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I believe Vecna, Eleven and Murray will die. This is very much based on leaks and spoilers. Before filming started, I though Will and Steve will bite the dust.
While I do think we might lose one of the main characters, I’m almost confident the core four boys will survive. I just don’t see any of them dying, though I do think we’ll get a moment like Max’s, where it seems like one of them might be gone. However, one character I could see them killing off is Jonathan. Even though he’s taken a backseat in the last two seasons, his death could be absolutely devastating. Imagine Joyce, who has spent all her energy on Will-understandably-only to lose Jonathan, her ‘glass child’ she’s unintentionally overlooked. The emotional impact would be heartbreaking.
Jonathan's impact would be way lesser because, as you yourself said, he literally was barely in S4 and he also got character assassination. It'd make way more sense for Will to die instead
@BharathJayasankar I get what you’re saying, but I just don’t see Will being killed. The whole idea of ‘the story started with Will, and it’ll end with Will’ seems more like he’s the key to defeating Vecna, not that he’ll die. Personally, I think Eleven is the most likely to die. I see Will and Eleven working together, with Will being the key and Eleven the ‘tool’ to defeat Vecna. You could even argue that the phrase applies to Eleven too-she opened the portal, so she’s likely to be the one to close it. Between the two, though, I think Eleven’s more likely to die. But who knows? Will could still die too. We’ll just have to wait and see.
@@josse0o0 i gotta agree with you on this one, it just seems a bit out of place for will to die because of many reasons. I personally think eleven dying with the upside down would be a great send off.
I think Jonathan and Murray are far and away the most likely to die. I love both of them, but Murray is a “less important” character just by reason of him being introduced in season 2 and not having any familial ties to anyone else and Jonathan would arguably be the least devastating death out of of all three Byers, which I feel would be the biggest “main character” death the Duffers would be willing to have in the show. As for other characters who have long been rumored to die, such as El and Steve, I kind of think they’ll survive just because The Duffers know that so many people don’t think they’ll survive season 5 and will want it to shock the audience
This was fun. I enjoyed it very much. I can't help but remember Vecna telling/showing Nancy that her mom, Holly, and Mike will RIP. I'm looking forward to Season 5 but I'm dreading it too.
Fun fact: Stranger things has already subverted the "bury the gays" trope. In the 80s, gay characters were usually killed off, often in a house shootout, and there was already a house shootout in stranger things season 4. And instead of conforming to the bury the gays cliche, Will survived and literally ended up burying someone else (the officer who gave them the pen) Therefore, if they were going to kill off Will, specifically for his situation with Mike, they probably would have already done so in this scene which was a clear subversion to the steriotype.
... That scene wasn't even a major sacrifice point. Will is still one of the main characters of the show, and they literally don't kill off ANY main characters in the 4 Seasons we've got. If they were to kill off 1 of them it'd be in a big sacrifice kind of way in the final season, not on some house shootout
Will's never getting shot dead, especially not in a random episode. Any dying on his part will be supernatural related and in the climax. Even then, the chances of this are so low, for me. Also I'm struggling to recall an 80's movie where gay character dies or gets killed in a shootout?
As some people have said my personel opinion on who is the least likely to survive is jonathen because I think it will be sort of poetic in a dark way for joyce to have been looking after will for such a long time and Jonathan dying or it can be joyce dying looking out for one of her sons wich will definitely hit right in the feels.
i personally think murray is (apart from vecna) most likely to die because he would make the usual secondary character death. it would affect hopper & joyce majorly, but it wouldn't be the biggest lost? it would be sad but i feel like he is going to go
I think the Duffer's said they will only do meaningful deaths though. It's like prior to Endgame - everyone predicting Hawkeye, War Machine, Falcon to die... nope - it was actually the big three that got it.
There are no reports of Eleven and Murray filming epilogue scenes, so these two might not survive. The rest of the characters reportedly filmed a graduation scene, including Steve and Robin.
