Arkansas Week: Critical Race Theory Debate
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- Critical race theory has exploded into a national debate with legislatures across the U.S. seeking to ban it in schools. Two state legislators join the program to share their views.
Sen. Joyce Elliott
D-Little Rock
Rep. Mark Lowery
R-Maumelle
The School Boards and Teachers Unions seem to be forgetting one simple fact, the parents don’t want you teaching this dubious curriculum to THEIR children. I do believe that’s where this “discussion” needs to begin and end.
Otherwise, K-12 needs to begin firearm training and marksmanship, irregardless of the wishes of any parents. After all, WHO’S children ARE they, anyway?
Can you imagine……….?
BUT !!! they have already been for YEARS been teaching dubious curriculum
Dummy they are not teaching crt in k-12 you people are so stupid and so easily lead to believe anything it’s just not being taught in schools! It’s a college course for lawyers! What the hell is wrong with you people!
Then the parents can home school or put there kid sin private school. They are not force to send there kids to public school.
@X X What is CRT/ And can you provide proof that it is taught in public Scholl.
I wait for you not to have the answer. And please give links to your research.
@X X 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣thanks for proving my point.
Critical Race Theory in short tries to show that previous and current legislation has impacted race disparity. Most people have no problem accepting this as a fact on legislation (mainly in the south, but the north was not exempted from it) after the civil war and prior to the civil rights movement in the 1960’s, in which legislation was directed to limit some races (mainly blacks) from achieving equality in political, economical, educational, etc. spheres. Clearly, after this post civil war-100 years period, the groups suffering the legislative decisions were at a great disadvantage to compete on equal terms due to their systematic planned lack of education, resources, capital, family role models, and most importantly a community based support in their own communities, and acceptance and support by the other racial communities, especially those in power. The goal would be that all laws and policies are race-blind, and given time all systematically disadvantage races would catch-up, and we all would be a one big happy family. The big question would be: has society offered a fair level playing field for all races (including the resources needed to fairly compete), has legislation stopped being racially motivated and limiting, and if all people have accepted to play on a real fair level field.
My argument goes thus: were a corporation to be shown to have a racist policy all hell would break loose. The press would scream, directors would resign, shares would plummet. By the next morning that corporation would be (metaphorically) a smoking crater. Am I wrong?
If I'm right, then we are a civilisation ready to stamp out systemic racism wherever it appears.
I don't think there's anything more that can reasonably be asked of us.
You could not be more wrong about the "race-blind" thing in CRT.
The following is from Critical Race Theory: The Key Writings That Formed the Movement. This shows how CRT unequivocally promotes racism and segregation.
“The first is to understand the regime of white supremacy and its subordination of people of color, which has been created and maintained in America, and in particular to examine the relationship that the social structure and professed ideals such as “the rule of law” and “equal protection.” The second is a desire to not merely understand the vexed bond between law and racial power - but to change it.”
“This mainstream civil rights discourse on “race relations” was constructed this way partly as a defense against the more radical ideologies of racial liberation presented by the Black nationalists and Black Consciousness movements of the ‘60s and the early ‘70s. In the construction of “racism” as an irrational and backwards bias of believing that someone’s race is important, the American cultural mainstream neatly linked the Black left to the white racist right according to this quickly concealed consensus, because race consciousness characterized both white supremacists and black nationalists both as racist.”
“With its explicit embrace of racial consciousness, Critical Race Theory aims to reexamine the terms by which race and racism have been negotiated in American consciousness, and to recover and revitalize the radical tradition of race consciousness among African-Americans and other peoples of color. A tradition that was discarded when integration, assimilation, and the ideal of “colorblindness” became the official norms of the racial enlightenment.”
“A predominantly white left emerged on the law school scene in the late ‘70s, a development which played a central role in the genesis of Critical Race Theory. Organized by a collection of Neo-Marxists intellectuals, former New Left activists, Ex-Counter Culturalists, and other varieties of oppositionists in law schools - the Conference on Critical Legal Studies established itself as a network of openly leftist Law teachers, students, and practitioners committed to exposing and challenging the ways American law served to legitimize an oppressive social order.”
