That depends on the design of the headphones. Better quality ones have good cable isolation that almost entirely eliminates this phenomena. That said, the headphones used in this test doesn't look that great to me and probably would indeed suffer from it, although it looks like Jack tried to be careful with the cable. Also, based on the subjects' experiences, especially Wheels, it seems like this either was no issue or they just played along with it.
But in reality Wired ones really gives best audio Bluetooth is just messed up and brands are forcing us to shift towards wireless even if we have to compromise on quality. You just fell into a trap.
Job Done Right Why? Is it because you disagree with my personal opinion? Well that's very 'adult-like' of you. Since you insist, I'll stoop down to your pathetic level with this counter attack ... I'm rubber you're glue anything you say blah blah blah you know the rest.
Very neat, great concept, but here are some improvement suggestions: Could've attached a cable to the wireless set to make it feel nearly identical on their heads. Publish your audio file properties, music app and source device. This should be pretty standard and completes the picture for viewers. Have them test multiple tracks, switching the order of the headphones.
The wire was touching them, so that's easy to tell. You should have tapped a wire to the wireless one that you let just dangle, so that wouldn't give it away. You should have also tapped a battery to the wired one, because of the weight difference.
I'm pretty sure the wireless headphones just have the option to plug a cable to them too for when the battery dies so they just use the same headphone everytime.
The decreased quality occurs because audio is not sent losslessly through the Bluetooth interface. It is re-encoded using a lossy codec to limit the bandwidth necessary to transmit the audio. Any time you re-encode audio, especially from a lossy format to another lossy format, there's a loss of fidelity. If the audio data was streamed using a lossless format over the BT interface, there would likely not be any noticeable difference from the wired headphones. Unfortunately the existing standards for BT audio do not enable the use of lossless compression.
It's true the difference is huge my Headset is wireless and wired so I have the option to swap to either the 2. When listening to music I use wired but when gaming I swap to wireless because I tend to snag my wires when playing. But the difference is huge when wired the sound is more clear and the highs and mids are spot on while on the wireless like they said it's a bit muffled.
The thing about doing these tests is it is very hard to tell the difference unless your hearing is 1. Really good and 2. You are good at memorizing noise profiles. You need really good hearing so you can find the very small differences. The moment you take off one headset and put in another your ears have already picked up the audio from your surroundings so you would need to be able to remember what the noise profile of the headset was.
It is so hard to explain this kind of stuff over text, and to be honest unless you have done some audio work or have good ears you really can’t tell the difference. Someone would need to create an adapter that can instantaneously change between cable and wireless. You can’t allow any pause or allow it to go quite. The moment it does your brain forgets the small differences.
I was just actually looking at some of the comments I don't care if they could feel the wire or not I just wanted to know if you could tell the difference in the quality of the sound perfect video thank you.
It depends on the dac, so basically the dac in the wireless version of that headphone clearly was worse than the dac where the wired headphones were connected to.
True and I think the dac in my sony xb70bt are better than I have ever heard through the headphone jack minus portable amps which I am unwilling to use
you missed the most important piece of info: what Bluetooth audio codec is being used? SBC? aptx? aptx-hd? aac? it might be easy to tell the diff between 3.5mm and SBC, but is it just as easy to tell the diff between 3.5mm and aptx-hd?
I would like to note that in all honesty, there is a difference, but a general consumer won't really care. Sure, I could have earbuds or over ear headphones, but if I'm jogging, that cable becomes a hazard. I'm fine with using my bluetooth stereo headphones; they play music enough for me to enjoy and I can answer phone calls while changing tracks. Yes, wired headsets also have this feature, but I've yet to see forward/back and non-analog volume control on them.
It's all a matter of perspective - some people just don't have a clue or are not trained to hear the difference.. Wired for quality bluetooth for convenience.
Lonewolf and the sliding of the cable in his hand surely had to introduce cable noise. I probably would have attached a cable to the wireless set to remove the variable.
Lonewolf and the sliding of the cable in his hand surely had to introduce cable noise. I probably would have attached a cable to the wireless set to remove the variable.
69nites He slide the cable on his hand and around on the desk for the wireless as well to try and mask it, as well as holding the wire so it never touched the person or (hopefully) they never even felt the slight tug of the wire being on one ear. But yea, leaving the wire plugged in may have been better but the way the headphones are made it may automatically disable wireless when you plug something into the slot. Who knows.
Would have been nice to know what quality the original song was. Bluetooth is still a limiting factor for wireless just in therms of throughput. Headphones with wireless proprietary technologies can be much better but can also interfere with other devices that use radio transmission.
i´m a audiophile (wannabe?) but i can hear the difference even from one wire to another wire, a high quality vs a low quality, for example, i mod my Panasonic RP-HTF259 to have plug in cable becase they bring like 5 metters of cable...and i started using a cheap unmarked cable and they sound pretty bad, i tryed with other cable unmarked... sound the same... but when i bought a LG cable of 1.8m long.. dammmmmnnnn the sound changes from day to night, using a Pionner console and a Fiio amp...
