the plastic shit they make today is no match for old school metal..the thing about that chevy is you can rebuild the whole truck at minimal cost lol..props to the young guy keeping it real!
True, & thats just it, the older trucks (dont matter the brand, i love em all) you can go in with a bit less fear bc its paid for, and if you do happen to bump something, or rub against something, there will be less damage, and itll be cheaper to fix. I simply prefer the less is more style when it comes to vehicles. Thank you for a legit, grown up response btw
Exactly. Pay 50k, in 6 months it aint worth half that. Mind you, im not against technology in general, i just think theres too much nonsense in these vehicles today. Hell, i think that old chev could benefit greatly from a simple bolt on Holley (or equivalent) efi system. Having installed one on an old 3rd gen f body with the 305, it was a totally different animal. Throttle response, mileage, cold starting, it all improved. hell, it even felt a bit more powerful too lol.
Bottom line, older trucks were designed from the get go to work and go off road. New trucks are designed to pass emmisions, meet safety standards, ride comfortable on the highway, handle well on the highways, and a few of them have some off road tech thrown in as well. Unlike older trucks that off road tech is competing with tons of other factors. That's why you see old trucks doing things with open diffs that new trucks are needing lockers for.
You can't blame Ford, Roman, they tell you right up front what the problem with their vehicles is. They even circle it and highlight it in blue so you can't miss it.
Red Horse Shut up lmaoo. but he admitted he didnt gas it up that hill because there still making payments on the raptor, it and the Chevy are there personal vehicles
Andrew Walker wow everybody knows that a Ford Raptor in the snow would have backed off of both of the trees if he would have guessed it I know from experience not because I want to give lip service
tires play a big role my buddy has a raptor and its a beast in snow deep snow like oswego county tug hill snow unstoppable with the right tire for the conditions my 05 chevy trailblazer would have ate both them truck up going up that very minimal amount of snowy incline
Jatmomdad JT in theory that was gonna be a good engine until it was dynoed and only made 433hp and 401 lbs ft torque but there was a 535 ford v8 in the early 80s
I like all the convenience the Raptor has, but I'd take Big Green for its simplicity. Tons of parts out for it, engine swap isn't a big deal for it compared the Raptor, and it has solid axles.
Clorox Bleach True. They were comparing a $60k truck with all the electronic bells and whistles to a truck that could be bought for around $5k with nothing special in it. I'd prefer old green with just the idea that it has much more potential IMO to do much more without warranties getting in the way with costs compared to the Raptor. The Raptor is a very nice truck, but for the cost I wouldn't do much of what these guys were doing in it.
You turn traction control off then the raptor would have went right up the hill. Keeping traction control on was detrimental when going up the snow incline because right when it detects wheelspin it's going to limit power and not allow the wheels to spin essentially making the truck come to a stop. Right when the wheels started to spin he was stopped in his tracks.. Lmao If they turn traction control off that Raptor with 400-plus horsepower would have an annihilated that little bit of a snow incline!
Hauler Scraper Soul meaning, heritage, style,more steel than plastic and just an all around badass look helps out too. It's more of a machine than the Raptor and requires more from the driver
+adam2000z Now we're talkin,you could build two kick ass square bodies for the cost of the Raptor and have so much beer money that it'd take away the pain of knowing you once owned a Ford,lol! Sorry,had to say it..I really don't have anything against Ford.
Bob Falfa You can easily build two Chevy's for the cost of one raptor. They'd both have 1 ton running gear with lockers, winches and body armor too. A better deal all the way around.
Liemciemdk89 or you could just carry your momentum like he did with big green lol. even crawling the raptor did better than green until he drove it into a ditch
Liemciemdk89 here in CO Raptors build value. Hell, a buddy of mine has one that has appreciated 2500 since he bought it. I still am partial to old school trucks though.
You can't beat a real manual transmission with lockers and good tires. These new computer controlled 4x4's always stop each tire depending on what tire is slipping and lose momentum when you really just need the slow turning wheels to keep going. The ridgeline suffered bad from that in this video.
Too bad that thin metal, off the deep end. overpriced. fragile short lived "beautiful " truck will probably be in the shop more than on the road. I'll take that tough looking old go Chevy any day!
you guys took the chevy up it with speed and the ford at super low speed. Take the ford and chevy up at the same speed to make it fair! What a joke video. Dodge beat them all!
It was fair like it was because when you have a $30K+ vehicle you are less likely to do drive it like you don't mind if it slides into a tree or ditch. Then there's that other factor, tires. It could be that the Ford, with different tires, couldn't make it up the hill as fast even if they tried to do so.
this dude is a total joke all his videos are the same not willing to go above and beyond to show the potential of each truck lol he doesnt want to take risks thats the whole point of doing this
Chevy should have stayed with the Corporate 10-Bolt Front Axle and that 4-Speed Muncie with the Low-Low just CANNOT be outmatched even to this day. I have the K20 (3/4 Ton) 454 with the 14-Bolt Full Floater Rear Axle and that thing is 450Lbs. of bulletproof machinery especially the Factory Eaton Locker version.
The raptor weighs 2,000 lbs more. If you hit it with speed the extra weight would work against you while turning the corner and you would probably slide off anyway.
Free Thinker think I remember another video where the raptor got stuck because of its width. Probably the same here. Roman didn't want to gun it through that tight spot. Raptor barely fits and it still has payments on it. Chevy is a lil narrower so there was some wiggle room to gun it threw. Maybe that was it? Or maybe something else, idk? Definitely a good old truck, thing was climbing all over that hill without much difficulty.
Honestly, I love the older 70's chev K10, K20 or K30 4WD trucks. They have good engines that are easy to work on and the body style is nice. A friend of mine had a 79 K10 short bed with a 400 small block 35 inch tires and man that truck was a torque monster. I had a 78 with a 454 that had even more torque. Love those old big chevy engines.
