@@theurbangentry Thank you Tristano, your enthusiast eye is definitely felt in this amazing time piece and your channel has been an inspiration to so many within the community, cheers 🥂
I already love this watch, but I do have a wish list for it if Hanhart decides to make improvements: 1) quick, tool-less micro adjustment on the clasp 2) a SW300 with an upgraded 56 hour PR option 3) better tolerances between the lugs/case and solid end links 4) decoupling crown (more of a want than a need). It would be perfect with these improvements and yes, I'm willing to pay more! I already posted these on the official Hanhart YT account and they seem to be open to suggestions. I told them it would be nice to have options similar to what Laco does with the Flieger Pro.
Thanks for this, I have been awaiting a true breakdown of this watch since its launch. It was my grail watch before watching this video. Now I am even more certain!
I used to wear a Sinn 556i as a Service/Duty watch. I ditched it for a Seiko SPB143 aka 62MAS reissue as the Sinn lacked a good and consistend lume during Night shifts. No other watch ever fitted my wrist as good as the 556 though… so now that the Hanhart is around with pretty much the same dimensions, great lume, great readability, the history, the quality and that hardened steel (boy I was always dreaming about a Sinn 556 with tegiment treatment)… fast forward: I received it yesterday and ist perfect!I LOVE IT ❤
@@chosearmandoarmando3864 it’s near perfection in that genre of do it all watch. I’ve worn the Hanhart now for a couple of days now and it matches the wearability. It’s unbelievably accurate as well. Their regulation takes 7 days at the factory and it shows. I’m not kidding: it’s running on less than +\-1s a day. It blows my mind. The Sinn has the same movement and mine was at around +/- 5s a day. Both great watches but now that I got the Hanhart I ain’t missing that Sinn no more 😍
@@The3osforos the Hanhart punches way above its weight. A couple of weeks ago I had the opportunity to try on a Tudor Ranger. It’s on par with that. The bracelet and clasp on the Ranger are more refined but that’s about it. If you d wipe the Hanhart and Tudor insignia off of both watches and had to tell the price you’d rate them pretty much the same. I think Hanhart is “under-pricing” the Preventor HD12 on purpose as they are kind of new to the 3-handed field watch game. Also I think they wanna “field test” the HD12 hardening and get as much revenue and consumer feedback as possible. The SPB143 is still close to my heart. I think a great vintage diver with heritage is a must have. Though mine is horrible on accuracy at -20s a day…. The Hanhart on the other hand: its accuracy blew my mind during the first days. It runs at under (!!!) +/- 2 seconds a day!!! I would even say it s closer to the 1s mark. I highly recommend watching TGVs/Urban Gentry video on it. You ll see why it is that way. They are regulating every watch for 7 days at the factory before delivery. That’s insane and it shows. So far the only thing I’m missing is the bracelet…. No idea when they’ll be available again … thought about putting it on a NATO or my Uncle Seiko Tropic strap in the meantime.
An "Explorer"-style watch that isn't a scratch magnet makes so much sense for a GADA watch. Combines all the style elements that will make this an instant classic
I can only speak from my own personal experience but lume for a modern cockpit watch is absolutely important. We do a lot of flying now on goggles and they don’t allow your eyes to dark adapt. For me lume was more important flying than it was scuba diving.
I own this watch and am wearing it now. The Hanhart is a better watch in features, fit and finish, than the Murph. If you get the bund strap, Hanhart makes a 18mm deployment clasp for the Pioneer and it is a better option than the pin and buckle.
From what I can tell (having not actually owned either watch) the Hanhart is better in that it has a screw down crown, better WR, seems to have better AR coating, better lume and the case is thinner and anti-scratch. The movements of both watches are practically identical however the Murph has a greater power reserve of 80 hours vs the Hanhart's 38 hours.
The Hamilton Murph is manufactured in China and assembled in Switzerland. The Hanhart is manufactured in Germany and assembled in Germany. The Hanhart is therefore the better value for money.
@@aphex_303 hanhart has loomed second hand too. I imagine if you heavily favour white or fauxtina you would favour one or the other. The hanhart is generally better specced tho. Also the 80 hour power reserve comes at the cost of decreased beat rate
A nice watch, but I don't know if it beats my Nivada-Grenchen Super Antarctic? Very similar specs, but the Super Antarctic has applied indices compared to the painted dial. The lume looks to be better, and the case hardening is significant. But, as a GADA I think the Nivada-Grenchen gets the nod. As a strictly practical tool? Maybe the Hanhart takes the cheese! Both are better than the Hamilton.
I own 3 variations of the Super Antarctic and I love them all, I will say that the build quality here is a touch more solid but like you said, there are tradeoffs between the two lines.
I really want a non-vintaged black dial N-G Super Antarctic 3/6/9, but now I am VERY blown away by how effin' gorgeous this Hanhart Preventor HD12 is! Looks like I'll be putting off my getting a SA 3/6/9 some more.... 😅😂😅
nice watch, nice review,, (one more watch with an SW200 movement, that is of course the twin brother of ETA-2824. ETA-2824 is a very popular movement.)
