I did not hype up the race in JA. Like I had said, it's only training and it was outdoors. 6.56s is respectable for his first international indoor 60m. He is getting acclimated to indoors after travelling accross continent and timezones. He won the race under same conditions and potential travel as the other competitors which is why the time he ran has be put in perspective. That's track and field. Winning matters and conditions must be placed in context.
Agreed....I said it on a few responses elsewhere. Indoor different and it was only the FIRST RACE in JA. People should also keep in mind that MVP uses 60m only as preparation. Trust and believe the Franno not concerned about 60m Championships.
The problem l am having with track and field is the fans . Some channels and fans are only looking at times . Let the runners develop and as fans we need to lower our expectation . All finals are not going to produce a world lead or world record . What really matters is winning the race .
It's like they don't understand split times, don't understand wind conversions, and still for some reason despite this sport being alive for more than a hundred years can't understand that athletes DON'T want to peak at the beginning of the season. I was literally getting pissed off cuz people thought all the pro athletes were "slow" before olypmics. Cant make this up
I have to comment here again because of some comments i think are misplaced. The time Kishane ran in Jamaica is correct and has to be taken in context. It was in Jamaica where he is at home in a near 90 degrees temperature. Anyone who ever ran track knows there is a difference when you run in 90 degrees vs 50 or 60 degrees. Secondly, Jamaica doesn't make timing systems nor wind gauges attached to said systems. So anyone who thinks these reading are wrong because they are in Jamaica are ignorant to the sport, plain and simple. I'll remind everyone of what was said in 2008 when Bolt ran 9.76 in the stadium and then ran 9.72 in NY a week later. Somehow the time in Jamaica was questioned but NY time which was a WR was somehow legit. Jamaica uses the same or better timing systems used as other parts of the world. As for the wind reading, I've said look at the time and not the wind reading for an outdoor 60m for many reasons which i won't get into but if you follow track and field as long as i have you'll know why. The time in JA was legit for an OUTDOOR 60m. Now his time at this meet has to be taken in context of travel and also climatic conditions so no surprise on the time. What matters is that he won the race well, relative to his competition. These indoor meets at these cold places are usually cold indoors as well. I've been to two indoor meets here in the US already this year and the temperature indoors was chilly and i had to keep my warm jacket on. All these are factors that come into play when evaluating and comparing times. Time in Jamaica was correct and so too was today's race in the context they were ran.
Well said! If it were Coleman or Noah who ran those times outdoors in said conditions here in the US he would not be questioning the legitimacy of the reported times.
Jamaica has been consistently producing top sprinters in the world every decade since the 1950s when they formally took up track and field on the world stage. Are you telling me there are people in the world who think Jamaica has faulty timing equipment just because it's a third world country? If anything, Jamaica has some of the best timing equipment and some of the strictest standards for track and field especially sprinting in the world. Anybody who holds any position along those lines does so either out of racism/classism/ethnocentrism or plain ignorance. A country producing the best male and female sprinters of all time, that holds or has held world records in multiple sprint events, produces the most sub-10 times in male 100 meters and the most sub 20 in the male 200 has held the male 100 Metre and 200 Metre world records with more than 2 people each, has women with the top 5 fastest times in the 100 since at least the 90s, won multiple gold, silver and bronze medals, swept the 100 meters women and 200 meters men and has figured prominently as contenders for sprint medals in every Olympics since Helsinki has faulty timing equipment? Anybody who holds that idea is clearly not a true fan of the sport and has no knowledge whatsoever of track and field.
Why are you saying he's out of control? He's Gorgeous. He's built like a line backer. He's tremendously fast and finding his way in a sport he loves! Sounds like He's IN Control to me!!....
The times ran by Kishane at Kazakhstan were not surprise to me. Considering his history in the 60m and his recent outdoor 60m race, I predicted that he would run somewhere between 6.4 high to 6.6 low, and that's exactly what happened. I think there have been overwhelming expectations from some fans that Kishane would run a 6.4 low or even a 6.3 from one race that was ran outdoors for his indoor season opener. Different atmospheres, different countries, and different conditions all played into each race. I think what Kishane did here in Kazakhstan was good, and I think once again, people need to hold their high expectations to a pause for someone like Kishane for multiple reasons. Firstly, Kishane is still young and very inexperienced competing at international meets compared to other athletes who have been doing so for 5-10-15+ years. Despite this, he still got the victory. Secondly, it seems he still has injury problems that are affecting him. Hopefully, Kishane is able to recover, gets to compete more often pain-free, and builds up towards Jamaican nationals to qualify for the Tokyo Worlds.
Yes what matters is the win 60 meters is not a guarantee for a win ie Christian Coleman for example didn’t make the USA Olympic finals Kishane start is the main issue - slow start
Everybody damn near pr's in that 60m outdoor in that race And everyone had the nerve to try to say it was a head wind. Anyone with eyeballs could see it was a tail wind!
@@stephenwilliams7200 Personally, I'm not going to question the legitimacy of the race. But I will say again, a lot of people overestimated and thought Kishane would run an easy 6.4 mid, 6.4 low or even a 6.3 because of the wind reading. It's too soon to attach these numbers to Kishane especially with how he's still developing and still dealing with minor niggles and aching injuries from time to time.
@@Objectivity-w5j 6.49-6.63 to be exact for my prediction. Some people said he was going to run 6.4 mid or 6.4 low or even 6.3 for this meet which I didn't think was realistic given the circumstances.
Kashane was great 👍🏾 in January that tells me that he’s gonna have a great year congratulation my Jamaican brother the best is yet to come in 2025 get ready get ready for Kesha Thompson 🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
What is your implication for you to be keep saying "according to what they told us"? Kishane runs faster in a more relaxed atmosphere. Just don't belittle Jamaica timing or sprinting.