It's all the interference in the cheapo cable. A lot of people don't realize it, but electricity plays a HUGE role in the overall sound. For example using an amp to power headphones will make them sound better because more electricity (and better current of electricity) generally = better sound. However just upgrading the crap out of one thing may not necessarily improve the sound. Your signal is only as good as your worst piece, or connection. Could be the audio source, a cable, a speaker, or just about anything. You are on the right path young padawan!
enginesnblades A good way to improve the overall quallity of a sound cable is to make a coil around ferrite cores on both ends, there's a noticeable difference in the audio between a "standard" cable and cable shielded with ferrite.
Stefan Slobodanovski If you study music long enough your ear will begin to develop. You will begin to hear even the slightest difference in any sound. You know why guitarists want thier guitar to have certain wood? Simple, we can hear the difference! Most people listening to music have no idea when such a subtle this is changed but to a musician it's night and day. You simply dont have a developed ear, so you dont pick up on the subtle things. But yes it's in our head. Itd be strange to have ears anywhere else, imo.
You should have taped the cable to the wireless headphones, you can feel and hear when you pull the cable or just move it a little bit so they know instantly which are the wired headphones.
Make sure the headphones Bluetooth supports aptX or uses proprietary wireless and its not an issue, regular Bluetooth is only designed with music in mind so can have ~100-200ms of latency.
It would have been better to have the wired one using USB instead of 3.5mm because then they would both be using the inline soundcard, I would have also plugged a wire into the wireless ones on the headphone side and left it unplugged on the device side so they would feel the same as the wired pair (a wire is a pretty hard thing not to notice regardless of how carefully you hold it). More swaps with a random order would have been better too, one swap means even a complete guess has a 50% chance of being right. Round 2 perhaps?
of course you can tell a difference especially in media that have high sample rate. The wireless require to downsample the sound in order to reduce the bandwidth so that it matches the frequency
Is it just me or doesnt the cable transfer vibrations when he holds it and therefore gives it away? When i swing around with my cable i can clearly hear it.
Алексей Фомин I don't use headphones on computers though as I do with portable devices which have a weaker amp/dac through headpone jack than bluetooth headphones
I have wireless beats studio 2s and it's nice to use wireless for working out or cleaning etc. but there is a difference with Bluetooth vs wired. Bluetooth has a metallic/gritty sound and less depth to it, you don't get the same sense of space and impact. It sounds like voices are in your ear versus an inch or two away from your ear if that makes sense. Anyone else feel me?
Do the test again and add a wire (with same stiffness etc) at same position on the wireless headphone shell. Then you don't need to take care touching and they can't FEEL the difference.
There is another factor other then quality. The more bluetooth things you have the more interference you are creating and the harder to make connections and slower that connection will be. I've had to trouble shoot these situations where devices would not pair, until I had the person take the device away from all the others. Big issue? probably not. but I like to keep interference down. I have had a few situations were I could not connect to wi-fi with to many devices going. Once I had connection it was fine, but I could not get the initial connection.
I know the batteries on headphones aren’t too beefy and I’m not familiar with this model but wouldn’t this be slightly noticeable along with the obvious lack of a cable. Should have just used a wireless headphone that had a removable auxiliary option.
i think it depends on the quality of the track. Let say u hear flac format which is 20-30mb each tracks. In this case i believe the bluetooth signal wont able to send this much data to your bluetooth speaker/headset, so what they do, they compress the size of the data to the size that bluetooth can handle. If u hear to 128kbps mp3, i think u will hear less diffrence on the sound quality.
I know it's not really the same thing, but I can tell instantly when someone is calling from a bluethooth device, especially one in a car. With all the advancements in wireless tech nothing matches the call quality of a land line to land line connection. Cellphones have a noticeably higher lag when trying to have a conversation, and if both are also using a bluethooth headset the lag becomes so great it begins causing problems with always talking over each other.
With the 3.5mm, the music will be processed via the pc's sound card. But with the Bluetooth, the music will be processed via the headset's on-board soundcard. Hence the difference in sound. If you use the usb connection, the sound will b processed by the headset instead. So maybe a usb vs Bluetooth would yield different results?
this test should actually be conducted with video games because there should be minimal differences between wireless and wired when you're only listening to something. when you're playing games, you want your audio to be synced with the game video.
I have a pair of headphones that turn into wire when it is connected and there is a difference, a huge one like the wireless have weaker sound but when connected it sounds better
When shopping for bluetooth headphone, I would like to know how it sounds when bluetooth is off and just use wire. This is important to me because whenever practical I would like to use the cable for the following reasons: 1. Conserve internal battery power. 2. Conserve internal battery charging capability.. 3. If the sound, when wired, is as good as any wire-only headphone with similar price, then I only need one headphone for home use and for commuting.
