I've noticed a few comments being needlessly vocal and in some cases, outright condescending about the use of a single AI generated image made for this video, so allow me a moment to clarify something; Whenever I have the opportunity to use real artists to add substance and context to my work, I have. I dedicated an entire series focusing on the Chief that was also a celebration of artists from across the community. That being said, I will, when useful, occasionally use AI as a tool to add positive value to the work I do. I won't ever use it to excess, but if I feel in the moments I'm editing, as a deadline is rapidly approaching, and I havent the time to wait on an artist to perform their craft, if I feel the conservative use of AI generated imagery may add value, needed context, or otherwise enhances the viewers experience, I am going to use it. AI is a new emerging tool that is here to stay. The only way were going to figure out how best to use it, is to actually use it. My use is extremely limited to the very VERY occasional image that I feel adds value to my work, particularly for the more visual learners amongst my audience (my content style is attractive to autistic people, who are inherently more visual). When time constraints are too tight to allow room for an artist, AI is a very useful tool to utilise when absolutely necessary. I believe the above explanation justifies my use against the argument of "not liking artists", and on the flip side, the argument of it just being lazy to use AI Generated Art; when editing that portion of the video, I realised an image denoting what these San'Shyuum may actually look like in their ancient form would be a good idea at this concluding moment of the video. I spent 45 minutes searching online for images that may already exist in the lore that I could use or adapt, and attempted 3 or 4 different permutations of that course of action, before then spending 20 minutes looking for images to composite myself into something passable as an Ancient San'Shyuum (I am no artist), and when that didn't work out, I went to ChatGPT and spent 20 minutes refining the image generation with the correct prompts to get the tone I was looking for that approximately matched my vision for the San'Shyuum, and then a further 15 minutes manually tweaking and adjusting the AI image in an image editor to get it to a point I was happy with it to serve the purpose. Over an hour and a half of work for an image that is on screen for 12 seconds. I don't particularly see that as "Lazy". I plan on making a full video diving into AI and its application in content creation exploring the pros and cons in due course, but in the meantime, this is my current stance on this subject. I understand the overwhelming majority of people watched and enjoyed the video, so to all of you I am happy you enjoyed! For the few that take offense, please in the future consider the above mentioned points and the amount of time and effort and unexpected circumstances that can and do go into content creation, that is suitable and enjoyable to an audience with immensely varying needs and requirements. Thank you for your consideration,
I have my issues with AI, but I am not going to stop consuming your content because you use an AI generated image here and there. It's a balance. I see no harm in using it in the way you described above, but I do feel that overuse of AI has the potential to cheapen human creativity. But, truth be told, I watch/listen to your content for the narration and detailed explanations you offer, the visuals are secondary.
@@Hunter-rr5ue halo 7 is making me nervous, its looking like we may get remakes first, i dont know how much longer we can wait for halo 7 steve downes is gonna retire
This is what they get for trying to create some big new threat after the end of the human covenant war. If they wanted to make more halo games they should have made more spin offs set during the war.
I've read all the books, comic books, encyclopedia, and the Halo Bible (space Opera) and honestly nothing would be more fitting then Modern humanity teaming up with Sangheilis wearing mjolnir armor having to fight against Humanity's ancient Ally and now modern nemesis the San'Shyuum all coked out on Forerunner tech that they have been advancing for a millennium while the Galaxy was subjugated by the created. On top of that some how have the Flood make their move to take over the milky-way
It bothers me so much about the direction the Halo franchise is going in. I just don't know anymore, does anyone else feel like this? Its demoralising hearing about all the cut stuff they pulled from Infinite. Feel like the studio is more focused on multiplayer than the story.
@@wolverines5279people were also crying about The Created 343/Halo Studios just tend to try to over correct their mistakes which costs them happen with Halo 4 when tbh was a good starting point for 343 but nope they “kill off” The Didact in a comic
I'm not sure how I feel about the San'Shyuum returning. As players, our encounters with them in-game were already rare and nine of the ten times we saw them were in cut scenes. But if they were to come back, seeing them in their ancient form with far greater musculature and martial prowess on an individual level alongside a raging anger against those who they perceive as traitors would make an excellent revenge story arc. Maybe we'll see a return of the Arbiter as a playable character fighting in defense of his home and kin against what would now be a vengeful San'Shyuum subjugation campaign alongside the Chief and Blue Team. Osiris might even go rogue and join on the side of Chief and the Arbiter. And what if at some point we learn that the newly returned San'Shyuum are in league with ONI? Wouldn't that be a plot twist! Two factions from opposite sides working together to take down the thorns in their respective sides.
@@justindurfee9375 yeah, we fought against old men prophets, who were in gravitational wheel chairs. Fighting against young warrior like versions, who are in their physical prime, would be quite the experience.
"the prophets are coming back and we're not ready for them" Chief and Arby: "WOOOOO! THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR!" Atriox: "Can I join?" JeromeL "same, I need to fight some Covenant and not the Banished"
I like the idea of them returning, it would be cool to have them be more vehicle based with prelates being the on foot troops like higher ranked elites that can climb better. The vehicle based game play would be a big mix up and would give them a unique flair, and it would be fun to think this weaker species needs vehicles to be in par with other factions, warthog rush if you will lol
Maybe humanity will end up allying with them instead, similar to their two species' ancient past? I like to theorize humanity uniting the galaxy is the true test of us obtaining The Mantle. The more allies and powerful they are we have against the Flood's/Precursors' inevitable return, and their *ultimate/final test,* the better. Not to mention what threat the Endless will pose. Same for the remaining forces of the Banished.
I'm not sure that's really necessary. A big thing that I like about Halo over Mass Effect is that there's so many different factions in Halo. It's not 1 species = 1 government. With the Covenant gone, the future is literally up for grabs by one of dozens of factions.
@@ainlLeek Uh yeah you have the superstate operating at galactic level, species level government, system government, world government is how each government in halo and mass effect work with the exception of the pirate/mercenaries of the contracts that constitute the jackal population and the huragok whom technically aren't citizens of anywhere.
