@@theurbangentry Thank you Tristano, your enthusiast eye is definitely felt in this amazing time piece and your channel has been an inspiration to so many within the community, cheers 🥂
I used to wear a Sinn 556i as a Service/Duty watch. I ditched it for a Seiko SPB143 aka 62MAS reissue as the Sinn lacked a good and consistend lume during Night shifts. No other watch ever fitted my wrist as good as the 556 though… so now that the Hanhart is around with pretty much the same dimensions, great lume, great readability, the history, the quality and that hardened steel (boy I was always dreaming about a Sinn 556 with tegiment treatment)… fast forward: I received it yesterday and ist perfect!I LOVE IT ❤
@@chosearmandoarmando3864 it’s near perfection in that genre of do it all watch. I’ve worn the Hanhart now for a couple of days now and it matches the wearability. It’s unbelievably accurate as well. Their regulation takes 7 days at the factory and it shows. I’m not kidding: it’s running on less than +\-1s a day. It blows my mind. The Sinn has the same movement and mine was at around +/- 5s a day. Both great watches but now that I got the Hanhart I ain’t missing that Sinn no more 😍
@@The3osforos the Hanhart punches way above its weight. A couple of weeks ago I had the opportunity to try on a Tudor Ranger. It’s on par with that. The bracelet and clasp on the Ranger are more refined but that’s about it. If you d wipe the Hanhart and Tudor insignia off of both watches and had to tell the price you’d rate them pretty much the same. I think Hanhart is “under-pricing” the Preventor HD12 on purpose as they are kind of new to the 3-handed field watch game. Also I think they wanna “field test” the HD12 hardening and get as much revenue and consumer feedback as possible. The SPB143 is still close to my heart. I think a great vintage diver with heritage is a must have. Though mine is horrible on accuracy at -20s a day…. The Hanhart on the other hand: its accuracy blew my mind during the first days. It runs at under (!!!) +/- 2 seconds a day!!! I would even say it s closer to the 1s mark. I highly recommend watching TGVs/Urban Gentry video on it. You ll see why it is that way. They are regulating every watch for 7 days at the factory before delivery. That’s insane and it shows. So far the only thing I’m missing is the bracelet…. No idea when they’ll be available again … thought about putting it on a NATO or my Uncle Seiko Tropic strap in the meantime.
Thanks for this, I have been awaiting a true breakdown of this watch since its launch. It was my grail watch before watching this video. Now I am even more certain!
I can only speak from my own personal experience but lume for a modern cockpit watch is absolutely important. We do a lot of flying now on goggles and they don’t allow your eyes to dark adapt. For me lume was more important flying than it was scuba diving.
An "Explorer"-style watch that isn't a scratch magnet makes so much sense for a GADA watch. Combines all the style elements that will make this an instant classic
I already love this watch, but I do have a wish list for it if Hanhart decides to make improvements: 1) quick, tool-less micro adjustment on the clasp 2) a SW300 with an upgraded 56 hour PR option 3) better tolerances between the lugs/case and solid end links 4) decoupling crown (more of a want than a need). It would be perfect with these improvements and yes, I'm willing to pay more! I already posted these on the official Hanhart YT account and they seem to be open to suggestions. I told them it would be nice to have options similar to what Laco does with the Flieger Pro.
@@Sumerdini the Hanhart puts the Murph in its backpocket in every aspect… except power reserve… which to be fair doesent even matter in any watch if you are wearing it daily anyway. I received my Hanhart last week and it’s amazing! It runs at about +\- 1s a day! It’s insane. The 7 day process of regulating their watches at Hanhart goes far beyond Hamilton. Hamilton btw -like most other mass market swatch offerings- is more or less Made in China and assembled in Switzerland … to the lowest most cost effective factor possible. Not bashing on Hamilton/Swatch Group. I personally own a Tissot PRS and a Hamilton Khaki Field Mechanical. Love em both…. but the Hanhart is on another level. It punches WAY ABOVE its weight. I wear it everyday as my service/duty watch putting it through its paces the way it is intended to be. Let’s say I’m wearing it in a “G Shock environment”… it’s just fantastic and fully made by a handful of passionate watch nerds in Gütenbach/Germany. Btw: It replaces my Sinn 556i and that’s sayin sth on its own already. What I also don’t like about the Murph: The fact that Hamilton actually took the dial design from the war years Hanharts. It’s a great hommage… but why get sth that’s inferior in every way whilst also being a “copy” of someone else’s trademark dial design? Just my humble opinion as an owner of products of both brands. So no offense 🫶🏼🙂
Great video. These are amazing watches, and I love the brand/history, already being an owner of a 417 chrono. I think another really good Hamilton comparison is the Khaki Field Expedition. I own a black one on bracelet and really like it- it has the same all brushed vibe, super legible white arabics, same price point. If I were to go for one of these I'd move on from the Hamilton, because they would be redundant in my collection. These Hanharts do have a better spec sheet for sure- hmmm....