No intention to belittle. Wind readings are always an estimate. The technology itself is archaic in my opinion. I have personally run races where the end results and the wind readings did not match. It only matters because that wind reading sent a lot of people into a hypothetical discussion to "calculate" what he might have ran. And those times got faster and faster depending on who was sharing the calculations. That did set expectations that are very high for him, so the hype around this Astana race, matches that speculation.
Kishane is a phenome, however, I worry about his health. he didnt look confident during the meet. It was like something was bothering him. He had the same look Noah lyles gave during the Paris 200m final. After , the finals you could see he was in distress as he sat down grinning.If not for the injury worry and injury scares from him, I believe his talent has no ceiling.
The commentator said it didn’t look like an injury but as you watched him walk off he had a slight limp. Even in the slow motion video he grimaced at the end. They are pushing the Kishanne narative to hype up the new season, I hope he up for the pressure and popularity about to hit him.
I think he did exactly what his coach told him to do. Just get the experience, focus on form, and don't worry about time. He got left in the blocks in the Sem and Finals.
The comparison with college athletes is different mane Kishane, he’ll get right when the time matters. He just need some more circuit races in the 60m travel wise. He’s like a babe to 60m compare to all the other guys especially in the U.S. and indoors to be exact. People hold too much expectation. Enjoy the sport and times will come when time, preparation and atmosphere is right and most importantly when the athletes in the best of health.
He probably had a cold or flu on his insta was a meme about getting sick probably that's why . He's from a country that's warm 24/7 and mildly cool during this time of the year to travel extremely long hours to extremely cold places would f anybody up even a sprinter like him. Hell he even said he had no sleep after one of the races The fact he won still even after all that is crazzyyy I hope that situation after the final was just a tweak and nothing else or it would be like last year in a sense where he got injured in January and ofcourse when you're in your country you're going to feel more at ease than anything. I think the coaches need to work on the mental aspect to get him to run faster with ease Nishion on the other hand its the dude's first international meet with a lot of condition changes as well like Kishane he had long hour travel difference in weather and what not. He still had a sonic esque start but he just couldn't finish strong probably due to nerves and jetlag. For his first I'm happy for him Rohan Watson did well too as he was in the top eight He has a lot of work to do but in due time he will get there for sure All in all Im proud of them They made us proud
All excellent points and we are on the same page! Personally, I’m starting to think Kishane’s starts may be taking a little off his top. I do believe he may be able to go sub 6.4, although I am beginning to think his faster starts leave him at 9.7, whereas if he takes a little off that start, we may be able to see his top speed fully do its thing. I feel I’ve learned a lot from that Paris final from hiim…Fred pushed him so had in the beginning that his top speed was nowhere close to Noah’s. However, that Jamaican trials race showed Kishane has amazing top speed, so, I’m wondering how his start and top speed/maintenance will balance out this season.
He didn't have a great start, so not surprised about his time. Plus the race was in Kazakhstan of all places, so who knows how his travel there went. And even though it was indoors, it was still cold in Astana (it was around zero degrees fahrenheit), so maybe his body just didn't adjust to the conditions.
First of all a lot of those other athletes are already acclimatize to that type of weather because of where they're from. Secondly a lot of them are also significantly more experienced at indoors than he is. So Kishane the inexperienced, unacclimatize new kid on the block still managed to give them all a good @$$ whipping! Gooooo Kishane! Jamaica to flipping World!! #AWeStillAWin 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲 @@JohnDoe-ty6sv
You are so on point!! Kishane is definitely not used to this cold weather plus we have to factor travelling, jetlag, adaptation to New environment etc. This is the reason the great Usain Bolt didn't compete in the indoors!! Frankly speaking, the Jamaican Athletes DON'T thrive in the cold!! Check the history of all the elite Athletes from Jamaica!
@@JohnDoe-ty6svu talking like he lost the race. He won his first ever indoor 60 over guys with way more indoor experience. And the conditions may be the same to everyone, but not everyone reacts the same. Hell he was seeing snow for the first time and was clearly having the 🤧 after the race.
Kishane made the podium last year Olympics on the world stage .. Give him time …. Don’t underestimate or talk about Jamaica or any other country- … It seems like a bit of sarcasm. The clock was correct … tropical weather- I don’t recall Bolt didn’t have a 60 meters indoor - His 60 m calculated “Usain Bolt's calculated time for the 60-meter sprint is 6.31 seconds”--Yes calculated Just like Kishane calculated time bases on the head wind 6:39-6:42
Let’s see how it plays out everyone has great points in the comment section. Every race is different the kicker is staying consistent. He’s a dawg let’s see him work. Praying for his health
Is Coach Rob doubting the 60m time and head wind speed Keshane ran on prior to his indoor event or I am misunderstanding his point? I get the whole indoor Vs outdoor events being totally different.
I predicted a 6.55 for his indoor debut, also keep in mind that its freezing cold in Astana. he should honestly never run another indoor race, there isn't enough space for a big guy like him to decelerate indoors and his top end speed is what he needs to work on not his start, I also never thought much of that (-2.1) 6.48 because the wind was fluctuating the entire meet.
Yes, the americans have been saying our system isn't credible for a long while now 😂 even when usain bolt ran 9.76 and had to prove it by breaking the world record in usa and they still have not learn their lesson 😂
@@brentontaylor4878 Dude just talkin. And the clocking wasn't credible the wind reading is POTENTIONALLY false. If he was running into a head wind running a similar time again indoors shouldn't have been an issue, plus everyone decided to move the expectation for him all the way up to 6.3 low? idk why? but anyways because you jamaicans think everyones a hater for some reason, if kishane stays healthy I have him going 6.38-6.41 for possibly gold in indoor champs and im basing this off his olympics split.