@@petrilio also Johnathan Nancy was not there same with Nancy idk for the epilogue reports lots of leakers have different rumors of who was there I think will might still die and they would need Noah schapp to be there for maybe the boys also having a memorial on set
The whole purpose of the show has been eleven dying or disappearing at the end since season 1. She is supposed to be this person who shows up and saves everyone then leaves at the end it wouldn’t make sense for her to lead on a normal life with powers after Hawkins is saved. She has seen too much and been thru too much to live life like normal. I could be wrong tho and they pull it off in a way that makes sense.
One thing I'm hoping they do this season is Eleven taking control of the mind flayer and using it against Vecna. One thing I love is when a villain. As despicable as Vecna gets a taste of their own medicine, and they experience all the horrors that they inflicted on the heroes. So if possible Eleven could strike vecna's mind with hallucinations. Or turn the upside down against him.
That would be BADASS, imagine her just levitating in the Upside down, controlling the shadow form of the Mind Flayer from the up and just wrecking giant rocks on Vecna as he desperately tries to run away. And imagine that scene being a literal parallel to the scene where Max is running away from Vecna 😳
I think Max is safe from death. They made her the embodiment of trauma and depression last season so they could also make her into the embodiment of hope. With her character, they are sending the message that you are stronger than the bad things that happen to you. That you are not alone. That message is CENTRAL to this entire show. So, I don’t think they can kill the character that now embodies that sentiment. Not after Running up that hill.😢
honestly, this is exactly how I would put it! im scared for season five, but im also really excited! i just KNOW we're going to have a very devastating death for some BIG character in the show. I think the Duffers have been scared for all seasons leading up to this one killing off main characters, but I think they're going to do it this season. I can't wait!!!!! Love these videos!!
Lemme get this straight, if steve dies im gonna loose it fr 😭 I just can't imagine Steve's death it will be so sad for Dustin , nancy and the rest (and for me btw) anyway, they can't kill him cuz they already killed off Eddie he was like a big brother to Dustin, like Dustin was already heartbroken by Eddie's death I just can't imagine his death I will be flipping mentally broken 😭
I mostly agree, especially with your view on Eleven + I think I heard somewhere Millie wouldn't want to be in sequels or spinoffs. I do however think Will will be alive and well. He is more traumatized than Dustin imo. He's been bullied, overlooked by friends, kidnapped, possessed, etc. And just for him to die, it'd be awful. And I really think the saddest part of Joyce possibly dying is Johnathon and Will being alone, they might have Hopper and their friends but to lose there mom would be devestating. Also a bit off topic but I'm 100% sure Max won't be awake at the beginning of episode one, maybe the end. But just to start with her awake would be ridiculous and undermine her ending season 4 in a coma.
Without spoilers and based on Nancy’s vision in season 4, I’d put all the wheelers in the up in the air category. Anyone she loves is in jeopardy. When you said subverting expectations it reminded me of Nancy being a Final Girl, your theory would be interesting…
Personal death ranking Most 1. Vecna 2. Eleven 3. Will 4. Holly 5. Nancy 6. Murray 7. Karen 8. Jonathan 9. Steve 10. Max 11. Robin 12. Hopper 13. Joyce 14. Vickie 15. Mike 16. Dustin 17. Lucas 18. Erica
I'm going to say I think your ranking is spot on. I do agree that oneone's gonna be the one to sacrifice yourself to destroy Vecna and the upside down. I think it'll have the most emotional ending of the entire show. But yeah, it's really scary to think about what could happen with Max, considering she was central in season 4.