Its crazy how wireless Headphones go for like 100-150$, while wired ones go for like 30-40$ while even being a lot better than wireless ones. I personally did a test like this as well some time ago, and im gonna be honest, I barely noticed a difference with the Music, however when watching Movies or playing Games, thats when the Audio compression from the Bluetooth Headphones really kicked in.
I have a pair of IE80 and i have a bluetooth wireless cable for them using my note 8 with flac files i can tell the difference instantly. the wireless connection has less bass and the lyrics of the track are muffled its more like a vibration motor compared to the high end audio they usually produce. with the original ie80 cable theres more bass and lyrics are clear
Can't talk about blu-tooth or however you write that, but I have wireless Sennheiser headphones. Of course, when I work with Audio, I always use wired headphones, but for just normal use (RUclips, other PC stuff...) it is just more comfortable. I can go get a drink while still listening to my stuff, because real wireless headphones work on a larger range. All in all Wireless is pretty amazing, but not something to consider if it is important to have superior audio (like a content producer).
im not sure how this is but i have AKG Y45bt headset. its louder bluetooth mode than it is cable. i contacted AKG and they said yes the bluetooth mode is louder. so to me bluetooth is the better way and sounds good in my headset.
If you're using bluetooth wireless then the digital audio processing is done on the bluetooth headphones and the output is as good as your headphones (meaning with bluetooth headphones, you do not need a sound card or audio processor on your PC). If you're using 3.5mm wired, the digital audio processing is done on the sound card or the audio processor inside your PC and it is being output to the 3.5mm. In my case, my bluetooth headphones are limited to 48 Khz sampling rate at 328 kbps. While using 3.5mm fed by my PC audio processor I get 192 Khz @ 32-bits. I definitely notice the difference between bluetooth and 3.5mm wired.
You could tell completely without a doubt even if you had no experience with wired/wireless once a song changes due to the lag between them which is which, or more like buffer is what wireless feels like.
heck yeah you can tell the difference between wired and wireless..easy..especially when it comes to clarity and sound separation. Bluetooth has almost no sound separation at all, it's just muddy and muffled
Maybe with a good amp which most mobile devices(smartphones,etc) don't have but most consumers don't use external amps. I grabbed both models of sony extra bass earbuds xb70bt and xb50ap and the bluetooth version sounded better to me than wired(without an external amp)
i think you should ask them immediately after each headphone test and choose the headphone randomly. Not just the first one is wired and the second one is wireless. Also 2 headphone test for each is not enough, maybe you should do 10 for each person and choose the headphone to test randomly.
The real difference is in the sound delay that comes from bluetooth. You don't notice that when listening to a song, but you can see/hear it when playing a game or a virtual instrument, or even watching a movie. I would go with RF (radio frequency) headphones.
I don't notice any lag with my playstation vita and sony xb70bt earbuds or jbl xtreme and charge 3 speakers unless I have the jbl speakers connected together via the connect feature
***** yeah for sure, especially when you have a lot of radio interference, or have low battery, or have to plug in the keyboard often to charge it. Then that becomes several minutes of delay.
This experiment should not be considered as a final answer to wired vs wireless. This experiment should be just be considered as a comparison between these two specific headphones.
I tbh have everything wired, I just hate having to charge things our get batteries for them, also I always feel like performance is better when it's wired rather than wireless, though one thing I hate about wired and I hate this with a burning passion is that after time the connection can come lose and this happens to me ALL the time with bloody everything, so if there were a way to incorporate wireless charging into wireless devices I'd totally go wireless for most things excluding headphones.
This test is obsolete now because we have qualcom aptx, aptx hd, ldac, along with new bluetooth 5.0. I guarantee it's very hard to notice a difference now.
Bluetooth also has this weired pitch effects when you move away a bit from the device and keep moving around. Also happened in my pocket all the time and i started hating the Bluetooth Headshpones and switched back to the best headphones in the world, my Sennheiser CX-300-II. Even thou the dont have a badass sound when plugging them in, the have no limit in resolution and never override, meaning you can equalize how you want and still have an awesome clear sound.
Realistically my guess is that it may be from interferance from other devices, such as a mobile phone, wireless mouse, or any other device which may just be using a radio... I think that would explain how it's not really easy to tell the difference, but if you listen carefully, you will notice. Very cool video though! :)
Recently my brother's girlfriend brought home a wireless sound bar from Samsung. When we used it with Bluetooth it was horrible, but as soon as we plugged in some wires it became amazing. I guess it's because of the limited range, compression and vulnerability to interference that cause Bluetooth to lose quality. Also the low-quality DACs and amplifiers on many portable devices.