@@Firm2of2 the season just started. Noah lyles ran 6.62 yesterday which is much slower than what kishane ran and i'm not hearing you americans saying nothing about that
@@Firm2of2 it is funny how you americans talking about credible wind when flo joe 10.49 record is still there, that should have not happened, that's carelessness and that is why track and field is not going no where
@@brentontaylor4878 yo gang. First off not american. Second It's the BEGINNING of the season. Everyone WILL run slow. If you watch track you should already know that for one and two again yall set the expectation for kishane at 6.3 low. Use your head. When you do that and dont perform OF COURSE everyone is going to talk. I'm literally looking at instagram comment section where kishane is being given every excuse in the world but I guess.
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Coach, I really like your takes esp when you are on Final Leg. However, I would look forward to watching your videos so much more if you got to the point. Please.
Don’t think the 60 m matters that much. Bolt was terrible in the first half of races but always made up ground and won in the last 50 meters. Ultimately I think this will help Kishane in the 100’s as it will make him fine tune the first half of the 100 m. But don’t think it’s a crisis if someone as tall and muscular as him doesn’t win the 60 m. This format favors the small lighter guys.
I am just watching to see how fast he can run this season. I am not putting any limitation on him he is still young and inexperienced compared to the others. He may surprise me who knows.
I agree the circumstances of travel in pro track are pretty challenging. Everyone in that race had to travel to Astana for the most part. Indoor track however, exists because the weather is cold outside. So it should have minimal impact on the actual race performance, or even warming up and practicing days before because you do it in a temperature controlled environment. Ultimately in pro track when you run your reputation is on the line. And Kishane won a pro race which should be what matters most... But people seem to care more about the clock than anything else. That is why when he ran a fast clock the week before, some people discredited it as not matching up competitively with indoor times. But those who are Kishane fans are inclined to believe the performance was as dominant as the clock suggested. Here we are a week later and the narrative has reversed. Other athletes around the world, both indoors and outdoors ran faster clocks, and some look for a narrative to explain why Kishane's performance is still "better" because he won. But that clock reading doesn't match up with the claims. Fundamentally the only thing we can trust in track and field is winning. But if that were the belief of everyone, we would celebrate Noah Lyles as the Olympic gold medalist without looking to undermine the victory and say he did not have the "fastest" time of the year. Seems like we as track fans struggle to remain consistent about what matters most to us in the athletes we love and support.
@@SCATrackandField people???? So you are PEOPLE now? You’re the one who obviously has an issue with his performance in that race regardless of the fact that it was his first indoor race of the season and of his career overall and he won both his heat and the final. At this point you can actually do a damage control and just retract your uncalled for snide comments.
I get you're an African American and need to push your chest up against Jamaicans but your bais is showing. You have the words Track and Field in your title. That means you should be far more educated on the speed of tracks affecting races. Jamaica hot climate does plays a role in the speed of the tracks. There was another YT who actually wonder this indoor track was like racing through molasses due to all of the racers slower times. Track speed in and of itself does matter.
I am disappointed you feel the need to bring race or ethnicity into your comment. It’s ok to disagree with something I said, or even did not clarify. It would be easier to receive without making the point connected to other things. I wish you the best.
Everyone thinking too deep about this. Overall i think he needs to run a maybe one or two more indoor meets and call it a day. Indoors especially when you have such a build as his is not the best on the body. Im sure his coach knows this. Kishane might feel like he still has a chip over his shoulder after the Olympics but again i think he should think of longevity for Worlds
Coach Rob, you are so biased towards the US Athletes!! You couldn't just credit Kishane Thompson for winning, you are talking about his time in a very cold weather which he is not accustomed to plus his travelling and possibly jetlag body not running the same time as he ran in the conditions he is well familiar with!!! You criticise Kishane Thompson for only running 6.56 but Noah Lyles runs 6.62 and the headlines says: "Noah Lyles opens his season with blistering time in the 60m indoor"!! Kmt....hypocrisy is the strongest trait you possess!!! Even if we disregard the 6.48 Kishane ran in Jamaica, he still has the fastest 60m time of the year so far, he ran faster than Noah Lyles and Noah didn't have any elite competitors in his race!! At least Kishane defeated the defending champion!!! Congratulations to Kishane Thompson for his great season openers, well done!!! BTW, your comparison about 60m indoor champions usually run faster in outdoor 100m races is absolute crap!!! The GOAT Sprinter and world record holder for 100m and 200m, Usain Bolt never won a 60m Indoors title. Neither did one of the greatest female Sprinters of all times, Elaine Thompson Herah. Check your history, Jamaican Athletes don't really like competing in the cold weather and hence, they don't place much emphasis on same!! Especially if they live and train in Jamaica!! Astana is way too cold for our Athletes so you won't get the best out for us. Nonetheless, Jamaica won both male and female 60m indoor finals in Astana!!!! Speak facts and stop being so biased and critical of the Jamaican Athletes Sir!!!
I respect your opinion. I do endeavor to be critical of all the athletes while celebrating their successes. Hopefully my next video addresses some of your concerns. I will point out that both Shelly Ann Fraser-Pryce and Veronica Campbell-Brown are Indoor World Champions, so they did not seem to have much issue competing and beating everyone in "colder" climates.
Is he even that good of a coach? Seems like some dude with a big mouth and a camera to me cosplaying as a coach. Has he ever ran in his life or ever coached an athlete that did anything better than enter an elementary school race? Until he comes up with proof, then he is just an interloper who has a camera and an opinion and clearly knows nothing about how track and field works.
There wasn't a negative wind in kishane Thompson s race in Jamaica, according to the banners and a plastic bag tied on the fence .They lied about the -2.1 headwind.
