So true. I once accidentally had sexual conversations with a minor in my late 30s. Even though she was sixteen and I knew that, I couldn't help myself and accidentally sent too much until I didn't know what I was doing. was all a mistake. I tried to tell the judge but they didn't even want to believe me. This is BS and the whole system is out to get him
@@neoyahtzee3713 I heard somewhere that he thought the messages were going to be leaked, that’s why he admitted, but when it was obvious that they didn’t have the messages is when he started to backtrack
This is America does your little 16-17 year old sister want to listen to you or goto oxford in England and other nations because you failed to raiser her with respect and decency
It’s not about them speaking to him it’s if this 38 year old man continues the conversation with a minor it makes that individual weird nonetheless so what point you tryna make? If a 16 year old messages you are you going to answer back and if you do are you going to blame the girl because she initiated the conversation when your the adult?
@@kingstonmclean4205 lol you people really think adult can´t at all communicate with a minor? I´m not talking about anything sexual, but if a teen fan contacts you what´s wrong with writing back and making their day? You prudish americans are so weird lol.
Doc may not have done what would be considered; definitively, sexting but context matters. He himself, in his first response post, said she was a minor and it probably went further than it should have even though no actual sexting was done. Mostly; what really gets me and I think is why I've never liked him, is how arrogant he is. Him posting the chess vs. checkers thing was wild; same goes for the boat to the island. Now, in his newest response; when you feel the need to say "I technically didn't do anything illegal", you know something is still wrong
@@sadistksuffring1537 yea, he’s still 100% in the wrong for messaging a minor, it really isn’t that hard to not do lol. I am curious on what he really said and hope one day we truly get to see these messages, because if they’re really not as bad as he says, it’ll clear his name well. On the other hand it could ruin his career which I assume is why he ISNT showing them
@IsanSamaa I'm curious too but even if it isn't what people are trying to say and it was more so just conversation with a fan, I still don't think his reputation will mend from that. The arrogance he exudes in saying all these things all while never releasing what was actually said doesn't really bode well for him. Either way, I don't think we'll see the conversation come from him. He doesn't have anything to gain from releasing it and it doesn't really seem like; at least the "Dr.Disrespect" character, to release it just to appease people.
I dunno if its weird based on what we know. There was no grooming and nothing sexual (as in sexual grooming or intent to do stuff). So that means most likely sexual innuendo jokes. As a society we have deemed innuendo jokes to be acceptable at around 13 based on most laws around it (including movie ratings for example). I really suspect thats all it was. "inappropriate comments" and they call him a ped? really? Those "i think your sexy" type comments are considered grooming and he objectively didn't do that as its illegal where he was and so he'd be in jail. Every streamer would be banned if it what he did was wrong. Name a streamer that hasn't made a single sexual joke on stream. ill wait.\ EDIT: for the record this is from the perspective of a child grape victim. I was graped at 5 years old and people are comparing THIS to what I went through. Absolute insanity. They are doing it for views no question.
@@UchihaSumairu yea that’s why I tried to keep calling him a predator out of the video since in the video I brought up the fact that if they were sexually charged comments in terms of him obviously grooming her, then the original twitch staff that reviewed the case and said it was okay (assuming he’s not lying) and the court themselves deemed it not sexting, then who am I to say that he was sexting a minor, mostly when it’s obvious that Cody Connor’s was only trying to make money out of this situation instead of actually “exposing” him. But maybe one day we’ll see the messages and it’ll all change, who knows
@@IsanSamaa Yeah no doubt. It would have immediately turned into a criminal court case if it even slightly looked like grooming of intent to do things. I think adults are allowed to be friends with minors especially ones that are pretty much adults. Obviously keep things age appropriate but I think joking around with friends is reasonable even if the jokes get a little dirty as long as they arent the type of jokes that imply sex and they said it wasn't sexting or grooming so it obviously wasnt. Judges very quickly throw the book at people even leaning on that edge especially to public figures that aren't in government >.>... Anyways have a good one lol.
