"ESPN is NOT the Big Leagues" - Pat McAfee Calls Out ESPN Exec For Sabotaging His Show

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  • Patrick Bet-David, Adam Sosnick, Tom Ellsworth and Vincent Oshana react to Pat McAfee calling out ESPN executive Norby Williamson for sabotaging his show.
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  • @rickylafleur1446
    @rickylafleur1446 4 месяца назад +834

    Pat didn't understand why his fanbase hated his move to Disney. This is why. Disney is a cancer.

    • @p00lboy
      @p00lboy 4 месяца назад +41

      ive not watched or listened to him since he signed

    • @stephensullivan1011
      @stephensullivan1011 4 месяца назад +16

      Yup.
      Still love him. Just not really interested in the show anymore..

    • @tmac1616
      @tmac1616 4 месяца назад +18

      Not quite true. People thought ESPN would censor him and the show wouldn’t be the same. To be fair it doesn’t appear to be the case so far at least

    • @ChazinFl1
      @ChazinFl1 4 месяца назад

      Me either@@p00lboy

    • @LembeckIsStaying
      @LembeckIsStaying 4 месяца назад +5

      "So far..." are the key words.

  • @JonnyZuccs
    @JonnyZuccs 4 месяца назад +675

    Anybody watching Pat long enough knows he was dying to get on ESPN for a long time as an NFL play caller and he was denied becasue of politics so to be able to rise above it and become more successful and then be able to join ESPN on HIS own terms must feel really nice to him.

    • @mr.brooks9802
      @mr.brooks9802 4 месяца назад +28

      When you said Pat I thought you meant Bet David at first lol

    • @Cordicity
      @Cordicity 4 месяца назад +9

      This is 85% correct

    • @benguensche
      @benguensche 4 месяца назад +5

      What do you mean “play caller”?

    • @PattysCards
      @PattysCards 4 месяца назад +9

      I don’t understand why people blame Pat for joining? He got his bag. As anybody else would. I’m happy he’s fighting with ESPN

    • @stephensullivan1011
      @stephensullivan1011 4 месяца назад +3

      He prolly meant call games or play by play analyst. Mixed em up.
      Not the most intelligent commenter. Right spirit though. ​@@benguensche

  • @VGKDean
    @VGKDean 4 месяца назад +183

    Mcafee had the biggest sports podcast prior to ESPN. He left a 4 year, $120 million dollar deal with Fan Duel. What McAfee got was the ESPN money, the ability to use clips and maintain full control over his show.

    • @JohnRichardson-if4ou
      @JohnRichardson-if4ou 4 месяца назад +11

      @vgkdean
      He had to run the show out of that $120mil. Any guests/co hosts that were paid were paid out of that $120mil. ESPN takes care of all the expenses now, plus he gets to call games and have conversations he never would have been able to. I completely understand what signing with Disney means for him/the show but it makes more sense when you look at it from a business owners pov. It all depends on what the business owner (Pat) wants out of it

    • @Terrorist_Hunter
      @Terrorist_Hunter 4 месяца назад

      PBD!

    • @gregwatts3124
      @gregwatts3124 4 месяца назад +1

      @@JohnRichardson-if4ou Pat has to pay Rogers out of his pocket NOT ESPNs. Proven.

    • @BobJone-ve7ig
      @BobJone-ve7ig 4 месяца назад +6

      ESPN needed him more. The woke side of ESPN killed viewers like me, I miss the games they show, but I will not fund Disney.

    • @gulfsouth6231
      @gulfsouth6231 4 месяца назад +2

      ​@@JohnRichardson-if4ou Even if what you're saying is accurate, the FanDual deal was worth $40mil per year. Whereas this ESPN deal is worth only $17mil per year., less than half. Their is no way McAfee was spending $23mil+ per year on guests and travel.
      Also, it's been made public that ESPN's deal is with Pat McAfee only, not his co hosts. He has to pay them and any guests out of that $17mil.

  • @davidyu9747
    @davidyu9747 4 месяца назад +61

    This is one of the few times where I actually am on Adam's side instead of PBD....PBD tried to push 2 topics but Adam has a point. ESPN is the big leagues, and Pat McA did physically name 1 person...

    • @jimmya2624
      @jimmya2624 4 месяца назад

      Good luck having that argument with an egotistical nut like PBD. How dare you have an opinion that differs from my opinion. You’re wrong, I’m right, I’m the boss and I cut the checks around here

    • @OcctobersXO
      @OcctobersXO 4 месяца назад +3

      ESPN don’t even crack 1 million viewers 😂 know the facts

    • @chipperjones4870
      @chipperjones4870 4 месяца назад +14

      Agreed, Adam is correct. Name another sports entity bigger than ESPN, don't worry I will wait

    • @LuisPerez-zg7nd
      @LuisPerez-zg7nd 4 месяца назад

      @@chipperjones4870having a monopoly on a football and sports network doesn’t make you big leagues if you can’t even beat a million views just look at any other great network that isn’t part of a monopoly that easily do better than espn

    • @sbanats
      @sbanats 4 месяца назад +1

      he made a shit load of money before ESPN Adam? only reason he came to ESPN is because of the brett favre thing and wanted ESPN security

  • @Greenhead24
    @Greenhead24 4 месяца назад +18

    I think PBD missed the point,when he says espn is the big leagues it means that espn is the mainstream of sports

  • @0megaFTW
    @0megaFTW 4 месяца назад +92

    I love Pat, and this is not meant as a slight to him for sure, but when he signed to ESPN / Disney people knew this day was coming, it was a matter of when. He is too fun, too loose, too transparent for a corporate world like that. His formula is what makes him one of the best in the business.

