The 30 year Freddie Gruber Quest
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- Опубликовано: 9 фев 2025
- We share the Freddie Gruber encounter John Hvasta had that haunted him for 30 years and ultimately changed his whole approach to and philosophy of drumming. Freddie Gruber was one of the most brilliant teachers in modern drumming. John had a chance meeting with him. Here, we talk generally with John about that meeting, what it meant for him then, and what it means for John's drumming today. John reveals a fundamental discovery, which he calls "Platforming", John made from the encounter with Freddie. He explains why it's such a crucial thing you need to know to always be sure you're going to be able to play what you want to play and express yourself fully through your drum set playing.
Body movement and placement allowing each drummer to achieve their own sound and rigor is a very high benchmark and worthy of further investigation and practice. Thanks for sharing!
Absolutely agree with that! We'll be posting a lot more about it. Fell free to share wisdom you develop on it or ask questions.
Great video thanks for sharing 👍🤟👏
Really glad you liked it. Anything else Jazz drumming related you'd like to see videos on let us know and we'll get one out for you.
Has anyone ever found an audio or video recording of Gruber actually playing drums? He only talks.
Even in this video, you state that during his “solo” he never actually hit the drums.
I've done a lot of searching and have never come across him playing. I think that's part of his beauty. If he didn't leave his playing behind nobody could imitate him. It's about the hardest thing in the world to be left having only your truest, highest self to get to know and come to love and honor. That's what Illegal Drumming is also wanting to influence drummers to do. Don't imitate others. Learn from your heroes, but break the damn rules! Become yourself! Each of us has something beautiful to contribute to the legacy.
@@JohnHvastaDrums :As a FRED GRUBER student I agree with you completely but your argument still won’t shut the GRUBER haters/doubters up It’s just a waste of time a losing battle they’re gonna believe what they wanna believe but we know better!
One of my best guitar teachers played air guitar
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Gruber could rock the spoons, enough said!!
Not a single video of Freddy playing. Check the drum channel where Freddy has everyone sit in front of snare drum & never plays a single note. I respect his history & students but always believed he blew smoke up everyone’s asses too. Part master teacher part bs artist….
Billy, a lot of folks see Freddie similarly. In our case, we're not here to argue one way or the other on that. But John did learn a lot in a way that haunted him for 30 years and influenced him to rethink his playing approach and majorly upped his playing. Those are the stories we hear from many of Freddie's students, many who are incredible players. I do wish we could check out Freddie's playing, but, hey, sometimes great teachers never play. As a matter of fact for the first four years I studied with John he never played once in front of me. It forced me not to imitate his style and to create my own, at least in lessons with him. I was still a young person who got sidetracked by trying to be a Tony Williams clone for a few years, but the times with John were very pure of that and changed my life and drumming profoundly. All reports are Freddie had the same effect on his students. Or, sure, could be he was a fraud, I guess. Don't think so, but I won't argue against it.
; no Billy you’re dead wrong! You have no idea what you’re talking about I studied with Freddie Gruber every week for over a quarter century and he was real deal!!! he was no BS artist sure he could get you angry sometimes but it had nothing to do with the studies! He knew the ins and outs of drum technique I went through all the books with him I saw him every week and when we sat down at the set there was no bullshit it was strictly business and he taught the real deal!
And if you and others like you can’t deal with that I don’t know what to tell you that’s your problem not mine! And not the guys who studied with him and got the real information from him! Talk to the students before you go off half cocked like that!
Interesting epiphanies. Perhaps you could discuss breathing...
Oh, breathing is the basic stuff of all performance. If you're not breathing right you'll get nothing but tension. Music itself either breathes right or chokes itself. I think you could say that the essence of what Freddie was doing was inviting and inciting his students to see their playing as breathing properly for what they wanted to make happen on the drums, in the music, and in and through their body. Great thing to bring up! Maybe we'll do a full video on that.
@@JohnHvastaDrums I've checked out some of your videos. Really nice drumming. You remind me of Mike Clark in how articulate you play...but your looseness is nice too. You convey authority on the drums and your voicing is nice. I'll be checking out more vids.
Uses German wrist on the ride cymbal lol
This is very interesting but I find it hard to grasp it regards ray
Gruber was hard to grasp, kind of by definition, if you will. Lessons from John here or from the many of Gruber's students out there would be a great way to grasp what he was teaching.
Thanks for replying to me thanks for your great videos all the best ray