@@a_commisso77 they wear pretty close to each other, I'll eventually do a full comparison but did a strap review where I had them side-by-side if you want to check that out
It’s almost perfect. All it’s missing for me to stop cross shopping it is an OTF clasp. Fortunately, I’ve paused my watch buying until my wife graduates from college so hopefully they’ll update that by the time I’m actually looking to buy
How would you compare this to your Laco Flieger )sic) Pro’s? Fit & finish and how you think the 40mm Laco feels/looks on your wrist vs 39mm Hanhart, also which dial has more sunray finish? Thanks so much for your input, he says hopefully.
My favorite 2024 is the Prospex Limited Edition 1965 Recreation European Exclusive in Gradation Island Blue. The dial is stunning and the contrast when on a white strap is to die for. I will get my hands on one from AMZWATCH
Funnily enough, MAMACOO's replicas are perfect for people who can actually afford a luxury watch. Because in those social circles, it wouldn't matter and everybody would just assume it's real. You have a yacht and a beach house in Tuscany, of course that replica is real. There isn't a millionaire out there going around with a jeweller's loupe to scrutinize their acquaintance's watch. They'll just go "Oh is that a Patek? Nice, I should really get my hands on one of those, they look great."
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Hands down the best and most accurate review so far!
Thank you so much for this, keep up the great work.
Best regards,
TGV
Currently saving for a black dial Preventor HD12 right now! It's honestly SO Beautiful. ❤
@@theurbangentry Thank you Tristano, your enthusiast eye is definitely felt in this amazing time piece and your channel has been an inspiration to so many within the community, cheers 🥂
this video really sold me on the hanhart versus the murph 38mm
I already love this watch, but I do have a wish list for it if Hanhart decides to make improvements: 1) quick, tool-less micro adjustment on the clasp 2) a SW300 with an upgraded 56 hour PR option 3) better tolerances between the lugs/case and solid end links 4) decoupling crown (more of a want than a need). It would be perfect with these improvements and yes, I'm willing to pay more!
I already posted these on the official Hanhart YT account and they seem to be open to suggestions. I told them it would be nice to have options similar to what Laco does with the Flieger Pro.
Thanks for this, I have been awaiting a true breakdown of this watch since its launch. It was my grail watch before watching this video. Now I am even more certain!
I got the blue dial Preventor HD12 last week. Love it .
I used to wear a Sinn 556i as a Service/Duty watch. I ditched it for a Seiko SPB143 aka 62MAS reissue as the Sinn lacked a good and consistend lume during Night shifts. No other watch ever fitted my wrist as good as the 556 though… so now that the Hanhart is around with pretty much the same dimensions, great lume, great readability, the history, the quality and that hardened steel (boy I was always dreaming about a Sinn 556 with tegiment treatment)… fast forward: I received it yesterday and ist perfect!I LOVE IT ❤
I bought the 556 at the start of this year, and I must say the wearbility is superb.
@@chosearmandoarmando3864 it’s near perfection in that genre of do it all watch. I’ve worn the Hanhart now for a couple of days now and it matches the wearability. It’s unbelievably accurate as well. Their regulation takes 7 days at the factory and it shows. I’m not kidding: it’s running on less than +\-1s a day. It blows my mind. The Sinn has the same movement and mine was at around +/- 5s a day.
Both great watches but now that I got the Hanhart I ain’t missing that Sinn no more 😍
I have an spb143 too and i just found myself drooling over this hanhart. How do they conpare quality wise?
@@The3osforos the Hanhart punches way above its weight. A couple of weeks ago I had the opportunity to try on a Tudor Ranger. It’s on par with that. The bracelet and clasp on the Ranger are more refined but that’s about it. If you d wipe the Hanhart and Tudor insignia off of both watches and had to tell the price you’d rate them pretty much the same. I think Hanhart is “under-pricing” the Preventor HD12 on purpose as they are kind of new to the 3-handed field watch game. Also I think they wanna “field test” the HD12 hardening and get as much revenue and consumer feedback as possible.
The SPB143 is still close to my heart. I think a great vintage diver with heritage is a must have. Though mine is horrible on accuracy at -20s a day…. The Hanhart on the other hand: its accuracy blew my mind during the first days. It runs at under (!!!) +/- 2 seconds a day!!! I would even say it s closer to the 1s mark. I highly recommend watching TGVs/Urban Gentry video on it. You ll see why it is that way. They are regulating every watch for 7 days at the factory before delivery. That’s insane and it shows. So far the only thing I’m missing is the bracelet…. No idea when they’ll be available again … thought about putting it on a NATO or my Uncle Seiko Tropic strap in the meantime.
An "Explorer"-style watch that isn't a scratch magnet makes so much sense for a GADA watch. Combines all the style elements that will make this an instant classic
I can only speak from my own personal experience but lume for a modern cockpit watch is absolutely important. We do a lot of flying now on goggles and they don’t allow your eyes to dark adapt. For me lume was more important flying than it was scuba diving.