Do you know what was in the messages? Look at his statements, there was never anything sexual. What do you exactly find disgusting about what he did? Considering you dont even know what he wrote. Even the other individual told twitch it was fine, but was pushed to report it by some shady twitch manager. Then this report was evaluated and dropped by twitch
@hansyolo4422 yeah inappropriate conversation for a 30 something man to be having with an under age girl, including talking about meeting up at an event! Everyone knows! Doesn't have to be actually sexual it was inappropriate regardless, and doc himself even said it was inappropriate! Doesn't matter if both parties are cool with it, doesn't matter if it wasn't sexual it was still inappropriate and still very much disgusting. It would be like me 35 talking to a 16 year old and we talk about a bunch of random stuff getting to know each other, and we start making plans to meet up at an upcoming event. Do you really think that's cool and not completely inappropriate? And that's assuming he said absolutely nothing sexual! Considering he's refusing to show people the messages and every source that investigated him refuses to show them, it's clear that it was very inappropriate and clearly would not be taken so well by the public!
Don't pretend nuance doesn't matter when everyone was calling him a child rapist pedo and ruined him financially. Misjudged interaction that could be innocent in intent, but should know better how it can be perceived.
@zombievikinggaming4258 it doesn't matter if it's innocent. He's a 30 something man talking to an underage girl talking about meeting up after twitchcon in private! It doesn't matter if it was the most E rated conversation, that's inappropriate, and that's assuming the best case scenario for what was said! And he wasn't ruined financially 🤣 twitch paid out his contract and dropped him, and even with the hate from the internet, the dude is still making millions on RUclips. What do you mean "ruined financially"? As I said, if there was "nothing inappropriate," he'd black out anything that pertained to her identity and release the conversation to set the record straight. Anyone would do the same if it wasn't inappropriate.
Sometimes leaning into inappropriate conversation = sometimes being a pedo.
He's not innocent, but not as bad as the media and those reactions online, it's just a mistake he did.
So true. I once accidentally had sexual conversations with a minor in my late 30s. Even though she was sixteen and I knew that, I couldn't help myself and accidentally sent too much until I didn't know what I was doing. was all a mistake. I tried to tell the judge but they didn't even want to believe me. This is BS and the whole system is out to get him
He literally admitted to it, and then tried to cover it up lmao.
@@neoyahtzee3713 I heard somewhere that he thought the messages were going to be leaked, that’s why he admitted, but when it was obvious that they didn’t have the messages is when he started to backtrack
Would you think it’s innocent if your little 16-17 sister or cousin was talking to a 38 year old man?
This is America does your little 16-17 year old sister want to listen to you or goto oxford in England and other nations because you failed to raiser her with respect and decency
Look at how many sisters sell themselves to only fans are you going to sell your ideal to combat their money
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It’s not about them speaking to him it’s if this 38 year old man continues the conversation with a minor it makes that individual weird nonetheless so what point you tryna make? If a 16 year old messages you are you going to answer back and if you do are you going to blame the girl because she initiated the conversation when your the adult?
@@kingstonmclean4205 lol you people really think adult can´t at all communicate with a minor? I´m not talking about anything sexual, but if a teen fan contacts you what´s wrong with writing back and making their day? You prudish americans are so weird lol.
2024: year of the allegations
Doc may not have done what would be considered; definitively, sexting but context matters. He himself, in his first response post, said she was a minor and it probably went further than it should have even though no actual sexting was done. Mostly; what really gets me and I think is why I've never liked him, is how arrogant he is. Him posting the chess vs. checkers thing was wild; same goes for the boat to the island. Now, in his newest response; when you feel the need to say "I technically didn't do anything illegal", you know something is still wrong
@@sadistksuffring1537 yea, he’s still 100% in the wrong for messaging a minor, it really isn’t that hard to not do lol.
I am curious on what he really said and hope one day we truly get to see these messages, because if they’re really not as bad as he says, it’ll clear his name well. On the other hand it could ruin his career which I assume is why he ISNT showing them
@IsanSamaa I'm curious too but even if it isn't what people are trying to say and it was more so just conversation with a fan, I still don't think his reputation will mend from that. The arrogance he exudes in saying all these things all while never releasing what was actually said doesn't really bode well for him. Either way, I don't think we'll see the conversation come from him. He doesn't have anything to gain from releasing it and it doesn't really seem like; at least the "Dr.Disrespect" character, to release it just to appease people.