Must be a brand thing rather than bluetooth unless the device is old, when they have come out with some high res certified bluetooth devices My sony xb70bt sound awesome/better and louder on playstation vita slim than the corded version I tried xb50ap and my jbl xtreme sounds just as good through bluetooth or wired to me. I am unwilling to use a portable amp with corded headphones which may level the playing field though
Aside from poor testing, it is impossible for wireless to sound as good as wired. Wireless can only utilize Compressed formats, where wired can utilize uncompressed formats.
Richard Bijlhout - Blu-tooth cannot utilize lossless codecs, at least not yet and most likely never will. I think you just might not know what you're talking about.
Do soms research before saying somthing you dont know! Bt can do any codec you like as the hardware dev, its Just a tx-rx ( at a speed) (and ya i know there are stack's etc but Just keep it simple and count) connect a soc (or build one like qualcomm did with aptx-HD soc ) that does harddecode of Flac your done. Bit rate average MAX 1000kbits , and your saying noooooo owww nooooo bt cant go even 1000kbs thats is like so inpossible nooooooo... Welcom to 2017 my friend. Like 5 years to late but your here at last 😶 Get your self a aptx HD headset witch Will alow lossless where the speed is optimal
Think you should have used wireless headphones that have a 3.5mm Jack in case the battery dies. In case there was a manufacturing difference between the two.
For your next test plug the USB cable so that way they will feel cable on both. My tablet is Atmos digital and i bought headphones which i can definitely hear the difference from Bluetooth. Not on RUclips tho.
i far prefer wired, but the huge factor in this is the DAC. On wired, it uses the DAC that is it plugged into, wireless has a DAC built into the headset. You're most likely going to get a better DAC elsewhere than on the headset itself, so that is why wired will win almost every time.
you should have taped a wire to the wireless ones
@Mainframe2066 yeah
Nope
You can really hear someone touching the cable of the headphones if you have the headphones on. The test has no sense.
That depends on the design of the headphones. Better quality ones have good cable isolation that almost entirely eliminates this phenomena.
That said, the headphones used in this test doesn't look that great to me and probably would indeed suffer from it, although it looks like Jack tried to be careful with the cable.
Also, based on the subjects' experiences, especially Wheels, it seems like this either was no issue or they just played along with it.
Also they didn't use higher end wireless ones, I'm using simulated 5.1 surround sound wireless headphones Rather than blue tooth headphones.
Thank you! There are idiots who responded negatively to me for saying the test is flawed.
@@Timmyfox Better headphones tend to have flat cables for less chances of tangle but don't make much of a difference with line noise
But in reality Wired ones really gives best audio Bluetooth is just messed up and brands are forcing us to shift towards wireless even if we have to compromise on quality.
You just fell into a trap.
Of course you cant feel someone pulling on your headsets wire... Me and my crazy dreams...
The test was flawed ... I'll leave it at that.
+James May Thank you for your enlightening words. Now go away.
+Kevin Hall (KingKevinTheOne) fuck off
Job Done Right Why? Is it because you disagree with my personal opinion? Well that's very 'adult-like' of you. Since you insist, I'll stoop down to your pathetic level with this counter attack ... I'm rubber you're glue anything you say blah blah blah you know the rest.
There is no such thing as a flawed test, only results.
Dude whomever lied to you, must also be one helluva politician.
Very neat, great concept, but here are some improvement suggestions: Could've attached a cable to the wireless set to make it feel nearly identical on their heads. Publish your audio file properties, music app and source device. This should be pretty standard and completes the picture for viewers. Have them test multiple tracks, switching the order of the headphones.
Anthony got some new Wheels but forgot his Keys at home.
You win for today!
That's the beauty of wireless headphones with a wired option
The wire was touching them, so that's easy to tell. You should have tapped a wire to the wireless one that you let just dangle, so that wouldn't give it away. You should have also tapped a battery to the wired one, because of the weight difference.
I'm pretty sure the wireless headphones just have the option to plug a cable to them too for when the battery dies so they just use the same headphone everytime.
What you thought that they didnt think it through? Also keys completely notice the difference and said it was miffed*
What you thought that they didnt think it through? Also keys completely notice the difference and said it was miffed*
He accidently let the wire dangle against them when putting on the wireless headphones on purpose.
The decreased quality occurs because audio is not sent losslessly through the Bluetooth interface. It is re-encoded using a lossy codec to limit the bandwidth necessary to transmit the audio. Any time you re-encode audio, especially from a lossy format to another lossy format, there's a loss of fidelity.
If the audio data was streamed using a lossless format over the BT interface, there would likely not be any noticeable difference from the wired headphones. Unfortunately the existing standards for BT audio do not enable the use of lossless compression.
They could probably feel the slight nudge of that cable on the ear cup.
The result actually surprised me. I knew there was a performance disparity but I did not know it was this obvious. Great video, keep them coming.
Hello
It's true the difference is huge my Headset is wireless and wired so I have the option to swap to either the 2. When listening to music I use wired but when gaming I swap to wireless because I tend to snag my wires when playing. But the difference is huge when wired the sound is more clear and the highs and mids are spot on while on the wireless like they said it's a bit muffled.