    • @peoplearecrazy1798
      @peoplearecrazy1798 4 месяца назад +1

      Totally

    • @RawDogTV
      @RawDogTV 4 месяца назад +2

      Definitely not one of the best in the business

    • @floridaboy7273
      @floridaboy7273 4 месяца назад

      i swear he's not smh. @@RawDogTV

    • @bosco_sticks
      @bosco_sticks 4 месяца назад

      This is why I don't watch a lot of pbd. The cohosts are so incredibly stupid

    • @Pappy1991
      @Pappy1991 3 месяца назад

      I truly don't think he knew how corrupt the company was. I think he felt that he would make ratings regardless and help change the narrative behind ESPN.
      The political game is evil.
      There are people out there that are living just to tear you down.

  • @jcvdisciple
    @jcvdisciple 4 месяца назад +46

    Damn... PBD really cant take being wrong. In the sports media world, ESPN is absolutely still considered the big leagues. Thats the perception at least and perception is everything.

    • @jimmya2624
      @jimmya2624 4 месяца назад +18

      It’s his ego. It’s running out of control at this point. I’m the boss, I cut the checks, and I’m right about everything. PERIOD!

    • @hunter-zp2hf
      @hunter-zp2hf 4 месяца назад +10

      Yeah it seems like pbd only reacts and gets prideful when he's arguing with Adam. He never reacts like that towards anybody else on the show yet he constantly does this towards Adam. Smh

    • @BrianCheng24
      @BrianCheng24 4 месяца назад

      ​@@hunter-zp2hfagreed

    • @MF-Shogun-Mouro
      @MF-Shogun-Mouro 4 месяца назад +1

      ESPN is not even in the top 10 sports broadcasters in the world, nor is it the top broadcaster in the US. FOX, CBS, NBC, DirecTV, WB/Discovery. When they refer to ESPN as the largest sports broadcaster it is because it operates in the most countries. Which ultimately mean absolutely nothing. According to ESPN they operate in more then 200 countries, but the majority of the world only recognizes 195 countries, smh.

    • @hunter-zp2hf
      @hunter-zp2hf 4 месяца назад +1

      @@MF-Shogun-Mouro ESPN is synonymous with sports. ESPN is the premier sports talk show with the premier sports analysis. Just cuz NBC shows high profile games so their views are higher, which is obvious, doesn't mean ESPN is t the big league in sports. Cuz it deffinitley is and it's.not even close

  • @clay9711
    @clay9711 4 месяца назад +152

    To be fair, the deal Pat has with ESPN is that he allows them to air his show, and they give him so tech support. The show has not demonstrably changed and I’ve been a long time viewer.

    • @jamesritchie992
      @jamesritchie992 4 месяца назад +1

      😆 🤣 😂 😹

    • @AlexsYoutubeAcct
      @AlexsYoutubeAcct 4 месяца назад +15

      Other than the F word lol

    • @fearlv1rattata
      @fearlv1rattata 4 месяца назад

      It's still slipped through quite a bit =]@@AlexsRUclipsAcct

    • @ChasingPerfection
      @ChasingPerfection 4 месяца назад +5

      I've been watching since near the beginning and I agree. No F bomb in the 1st 2 hours is about the only thing that changed. I noticed Rapoport hasn't been on much. Probably because he works for NFL and Pat rips on NFL plus everytime he comes on.

    • @ajwysopal
      @ajwysopal 4 месяца назад +4

      People WATCH a few sec clips and think they know. So it's all good. Like how nobody mentions pat signed a $120+mil deal with fan duel prior to espn.... Had bigger numbers regularly on his RUclips show vs espn.... Daily...

  • @kevinpackard8249
    @kevinpackard8249 4 месяца назад +67

    Pat McAfee's learning the hard way. Do people really still trust networks? Just be independent and out-compete the system.

    • @GodHatesXbox
      @GodHatesXbox 4 месяца назад

      I don’t think he doubted that for a second. He probably believed he could overcome it & that remains to be seen

    • @deanmd6727
      @deanmd6727 4 месяца назад +1

      I would usually agree with you, but being a sports show make it incredibly hard. ESPN and other big companies own all the rights to the IP of the NFL and other leagues. They literally tried to stop him from showing team logos on his show and they had to use fake logos for a period of time.

  • @BobbyBenson808
    @BobbyBenson808 4 месяца назад +62

    Two things can be true at the same time. Adam is right. ESPN - right now, today - is the big leagues for sports viewership, reach, and getting paid. Yes, ESPN needs Pat M and maybe be sinking; but they won't sink for many, many years.

    • @mattbehm9349
      @mattbehm9349 4 месяца назад +4

      Tv is dying. Will be dead in 5 years.

    • @Ac3mxl
      @Ac3mxl 4 месяца назад +7

      Thank you. PBD got all emotional like man relax.

    • @mars3676
      @mars3676 4 месяца назад +3

      @@mattbehm9349 tv is dying for your age group but it’s still alive and they have 11 million subscribers on RUclips

    • @Jmc349
      @Jmc349 4 месяца назад +4

      A quick look at the ratings would disagree.

    • @Maze305
      @Maze305 4 месяца назад

      @@mattbehm9349 ESPN is the highest followed brand on TikTok and has been ahead of the curve/leading the game as far as sports on digital platforms for a while now. Standard tv dying has been a plan they’ve been prepared for better than most, they’ll be alright

  • @terryi.6973
    @terryi.6973 4 месяца назад +13

    ESPN is still big league because of name recognition alone. Yes, they are not as popular (ratings) as they used to be. When people think of burgers, they think McDonalds- they think of sodas, they think Coke, and when people think media sports, they still think ESPN. Whether they watch it or not

    • @BrianCheng24
      @BrianCheng24 4 месяца назад +2

      Exactly. PBD thinks of ESPN like a podcast. ESPN literally is the #1 channel that covers NBA, NFL, and all the major sports.

    • @littlewicky1
      @littlewicky1 3 месяца назад +1

      Totally agree. It was estimated that ESPN is worth around $20 Billion to Disney. I am going to guess thats is more than McAfee

  • @jagmichaelgilbert8523
    @jagmichaelgilbert8523 4 месяца назад +38

    The arguments on this show are literally best. Very few shows are able to accomplish this, different viewpoints. Arguing it out. Totally freely but not from given political or cultural frames where you are already know which each host is going to argue from. They argue much more nuanced but not for the sake of the nuance. But for the sake of being authentic, far more productive and useful. It's like listening to different business advice or sports where meritocracy rules.