I own this watch and am wearing it now. The Hanhart is a better watch in features, fit and finish, than the Murph. If you get the bund strap, Hanhart makes a 18mm deployment clasp for the Pioneer and it is a better option than the pin and buckle.
@@alexanderbelov1721 Only if you were waiting to make the decision. If you’re in the US you will have to put a deposit down with Watchbuy and wait a few months or go onto the secondary market and pay the current market price. Then there is always ‘second best’ and it’s availability.
Hi there. Do you know why it's named "preventor"? Is that related to the anti scratching hardened steel?...or does the name refer to something else? Thank you
nice watch, nice review,, (one more watch with an SW200 movement, that is of course the twin brother of ETA-2824. ETA-2824 is a very popular movement.)
A nice watch, but I don't know if it beats my Nivada-Grenchen Super Antarctic? Very similar specs, but the Super Antarctic has applied indices compared to the painted dial. The lume looks to be better, and the case hardening is significant. But, as a GADA I think the Nivada-Grenchen gets the nod. As a strictly practical tool? Maybe the Hanhart takes the cheese! Both are better than the Hamilton.
I own 3 variations of the Super Antarctic and I love them all, I will say that the build quality here is a touch more solid but like you said, there are tradeoffs between the two lines.
I really want a non-vintaged black dial N-G Super Antarctic 3/6/9, but now I am VERY blown away by how effin' gorgeous this Hanhart Preventor HD12 is! Looks like I'll be putting off my getting a SA 3/6/9 some more.... 😅😂😅
The Hamilton Murph is manufactured in China and assembled in Switzerland. The Hanhart is manufactured in Germany and assembled in Germany. The Hanhart is therefore the better value for money.
@@aphex_303 hanhart has loomed second hand too. I imagine if you heavily favour white or fauxtina you would favour one or the other. The hanhart is generally better specced tho. Also the 80 hour power reserve comes at the cost of decreased beat rate
How would you compare this to your Laco Flieger )sic) Pro’s? Fit & finish and how you think the 40mm Laco feels/looks on your wrist vs 39mm Hanhart, also which dial has more sunray finish? Thanks so much for your input, he says hopefully.
@@a_commisso77 they wear pretty close to each other, I'll eventually do a full comparison but did a strap review where I had them side-by-side if you want to check that out
It’s almost perfect. All it’s missing for me to stop cross shopping it is an OTF clasp. Fortunately, I’ve paused my watch buying until my wife graduates from college so hopefully they’ll update that by the time I’m actually looking to buy
My favorite 2024 is the Prospex Limited Edition 1965 Recreation European Exclusive in Gradation Island Blue. The dial is stunning and the contrast when on a white strap is to die for. I will get my hands on one from AMZWATCH
MAMACOO is one of my favorite watch manufacturers they do offer beautifull dials, good workmanship & moovements.That smooth sweeping second hand is truly mesmerizing！
Completely off topic but your hand looks like you’re retaining a lot of fluid, you have almost no visible knuckles, maybe you’re eating way too much salt, maybe a kidney issue but definitely talk to your doctor next time:)
Nice to see MAMACOO show a watch that can be afforded by almost anyone rather than these pieces costing thousands and thousands which are out of reach for so many.
I have a real SUB but I also bought one of these replicas from MAMACOO for piece of mind if I go to another country or if I am doing activities that can damage the watch. I don't see anything wrong with that.
