AMP 3/18/18 with JZilla Track Days. Only thing that broke was the radiator. Installed a new one and went out the next session. Pictures here: photos.app.goo...
Say what? Are people actually giving you notes on your hand position during a slide? No. Just. No. You made a good finish out of a downhill corner entry mistake I see students make year after year. A lot of guys would've just ridden that oversteer all the way around with a death grip on the wheel and "both feet in," for a fast hard smack into the wall backwards. You kept your head in the game and kept driving the car with your eyes up, and you got it slowed down enough that it was a trivial hit. I actually thought you might catch it, and you would have if you had been on level ground instead of going downhill. Plus I bet you'll never brake on a downhill and turn the wheel again. Way to own it, man!
Glad you and the car are okay, could've been way worse! Since we're talking about sliding out of control, in drifting terms what you did was a braking initiation where you put all your weight on the front, precipitated by going downhill, and when you streered right there was not enough grip left in the rear to hold it together. To save this situation, you can do two things: 1. Go hard on the throttle to put the weight at the rear while slightly countersteering then feeding steering out of the slide and streightening - recommended in your case 2. Stay off throttle or keep braking a bit and countersteer more than necessary into the slide (inducing some front understeer as well) thus preventing a transition to the other side and wait till the car stabilises and straightens then proceed onwards. In this situation off throttle might not be enough, a bit of braking might be necessary to avoid the slap due to low weight and short wheelbase. - This is much riskier and little point to it in your case Hope this helps people in a similar situation. Of course, practice doing this is critical, unlikely you can execute the manouvers well when put on the spot without previous practice. Cheers!
you threw that wheel like it had a long wheelbase and more weight. you know ya cant slide that shit that way. Much love glad your ok and the fix was quick.
Enjoyed meeting you at AMP yesterday. Took your advice and, yes, it was easy to find this video. I was the guy with his 13 yr old son. Cool car, glad the wreck wasn't worse
Glad you are OK and the Exocet isn't hurt too bad. Got to remember when you get into those situations when in doubt both feet out. Watch and see how long it was before your foot is on the brake pedal. Once you go off track or are heading that way don't worry about saving it or not flat spotting the tires just get on both pedals. It happens to the best so don't beat yourself up about it.
Glad you're ok bud. We were out at AMP last season and for some reason I expected it to be that turn haha. Glad you were able to get back out and no injuries. I'm sure we will cross each other's paths soon.
The Frame took the impact ok? Thanks for this video, I plan to build one but wanted to know how much of a beating it could take. Looks like it is pretty solid!
That sucks man. Looked like a decent hit, surprised you were still able to drive it. Thankfully you seemed to be fine. Have you checked the frame yet? Pretty cool it was just a radiator, that's not bad at all.
The frame didn't look bent seeing with just my eyeballs. Checking with a straightedge, the thick lower round tubes seem to be ever so slightly tweaked outwards on both sides. All of the other tubes are completely straight, so don't know how that happens.
You should call Exocet tomorrow and see if you can get some basic frame measurements to confirm if it is straight or got bent. Even if you don't fix it, would be nice to know.
Lukas Gilkey Kevin, CEO of Exomotive was at the event and he looked over it. He didn't see anything majorly wrong. The only thing I can think of is 3d scan it to take measurements. It doesn't looked tweaked at all so I'm not sure we can get any useful measurements out if it
Your exocet looks exactly like mine down to the seat! Ha, glad you got back out there! photos.app.goo.gl/9cWv670s0bToPHze2 Hope to get mine out to AMP sometime soon! I've got to go get it aligned and then do a shakedown.
u need to practice drifting, if you had any drift skills would had been an easy safe. problem was you corrected then over corrected which put you back in the slide again. glad you're ok tho.
Jesse Poage you are right, as you can see he went in panic mode, moved wheel way to many times , by the time he was done with the wheel the car was just floating, just saying. also when u are used to drifting you can correct a wheel slide and gain control, i have done it many times on the snow. look at it it closely the car never lost grip, he just hit a bump felt air in his butt and activated panic mode, in his head everything was moving in slow motion. being good at drifting would had saved this crash. drifting: "you are not in control unless you are out of control"
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Say what? Are people actually giving you notes on your hand position during a slide? No. Just. No. You made a good finish out of a downhill corner entry mistake I see students make year after year. A lot of guys would've just ridden that oversteer all the way around with a death grip on the wheel and "both feet in," for a fast hard smack into the wall backwards. You kept your head in the game and kept driving the car with your eyes up, and you got it slowed down enough that it was a trivial hit. I actually thought you might catch it, and you would have if you had been on level ground instead of going downhill. Plus I bet you'll never brake on a downhill and turn the wheel again. Way to own it, man!