  • @buff1122
    @buff1122 4 месяца назад +140

    I will say Pat has done a GREAT job of still being the classic show on ESPN, I was wrong about that. Major props to him

    • @fearlv1rattata
      @fearlv1rattata 4 месяца назад +8

      Agreed. I was way wrong. They are still the same. Who knows how much ESPN has tried behind the scenes to curtail the show's tone, but so far ESPN has been unsuccessful.

    • @joeyfung-i
      @joeyfung-i 4 месяца назад +2

      Spot on for sure. Diggs mentioned Mason Rudolph and then Miles Garrett for the fake “n” bomb. Awkward but Diggs did it well

    • @sirf4ce
      @sirf4ce 4 месяца назад

      What I wasn't counting on and didn't see coming...is Pat and the boys inability to change. They've tried to clean up the F bombs and shit and it hasn't always gone very well!
      I didn't think ESPN would change Pat but I STILL say agreeing to ANY censorship is, by definition, selling out. But if we're talking about degrees, they've sold out to a miniscule level. And some of that is just because...those boys like to say fuck! 🤣

    • @buff1122
      @buff1122 4 месяца назад +2

      @@fearlv1rattatafor sure, if anything they are more toxic 😂 I was dead when they were joking about AR being in a Pfizer commercial and throwing passes with jabs right in the ESPN studio 😂

    • @ORagnar
      @ORagnar 4 месяца назад

      It's probably not going to end well. o

  • @fleckbigsby5432
    @fleckbigsby5432 4 месяца назад +25

    Adam calling ESPN "huckleberries" is probably the best thing he's ever said.

    • @RawDogTV
      @RawDogTV 4 месяца назад

      Stop exaggerating

    • @fleckbigsby5432
      @fleckbigsby5432 4 месяца назад +1

      Who's exaggerating?@@RawDogTV

    • @RawDogTV
      @RawDogTV 4 месяца назад

      @@fleckbigsby5432 you

  • @Caseylawton
    @Caseylawton 4 месяца назад +37

    Just because ESPN is struggling doesn't mean they aren't the "Big Leagues" That's like saying Ford wasn't a major automotive maker back when they were going bankrupt and needed a bail out. Just because a company is failing doesn't mean they aren't "Big League" I think Pat has a different understanding of what the term is.

    • @eroccha
      @eroccha 4 месяца назад +3

      ESPN is not the big leagues. It was 10 years ago. You are conflating big with big leagues. Spotify and YT are big leagues. Either of those 2 get more traffic in a day than ESPN gets in a month.

    • @jeremikurry3167
      @jeremikurry3167 4 месяца назад +7

      FORD NEVER TOOK THE BAILOUT DOGE AND GM DID!

    • @greatestgameonearth
      @greatestgameonearth 4 месяца назад +10

      @@eroccha ESPN is the big leagues for sports broadcasting. They have the rights to the game footage, and the biggest sports shows. Spotify and YT are content hosting platforms... The NFL has way less viewers than YT, doesn't mean it isn't the big league for football.

    • @702TifosiGambler
      @702TifosiGambler 4 месяца назад +8

      @@erocchaare you factoring hospitals,fitness centers, airports,bars,pubs etc that play ESPN 247. They aren’t playing Spotify and “streaming ”

    • @eroccha
      @eroccha 4 месяца назад

      @@702TifosiGambler Spotify daily has over 500 million views. ESPN has about a million a day. Their highest was Dec. 30 at 2.6 million. ESPN stats are on their website you can google it to verify. Spotify has more views in a day (500 mil) than the total of cable subscribers(72 million).

  • @lexstacks6944
    @lexstacks6944 4 месяца назад +23

    Love this show pbd. Found it during covid, and been a faithful listener ever since.. always great conversations and guests.

  • @balbomb
    @balbomb 4 месяца назад +18

    Day after he announced the ESPN deal, he got on his show and said "got to be honest with you, wasn't quite expecting the fans reaction. You might say they hated the announcement". He is one of the only people to be that honest. That sincerity goes a long way and as long as he doesn't change, his audience will follow him. Valuetainment should be the first people to recognize what a big youtube following he has. Most of just refuse to support ESPN and watch online.

  • @Makai77
    @Makai77 4 месяца назад +43

    It used to be that ESPN made the personality a star. Now they need a personality like McAfee to help them stay relevant. It's good to see folks like Dan Patrick, Rich Eisen, Colin Cowherd, etc. leave ESPN and still be successful on their own. I, and many friends of mine haven't watched ESPN for years.

    • @theartistreturns
      @theartistreturns 4 месяца назад

      It's called "talent acquisition"..All media platforms do it.. Find who's hot..run into the ground/course. rinse lather. repeat...McAfee ALREADY had a 120 mil deal with YT/Fan Duel; but he took the offer; not ESPN...

    • @jl4018
      @jl4018 4 месяца назад +2

      I stopped when Jason Collin’s came out and every time I tried to catch highlights or occasional show on ESPN they kept talking about Collin’s. It happened for what felt like a month before I gave up on them.
      They also stopped showing baseball highlights as much even though it was getting better ratings than the NBA. I liked both but I could never see much on there with the MLB being covered. I recall one of their magazines back then had more space dedicated to softball than the MLB which had maybe a page or two (of at least 50) during the middle of the season.