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Hands down the best and most accurate review so far!
Thank you so much for this, keep up the great work.
Best regards,
TGV
Currently saving for a black dial Preventor HD12 right now! It's honestly SO Beautiful. ❤
@@theurbangentry Thank you Tristano, your enthusiast eye is definitely felt in this amazing time piece and your channel has been an inspiration to so many within the community, cheers 🥂
I got the blue dial Preventor HD12 last week. Love it .
I used to wear a Sinn 556i as a Service/Duty watch. I ditched it for a Seiko SPB143 aka 62MAS reissue as the Sinn lacked a good and consistend lume during Night shifts. No other watch ever fitted my wrist as good as the 556 though… so now that the Hanhart is around with pretty much the same dimensions, great lume, great readability, the history, the quality and that hardened steel (boy I was always dreaming about a Sinn 556 with tegiment treatment)… fast forward: I received it yesterday and ist perfect!I LOVE IT ❤
I bought the 556 at the start of this year, and I must say the wearbility is superb.
@@chosearmandoarmando3864 it’s near perfection in that genre of do it all watch. I’ve worn the Hanhart now for a couple of days now and it matches the wearability. It’s unbelievably accurate as well. Their regulation takes 7 days at the factory and it shows. I’m not kidding: it’s running on less than +\-1s a day. It blows my mind. The Sinn has the same movement and mine was at around +/- 5s a day.
Both great watches but now that I got the Hanhart I ain’t missing that Sinn no more 😍
I have an spb143 too and i just found myself drooling over this hanhart. How do they conpare quality wise?
@@The3osforos the Hanhart punches way above its weight. A couple of weeks ago I had the opportunity to try on a Tudor Ranger. It’s on par with that. The bracelet and clasp on the Ranger are more refined but that’s about it. If you d wipe the Hanhart and Tudor insignia off of both watches and had to tell the price you’d rate them pretty much the same. I think Hanhart is “under-pricing” the Preventor HD12 on purpose as they are kind of new to the 3-handed field watch game. Also I think they wanna “field test” the HD12 hardening and get as much revenue and consumer feedback as possible.
The SPB143 is still close to my heart. I think a great vintage diver with heritage is a must have. Though mine is horrible on accuracy at -20s a day…. The Hanhart on the other hand: its accuracy blew my mind during the first days. It runs at under (!!!) +/- 2 seconds a day!!! I would even say it s closer to the 1s mark. I highly recommend watching TGVs/Urban Gentry video on it. You ll see why it is that way. They are regulating every watch for 7 days at the factory before delivery. That’s insane and it shows. So far the only thing I’m missing is the bracelet…. No idea when they’ll be available again … thought about putting it on a NATO or my Uncle Seiko Tropic strap in the meantime.
I tried both of these watches the other day.. the Preventor was too heavy for me
Thanks for this, I have been awaiting a true breakdown of this watch since its launch. It was my grail watch before watching this video. Now I am even more certain!
I can only speak from my own personal experience but lume for a modern cockpit watch is absolutely important. We do a lot of flying now on goggles and they don’t allow your eyes to dark adapt. For me lume was more important flying than it was scuba diving.
@@C.C._TJ_Jason thanks for the insight!
Kein Pilot benötigt noch eine Armbanduhr 😅
An "Explorer"-style watch that isn't a scratch magnet makes so much sense for a GADA watch. Combines all the style elements that will make this an instant classic
I already love this watch, but I do have a wish list for it if Hanhart decides to make improvements: 1) quick, tool-less micro adjustment on the clasp 2) a SW300 with an upgraded 56 hour PR option 3) better tolerances between the lugs/case and solid end links 4) decoupling crown (more of a want than a need). It would be perfect with these improvements and yes, I'm willing to pay more!
I already posted these on the official Hanhart YT account and they seem to be open to suggestions. I told them it would be nice to have options similar to what Laco does with the Flieger Pro.
Does it not have solid end links?
@zaxlash I think it does. Having better tolerances between the end links and the lugs will give the watch a more premium look.
this video really sold me on the hanhart versus the murph 38mm
The Hanhart is a far far better looking watch compared to the murph. So much more sharper looking.