Not his politics, it’s being a alpha male
I dunno if its weird based on what we know. There was no grooming and nothing sexual (as in sexual grooming or intent to do stuff). So that means most likely sexual innuendo jokes. As a society we have deemed innuendo jokes to be acceptable at around 13 based on most laws around it (including movie ratings for example). I really suspect thats all it was. "inappropriate comments" and they call him a ped? really?
Those "i think your sexy" type comments are considered grooming and he objectively didn't do that as its illegal where he was and so he'd be in jail.
Every streamer would be banned if it what he did was wrong. Name a streamer that hasn't made a single sexual joke on stream. ill wait.\
EDIT: for the record this is from the perspective of a child grape victim. I was graped at 5 years old and people are comparing THIS to what I went through. Absolute insanity. They are doing it for views no question.
@@UchihaSumairu yea that’s why I tried to keep calling him a predator out of the video since in the video I brought up the fact that if they were sexually charged comments in terms of him obviously grooming her, then the original twitch staff that reviewed the case and said it was okay (assuming he’s not lying) and the court themselves deemed it not sexting, then who am I to say that he was sexting a minor, mostly when it’s obvious that Cody Connor’s was only trying to make money out of this situation instead of actually “exposing” him.
But maybe one day we’ll see the messages and it’ll all change, who knows
@@IsanSamaa Yeah no doubt. It would have immediately turned into a criminal court case if it even slightly looked like grooming of intent to do things. I think adults are allowed to be friends with minors especially ones that are pretty much adults. Obviously keep things age appropriate but I think joking around with friends is reasonable even if the jokes get a little dirty as long as they arent the type of jokes that imply sex and they said it wasn't sexting or grooming so it obviously wasnt. Judges very quickly throw the book at people even leaning on that edge especially to public figures that aren't in government >.>...
Anyways have a good one lol.
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@@musaabMK im making a rant on it tomorrow, it fucking sucks
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Idc if what he did was legal in the eyes of the court it's still disgusting...
Do you know what was in the messages? Look at his statements, there was never anything sexual. What do you exactly find disgusting about what he did? Considering you dont even know what he wrote. Even the other individual told twitch it was fine, but was pushed to report it by some shady twitch manager. Then this report was evaluated and dropped by twitch
@hansyolo4422 yeah inappropriate conversation for a 30 something man to be having with an under age girl, including talking about meeting up at an event! Everyone knows! Doesn't have to be actually sexual it was inappropriate regardless, and doc himself even said it was inappropriate! Doesn't matter if both parties are cool with it, doesn't matter if it wasn't sexual it was still inappropriate and still very much disgusting. It would be like me 35 talking to a 16 year old and we talk about a bunch of random stuff getting to know each other, and we start making plans to meet up at an upcoming event. Do you really think that's cool and not completely inappropriate? And that's assuming he said absolutely nothing sexual! Considering he's refusing to show people the messages and every source that investigated him refuses to show them, it's clear that it was very inappropriate and clearly would not be taken so well by the public!
Don't pretend nuance doesn't matter when everyone was calling him a child rapist pedo and ruined him financially. Misjudged interaction that could be innocent in intent, but should know better how it can be perceived.
@zombievikinggaming4258 it doesn't matter if it's innocent. He's a 30 something man talking to an underage girl talking about meeting up after twitchcon in private! It doesn't matter if it was the most E rated conversation, that's inappropriate, and that's assuming the best case scenario for what was said! And he wasn't ruined financially 🤣 twitch paid out his contract and dropped him, and even with the hate from the internet, the dude is still making millions on RUclips. What do you mean "ruined financially"? As I said, if there was "nothing inappropriate," he'd black out anything that pertained to her identity and release the conversation to set the record straight. Anyone would do the same if it wasn't inappropriate.
@@Usmc5113these comments are kinda crazy, you are completely right dude
Needed this video