    • @marcelohendrix6139
      @marcelohendrix6139 4 месяца назад +1

      choosing to watch fox over espn is certainly a choice

    • @donsolos
      @donsolos 4 месяца назад +1

      Rich Eisen? Cowherd? Barf
      I would agree if you added lebetard and others like him and DP

  • @huntuhhh
    @huntuhhh 4 месяца назад +17

    Adam is right about people not knowing who he was, I’m an avid listener of show and none of my coworkers (besides some youngers) watched or really knew of pat mcafee until his ESPN debut now they are watchers of the show and would most likely follow him if he left… he was introduced to a whole new audience (non internet crowd) and I believe that is why he did the deal,as well as a broader more high profile network of guest for the show… he’s openly stated similar things on his show

    • @huntuhhh
      @huntuhhh 4 месяца назад

      His audience 10000% knew this would happen and warned him but he thought it was political hysteria now he is seeing the world for what it is… interestingly I feel I’ve noticed a shift in his politics especially since becoming a father and being exposed to varied thinkers like rodgers..the blow back he received for just talking to some people or about them woke him up.. they don’t talk much politics on the show on purpose which is appreciated.. BUT he does make a lot of side comments and inferences as jokes that are a bit right leaning or at least in the sphere of conversation..

  • @sgmarich
    @sgmarich 4 месяца назад +33

    I can't believe I'm going to say this, Adam is right and Patrick is wrong. ESPN is the big league. Pat even said it at the beginning of the clip. More people are watching the show now. His audience is bigger than ever.
    Saying that,ESPN/Disney is the devil and Pat MacAfee sold his soul.

    • @qualicumjack3906
      @qualicumjack3906 4 месяца назад +1

      How did he sell his soul? The show hasn’t changed at all

    • @m.c.5761
      @m.c.5761 4 месяца назад

      Don't agree that Adam is right but PM definitely sold his soul to the devil.

    • @BobJone-ve7ig
      @BobJone-ve7ig 4 месяца назад +2

      No, all cable t v is a dying industry. They were big league. They hastened their demise with the woke shit. Because of how content is now viewed, they were all ready dying off.

    • @blankken8071
      @blankken8071 4 месяца назад +2

      Yes exactly dude. He couldn’t be more wrong. And his ignorance is so strong I feel like he almost knows he’s wrong.. almost.

    • @blankken8071
      @blankken8071 4 месяца назад

      @user-ec8rn8vo3yYou saying “nobody watches espn” does not make it a true statement lol. Don’t you remember that facts don’t care about your feelings? It is a network giant across all platforms. More Americans and people in the world know what ESPN is than Pat mcafee…

  • @BruceKraftJr
    @BruceKraftJr 4 месяца назад +44

    Wow PBD was wrong twice in one segment. Kudos to Adam for standing up for himself.
    Yes ESPN is sinking but it's synonymous for being number one in sports for a long time and it will take a long time for it to sink.
    Adam was right.
    3/4 into the video, PBD said that more than one name was mentioned. That later ended up not being true, as there was a generalization by Pat McAfee, and only one specific person was pointed out just like Adam was saying.
    PBD was wrong again. Adam was right again.

    • @Visor8888
      @Visor8888 4 месяца назад +5

      Spot on PBD couldn’t debate his way out of this hole. He kept digging 😂

    • @OcctobersXO
      @OcctobersXO 4 месяца назад +5

      ESPN don’t even crack 1 million views wtf are y’all even talking about 😂

    • @benfontenot9896
      @benfontenot9896 4 месяца назад +1

      Adam was right on the ESPN being the biggest ship but PBD was generally right that Pat was talking about ESPN as a whole and not just one name.

    • @benfontenot9896
      @benfontenot9896 4 месяца назад

      @@BatSygnal That is fair but I think ESPN is still one of if not the most viewed sports program. So ESPN did help Pat with getting his name across to more and different viewers plus money. Its viewship is definitey declining though.

    • @LuisVaal
      @LuisVaal 4 месяца назад

      You are a pure idiot if you think ESPN is “where it’s at”you can do the research yourself they are a sad shadow of what they used to be…they need Pat and Shannon because if they don’t have those two they fall into complete obscurity

  • @roccoschirripa1103
    @roccoschirripa1103 4 месяца назад +12

    Love this show… Adam was clearly right here for once lol

  • @legiobevakning7096
    @legiobevakning7096 4 месяца назад +4

    You do realize that Pat McAfee made 120 million dollars with former deal with Fanduel. He moved to ESPN to get full access to NFL, NHL; NBA and College Football. Because he and his crew LOVES SPORTS.

  • @TushTV
    @TushTV 4 месяца назад +10

    PBD cannot be wrong. He knows what the other dude is saying, but he’s going to continue arguing for the sake of arguing m

    • @SA-hz1rs
      @SA-hz1rs 4 месяца назад

      Hes a child

    • @RawDogTV
      @RawDogTV 4 месяца назад

      Childish

  • @NuffxSaid
    @NuffxSaid 4 месяца назад +31

    Pat knew better than to sign up with ESPN. That company is on fire and has been for a decade.

    • @KansasFarmer620
      @KansasFarmer620 4 месяца назад +5

      They went woke

    • @blankken8071
      @blankken8071 4 месяца назад

      @@KansasFarmer620lol you guys are like mirrored parrots, “they went woke, bud light bud light go woke go broke, fauci, woke, Disney, don’t make me take the shot” lol you all have turned into the real snowflakes

    • @uknasa007
      @uknasa007 4 месяца назад +1

      @@KansasFarmer620 what does woke mean?

  • @JarvisSilas
    @JarvisSilas 4 месяца назад +6

    Adam is right tho, traditional sports TV wise, ESPN is the big leagues

  • @tylerbuckner3750
    @tylerbuckner3750 4 месяца назад +11

    ESPN is the big leagues of corporate media. Pat Mac was at the top of alternative media, a completely different category. Now he’s at the top of both categories. That’s the distinction that PBD isn’t allowing.

    • @patrickcurran3916
      @patrickcurran3916 4 месяца назад +2

      Thank you for being honest. Adam won that debate. PBD was being emotional and actually came off as jealous and bitter. If you argue ESPN isn’t the big leagues right now, you’re just not being honest. PBD was trying too much to be ahead of the curve. He was acting like a bitch during that debate, just being completely honest. Btw, I’m not defending ESPN. But we gotta be honest and truthful here.

