I’ve got one from around 1985 that’s been in my house since I was born, it was my dads and I just always assumed it didn’t work so it was in the attic for a long time. I found it again today and plugged it in and man it’s a great sounding little amp, the pots are crazy scratchy though but once it settles it sounds great
@@davestadel Hey Dave! I have a few of these, here's a little tip, the Lead 12 cab will accept a 12" speaker with some mods, not hard to do if you have some tools, and with a 12" speaker this little combo comes alive and blows minds! Try a Celestion G12H-100 which is the one Billy Gibbons used with his Lead 12 to record.. My Heads in Mississippi.
I recently picked one up from a pawn shop for real cheap. I really like that speaker jack you added. Still recommend replacing that speaker with a greenback. Only thing is I can't figure out what the hi and low inputs are for 🤷♂️
I have a late '80s 5005 in which I installed a UK made GreenBack. Cleans sound great. If I need, for Rock, I also have the mod you made with the jack ext speaker ouput. Through a 2x12 it sounds DANGEROUS... !! ;-) I also use the LOW input. The tone is more balanced.
I got one for $110 at a local pawn shop recently. Mine is a 2nd Gen with single output - circa 1985. It doesn't really start getting distorted til the gain is around 3 o'clock. Is that how they all are? All the guys in the forums say the Greenback speaker is the way to go.
@@cubo68 Greenback is good. I tried a Creamback too but wound up putting that into my 1965a cab. Both were good, on my to do list is recording a comparison.
I had that same version with the headphone out. The distortion on the amp was too brittle and harsh for me. Also it was very hard to get this amp to be at a low volume, the slightest nudge on the volume knob between zero and 1 would make my ears bleed. Imo these are not worth the money people are asking for them these days. The hype is over-blown imo.
Hey bro! I have a lead 12 clone (into a 2x10 cab) and a ts808 clone, but I have a little bit of difficult to get tones like Ratt, Dokken... Can you help me?
Not sure I can be too much help....guitar, and speaker type make a big difference, along with having some reverb or delay to fatten and smooth things out. I guess the first thing I'd try is cranking the gain up on the amp and pedal, and then cutting some mids back on that amp amp. The eq knobs on the Lead 12 are pretty effective. A Lead 12 + TS pedal setup is a little more of a gnarley tone than either of those bands had. They were more distorted, and also smoother. The Lead 12 with Master all the way up and gain down is a punchy (for its size) clean amp and could work if you used a different kind of distortion pedal, for instance a 5150, and not a Tube Screamer that is dryer and has such a mid-hump. Have fun with it.
I wish Marshall would make straight up solid state amps like they used to and like orange does instead of the modelling amps with 1000 bad presets. Also I feel like if you were really motivated you could squeeze a 12 inch in there although I could be wrong 😂
Who knows...the current tube availability issue may nudge more amp builders to make more solid state alternatives, like Fender is doing with the Tone Master series.
@@davestadel I think it will, hopefully not towards just a bunch modelling amps like the code and mustang series. A lot of companies have been doing the mini solid state heads like Friedman, which if they scaled up the BE Mini to 100 watts I'd be all over it haha
I’ve got one from around 1985 that’s been in my house since I was born, it was my dads and I just always assumed it didn’t work so it was in the attic for a long time. I found it again today and plugged it in and man it’s a great sounding little amp, the pots are crazy scratchy though but once it settles it sounds great
Excellent. have fun with it 👍
@@davestadel Hey Dave! I have a few of these, here's a little tip, the Lead 12 cab will accept a 12" speaker with some mods, not hard to do if you have some tools, and with a 12" speaker this little combo comes alive and blows minds! Try a Celestion G12H-100 which is the one Billy Gibbons used with his Lead 12 to record.. My Heads in Mississippi.
Just found one in the trash, terrible shape but it powers up and plays. A nice little rehab project for the summer.
that's excellent
I had one of these from round '87 got rid of it for $200 yrs ago 🤪🤪
These are fantastic little amps and powerful too.