I'd take the Chevy any day. I've had a couple of them. The Chevy wins on all fronts, and it's shortcomings are easily addressed. First, the Chevy has 2 doors, like a proper truck should have. I have no use for a 4 door taxi cab when it comes to trucks. Second, the Chevy has a solid front axle and leaf springs, far tougher than the independent suspension crap on the Ford. Third, the Chevy has a simple low tech carbureted engine, easy to work on, and can be easily modified to get all the power you want, while still keeping it simple. There are a zillion aftermarket steering, suspension, and drivetrain parts available for the Chevy, and it can be worked on by the average enthusiast. And lastly, it just plain looks way better. And I am not brand loyal. I've had both older Chevy's and Fords. An old carbureted Ford 2 door standard cab with the Twin-I-Beam front suspension is also simple and tough. If you want a zillion doors, get a limo. Oh, and technology SUCKS, especially electronic technology.
The literally stupidest comment I have ever read.. Technology sucks while I watch this on my Macbook, through wifi, on the internet, in my air conditioned,securited systemed home.
My dad had a 1962 Bel Air Chevy with a 283 that was a bit modified. Not a racer but just a little more grunt. It had a welded rear end that allowed both wheels to drive. No peg legging. Anyhow....were out on a shooting trip one day. Were driving through riverbeds and light to medium brush. Were on these old military trails in Missouri. So there we are. Old car full of guns, old trail roads and creek beds. We round a bend and were looking for this place thats popular to shoot at. There is a guy out there, in the boonies, waving us down. Hes stuck just a bit away and says he needs a lift to a tow truck. Keep in mind, this is in the 90's. Cell phones werent a thing yet. My dad tells him were good and to show him where hes stuck. We go out to a river bed. There it is. Buried up to the mid tire in mud and brown water. A Ford Ranger that needed rescuing. We hooked a bit of chain up to a thick braid of rope that the dude had in his truck. Pulled him right out. I think technology has a way of making things more prone to failure in difficult times. The Ranger then, the Raptor in this video. Ive rescued a few cars with my old Tahoe. Its funny that a person pokes fun at yer older vehicle and then you smirk knowing the amount of newer piles you saved with said "antique". Nice vid. I like that old Chevy.
Agreed the dude was taking it nice and slow up a snow incline. If he would've hit the gas and given the steering some play he'd probably make it up. Oh well I guess his tech really saved his poor driving skills
I have an 85 Dodge 4x4 pick-up and an 89 Ramcharger LE. Guess who neighbors call when they get their 50k fancy trucks stuck? Also have an 86 GMC Jimmy that pulls almost as well. No issues with any of them as they are well maintained. Simplicity not Technology rules the day.
Ramius Aiden I had an 85 d150 and I spent more time fixing it than driving it. Really clean truck but the whole drive train was cursed. Every brand has its lemons, some just have a little more than others
I had a 78' k25 suburban, never had any troubles with Colorado terrain, only mods I had on the 350 was a slightly larger intake, 4bbl 650cfm carb, and a mild cam, 300hp 400 lb-ft torque, great truck and I miss it.
If you put an LS in it, people would bitch that it wasn't carbureted. If you Turbo'd it, they would bitch that it wasn't a supercharger. Personally, I think it needs a Cummins. But then again, doesn't everything?
Gilbert McGillicutty my old 85 K-10 has its original 305 still my daily driver put all that new crap in it and it's not an old truck anymore I can fix just about anything on my truck with some duct tape and garden hose.
kcald1843 I would do the swap just because I find it embarrassing that a v8 makes less power than a 4.3. My buddy has an 08 4.3 wt and it is the most gutless truck I have ever driven. My 5.3 runs absolute circles around it.
Great video guys. I live right by Bandimere and it's awesome seeing local guys going to places I frequent as well. I keep hoping to run into you guys one of these days. Anyways keep up the good work!
Donald Weber evidently you think newer trucks are built better then the70s and early 80s pickups,you must not use them for work, or you just drive around in one cuz it's fashionable
willis arnald my daily driver is a 1985 Chevy K10 with the original motor I love it you're right I think the older vehicles were just made with better quality and so much cheaper and easier to work on.
Brian Samuels well it's what I like to waste my money on. Besides I have a family and my super duty is just perfect. It has everything I need. A big v8, 4×4 and all the other fancy stuff I need for my family.
But people eat them up, they are all over the place. And they were both in four high, one was a low gear probably running in first gear, the other was a manual in low (or first) gear.
+Stephen English I don't know anything about the Raptor, or Chevy but this video didn't prove anything about old being better than new. The only thing where old is a clearly better, is simplicity and therefore easy maintenance, that people can do by himselves. But on every other thing, it depends of the vehicle and model in comparison, is the new version better or worse on some narrow field. Then fields where new ones are clearly better, are things like usability, safety, ergonomy, etc. For example off road performance wise, can't make any rule based on age. The vehicles vary so much. Choose the right vehicle, and no matter is it 2016 or 1952, it is going to be great off road.
I got 1978 Scottsdale k10 with original 350 motor manuel locking hubs front and rear, always pulling out newer trucks with it during the winter season, I'll never get rid of it, and I never been stuck with it.
I sold my 85 K5 (fleet pkg ) Blazer a cpl years ago. It was a former Santa Monica search/rescue truck. 305 wasn't that powerful, but the stability and traction made up for it all. Plus you could comfortably sleep 3-4 people in it when u go camping. Huge interior space. Best $2000 I ever spent! Drivers didn't road rage me much in that bad boy.
Am blaming his driving skill .. did anyone saw how different both of them in going up that hill ? chevy driver is was better he went straight and fast while the raptor driver decided to take it 1 cm at a time I am a ford fan, but this had to be said
lolwut, the gears mean nothing. Wheels go the *same* speed at well... a set speed. All gearing does here is give you power... if anything the chevy was getting alot MORE wheel spin, 4 high but granny gear? omg... da rpm at low speed. ALSO It aint the skill it's the COST... you aint gona bang up a 70k toy truck you will bang up a 5k truck...
