well. I really hope they come out with a smaller rifle light like the Surefire m340. There are currently no options under $300 other than maybe a streamlight that is itself outdated.
Honestly the whole weapon light market is crazy with their prices. It's not that difficult to manufacture flashlights that are durable and bright. I can't believe nobody has filled this gap.
Okay but what about it against an Olight Ultra Light II x3 4K ?
I have never tried it
@@PolenarTactical sorry if it was unclear, it's a meme on gun memes communities to read/write "what do you think of this Olight (*weird dumb random name*) on my gun, guys?" 😅
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@@Vin_San i not on the mainstream hate of Olight, i have tried some of their lights and are quite decent. But they are not that cheap anymore - for a bit more you can get better lights.
Or you can get other Chinese brands for cheaper and also more capable than Olight
What model arex is that? The L or M?
Delta X
is it better than TLR1- HL?
It's more capable - better illumination but for me personally, the double function switch is really annoying
I didn't get the release notice. Had to see this from your German 9mm pistol abuse.
New player on the field is always a good thing, but that thing is HUGE! Like, larger than the original Surefire pistol light, with an incandescent emitter! I think all of the Chinese sourced lights are using the same control boards which means they all have the same on/off functionality. Olights also do this as well as various "other" brands that are Chinese made. I prefer a "wall of light" over a spotlight that reinforces tunnel vision. Were you missing the back targets because you didn't look, or because the light didn't illuminate it enough to register in your brain? To me a brighter wall of light is better. 1200 to 2000 lumens output makes more sense. My Baldr S is still 800 lumens and I like it's cone of light over some others. I'm not an LEO or an Operator so maybe I just don't need any of this...but my Olights also didn't cost 300-400 dollars each. Yes, I have more than one. I like having options.
"Wall of light" is a nothing burger unless someone can define what enables it. What I do know is that high candela lights have a more dramatic effect on the viewer - they are a lot more painful to look at. Generally people prefer this over just obscuring yourself because it can lead to target compliance.
Another one mysteriously absent from my subscription feed. :/
Whats the pistol name
Arex Delta X
Open field!!! That’ll show all the weakness and strengths!! Lol
My guys looks like the Slovenian Gerand Thumb lol
Nah bro its protects the battery from the cold👌
I don't like the magnetic charger. I have gas a bad experience with those.
Slovakian Garand Thumb isnt real. He cant hurt you.
Feed the algorithm people.
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Mr Polenar that's a procedural error. +3 seconds
Brick/Glock same difference.
I still prefer a flashlight in my hand.
this light also causes pelvic inflammatory disease
This video also did not show up in my subscriptions
Unsubbed, resubbed, refreshed, still not there.
I hate those controls. I have them on my TLR7 for my G43X and I hate it. It should be programmable for momentary only or if it can’t be programmable, then make it only momentary without constant on. I’m never buying another light with those controls.
I feel like only people that dont actualy use or train are ok with those controls.
Or maybe their idea of using the light is turning it on for the whole duration of shooting... 🤔
Only could find Manca's body armor? 😂
This video is also shadow banned for me
Another shadow banned video, damn
Banned from yt app
interested but i just wish they didnt look so goofy
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PID….urinalysis 🤔😂
caca video🎉
Why don't they just change the name of the site. It hasn't been "RUclips" for years. Just call it GoogleTube, say that you are a publisher
and not a platform anymore, and stop lying to us.
I’d never buy a light that adds length to my gun
They are releasing a K version that is super short
Personally i prefer a longer light because i shoot a lot and if the light doesnt extend past the muzzle, the lens get so dirty that it barelly works anymore
If it extends beyond the muzzle, carbon buildup on the lens isn't really a problem and the likelihood of your gun being pressed out of battery if your attacker ends up on top of you is just about zero.
Rechargeable battery.. no thank you
Removable, replaceable batteries are great. Mostly because they have a higher voltage, and that means more output
I'm hoping these end up doing what olight failed to do.
Make a reliable chargeable pistol light
That's stupid, just buy an O-Light.
I have this light on my echelon. I can’t find a holster anywhere 🥲
Hmm, i guess echelon doesnt fit into Glock holsters?
@@PolenarTactical Unfortunately not. Trex arms made a video complaining about that and people were giving him shit in the comments for it but in my experience it’s a genuine problem. I have a local gun shop that will make a holster for me but that’s my only option.