You just nailed why I was so disappointed with Harry Potter. I wanted Harry to die with Voldemort. Not because I don’t love his character, but because it’s hella more cool to go out in a blaze of glory, taking out the bad guy. I hope they DO kill Eleven with Vecna. But I don’t trust that they have the nerve to do it.
i think, will could sacrifice himself for holly and stay with vecna in the upside down, then el would come and save him and sacrifice herself for everyone and maybe after vecna being killed his victims/ the spirits would finally be free i bet it’d be so emotional visually so good for the show the characters seeing their love ones disappearing to the air
I think you have missed an early-season death of a character we had since S2. I (unfortunately) think Owens is going to die pretty early in S5. The scenario is that they try to rescue him from the military because they need him because of all the knowledge he has over what all happened with the government program by Brenner. And I think during that rescue he will unfortunately die (through the military). The reason behind that (and why it also is likely at the beginning of the season) is to establish the military as the second big thread to your characters
Eleven is literally the only character I feel like would make sense to die in terms of her being the main character & sacrificing herself for everyone else
For me it's Mike who is going to die. He is connected to everyone, so it would be the sadest for the others. He is the heart of the crew. And look, they are teens it's so unlikely that they stay friends forever. Without their heart it's easy to make a time jump and show that they sadly moved on without eachother. Yes Mike wasn't really likebable in season 4 but they can turn him in the last season. It would be so hard for all of us who did him wrong in season 4. Nobody assumes him to die, so why shouldn't they kill him and surprise us.
Im still on the vecna 100% dying and I feel like it'll go down like eddie planned it in the season 4 game... and Erica ending it kinda like how harry potter had nevil longbottom with the final blow instead of harry.
It will be such that eleven has to be killed (or made dormant) to stop the upside down from affecting Hawkins. And the gang has to almost "euthanize" eleven ? Mike , obvs not being on board with the plan..kinda becomes a negative character. But on seeing wills status, makes the decision and says goodbye to 11 and vecna. At the end we might see 11 signaling Mike thru the upside down...but that would be a cliffhanger
Unfortunately some leaked pics spoiled some characters who survive. But my guess for whos most likely to die is Jonathan, just makes sense for his arc and will have great effect on joyce and Will. Only other option is Will or El but i think that would simply be too sad and unsatisfying.
My top characters I think will die is El will Johnathan and Nancy I think it’s ganna be el and Nancy or el and Johnathan dying with will as a dark horse
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Completed my tier but I dropped X like a bad habit back in November so I'll just run it down here. Alive & Well: Erica, Mike, Dustin, Lucas, and Max (per my theory, the coma is preserving her body thanks to Eleven, she's still alive because Vecna survived S4). Should Be Safe: Joyce, Hopper, Mrs. Wheeler, Vickie, Robin. Up In The Air: Steve, Nancy, Jonathan, Murray (when it comes to Steve, the Duffers have faked us out before about his demise, only for him to survive so if we lose him, at least we all know now it will be a hero's death. Split down the middle about Jancy since they're both keen to run towards danger in the name of love). Not Looking Good: Holly Wheeler, Eleven (every season has given us a senseless or unfair end to an innocent or good-hearted character; S1 was Barb, S2 was Bob, S3 was Alexei, S4 was Chrissy. S5 may be sacrificing Holly, which would set up Mrs. Wheeler to play a much more pivotal role in the season). RIP: Will, Vecna (my mind isn't made up between Will and Eleven but I have a feeling that the plan will begin with Eleven taking the final bow, only for Will to sacrifice himself almost in the same fashion as his action at the end of the first campaign in S1 E1).
I see el and will having a higher chance out of the kids I don’t see the other kids dying I feel like Lucas will have a happy ending when max recovers from the coma hope she does Mike is prolly ganna lose his mom so I don’t think they would kill of him I see his family members dying Dustin I don’t think so it won’t make sence to kill him off and would be messed up also his character is ganna deal with grief and loss it won’t make sence for him to die el and will make the most sence and most likely el
@samdidar8117 el and will are the most obvious. That's why I feel they will try to throw us with a death like Dustin. And to your point about it being messed up because he's dealing with the loss of eddie. I mean, look at all the stuff will and el have been through. I think they all deserve a happy ending, but el and will have been through the most
I do agree about Mike Lucas Dustin Joyce and hopper but will is up in the air I really think he has a big chance of dying and maybe in the graduation scene they will have a memorial of will
Will and El worry me cause they are both connected somehow to the Upside Down. It would be a plot twist to have one of the way younger kids die like Erica or Mike's little sister.