Sure, Hanhart case is better than murph but movement... Hamilton H-10 is simply excellent...
@@Sumerdini isn't the eta 2824-2 similar to sw200
@@Sumerdini the Hanhart puts the Murph in its backpocket in every aspect… except power reserve… which to be fair doesent even matter in any watch if you are wearing it daily anyway. I received my Hanhart last week and it’s amazing! It runs at about +\- 1s a day! It’s insane. The 7 day process of regulating their watches at Hanhart goes far beyond Hamilton. Hamilton btw -like most other mass market swatch offerings- is more or less Made in China and assembled in Switzerland … to the lowest most cost effective factor possible. Not bashing on Hamilton/Swatch Group. I personally own a Tissot PRS and a Hamilton Khaki Field Mechanical. Love em both…. but the Hanhart is on another level. It punches WAY ABOVE its weight. I wear it everyday as my service/duty watch putting it through its paces the way it is intended to be. Let’s say I’m wearing it in a “G Shock environment”… it’s just fantastic and fully made by a handful of passionate watch nerds in Gütenbach/Germany. Btw: It replaces my Sinn 556i and that’s sayin sth on its own already. What I also don’t like about the Murph: The fact that Hamilton actually took the dial design from the war years Hanharts. It’s a great hommage… but why get sth that’s inferior in every way whilst also being a “copy” of someone else’s trademark dial design?
Just my humble opinion as an owner of products of both brands. So no offense 🫶🏼🙂
I got my blue dial on a strap. It’s worth mentioning that the bund pad is removable if it’s not your style.
Great video. These are amazing watches, and I love the brand/history, already being an owner of a 417 chrono. I think another really good Hamilton comparison is the Khaki Field Expedition. I own a black one on bracelet and really like it- it has the same all brushed vibe, super legible white arabics, same price point. If I were to go for one of these I'd move on from the Hamilton, because they would be redundant in my collection. These Hanharts do have a better spec sheet for sure- hmmm....
I really want the 417 chrono. Any complaints about it?
I own this watch and am wearing it now. The Hanhart is a better watch in features, fit and finish, than the Murph. If you get the bund strap, Hanhart makes a 18mm deployment clasp for the Pioneer and it is a better option than the pin and buckle.
How does it wear compared to the Murph? Is it closer to 38mm or 40mm? Thank you!
@@a_commisso77 Closer to a 38mm. Bezel and case shape make it look/feel smaller.
One small thing spoils the whole picture - Murph is available, Hanhart...also available. To see a movie about.
@@alexanderbelov1721 Only if you were waiting to make the decision. If you’re in the US you will have to put a deposit down with Watchbuy and wait a few months or go onto the secondary market and pay the current market price. Then there is always ‘second best’ and it’s availability.
Absolutly beautiful watch 😍
Thanks for the review. It’s a great looking watch.
Beautiful watch. Great review 👍
Thank you for that!
Man, i really want to buy this watch now. Minty.
The caseback & screw down crown logo is a very nice touch 👍
I like this mainly because it doesn’t have date. Superb looking watch.
Perfect. Sold my Hamilton field watch because of the annoying glare.
Hoping for a white version in the near future!
Great review thank you
I think this is my next watch, the blue dial.
How do your Traska Summiteers compare to the Hanhart? Seems to fit a similar bill with the hardened coating and dimensions
Hi there. Do you know why it's named "preventor"? Is that related to the anti scratching hardened steel?...or does the name refer to something else? Thank you
nice watch, nice review,, (one more watch with an SW200 movement, that is of course the twin brother of ETA-2824. ETA-2824 is a very popular movement.)
A nice watch, but I don't know if it beats my Nivada-Grenchen Super Antarctic?
Very similar specs, but the Super Antarctic has applied indices compared to the painted dial.
The lume looks to be better, and the case hardening is significant.
But, as a GADA I think the Nivada-Grenchen gets the nod.
As a strictly practical tool? Maybe the Hanhart takes the cheese!
Both are better than the Hamilton.
I own 3 variations of the Super Antarctic and I love them all, I will say that the build quality here is a touch more solid but like you said, there are tradeoffs between the two lines.