Pat lol I would love to see a ridge line take half the shit that my 1500 version of andres truck has took. And I am not one bit surprised that a guy like you is so interested in other people's penises.
Pat I always get a laugh out of the people who make the "tiny penis compensation" comments when they try to talk down to people who like big trucks, or just trucks in general. It really tells you more about the insecurity of the person making the penis comment than it does about the truck person said comment is directed at. Seriously, you don't know this person, you don't even know if this person has a truck. And if he does have a truck, you do not even know how he uses it, what type of duties he needs it for, nor is it any of your business. People have their preferences, especially when it comes to cars and trucks, and despite your desire to deflect your own insecurities onto them through petty comments, those preferences rarely, if ever, have anything to do with compensating for one's lack of adequate genetalia.
Pat Oh the irony... The person who automatically jumped to a stereotype without knowing anything about the individual, and whose mind went straight to penis jokes, is done with this conversation because the other person "can't even hold a proper conversation", lol. Yeah, keep showing your arse mate.
Odd, you seem far more insecure than the average owner of a real truck, and obviously you DO care what other people think or else you wouldn't be here trying to convince us that you're Mr, Know It All with his even less practical truck because it can't do truck duties as well and because - and this is the ironic part - it will have already buckled in two from the unibody frame rusting out before it gets to the age of the Chevy in the video, if used in snow. What you really mean is that YOU, not other people, have no real use for a pickup and are just a poser or else you would pick one more qualified for truck duty. Also let me give you a hint about towing. You don't buy a truck capable of 5000lbs to tow 5000lbs. That is only the MAX rating, not the rating you want to have if you like a cool running transmission, if you like your rear end to stay planted during windy highway travel, and you'd like your rear suspension to not start sagging prematurely. Obviously you don't have a clue what makes a practical truck. Hint: Trying to be more like a flimsy car IS NOT IT. A pickup truck is a fine daily driver. If you have some mental problem that prevents you using it equally well compared to any other vehicle, that is your handicap, not the handicap of someone who wasn't tricked into buying a flimsy econo box with a bed in back.
Pat And the irony and hypocrisy continue... Again, as has been the case since you're initial comment, you are making assumptions and generalizations without knowing anything about the individual. First off, I don't own a pickup truck. I own a Chevy HHR and a Mazda Miata. I don't need a truck, hence, I do not own one. 95% eh? Citation needed. You can't just go around throwing numbers like that around without factual data to back it up. Here's some facts that I know. I live in Indiana, lots of farms around here, and guess what, most of the people I know that own trucks, and there's a lot around here, actually use them for heavy duty work, whether it be farm work, construction, or for hauling boats or trailers. Yes, there are people that just buy trucks and use them as daily drivers, but the percentage that don't use them for heavy work or hauling is a lot lower than you think. Even if they do, what business is it of yours? Here's something I have learned from personal experience. My cousin has 2009 Ridgeline. It's nice, sure, but he is constantly having to borrow his brother's Silverado to do stuff his Ridgeline cannot do. Not only that, but his brother's Silverado gets better gas mileage. You also go on to ironically tell me to stop caring about what other people think, yet you seem to be overly concerned with how truck owners use their vehicles. If being overzealous and judgemental while also being an insecure mangina who uses terms like "triggered" is your idea of a real man, then you can have the title. You are right, people should do and buy what they like without caring what others think, but you contradict that by being judgmental of those who do just that, if what THEY want isn't what you think they should have. Do you see the error in your logic? Also, something doesn't become a fact just because you state it as such. Oh, and I'm not "triggered", I'm actually quite amused by your lack of common sense.
I used to be a die hard TFL subscriber with notifications, but these videos are getting harder and harder to watch. Everything is so staged and artificial. Sure they were in a relatively difficult environment, but if the drivers would actually DRIVE instead of questioning their abilities, everyone would've made it to the top.
+Charlie Adolf, III thanks for your comment but none of this is staged. Unlike reality TV and Top Gear and Grand Tourer we don't stage anything. What you see in the video is exactly what happened when we tried to go up GMH in the snow.
The Fast Lane Truck I appreciate your response, and I suppose I should've thought about it a bit more before I commented. I have no doubt at all that the environment is real. It's just that something seems different than the old TFL videos.
Kolby Slife I feel this comparison boiled down to driver incompetence. the raptor is a beast but it was riding on skinny little tires where the Chevy had a lift and bug off road tires
I took that old 305ci out of my Chevy and dropped in a 97Vortec 350ci 5.7 with Edelbrock Performer 650carb till I installed the MultiPort EFI which was awesome far as fuel economy and power and all around gains but that Edelbrock carb never failed to cold start once it was beast plus I installed 4"of lift ran 35-12.50-15 swamper TSL Radials and a ARB air locker front and rear with 4:10Gears with the 350Turbo Transmission it was solid as hell I miss that old truck to this day
I'm not a hardcore off roader but here is my opinion guys. Like anything else in many times it all comes down to the driver and good old fashioned luck. New rig or old rig you get a guy who knows what he's doing and gets some good traction and all is good as gold. As for myself I have an "old" 99 F150 and would much rather fix up my 78 Jimmy for any type of real off road adventures.
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the plastic shit they make today is no match for old school metal..the thing about that chevy is you can rebuild the whole truck at minimal cost lol..props to the young guy keeping it real!
Old will always be 100000999 better
two lessons...#1, older trucks are better, #2, newer trucks arent worth their asking price
Meh, driving style helps too
True, & thats just it, the older trucks (dont matter the brand, i love em all) you can go in with a bit less fear bc its paid for, and if you do happen to bump something, or rub against something, there will be less damage, and itll be cheaper to fix. I simply prefer the less is more style when it comes to vehicles. Thank you for a legit, grown up response btw
William Singer new vehicles are definitely not worth the asking price. like where exactly is the 50,000 dollars hiding
That is true, I think it's ridiculous that some dealers are asking $50K+ for TRD PRO Tacoma's.
