MB outis feels so good to use ngl Also ahab+ fullstop office is stupid funny Poise do be winning hard (i think the bis now is 3 BL, ahabmael and the two fullstops)
People are reallly sleeping on Butler Ryoshu! She has an absolutely insane synergy with Ishmael being able to spam skill 1's (that are lust afinity and which the poise team heavily lacks) that give her mad ammounts of poise to use on her AoE skill 2 that is pride for Ishmael and her skill 3 being red helps with fueling Blind Obsession
@@specterer Yup. Captain Ishmael, Butler Ryoshu, keeping BL benched and using more self-fulfilling identities like Cinq works completely fine. You do lose out a bit of the pierce focus using Butler Ryoshu but she has great EGOs, and great AOE.
@@shadowball5295 why would you bench Full Stop Heathcliff when he's more valuable than Maid Ryoshu? in fact, why wouldnt you just let him deplete his ammo and have Ryoshu as the "7th unit" (just dont fill in 8-12th spots) so she can just substitute? Fullstop Heath is massive in aoe since Hong Lu can just oneshot fodder with his S2 and S3 and Heath will do his S2 followups on the remaining fodders that can be oneshotted in turn since his own dm is ridiculous (he consistently out dmg's Hong Lu whenever they are together unless Hong Lu gets 2 skill slots and Heath getting staggered once)
In MD or human fights, I'd take out Ahab for Butler Ryoshu for the AOE. Against bosses, yeah Ahab is nice. Biggest issue is her sanity drain in human fights
cool thing: atelier logic always counts as the final bullet since it's one of a kind. this means it always triggers lccb ryo's passive. cool stuff ngl.
I really thought Hong Lu was going to be crazy and he is. However, I can't believe how insane Heathcliff is. Not only did he deal insane damage in the exp lux, he completely destroyed the mirror dungeon. I really don't know how they are going to top this Walpurgis Nacht. It all is just so good.
Insights I've got when trying them out: - It's only possible to shoot 7th Bullet without knowing about it beforehand if at 6 Bullets you go Skill 3 on Shootis into EGO, which is so rare I'd say killing Outis with EGO by accident is a skill issue. For a vast majority of cases, you'll see those 7 Bullets on Outis before you'd get to make the choice of using EGO or not. - Shootis can simply reset out of 7 Bullets with Skill 3 and start over. - EGO takes Lust, which means solo players will shrimp in inability. - For the event, I would suggest to put Shootis as №1 deployed ID, and pop off To Pathos Mythos as soon as possible. Use Superbia if you have it. Poise from Sunshower also helps a lot. - Unless you spend your Atelier Logic bullet, Heathcliff will not retreat. To retreat Heathcliff and buff Hong Lu, you have to fire the bullet (or don't bother retreating and put Heath into backup). - Holy Demian's sheep, how loaded was Angelica to have three guns fully loaded with the stuff (and surplus)? - Fell Bullet really helps Heathcliff to not waste bullets with Skill 1 (which uses 3 out of 10). Definitely usable over one of Heath's dodges. - You really would have to watch Hong Lu's bullets if you want to reload him. Due to him not losing a lot of power in really takes attention to notice the need to reload. - Again, for the event (the hard part of it), around Turn 8 you'd want to pop Yi Sang's Sunshower. This makes Yi Sang necessary, so might as well bring Solemn Lament. - For some reason the maximum amount of skill slots in the event is 11 (2 per Sinner, №1 gets 3), not 12.
The speed mechanic is still a bit confusing especially since it also behaves differently in focused and non-focused encounters, I can be faster than the enemy and still execute my skills from right to left. Though it is possible to see the execution order if you change the targeting arrows to show one at a time, but it's so SLOW
@@qwyggum As far as I can see it, Limbus tries to be sneaky about it: all clashes still execute from fastest to slowest, but between clashes that aren't affecting each other in any way, their order of animation gets remixed. It's possible because under the cover Limbus simulates the entire turn first and only then animates it (wish Pokemon would do that tbh).