“Critical Race Theory indicates how and why the contemporary “Jurisprudence of color-blind-ness” is not only the expression of a particular color-consciousness, but the product of a deeply politicized choice.”
“The colorblind assimilationist ideal seeks homogeneity in a society rather than diversity. Such an ideal neglects the positive aspects of race, particularly the cultural components that distinguish us from one another. It may not be a desirable result those cultural components to be subsumed into a society that recognizes commonalities. The assimilationist colorblind ignores and thereby devalues Culturerace. The successful abolition of “Black” as a meaningful concept would require abolishing the distinctiveness that we attribute the Black community, culture, and consciousness. The abolition of a people’s culture is by definition cultural genocide. In short, assimilation as a societal goal, has grave political consequences for Black and other non-whites.”
It is a pro-segregation ideology for black people - similar to the Nation of Islam.
@@afgone wrong, it is a remediation ideology dealing with systemic racism - PERIOD.
I wish there were more videos like this, of informed people debating the issue. It's usually folks equipped with talking points regurgitating what they've heard. I've read on CRT and from what I've read, I clearly need to read more to truly understand it. There is no way possible all these anti-CRT folks are experts on it the way the let off to be. Anyway, this was a helpful conversation. Please hold more like it
My people we dont need this to be taught in schools. WE NEED TO TEACH THIS IN OUR HOMES AND COMMUNITY DAILY!!!!!! YOU SEE A GROUP OF BLQ KIDS CHILLIN ON A SATURDAY GO OVER AND START THE CONVO!!!
@X X you can take your bullisht comment off my post. If you dont like the truth being told then let your ancestors know.
we don't segregate the A/B students from the rest of the class?...see "Honor Roll"
Exactly... I see schools with AP classes at the school or high school students simultaneously attending college. There were "Honors" students also
It's not about blaming anyone. It's about speaking honestly about the what the government has done and how it has affected people.
Assimilation is not about freedom. It's about making people comfortable. We can come together in freedom.
Biased and hubristic moderator, so predictable with PBS.
CRT is far too complex to have a debate regarding its place in education. A better approach is to discuss exactly what types of concepts are being taught that are an issue. I know it won’t happen but these types of conversations never go anywhere because they are apples and oranges discussions
My thoughts exactly! It's so ill defined in this debate that all progress is halted.
CRT is always so suddenly vague and "not that" whenever proponents are caught adhering to its most basic principles. You can point out the obvious flaws with crt and you will be met with denial, or the common "thats not crt' when in reality its just a flawed theory that makes the critical mistake of judging people as groups through a historical context.
Its like saying "the world is not perfect, burn it down"..
They dont credit any of the advancements we have made as a society and only focus on the worst stuff possible and then call it all bad.. Its nonsense.
@@CryoftheProphet Reconstruction was mentioned and complimented as a result of addressing a wrong system, only to be followed up by another wrong system, Jim Crow. Too many people are biased and narrow-minded, dare I even suggest closed-minded to even try to understand the reality of anything they feel, without good and true investigation, goes against their interest or perspective. This is the problem of a immensely politicized country. Many are dug in to their political post and aren’t willing to have a civilized, honest and open discussion with persons having different understandings to collectively solve the real problems our country is facing. The blame game has been played since the Garden of Eden and nothing is getting done to solve the problems of the ordinary people. It is truly a shame.
@@jamesthomas5021 there is only one path, one way, and one truth by which all truth is contingent, and that is Jesus Christ, who is God.
It’s funny how black and white Christians consider each other closer than family because we are United in our love of Christ Jesus, but because the world hates Christ, and they hate the moral foundation Christ established from the beginning, there can only be division among non believers.
CRT is not taught in K-12, but is used in examining the impact of race on education vigorously.
Why does one group of people have generational advantages????? Please answer someone....
Because they had a 400 year head start! How is that so hard to understand??? Get your head out your ass!