Thanks James, means a lot to me. Appreciate the input!
Nice, minimal damage is always nice both personal and the car. glad you were ok.
Glad you and the car are okay, could've been way worse!
Since we're talking about sliding out of control, in drifting terms what you did was a braking initiation where you put all your weight on the front, precipitated by going downhill, and when you streered right there was not enough grip left in the rear to hold it together. To save this situation, you can do two things:
1. Go hard on the throttle to put the weight at the rear while slightly countersteering then feeding steering out of the slide and streightening - recommended in your case
2. Stay off throttle or keep braking a bit and countersteer more than necessary into the slide (inducing some front understeer as well) thus preventing a transition to the other side and wait till the car stabilises and straightens then proceed onwards. In this situation off throttle might not be enough, a bit of braking might be necessary to avoid the slap due to low weight and short wheelbase. - This is much riskier and little point to it in your case
Hope this helps people in a similar situation. Of course, practice doing this is critical, unlikely you can execute the manouvers well when put on the spot without previous practice. Cheers!
you threw that wheel like it had a long wheelbase and more weight. you know ya cant slide that shit that way. Much love glad your ok and the fix was quick.
Enjoyed meeting you at AMP yesterday. Took your advice and, yes, it was easy to find this video. I was the guy with his 13 yr old son. Cool car, glad the wreck wasn't worse
Glad you’re safe! I had my tail end kick out from a botched trail brake. Fun times. Hope you didn’t have much damage. Good luck in the future.
Glad you are OK and the Exocet isn't hurt too bad. Got to remember when you get into those situations when in doubt both feet out. Watch and see how long it was before your foot is on the brake pedal. Once you go off track or are heading that way don't worry about saving it or not flat spotting the tires just get on both pedals. It happens to the best so don't beat yourself up about it.
Glad you're ok bud. We were out at AMP last season and for some reason I expected it to be that turn haha. Glad you were able to get back out and no injuries. I'm sure we will cross each other's paths soon.
Oops ... sorry man.
I got track day in my Exocet in a couple of weeks fingers crossed I don’t bin it
That fit was moving out pretty good.
The Frame took the impact ok? Thanks for this video, I plan to build one but wanted to know how much of a beating it could take. Looks like it is pretty solid!
There was absolutely no damage to the frame after this impact.
That sucks man. Looked like a decent hit, surprised you were still able to drive it. Thankfully you seemed to be fine. Have you checked the frame yet? Pretty cool it was just a radiator, that's not bad at all.
Broken radiator and broke 3/4 radiator mounts. Got a new radiator from Racing Analytics who is on site and went out the next session.
The frame didn't look bent seeing with just my eyeballs. Checking with a straightedge, the thick lower round tubes seem to be ever so slightly tweaked outwards on both sides. All of the other tubes are completely straight, so don't know how that happens.
You should call Exocet tomorrow and see if you can get some basic frame measurements to confirm if it is straight or got bent. Even if you don't fix it, would be nice to know.
Lukas Gilkey Kevin, CEO of Exomotive was at the event and he looked over it. He didn't see anything majorly wrong. The only thing I can think of is 3d scan it to take measurements. It doesn't looked tweaked at all so I'm not sure we can get any useful measurements out if it
Well hell, you can't have anyone better look it over! I would probably have my alignment checked just to be sure and then send it.
Not sure but I think that same hill rolled a Subaru once...
Your exocet looks exactly like mine down to the seat! Ha, glad you got back out there!
photos.app.goo.gl/9cWv670s0bToPHze2
Hope to get mine out to AMP sometime soon! I've got to go get it aligned and then do a shakedown.
hopefully your shakedown run isn't as eventful as mine!
Let's hope not! I'm going to shake down the Exocet at an AutoX first before I get it out on the big tracks.
u need to practice drifting, if you had any drift skills would had been an easy safe. problem was you corrected then over corrected which put you back in the slide again. glad you're ok tho.
Axel Official U nEeD tO pRaCtIcE dRiFtInG.
Axel Official car control with intentional dRiFtInG is quite a lot different than when you have a weight transfer issue at track speed
Jesse Poage you are right, as you can see he went in panic mode, moved wheel way to many times , by the time he was done with the wheel the car was just floating, just saying. also when u are used to drifting you can correct a wheel slide and gain control, i have done it many times on the snow. look at it it closely the car never lost grip, he just hit a bump felt air in his butt and activated panic mode, in his head everything was moving in slow motion. being good at drifting would had saved this crash. drifting: "you are not in control unless you are out of control"
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he lost grip @ :50 you walnut
Ran out of talent.