@@xyreniaofcthrayn1195 "galactic level, species level government" How does that work in Halo? Maybe in the ancient timeline, but not in the games. Covenant never had humanity, so they were never galactic level government (while it was huge, its borders were not that wide), and still nothing comes close at the time of Halo Infinite. Last I checked, humans barely had control of their worlds after being nearly wiped out, and still had insurrections happening. Human insurrectionists were trying to make deals with the Banished... Banished were founded by brutes, but who knows how many brute chieftains are out there that aren't Banished, so I doubt they speak for all brutes, plus about half the Banished are other species, like... Elites got the Swords of Sanghelios, but lots of states on Sanghelios and its moons are Banished (and the two DON'T get along), so system level government doesn't exist there. Throw in some probable independent Covenant factions, and elites don't even come close to species level government. Grunts (and Jackals to a lesser extent) are mostly underlings of someone else, but there's not much info on what 'life back home' is like for them. Lekgolo and drones, who knows, but I bet they don't have species wide governments either since no one else does.
I suspect the stoics wouldn’t like modern humanity too much. What with the whole blowing up Halos and reverse engineering/using Forerunner tech and all.
@@JohnnyTightlips2007343 lore is literally leagues better than Bungie’s lmao, Bungie left everything vague and undefined for the sake of “mystery” whereas 343 give actual answers to important questions.
Considering this is 343 making halo there probably going to do none of this and will make sure there's a suit of armor in the shop for 25$ that you can buy that will have some iinformation about them in a one liner
The san'shyuum have very few numbers. As far as we are aware the san'shyuum of janjur qom experienced a very non nuclear but still in that ballpark of destruction after the keyship designation: Anodyne spirit took off with half a continent so methinks the inhabitants of janjur qom if they still exist have evolved to be non viable with the flotilla san'shyuum. It would be hilarious if janjur qom survived via a forerunner device like a slipspace bubble shunt and had a natural societal collapse that ended in a shift back to vastly primitive stone age society and came out to become totally honest farmers living their best life only for the device to lose power or time out and found themselves a whole halo ring in orbit orbiting a gas giant twice its size and a snazzy dual binary system next to a black hole for edge.
One already returned, i forgot which book, but The Banished found the key ship in which the covenant were still guarding This covenant was led by Prelate.
I don't know about everybody else, but I've been using ChatGPT to ask tons of hypothetical questions about characters from different universes. I asked ChatGPT who would win between an MUI Goku after training with Whis for 15 years inside a super massive black hole or a Sirius B empowered Superman? I've asked CHATGPT what Halsey would think of Warframes, and if that's what she meant by "our destiny as a species". I'v asked about the differences of outcome if Spartans were given the SSS instead of Project Aster for their augmentations, I've even asked ChatGPT to quantify the level of enhancements for each outcome and determine its pros and cons. It's pretty interesting what that thing can do.
For all I know, the lore could be rewritten with a "new approach, forward thinking" developmental studio so the Xalanyn are in fact the female Prophets/San Shyuum. She looked like a female Javik. I haven't been able to kill her. First thing on my mind was a negotiation.
Multiple plot lines can exist at the same time. Halo CE set up the Flood, then 2 and 3 were simultaneously about the Flood AND the Great Schism, and how they both came to a head at the Ark and the new Halo
@ True, the thing tho is that those are more of plot points related to the greater narrative around the human-covenant war and the settings we go to. To keep things less complicated, it’s best that games following infinite focus on the Endless and Banished only.
@@dragonborn7562 Yep! They made a part 1, people erroneously labeled it as a part 3, and then they judged it poorly as a part 3, ignoring what it sets up as a part 1.
This is a cool and interesting theory, but if they jump primary antagonists again, I’m going to be pissed. It feels like we haven’t had a cohesive story in ages.
Time for a full reboot - starting with CE, then a spin off game playing as marines, then Halo 2 followed by another spin off playing as ODST, then Halo 3 BUT this time, have it setup that either flood is not completely gone and or the Covenant. Do another spin off then, maybe the horror game we always wanted before doing Halo 4. Maybe even do away with numbers, and stretch out Halo 1-3 with way more side games, prequels of Harvest, some insurrection stuff, bring along the banished side by side, up the stakes. But most importantly, go back to the forerunners being ancient humans instead of a separate race (bloody Franky!). I love Halo, have read all the books, have a massive Chief tattoo on my arm, but even I think the lore has gotten way too convoluted, too many unfinished threads and enemies sects. Bring it all back and simplify. Halo was strongest when it was more grounded military sci-fi. Halo 4 and beyond added way too much high-sci-fi.
As much as I like the Halo story, its going to be hard to keep it going. Star Wars has a huge timeline they can create content from. Maybe we need a Halo Origins video game series.
It is very cool that the galaxy is breaking into multiple possibly powerful factions. Even grunts could be surprisingly powerful after Cortana boosted them.
The question is, why is humanity always targeted by everyone (except swords of snghelios i guess ?). If it were to be, UNSC would become the Imperium as in 40K, but not all other racees, or at least factions, should be a foe. Nice video as usual !
But you didn't kill him, he was still alive after that mission, you see him alive when the gravemind had chief and arbys roast beef, tbh idk how the hell he survived what was like 4 or 5 punches from a fucking spartan
@levicarpenter5509 The Gravemind probably absorbed his body soon after he died, and likely repaired it enough that Regret could be "resurrected". Gravemind hadn't absorbed his mind at that point, and we can tell he's cognizant, it seems like Gravemind has a habit of keeping around handy people that are worth speaking to instead of just absorbing the memories of them like usual.
@rootsnootthnute8598 probably but my question is how the hell would regrets head not be caved in after being punched what like 5 times by the master fucking chief
@levicarpenter5509 Artistic license probably, in all sincerity Chief's rampage against the covenant are likely a lot gorier than the games depict, there's a reason they call him Demon
it makes sense ,i can see them potentially filling the galactic niche the forunners once held. i believe the existence of stronger enemy,was crucial for ancient humanities advancements and as such will be crucial for modern humanity,something to light a fire under them.I kinda see the sangheili taking the role the ancient san'shyuum, being humanitys alies going forward...
