How to use Octatrack for Backingtracks - Tutorial
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Here's a simple tutorial on how to use the Octatrack for backingtracks. When they're set up, why not also get familiar with how to apply some effects, and beat repeats on your backingtracks?
The Octatrack is a complex machine, but you don't need to go that much in depth to create a project with backing tracks. It's pretty straight forward.
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I dunno if it's because I've always had a thing for some complex things, and others no, and then some simple things can be the most complex thing. Octatrack feels like its just flowing so naturally for me. Your tutorials and those supportive of assisting others is a great thing.
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All that menu diving before ever playing a note ended my interest in the Octatrack. Thanks Cuckoo.
Make a template Just once and your set
Shortcut - function clear in naming files will clear the name given.
I sneaky spied the modified time on those folders - it must take a long time to make these awesome videos!
you are my favorite sound fx board/youtuber
+b trab 🤣
Man, every time I watch one of your videos I learn something!
I didn't know you could clear the FX page with Function and No, that's cool
+badaszewski it's the effects page button + clear to clear it. It's useful.
Those are real intros!
Buena música y los mejores videos.
I’m officially the 1K like on this ;) I just jumped the gun on the octatrack so I suspect your videos are going to be helpful!
Cuckoo I really love all your tutorials, there's no-one out there who explains things so well. How long did it take you to really be productive with Elektron gear? At the risk of getting flamed, I find it so hard to get my head around the interface. I'm not thick, and I'm pretty good with technology (have done a lot of software development in the past), but the Elektron interface is probably the most counter-intuitive I have used. When you keep having to stop to think what button combinations to press then for me it just gets in the way of making music :(
+Tim Shoebridge yeah I see what you're saying. It all loosened up for me when I got comfy with the Analog Keys. Prior to that I just didn't "get it". I had the A4, loved the sound, but at the time I really craved a keyboard. So the Keys did it. For me it has for a long time been all about the sound. "If it sounds good, it's worth learning". But more and more it's becoming more about "the jam". "If it jams well, it's worth learning".
Try to forget all your previous experience programming synths/drum machines/etc And try to start fresh with an open mind. At first it seems a bit counter intuitive until you pass some time with the machine, make mistakes, explore it, play with it not really trying to create something concrete. This helped me a lot.
owning 5 elektron boxes, I can tell you the octatrack is the most headache inducing one. Cuckoo owns my patreonage to his ability to make me understand it better.
The problem with the octatrack is that there are 1000 possibilities but you can only use 8 at once, there is no "default" way to use it, and a lot of the possibilities bring new problems.
I was finally able to make a full song on it after sitting in front for 15hours straight (not an hyperbole) after I just got super inspired by some events.
Words of advice: concentrate on what it can do, not what it cannot do (there is a lot in either camp and they can be equally ridiculous), RTFMx2, read a lot on elektronauts forums and watch a lot of youtube videos (especially dataline, cuckoo, halution, tarekith, bobeats, cabinet of curiosities... to name a few).
I hear you about the interface and it getting in the way of your flow. I found myself feeling the same using an MPC and the best trick for me is to .... talk to myself while I'm using "ok, let's clear the page, copy, paste this pattern, now entering this or that mode, setting this, blabla" just pretend you're cuckoo XD... this leads me to one of the most important thing:
ELEKTRON BOXES IN GENERAL WILL ONLY FLOW IF YOU SPEND A *LOT* OF TIME LEARNING AND PREPARING THINGS, they are *NOT* instant gratification machines, pretty much none of them are. Once you put in the work and master the thing, then you can freakin' fly.
so far for me I kinda learn about possibilities for hours on the web, then sit down and try to apply the knowledge regardless of results. Be persistent and try to aim at learning functions and how they interract with one another rather than making actual songs at the begining.
oh, and resampling is awesome!
@XC3N The Digi line is actually pretty easy and intuitive, they pretty much nailed it with this one, kept the gist of it while reducing the clutter. The sales speak volumes.
cool! But may be you have some idea how to bind different bpm because we play with a drummer under the click
Now I wanna hear that "bullshit" project 😂
This is exactly what I was looking for, wicked vid.
Ehi i have a question... is there any way to have a sort of pre-roll when clicking the button for the sample? So that if i am playing another instrument i can launch it maybe a quarter before the actual start of it in the song? Like in Ableton, for example. Thank you!
+Fabrizio Paterlini for live playing, its responding instantaneously. But for the use you're describing, more MPC style, perhaps, it's easier to just put it on the timeline in the sequencer.
You can do that when you change pattern, if you change the pattern any time before the end of the bar then the new pattern will start in time when the current pattern finishes. SO if you put one backing track on pattern 1 for instance and the next on pattern 2 then you can change from one to the other as you described
What im not getting! Why i only can load files from a single folder on my flash card when i change the tracks? is that because im working "within a project" ? How to get access to all the files on my card in one set? cheers for that!
14:48 "perhaps you are more contemporary, or crazy" !!
when u r doing the beat repeat, u can also u the repeat selections on button 7 or 8 for more rhythmic possibilities, even tho they are not lit up. I noticed u did not use them
Another great tutorial, Cuckoo! I assume it's possible to have the other tracks as Flex machines and playing back samples or live playing on the keyboard while the backing track is going, yes?
So, does the track automatically cut off when you hit another key, or can you start it playing a backing track and then hit another button to play, say, a sample of an arpeggio while still having the backing track playing?
Thank You!
love the mirror!! ahah
Great tutorials as always cuckoo :) May I ask what camera you are using? I'm in the market for a new one. Thanks!
+Dawless Jammin' thanks. This is shot with the Panasonic GH5. It's great.
I thought you were going to mention how to use the Scale Setup to switch the beat repeat to 3/4/triplet divisions on your 3/4 song.