Exactly. Pay 50k, in 6 months it aint worth half that. Mind you, im not against technology in general, i just think theres too much nonsense in these vehicles today. Hell, i think that old chev could benefit greatly from a simple bolt on Holley (or equivalent) efi system. Having installed one on an old 3rd gen f body with the 305, it was a totally different animal. Throttle response, mileage, cold starting, it all improved. hell, it even felt a bit more powerful too lol.
Bottom line, older trucks were designed from the get go to work and go off road. New trucks are designed to pass emmisions, meet safety standards, ride comfortable on the highway, handle well on the highways, and a few of them have some off road tech thrown in as well. Unlike older trucks that off road tech is competing with tons of other factors. That's why you see old trucks doing things with open diffs that new trucks are needing lockers for.
@akilla4reala669I second that
Those heated seats and searing wheel will come in handy while waiting for the tow truck...
If that even works
Which wheel sears what?
Epic comment.
ill take the k10.
Yep. Me too.
It was an advertising of K10 :)
All day brother
one does not simply drive a 80s truck(weither it be ford,chevy,dodge,toyota,etc) and not feel/look like a badass
josh nalepa Agreed 100%!
josh nalepa fuck yeah, I daily drive an 88 Toyota with a flatbed
Peter Lund that doesn't count.
Tyler Clark, total buzz kill man
armadillo platypus that's for trucks lifted like 10in and 40in tires. This one is fine lol
You can't blame Ford, Roman, they tell you right up front what the problem with their vehicles is. They even circle it and highlight it in blue so you can't miss it.
Red Horse Shut up lmaoo. but he admitted he didnt gas it up that hill because there still making payments on the raptor, it and the Chevy are there personal vehicles
Andrew Walker wow everybody knows that a Ford Raptor in the snow would have backed off of both of the trees if he would have guessed it I know from experience not because I want to give lip service
Red Horse ha ha, that's good. I used to love ford's rite up to 96. 97 their trucks turned to shit.
tires play a big role my buddy has a raptor and its a beast in snow deep snow like oswego county tug hill snow unstoppable with the right tire for the conditions my 05 chevy trailblazer would have ate both them truck up going up that very minimal amount of snowy incline
Red Horse atleast our logo doesn't look like a tampon.
Bottom line: Raptor pulls Ridgeline, Old School Chevy pulls Raptor. Who's your daddy? LOL
30+ years later the Chevy is still on the road. The Ford, won't
mcinkyt - yeah, one of how many
Eric Cartman a 460 oh wait chevy only has a 454
Jatmomdad JT in theory that was gonna be a good engine until it was dynoed and only made 433hp and 401 lbs ft torque but there was a 535 ford v8 in the early 80s
390merc65 i already mentioned the 534 and thats not after market but going after market the moon in the limit
Of course you can use the Chevy as a winch anchor point, it's like a rock.
AcesNSpades Nice pun.
Nice. I remember the old Chevy commercials and their slogan, "like a rock"👍
I see what ya did there lol
I wanna like but it's too perfect 😏🤣😝
I like all the convenience the Raptor has, but I'd take Big Green for its simplicity. Tons of parts out for it, engine swap isn't a big deal for it compared the Raptor, and it has solid axles.
Me too. Old school all the way.
Clorox Bleach Old Green still made it up. Also pulled the Raptor out.
Clorox Bleach True. They were comparing a $60k truck with all the electronic bells and whistles to a truck that could be bought for around $5k with nothing special in it. I'd prefer old green with just the idea that it has much more potential IMO to do much more without warranties getting in the way with costs compared to the Raptor. The Raptor is a very nice truck, but for the cost I wouldn't do much of what these guys were doing in it.
Backyardmech1 and no emission issues
You turn traction control off then the raptor would have went right up the hill. Keeping traction control on was detrimental when going up the snow incline because right when it detects wheelspin it's going to limit power and not allow the wheels to spin essentially making the truck come to a stop. Right when the wheels started to spin he was stopped in his tracks.. Lmao If they turn traction control off that Raptor with 400-plus horsepower would have an annihilated that little bit of a snow incline!
I'd take the square body,no question about it. The Raptor is a nice truck but it has no soul.
Hauler Scraper Soul meaning, heritage, style,more steel than plastic and just an all around badass look helps out too. It's more of a machine than the Raptor and requires more from the driver
Bob Falfa Raptor is just awkward looking.
+Nucl3ar Family I kinda like the older style of the Raptor when it first came out,it wasn't so bad but as it's went on it just gotten worse and worse.
+adam2000z Now we're talkin,you could build two kick ass square bodies for the cost of the Raptor and have so much beer money that it'd take away the pain of knowing you once owned a Ford,lol! Sorry,had to say it..I really don't have anything against Ford.
Bob Falfa You can easily build two Chevy's for the cost of one raptor. They'd both have 1 ton running gear with lockers, winches and body armor too. A better deal all the way around.
If Roman didn't drive like such a grandma he would have made it too.
Love how the 30 year old truck shows up the new and really expensive *off road* Ford truck.
Why did they bring a Honda mini van up there?
Benjamin Griffith I think it was doing the filming. I dk for sure though.
I'd rather have the 80's truck.
With heat
let's see if that rinky-dink plastic Raptor is still charging hills like a boss when it's 32 years old
Jon the Roofer you’re an idiot
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@@letitsnow3212 His comment is completely valid and fair. Im getting the feeling you're just bitch made.
Them old Chevys are tough looking trucks. So simple And durable.
old school wins to hell with your 60% depreciation New Trucks
Liemciemdk89 i have a raptor i can tell you they hold there value
Liemciemdk89 or you could just carry your momentum like he did with big green lol. even crawling the raptor did better than green until he drove it into a ditch
Liemciemdk89 here in CO Raptors build value. Hell, a buddy of mine has one that has appreciated 2500 since he bought it. I still am partial to old school trucks though.
