i love this video. the first time i figured out that functionality i went bonkers. before using a thinkpad i always wondered who even wanted a trackpoint... until i got used to it and fell in love with it. LONG LIVE TRACK POINT!
0:16 It appears you're applying a lot of lateral force and movement to the nub? Yesterday, I realised that it's way easier to press down on the bottom part of the nub if I want to move the pointer down (as opposed to trying to push it like a car's gear shifter from the top side). As for tmux; I stick to its default bindings and use Ctrl-B instead of the screen-style Ctrl-A.
My thumb almost never leaves the middle button. :) Scrolling, middle-clicking links, pasting selected text, it's so useful. The only thing I don't like about my keyboard is the Windows logo and menu button, so I epoxy painted those blue like my enter key and use them as my super keys in i3.
I was gifted a Thinkpad T500 it has 5 buttons plus the red track button in addition to synaptic touch pad. Just replace broken Hdd w/ssd and waiting on 8GB upgrade Have no idea how to use all these buttons to navigate my search turned up this video🤣 Excited in learning how to use this laptop's navigation buttons
Lol he looks so happy, I've owned and used multiple full sized keyboard for almost 8 years, and I didn't know what a Num Lock was till my college roomate showed me lolz
I've used several types of laptops and my favorite and current laptop is the T450 for studies and works. For me it has the best keyboard and mouse trackpad. I like to use middle click to forces links open in new tab and close a tab without aim to the "x" close button. My OS is Linux Ubuntu 20.04. I did not realize about this feature and now I like more yet of my Thinkpad thanks to you Sr.Kai.
It's called autoscrolling in Firefox. And yup, you hold middle click to scroll in conjunction with the mouse cursor. With any mouse, it's not just a trackpoint feature.
Ooh nice, I just have bought my first Thinkpad 😅😅 . Have you checked the thermal throttle issue with Thinkpads on Linux?, it's happening to my new X280, so sad.
I found this feature on another forum just before I came across this video. I was searching specifically for how to scroll using the trackpoint on my ThinkPad E15 because it makes my fingers hurt doing a two finger scroll on long pages all the time. The only thing I need to figure out next is how to get Lenovo to move the trackpad over to the right on their laptops. Being right handed, it hurts my right wrist after using the touchpad so far to the left after a while. Looking at the positioning right now as i type with the laptop on my lap, ideally, the trackpad needs to be above my right thigh. Instead it's more in line with the zipper on my trousers! I've got no idea why manufacturers don't pay any attention to ergonomics anymore when designing things 🙄
I use it all the time, and I agree with Failbit, the one thing that's better is the trackpoint itself. It worries me that people don't understand how much better this mouse is than the trackpad! (I keep being afraid Lenovo is going to give it up. Please... No! It's the best!)
i have used Thinkpad for more than 20 years never once did I use the trackpoint. I recently picked up a trackpoint keyboard, I may start to use it now.
What frightens me is not the fact that he didn't know this feature but how to use it otherwise? I have no clue what else to do with that middle mouse button than scrolling.
But if you didn't know that you could scroll with the middle button, then what did you think the middle button was for? By the way, I have never used any ThinkPads, and just plan to purchase T15 Gen 2 when it comes out. But I already knew that you can scroll like this, because I just looked at the ThinkPad User Manual, in TrackPoint section, when I first started looking at the ThinkPad series. - But anyway I prefer this button as an imitation of clicking the mouse wheel (middle button), which can perform many convenient actions. And I do not like scrolling in any form, as it is unpleasant to my eyes (even on iPad's 120 Hz screen). Therefore, the PgUp/PgDn buttons are what I use all the time. I especially hate scrolling on tablets and smartphones, as there simply is no alternative to the PgUp/PgDn keys.
@@kaihendry Strange, I never heard that by default this button is used for the Paste command. There was always a choice of two main options: either middle click or scrolling combined with TrackPoint there. This is clearly visible in the TrackPoint settings. Therefore, people who have looked at those settings at least several times cannot fail to know about this possibility.
wow it's the most obvious thing ever, I cannot even imagine how could you have used your computer without scrolling :O Though I always found it bizzare HP did not have scrolling feature :/
Glad you found it. I used to use the trackpoint while scrolling. But now i find it easier to scroll on the trackpad using two fingers. The setting can be customised though.