    • @SA-hz1rs
      @SA-hz1rs 4 месяца назад

      ​​@@patrickcurran3916pbd is always emotional
      Hes a crybaby

  • @mr5timewcwchamp
    @mr5timewcwchamp 4 месяца назад +5

    Will say Adam was right, Pat was extremely popular before ESPN but he’s full on mainstream stream popular now.
    I know ESPN is losing steam but its finances indicate they’re doing very well. In fact it’s Disney that’s doing so terribly as to why they’re making cuts at ESPN.
    ESPN is on in every single bar in the country, and as a result Pat is now on in every single bar

  • @basilcarroll9729
    @basilcarroll9729 4 месяца назад +11

    ESPN did not show the U.S.A. Jr hockey team sing the National anthem after winning the Gold medal. Tells you a lot.

    • @p-raider2093
      @p-raider2093 4 месяца назад

      😅 who cares

    • @basilcarroll9729
      @basilcarroll9729 4 месяца назад

      @@p-raider2093 They didn't take a knee,,some People like that.

  • @danielskahl
    @danielskahl 4 месяца назад +9

    Absolutely correct. ESPN, ABC, NBC, CNN, Fox News, etc are no longer the big leagues, nor are they they any longer the mainstream. They are the failing corporate media. Your podcast along with Joe Rogan, Tim Pool, Pat McAfee, etc are the big leagues, and are the new main stream.

  • @ChiliPeppers246484
    @ChiliPeppers246484 4 месяца назад +5

    Pat has all the leverage. Worst case is they fire him and he still got the bag and he goes to any other network immediately goes back to the same ratings. He doesnt need ESPN at all.

  • @JuiceArmstrong
    @JuiceArmstrong 4 месяца назад +6

    Adam right on he only named 1 person, the "they're alot of those" is referring to the stories coming out in the different publications about his low ratings

  • @tribehasspoken4038
    @tribehasspoken4038 4 месяца назад +35

    Its as if everyone is forgetting that Pat said he would never sell out and join espn just to join them and months later look for sympathy, yea i dont feel bad not even for a second

    • @Ibeen_dat
      @Ibeen_dat 4 месяца назад

      I’m not sure what is going on . Is what everyone thought to be true happening ? Meaning ESPN would water down pats show even tho he swore they wouldn’t ?

    • @luissweeney7062
      @luissweeney7062 4 месяца назад +5

      @@Ibeen_dat Those guys don't care about upsetting ESPN at all. I watch all the time, the shows better than ever.

    • @adarkwind4712
      @adarkwind4712 4 месяца назад +2

      . . . .he never asked for sympathy. This was literally him telling ESPN get your house in order.

    • @nicholas4727
      @nicholas4727 4 месяца назад +2

      Stop moralizing. Anybody would take that kind of money, no matter who offered it. You're forgetting that ESPN courted Pat, not the other way around. ESPN needs Pat, not the other way around. He started his own show and ESPN basically pays him for letting them air it on their channel. It's not that he is an ESPN show, but a bunch of mouth breathing conservatives had a brain aneurysm when he started airing on ESPN as well as his RUclips channel.

    • @eroccha
      @eroccha 4 месяца назад +2

      He did not sell out. He just added another way to view his show.

  • @vincentkelly211
    @vincentkelly211 4 месяца назад +3

    PBD is wrong. He definitely called out Norby and nobody else.

    • @MrsPhilosopher
      @MrsPhilosopher 4 месяца назад +1

      Stop being low IQ, the point was that Pat's whole speech was about more than 1 person, even though just 1 name was said for W/E reasons.

  • @davidmacella9648
    @davidmacella9648 4 месяца назад +3

    Pat had a FanDuel deal worth more than the ESPN deal. He is basically leasing his show to ESPN and he is getting access to all the resources that ESPN has that he didn’t have access to. His show is bigger now, and will be bigger when he leaves.

  • @tx1wolf187
    @tx1wolf187 4 месяца назад +3

    LMAO. "No Tom, shut your mouth." Adam was right today.

  • @resqfreedom9308
    @resqfreedom9308 4 месяца назад +14

    Used to listen to Pat McAfee on the Bob and Tom show when he first got the itch to have a successful podcast like he has today. Great guy right there. I loved listening to him while he was still on the colts football team. Hilarious!

    • @Ironman374
      @Ironman374 4 месяца назад

      Same here. I was surprised at how funny he was when I'd listen to the show. Bob & Tom really put him on the map as far as the comedy world goes. I loved that show.

  • @javianjohnson8746
    @javianjohnson8746 4 месяца назад +1

    Not going to lie, I didn't understand it before, but now I completely understand why people are refusing to watch ESPN in droves. Yikes this is a lot of shady stuff

  • @that_celtics_fan
    @that_celtics_fan 4 месяца назад +37

    Adam doesn't realize he's the dumbest guy in the room.

    • @soonermagic24
      @soonermagic24 4 месяца назад +3

      He really is delusional

    • @roku89107
      @roku89107 4 месяца назад +3

      He is delusional but he does have a logical point when he said it’s one name he named

    • @timz3479
      @timz3479 4 месяца назад +9

      He literally owned Pbd in this segment. Pbd can be really stubborn even when faced with facts.

    • @greatestgameonearth
      @greatestgameonearth 4 месяца назад +1

      Game recognizes game

  • @dj1698
    @dj1698 4 месяца назад +11

    Mark Cuban apparently blocked Elon on X this morning

    • @AirJKB13
      @AirJKB13 4 месяца назад +3

      Yes but he’s following Elon on a number of other accounts. He doesn’t want to be the last to know.