You're just everywhere with this 🗑️🗑️🗑️ you need some good Jamaican coconut water to wash off that dirty little heart of yours. You're obviously reeked with bad mind, jealousy and envy. You need some serious prayers. I feed bad for you when Kishane gets the experience he needs and truly gets into his running! You're going to need an EpiPen. May God help you! 💯 #prayersupforthisdude
@ I don’t think you understood what I meant, but that’s okay. If you were there in person, you’d know the race had a strong tailwind. For your information, +2.1 m/s is considered wind-aided. This would adjust his 6.48s to about 6.52s, which sounds more reasonable given that he ran 6.56s today.
next time you guys should pay attention to banners in track meets and ask yourself if the wind readings say what they’re actually projected. Then you guys won’t be so underwhelmed with results 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
Why would we be underwhelmed? He still ran fast and won so we're very proud of him. This is only the beginning my Guy! So go sit down somewhere with that 🗑️🗑️🗑️ talk 😊💯
Coach Rob Kishane enter into unfamiliar Territory which is totally a first time him, I’m not going bring up the traveling halfway around the world.. I know because of his speed winning doesn’t mean win for he’s being judged on the way he wins, which is fine for me as a far.. People Eliminate all the possible obstacle’s that might Slightly diminish his Performance that they were anticipated.. Lots of people in Jamaica is totally against him going indoors and risking injuries.. You can forget about seeing him indoors again plus frano and all his former athletes never stay indoors for long thats something he doesn’t believe in..
Christian Coleman didn’t even make it to the Olympics 100m Winning 60 m is good but the World Championship , Olympics and winning the 100m meets weighs more !!
shut up. When USA clock shows a time it is legal. When it's the clock in Jamaica, it's what you're told. Jamaica could fall in NY and leave space so why is " Goliath" so worked up about "David"?😂
You speak crop it you are an athlete or were an athlete you kno that different climate affect your performance especially if you are not use to cold or heat……. Stop spreading this false information on your plot-form that is misleading ppl
I understand the climate can have an impact, but I think my comments were just stating the facts about his performance. People have incredibly high expectations for Kishane. I have no doubt he has the talent to win big on the brightest of stages. But in a track and field world where people care about the clock, he did not run as fast as many assumed him to be capable of in that particular race. I have always been a proponent of a track and field world where we care more about winning and competing than simply "fast times". Because times can be somewhat misleading. It appears you agree with me since you are concerned about all the variables that impacted him to run a slower time. If the emphasis from fans of the sport was on winning, it would be a lot easier to focus on that as the main story. I wish that it was, but fans do not seem to agree. Some of the same people who defend Kishane's "slower" time in Astana, are the ones who discredit Noah Lyles for winning Olympic gold, because Kishane had a faster "time" that season. I personally don't think it can work both ways...
Who in their right mind would wany to copy Noah? Jumping all about and painting nails and all that...? " His roar is not as loud as noah's ", Kishane copy that roar from Broly an anime character, not Lyles. Get yo facts straight and stip dihh riding noah😂😂
Dude!!! This was his first indoor race ever. And he won. Chill and enjoy the show.
Should have told that to the people who were losing their minds over that 6.48 into minus 2 headwind.
It’s still the fastest time this year.He definitely will lower it.
And yes, he won, but is not like he was so much farther away from the rest of the field
@@seanwilson5516 seems you have an issue with the young man
@@Dentsun4228 Who cares? A win is a win. Quite the same when he ran and was beaten by Noah.....
I did not hype up the race in JA. Like I had said, it's only training and it was outdoors. 6.56s is respectable for his first international indoor 60m. He is getting acclimated to indoors after travelling accross continent and timezones. He won the race under same conditions and potential travel as the other competitors which is why the time he ran has be put in perspective. That's track and field. Winning matters and conditions must be placed in context.
💯 that also why I didn’t hype it up it’s the context in which you win that matters that separates you from the rest
Agreed....I said it on a few responses elsewhere. Indoor different and it was only the FIRST RACE in JA. People should also keep in mind that MVP uses 60m only as preparation. Trust and believe the Franno not concerned about 60m Championships.
Just a thought...coach may have put him back under heavy load...
The problem l am having with track and field is the fans . Some channels and fans are only looking at times . Let the runners develop and as fans we need to lower our expectation . All finals are not going to produce a world lead or world record . What really matters is winning the race .
It's like they don't understand split times, don't understand wind conversions, and still for some reason despite this sport being alive for more than a hundred years can't understand that athletes DON'T want to peak at the beginning of the season. I was literally getting pissed off cuz people thought all the pro athletes were "slow" before olypmics. Cant make this up
I have to comment here again because of some comments i think are misplaced.
The time Kishane ran in Jamaica is correct and has to be taken in context. It was in Jamaica where he is at home in a near 90 degrees temperature. Anyone who ever ran track knows there is a difference when you run in 90 degrees vs 50 or 60 degrees.
Secondly, Jamaica doesn't make timing systems nor wind gauges attached to said systems. So anyone who thinks these reading are wrong because they are in Jamaica are ignorant to the sport, plain and simple. I'll remind everyone of what was said in 2008 when Bolt ran 9.76 in the stadium and then ran 9.72 in NY a week later. Somehow the time in Jamaica was questioned but NY time which was a WR was somehow legit. Jamaica uses the same or better timing systems used as other parts of the world. As for the wind reading, I've said look at the time and not the wind reading for an outdoor 60m for many reasons which i won't get into but if you follow track and field as long as i have you'll know why. The time in JA was legit for an OUTDOOR 60m.
Now his time at this meet has to be taken in context of travel and also climatic conditions so no surprise on the time. What matters is that he won the race well, relative to his competition. These indoor meets at these cold places are usually cold indoors as well. I've been to two indoor meets here in the US already this year and the temperature indoors was chilly and i had to keep my warm jacket on.