I hope it goes down a sort of Mass Effect route but with a more serious tone. Like Humanity is making a galactic council to counter the Covenant and Banished and to actually combat and defeat the Flood to bring peace to the milky way.
It would be pretty cool! They Halo Studios could run with this, until they figure out what they should do with the endless. I also thought it might been neat if we jumped out of system, to find the other forerunners. Idk, it is impressive how much 343i dropped the ball.
@@Punchshine yeah I am, I am hoping that this will be good for halo but I am not getting my hopes up but atleast the future for infinite is looking good with development returning
an awesome concept most species would still be present in the prophets revenge force grunts are always slaves. jackals are always happy to fight if their paid, drones followed the prophets once they'll do it again and hunters will probably be the same. A three way war with the unsc and banished may get confusing but itll certain give halo studies plenty of options for story's
Stoic prophets would be interesting, and keep in mind while 8 years have past on earth, that’s relative time to us, depending on the location of the shield world, they could be in the galaxy where revolutions around the star and center of the galaxy are faster or slower than our own revolutions of the galaxy or star. So it’s a possible branch that could bare quite interesting fruit.
Maybe they should hire you to write and plan out the new games its clear they need help. I don't think they are creating anything good anymore and again likely need outside help.
I just want Sergeant Johnson to return in Promethean/Robot form due to his consciousness merging with the domain during the Halo ring’s firing on the Ark.
The Weapon sacrificing herself to save Cortana after the find a shard of her on Zeta Halo is the only way in which i think they have even a chance at recovering the franchise from a story side.
Let us not forget the shanshyuum we see in halo fled there world coz it was in the midst of a civil was and truths faction lost fled with the key ship and the forerunner dreadnaught so i highly doubt the shanshyuum will be coming back and especially angry with humanity they had no idea they existed
I wonder what would happen if somehow archeo-humans were to somehow reappear ( liberated by a rogue oni cell from a forerunner stasis field ?) and decided to avenge the atrocities humanity suffered because of the Forerunner, by waging a full scale war of extermination on every sentient species in the galaxy, with modern humanity slintering into 2 indeologies : those who follow the archeohuman, and those who oppose and ally with the former covenants. Just my imagination wandering into a scenario that most certainly lacks any form of originality, but is a good occasion to explore the tortured psychee of mankind and our unparalled thirst for destruction ( are we really morally better than alien fanatics ?)
In the next halo game I better see humanity have made progress and adopted reverse engineered covenant tech. There’s no way that after decades of war with them and now having the arbiter and his followers as frienemies that humanity wouldn’t find a way to give all their soldiers better armor like on a lesser level of the elites or made massive progress in weaponry. By now humanity SHOULD have some sort of plasma weaponry small arms and for their ships. I better see thousands of Spartans that are at least in the same level as the IVs. I get that part of the halo feel is that humanity is supposed to be hopelessly outmatched but let’s be real here. 8 years of relative peace should be enough time for humanity to have even better tech than what was in the infinity. A large portion of there ships should have shield tech and some sort of plasma cannon even if it isn’t in the level that a covenant one would be . In real life, war leads to massive exponential capabilities in technology. In WWII we went from prop planes to jets, build nukes, developed assault rifles. Not even a decade later missiles of all kinds. I refuse to believe that a humanity massively advanced to us now in the present after decades of war with an advanced species hasn’t been able to adobt a lot of that tech and developed our own.
Well, that probably won’t be a problem. someone call rtas, I heard he’s been hunting them and the brutes down. Rtas could use this information very well. Rtas is what 7’10 or 7’11, that 7 something and half whatever is nothing. So if they do return, I hope they are ready.
Isn’t high charity literally built from half of their home world? Seems a little hard to believe that the rest of the planet could still be intact after all of that especially after all this time too
Why not have two factions of prophets rolled into one?? The survivors on their Homeworld will make up most of the cannon fodder, while also having certain types of specialized units of prophets from the whole world with Forerunner type Tech, and have certain main characters mostly be the bread and butter from The Shield world and a couple augmented from the Homeworld. This way you could have two different types of art styles for the prophets, one that looks old but modern and the other that is just straight-up future sci-fi Tech. This way there's the illusion of having two different factions, and have the main one be the Homeworld Prophets that way there's a distinct different design of their weapons and vehicles compared to the Covenant and just have certain weapons from the prophets of The Shield world just be a Sci-Fi weapon. They should just make an original species that isn't tied to the forerunners or Covenant, you could even create a new type of religious hegemony that hails from the Andromeda galaxy that seen the firing of the halo rings.🤔🤔🤔🤔
Not so much revised as just were lucky enough to be on the ark when everything else either fell out got exterminated by the halos, no? The ark personnel weren't really rebelling against a plan for total extinction by saving themselves, there were just terribly few of them.
Considering halo 7 will be a ce remake. We probably wont get any new lore or continuation of the up to date story for like at least 5 years. Unless infinites story judt gets written off in a random book or comic 😢
I just want them to actually finish a storyline for once, instead of killing off the bad guy off screen and rushing from plot to plot. Halo needs focus
A prelate could 100% go to me to toe with a spartan, obviously not in a boxing match but that’s not a prelates strength Prelates are glass cannons and highly mobile if a prelate could blitz a spartan or ambush one dropping their shields and then slicing em with the hardlight gauntlet and then escape and do this a couple times they could beat a spartan Spartans get beaten by regular brutes and elites and a prelate can solo whole squads of each so a prelate could take out a spartan Now if the spartan grabs him then yea it’s over for the prelate but I doubt one would challenge a spartan straight up And at range they’re probably even
Don't Forerunner ships have artificial gravity? Couldn't the Shan'Shyuum just crank up the gravity to match their home worlds? Or at least crank it up slightly every generation
Theory is great but I don’t want the prophets to all of a sudden be big dudes cuz they evolved. Maybe still have prophets and a worrier class of prophets that may look larger and altered.