About your first point, if you use Skill 3 while at 6 bullets, she gains a bullet and then resets her bullet count to 0 thanks to her [After Attack] conditional. Am I missing something? How are you to deliberately use the 7th Bullet variation of the EGO without using the EGO two times in a row? Defense skill?
What makes me genuinely happy about the Magic Bullet E.G.O is honestly because of the fact that the dark flame application (unlike the ID) is actually same turn. Which means that you can actually benefit from it faster than what you could before with only the ID
Soda Hong Lu passive is the only viable one for Full Stop Hong Lu. He has only two EGO competing in that slot. One is for Tremor, and the other is Lust fragility which is quite good in team with lust skills. With chain battle being more relevant, we don't move to the next wave, so Soda Hong Lu passive won't get reset.
Because Hong Lu only has 3 Teth EGO, Yellow Tremor, Desire, and Soda. The tremor passive isn't usable on him, and the Desire requires 4+ lust resonance to activate and inflict lust fragility.
I have to disagree with the "Full Stop has no aoe so bad for normal battles" cause follow up attacks are basically pseudo aoe if you're fighting enemies that Hong Lu tends to be killing, like the current event.
Thank God i finally have a good Poise team(BL Sault/Don/Faust, FS HL/HC, Ahabmael/Cinq Clair/Maid Ryo). Magic Bullet is really le funny ego, i even up4 some ids for burn team to shine a little more.
260 pulls total I got two one hong lu one announce then Outis hard pity then 60 more after with two more hong lus and another full stop announcer. My worst walpurgies yet.
We need more burn characters for me to enjoy using it. I did a MD last night and Outis absolutely carried in both damage and fun. Maybe Canto 8 will help.
the ego they've been releasing since last walpurgis have been absolutely monsterous for damage, Magic Bullet included. If you haven't encorporated regular EGO usage in your mirror dungeon runs yet, you should because that cuts the time you spend in there (people's biggest complaint apparently) by a lot.
Went to pull immediately after this, and my luck was INSANE. I got Bullet Outis EGO and Full Stop Hong Lu on my first pull. Second pull I got 4 2 stars for some nice free thread. And I got Heathcliff AND Cavernous Wailing Sinclair on my 3rd pull.
similar experience here i hit hong lu early but didnt hit heathcliff till 180 hit the announcers in between and hit the ego on 20 lucky i was still missing angela and hod announce so i had something to pitty lol
Uhhh How Viable is Hong Lu without Heathcliff…? (I was only able to pull Hong Lu) To my knowledge, the main thing I’ll be missing out on will be those follow-up attacks…
@@MoonbowOpus to add even more salt to your scar,this was permanent enhance skill for skill 2 and 3 of Hong lu when heathcliff is not on the field,that simply mean,you gain steroid for honglu if you have fs heath even if you don't bring him on battle lol You will totally regret it if you don't have heath.. Hong lu as standalone ID is very good tho,he can ramp poise fast,high clash number,but he became very very strong if you have heath The DPS potential you gonna lost are massive if you don't have heath,even heathcliff evade can proc Hong lu follow up attack
I only got magic outis out of the 3 and i want to pity one of the fulls top ids, which one do you think is theoretically more "independent" out of the two?
Based on tests, Hong Lu definitely can stand on his own. With conditionals from the other Poise ID's in the support/combat passives, they can fuel his damage to go insane for his rolls and clashes. As well, Heath has the same "all gas, no brakes" state that his R Corp ID has, albeit with a skill 1 that will drain Ammo faster. Damage is nice, but he'd rather have it proc through Hong Lu at times since it adds further damage with changing his skills (as despite the one & done nature of the Atelier skill, you'd want to hold off from using it to get the most damage). The Atelier Logic bullet is a special case, but the payoff requires him to stay in fights longer, which dependent on the gamemode (MD is probably where he'd get the most consistency by replacing his Skill 1 to either the 2nd or 3rd) he won't contribute to when he runs out. Hong Lu has a built in refresh once per encounter that's not reliant on retreating (In contrast, Heath has the same caveat as Devyat IDs where he needs a Substitute or is unplayable for the remaining encounter, alongside becoming last in the deployment order which can get time consuming if you're placing him in a 8+ team minimum).