Karen was in Venca's vision for Nancy. I don't think that is a good things, but they don't kill any of the main characters so...who knows. I will say if they don't kill any or multiple of the main character the final season will be cheese. If they take out one of the main cast early then it's game on. Anything can happen and that part of great tv shows. No one should be safe.
I can see Eleven dying but really hope not. I want her to have a happy ending with her new family 😢 And seriously, don't give Hopper anymore heartache 💔 I could see Will dying, sacrificing himself for his friends maybe, as he always put his friends first amongst everything. I did think Jonathan or Steve, maybe Jonathan sacrificed for Will and/or Nancy. Now I've heard your explanation about Steve, I fear for him! Again, no more heartache for Dustin! 😢
Steve also ain’t goin no where…who else is gunna get Dustin ready for life post HS if they do some type of graduation or something?🥹😭 or better yet if Steve JOINS Dustin and go to Purdue???? That school was referenced in S3 sooooo who knows!👀
I agree with all of them, but i really think vickie is gonna die too, cause they introduced bob and killed him, they introduced billy and then killed him, then alexi and at last eddie, ST was too afraid to lose the og cast that they had to introduce characters just to kill them, so i think it is highly possible for vickie to die, maybe she gets a storyline where we establish a deep connection w her like billy and eddie
Yall say Steve might die every season and he never bites the dust 😂 Trust me he will make it out this season.yall Steve fans having nothing to worry about
i would say that if they killed murray, it would be similar to how they killed remus lupin in harry potter. lupin was used to add body count, but also had a large impact on the (marauders) fans. but i do not see the duffers killing main characters just to say they killed more people.
I think Lupin was killed off to signify Harry losing yet another father figure/family member in his life, and it completed the Marauders storyline. Murray, however is not as important of a character so another character would definitely have to be killed off in addition to him (if they kill Murray) to make it more impactful.
I have the exact opposite take for eleven and Mike, I think they're gonna do it as eleven gets to live a life of freedom whereas Mike has had a full life until the show started. Mike sacrificing himself for eleven like a "knight in shining armor" fits the theme and story
Steve better not die this season brooo. every season bro has got whooped. S1 by Johnathan, S2 by Billy, S3 by the Russians, and Season 4 he almost got packed by bats like give my guy a break 😭 he’s my favorite character
Ye I feel like he is ganna have a fake death like I feel like that audio clip of someone yelling Steve run is ganna be his fake death I will say I think he might get chased by a demagorgon and when everyone thinks he got killed and eaten he comes back un hurt either no scratches and there ganna have a plot scene when he miracly survived
@ that would be tufff 🔥 I’m just so excited for this season to drop!! my top 3 shows I can’t wait for the new season are 1. Stranger things 2. invincible 3. Squid games
I honestly think lucus might have a chance of dying because he will think he is the fault (if Max doesn't make it which I don't think will happen) and also will most likely sacrifice himself for Max! Also, think Murray will die which will affect a lot of those characters as he has always just been there he hasn't had a MAJOR act but maybe he will we won't know yet! Btw these are just theories I don't believe these ❤
i personally think dustin will die, or has a high chance of dying cause in season three he says ‘if you die i die’ to steve and so i think rather like he will sacrifice himself if Steve is about to die, or they die together fighting vecna
I don't think Karen will be alright bc of the leaked pics with holly he's tryna get close to the wheelers to kill off their mam so they feel the heartache of losing someone. But LMK your opinion
I think at least one of the older kids would bite the dust in my opinion how likely are they to die:Jonathan,Steve,Nancy Robin with eleven/will dyig as well as vecna and maybe murray And I would love to see Hopper,Steve and Dustin being allive Steve either being with Nancy or at least being allive
I don’t see them killing 5 mains imma ganna say like 2 mains prolly eleven or Johnathan and if they don’t die will and Nancy as dark horses with I also think Murray is ganna die but I don’t consider him a main tho
HOT TAKE: I dont want ANY of them main cast to die. I dont need the BS death of someone I case about to motivate me. It will only piss me off. It will take away my enjoyment of the final season. Everyone speculated who in GUARDIANS 3 would die and lo and behold, none of them died and the movie was AMAZING and I got to see a wonderful character arch for everyone. Because I didn't need a death to appreciate there are risks or to know what's at stake. I've had 4 seasons to get that. I'm already bought in. Frankly I'm sick and tired of the blood just. It's why I didn't love Game of Thrones as much as many others. The return on my investment into a character shouldn't be to watch them die, even if they die a hero. That's, in the end, just a bummer. There's plenty of Death already. So many have died it's impossible to keep count. Let our heroes live.