¿¿ Someone knows where can I download "Music bt.wav", "Draw bt.wav", "Dance bt.wav" ??
Greetings from Spain Cuckoo. I am looking for a camera to make my videos of better quality and since I make content similar to yours, I wanted to know what you use in this video, thank you very much.
Backing tracks is what I bought it for.
Hello! Is it possible with this function, to start a track while the first one is still playing? for example the first track is ending and I press key 2 to start the second one. without feeling a clean cut.
Thank you
What if i load a sample that is longer than 64 bar? Is there a way to still play it fully? My problem is that the first trig on the first page replays the sample each time the fourth page finishes. A loop basically... I want it to fade out and only start when the sample length is reached
If you use trig conditions you can set the trig to play every second time, every third time etc. Or you can set up scaling per track, and let this particular track play slower than the other tracks.
Hi! Can i use oca track as a multi-track “live” looper? Sample first loop live, play it immediately, while first loop being played, sample the second loop, etc?
Thanks
Are your backing tracks of full length or are they shorter samples that are being looped upon playback via the OT? Is the latter possible (if I have, e.g., a drum break rather than a full backing track)?
If I would like to start the three tracks in the same time, using the transport control, which is the trigger configuration I have to use?
Looks like a great piece of kit. I know this is talking about backing-tracks, but it's my first time seeing it - it seems that it might be good for live-looping? I'm thinking that laying down some live percussion and playing with the beat repeat would be cool!
+Boxtape yeah it's great for looping. Search my videos for Octatrack and you'll see a few deeper tutorials and loop jams in there.
Hey Cuckoo, is it possible to send tempo sync via midi from the octatrack (as the master) while the backing tracks are playing? I was planning to use this method live and i wanted to chain a few other machines
It is a wonderful movie.
In my case, I would like to use many effects, so I will also use a neighbor track
Yeah neighbour tracks is a great way of adding a whole chain of possibilities.
Hello. I have a question. My genre is Electronicore
Is it possible to import/make a multiple backing tracks in this sampler? is it easy to load?
For example, my first song (project) is composed of 10 chopped wav parts files and I need to import them in the 16 buttons so i can play seperately in verse, chorus etc.
Let say after I used the first project in the first song with 10 chopped wav files for backing track, for the 2nd song i would be playing is another project with just only 5 chopped wav files for the backing track.
I'm sorry for my English ✌️
Cuckoo hi, a little question . How can i synchronize the tempo with the backing tracks and the samples
Does anyone set up backing tracks on the OT in sections? So that for instance specific parts of a song can be practiced.
is it possible to sample the full line like 5min of a full wave in it ?
Can different samples on the same track have different effects? Thanks!
Great!
One question Cuckoo :), is there a way to record this master track delay control trigs? trigless locks?... thanks!
Negative
Great video thanks! bur can you please tell me, is it possible to load multiple songs within one project and can they be as long as 4 - 5.. or even 6 minutes ? what is the limit to a whole song / per song ? thanks alot!!
Press function scale setup, in here increase it to 64/64, inf, 1/8 etc etc play around in here. Good luck.
@@fluxus_tr 64/64 sounds like its limited.. have you tried it ? im getting the MKII now
@@fluxus_tr its in trig conditions, load the track via usb.. set possibility to 1st. bingo done. the whole track plays on what ever trig button you set it to (1-16)
Could this all be done with the new Digitakt. If so, then the user experience would be far superior and of course the cost factor for the gear would be much less.
+GEW the Digitakt can't stream long stereo tracks from a Compact Flash card. It has to load mono samples into RAM first. The storage is 1GB. The RAM I'm not sure. Probably enough to do a few full length tracks. They're different
Your correct. Plus with out that hi-res slider (maybe in a Digitakt Pro version:-) the cool things you demo-ed would not be possible either.
Can you confirm that the digitakt has only got a 16 step sequencer. i can't find any mention of the usual 64 steps in any of the videos. PS Love your vids cuckoo. Your guide on sampling with the Octatrack has opened up the machine to me.
+oscillated it's like with the other. Four pages. Up to 64 steps per pattern.
Thanks for the info
10:10, 17:58
You were happier couple years ago :)
Im never going to get it sadly but good job anyways!(:
hi
its as easy as 1, 2, 3 ... 4, 5, 6 ... 7 ... 35 ... 863 ...
lol
Can confirm
gracias cuckoo!
nice beard!
Ba-- ck... BACKING!
This what nintendo uses?
Couldn't you just use OverBridge to eliminate having to use this tiny cryptic process.??
+GEW Overbridge is pretty cryptic too ;) But there's no Overbridge support for the Octatrack. It was the last instrument in the generation before Overbridge.
Ok, that is good to know. So I guess if your willing to put in the time, the Octatrack is pretty cool. Is there any current day piece of gear that would equal or surpass the Octatrak's functionality as a multi track system?
Digitakt (overbridge able) ;) but it has its limitations.... otherwise MPCs are pretty good at that, too.... but nothing can replace the octatrack.
There is no overbridge for octatrack but there is a librarian software you can use to do more comfortable edits (octaedit) it's not free and it's not fast, but it can make a difference for some tasks.
If you just want to play backing tracks, there are heaps of things you could use, if you want a sampling drum machine, there are plenty of better things, or as a midi seq, there are plenty of better things. if you want to do some of the more esoteric live sampling/resampling stuff, there is nothing else that really matches the OT, in my opinion.
Plus it's not that cryptic. It's easier than than the old elektribes, for example. where you need to rename all the samples to 00-99.wav You can drag and drop files from your pc with whatever file system you like.
You could use the program OctaEdit.
Second! :-)
Define "backing track" because I never heard what I would consider to be a backing track.
Haha maniac
Cuckoo is wacko