The thing about doing these tests is it is very hard to tell the difference unless your hearing is 1. Really good and 2. You are good at memorizing noise profiles. You need really good hearing so you can find the very small differences. The moment you take off one headset and put in another your ears have already picked up the audio from your surroundings so you would need to be able to remember what the noise profile of the headset was.
It is so hard to explain this kind of stuff over text, and to be honest unless you have done some audio work or have good ears you really can’t tell the difference. Someone would need to create an adapter that can instantaneously change between cable and wireless. You can’t allow any pause or allow it to go quite. The moment it does your brain forgets the small differences.
I was just actually looking at some of the comments I don't care if they could feel the wire or not I just wanted to know if you could tell the difference in the quality of the sound perfect video thank you.
Wow. I have never seen this long and detailed argument in my life.
It depends on the dac, so basically the dac in the wireless version of that headphone clearly was worse than the dac where the wired headphones were connected to.
True and I think the dac in my sony xb70bt are better than I have ever heard through the headphone jack minus portable amps which I am unwilling to use
good quality wireless would be fine this headphones are just shit, bluetooth in general kinda sucks
you missed the most important piece of info:
what Bluetooth audio codec is being used?
SBC? aptx? aptx-hd? aac?
it might be easy to tell the diff between 3.5mm and SBC, but is it just as easy to tell the diff between 3.5mm and aptx-hd?
I would like to note that in all honesty, there is a difference, but a general consumer won't really care. Sure, I could have earbuds or over ear headphones, but if I'm jogging, that cable becomes a hazard. I'm fine with using my bluetooth stereo headphones; they play music enough for me to enjoy and I can answer phone calls while changing tracks. Yes, wired headsets also have this feature, but I've yet to see forward/back and non-analog volume control on them.
I think they could feel the wires near them.
It's all a matter of perspective - some people just don't have a clue or are not trained to hear the difference..
Wired for quality bluetooth for convenience.
The wire is touching them. Easy answers of course. Doesn't even need to hear the sound to make a decision lol
i was thinking about this the whole time. You stole my comment!
He tried to hold the wire off them and deliberately touched them with it while they were wearing the wireless one to negate that indicator
Lonewolf and the sliding of the cable in his hand surely had to introduce cable noise.
I probably would have attached a cable to the wireless set to remove the variable.
Lonewolf and the sliding of the cable in his hand surely had to introduce cable noise.
I probably would have attached a cable to the wireless set to remove the variable.
69nites He slide the cable on his hand and around on the desk for the wireless as well to try and mask it, as well as holding the wire so it never touched the person or (hopefully) they never even felt the slight tug of the wire being on one ear. But yea, leaving the wire plugged in may have been better but the way the headphones are made it may automatically disable wireless when you plug something into the slot. Who knows.
What does the eye massager do? I can't find any proper demo videos.
You just compared the amplifier in the phone with the amplifier in the headphone, ofc thats more noticeable then the loss over bluetooth.
You haven't put the link to the eye thing into the describtion. Where/What is it?
That was interesting to compare!
Now I wonder how things have changed 9 years later :P
Thanks for the video!
which version of bluetooth does that wireless headset have? that plays a huge part in sound quality.
Would have been nice to know what quality the original song was.
Bluetooth is still a limiting factor for wireless just in therms of throughput. Headphones with wireless proprietary technologies can be much better but can also interfere with other devices that use radio transmission.
i´m a audiophile (wannabe?) but i can hear the difference even from one wire to another wire, a high quality vs a low quality, for example, i mod my Panasonic RP-HTF259 to have plug in cable becase they bring like 5 metters of cable...and i started using a cheap unmarked cable and they sound pretty bad, i tryed with other cable unmarked... sound the same... but when i bought a LG cable of 1.8m long.. dammmmmnnnn the sound changes from day to night, using a Pionner console and a Fiio amp...
It's all the interference in the cheapo cable. A lot of people don't realize it, but electricity plays a HUGE role in the overall sound. For example using an amp to power headphones will make them sound better because more electricity (and better current of electricity) generally = better sound. However just upgrading the crap out of one thing may not necessarily improve the sound. Your signal is only as good as your worst piece, or connection. Could be the audio source, a cable, a speaker, or just about anything. You are on the right path young padawan!
Thanks you broder
enginesnblades A good way to improve the overall quallity of a sound cable is to make a coil around ferrite cores on both ends, there's a noticeable difference in the audio between a "standard" cable and cable shielded with ferrite.
I love it how none of you has basic electronics knowledge and all of you act like you can hear a difference. Its in your head.