All these are factors that come into play when evaluating and comparing times. Time in Jamaica was correct and so too was today's race in the context they were ran.
Your implication exposes your ignorance.
Jamaicas track and field equipment and methods are first class., my reply is intended for the absurd implication on the video
@@enviro-best2175What am I implying?
Well said! If it were Coleman or Noah who ran those times outdoors in said conditions here in the US he would not be questioning the legitimacy of the reported times.
Jamaica has been consistently producing top sprinters in the world every decade since the 1950s when they formally took up track and field on the world stage. Are you telling me there are people in the world who think Jamaica has faulty timing equipment just because it's a third world country? If anything, Jamaica has some of the best timing equipment and some of the strictest standards for track and field especially sprinting in the world. Anybody who holds any position along those lines does so either out of racism/classism/ethnocentrism or plain ignorance.
A country producing the best male and female sprinters of all time, that holds or has held world records in multiple sprint events, produces the most sub-10 times in male 100 meters and the most sub 20 in the male 200 has held the male 100 Metre and 200 Metre world records with more than 2 people each, has women with the top 5 fastest times in the 100 since at least the 90s, won multiple gold, silver and bronze medals, swept the 100 meters women and 200 meters men and has figured prominently as contenders for sprint medals in every Olympics since Helsinki has faulty timing equipment?
Anybody who holds that idea is clearly not a true fan of the sport and has no knowledge whatsoever of track and field.
Your speaking has significantly improved. Continued success Coach.
😂...quiet shade?
Why are you saying he's out of control? He's Gorgeous. He's built like a line backer. He's tremendously fast and finding his way in a sport he loves! Sounds like He's IN Control to me!!....
@@taylorsara1237 Rob is just bitter because he’s not an American & he’s not representing America. Sore loser!!!
The times ran by Kishane at Kazakhstan were not surprise to me. Considering his history in the 60m and his recent outdoor 60m race, I predicted that he would run somewhere between 6.4 high to 6.6 low, and that's exactly what happened. I think there have been overwhelming expectations from some fans that Kishane would run a 6.4 low or even a 6.3 from one race that was ran outdoors for his indoor season opener. Different atmospheres, different countries, and different conditions all played into each race. I think what Kishane did here in Kazakhstan was good, and I think once again, people need to hold their high expectations to a pause for someone like Kishane for multiple reasons.
Firstly, Kishane is still young and very inexperienced competing at international meets compared to other athletes who have been doing so for 5-10-15+ years. Despite this, he still got the victory. Secondly, it seems he still has injury problems that are affecting him. Hopefully, Kishane is able to recover, gets to compete more often pain-free, and builds up towards Jamaican nationals to qualify for the Tokyo Worlds.
Yes what matters is the win
60 meters is not a guarantee for a win ie Christian Coleman for example didn’t make the USA Olympic finals
Kishane start is the main issue - slow start
Everybody damn near pr's in that 60m outdoor in that race And everyone had the nerve to try to say it was a head wind. Anyone with eyeballs could see it was a tail wind!
@@stephenwilliams7200 Personally, I'm not going to question the legitimacy of the race. But I will say again, a lot of people overestimated and thought Kishane would run an easy 6.4 mid, 6.4 low or even a 6.3 because of the wind reading. It's too soon to attach these numbers to Kishane especially with how he's still developing and still dealing with minor niggles and aching injuries from time to time.
6.4 and 6.6 is a huge gap tho. Thats not much of a prediction. 🤣🤣
@@Objectivity-w5j 6.49-6.63 to be exact for my prediction. Some people said he was going to run 6.4 mid or 6.4 low or even 6.3 for this meet which I didn't think was realistic given the circumstances.
Kashane was great 👍🏾 in January that tells me that he’s gonna have a great year congratulation my Jamaican brother the best is yet to come in 2025 get ready get ready for Kesha Thompson 🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
What is your implication for you to be keep saying "according to what they told us"? Kishane runs faster in a more relaxed atmosphere. Just don't belittle Jamaica timing or sprinting.
Exactly! I don't know what's that about.
Something nothing adding up
You people are arrogant. The greatest sprinters overall are black American. Just facts.
No intention to belittle. Wind readings are always an estimate. The technology itself is archaic in my opinion. I have personally run races where the end results and the wind readings did not match. It only matters because that wind reading sent a lot of people into a hypothetical discussion to "calculate" what he might have ran. And those times got faster and faster depending on who was sharing the calculations. That did set expectations that are very high for him, so the hype around this Astana race, matches that speculation.
@@spider-man1918Saying that while jamaica has 3 of the top 4 fastest men of all time with 5% the population of black Americans, with worse facilities
Kishane is a phenome, however, I worry about his health. he didnt look confident during the meet. It was like something was bothering him. He had the same look Noah lyles gave during the Paris 200m final. After , the finals you could see he was in distress as he sat down grinning.If not for the injury worry and injury scares from him, I believe his talent has no ceiling.
The commentator said it didn’t look like an injury but as you watched him walk off he had a slight limp. Even in the slow motion video he grimaced at the end. They are pushing the Kishanne narative to hype up the new season, I hope he up for the pressure and popularity about to hit him.
I think he did exactly what his coach told him to do. Just get the experience, focus on form, and don't worry about time. He got left in the blocks in the Sem and Finals.
The comparison with college athletes is different mane Kishane, he’ll get right when the time matters. He just need some more circuit races in the 60m travel wise. He’s like a babe to 60m compare to all the other guys especially in the U.S. and indoors to be exact. People hold too much expectation. Enjoy the sport and times will come when time, preparation and atmosphere is right and most importantly when the athletes in the best of health.
He probably had a cold or flu on his insta was a meme about getting sick probably that's why .