I've just bought thinkpad yesterday, I've figured it out somehow in 15 min :) but I'm wondering is there any feature about trackpoint that I can missed it?
Would I be able to scroll VERTICALLY when I open the TP in a 360 degree angle? Does it work without touchscreen? (I like to view webpages like on an Ipad. - Aren't many website opitimized for viewing with IOads?
How do I use the TrackPoint to CLICK?!?! My very first laptop was a ThinkPad, and I could navigate with the red dot, but I could also tap it and it would click. No idea how to do it now on my X1. Do we really believe the best way is to use the left button of the central trackpoint buttons? Does anyone know if there is a way to allow the red dot to "click when tapped" please? I am serious about this!
IBM engineers designed the trackpoint perfectly. Old X series dont even have trackpads yet still worked perfectly. Lenovo fucked it all up trying to copy Apple. People buy Thinkpads because of the 7row keyboards and god-tier nub. If you copy Apple. might as well buy Apple
i love this video. the first time i figured out that functionality i went bonkers. before using a thinkpad i always wondered who even wanted a trackpoint... until i got used to it and fell in love with it. LONG LIVE TRACK POINT!
Probably my most favorite feature aside from the trackpoint itself. It's super quick when navigating.
i always use that feature lol... glad you found it
That's hilarious you didn't know about this, glad you found it though.
You can adjust the trackpoint sensitivity in the mouse settings, and it will scroll a lot faster.
I figured this out as soon as I bought my first Thinkpad. Same model as yours.
yes trackpoint is pressure sensitive too, the more pressure and the faster it scroll. useful feature
ctrl+trackpoint for another amazing vid
I figured this out within a few hours of getting my first Thinkpad.
I can see why that would be embarrassing.
Long live the nipple.
You are just awesome Kai ... I had a good laugh. Well done.
I just brought one , and found it instantly from guessing !!!
0:16 It appears you're applying a lot of lateral force and movement to the nub? Yesterday, I realised that it's way easier to press down on the bottom part of the nub if I want to move the pointer down (as opposed to trying to push it like a car's gear shifter from the top side). As for tmux; I stick to its default bindings and use Ctrl-B instead of the screen-style Ctrl-A.
My thumb almost never leaves the middle button. :) Scrolling, middle-clicking links, pasting selected text, it's so useful. The only thing I don't like about my keyboard is the Windows logo and menu button, so I epoxy painted those blue like my enter key and use them as my super keys in i3.
I did not know this either! Thanks for posting this!
Can't believe you didn't know about it 😂
It works as a regular scroll wheel. If you hold the Ctrl key, while scrolling with the TrackPoint, you can zoom in and out.
this is hilariously helpful. thank you
I didn’t know about scrolling using the track point, 🙏 thank you
I was gifted a Thinkpad T500 it has 5 buttons plus the red track button in addition to synaptic touch pad. Just replace broken Hdd w/ssd and waiting on 8GB upgrade Have no idea how to use all these buttons to navigate my search turned up this video🤣 Excited in learning how to use this laptop's navigation buttons
That green powerlight is actually Yellowish Red. But i don't know why it looks Green in Camera
That's a few days of work lost in productivity...
Not gonna lie, that's just sad.. I'm glad you discovered it though.
I'm kinda in relief that you found this feature!
The trackpoint is a wonderful invention which is a lot more useful than the trackpad.
Jeez, there are so many things, I use an X60T for work there is actually more stuff. Enjoy the Journey.
And I didn't know the T480s can open flat all the way. haha.
Lol he looks so happy, I've owned and used multiple full sized keyboard for almost 8 years, and I didn't know what a Num Lock was till my college roomate showed me lolz
You will be using it so much now and it is very convenient
THANK YOU SO MUCH!! I use Linux on my t450, thank you!!! I've been using the scrollbar this whole time!