@@photofinish4778 thank you so much! This cleared a lot of things up for me, i have a lot of poise ids so I'll definitely spend a lot of time tinkering with the team comps, i think I'll take hong lu as you suggested
As burns biggest fan and maybe only defender I am SO glad for this E.G.O... but we are not winning yet. First E.G.O. besides this since the start of s3 (Well over a year ago) and last ID since 8 months ago / last April. We NEED more wins soon. ESPECIALLY IDs.
When one of your units dies, the backup comes back, if you only have 1 person in the back, this means heath can come back quickly, devyat can also retreat so they can pull him back as well.
I tested team where Heat in backup first and it didn't work. Hong Ku doesn't receive power-up skills and Heat doesn't shoot from back up. He must be deployed for activation and only after retreat passives will trigger. So far I could recommend put in your Poise team one of Devyat IDs (I thinking about 9 Sinclair mostly because good clashing and Blunt) for Heat rotathion.
This is either false or has been patched already, I had heath benched during the event and managed to get the extra attack. You either need to have enough resonance to guarantee the attack and make sure Hong lu has his passive active
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burn support getting locked to the walpurgis banner yet again
Its tough for us out there
inb4 we get Xiao in the next ruina themed walp to add insult to injury lol(i am corrding at the thought)
Burn is a premium team
it simulates the money you need to burn for the team.
To run a burn team you must burn your wallet.
MB outis feels so good to use ngl
Also ahab+ fullstop office is stupid funny
Poise do be winning hard (i think the bis now is 3 BL, ahabmael and the two fullstops)
People are reallly sleeping on Butler Ryoshu! She has an absolutely insane synergy with Ishmael being able to spam skill 1's (that are lust afinity and which the poise team heavily lacks) that give her mad ammounts of poise to use on her AoE skill 2 that is pride for Ishmael and her skill 3 being red helps with fueling Blind Obsession
@@specterer probably best to change out Fullstop heath for her on horde fights and Heath for bosses
@@specterer Yup. Captain Ishmael, Butler Ryoshu, keeping BL benched and using more self-fulfilling identities like Cinq works completely fine. You do lose out a bit of the pierce focus using Butler Ryoshu but she has great EGOs, and great AOE.
@@shadowball5295 why would you bench Full Stop Heathcliff when he's more valuable than Maid Ryoshu? in fact, why wouldnt you just let him deplete his ammo and have Ryoshu as the "7th unit" (just dont fill in 8-12th spots) so she can just substitute? Fullstop Heath is massive in aoe since Hong Lu can just oneshot fodder with his S2 and S3 and Heath will do his S2 followups on the remaining fodders that can be oneshotted in turn since his own dm is ridiculous (he consistently out dmg's Hong Lu whenever they are together unless Hong Lu gets 2 skill slots and Heath getting staggered once)
In MD or human fights, I'd take out Ahab for Butler Ryoshu for the AOE. Against bosses, yeah Ahab is nice. Biggest issue is her sanity drain in human fights
cool thing: atelier logic always counts as the final bullet since it's one of a kind. this means it always triggers lccb ryo's passive. cool stuff ngl.
I really thought Hong Lu was going to be crazy and he is. However, I can't believe how insane Heathcliff is. Not only did he deal insane damage in the exp lux, he completely destroyed the mirror dungeon. I really don't know how they are going to top this Walpurgis Nacht. It all is just so good.
I had to go all the way to 200 yisang to get it all. Waluiginight always makes me nervous.