The DUFFER Bros said it started with the original 4, it’ll end with them. So the original 4 aren’t dying (Mike, Will, Lucus, Dustin) will live. Others could die.
Eleven will most likely die. Unless, after everything, somehow her powers are completely taken away from her to live a semi-normal, happy life. That's the only way I can see her surviving S5. Keeping her alive with her powers just seems silly to me. I don't see Will ending up dying, considering the first 2 seasons were about saving him. All of that will be rendered useless just for them to kill him off at the end. My guesses are, Eleven, Vecna, Steve or Jonathan, and possibly Murray.
I really don't the get the Mike S4 hate. The guy got on a plane to go see his friends, who were both then being weird with him. Me, I'd be so annoyed! And yet he's always the first to apologise/break-the-ice and make people feel better even though he's not in the wrong. I get he's the leader of the group and always looked after everyone - but jeez, every other character's shortcomings get completely overlooked.
I actually don’t agree with the positioning of Mike bc he’s connected the most to eleven and will who are two people very likely to die, and with him already sacrificing himself for Dustin in season 1, I can see him doing something similar in season 5, or vecna directly targeting him bc of how close he is to eleven and will.
I disagree on Dustin. Out of the the four original boys he’s the most likely to die in my opinion. I think he’s a fan favorite and he never had a fakeout and never had his own self sacrifice moment which he should definitely get this time. I think his death could echo Eddies
characters I think are definitely safe are Dustin, Mike, Lucas, Erika, Joyce, Robin, and Vickie characters I'm 75% sure are going to live: Hopper, Jonathan, Nancy characters I'm 50/50 on: Karen, Murray, Max characters I'm 75% sure are going to die: Will, Steve, Holly characters that are definitely going to die: Eleven, Vecna
Oh!! So Dustin dying would be too cruel but having the boy who got kidnapped, bullied, starved, abused and more as well as be hate crimed for being gay and potentially have the boy he likes/loves be not into him. He got possessed and had Vecna visions/mind flayer visions at 12/13. He had to send people to their deaths against his will and has to face homophobia from his best friend. As well as watch the man he likes/loves be in a relationship with his sister. His dad divorced his mom and treated him like crap and I can go on if you’d like. Point is it’s fucking stupid to say that it would be cruel for Dustin to die but not Will?? Yeah it’s because he’s the gay one right? Utterly disgusting.
The point was that Dustin lost Eddie, so it would be cruel if they killed him right after that. With Will, it's possible that he dies because he's somehow connected to the upside down and everything. Its so annoying to see you crying "its because he is gay" or something, nobody cares about that.