Slavery is what gave you generational advantages. Sad that some people don’t know the obvious because they are too busy being ignorant.
Because 400 years of forced labor and discrimination was visited mostly on a minority group and the largesse shared through various programs, policies, and laws with the majority group, giving them a compounded generational advantage of trillions of dollars. To see the details refer to Shawn Rochester's book "Black Tax: The Cost of Being Black in America".
@@olliemck60str8 facts
I believe that the gentleman is probably a politician at his best. If you come to such an important discussion you need facts.
Exactly...
You cannot divide what was never united to begin with
THANK YOU!!!
BEWARE OF RACIAL BLANQUEAMIENTO
Exactly
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CRT challenge classical liberal value, the traditional 1964 civil rights movement discourse.
CRT questions, criticizes, challenge, and even reject such classical liberal ideas like, color-blindness, racial integration, equality, individualism, incremental improvement, "objective, neutral, and balanced" view, etc.
Here are some quotes from CRT authors:
"The aspect of our work which most markedly distinguishes it from conventional liberal and conservative legal scholarship about race and inequality is deep dissatisfaction with traditional civil rights discourse"
--Critical Race Theory: the key writings that formed the movement. Edited by Kimberle Crenshaw , ...
"Unlike traditional civil rights discourse, which stresses incrementalism and step-by-step progress, critical race theory questions the very foundations of the liberal order, including equality theory, legal reasoning, Enlightenment rationalism, and neutral principals of constitutional law."
-- Critical Race Theory. An Introduction. Third edition. by Richard Delgado and Jean Stefancic
It destroys America
It doesn't question the value of those liberal ideas, it questions the inadequate incremental liberal approach and its vulnerability to racist recidivism and delay. For example, the recidivism of anti-CRTers, slandering CRT in order to restrict what history is taught in K-12, even though they know full well that CRT is not taught in K-12.
@@olliemck60 So what specific history are these 'slanderers' of CRT restricting with their grand ploy to remove an ideological framework that is not being taught in K-12 schools? Is it US slavery, Frederick Douglass, the civil rights era, Obama, etc?
We need you as our congress women
It's just amazing how bringing up HIS STORY, is so difficult for some to talk about their rigged system and laws, lopsided judicial system, atrocities of slavery, generational wealth building for unpaid forced labor, black codes, the modern day slave patrols, and their rampant slaughter of innocent and unarmed men women & children, and other abuses, red lineing, the theft of real properties such as land and other resources, discrimination in banking predatory lending, the black tax, wealth disparity, and law's and charters and state constitutions to make what should be illegal legal. Qualified immunity for serial deleters. Gentrification, millions homeless, Teaching & Telling the truth acknowledging and making amends for the sins of their 4 father's. In this soup we have members of all branches of the United States military homeless on the street. While immigrants are hustled in and catered to. On the taxpayers dime.
Why not teach the truth and nothing but the truth. Level the playing field for the descendants of those who truly built this nation. But I'm guessing any group who actually considered owning a human being that was considered 3/5ths of a man is really wishful dreaming.
If this once great nation and modern day so called super power is so proud of it's present & past history and record. Teach the truth.
Again wishful dreaming. 🤣🤣
Don't disturb racial structure that is established in the DNA of the USA
That's a lie.
Thank you for this discussion.
Richard Ward and Dave Ward
Lol @ the caption “June 10th”… If that’s not evidence Arkansas has something to work on...
Her nails on Fire !!!
good host too
She's either flat-out lying Or at best ignorant to the facts
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Mark Lowery cannot get out of his own way 🤦
# ARE WE BEING RECORDED? # white wash
I would love to play these videos back in 20, 30,40, 50 years from now
if you do not get educated from your school, is that education
lets ban education till we agree on something
CRT is NOT being taught in school! Now, let me tell you exactly what we are using CRT for in the classroom...
Not today or ever Satan... not today..
That is one awesome African American woman
Nope.
This entire thing is two people debating what they believe CRT actually is.
Maybe next time start with a defined definition.