Noo we just introduced to the banished and endless why do we need more antagonists makes no sense if anything maybe a prequel game about them but that’s just me
The prophets did, remember, prophets are what humanity called the San shyuum they encountered, they did not find the prophet homeworld, so the stoic are still alive
@@JohnnyTightlips2007 I forget which video it is but one of Halo lore Masters mentioned that "most of the prophets population was on high charity?" and that their planet is fuked
@@EastlakeRasta7 Did my reply get axed again? Yes there were a lot of casualties down to the thousands. At best maybe slightly in the ten thousands. Still I could think of a way for them to be a threat again by making Prelates and then breeding Slugmen for them to come back. (Grunts are always needed for any faction though)
@@JohnnyTightlips2007 it'd be better if the prophet species were to return it would just be them, that way it's not just another reskin of the Covenant. Especially when you consider that gives them the freedom to give them unique weapons and vehicles compared to the Covenant.
Imagine the possibilities of varients. We could be fighting giant ones, ninja like ones, high tec ones and even scary crazy mutant gene failures! Sick!!
Prelates can't go toe to toe with Spartans? Dhas Bhasvod has ended the lives of more than one. While I would love to see the San'Shyuum make a return especially with aforementioned Prelates, I get this dark feeling that 343/Halo will find a way to ruin them as well.
What type of Spartan? I don't know anything about any Prelate beyond Tem Bhetek. And there's a huge difference in how tough it would be to kill a Spartan 2 or 3 in MJOLNIR, a 4 in MJOLNIR, or a 3 in SPI.
The Sangheili fought the San`Shayum for quite some time before allying with them. The Sangheili and the San`Shayuum matched each other on rather equal ground. Which means that the San`Shayuum in their original form might be quite the fighters.
What's in it for the prophets? Sure revenge, but their downfall was brought on by a power grab and an attempted genocide. Would the prophets still be brainwashed? Would there be no monitors on the shield world to explain what they got wrong?
I just want them to stop beating the dead horse. Halo ended with Reach. Master cheeks isn't real, 343i isn't Halo. Halo Studios are 343i renaming themselves. And while I know it would hurt good channels like this one, I want my childhood franchise left the F alone after everything done to it after 2010. Except Halo Wars, that was the only good one after that.
Humanities super soldier program was the Spartans, The prophets had their own, just think of what the Elite and brutes super soldier program would create. The Spartans would stand no chance.
Yeah but elites, don’t like doctors. Like at all. It is considered dishonorable and shameful to even be worked on. It’s doubtful that they would have a super soldier program. The brutes on the other hand, maybe?
Honestly they are gonna fumble the next few halo games too…they already have with the way Infinite went…Cortana beaten off screen, Atriox apparently killed off screen, multiple spartan teams killed in comics or off screen…whatever story they come up with will just be that a cheap made up story
The only thing you’re wrong is Atriox is actually alive and there was supposed to be more after Halo Infinite but we all know what happened after that.
I've noticed a few comments being needlessly vocal and in some cases, outright condescending about the use of a single AI generated image made for this video, so allow me a moment to clarify something;
Whenever I have the opportunity to use real artists to add substance and context to my work, I have. I dedicated an entire series focusing on the Chief that was also a celebration of artists from across the community.
That being said, I will, when useful, occasionally use AI as a tool to add positive value to the work I do. I won't ever use it to excess, but if I feel in the moments I'm editing, as a deadline is rapidly approaching, and I havent the time to wait on an artist to perform their craft, if I feel the conservative use of AI generated imagery may add value, needed context, or otherwise enhances the viewers experience, I am going to use it.
AI is a new emerging tool that is here to stay. The only way were going to figure out how best to use it, is to actually use it. My use is extremely limited to the very VERY occasional image that I feel adds value to my work, particularly for the more visual learners amongst my audience (my content style is attractive to autistic people, who are inherently more visual). When time constraints are too tight to allow room for an artist, AI is a very useful tool to utilise when absolutely necessary.
I believe the above explanation justifies my use against the argument of "not liking artists", and on the flip side, the argument of it just being lazy to use AI Generated Art; when editing that portion of the video, I realised an image denoting what these San'Shyuum may actually look like in their ancient form would be a good idea at this concluding moment of the video. I spent 45 minutes searching online for images that may already exist in the lore that I could use or adapt, and attempted 3 or 4 different permutations of that course of action, before then spending 20 minutes looking for images to composite myself into something passable as an Ancient San'Shyuum (I am no artist), and when that didn't work out, I went to ChatGPT and spent 20 minutes refining the image generation with the correct prompts to get the tone I was looking for that approximately matched my vision for the San'Shyuum, and then a further 15 minutes manually tweaking and adjusting the AI image in an image editor to get it to a point I was happy with it to serve the purpose. Over an hour and a half of work for an image that is on screen for 12 seconds. I don't particularly see that as "Lazy".
I plan on making a full video diving into AI and its application in content creation exploring the pros and cons in due course, but in the meantime, this is my current stance on this subject. I understand the overwhelming majority of people watched and enjoyed the video, so to all of you I am happy you enjoyed! For the few that take offense, please in the future consider the above mentioned points and the amount of time and effort and unexpected circumstances that can and do go into content creation, that is suitable and enjoyable to an audience with immensely varying needs and requirements.
Thank you for your consideration,
@@Installation00 you’re a grown man. If you want to make everything AI then do that. Those who are meant to be here will stay
I have my issues with AI, but I am not going to stop consuming your content because you use an AI generated image here and there. It's a balance. I see no harm in using it in the way you described above, but I do feel that overuse of AI has the potential to cheapen human creativity. But, truth be told, I watch/listen to your content for the narration and detailed explanations you offer, the visuals are secondary.
We fight handsome Squidwards in Halo 7?
Imagine fighting of a group of supersoldier Prophets that is constantly mogging
R34 is about to get wild. Forget about thicc Cortana. This dudes are the next big thing.
@@IsuiGtz Why would your mind go straight to that?
@@Hunter-rr5ue halo 7 is making me nervous, its looking like we may get remakes first, i dont know how much longer we can wait for halo 7 steve downes is gonna retire
The GTR Slyline is a crazy car @@IsuiGtz
I'm curious if 343/Halo studios will ever be able to have consistent main enemy factions in the mainline games?