Stefan Slobodanovski If you study music long enough your ear will begin to develop. You will begin to hear even the slightest difference in any sound. You know why guitarists want thier guitar to have certain wood? Simple, we can hear the difference! Most people listening to music have no idea when such a subtle this is changed but to a musician it's night and day. You simply dont have a developed ear, so you dont pick up on the subtle things. But yes it's in our head. Itd be strange to have ears anywhere else, imo.
Why was the wired test at the end have the wire unplugged?
Why wouldn't you use the same bluetooth headset and plug them in for the wired part?
You should have taped the cable to the wireless headphones, you can feel and hear when you pull the cable or just move it a little bit so they know instantly which are the wired headphones.
My issue is less quality and more lip sync issues, when on Bluetooth I see a delay in lips vs audio vs a wired connection where I don't .
Make sure the headphones Bluetooth supports aptX or uses proprietary wireless and its not an issue, regular Bluetooth is only designed with music in mind so can have ~100-200ms of latency.
I only get that issue when pairing my jbl xtreme and flip 3 speakers together
It would have been better to have the wired one using USB instead of 3.5mm because then they would both be using the inline soundcard, I would have also plugged a wire into the wireless ones on the headphone side and left it unplugged on the device side so they would feel the same as the wired pair (a wire is a pretty hard thing not to notice regardless of how carefully you hold it). More swaps with a random order would have been better too, one swap means even a complete guess has a 50% chance of being right.
Round 2 perhaps?
You gotta do a comparison with a bluetooth 4.0 wireless headset with a wired headset
Should have done a placebo effect kind of test and gone wired twice and see if they really could notice a difference
is it the same with earbuds? headsets are all about audio but buds are a little different
I can tell the difference. Just look to see if it has a wire.
^^
This is Genius, I never thought about this method :D
The cable isn't plugged in at 4:32 *****
However gently you hold the wire, Jack, if you pull even just a little, they can tell immediately.
Pulling and touching on a cable or cable touching the subject both sets should have some cable attached
What sucks more energy? Cable or bluetooth? Thanks
Can you run this back? Bluetooth 5.2 with aptX HD codec for the wireless.
of course you can tell a difference especially in media that have high sample rate. The wireless require to downsample the sound in order to reduce the bandwidth so that it matches the frequency
Is it just me or doesnt the cable transfer vibrations when he holds it and therefore gives it away? When i swing around with my cable i can clearly hear it.
Try again with BT 4.1 or Apt-X, probably won't be able to tell the difference. The Creative EVO headset is only BT 2.1.
No matter what version of Bluetooth. Speed is enough. The point is AMPLIFIER - built in headphone is weaker then in computer.
Алексей Фомин I don't use headphones on computers though as I do with portable devices which have a weaker amp/dac through headpone jack than bluetooth headphones
Wireless Headset Sucks With Sound But Are Very Good with the wireless computer setup !
Why on wheels third test did you notice the wires wasn’t plugged in ?
Nice video. The main reason lies in where the dac conversion is happening...
What about a car audio quality ? Bluetooth, Aux or USB??
I have wireless beats studio 2s and it's nice to use wireless for working out or cleaning etc. but there is a difference with Bluetooth vs wired. Bluetooth has a metallic/gritty sound and less depth to it, you don't get the same sense of space and impact. It sounds like voices are in your ear versus an inch or two away from your ear if that makes sense. Anyone else feel me?
Yea i understand ya. I love Bluetooth when it comes to interviews.
was the wire not plugged in on the last one
Do the test again and add a wire (with same stiffness etc) at same position on the wireless headphone shell. Then you don't need to take care touching and they can't FEEL the difference.
Why did you use different headphones? Why not confnecting the wiered to a bluetoooth reciver
There is another factor other then quality. The more bluetooth things you have the more interference you are creating and the harder to make connections and slower that connection will be. I've had to trouble shoot these situations where devices would not pair, until I had the person take the device away from all the others. Big issue? probably not. but I like to keep interference down. I have had a few situations were I could not connect to wi-fi with to many devices going. Once I had connection it was fine, but I could not get the initial connection.
I know the batteries on headphones aren’t too beefy and I’m not familiar with this model but wouldn’t this be slightly noticeable along with the obvious lack of a cable. Should have just used a wireless headphone that had a removable auxiliary option.
i think it depends on the quality of the track. Let say u hear flac format which is 20-30mb each tracks. In this case i believe the bluetooth signal wont able to send this much data to your bluetooth speaker/headset, so what they do, they compress the size of the data to the size that bluetooth can handle. If u hear to 128kbps mp3, i think u will hear less diffrence on the sound quality.
Yeah! For sure.
I already tested my Tracks Air with and without cable, and there is some difference.
it's also especially apparent when you got full range speakers with beefy amps and playing FLAC files
I have a bunch on wireless speakers and I always use the 3.5 jack. There's too much hissing on Bluetooth.