He's from a country that's warm 24/7 and mildly cool during this time of the year to travel extremely long hours to extremely cold places would f anybody up even a sprinter like him. Hell he even said he had no sleep after one of the races
The fact he won still even after all that is crazzyyy I hope that situation after the final was just a tweak and nothing else or it would be like last year in a sense where he got injured in January and ofcourse when you're in your country you're going to feel more at ease than anything. I think the coaches need to work on the mental aspect to get him to run faster with ease
Nishion on the other hand its the dude's first international meet with a lot of condition changes as well like Kishane he had long hour travel difference in weather and what not. He still had a sonic esque start but he just couldn't finish strong probably due to nerves and jetlag. For his first I'm happy for him
Rohan Watson did well too as he was in the top eight He has a lot of work to do but in due time he will get there for sure
All in all Im proud of them They made us proud
Well said! 💯
Please do a video on Lachlan Kennedy from Australia, who just ran 6.43 for 60m!
All excellent points and we are on the same page! Personally, I’m starting to think Kishane’s starts may be taking a little off his top. I do believe he may be able to go sub 6.4, although I am beginning to think his faster starts leave him at 9.7, whereas if he takes a little off that start, we may be able to see his top speed fully do its thing. I feel I’ve learned a lot from that Paris final from hiim…Fred pushed him so had in the beginning that his top speed was nowhere close to Noah’s. However, that Jamaican trials race showed Kishane has amazing top speed, so, I’m wondering how his start and top speed/maintenance will balance out this season.
My money is on Kishane Thompson for this season. 2024 world fastest man will be World Champion in 2025
So Noah Lyles?
I agree! Especially now since he's getting all the experiences and exposure that he needs.
@@AzuJ1 what about Noah? Did Kishane not run the fastest time in 2024?
@@wallyd6380 yea he just needs some good races under his belt 👍
The world's fastest man is the 100 meter olympic champion! Has always been that way!
He didn't have a great start, so not surprised about his time. Plus the race was in Kazakhstan of all places, so who knows how his travel there went. And even though it was indoors, it was still cold in Astana (it was around zero degrees fahrenheit), so maybe his body just didn't adjust to the conditions.
@@JohnDoe-ty6svand everyone reacts differently and had different arrival times, so their results differ
First of all a lot of those other athletes are already acclimatize to that type of weather because of where they're from. Secondly a lot of them are also significantly more experienced at indoors than he is. So Kishane the inexperienced, unacclimatize new kid on the block still managed to give them all a good @$$ whipping! Gooooo Kishane! Jamaica to flipping World!! #AWeStillAWin 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲 @@JohnDoe-ty6sv
You are so on point!! Kishane is definitely not used to this cold weather plus we have to factor travelling, jetlag, adaptation to New environment etc. This is the reason the great Usain Bolt didn't compete in the indoors!! Frankly speaking, the Jamaican Athletes DON'T thrive in the cold!! Check the history of all the elite Athletes from Jamaica!
@@JohnDoe-ty6sv Noah is this you? 💅🤡🎪
@@JohnDoe-ty6svu talking like he lost the race. He won his first ever indoor 60 over guys with way more indoor experience. And the conditions may be the same to everyone, but not everyone reacts the same. Hell he was seeing snow for the first time and was clearly having the 🤧 after the race.
Kishane made the podium last year Olympics on the world stage .. Give him time
…. Don’t underestimate or talk about Jamaica or any other country- … It seems like a bit of sarcasm. The clock was correct … tropical weather- I don’t recall Bolt didn’t have a 60 meters indoor - His 60 m calculated
“Usain Bolt's calculated time for the 60-meter sprint is 6.31 seconds”--Yes calculated
Just like Kishane calculated time bases on the head wind 6:39-6:42
Go sym .
Let’s see how it plays out everyone has great points in the comment section. Every race is different the kicker is staying consistent. He’s a dawg let’s see him work. Praying for his health
Is Coach Rob doubting the 60m time and head wind speed Keshane ran on prior to his indoor event or I am misunderstanding his point?
I get the whole indoor Vs outdoor events being totally different.
I predicted a 6.55 for his indoor debut, also keep in mind that its freezing cold in Astana. he should honestly never run another indoor race, there isn't enough space for a big guy like him to decelerate indoors and his top end speed is what he needs to work on not his start, I also never thought much of that (-2.1) 6.48 because the wind was fluctuating the entire meet.
It’s indoor, weather outside doesn’t matter
@thegreatdel9679 Not necessarily
It was a +2.1 tail wind! Why you think most pr in that race?
@@stephenwilliams7200-2.1 headwind*
@@stephenwilliams7200 high possibility
Can someone explain to why someone like Kishane is running in Kazakhstan but not in Boston or NY this indoors?
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He got invited and he took it.
My youth needs to work and him start but I know him new to this but we expect better as he put in more races
What you mean that’s what they told us? So our clocking system isn’t credible?
Yes, the americans have been saying our system isn't credible for a long while now 😂 even when usain bolt ran 9.76 and had to prove it by breaking the world record in usa and they still have not learn their lesson 😂
@@brentontaylor4878 Dude just talkin. And the clocking wasn't credible the wind reading is POTENTIONALLY false. If he was running into a head wind running a similar time again indoors shouldn't have been an issue, plus everyone decided to move the expectation for him all the way up to 6.3 low? idk why? but anyways because you jamaicans think everyones a hater for some reason, if kishane stays healthy I have him going 6.38-6.41 for possibly gold in indoor champs and im basing this off his olympics split.