@@tech34756 Prometheans? No. Created? Nope. The Banished? Negatory. The Endless? No siree. Prophets 2.0? THIS’LL DO IT
@@tech34756 343/Halo Studios are the consistent main enemy in the new mainline games
The real boss enemy of 343 is finishing a damn story.
343 was the consistent antagonist since Halo 4.
This is what they get for trying to create some big new threat after the end of the human covenant war. If they wanted to make more halo games they should have made more spin offs set during the war.
I've read all the books, comic books, encyclopedia, and the Halo Bible (space Opera) and honestly nothing would be more fitting then Modern humanity teaming up with Sangheilis wearing mjolnir armor having to fight against Humanity's ancient Ally and now modern nemesis the San'Shyuum all coked out on Forerunner tech that they have been advancing for a millennium while the Galaxy was subjugated by the created. On top of that some how have the Flood make their move to take over the milky-way
It bothers me so much about the direction the Halo franchise is going in. I just don't know anymore, does anyone else feel like this? Its demoralising hearing about all the cut stuff they pulled from Infinite. Feel like the studio is more focused on multiplayer than the story.
Neutering the flood was the last straw for me. Something being more powerful and can't be infected? I call BS.
It’s mainly because people pissed and moaned about not having a good multiplayer
@@wolverines5279people were also crying about The Created 343/Halo Studios just tend to try to over correct their mistakes which costs them happen with Halo 4 when tbh was a good starting point for 343 but nope they “kill off” The Didact in a comic
@ honestly they could have left the didect dead after 4 or the comics could be retconned
I'm not sure how I feel about the San'Shyuum returning. As players, our encounters with them in-game were already rare and nine of the ten times we saw them were in cut scenes. But if they were to come back, seeing them in their ancient form with far greater musculature and martial prowess on an individual level alongside a raging anger against those who they perceive as traitors would make an excellent revenge story arc. Maybe we'll see a return of the Arbiter as a playable character fighting in defense of his home and kin against what would now be a vengeful San'Shyuum subjugation campaign alongside the Chief and Blue Team. Osiris might even go rogue and join on the side of Chief and the Arbiter. And what if at some point we learn that the newly returned San'Shyuum are in league with ONI? Wouldn't that be a plot twist! Two factions from opposite sides working together to take down the thorns in their respective sides.
@@justindurfee9375 yeah, we fought against old men prophets, who were in gravitational wheel chairs. Fighting against young warrior like versions, who are in their physical prime, would be quite the experience.
As much as I would love to have Prelates be the next "Covenant" faction. I have to assume 343 rebranded will find a way to ruin them.
"the prophets are coming back and we're not ready for them"
Chief and Arby: "WOOOOO! THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR!"
Atriox: "Can I join?"
JeromeL "same, I need to fight some Covenant and not the Banished"
I got a suggestion, since plasma can be manipulated by magnetic fields why couldn't the humans use repulsors to deflect Covie plasma fire?
I like the idea of them returning, it would be cool to have them be more vehicle based with prelates being the on foot troops like higher ranked elites that can climb better. The vehicle based game play would be a big mix up and would give them a unique flair, and it would be fun to think this weaker species needs vehicles to be in par with other factions, warthog rush if you will lol
Maybe humanity will end up allying with them instead, similar to their two species' ancient past? I like to theorize humanity uniting the galaxy is the true test of us obtaining The Mantle. The more allies and powerful they are we have against the Flood's/Precursors' inevitable return, and their *ultimate/final test,* the better. Not to mention what threat the Endless will pose. Same for the remaining forces of the Banished.
I want Prelate enemies in a game so bad
Same
There's one thing I wish they would add is more civilizations in the game that were not a part of the covenant or the forerunners
Or more of the former covenant non combatant species gearing up for territory wars.
@@xyreniaofcthrayn1195 Like the Sharquoi!
I'm not sure that's really necessary. A big thing that I like about Halo over Mass Effect is that there's so many different factions in Halo. It's not 1 species = 1 government. With the Covenant gone, the future is literally up for grabs by one of dozens of factions.
@@ainlLeek Uh yeah you have the superstate operating at galactic level, species level government, system government, world government is how each government in halo and mass effect work with the exception of the pirate/mercenaries of the contracts that constitute the jackal population and the huragok whom technically aren't citizens of anywhere.
@@xyreniaofcthrayn1195 "galactic level, species level government" How does that work in Halo? Maybe in the ancient timeline, but not in the games. Covenant never had humanity, so they were never galactic level government (while it was huge, its borders were not that wide), and still nothing comes close at the time of Halo Infinite.
Last I checked, humans barely had control of their worlds after being nearly wiped out, and still had insurrections happening. Human insurrectionists were trying to make deals with the Banished...
Banished were founded by brutes, but who knows how many brute chieftains are out there that aren't Banished, so I doubt they speak for all brutes, plus about half the Banished are other species, like...
Elites got the Swords of Sanghelios, but lots of states on Sanghelios and its moons are Banished (and the two DON'T get along), so system level government doesn't exist there. Throw in some probable independent Covenant factions, and elites don't even come close to species level government.
Grunts (and Jackals to a lesser extent) are mostly underlings of someone else, but there's not much info on what 'life back home' is like for them. Lekgolo and drones, who knows, but I bet they don't have species wide governments either since no one else does.
The stoics come back as humans best friend like the ancient days
Ugh, 343 lore . . .
@@JohnnyTightlips2007 trilogy theory
I suspect the stoics wouldn’t like modern humanity too much. What with the whole blowing up Halos and reverse engineering/using Forerunner tech and all.
@@JohnnyTightlips2007it's a great fictional universe!
@@JohnnyTightlips2007343 lore is literally leagues better than Bungie’s lmao, Bungie left everything vague and undefined for the sake of “mystery” whereas 343 give actual answers to important questions.
Oh my God it's been 17 years...
Felt like yesterday. 😢
Considering this is 343 making halo there probably going to do none of this and will make sure there's a suit of armor in the shop for 25$ that you can buy that will have some iinformation about them in a one liner
I love the Huragok.