You can't beat a real manual transmission with lockers and good tires. These new computer controlled 4x4's always stop each tire depending on what tire is slipping and lose momentum when you really just need the slow turning wheels to keep going. The ridgeline suffered bad from that in this video.
bear123 I just press a button to turn that shit off. That being said my 85 Ford Bronco XLT would be my choice when I need a truck to be a truck.
This video just proofs basic works and high tect is just to get your money at the dealership.
frankcastle7777 lets see them pull 8,000 lbs up the Ike gauntlet with the chevy or jump 3 feet at 60 mph or crash and everyone walk away
JEREMIAH'S TRUCK CHANNEL well if they invested $20,000 into the Chevy it would destroy that piece of shit Ford
+Michael Cavalieri yeah but then you're at about the same price point as the new truck
Long live vintage iron. I love that '85 K10.
S.T.E.E.L.
Too bad that thin metal, off the deep end. overpriced. fragile short lived "beautiful " truck will probably be in the shop more than on the road. I'll take that tough looking old go Chevy any day!
The Ridgeline isn't a truck, it's an SUV with a birth defect.
Kaleb Wagner it's the Bruce Jenner of trucks...
The Ridgeline is an abomination. A crime against humanity.
Kaleb Wagner Good legitimate reason
Regardless of the results, I'd still rather have Big Green over the Raptor, no contest.
Fun video! Merry Christmas TFL Crew!! Thank you for your vids!!
+rackman1n2 Thank you. Merry Christmas to you as well.
you guys took the chevy up it with speed and the ford at super low speed. Take the ford and chevy up at the same speed to make it fair! What a joke video. Dodge beat them all!
It was fair like it was because when you have a $30K+ vehicle you are less likely to do drive it like you don't mind if it slides into a tree or ditch.
Then there's that other factor, tires. It could be that the Ford, with different tires, couldn't make it up the hill as fast even if they tried to do so.
this dude is a total joke all his videos are the same not willing to go above and beyond to show the potential of each truck lol he doesnt want to take risks thats the whole point of doing this
Just bought a 2014 f-150 and this convinced me to keep my 83 GMC with a 4" lift.
Chevy should have stayed with the Corporate 10-Bolt Front Axle and that 4-Speed Muncie with the Low-Low just CANNOT be outmatched even to this day. I have the K20 (3/4 Ton) 454 with the 14-Bolt Full Floater Rear Axle and that thing is 450Lbs. of bulletproof machinery especially the Factory Eaton Locker version.
They, the corp, where WEAK axels just looking to break. Same with the factory posi in the 14, if you mean the gov lock, what a piece of junk!
but see he went up the hill with speed. the raptor just tried to inch its way up
it would have made it if it had more speed and another go. but then again, the raptor is bigger/wider so they might not have wanted to risk it
The raptor weighs 2,000 lbs more. If you hit it with speed the extra weight would work against you while turning the corner and you would probably slide off anyway.
Free Thinker think I remember another video where the raptor got stuck because of its width. Probably the same here. Roman didn't want to gun it through that tight spot. Raptor barely fits and it still has payments on it. Chevy is a lil narrower so there was some wiggle room to gun it threw. Maybe that was it? Or maybe something else, idk? Definitely a good old truck, thing was climbing all over that hill without much difficulty.
Free Thinker it doesn't matter, he could have got up in the Raptor trust me
That is true the momentum made the difference
That chevy looks better then that raptor any day.
Anthony Guzman nothing looks better than a raptor
Juanito Skillz yes sir a Prius
Anthony Guzman yea them squat bodies are bad ass
Agreed!
( according to you)
At 4:47 you can clearly see the ridge line waiting behind tommy to go up. So much for the surprise 😂😂
Would choose the Chevy over the raptor any day.
Same here.
Honestly, I love the older 70's chev K10, K20 or K30 4WD trucks. They have good engines that are easy to work on and the body style is nice. A friend of mine had a 79 K10 short bed with a 400 small block 35 inch tires and man that truck was a torque monster. I had a 78 with a 454 that had even more torque. Love those old big chevy engines.
had a 1986 gmc 3500 350 4speed 4low and grandma you could go through anything
yea i want a 72 C10 for my b day
Not a chance id take the raptor for sure then sell that turd and buy a couple square bodys
because the raptor is a girls truck.
Merry Christmas to all of you guys and family's
+craigsclocks Thank you. Merry Christmas!
I'd take the Chevy any day. I've had a couple of them. The Chevy wins on all fronts, and it's shortcomings are easily addressed. First, the Chevy has 2 doors, like a proper truck should have. I have no use for a 4 door taxi cab when it comes to trucks. Second, the Chevy has a solid front axle and leaf springs, far tougher than the independent suspension crap on the Ford. Third, the Chevy has a simple low tech carbureted engine, easy to work on, and can be easily modified to get all the power you want, while still keeping it simple. There are a zillion aftermarket steering, suspension, and drivetrain parts available for the Chevy, and it can be worked on by the average enthusiast. And lastly, it just plain looks way better. And I am not brand loyal. I've had both older Chevy's and Fords. An old carbureted Ford 2 door standard cab with the Twin-I-Beam front suspension is also simple and tough. If you want a zillion doors, get a limo. Oh, and technology SUCKS, especially electronic technology.
Gerald Scott I'd take the Raptor, sell it then build a bad as Chevy and have $ to spare.
Oxyrisen lol very true, throw a nice hi revving big block in the chevy and put a bottle on it, still a fraction of the price
Gerald Scott like those idiots who like 4 door jeeps. A jeep is supposed to be a plain simple off-roading vehicle not a fancy chrysler limousine.
The literally stupidest comment I have ever read..
Technology sucks while I watch this on my Macbook, through wifi, on the internet, in my air conditioned,securited systemed home.
Gerald Scott 4 doors yea because Trucks should be less practical?
Literally nothing you can say would sway me to take a 2 door over a 4 door.