It would be better to bring evidence about what is actually going on in (some) schools. If kids are being taught divisive ideas, being evidence and discuss that.
CRT is a postmodern theory. It doesn’t have objective truth. It is based on perception, feelings and grievance.. not fact as is.
CRT is an interdisciplinary academic framework for examining the impact of systemic racism and discrimination on targeted groups and recommending remediation.
Wow this woman is wonderful
She is a racist shill.
So the pilgrims brought their slaves when they came here ?
Typical obscurantism. "Nothing to see here, folks." He should have slapped down a copy of Kendi's "How To Be an Antiracist" and asked her why it was being used in elementary schools.
@@kipwonder2233 Exactly. What school is it being taught and please provide the name and address of the school, not some school.
KENDI's book has nothing to do with CRT, in fact, CRT spends no time on individual anti-racism or racist efforts and focuses on systemic institutional racism. However, elementary school is a good place to teach values, but I am not surprised you don't think anti-racism is a value that should be taught.
go online and read the teaching materials/books/guidelines for CRT and then make your own decision about CRT. some of them are objective but some are really really crazy
Care to provide an example ?
@@tpmgx6 a quote for you from Khiara Bridges outlines: 'CRT rejects claims of meritocracy or “colorblindness.” '
Another "It recognizes that science (as demonstrated in the Human Genome Project) refutes the idea of biological racial differences.".
@@jnash158 You're citing that to a person, no? Where can we see the actual "really crazy" reading materials/books/guidelines you are talking about?
CRT is not taught in K-12.
Damn that woman is ridiculous.
To being with she says "We don't teach CRT" Ok, then there's no problem in banning it. Then she goes on to defend CRT which isn't being teached in schools because it's good actually...
Ummm I'm sorry what? Are you perhaps there to argue for its implementation? Otherwise, if it isn't used in the schools, then wether its good or not is a non-issue. Get your damn arguments in order.
Also how in the holy hell don't she, who seems to be a self proclaimed expert on CRT, know it originates from Marxist thought? I mean really, it's in the name, you don't need to be a savant for the realisation that CRT developed from critical theory, a variety of conflict theory, the core of Marxist ideology.
Because unlike you, she knows anti-CRTers have an ulterior motive; they want to declare a post-racial America by fiat and position black Americans as a permanent underclass. CRT is a GOOD way to examine the impact of systemic racism, and it is NOT taught in k-12, duh!
1. You're logic is incorrect. You have to show a pattern of CRT being a problem first. It would then make sense to ban CRT
2. Why would you ban a course taught in college?
3. If the argument was: should CRT be taught in schools, you would have a different perspective and conversation 👍
4. Please work on your spelling or do you want to ban proper grammar too? 🤔
The white guy has no understanding at all
I turn on the TV. I see this.. I walk through walmart.. there's giant posters about how marvelous black people are.. I go to school.. I get the same grade as a black kid.. he passes.. I fail.. I apply for a job.. they have a minority quota.. so they deny me.. and accept a black guy.. q group of black kids jump me and beat the hell outa me in middle school.. while loudly proclaiming how shitty I was specifically due to being white.. etc etc.. then after a lifetime of seeing and experiencing things like this.. I hear .. blacks are oppressed.. and whites are somehow privaleged.. even though.. I'm white.. and I'm one of the poorest people I know.. though I work a full-time job. Can anyone else see how this movement might be.. oh idk... mind numbing levels of infuriating to some people??
We’re going to need to vote Libertarian.
Is their anybody reading this, that would like to be treated as black people have been treated in the USA just send me a(👋)
Go back far enough in history and you'll find everyone has been treated badly at some time or another. Smart people concern themselves with the present, not the dead past.
@@nevbarnes1034 Smart people know there history
@@keydarichardson4599 Knowing history is one thing. A pathological obsession with it is another.
@@nevbarnes1034 Where is the obsession?
@@keydarichardson4599 You focussed on the wrong word. The significant word is "pathological" meaning morbid, diseased, unhealthy. You would be more healthy if you put the past behind you.