@@Firm2of2 the season just started. Noah lyles ran 6.62 yesterday which is much slower than what kishane ran and i'm not hearing you americans saying nothing about that
@@Firm2of2 it is funny how you americans talking about credible wind when flo joe 10.49 record is still there, that should have not happened, that's carelessness and that is why track and field is not going no where
@@brentontaylor4878 yo gang. First off not american. Second It's the BEGINNING of the season. Everyone WILL run slow. If you watch track you should already know that for one and two again yall set the expectation for kishane at 6.3 low. Use your head. When you do that and dont perform OF COURSE everyone is going to talk. I'm literally looking at instagram comment section where kishane is being given every excuse in the world but I guess.
Bro dude was going all out he slept deliberately in he blocks
Australia's Lachlan Kennedy just ran 6.43 outdoors.
Thoughts of USC long jumper JC Stevenson running a 6.5?
Nishion caught a flyer in Jamaica
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So who else doubts that the world record might finally go?...
Coach, I really like your takes esp when you are on Final Leg. However, I would look forward to watching your videos so much more if you got to the point. Please.
Don’t think the 60 m matters that much. Bolt was terrible in the first half of races but always made up ground and won in the last 50 meters. Ultimately I think this will help Kishane in the 100’s as it will make him fine tune the first half of the 100 m. But don’t think it’s a crisis if someone as tall and muscular as him doesn’t win the 60 m. This format favors the small lighter guys.
I am just watching to see how fast he can run this season. I am not putting any limitation on him he is still young and inexperienced compared to the others. He may surprise me who knows.
Anybody with eyeballs could see that that was a tail wind!
You try going on a 16-hour flight to a country that is night when in your country its day . Plus °11 weather please
I agree the circumstances of travel in pro track are pretty challenging. Everyone in that race had to travel to Astana for the most part. Indoor track however, exists because the weather is cold outside. So it should have minimal impact on the actual race performance, or even warming up and practicing days before because you do it in a temperature controlled environment. Ultimately in pro track when you run your reputation is on the line. And Kishane won a pro race which should be what matters most... But people seem to care more about the clock than anything else. That is why when he ran a fast clock the week before, some people discredited it as not matching up competitively with indoor times. But those who are Kishane fans are inclined to believe the performance was as dominant as the clock suggested. Here we are a week later and the narrative has reversed. Other athletes around the world, both indoors and outdoors ran faster clocks, and some look for a narrative to explain why Kishane's performance is still "better" because he won. But that clock reading doesn't match up with the claims.
Fundamentally the only thing we can trust in track and field is winning. But if that were the belief of everyone, we would celebrate Noah Lyles as the Olympic gold medalist without looking to undermine the victory and say he did not have the "fastest" time of the year. Seems like we as track fans struggle to remain consistent about what matters most to us in the athletes we love and support.
@@SCATrackandField people???? So you are PEOPLE now? You’re the one who obviously has an issue with his performance in that race regardless of the fact that it was his first indoor race of the season and of his career overall and he won both his heat and the final. At this point you can actually do a damage control and just retract your uncalled for snide comments.
I get you're an African American and need to push your chest up against Jamaicans but your bais is showing. You have the words Track and Field in your title. That means you should be far more educated on the speed of tracks affecting races. Jamaica hot climate does plays a role in the speed of the tracks. There was another YT who actually wonder this indoor track was like racing through molasses due to all of the racers slower times. Track speed in and of itself does matter.
I am disappointed you feel the need to bring race or ethnicity into your comment. It’s ok to disagree with something I said, or even did not clarify. It would be easier to receive without making the point connected to other things. I wish you the best.
He's too powerful for indoor 2nd level sprinting 😮
Bro college athletes been preparing for indoors damn🤦🏽♂️
Kishane ran 0.01 slower than his pb in the final in paris..
The fastest and the 2nd fastest times last year.
Interesting
Thompson wasn't given proper competitive duels, wait for noah and the rest to find out... They are gonna be a shocker
I love your channel, sir 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾❤️❤️. Looking forward to your honest analysis in 2025
They just didn't travel well. But he still did what had to be done.
Everyone thinking too deep about this.
Overall i think he needs to run a maybe one or two more indoor meets and call it a day. Indoors especially when you have such a build as his is not the best on the body. Im sure his coach knows this. Kishane might feel like he still has a chip over his shoulder after the Olympics but again i think he should think of longevity for Worlds
Man relaxxxx! It's his first indoor race of the season.
Coach Rob, you are so biased towards the US Athletes!! You couldn't just credit Kishane Thompson for winning, you are talking about his time in a very cold weather which he is not accustomed to plus his travelling and possibly jetlag body not running the same time as he ran in the conditions he is well familiar with!!!
You criticise Kishane Thompson for only running 6.56 but Noah Lyles runs 6.62 and the headlines says: "Noah Lyles opens his season with blistering time in the 60m indoor"!! Kmt....hypocrisy is the strongest trait you possess!!!
Even if we disregard the 6.48 Kishane ran in Jamaica, he still has the fastest 60m time of the year so far, he ran faster than Noah Lyles and Noah didn't have any elite competitors in his race!! At least Kishane defeated the defending champion!!! Congratulations to Kishane Thompson for his great season openers, well done!!!
BTW, your comparison about 60m indoor champions usually run faster in outdoor 100m races is absolute crap!!!
The GOAT Sprinter and world record holder for 100m and 200m, Usain Bolt never won a 60m Indoors title. Neither did one of the greatest female Sprinters of all times, Elaine Thompson Herah. Check your history, Jamaican Athletes don't really like competing in the cold weather and hence, they don't place much emphasis on same!! Especially if they live and train in Jamaica!! Astana is way too cold for our Athletes so you won't get the best out for us. Nonetheless, Jamaica won both male and female 60m indoor finals in Astana!!!! Speak facts and stop being so biased and critical of the Jamaican Athletes Sir!!!
I respect your opinion. I do endeavor to be critical of all the athletes while celebrating their successes. Hopefully my next video addresses some of your concerns.