The san'shyuum have very few numbers. As far as we are aware the san'shyuum of janjur qom experienced a very non nuclear but still in that ballpark of destruction after the keyship designation: Anodyne spirit took off with half a continent so methinks the inhabitants of janjur qom if they still exist have evolved to be non viable with the flotilla san'shyuum. It would be hilarious if janjur qom survived via a forerunner device like a slipspace bubble shunt and had a natural societal collapse that ended in a shift back to vastly primitive stone age society and came out to become totally honest farmers living their best life only for the device to lose power or time out and found themselves a whole halo ring in orbit orbiting a gas giant twice its size and a snazzy dual binary system next to a black hole for edge.
And just think most of the Halo fans have no idea this even happened
One already returned, i forgot which book, but The Banished found the key ship in which the covenant were still guarding This covenant was led by Prelate.
Nah I want the Grunt Rebellion for Halo 7
I don't know about everybody else, but I've been using ChatGPT to ask tons of hypothetical questions about characters from different universes. I asked ChatGPT who would win between an MUI Goku after training with Whis for 15 years inside a super massive black hole or a Sirius B empowered Superman? I've asked CHATGPT what Halsey would think of Warframes, and if that's what she meant by "our destiny as a species". I'v asked about the differences of outcome if Spartans were given the SSS instead of Project Aster for their augmentations, I've even asked ChatGPT to quantify the level of enhancements for each outcome and determine its pros and cons. It's pretty interesting what that thing can do.
What were the answers?
With every new video I watch, I am more convinced. You deserve more people following your amazing work
Busy as in, the type of busy they were with the ancient humans?
my first thought lmfao
I dunno.....Maybe :D
If so then… we screwed by the endless or possibly the more advanced prophets like they were back in Their ancient days
I absolutely love how you cited info, thanks man! Great video
For all I know, the lore could be rewritten with a "new approach, forward thinking" developmental studio so the Xalanyn are in fact the female Prophets/San Shyuum.
She looked like a female Javik. I haven't been able to kill her. First thing on my mind was a negotiation.
Cool idea, but this is more of something for a Halo 9. Let’s explore the Endless for 7 & 8 at least so that it’s not another dead plot line
Multiple plot lines can exist at the same time. Halo CE set up the Flood, then 2 and 3 were simultaneously about the Flood AND the Great Schism, and how they both came to a head at the Ark and the new Halo
@ True, the thing tho is that those are more of plot points related to the greater narrative around the human-covenant war and the settings we go to. To keep things less complicated, it’s best that games following infinite focus on the Endless and Banished only.
@Espartanica It's all about execution. And we all know how 343 did that...
@@dragonborn7562 Yep! They made a part 1, people erroneously labeled it as a part 3, and then they judged it poorly as a part 3, ignoring what it sets up as a part 1.
This is a cool and interesting theory, but if they jump primary antagonists again, I’m going to be pissed. It feels like we haven’t had a cohesive story in ages.
Time for a full reboot - starting with CE, then a spin off game playing as marines, then Halo 2 followed by another spin off playing as ODST, then Halo 3 BUT this time, have it setup that either flood is not completely gone and or the Covenant. Do another spin off then, maybe the horror game we always wanted before doing Halo 4. Maybe even do away with numbers, and stretch out Halo 1-3 with way more side games, prequels of Harvest, some insurrection stuff, bring along the banished side by side, up the stakes. But most importantly, go back to the forerunners being ancient humans instead of a separate race (bloody Franky!). I love Halo, have read all the books, have a massive Chief tattoo on my arm, but even I think the lore has gotten way too convoluted, too many unfinished threads and enemies sects. Bring it all back and simplify. Halo was strongest when it was more grounded military sci-fi. Halo 4 and beyond added way too much high-sci-fi.
My immediate thought was, which San'Shyuum are we talking about? The Covenant ones or the native ones who are mentioned in one of the books.
I did not like how 343 got rid of the Covenant so fast I will be happy to see them come back and bring some nostalgic Halo 3 vibes.
*Bungie
As much as I like the Halo story, its going to be hard to keep it going. Star Wars has a huge timeline they can create content from. Maybe we need a Halo Origins video game series.
Insurrection?
@@Punchshine Go back even further to before they built the rings
@@WealthTransferTC Oh I see what you mean now
It is very cool that the galaxy is breaking into multiple possibly powerful factions. Even grunts could be surprisingly powerful after Cortana boosted them.
The question is, why is humanity always targeted by everyone (except swords of snghelios i guess ?). If it were to be, UNSC would become the Imperium as in 40K, but not all other racees, or at least factions, should be a foe. Nice video as usual !
naaaah, killing Regret felt great! ;)
You have no Regret, you killed him.
But you didn't kill him, he was still alive after that mission, you see him alive when the gravemind had chief and arbys roast beef, tbh idk how the hell he survived what was like 4 or 5 punches from a fucking spartan
@levicarpenter5509 The Gravemind probably absorbed his body soon after he died, and likely repaired it enough that Regret could be "resurrected". Gravemind hadn't absorbed his mind at that point, and we can tell he's cognizant, it seems like Gravemind has a habit of keeping around handy people that are worth speaking to instead of just absorbing the memories of them like usual.
@rootsnootthnute8598 probably but my question is how the hell would regrets head not be caved in after being punched what like 5 times by the master fucking chief
@levicarpenter5509 Artistic license probably, in all sincerity Chief's rampage against the covenant are likely a lot gorier than the games depict, there's a reason they call him Demon
Sounds pretty damn hype but if we don't get the Endless imma be pissed
I think it would be fine if the Prophets came back in the story. Familiar and has good cases for being allies, enemies, or even both.
it makes sense ,i can see them potentially filling the galactic niche the forunners once held. i believe the existence of stronger enemy,was crucial for ancient humanities advancements and
as such will be crucial for modern humanity,something to light a fire under them.I kinda see the sangheili taking the role the ancient san'shyuum, being humanitys alies going forward...
I hope it goes down a sort of Mass Effect route but with a more serious tone. Like Humanity is making a galactic council to counter the Covenant and Banished and to actually combat and defeat the Flood to bring peace to the milky way.