I know it's not really the same thing, but I can tell instantly when someone is calling from a bluethooth device, especially one in a car. With all the advancements in wireless tech nothing matches the call quality of a land line to land line connection. Cellphones have a noticeably higher lag when trying to have a conversation, and if both are also using a bluethooth headset the lag becomes so great it begins causing problems with always talking over each other.
With the 3.5mm, the music will be processed via the pc's sound card. But with the Bluetooth, the music will be processed via the headset's on-board soundcard. Hence the difference in sound.
If you use the usb connection, the sound will b processed by the headset instead. So maybe a usb vs Bluetooth would yield different results?
YES absolutely I have a Jbl flip which has wired and wireless connection options and it is very clear which is which
is it because of the headphones?
like different brands would be more better
this test should actually be conducted with video games because there should be minimal differences between wireless and wired when you're only listening to something. when you're playing games, you want your audio to be synced with the game video.
What's the reason for the difference? Will the iPhone 7, lacking it's headphone jack, have a better Bluetooth audio quality?
Bluetooth itself makes the difference
u9Nails no. and that's what is bullshit about Apple pushing wireless as it sounds shitty compared to wired.
N2KY Yet android has already done this before, and now is definitely jumping in the Train with Apple. More and more phones are doing this.
I don't know how much of the difference comes from one being battery operated or not, how much compromise was make to make it last longer
The battery has nothing to do with it, it is the data transfer medium that makes an impact
Wouldn't the test be more accurate if you used an external wireless receiver?
I have a pair of headphones that turn into wire when it is connected and there is a difference, a huge one like the wireless have weaker sound but when connected it sounds better
When shopping for bluetooth headphone, I would like to know how it sounds when bluetooth is off and just use wire. This is important to me because whenever practical I would like to use the cable for the following reasons:
1. Conserve internal battery power.
2. Conserve internal battery charging capability..
3. If the sound, when wired, is as good as any wire-only headphone with similar price, then I only need one headphone for home use and for commuting.
Its crazy how wireless Headphones go for like 100-150$, while wired ones go for like 30-40$ while even being a lot better than wireless ones.
I personally did a test like this as well some time ago, and im gonna be honest, I barely noticed a difference with the Music, however when watching Movies or playing Games, thats when the Audio compression from the Bluetooth Headphones really kicked in.
I have a pair of IE80 and i have a bluetooth wireless cable for them using my note 8 with flac files i can tell the difference instantly. the wireless connection has less bass and the lyrics of the track are muffled its more like a vibration motor compared to the high end audio they usually produce. with the original ie80 cable theres more bass and lyrics are clear
Can't talk about blu-tooth or however you write that, but I have wireless Sennheiser headphones. Of course, when I work with Audio, I always use wired headphones, but for just normal use (RUclips, other PC stuff...) it is just more comfortable. I can go get a drink while still listening to my stuff, because real wireless headphones work on a larger range. All in all Wireless is pretty amazing, but not something to consider if it is important to have superior audio (like a content producer).
im not sure how this is but i have AKG Y45bt headset. its louder bluetooth mode than it is cable. i contacted AKG and they said yes the bluetooth mode is louder. so to me bluetooth is the better way and sounds good in my headset.
OK but question does wired or wireless use more power?
todd w I think wireless uses more power because your Bluetooth/nfc use up a bit power
If you're using bluetooth wireless then the digital audio processing is done on the bluetooth headphones and the output is as good as your headphones (meaning with bluetooth headphones, you do not need a sound card or audio processor on your PC). If you're using 3.5mm wired, the digital audio processing is done on the sound card or the audio processor inside your PC and it is being output to the 3.5mm. In my case, my bluetooth headphones are limited to 48 Khz sampling rate at 328 kbps. While using 3.5mm fed by my PC audio processor I get 192 Khz @ 32-bits. I definitely notice the difference between bluetooth and 3.5mm wired.
You could tell completely without a doubt even if you had no experience with wired/wireless once a song changes due to the lag between them which is which, or more like buffer is what wireless feels like.
WHAT DO U CALL THE 3.5 HEAD PHONE JUCK
heck yeah you can tell the difference between wired and wireless..easy..especially when it comes to clarity and sound separation. Bluetooth has almost no sound separation at all, it's just muddy and muffled
Maybe with a good amp which most mobile devices(smartphones,etc) don't have but most consumers don't use external amps. I grabbed both models of sony extra bass earbuds xb70bt and xb50ap and the bluetooth version sounded better to me than wired(without an external amp)
i think you should ask them immediately after each headphone test and choose the headphone randomly. Not just the first one is wired and the second one is wireless. Also 2 headphone test for each is not enough, maybe you should do 10 for each person and choose the headphone to test randomly.
this is a good test. wished you had more test subjects
Disclosure? that was super unexpected, love it
is the audio off on this or is it just me?
The real difference is in the sound delay that comes from bluetooth. You don't notice that when listening to a song, but you can see/hear it when playing a game or a virtual instrument, or even watching a movie.
I would go with RF (radio frequency) headphones.