@@C.C._TJ_Jason thanks for the insight!
Kein Pilot benötigt noch eine Armbanduhr 😅
I own this watch and am wearing it now. The Hanhart is a better watch in features, fit and finish, than the Murph. If you get the bund strap, Hanhart makes a 18mm deployment clasp for the Pioneer and it is a better option than the pin and buckle.
How does it wear compared to the Murph? Is it closer to 38mm or 40mm? Thank you!
@@a_commisso77 Closer to a 38mm. Bezel and case shape make it look/feel smaller.
Thanks for the review. It’s a great looking watch.
I like this mainly because it doesn’t have date. Superb looking watch.
I got my blue dial on a strap. It’s worth mentioning that the bund pad is removable if it’s not your style.
Great review thank you
How do your Traska Summiteers compare to the Hanhart? Seems to fit a similar bill with the hardened coating and dimensions
I think this is my next watch, the blue dial.
Is it better than the Hamilton Murph 38mm
From what I can tell (having not actually owned either watch) the Hanhart is better in that it has a screw down crown, better WR, seems to have better AR coating, better lume and the case is thinner and anti-scratch. The movements of both watches are practically identical however the Murph has a greater power reserve of 80 hours vs the Hanhart's 38 hours.
The Hamilton Murph is manufactured in China and assembled in Switzerland. The Hanhart is manufactured in Germany and assembled in Germany. The Hanhart is therefore the better value for money.
Yes, but one has to factor in what features, one actually needs for the price difference.
@@aphex_303 hanhart has loomed second hand too. I imagine if you heavily favour white or fauxtina you would favour one or the other. The hanhart is generally better specced tho. Also the 80 hour power reserve comes at the cost of decreased beat rate
@@kresimirpleic
Hard to argue with that
A nice watch, but I don't know if it beats my Nivada-Grenchen Super Antarctic?
Very similar specs, but the Super Antarctic has applied indices compared to the painted dial.
The lume looks to be better, and the case hardening is significant.
But, as a GADA I think the Nivada-Grenchen gets the nod.
As a strictly practical tool? Maybe the Hanhart takes the cheese!
Both are better than the Hamilton.
I own 3 variations of the Super Antarctic and I love them all, I will say that the build quality here is a touch more solid but like you said, there are tradeoffs between the two lines.
I really want a non-vintaged black dial N-G Super Antarctic 3/6/9, but now I am VERY blown away by how effin' gorgeous this Hanhart Preventor HD12 is! Looks like I'll be putting off my getting a SA 3/6/9 some more.... 😅😂😅
nice watch, nice review,, (one more watch with an SW200 movement, that is of course the twin brother of ETA-2824. ETA-2824 is a very popular movement.)
hanhart was first 1938. cheers.
How does this watch wear compared to the Murph 38? I have a smaller wrist and I’m not sure if this watch will fit me due to the lug to lug.
@@a_commisso77 they wear pretty close to each other, I'll eventually do a full comparison but did a strap review where I had them side-by-side if you want to check that out
I believe the Hanhart has the same lug to lug size as the murph.
@@AverageBros awesome thank you!
It’s almost perfect. All it’s missing for me to stop cross shopping it is an OTF clasp. Fortunately, I’ve paused my watch buying until my wife graduates from college so hopefully they’ll update that by the time I’m actually looking to buy
@@mariog7213 not a deal breaker for me but it would be a nice addition for sure
How would you compare this to your Laco Flieger )sic) Pro’s? Fit & finish and how you think the 40mm Laco feels/looks on your wrist vs 39mm Hanhart, also which dial has more sunray finish? Thanks so much for your input, he says hopefully.
Compares well, a bit more overbuilt feeling with more heft, but not necessarily more refinement, maybe a bit more versatile though
As for the Sunray, this has a plain matte dial with no sunray texture, neither does the black dial Flieger Pro, only the Blue dial one.
@@AverageBros it is the blue dial I’m interested in. Thanks very much for answering my questions!
MAMACOO！Every time you exhibit one of these watches I become super tempted to get one.
Beats the Hamilton hands down. Put my deposit on it a month ago...
My favorite 2024 is the Prospex Limited Edition 1965 Recreation European Exclusive in Gradation Island Blue. The dial is stunning and the contrast when on a white strap is to die for. I will get my hands on one from AMZWATCH
hey, do you stream games on another channel?
@@russparkin6722 no, I don't but now am super curious as to who sounds like me 😂
@@AverageBros haha its a cod player called Phixate
Wish the numerals weren't so bold and fat
I have to say that MAMACOO 's watches are amazing!
Funnily enough, MAMACOO's replicas are perfect for people who can actually afford a luxury watch. Because in those social circles, it wouldn't matter and everybody would just assume it's real. You have a yacht and a beach house in Tuscany, of course that replica is real. There isn't a millionaire out there going around with a jeweller's loupe to scrutinize their acquaintance's watch. They'll just go "Oh is that a Patek? Nice, I should really get my hands on one of those, they look great."