CRT is not being taught in public schools K-12 AND it is a subject taught in Law classes and graduate courses
It is renamed and broken up into various Leftist programs and practices. CRT is "see racism in everything". This is its core practice. So, it is easy to break it up to teach it at K-12. CRT practices keeping students looking for skin color, not character, personality or talents. It is part of a great dumbing down of the students in all grades.
The elements of CRT is being taught they call it diversity, equity and inclusion.
@@jutsu1 No they aren't. Please provide a school name and address where they, in other words stop talking abstract.
@@timberrr1126 That is BS, CRT is not taught in K-12. Here are questions from my CRT course. 1. Calculate the present value of the economic impact on Black people based on their exclusion from homestead programs. 2. Develop the legal justification for filing discriminatory claims. Does that sound like k-12 questions renamed or not?
You'll win me over if you can include all people over the world are racist against blacks in CRT in the conversation.
Arabs and even other blacks.
Their Prejudice!
America Blacks don't live under non-white Americans rules!
@@godzilla6490 My point is Black people will always deal with general racism where ever they travel, even in thier own nations.
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Tribalism?
Just like Russia and Ukraine! Smh
You ppl need to get this right...You're supposed to be Smart! Omg, yes Prejudice and Tribalism will always be a thing! But Racism is something different....
@@godzilla6490 not tribalism, they're globally notorious for being generally troublesome.
Why is 'whiteness' undesirable?
That’s a lie you have people in countries bleaching their skin to be white??? Get out of your bubble! The truth is out there you just have to want to know it!
I don't understand how spending all the time attacking a straw man of white people helps poor blacks eat
"All men are created equal" is not in the Constitution.
But I imagine that all crinkly yellow documents look the same to this guy.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the ...
The Declaration of Independence ...
Love her, she is just as great in person.
By definition, CRT is racist. Teach history. That's great. But using the lens of CRT is just wrong
Sen. Eliot insists that teachers are not being trained to teach divisive concepts. I just wonder how many years it is been since she taught school children.
It’s sad to me that we don’t take enjoyment in reflecting on the positive changes this country has made, maximizing exposure to the stories and works of inspiring black individuals and the continue to examine what changes must still be made as nothing is perfect and you’ve got eons of global slavery and an minuscule portion of human time on planet earth where there were movements against it that attempted to become their own governing bodies… if there is anything even remotely close to pride for white people that isn’t just a bunch of people wearing clothes and dancing and marching, white pride seems so shallow, it would be unclenching slave economies
Sooooooo if the democratic was "in the past" racist, THEN which party does the KKK and white supremacy support???? Which party is most racist when you compare the two?????the answer republican
She's a Marxist, and CRT, if believed, would lead a reasonable person to embrace a type of Marxism (based on racial inequalities, not "class" inequalities under traditional Marxism). She must be condemned.
There is no Marxism in CRT, there is no dialectic materialism or dictatorship of the proletariat or progression to communism, your claim is more BS anti-CRT scare tactics. CRT uses various academic disciplines to examine the impact of systemic racism - PERIOD. And it is not taught in K-12.
@@olliemck60 You're mostly correct. However, it's LIKE Marxism (so it's bad), but it's based on perceived RACIAL inequalities, not "class" inequalities. So it's not true Marxism, but it's just LIKE Marxism, so it must be stopped.
@@olliemck60 The LENS with which educators indoctrinate the children is CRT. Their SOLUTION is Marxist-like. But you are correct, there is no "CRT 101" class taught in kindergarten.
I would like to know who came up with this dumb idea, this seems like a dumb idea CRT when the founding fathers made the constitution and the bill of rights these men were slave owners who didn't want to pay taxes that Parliament was passing the king was an ornament, by then he had some power, but not like the Parliament and the PM and there was a revolt we know this, and then the American civil war and then the rise of the KKK they were slave owner who refused to change than the introduction of the "jim crow laws and segregation, the civil rights movement, this country will never heal due to this. and now we have to nonsense give it a rest way past time to heal I don't think it's possible.