Been using think pad for the last 15 years how did I not know this
I knew about it but never use it, too cumbersome and never got used to it. You can change the speed of the scrolling in settings.
You can also scroll horizontally with it :]
You're not alone. I also didn't know.
Glad to learn that before ordering my first thinkpad
I've used several types of laptops and my favorite and current laptop is the T450 for studies and works. For me it has the best keyboard and mouse trackpad. I like to use middle click to forces links open in new tab and close a tab without aim to the "x" close button. My OS is Linux Ubuntu 20.04. I did not realize about this feature and now I like more yet of my Thinkpad thanks to you Sr.Kai.
Finding of the decade
...how?
Even my dell with a pointing stick has this.
Glad you found it lol.
Remembering key thinkpad features wastes memory
Lol amazed you didnt know. It's one of the best trackpoint features. Enjoy!
I believe there used to be a tip in the trackpoint settings.
It's called autoscrolling in Firefox.
And yup, you hold middle click to scroll in conjunction with the mouse cursor. With any mouse, it's not just a trackpoint feature.
I wonder if we can do that on buttonless X240?
Thanks for the video! Your honest expressions made my day. 😂
Enlightenment achieved !!! Thank you :)
jesus I got my first thinkpad yesterday (X1 Extreme Gen 2) and I figured this out after about 10 minutes of using the trackpoint hahaha
Wow, it works!! Thank you so much!!
Ooh nice, I just have bought my first Thinkpad 😅😅 . Have you checked the thermal throttle issue with Thinkpads on Linux?, it's happening to my new X280, so sad.
THANK YOU
I found this feature on another forum just before I came across this video.
I was searching specifically for how to scroll using the trackpoint on my ThinkPad E15 because it makes my fingers hurt doing a two finger scroll on long pages all the time.
The only thing I need to figure out next is how to get Lenovo to move the trackpad over to the right on their laptops.
Being right handed, it hurts my right wrist after using the touchpad so far to the left after a while.
Looking at the positioning right now as i type with the laptop on my lap, ideally, the trackpad needs to be above my right thigh. Instead it's more in line with the zipper on my trousers!
I've got no idea why manufacturers don't pay any attention to ergonomics anymore when designing things 🙄
😂😂😂😂
You can change the scrolling acceleration/speed ofc
I felt sorry for you Kai.❤
After over two decades of using windows, I've been taught that PCs also have clipboards like smartphones do.
I knew just now. But i already sold my ThinkPad years ago. Hiks hiks
oh man
I just know trackpoint scrolling with holding middle button after this video
I use it all the time, and I agree with Failbit, the one thing that's better is the trackpoint itself. It worries me that people don't understand how much better this mouse is than the trackpad! (I keep being afraid Lenovo is going to give it up. Please... No! It's the best!)
i have used Thinkpad for more than 20 years never once did I use the trackpoint. I recently picked up a trackpoint keyboard, I may start to use it now.
The two fingers scroll on the trackpad is better and more convenience...You have to click the middle button vs you just have to scroll.
Thanks! Very handy!
I just discovered press_to_select with the ThinkPoint
new to thinkpads discovered in two months
You are the special or maybe it's me.
@@kaihendry hah! tbf i thought maan if only i could scroll with the nub then wouldn't need a trackpad and i searched if others thought the samd
trackpoint is so much better than trackpad. I wish there's a gaming keyboard that has this trackpoint input too.
Wait until you find out about hidden shortcuts. Fn+B for Break, Fn+P for Pause and most importantly Fn + 4 for Sleep.
How do you use break?
Was just searching online for this feature today but discovered it by accident haha
It's okay we all have blind sides!
😂 same here. Took me about 10 years to discover it.
kek glad u found it
wow i'm here 2022
My trakpoint stops to work randomly on Linux Mint 20.3
two fingers scroll on the trackpad is more convenience and faster
how about use double fingers to use up and down? It's the same feature and much faster
:)
Yeah I prefer this... Swiping with 2 fingers on trackpad is a lot better
What frightens me is not the fact that he didn't know this feature but how to use it otherwise?
I have no clue what else to do with that middle mouse button than scrolling.