It would be pretty cool!
They Halo Studios could run with this, until they figure out what they should do with the endless.
I also thought it might been neat if we jumped out of system, to find the other forerunners. Idk, it is impressive how much 343i dropped the ball.
I just hope this shake up and rebranding is a good thing
@@levicarpenter5509 We need to be cautiously optimistic so just remember that.
@@Punchshine yeah I am, I am hoping that this will be good for halo but I am not getting my hopes up but atleast the future for infinite is looking good with development returning
an awesome concept most species would still be present in the prophets revenge force grunts are always slaves. jackals are always happy to fight if their paid, drones followed the prophets once they'll do it again and hunters will probably be the same. A three way war with the unsc and banished may get confusing but itll certain give halo studies plenty of options for story's
Stoic prophets would be interesting, and keep in mind while 8 years have past on earth, that’s relative time to us, depending on the location of the shield world, they could be in the galaxy where revolutions around the star and center of the galaxy are faster or slower than our own revolutions of the galaxy or star. So it’s a possible branch that could bare quite interesting fruit.
At the end of Infinite, Chief warped 3 days ahead. In the books, Blue Team spent a while in a pocket dimension where time was 20x slower than normal.
Maybe they should hire you to write and plan out the new games its clear they need help. I don't think they are creating anything good anymore and again likely need outside help.
Plus they could just do some type of online call where he's in the writing room
I really hope it continues from where infinite left off and the books left
So you're saying we are gonna get hot San'Shyuums now...instead of the old guys? WOOO
Sounds great, but there is one problem. The people in charge of Halo right now....
I just want Sergeant Johnson to return in Promethean/Robot form due to his consciousness merging with the domain during the Halo ring’s firing on the Ark.
His body fell into a fucking column of white hot energy, he is as dead as you could possibly be.
The Weapon sacrificing herself to save Cortana after the find a shard of her on Zeta Halo is the only way in which i think they have even a chance at recovering the franchise from a story side.
Please, please, please just recton everything after HALO 3 and Reach!
Technically Reach is before the original, chronologically.
@JohnnyTightlips2007 I know it's a prequel but it was made last.
For a second there, I thought it's one of those HaloFollower's clickbait videos, but it's just you. Thank the rings.
Let us not forget the shanshyuum we see in halo fled there world coz it was in the midst of a civil was and truths faction lost fled with the key ship and the forerunner dreadnaught so i highly doubt the shanshyuum will be coming back and especially angry with humanity they had no idea they existed
No need for remakes just continue the Halo story and make it good. It’s still so many stories to tell no need for remakes.
your theory is a wild one
Installation 00: Old guys in wheelchairs not be that interesting to fight
Logan Paul: whoo whoo we got some content here
The brutes were in reach
Prophet of Truth
Prophet of Mercy
Prophet of Regret
Prophet of Being a Chad
I wonder what would happen if somehow archeo-humans were to somehow reappear ( liberated by a rogue oni cell from a forerunner stasis field ?) and decided to avenge the atrocities humanity suffered because of the Forerunner, by waging a full scale war of extermination on every sentient species in the galaxy, with modern humanity slintering into 2 indeologies : those who follow the archeohuman, and those who oppose and ally with the former covenants. Just my imagination wandering into a scenario that most certainly lacks any form of originality, but is a good occasion to explore the tortured psychee of mankind and our unparalled thirst for destruction ( are we really morally better than alien fanatics ?)
i just want humanity to know about their ancient history
In the next halo game I better see humanity have made progress and adopted reverse engineered covenant tech. There’s no way that after decades of war with them and now having the arbiter and his followers as frienemies that humanity wouldn’t find a way to give all their soldiers better armor like on a lesser level of the elites or made massive progress in weaponry. By now humanity SHOULD have some sort of plasma weaponry small arms and for their ships. I better see thousands of Spartans that are at least in the same level as the IVs. I get that part of the halo feel is that humanity is supposed to be hopelessly outmatched but let’s be real here. 8 years of relative peace should be enough time for humanity to have even better tech than what was in the infinity. A large portion of there ships should have shield tech and some sort of plasma cannon even if it isn’t in the level that a covenant one would be . In real life, war leads to massive exponential capabilities in technology. In WWII we went from prop planes to jets, build nukes, developed assault rifles. Not even a decade later missiles of all kinds. I refuse to believe that a humanity massively advanced to us now in the present after decades of war with an advanced species hasn’t been able to adobt a lot of that tech and developed our own.
Well, that probably won’t be a problem. someone call rtas, I heard he’s been hunting them and the brutes down. Rtas could use this information very well. Rtas is what 7’10 or 7’11, that 7 something and half whatever is nothing. So if they do return, I hope they are ready.
ANVIL Initiative LORE & THEORY VID PLEASE
I’m fairly certain all the stoics are dead. If I remember right from Contact Harvest the prophet homeworld was destroyed in their civil war.
I thought high charity was the remains of their homeworld... like the outer shell of if being made from the remains of the planet.
My fav race in halo
Isn’t high charity literally built from half of their home world? Seems a little hard to believe that the rest of the planet could still be intact after all of that especially after all this time too
Why not have two factions of prophets rolled into one??
The survivors on their Homeworld will make up most of the cannon fodder, while also having certain types of specialized units of prophets from the whole world with Forerunner type Tech, and have certain main characters mostly be the bread and butter from The Shield world and a couple augmented from the Homeworld.
This way you could have two different types of art styles for the prophets, one that looks old but modern and the other that is just straight-up future sci-fi Tech.
This way there's the illusion of having two different factions, and have the main one be the Homeworld Prophets that way there's a distinct different design of their weapons and vehicles compared to the Covenant and just have certain weapons from the prophets of The Shield world just be a Sci-Fi weapon.
They should just make an original species that isn't tied to the forerunners or Covenant, you could even create a new type of religious hegemony that hails from the Andromeda galaxy that seen the firing of the halo rings.🤔🤔🤔🤔
😌ty 4 uploading
Could there be prophets stored in cylixes at the shield world? Could help with their genetics problems.