I feel like jonathan is nailed on , joyce has focussed on will for years so to lose jonathan would be a massive death. I feel like its up in the air with ell i can see arguments for both sides, murray i think will die too as hes not as important as the others
I think vecna is gonna kill hopper and that will give El enough anger and sadness (the duo emotions of power) to kill vecna and I think El will die killing vecna, saving her friends, but that’s just my theory
Instead of someone dying I can see in the finale fight vecna knocks el down and vecna goes to kill mike but el get the courage and strength to get back up and you her full power to save mike and then gets into another big fight against vecna and ultimately sacrifices herself to destroy the upside down and vecna
I deffinetly don’t agree with will dying, it wouldn’t make sense, I know a lot of people are saying “oh, he’s connected to the upside down so he has to die” not really, imagine you survive a crazy incident and go through years of trauma to just end up dead from the same thing, it would just be kinda pointless. Also he’s been in love with Mike for like the whole show, I don’t think they would just kill him off without them having a happy ending, I know a lot of people hate him just because he’s gay and in love with Mike (because of mileven 😒) but it tires me that they don’t understand that sometimes it just is that way, not all couples turn out perfect, this is not a romcom. Anyways I hope that they don’t kill him off not only because he’s an amazing character but also because of the plot.
I think that Mike is going to die. Think about it, he was labeled "the heart" of the group in season 4. Vecna will kill Mike in front of El, and that will make El's powers stronger. She will injure Vecna, and then the rest of the group will have to navigate without Mike. Also, El would harness her anger driven by Mike's death, and destroy Vecna, as well as the entire upside down, and by extension, Will. El will also die because she would have over used her powers, and she would die in the upside down, clutching Mike's hand. This is just my Theory.
Honestly I think she should have died in season 3 from the hospital monster, I mean it's quite considerable when you realize she wasn't that great of a character in season 3, and she was kinda irrelevant in the first half of season 4. Sure she was a great character in chapter 7 through 9 but I think it would have put more depth killing such an unexpected character halfway through the series. It'd also be good to give Mike more emotion as a cherry on top from that, considering he's kind of unthoughtful. Followed by giving Holly a reason for PTSD to be able to be targeted by vecna. I also think it could expand Robin and Steve's arc in season 4, they were left quite untouched in season 4. Also gives opporturnities for Jonathan to remark on his past and realize what he could've done more for Nancy.
@@2yan0aye Nancy was not really spotted in the end or epilogue I think Steve will have another fake death this season but will survive I don’t really see Robin dying it would be Boring to kill of another newer character so Éthier between Nancy and Johnathan makes sence I think the love triangle will get broken
I honestly disagree I don't think Dustin is 100% in the clear yes it would be insanely difficult to watch but just imagine Dustin sacrificing himself for Steve the man he looks up to because he couldn't save Eddie. And I genuinely think it would be way more cruel to kill Steve than Dustin just because you would be taking another person he looks up to away
I want Karen to play a big role in season 5 Alice creel would be a good plot and by the end of the season when we’re all attached she does lots of people want people to survive but I want a lot of death and heartbreak for the final season for the best experience
I really don’t think Will should die, it wouldn’t make sense for the story to have him die but none of the other kids die. I expect some deaths in S5, but I am hoping it’s not any of the main 4 og kids
We know steve and dustin dont die there is press photos of them meeting at dustins college we know that max is alive because max and lucas go to the movies at the end we know that joyce and hopper are alive because they have a date at enzos the only characters i think that are 100%, gonna die are eleven and will cus we do not see anything from them mabye for spoiler reasons but i doubt they survive
How would you rank these characters by how likely they are to survive in Season 5? You can fill out your own tier list HERE: tiermaker.com/create/st-characters-based-on-how-likely-they-are-to-survive-in-s5-15263093
I think Jonathan and will might die but I honestly don’t know because it can go either way if who can die 😢
I really don’t want stranger things to end it’s one of my favorite shows of all time and always will be
Will you record your reaction for season 5 and post it on your RUclips when it comes out?
Highest To Lowest: Eleven, Will, Mike, Hopper, Joyce
I believe Vecna, Eleven and Murray will die. This is very much based on leaks and spoilers. Before filming started, I though Will and Steve will bite the dust.