    • @markusa5521
      @markusa5521 4 месяца назад +4

      Poor baby can't handle the truth

  • @sheadobson9910
    @sheadobson9910 4 месяца назад +4

    If Spotify were to censor Rogan, they’d open up a precedent that would destroy them. They can’t set standards that would target him that wouldn’t affect the lyrics and content of musicians. If they started cracking down on content, my library alone would be cut in half and I’d go elsewhere.

  • @reggiereg1785
    @reggiereg1785 4 месяца назад +3

    ESPN glory days of the 90's and early 2000's are long gone .

  • @hipplel
    @hipplel 4 месяца назад +3

    Toms energy has gone up significantly. Love to see it!

  • @scottchildress6392
    @scottchildress6392 4 месяца назад +16

    I like how Adam projects on Tom like he is sucking up to PBD when we ALL see Adam as the TOTAL suck up. 😂

    • @eduardogarcia3636
      @eduardogarcia3636 4 месяца назад +6

      Actually all three are.. kinda pathetic to watch

    • @Ac3mxl
      @Ac3mxl 4 месяца назад +3

      All respect to PBD but you can tell he creates a sycophantic environment.

    • @jake.porter
      @jake.porter 4 месяца назад

      idk adam is kind of a dumbass but he’s also the only one on the show who’s not afraid to disagree with pbd.

  • @GC-iy7cg
    @GC-iy7cg 4 месяца назад +3

    I have to agree with Adam this time. He did say at beginning of that conversation- point that Pat M said only one name. But overall espn is not the same sports news. To much bs politics behind & than they bring it on the show.

  • @retrogamefreak4628
    @retrogamefreak4628 4 месяца назад +1

    Adam's Yes! response was absolute comedic timing. Gold

  • @jasonceravone777
    @jasonceravone777 4 месяца назад +1

    ESPN just needs to dust-off the old operating procedures manual from the 90s. Remember Sportscenter running dang near all day and night. Thats what sport’s fans want. We want sports not opinions

  • @aaronbarrie180
    @aaronbarrie180 4 месяца назад +7

    Pat has a contract that gives him 100% creative control. If Espn wants to tweak stuff and he doesn’t he can walk away.
    Also Pat was offered more money by sponsors than Espn. This show really didn’t look into everything before segment.

  • @kcombs6097
    @kcombs6097 4 месяца назад +3

    Pat Does NOT need ESPN but..... ESPN has expanded his presence to new sports fans . It can only help his career

  • @jody7214
    @jody7214 4 месяца назад +2

    His choice to go to ESPN knowing their track record, so anything that happens is on him.

  • @Reactionz_15
    @Reactionz_15 4 месяца назад

    AJ Hawk’s Grin when Pat McAfee name drop Norby was diabolical lol 😂

  • @eag8999
    @eag8999 4 месяца назад +7

    Pat has never been the ideologue who says whatever he believes though. He always shilled for the "anti-Redskins" crowd and said people who said the Washington Football Team the Redskins "sucked". He was terrified to personally say anything against the covid mainstream narrative.
    He just hates being directly targeted. I generally like him, but he always pandered and self-censored. He's just got some more money in his pocket now and is mad someone is targeting him.

    • @7878robert
      @7878robert 4 месяца назад

      Because there is a fine line you have to walk to keep away the headaches. Him and the crew have always rode that line very close though 😂

  • @kingsmma1
    @kingsmma1 4 месяца назад +6

    Typical example of where the owner thinks he’s always right.

  • @staceydecroo4963
    @staceydecroo4963 4 месяца назад

    This controversy is making the Pat McAfee show BIGGER! Pat can NOT apologize!!! Stand strong with your friend Aaron Rogers! Im a 62 year old woman who's hubby watches sports 24/7....but I do not watch. But I am a new fan of The Pat McAfee Show!

  • @MrWorldWide_1
    @MrWorldWide_1 4 месяца назад +1

    I just read a report that McAfee will not have Aaron Rodgers on his show as a guest. Sounds like McAfee took the money and caved to ESPN 🤷🏻‍♂️😂

  • @mikemalone_nyc
    @mikemalone_nyc 4 месяца назад +11

    I just learned about Pat Mcafee about 6 months ago and it’s supposedly the largest sports podcast. Going to ESPN gave him more exposure. It’s the largest sports platform.

    • @ChazinFl1
      @ChazinFl1 4 месяца назад +6

      Largest, and worst!

  • @mjov6655
    @mjov6655 4 месяца назад +3

    Welcome to the corporate world, Pat!

  • @aaronpierce145
    @aaronpierce145 4 месяца назад +1

    @Valuetainment @Patrick Bet-David please have Pat on a sit down, I have watched Pat daily for 3.5 years. As well as watching you for several several years. Please put this together

    • @aaronpierce145
      @aaronpierce145 4 месяца назад

      Also @Valuetainment he left his Fanduel Deal that was much more than ESPN

  • @DesignRhythm
    @DesignRhythm 4 месяца назад +2

    Pat's secret sauce is that NFL players know they will be treated fairly & with respect on his show; thus he can pull guys who won't talk to espn.

  • @ezzio8611
    @ezzio8611 4 месяца назад +7

    In 2024 I hope PBD realizes Adam brings no value or real insight to the Podcast he just simply doesn't understand most things

    • @shanebeck8559
      @shanebeck8559 4 месяца назад +3

      I couldn't stand Adam from the beginning. Dude has drank to much tap water for sure.

  • @darrentoth155
    @darrentoth155 4 месяца назад +3

    He sold himself and made $..... He sold his soul to go to ESPN....

  • @brycemiller4654
    @brycemiller4654 4 месяца назад +1

    ESPN cuts his contract, few weeks later we’ll see a new announcement by Valuetainment Sports!

  • @eamonnkeenan8327
    @eamonnkeenan8327 4 месяца назад +1

    Pat went to espn for the licensing deal. Does everyone forget the demonetization of his RUclips episodes because he showed game footage?
    ESPN gave PMS the ability to expand on segments they do with official game footage.