My dad had a 1962 Bel Air Chevy with a 283 that was a bit modified. Not a racer but just a little more grunt. It had a welded rear end that allowed both wheels to drive. No peg legging. Anyhow....were out on a shooting trip one day. Were driving through riverbeds and light to medium brush. Were on these old military trails in Missouri. So there we are. Old car full of guns, old trail roads and creek beds. We round a bend and were looking for this place thats popular to shoot at. There is a guy out there, in the boonies, waving us down. Hes stuck just a bit away and says he needs a lift to a tow truck. Keep in mind, this is in the 90's. Cell phones werent a thing yet. My dad tells him were good and to show him where hes stuck. We go out to a river bed. There it is. Buried up to the mid tire in mud and brown water. A Ford Ranger that needed rescuing. We hooked a bit of chain up to a thick braid of rope that the dude had in his truck. Pulled him right out. I think technology has a way of making things more prone to failure in difficult times. The Ranger then, the Raptor in this video. Ive rescued a few cars with my old Tahoe. Its funny that a person pokes fun at yer older vehicle and then you smirk knowing the amount of newer piles you saved with said "antique". Nice vid. I like that old Chevy.
I love that ole school Green Chevy. Reminds me of the good ole days
Love that Big Green! She needs a Duramax swap!
Duramax would make it unstoppable 😈👌
Realistically a 5.3 or 6.0 would be pretty badass in that as well.
raptor needs new tyres actully. But BIG GREEN is One Badass Car
David they even said they put brand new bfg's on the raptor
It's because Roman sucks at driving! His son actually gets momentum
Naw, he just bet on the wrong horse.
Should've kept the locker off. factory that truck has a posi and would have done a lot better of a job
Agreed the dude was taking it nice and slow up a snow incline. If he would've hit the gas and given the steering some play he'd probably make it up. Oh well I guess his tech really saved his poor driving skills
You guys are still the best!!
"cool beans" should never be used while driving an older truck
80s trucks were just amazing
Frank M except dodge. those things were hunks of shit
I have an 85 Dodge 4x4 pick-up and an 89 Ramcharger LE. Guess who neighbors call when they get their 50k fancy trucks stuck? Also have an 86 GMC Jimmy that pulls almost as well. No issues with any of them as they are well maintained. Simplicity not Technology rules the day.
Ramius Aiden I had an 85 d150 and I spent more time fixing it than driving it. Really clean truck but the whole drive train was cursed. Every brand has its lemons, some just have a little more than others
I know what you are saying. I bought a '69 Power Wagon from the fire dept. with only 29000 miles and I had to fix something every time I drove it.
That looked like fun. You guys have almost made me want to try off-roading.
:) We will keep trying. Perhaps, you will go off-roading one day.
I did not notice the driver's side dents when you purchased Big Green. In today's video there is now carnage to the bed and door.
+Todd Hoffmaster These were there when we bought the truck.
The Fast Lane Truck What is a contact email/phone number for TFL?
The Fast Lane Truck hey don't ur chevy have a g80 rear locker?
Jorge Lopez that old c10 doesn't
crashandburnbirner you mean k10, c10 are only rwd. k10 are 4x4.
Do you guys air down when you do these tests? It doesn't seem like you do and would def make a HUGE difference in off-road performance.
I had a 78' k25 suburban, never had any troubles with Colorado terrain, only mods I had on the 350 was a slightly larger intake, 4bbl 650cfm carb, and a mild cam, 300hp 400 lb-ft torque, great truck and I miss it.
Big green needs a junkyard LS with a STS turbo to replace that tired gen II 305.
Gilbert McGillicutty 305 got the job done lol
Dave Miller seems unnecessary. just saying
If you put an LS in it, people would bitch that it wasn't carbureted. If you Turbo'd it, they would bitch that it wasn't a supercharger.
Personally, I think it needs a Cummins. But then again, doesn't everything?
Just needs the 350 HP 350 CI crate motor. Cheap, reliable, simple, and plenty of power.
Gilbert McGillicutty my old 85 K-10 has its original 305 still my daily driver put all that new crap in it and it's not an old truck anymore I can fix just about anything on my truck with some duct tape and garden hose.
not ford vs chevy; it's the solid axles, baby.
& those mickey t's, of course.
kodiak wild The K10 is a better truck overall, plain and simple.
I think that the 305 in the green Chevy needs to go. You guys should do a junk yard 5.3 swap from an NBS Silverado! Or stick a 454 4 bbl in it.
I like the 454 4barrel idea.
Steven Vanheel f i and lockers
My 305 in my 85 was the most reliable GM product I've ever owned. It also got better gas mileage than my 99 or 02 4.3's.
Doing a swap is WAYYY above the old man's pay grade.
kcald1843 I would do the swap just because I find it embarrassing that a v8 makes less power than a 4.3. My buddy has an 08 4.3 wt and it is the most gutless truck I have ever driven. My 5.3 runs absolute circles around it.
the raptor just had a poor off road driver.
said every ford fan boy
Great video guys. I live right by Bandimere and it's awesome seeing local guys going to places I frequent as well. I keep hoping to run into you guys one of these days. Anyways keep up the good work!
Tommy knows how to drive old vehicles
that series of Chevy will still outwork most trucks on the road today,period.that goes for playtime also
You mean with it's pathetic tow rating, pathetic handling, poor fuel economy, and weak axles?
Donald Weber evidently you think newer trucks are built better then the70s and early 80s pickups,you must not use them for work, or you just drive around in one cuz it's fashionable
willis arnald you know old isn't always better
willis arnald
I have a 99' Sierra 1500. Only gets driven when I need to.
willis arnald my daily driver is a 1985 Chevy K10 with the original motor I love it you're right I think the older vehicles were just made with better quality and so much cheaper and easier to work on.
moral of this story is old trucks are for real men and new trucks are for wimps lol
Brian Samuels or new trucks are for men that can afford them, lol I'm jk
wasup or new trucks are for men that like to waste their hard earned money on modern junk lol
Brian Samuels well it's what I like to waste my money on. Besides I have a family and my super duty is just perfect. It has everything I need. A big v8, 4×4 and all the other fancy stuff I need for my family.