I will point out that both Shelly Ann Fraser-Pryce and Veronica Campbell-Brown are Indoor World Champions, so they did not seem to have much issue competing and beating everyone in "colder" climates.
💯 agree with you here.
Is he even that good of a coach? Seems like some dude with a big mouth and a camera to me cosplaying as a coach. Has he ever ran in his life or ever coached an athlete that did anything better than enter an elementary school race? Until he comes up with proof, then he is just an interloper who has a camera and an opinion and clearly knows nothing about how track and field works.
They must've meant +2.1 wind
@@M3me-Core and what did they mean for the infamous Flo Jo’s zero wind reading in what was an obvious hurricane 💨 🌬️ 💨 ????
Jet lag is a real thing, plus it's not a championship so he isn't backing off training load to compete.
They need to stop counting outdoor times as indoor times.
Kishane will need to run 100/200 the 60 is going in the opposite direction for Thompson
This race means nothing. Knowing his coach he is loaded in this run
What happen to da coach ya. Early runnings
he got injured after the race...you all did not see that huh?
There wasn't a negative wind in kishane Thompson s race in Jamaica, according to the banners and a plastic bag tied on the fence .They lied about the -2.1 headwind.
You're just everywhere with this 🗑️🗑️🗑️ you need some good Jamaican coconut water to wash off that dirty little heart of yours. You're obviously reeked with bad mind, jealousy and envy. You need some serious prayers. I feed bad for you when Kishane gets the experience he needs and truly gets into his running! You're going to need an EpiPen. May God help you! 💯 #prayersupforthisdude
The Jamaican race was wind aided
-2.1 m/s is wind aided?😂
@ I don’t think you understood what I meant, but that’s okay.
If you were there in person, you’d know the race had a strong tailwind. For your information, +2.1 m/s is considered wind-aided. This would adjust his 6.48s to about 6.52s, which sounds more reasonable given that he ran 6.56s today.
@@naamanbenyamin8823it was said to be a -2.1 head. It was stated no where it was +2.1. Quit making up shi
@@not_Edix look at the flags during the race
@@meme-g7w3d yeah the wind is pushing him backwards. It wasn’t said they was no wind.
So your just making up shi
That 60 was practice. Hopefully he won’t run anymore indoor. Get ready for outdoor.
He still not going to beat Noah...I have seen where people were going mad over the 6.48....but watch my words....he is not going to beat Noah
I am jamaican coach kishane run a
Where is the rest of your comment? Lol
I still got faith in you Kishane. Don’t know you! You’ll catch on to the 60m.
That's what they.told us?? arrogance
next time you guys should pay attention to banners in track meets and ask yourself if the wind readings say what they’re actually projected. Then you guys won’t be so underwhelmed with results 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
Why would we be underwhelmed? He still ran fast and won so we're very proud of him. This is only the beginning my Guy! So go sit down somewhere with that 🗑️🗑️🗑️ talk 😊💯
@@wallyd6380 don’t think you read my comment fully miss
Kishane run a teriable race thats my opinion
Coach Rob Kishane enter into unfamiliar Territory which is totally a first time him, I’m not going bring up the traveling halfway around the world..
I know because of his speed winning doesn’t mean win for he’s being judged on the way he wins, which is fine for me as a far..
People Eliminate all the possible obstacle’s that might Slightly diminish his Performance that they were anticipated..
Lots of people in Jamaica is totally against him going indoors and risking injuries..
You can forget about seeing him indoors again plus frano and all his former athletes never stay indoors for long thats something he doesn’t believe in..
I stop watched since you say he (Krishane) came second at the olympics.
seriously Christian Coleman can tell you that y you doing bro that bad
Christian Coleman didn’t even make it to the Olympics 100m
Winning 60 m is good but the World Championship , Olympics and winning the 100m meets weighs more !!
@@colleendaly654Coleman has a silver medal from the world champs 2017 and gold from 2019
@@TheoOJamaloO1 tell them again
@@TheoOJamaloO1we are talking about now😂 coleman is everyone's beating stick
@@brentontaylor4878 Coleman won most of his races in 2024.
Means nothing
shut up. When USA clock shows a time it is legal. When it's the clock in Jamaica, it's what you're told.
Jamaica could fall in NY and leave space so why is " Goliath" so worked up about "David"?😂
You speak crop it you are an athlete or were an athlete you kno that different climate affect your performance especially if you are not use to cold or heat……. Stop spreading this false information on your plot-form that is misleading ppl
I understand the climate can have an impact, but I think my comments were just stating the facts about his performance. People have incredibly high expectations for Kishane. I have no doubt he has the talent to win big on the brightest of stages. But in a track and field world where people care about the clock, he did not run as fast as many assumed him to be capable of in that particular race.
I have always been a proponent of a track and field world where we care more about winning and competing than simply "fast times". Because times can be somewhat misleading. It appears you agree with me since you are concerned about all the variables that impacted him to run a slower time. If the emphasis from fans of the sport was on winning, it would be a lot easier to focus on that as the main story. I wish that it was, but fans do not seem to agree. Some of the same people who defend Kishane's "slower" time in Astana, are the ones who discredit Noah Lyles for winning Olympic gold, because Kishane had a faster "time" that season. I personally don't think it can work both ways...
Kishane thompson need to stop aping Noah Lyle
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I said the same thing, it doesn't fit his image,plus his roar is not loud like noah😂 get your own style
@@lincolnclarke3989 Fanna did speak to him about it & just like the Olympic 100m final he didn't execute a sound race.
Who in their right mind would wany to copy Noah? Jumping all about and painting nails and all that...? " His roar is not as loud as noah's ", Kishane copy that roar from Broly an anime character, not Lyles. Get yo facts straight and stip dihh riding noah😂😂
Kishane's proof is in the pudding, if you can find it. His camp is always talking about his heroics in practice