I really want a non-vintaged black dial N-G Super Antarctic 3/6/9, but now I am VERY blown away by how effin' gorgeous this Hanhart Preventor HD12 is! Looks like I'll be putting off my getting a SA 3/6/9 some more.... 😅😂😅
Is it better than the Hamilton Murph 38mm
The Hamilton Murph is manufactured in China and assembled in Switzerland. The Hanhart is manufactured in Germany and assembled in Germany. The Hanhart is therefore the better value for money.
Yes, but one has to factor in what features, one actually needs for the price difference.
@@aphex_303 hanhart has loomed second hand too. I imagine if you heavily favour white or fauxtina you would favour one or the other. The hanhart is generally better specced tho. Also the 80 hour power reserve comes at the cost of decreased beat rate
@@kresimirpleic
Hard to argue with that
Much better than Murph. Would be even better if available. Unfortunately - sold out with no hope in sight.
How would you compare this to your Laco Flieger )sic) Pro’s? Fit & finish and how you think the 40mm Laco feels/looks on your wrist vs 39mm Hanhart, also which dial has more sunray finish? Thanks so much for your input, he says hopefully.
Compares well, a bit more overbuilt feeling with more heft, but not necessarily more refinement, maybe a bit more versatile though
As for the Sunray, this has a plain matte dial with no sunray texture, neither does the black dial Flieger Pro, only the Blue dial one.
@@AverageBros it is the blue dial I’m interested in. Thanks very much for answering my questions!
This blows the Hamilton out of the water - it’s superb and even better with the blue dial
Hamilton movements are simply much better & accurate...
@@SumerdiniHamilton dial finish looks like it came out of a Cracker Jack box. Chinese garbage.
How does this watch wear compared to the Murph 38? I have a smaller wrist and I’m not sure if this watch will fit me due to the lug to lug.
@@a_commisso77 they wear pretty close to each other, I'll eventually do a full comparison but did a strap review where I had them side-by-side if you want to check that out
I believe the Hanhart has the same lug to lug size as the murph.
@@AverageBros awesome thank you!
Sold out
It’s almost perfect. All it’s missing for me to stop cross shopping it is an OTF clasp. Fortunately, I’ve paused my watch buying until my wife graduates from college so hopefully they’ll update that by the time I’m actually looking to buy
@@mariog7213 not a deal breaker for me but it would be a nice addition for sure
hey, do you stream games on another channel?
@@russparkin6722 no, I don't but now am super curious as to who sounds like me 😂
@@AverageBros haha its a cod player called Phixate
My favorite 2024 is the Prospex Limited Edition 1965 Recreation European Exclusive in Gradation Island Blue. The dial is stunning and the contrast when on a white strap is to die for. I will get my hands on one from AMZWATCH
Beats the Hamilton hands down. Put my deposit on it a month ago...
With just a little more attention they could have used an on-the-fly ajustable clasp. Such a near miss!
MAMACOO is one of my favorite watch manufacturers they do offer beautifull dials, good workmanship & moovements.That smooth sweeping second hand is truly mesmerizing！
HD12 or tegimented steel ❓
This watch screams for a Sellita SW300...
I'm sure I'm in the minority, but for me and my wrist, I would have preferred this in 36mm.
Your hands look sweaty
Ever since I bought a watch from MAMACOO, My question is if it's this hard to tell them apart, what is the point of owning an authentic watch?
MAMACOO！Every time you exhibit one of these watches I become super tempted to get one.
Wish the numerals weren't so bold and fat
Then it would look boring and generic. Love watches that are that little bit different
@@Vainch this is a military watch
@Sumerdini and
Completely off topic but your hand looks like you’re retaining a lot of fluid, you have almost no visible knuckles, maybe you’re eating way too much salt, maybe a kidney issue but definitely talk to your doctor next time:)
Meh.
Nice to see MAMACOO show a watch that can be afforded by almost anyone rather than these pieces costing thousands and thousands which are out of reach for so many.
I have a real SUB but I also bought one of these replicas from MAMACOO for piece of mind if I go to another country or if I am doing activities that can damage the watch. I don't see anything wrong with that.