Brian Samuels and I can't wait to waste my money again next year on a 2017 F250.
wasup well go right ahead Ford motor company will be happy to take your money. Just as long as your satisfied bud lol
You gotta love the old Chevys! Tried and true!
Nothing really beats old school engineering. Go Green👌☕
same spot, same raptor, not as much of the tires but the driver trying to rock crawl when he should be rock bouncing
there's nothing a Honda can't fail
What is being compared? Lifted with 33's vs. no lift and stock tires? 4 low vs. 4-high?
Both trucks are sitting on 35-inch tires. This video is showing us having fun off-road. It's not a scientific comparison.
But people eat them up, they are all over the place. And they were both in four high, one was a low gear probably running in first gear, the other was a manual in low (or first) gear.
Wish ford or chevy would make a bare bones model. just heater maybe a basic radio and crank windows. And then SUSPENSION
+Stephen English I don't know anything about the Raptor, or Chevy but this video didn't prove anything about old being better than new.
The only thing where old is a clearly better, is simplicity and therefore easy maintenance, that people can do by himselves. But on every other thing, it depends of the vehicle and model in comparison, is the new version better or worse on some narrow field. Then fields where new ones are clearly better, are things like usability, safety, ergonomy, etc.
For example off road performance wise, can't make any rule based on age. The vehicles vary so much. Choose the right vehicle, and no matter is it 2016 or 1952, it is going to be great off road.
Amen. They are both fine trucks.
You TFL guys should have a TV program, great job!! Happy new year from Brazil!
I love yalls vids!! You guys answer every possible question and curiosity I could ever conjur about any car or truck on the market. I want your job!!!
That Chevy is beautiful! Like a Rock! I was strong as I could be! Like a Rock! Nothing ever got to me! Woohoooo! Like a Rock!
Absolutely in love with that old chevy
Momentum goes a long way...
TFL is so much better these days! Not that it wasn't before! Epic!
I got 1978 Scottsdale k10 with original 350 motor manuel locking hubs front and rear, always pulling out newer trucks with it during the winter season, I'll never get rid of it, and I never been stuck with it.
I have a 1982 ish GMC full time 4WD and a 350 SBC engine and it does a great job off road and It's a better 4x4 than my 1999 Durango
The old Chevy has way more than 90 HP
Another win for GM! Great vid!
Hauler Scraper Right... don't get too sore over your loss. 5k truck > 50k truck lmao.
Hauler Scraper Ford fanboy. How typical of a response.
Hauler Scraper You can make excuses all you want but we all know that you'd be just as stuck as the raptor.
Dale Couture I have never heard of a Chevrogay beat the Tundra TRD PRO in the Baja 1000 stock full class, have you?
Hauler Scraper 50k of technology and you can't get up a minor hill that a 30 year old 5k chevy truck can easily do. You took this loss pretty hard.
I enjoyed watching this video. Love all the comments too. Some of these older trucks are still very capable.
I sold my 85 K5 (fleet pkg ) Blazer a cpl years ago. It was a former Santa Monica search/rescue truck. 305 wasn't that powerful, but the stability and traction made up for it all. Plus you could comfortably sleep 3-4 people in it when u go camping. Huge interior space. Best $2000 I ever spent! Drivers didn't road rage me much in that bad boy.
So Pvt. Joker has a big Chevy?
Am blaming his driving skill .. did anyone saw how different both of them in going up that hill ?
chevy driver is was better he went straight and fast
while the raptor driver decided to take it 1 cm at a time
I am a ford fan, but this had to be said
Suhaib GT I would say camera man was too close to the truck
He was close, but check the time difference between the two tries
chevy went in 5 seconds
raptor before getting stuck in took him 30 seconds
Suhaib GT well of course
Suhaib GT sometimes speed isn't everything. The low gears in the Chevy definitely made a huge difference, kept wheel spin down.
lolwut, the gears mean nothing. Wheels go the *same* speed at well... a set speed. All gearing does here is give you power... if anything the chevy was getting alot MORE wheel spin, 4 high but granny gear? omg... da rpm at low speed. ALSO It aint the skill it's the COST... you aint gona bang up a 70k toy truck you will bang up a 5k truck...
All of the real trucks are just laughing at the ridge line.
Pat lol I would love to see a ridge line take half the shit that my 1500 version of andres truck has took. And I am not one bit surprised that a guy like you is so interested in other people's penises.
Pat
I always get a laugh out of the people who make the "tiny penis compensation" comments when they try to talk down to people who like big trucks, or just trucks in general. It really tells you more about the insecurity of the person making the penis comment than it does about the truck person said comment is directed at.
Seriously, you don't know this person, you don't even know if this person has a truck. And if he does have a truck, you do not even know how he uses it, what type of duties he needs it for, nor is it any of your business. People have their preferences, especially when it comes to cars and trucks, and despite your desire to deflect your own insecurities onto them through petty comments, those preferences rarely, if ever, have anything to do with compensating for one's lack of adequate genetalia.
Pat
Oh the irony...
The person who automatically jumped to a stereotype without knowing anything about the individual, and whose mind went straight to penis jokes, is done with this conversation because the other person "can't even hold a proper conversation", lol. Yeah, keep showing your arse mate.
Odd, you seem far more insecure than the average owner of a real truck, and obviously you DO care what other people think or else you wouldn't be here trying to convince us that you're Mr, Know It All with his even less practical truck because it can't do truck duties as well and because - and this is the ironic part - it will have already buckled in two from the unibody frame rusting out before it gets to the age of the Chevy in the video, if used in snow.
What you really mean is that YOU, not other people, have no real use for a pickup and are just a poser or else you would pick one more qualified for truck duty.
Also let me give you a hint about towing. You don't buy a truck capable of 5000lbs to tow 5000lbs. That is only the MAX rating, not the rating you want to have if you like a cool running transmission, if you like your rear end to stay planted during windy highway travel, and you'd like your rear suspension to not start sagging prematurely. Obviously you don't have a clue what makes a practical truck. Hint: Trying to be more like a flimsy car IS NOT IT.