  • @Thedudeabides803
    @Thedudeabides803 4 месяца назад +3

    I like Pat but I did not follow him to Disney. I will never watch espn mostly because the ads are so close together it’s not worth it. The wokeness makes ESPN a complete no go zone.

  • @KUPUStheGreat
    @KUPUStheGreat 4 месяца назад +10

    Adam is right, these guys are just running circles around his statement. ESPN is the big leagues for all sports simple. That’s what he meant. They do need Pat for more viewers, sure, but that’s not the point Adam is making.

  • @MrS-pe6sd
    @MrS-pe6sd 4 месяца назад +1

    I imagine these guys just sitting around at a trendy LA bar on the patio smoking cigars sipping bourbon and just saying celebrity names to each other for hours.

  • @joshblank1
    @joshblank1 4 месяца назад +2

    He called him out on air to get him fired

  • @jccarp2
    @jccarp2 4 месяца назад +8

    ESPN is 100% the big leagues. Pbd doesn’t understand the situation at all. Pat took Les money to go to ESPN bc it’s the big leagues and bc of their reach. He has said so multiple times.

    • @ChazinFl1
      @ChazinFl1 4 месяца назад

      ESPN is TRASH!

  • @michaelcastaldo4776
    @michaelcastaldo4776 4 месяца назад +3

    Pat is by far one of my favorite humans!!!!! Been watchin his pod since he was doin it in the box truck 😂

  • @biguglyduck540
    @biguglyduck540 3 месяца назад +1

    Worst career move I've seen in a minute by McAfee - jumping on a FAST sinking ship

  • @watupclown
    @watupclown 4 месяца назад +1

    Get Pat on your show! How he built his show is awesome

  • @zackattack635
    @zackattack635 4 месяца назад +9

    You’re gonna have to write it in crayon for Adam to understand.

    • @istaphobe
      @istaphobe 4 месяца назад +2

      Even that’s an iffy proposition

  • @surewhynot6040
    @surewhynot6040 4 месяца назад +6

    "you don't need ESPN". Thats absolutely true. Folks, if ESPN closed doors tmr, it would not affect the world in the least.

  • @Kyleterp1
    @Kyleterp1 4 месяца назад +1

    Back in the day, being at espn was making it, now many people have been successful leaving espn. Espn isn’t what it was.

  • @NonsenseNinja2
    @NonsenseNinja2 4 месяца назад +1

    ESPN needs Pat McAfee, Pat McAfee doesn't need ESPN.

  • @packnanimous
    @packnanimous 4 месяца назад +4

    Sometimes Adam can be incredibly dense with huge blind spots

  • @youngpup9420
    @youngpup9420 4 месяца назад +14

    Do you know how amazing this show would be without Adam?

    • @curiouslyeternal
      @curiouslyeternal 4 месяца назад +6

      One can only dream

    • @lookdoug1516
      @lookdoug1516 4 месяца назад +6

      Adam is literally the reason I can’t watch a whole PBD episode

    • @bocajrs7628
      @bocajrs7628 4 месяца назад +5

      You are right. He never has anything original, insightful, or interesting to say. He is boring and predictable. Why Patrick has him on the show is a mystery. It is essential to hear both sides of any argument, but Adam is not very good at presenting his side of the argument.

    • @egonzalez8427
      @egonzalez8427 4 месяца назад +1

      Lmao

    • @micha3L6969
      @micha3L6969 4 месяца назад +3

      It’d be better, but only if they replaced him with another devils advocate or Classic Democrat guy. Idk about you, but I enjoy the debate and would rather not listen to an echo chamber, which is the exact reason I stopped listening to Mainstream media.

  • @grantviviano4615
    @grantviviano4615 4 месяца назад +6

    The "Shit..." response after Pat's "She does cocaine every day" was awesome!

  • @billyrobertson6203
    @billyrobertson6203 4 месяца назад +1

    The point is that the whoever leaked the info is anonymous and McAfee could have put the info out anonymously but rather put his name to it.

  • @onyx9857
    @onyx9857 4 месяца назад +1

    ESPN made $16 billion top line revenue in 2022. If that is not big league then i don’t know what is.

  • @betogarcia1117
    @betogarcia1117 4 месяца назад +3

    I really Like Adam He always Gives logic To vinnie and actually plays both sides

  • @johns5760
    @johns5760 4 месяца назад +3

    Amazing how money will make many people do things they probably never would..It temporarily blinded Pat..Reality is setting back in and he's probably finally starting to realize he sold out..

    • @jeffgo5742
      @jeffgo5742 4 месяца назад

      Everyone is a sellout now. He went to who was gonna pay him the most

    • @L33Reacts
      @L33Reacts 4 месяца назад

      There is no morals in America when it comes to money. It runs in our genes. It's been indoctrinated into us.

  • @YrnPremier
    @YrnPremier 4 месяца назад

    Phenomenal Content 👌🏼

  • @NonsenseNinja2
    @NonsenseNinja2 4 месяца назад +1

    Also Pat took less money from ESPN and was getting more from his deal with Fan Dual. He went to ESPN for the exposure and reach ESPN has.

  • @user-bz1wx6uu1b
    @user-bz1wx6uu1b 4 месяца назад +6

    ESPN is dead. It's 80s corporate media. It's boring now. And McAfee is just loud but he's tiring. He's the ADD American that would be on Aderyl.

    • @Memroh
      @Memroh 4 месяца назад

      God forbid they bring in someone with some actual energy , not the same snoozefest pundits they’ve had for ages. I know the vocal minority doesn’t like the guy but he’s revitalized College Gameday and his show is the becoming the most popular sports show on TV. *Adderall

    • @user-bz1wx6uu1b
      @user-bz1wx6uu1b 4 месяца назад +1

      @@Memroh He's a loud mouth, that's all he is.