Had to go to 200 to get Heathcliff
Had to 200 for Heathcliff. Still no MB EGO.
Insights I've got when trying them out:
- It's only possible to shoot 7th Bullet without knowing about it beforehand if at 6 Bullets you go Skill 3 on Shootis into EGO, which is so rare I'd say killing Outis with EGO by accident is a skill issue. For a vast majority of cases, you'll see those 7 Bullets on Outis before you'd get to make the choice of using EGO or not.
- Shootis can simply reset out of 7 Bullets with Skill 3 and start over.
- EGO takes Lust, which means solo players will shrimp in inability.
- For the event, I would suggest to put Shootis as №1 deployed ID, and pop off To Pathos Mythos as soon as possible. Use Superbia if you have it. Poise from Sunshower also helps a lot.
- Unless you spend your Atelier Logic bullet, Heathcliff will not retreat. To retreat Heathcliff and buff Hong Lu, you have to fire the bullet (or don't bother retreating and put Heath into backup).
- Holy Demian's sheep, how loaded was Angelica to have three guns fully loaded with the stuff (and surplus)?
- Fell Bullet really helps Heathcliff to not waste bullets with Skill 1 (which uses 3 out of 10). Definitely usable over one of Heath's dodges.
- You really would have to watch Hong Lu's bullets if you want to reload him. Due to him not losing a lot of power in really takes attention to notice the need to reload.
- Again, for the event (the hard part of it), around Turn 8 you'd want to pop Yi Sang's Sunshower. This makes Yi Sang necessary, so might as well bring Solemn Lament.
- For some reason the maximum amount of skill slots in the event is 11 (2 per Sinner, №1 gets 3), not 12.
The speed mechanic is still a bit confusing especially since it also behaves differently in focused and non-focused encounters, I can be faster than the enemy and still execute my skills from right to left. Though it is possible to see the execution order if you change the targeting arrows to show one at a time, but it's so SLOW
@@qwyggum As far as I can see it, Limbus tries to be sneaky about it: all clashes still execute from fastest to slowest, but between clashes that aren't affecting each other in any way, their order of animation gets remixed. It's possible because under the cover Limbus simulates the entire turn first and only then animates it (wish Pokemon would do that tbh).
About your first point, if you use Skill 3 while at 6 bullets, she gains a bullet and then resets her bullet count to 0 thanks to her [After Attack] conditional. Am I missing something? How are you to deliberately use the 7th Bullet variation of the EGO without using the EGO two times in a row? Defense skill?
What makes me genuinely happy about the Magic Bullet E.G.O is honestly because of the fact that the dark flame application (unlike the ID) is actually same turn.
Which means that you can actually benefit from it faster than what you could before with only the ID
had to pity magic bullet, got 2 hong lus and every fucking announcer in 200 pulls
MooMoo out here personally funding the director's anime. Thank you for your sacrifice.
Soda Hong Lu passive is the only viable one for Full Stop Hong Lu.
He has only two EGO competing in that slot. One is for Tremor, and the other is Lust fragility which is quite good in team with lust skills.
With chain battle being more relevant, we don't move to the next wave, so Soda Hong Lu passive won't get reset.
Soda viable?????
Because Hong Lu only has 3 Teth EGO, Yellow Tremor, Desire, and Soda.
The tremor passive isn't usable on him, and the Desire requires 4+ lust resonance to activate and inflict lust fragility.
I have to disagree with the "Full Stop has no aoe so bad for normal battles" cause follow up attacks are basically pseudo aoe if you're fighting enemies that Hong Lu tends to be killing, like the current event.
Thank God i finally have a good Poise team(BL Sault/Don/Faust, FS HL/HC, Ahabmael/Cinq Clair/Maid Ryo).
Magic Bullet is really le funny ego, i even up4 some ids for burn team to shine a little more.