I don't notice any lag with my playstation vita and sony xb70bt earbuds or jbl xtreme and charge 3 speakers unless I have the jbl speakers connected together via the connect feature
Wired keyboard and mouse FTW!
***** wireless=more latency
***** yeah for sure, especially when you have a lot of radio interference, or have low battery, or have to plug in the keyboard often to charge it. Then that becomes several minutes of delay.
My key presses feel so muffled with wireless /sarcasm
Deathbrewer
FPS games are shit with wireless mice.
*****
Go get a proteus core then tell me that your mouse is better
Am I somehow living under a rock for not ever hearing of an eye massager? That seems like it would be extremely painful.
Who is the new one named Anthony?
This experiment should not be considered as a final answer to wired vs wireless.
This experiment should be just be considered as a comparison between these two specific headphones.
I still love the freedom of being able to keep my headset on while taking a piss. even if the signal of the g930 often cuts off in the kitchen.
Where did u find theses people
Circus?
I tbh have everything wired, I just hate having to charge things our get batteries for them, also I always feel like performance is better when it's wired rather than wireless, though one thing I hate about wired and I hate this with a burning passion is that after time the connection can come lose and this happens to me ALL the time with bloody everything, so if there were a way to incorporate wireless charging into wireless devices I'd totally go wireless for most things excluding headphones.
This test is obsolete now because we have qualcom aptx, aptx hd, ldac, along with new bluetooth 5.0. I guarantee it's very hard to notice a difference now.
Bluetooth also has this weired pitch effects when you move away a bit from the device and keep moving around. Also happened in my pocket all the time and i started hating the Bluetooth Headshpones and switched back to the best headphones in the world, my Sennheiser CX-300-II.
Even thou the dont have a badass sound when plugging them in, the have no limit in resolution and never override, meaning you can equalize how you want and still have an awesome clear sound.
Realistically my guess is that it may be from interferance from other devices, such as a mobile phone, wireless mouse, or any other device which may just be using a radio... I think that would explain how it's not really easy to tell the difference, but if you listen carefully, you will notice. Very cool video though! :)
Recently my brother's girlfriend brought home a wireless sound bar from Samsung. When we used it with Bluetooth it was horrible, but as soon as we plugged in some wires it became amazing.
I guess it's because of the limited range, compression and vulnerability to interference that cause Bluetooth to lose quality. Also the low-quality DACs and amplifiers on many portable devices.
Must be a brand thing rather than bluetooth unless the device is old, when they have come out with some high res certified bluetooth devices My sony xb70bt sound awesome/better and louder on playstation vita slim than the corded version I tried xb50ap and my jbl xtreme sounds just as good through bluetooth or wired to me. I am unwilling to use a portable amp with corded headphones which may level the playing field though
Wait why they call Riley keys
Aside from poor testing, it is impossible for wireless to sound as good as wired. Wireless can only utilize Compressed formats, where wired can utilize uncompressed formats.
ever heard of lossless codec? and ya they do exist
Richard Bijlhout - Blu-tooth cannot utilize lossless codecs, at least not yet and most likely never will. I think you just might not know what you're talking about.
Do soms research before saying somthing you dont know!
Bt can do any codec you like as the hardware dev, its Just a tx-rx ( at a speed) (and ya i know there are stack's etc but Just keep it simple and count) connect a soc (or build one like qualcomm did with aptx-HD soc ) that does harddecode of Flac your done.
Bit rate average MAX 1000kbits , and your saying noooooo owww nooooo bt cant go even 1000kbs thats is like so inpossible nooooooo...
Welcom to 2017 my friend. Like 5 years to late but your here at last 😶
Get your self a aptx HD headset witch Will alow lossless where the speed is optimal
Comical. Did you just make this up as you went along? Would you care to make a little wager?
Mark Alan dude belief in your own way stay in your version is best for you keep it like that
Think you should have used wireless headphones that have a 3.5mm Jack in case the battery dies. In case there was a manufacturing difference between the two.
Why are there so many asias in canada?
NeoChromer Seriously though, how is it possible if Asia is much bigger than Canada?
Vancouver is on the west coast and was a city that took in many refugees from Vietnam during the 70s
Is there a problem btw? Why didn't you question about Caucasian living in Asia?
Because there are like 2 Caucasians living in China while millions from China live in Canada, whats why
NeoChromer. How many racists around the world?
For your next test plug the USB cable so that way they will feel cable on both.
My tablet is Atmos digital and i bought headphones which i can definitely hear the difference from Bluetooth. Not on RUclips tho.
Compare 7.1 Virtual Surround with Razer Tiamat 7.1 true surround, cheers
i far prefer wired, but the huge factor in this is the DAC. On wired, it uses the DAC that is it plugged into, wireless has a DAC built into the headset. You're most likely going to get a better DAC elsewhere than on the headset itself, so that is why wired will win almost every time.