  • @BrazaBryan
    @BrazaBryan 4 месяца назад +10

    How is ESPN not the big leagues when it comes to sports broadcasting? Adam was 100% right in this

    • @jessekrueger2520
      @jessekrueger2520 4 месяца назад +6

      20 years ago

    • @theartistreturns
      @theartistreturns 4 месяца назад

      Who's bigger? I'll wait...
      @@jessekrueger2520

    • @BrazaBryan
      @BrazaBryan 4 месяца назад +1

      @@jessekrueger2520 They've definitely fallen off but in terms of a global sports broadcasting brand, they're still first.

    • @ronpeterson1478
      @ronpeterson1478 4 месяца назад +2

      pat had higher ratings on youtube than any ESPN show prior to him joining.

    • @NuffxSaid
      @NuffxSaid 4 месяца назад

      ESPN is not the big leagues any longer. It was 10 plus years ago. The only reason they still maintain their positions is it's constantly on at bars and bozos like you watch it.

  • @airric1122
    @airric1122 4 месяца назад +2

    Adam's right. Who's the biggest name in sports news? Just because he had the #1 show doesn't trump the entire organization. Gutfeld is the #1 late night guy the last couple of years, but I ask most people to name a late night guy he's the 4th name coming up with most people. PBD the Titanic has seen the iceberg or maybe even hit it, but they haven't sank yet.

  • @istaphobe
    @istaphobe 4 месяца назад +3

    I can’t deal with Adam. He’s killing me. He’s saying the same thing seven different times and seven ways and not listening to the clarity being spewed at him.

    • @NuffxSaid
      @NuffxSaid 4 месяца назад

      Adam is a functioning idiot

    • @jamesg1974a
      @jamesg1974a 4 месяца назад

      He’s an idiot

  • @sis6157
    @sis6157 4 месяца назад +3

    I don’t think Adam realises that pat left a 120m deal with fan duel to go to espn. Also ESPN doesn’t own the show, they license it from Pat. Pat is very nostalgic about ESPN, he wants to try and bring them back to former glory.

  • @McDamaged
    @McDamaged 3 месяца назад

    I stopped watching Pats show when he went to ESPN & a lot of his fans warned him about it. So he knew this was a thing and still walked right into it…

  • @nancykorensek4083
    @nancykorensek4083 4 месяца назад +1

    ESPN needs Pat McAfee more than he needs them.

  • @kennymonty8206
    @kennymonty8206 4 месяца назад +3

    If ESPN went off the air tomorrow, I wouldn't know about it for 2 years.

    • @tonymontez2358
      @tonymontez2358 4 месяца назад

      I guess you don’t watch football or sports at all since ESPN is still the number 1 sports network on cable

    • @kennymonty8206
      @kennymonty8206 4 месяца назад

      @@tonymontez2358 No. I don't. They're values are the opposite of mine.

    • @tonymontez2358
      @tonymontez2358 4 месяца назад

      @@kennymonty8206 interesting so anything whether it’s entertainment or business’s you shop at if their political views don’t align with yours it’s a no go for you huh ? lol 😂

    • @kennymonty8206
      @kennymonty8206 4 месяца назад

      @@tonymontez2358 That's what I strive for. It's not always possible. But, I do my best. I don't know why that's funny. Everyone acts in whatever way supports their values. It's perfectly natural to support people who you believe help you and work against anyone who tries to harm you. Sort of basic, really.

    • @tonymontez2358
      @tonymontez2358 4 месяца назад

      @@kennymonty8206 so I guess it’s just Fox News on all day at your house. I’m guessing you don’t watch any movies or shows or consume any form of entertainment since most of Hollywood are democrats and left leaning correct ?

  • @robertdrake7082
    @robertdrake7082 4 месяца назад +3

    Adam is confused again! We're all surprised ... really, we are!

  • @bklynrayder4512
    @bklynrayder4512 4 месяца назад +1

    Patrick was wrong about this. ESPN is still the Big Leagues. If it wasn’t Pat wouldn’t have signed with them. His viewership increased by being on ESPN. Lot of people that didn’t know McAfee know him now. The audience ESPN reaches around the world is huge. Anyone wanting to watch sports or updates will always go to ESPN channel so Patrick’s feelings doesn’t make his statement true. Sometimes Pat’s feelings get in the way of and he makes statements that are not truthful. Adam needs to stick to his guns when he knows he’s right and not get backed down like Pat did to him.

  • @loyal2thesoil1988
    @loyal2thesoil1988 4 месяца назад

    Man i got so many facts i didnt know before hand....thanks guys

  • @greatestgameonearth
    @greatestgameonearth 4 месяца назад +5

    Adam is right ESPN is the big leagues (for sports broadcasting anyways). Until extremely recently ESPN was the most well known and respected sports broadcasting company in the US. McAfee took the deal because he got a fat paycheck, the stability of being tied to an institution, and he respects/respected ESPN. The confusion is that saying ESPN is the big league implies that Pat needs ESPN and not vice versa. McAfee grew up watching ESPN, they are owned by Disney, they are the biggest fish in the pond. That fish is dying now tho lol

  • @ImNotNormAll
    @ImNotNormAll 4 месяца назад +5

    Aaron Rodgers only said Kimmel would be nervous about the Epstein list release. He never said he would be on it.

    • @benguensche
      @benguensche 4 месяца назад +2

      I mean its heavily implied but yeah

    • @ImNotNormAll
      @ImNotNormAll 4 месяца назад +4

      Could of implied he was nervous because he has friends on that list. Like the Clintons

  • @josephlee2318
    @josephlee2318 4 месяца назад

    True statement! Never heard of Pat unthinkable he went to ESPN

  • @joejas22
    @joejas22 4 месяца назад

    I’m a world famous burger chef and getting a job a McDonald’s is the big league. LOL! Making it on your own and speaking your own words everyday and making money at it……that’s the big league. Not corporate America.

  • @jacksonsportsnetwork3407
    @jacksonsportsnetwork3407 4 месяца назад +3

    I literally couldn't work with PBD. the guys ego is out of control, so arrogant and loves the sound of his own voice. he was proved wrong and still pushed as if he was right.