Just spent 70 summons to get literally nothing other than the full stop announcer, I love gacha 😭
Pulled 6 Hong Lus and had to pity Heathcliff, no MB either. Rip lunacy
That is still 250 hong lu ego shards
So that where my honglu Went want to trade it with 5 ahabmel for 1 hongluu
After 200 pulls only got magic bullet ego and dawn Sinclair had to pity hong lu, all funds extinguished
260 pulls total I got two one hong lu one announce then Outis hard pity then 60 more after with two more hong lus and another full stop announcer. My worst walpurgies yet.
3:40 The sixth bullet only reuses the coin twice: "(2 times max)" so it would just be 6+6+6, not 6+6+6+6 that you said.
I think the first 6 was the base power but it is confusing to phrase it the way he did.
We need more burn characters for me to enjoy using it. I did a MD last night and Outis absolutely carried in both damage and fun. Maybe Canto 8 will help.
the ego they've been releasing since last walpurgis have been absolutely monsterous for damage, Magic Bullet included. If you haven't encorporated regular EGO usage in your mirror dungeon runs yet, you should because that cuts the time you spend in there (people's biggest complaint apparently) by a lot.
Im getting 1320 damage with the heatcliff assist attack. It's really nuts
Went to pull immediately after this, and my luck was INSANE. I got Bullet Outis EGO and Full Stop Hong Lu on my first pull. Second pull I got 4 2 stars for some nice free thread. And I got Heathcliff AND Cavernous Wailing Sinclair on my 3rd pull.
I remember spinning 208 times and no magic bullet thank god we haven’t gotten anything for the past while or I wouldn’t have it…
Pulled MB but no ids and got a triple announcers in a pull.
150 pulls and will try to pity hong lu praying i get heath or hong lu early
200 pulls to get everything (i pitied Honglu), i have 16k left for next Walpukek shit was rough lmao.
similar experience here i hit hong lu early but didnt hit heathcliff till 180 hit the announcers in between and hit the ego on 20 lucky i was still missing angela and hod announce so i had something to pitty lol
got everything for 50...
glory to project moon!!!
Almost the same, I did 180 pulls and have 15k to spare
Same because I didn't get any Walpurgisnacht thing till like 150 pulls
had to go to 200 for every walpurgis so far shit tragic
145 pñulls got literally nothing from the banner got 6 ego spooked and no 3*, my worst walpurgis night
My GOAT. Keep cooking 🐐🙏
Honestly, I just pull full stop for poise gloom for my bl team. But damn they hit hard.
160 pulls snd got everything (including all the other egos from previous wulpurgis)
I had to shard heathcliff cause I kept getting hong lu and every fucking announcer known to mankind
I didn't get heathcliff 😭
I didn't get Hong lu😭
Be happy with hong lu cuz some of us didn't even got him nor outis bullet
keep pulling
didn't get heathcliff to 😂 got hong lu from free pull but greedy and do 40th pull didn't get any except ego 😅...this is sad.
I just wanted Outis ego and I got both full stops and not outis :(
Atelier Bullet giving me hope for Crystal Atelier and Atelier Logic 🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵
400? Holy unluck...
I was done in 150.
Gods i got both of them in 40 pulls and magic outis 20 pulls later with extra hong lu
10 10x and got all three. Now I need to grind to shard MB Outis though otherwise the ego is going to be kinda useless lol..
Pulling every walp item except full stop hearhcliff, shi be wild
Your Fso honglu will not be at his highest
Concentration give you 4×25=100% not 200%
for the burn pierce team does it really matter what the 2nd burn ID is? i have ish and dawnclair but i’d have to shard rodion
Just make sure you have a bit of burn count and you're good to go, it's just to allow mboutis burn potency to be maintained.
Uhhh How Viable is Hong Lu without Heathcliff…? (I was only able to pull Hong Lu)
To my knowledge, the main thing I’ll be missing out on will be those follow-up attacks…
And Hong lu "special 4 coins skill"
@@gregoriusriscadoharefaoh…oh dear…
@@MoonbowOpus to add even more salt to your scar,this was permanent enhance skill for skill 2 and 3 of Hong lu when heathcliff is not on the field,that simply mean,you gain steroid for honglu if you have fs heath even if you don't bring him on battle lol
You will totally regret it if you don't have heath..