A pickup truck is a fine daily driver. If you have some mental problem that prevents you using it equally well compared to any other vehicle, that is your handicap, not the handicap of someone who wasn't tricked into buying a flimsy econo box with a bed in back.
Pat
And the irony and hypocrisy continue...
Again, as has been the case since you're initial comment, you are making assumptions and generalizations without knowing anything about the individual.
First off, I don't own a pickup truck. I own a Chevy HHR and a Mazda Miata. I don't need a truck, hence, I do not own one.
95% eh? Citation needed.
You can't just go around throwing numbers like that around without factual data to back it up.
Here's some facts that I know. I live in Indiana, lots of farms around here, and guess what, most of the people I know that own trucks, and there's a lot around here, actually use them for heavy duty work, whether it be farm work, construction, or for hauling boats or trailers.
Yes, there are people that just buy trucks and use them as daily drivers, but the percentage that don't use them for heavy work or hauling is a lot lower than you think. Even if they do, what business is it of yours?
Here's something I have learned from personal experience. My cousin has 2009 Ridgeline. It's nice, sure, but he is constantly having to borrow his brother's Silverado to do stuff his Ridgeline cannot do. Not only that, but his brother's Silverado gets better gas mileage.
You also go on to ironically tell me to stop caring about what other people think, yet you seem to be overly concerned with how truck owners use their vehicles. If being overzealous and judgemental while also being an insecure mangina who uses terms like "triggered" is your idea of a real man, then you can have the title.
You are right, people should do and buy what they like without caring what others think, but you contradict that by being judgmental of those who do just that, if what THEY want isn't what you think they should have. Do you see the error in your logic?
Also, something doesn't become a fact just because you state it as such. Oh, and I'm not "triggered", I'm actually quite amused by your lack of common sense.
Honestly you can call this an accurate representation of the raptors capabilities. It was made to Baja and high speed not uphill off-road snow climbs
I am absolutely in love with that K10. would take it over anything else every day
The Chevy went up the hill because he got a fast head start and the guy in the raptor went slow and the raptor didn’t even have 4wd on
The Honda Ridgline is a really nice C A R .
I love how ford guys always talk trash but at the end of the day they are almost always pulled out of a mess by a Chevy or Dodge
That wasn't even the truck it was a user error
I watch all your videos this is one of my favorites
I've got a 4 inch lifted Ford F-350 big block, some cool videos can come
Chevy Chevy Chevy!!!!!! Fords don't get better just more expensive
JagerMeister bullshit they did on purpose for the raptor to look bad and that old piece of shit look good
Gotta love the old school .. simple seems like the easiest way to go ..
Never go offroad without your bowtie. 😉
I learned a leason, that a small hill can be drawn out as 14min video. And that suspense music makes a difference.
great on-screen chemistry it's like you guys are father and son
I used to be a die hard TFL subscriber with notifications, but these videos are getting harder and harder to watch. Everything is so staged and artificial. Sure they were in a relatively difficult environment, but if the drivers would actually DRIVE instead of questioning their abilities, everyone would've made it to the top.
+Charlie Adolf, III thanks for your comment but none of this is staged. Unlike reality TV and Top Gear and Grand Tourer we don't stage anything. What you see in the video is exactly what happened when we tried to go up GMH in the snow.
The Fast Lane Truck I appreciate your response, and I suppose I should've thought about it a bit more before I commented. I have no doubt at all that the environment is real. It's just that something seems different than the old TFL videos.
I think what it means is the way you guys conversate just seems un natural or artificial as if it were scripted.
Sir Fellar EXACTLY! A less scripted and more natural dialogue would make it much more enjoyable to watch
The Fast Lane Truck , OMG.......Totally no idea! bad driving, all that technology but zero driving skills, just stick to acting.
the honda is a SUV not a truck.
paul lamont It is not even an SUV, it’s a Crossover.
Tires make all the difference! No matter how many high tech aids you have! I have never had much faith in those bfg tires!
I love it when you guys do older truck videos. Keep it up
These are my favorite kinds of videos you guys do.
big green just used momentum, but hey it worked
2017 Honda ridge line, the "truck" for all Asian men
and gays
only real truck of these 3!
sterling brundick LOL! Ridgeline should be called a VTEC canter
sterling brundick I'd hook 4 of those Piece of shit ridgeline cars up to my duramax and pull them around like toy wagons.
I feel like if you would have gunned it, the Raptor would have made it.
Kolby Slife I feel this comparison boiled down to driver incompetence. the raptor is a beast but it was riding on skinny little tires where the Chevy had a lift and bug off road tires
exactly. ..4 mph up the hill with the raptor smdh
The tires were fine, same size. You don't drive the same in a new truck as an old one.
Well I might, but normal people don't lol.
I took that old 305ci out of my Chevy and dropped in a 97Vortec 350ci 5.7 with Edelbrock Performer 650carb till I installed the MultiPort EFI which was awesome far as fuel economy and power and all around gains but that Edelbrock carb never failed to cold start once it was beast plus I installed 4"of lift ran 35-12.50-15 swamper TSL Radials and a ARB air locker front and rear with 4:10Gears with the 350Turbo Transmission it was solid as hell I miss that old truck to this day
Super powerful video! Very entertaining, personable and funny! Big cinema. Thanks.
lol I would rather have the Chevy.. eaiser to work on 😀
When in doubt, floor it!
When it doubt throttle out!
haha. Good old lack of modern technology will always be better
I'm not a hardcore off roader but here is my opinion guys. Like anything else in many times it all comes down to the driver and good old fashioned luck. New rig or old rig you get a guy who knows what he's doing and gets some good traction and all is good as gold. As for myself I have an "old" 99 F150 and would much rather fix up my 78 Jimmy for any type of real off road adventures.
Awesome I have a 75 Chevy c10 and it's a beast
New truck is not anything like the old ones
this only showed one thing the sons got more balls than the dad you hit it with speed and you make iy right up no problem