Oh no they found character creation
Or …. We are going back to the Human-Sanshium alliance.
My bet is that you will face a clone army
I hope to take the fight to them in the 7th Halo game
Somehow pal-prophets returned...
Nah, you’re making a video about it. Which means that Halo studios don’t have a clue about any of this lore.
How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man!?
Somehow.... the Prophets have returned.....
are we getting the beautiful sanshayum?
if so id also like to see some of those forerunners who refused to die because of the halos.
Not so much revised as just were lucky enough to be on the ark when everything else either fell out got exterminated by the halos, no? The ark personnel weren't really rebelling against a plan for total extinction by saving themselves, there were just terribly few of them.
I just want more covenant era prequels. There is so much potential… wasted
Somehow the prophets returned
Considering halo 7 will be a ce remake. We probably wont get any new lore or continuation of the up to date story for like at least 5 years.
Unless infinites story judt gets written off in a random book or comic 😢
I just want them to actually finish a storyline for once, instead of killing off the bad guy off screen and rushing from plot to plot. Halo needs focus
The new palpaptines? No please
With this new information we can confirm that halo 7 will come out in 2035 and will be called Halo Unlimited
Are you on Bluesky?
A prelate could 100% go to me to toe with a spartan, obviously not in a boxing match but that’s not a prelates strength
Prelates are glass cannons and highly mobile if a prelate could blitz a spartan or ambush one dropping their shields and then slicing em with the hardlight gauntlet and then escape and do this a couple times they could beat a spartan
Spartans get beaten by regular brutes and elites and a prelate can solo whole squads of each so a prelate could take out a spartan
Now if the spartan grabs him then yea it’s over for the prelate but I doubt one would challenge a spartan straight up
And at range they’re probably even
Don't Forerunner ships have artificial gravity? Couldn't the Shan'Shyuum just crank up the gravity to match their home worlds? Or at least crank it up slightly every generation
Theory is great but I don’t want the prophets to all of a sudden be big dudes cuz they evolved. Maybe still have prophets and a worrier class of prophets that may look larger and altered.
Sanshiyum-ussy, anyone?
Noo we just introduced to the banished and endless why do we need more antagonists makes no sense if anything maybe a prequel game about them but that’s just me
Bruh, u said the Prophets all died in like halo 2/3.
Well the three High Prophets certainly perished anyway.
The prophets did, remember, prophets are what humanity called the San shyuum they encountered, they did not find the prophet homeworld, so the stoic are still alive
@@JohnnyTightlips2007 I forget which video it is but one of Halo lore Masters mentioned that "most of the prophets population was on high charity?" and that their planet is fuked
@@EastlakeRasta7 Did my reply get axed again?
Yes there were a lot of casualties down to the thousands. At best maybe slightly in the ten thousands.
Still I could think of a way for them to be a threat again by making Prelates and then breeding Slugmen for them to come back. (Grunts are always needed for any faction though)
@@JohnnyTightlips2007 it'd be better if the prophet species were to return it would just be them, that way it's not just another reskin of the Covenant.
Especially when you consider that gives them the freedom to give them unique weapons and vehicles compared to the Covenant.
Imagine the possibilities of varients. We could be fighting giant ones, ninja like ones, high tec ones and even scary crazy mutant gene failures! Sick!!
Here me out... omni movement in the next halo? 😂
This would be the funniest thing ever to add to the Sprint debate
Prelates can't go toe to toe with Spartans? Dhas Bhasvod has ended the lives of more than one.
While I would love to see the San'Shyuum make a return especially with aforementioned Prelates, I get this dark feeling that 343/Halo will find a way to ruin them as well.
What type of Spartan? I don't know anything about any Prelate beyond Tem Bhetek. And there's a huge difference in how tough it would be to kill a Spartan 2 or 3 in MJOLNIR, a 4 in MJOLNIR, or a 3 in SPI.
@@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem and remember gamma company was probably going to be the toughest of the Spartan 3 companies.
@@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem It would definitely have to be post H3 since Dhas, assassinating Mark happened during the Divine Wind books.
The Sangheili fought the San`Shayum for quite some time before allying with them. The Sangheili and the San`Shayuum matched each other on rather equal ground. Which means that the San`Shayuum in their original form might be quite the fighters.
No the Sangheili kicked their asses. But the SanShayum had a Forerunner dreadnought
We all know Microsoft is too small brained to think of this.
Well all I know is; we really don’t need these idiots “remaking” (ruining) the original trilogy
What's in it for the prophets? Sure revenge, but their downfall was brought on by a power grab and an attempted genocide. Would the prophets still be brainwashed? Would there be no monitors on the shield world to explain what they got wrong?
I just want them to stop beating the dead horse. Halo ended with Reach. Master cheeks isn't real, 343i isn't Halo. Halo Studios are 343i renaming themselves.
And while I know it would hurt good channels like this one, I want my childhood franchise left the F alone after everything done to it after 2010. Except Halo Wars, that was the only good one after that.
Humanities super soldier program was the Spartans, The prophets had their own, just think of what the Elite and brutes super soldier program would create. The Spartans would stand no chance.
Yeah but elites, don’t like doctors. Like at all. It is considered dishonorable and shameful to even be worked on. It’s doubtful that they would have a super soldier program. The brutes on the other hand, maybe?
Honestly they are gonna fumble the next few halo games too…they already have with the way Infinite went…Cortana beaten off screen, Atriox apparently killed off screen, multiple spartan teams killed in comics or off screen…whatever story they come up with will just be that a cheap made up story
The only thing you’re wrong is Atriox is actually alive and there was supposed to be more after Halo Infinite but we all know what happened after that.
3:27 Female elite confirmed? (Double bladed staff)
Female elites look faily similar to male elites. see shadow of intent by joseph staten's cover
Those are prophet super soldiers you dingus
@@levicarpenter5509 the one on the right is an elite ya dingus, look at the hands and leg structure.
@@gavinrobinson8925 yeah the one on the far right but I wasn't talking about that one
@@levicarpenter5509 No, the one in the middle right. Just look dude.
Do you need to use A.I for videos?