Hong lu as standalone ID is very good tho,he can ramp poise fast,high clash number,but he became very very strong if you have heath
The DPS potential you gonna lost are massive if you don't have heath,even heathcliff evade can proc Hong lu follow up attack
My dude is speed
Just got magic bullet! Too bad I run out of lunacy! XD
I only got magic outis out of the 3 and i want to pity one of the fulls top ids, which one do you think is theoretically more "independent" out of the two?
Based on tests, Hong Lu definitely can stand on his own. With conditionals from the other Poise ID's in the support/combat passives, they can fuel his damage to go insane for his rolls and clashes. As well, Heath has the same "all gas, no brakes" state that his R Corp ID has, albeit with a skill 1 that will drain Ammo faster. Damage is nice, but he'd rather have it proc through Hong Lu at times since it adds further damage with changing his skills (as despite the one & done nature of the Atelier skill, you'd want to hold off from using it to get the most damage). The Atelier Logic bullet is a special case, but the payoff requires him to stay in fights longer, which dependent on the gamemode (MD is probably where he'd get the most consistency by replacing his Skill 1 to either the 2nd or 3rd) he won't contribute to when he runs out. Hong Lu has a built in refresh once per encounter that's not reliant on retreating (In contrast, Heath has the same caveat as Devyat IDs where he needs a Substitute or is unplayable for the remaining encounter, alongside becoming last in the deployment order which can get time consuming if you're placing him in a 8+ team minimum).
@@photofinish4778 thank you so much! This cleared a lot of things up for me, i have a lot of poise ids so I'll definitely spend a lot of time tinkering with the team comps, i think I'll take hong lu as you suggested
dawggg 😭 i got nothing in 80 pulls
270 pity and i only got outis netzach and full stop announcers funny game
As burns biggest fan and maybe only defender I am SO glad for this E.G.O... but we are not winning yet. First E.G.O. besides this since the start of s3 (Well over a year ago) and last ID since 8 months ago / last April. We NEED more wins soon. ESPECIALLY IDs.
what we burn fans need is a singular id with an evade
@warmwater9509 WE NEED A SINGULAR ID 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Rupture solos
@@Who1156 solo digit of potency that's what
Does magic bullet Outis activate the poise ego gift? (The need 5 poise id)
Nope, she's not poise related.
could you replace ring sang with lament sang?
Sure, pierce + resonance to reload fits very well with a pride pierce team with ahab + fullstops.
i got 5 healthcliff bro
But i still dont understand, how does coming back after retreating even work?
When one of your units dies, the backup comes back, if you only have 1 person in the back, this means heath can come back quickly, devyat can also retreat so they can pull him back as well.
I am free to played made 150 wish got everything but ego. 40 k left so should I pull more 50 or let it be?
bro if you have 40k just spend it, that’s almost enough to pity 2 other walpurgis
Pull 50 if you have MB Outis ID or could shard it, and especially if you don't have everything from Walpurgis
I got all three in 70 pulls
I tested team where Heat in backup first and it didn't work. Hong Ku doesn't receive power-up skills and Heat doesn't shoot from back up. He must be deployed for activation and only after retreat passives will trigger. So far I could recommend put in your Poise team one of Devyat IDs (I thinking about 9 Sinclair mostly because good clashing and Blunt) for Heat rotathion.
Do you have Hong Lu's passive up? 5 pride and if Heath is in backup, boom he has enhanced skills
This is either false or has been patched already, I had heath benched during the event and managed to get the extra attack. You either need to have enough resonance to guarantee the attack and make sure Hong lu has his passive active
Hmmm, thx guys.
Will try later, maybe after all I missed something.