It’s good for pasting
I knew about this. But I am happy you found it. Better late then ever.
Thanks ! Was looking for this !
All well and good, but middle click and trackpoint also opens up new tabs for every link that you scroll past. Which is annoying.
Poor guy. I bet you he still lives with his mom...
How much?
@@kaihendry you joining to the no-fap movement vs I get married. Lol
Didn't know. Thank you!
New achievement unlocked :D
thats general culture man : P
But if you didn't know that you could scroll with the middle button, then what did you think the middle button was for? By the way, I have never used any ThinkPads, and just plan to purchase T15 Gen 2 when it comes out. But I already knew that you can scroll like this, because I just looked at the ThinkPad User Manual, in TrackPoint section, when I first started looking at the ThinkPad series.
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But anyway I prefer this button as an imitation of clicking the mouse wheel (middle button), which can perform many convenient actions. And I do not like scrolling in any form, as it is unpleasant to my eyes (even on iPad's 120 Hz screen). Therefore, the PgUp/PgDn buttons are what I use all the time. I especially hate scrolling on tablets and smartphones, as there simply is no alternative to the PgUp/PgDn keys.
middle click = paste
@@kaihendry Strange, I never heard that by default this button is used for the Paste command. There was always a choice of two main options: either middle click or scrolling combined with TrackPoint there. This is clearly visible in the TrackPoint settings. Therefore, people who have looked at those settings at least several times cannot fail to know about this possibility.
wow it's the most obvious thing ever, I cannot even imagine how could you have used your computer without scrolling :O Though I always found it bizzare HP did not have scrolling feature :/
Glad you found it. I used to use the trackpoint while scrolling. But now i find it easier to scroll on the trackpad using two fingers. The setting can be customised though.
I only know about this after watching your video. Lol🤣🤣👍
Yes, that is the reason that my hands don't move, unlike using a mouse! ;-)
I use it all the time!
I've just bought thinkpad yesterday, I've figured it out somehow in 15 min :) but I'm wondering is there any feature about trackpoint that I can missed it?
yup knew about this as soon as i got my x1 extreme! but hardly use it honestly.
This feature has existed since essentially scrolling was invented with a graphical UI 🤣
Would I be able to scroll VERTICALLY when I open the TP in a 360 degree angle? Does it work without touchscreen? (I like to view webpages like on an Ipad. - Aren't many website opitimized for viewing with IOads?
Easier way to scroll is just use two fingers swiping on the trackpad instead
How do I use the TrackPoint to CLICK?!?! My very first laptop was a ThinkPad, and I could navigate with the red dot, but I could also tap it and it would click. No idea how to do it now on my X1. Do we really believe the best way is to use the left button of the central trackpoint buttons? Does anyone know if there is a way to allow the red dot to "click when tapped" please? I am serious about this!
You don't know? What? Every thinkpad user is know about this since 1990s!
ok but what is the use of it? the trackpad can do it all
Asians are really ahead of time
epic im using st also! with the same patch. Great terminal
Wow, how did you not know that? Is this video a joke?
IBM engineers designed the trackpoint perfectly. Old X series dont even have trackpads yet still worked perfectly. Lenovo fucked it all up trying to copy Apple. People buy Thinkpads because of the 7row keyboards and god-tier nub. If you copy Apple. might as well buy Apple
Been using this since my X61 and X200 days (need to put a config file on xorg.conf.d). But now I more like 2 fingers scroll trackpad than that.
Yes, I failed to mention I use the two finger scroll. I guess I learned from MacOS trackpad this behaviour..
@@kaihendry and I just found out we can 4 fingers scroll to move between desktop in GNOME lol
Hi Kai, where can I get these two patches mentioned in the video? Can I use them on Windows?
Not sure which patches your talking about
@@kaihendry Seems links are not allowed in comments, I've found the patches in the suckless website, but they seem to only work on Linux.
same here bud, took me a similar period to find that spot in my wife!
I knew about it, but I never use it
I just discovered after 1 month thanks
That is cool feature .. I do know this 😀😀😀 ThinkPad is for true Linux users