I recently picked one up from a pawn shop for real cheap. I really like that speaker jack you added. Still recommend replacing that speaker with a greenback.
Only thing is I can't figure out what the hi and low inputs are for 🤷♂️
I've had 10" Greenback in mine now too. Nice improvement.
@@davestadel any clue on the difference between the hi and low inputs?
@@eze8024 high distorts more easily, low sounds better for clean tones
I have a late '80s 5005 in which I installed a UK made GreenBack. Cleans sound great. If I need, for Rock, I also have the mod you made with the jack ext speaker ouput. Through a 2x12 it sounds DANGEROUS... !! ;-) I also use the LOW input. The tone is more balanced.
I have the Lead 12 and the Lead 20. Both rock.
Never played a 20, they seem more difficult to come by than the 12. Must be a good little amp that no one wants to get rid of.
I got one for $110 at a local pawn shop recently. Mine is a 2nd Gen with single output - circa 1985. It doesn't really start getting distorted til the gain is around 3 o'clock. Is that how they all are? All the guys in the forums say the Greenback speaker is the way to go.
The gain on mine is the same way, really needs to be cranked. I've got a greenback in mine now and have a tried a cple other speakers too.
So the Greenback is the best replacement speaker?
@@cubo68 Greenback is good. I tried a Creamback too but wound up putting that into my 1965a cab. Both were good, on my to do list is recording a comparison.
Armed and Ready to start the clip is a win!
I had that same version with the headphone out. The distortion on the amp was too brittle and harsh for me. Also it was very hard to get this amp to be at a low volume, the slightest nudge on the volume knob between zero and 1 would make my ears bleed. Imo these are not worth the money people are asking for them these days. The hype is over-blown imo.
+5 just for the MSG riff
Hey bro! I have a lead 12 clone (into a 2x10 cab) and a ts808 clone, but I have a little bit of difficult to get tones like Ratt, Dokken... Can you help me?
Not sure I can be too much help....guitar, and speaker type make a big difference, along with having some reverb or delay to fatten and smooth things out. I guess the first thing I'd try is cranking the gain up on the amp and pedal, and then cutting some mids back on that amp amp. The eq knobs on the Lead 12 are pretty effective.
A Lead 12 + TS pedal setup is a little more of a gnarley tone than either of those bands had. They were more distorted, and also smoother. The Lead 12 with Master all the way up and gain down is a punchy (for its size) clean amp and could work if you used a different kind of distortion pedal, for instance a 5150, and not a Tube Screamer that is dryer and has such a mid-hump. Have fun with it.
@@davestadel hey bro,I'm planning to upgrade my lead12 speaker to a higher watts, preferably a celestion G10 vt jr 8ohms/50 watts..does it work's bro?
@@dagoldigol haven't heard one in a Lead 12, but I bet it'll be good. I've got a couple 10" speakers now I'll be testing in the next cple weeks.
@@davestadel I'ved bought here in the Philippines a couple of days ago, a second hand Japan surplus,it's cost only P4500.00 peso=$85..
Dude what is that guitar and what pickup is in that bridge? Sounds awesome!!
'88 Kramer Stagemaster with a Duncan Custom Custom humbucker
I wish Marshall would make straight up solid state amps like they used to and like orange does instead of the modelling amps with 1000 bad presets. Also I feel like if you were really motivated you could squeeze a 12 inch in there although I could be wrong 😂
Who knows...the current tube availability issue may nudge more amp builders to make more solid state alternatives, like Fender is doing with the Tone Master series.
@@davestadel I think it will, hopefully not towards just a bunch modelling amps like the code and mustang series. A lot of companies have been doing the mini solid state heads like Friedman, which if they scaled up the BE Mini to 100 watts I'd be all over it haha
12 inch fits fine!
@@royashby4111thats what she said
Next time use a bicycle inner tube and some super glue to patch speaker
That is way too much material, you would dampen the speaker way too much.
The coffee filter was great engineering.