While I do think we might lose one of the main characters, I’m almost confident the core four boys will survive. I just don’t see any of them dying, though I do think we’ll get a moment like Max’s, where it seems like one of them might be gone. However, one character I could see them killing off is Jonathan. Even though he’s taken a backseat in the last two seasons, his death could be absolutely devastating. Imagine Joyce, who has spent all her energy on Will-understandably-only to lose Jonathan, her ‘glass child’ she’s unintentionally overlooked. The emotional impact would be heartbreaking.
I think will would be the one to go. Because it started with him so it could end with him and it's the last season ,the core four boys aren't safe
Jonathan's impact would be way lesser because, as you yourself said, he literally was barely in S4 and he also got character assassination. It'd make way more sense for Will to die instead
@BharathJayasankar I get what you’re saying, but I just don’t see Will being killed. The whole idea of ‘the story started with Will, and it’ll end with Will’ seems more like he’s the key to defeating Vecna, not that he’ll die. Personally, I think Eleven is the most likely to die. I see Will and Eleven working together, with Will being the key and Eleven the ‘tool’ to defeat Vecna.
You could even argue that the phrase applies to Eleven too-she opened the portal, so she’s likely to be the one to close it. Between the two, though, I think Eleven’s more likely to die. But who knows? Will could still die too. We’ll just have to wait and see.
@@josse0o0 i gotta agree with you on this one, it just seems a bit out of place for will to die because of many reasons. I personally think eleven dying with the upside down would be a great send off.
I think Steve might be like Glenn from TWD. His death is hinted at over the years and he escapes it multiple times but eventually the bill comes due
I think Jonathan and Murray are far and away the most likely to die.
I love both of them, but Murray is a “less important” character just by reason of him being introduced in season 2 and not having any familial ties to anyone else and Jonathan would arguably be the least devastating death out of of all three Byers, which I feel would be the biggest “main character” death the Duffers would be willing to have in the show.
As for other characters who have long been rumored to die, such as El and Steve, I kind of think they’ll survive just because The Duffers know that so many people don’t think they’ll survive season 5 and will want it to shock the audience
This was fun. I enjoyed it very much. I can't help but remember Vecna telling/showing Nancy that her mom, Holly, and Mike will RIP. I'm looking forward to Season 5 but I'm dreading it too.
THIS EXACT VIDOE IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN WANTING FOR SO LONG THANK YOUUU
Max speaking over the last seen 😂 “I don’t think we will ever see the upside down again, but hey, Stranger Things have happened” . Absolute cinema 🤩
Fun fact: Stranger things has already subverted the "bury the gays" trope. In the 80s, gay characters were usually killed off, often in a house shootout, and there was already a house shootout in stranger things season 4.
And instead of conforming to the bury the gays cliche, Will survived and literally ended up burying someone else (the officer who gave them the pen)
Therefore, if they were going to kill off Will, specifically for his situation with Mike, they probably would have already done so in this scene which was a clear subversion to the steriotype.
... That scene wasn't even a major sacrifice point. Will is still one of the main characters of the show, and they literally don't kill off ANY main characters in the 4 Seasons we've got. If they were to kill off 1 of them it'd be in a big sacrifice kind of way in the final season, not on some house shootout
Will's never getting shot dead, especially not in a random episode. Any dying on his part will be supernatural related and in the climax. Even then, the chances of this are so low, for me. Also I'm struggling to recall an 80's movie where gay character dies or gets killed in a shootout?
As some people have said my personel opinion on who is the least likely to survive is jonathen because I think it will be sort of poetic in a dark way for joyce to have been looking after will for such a long time and Jonathan dying or it can be joyce dying looking out for one of her sons wich will definitely hit right in the feels.
i personally think murray is (apart from vecna) most likely to die because he would make the usual secondary character death. it would affect hopper & joyce majorly, but it wouldn't be the biggest lost? it would be sad but i feel like he is going to go
plus the actor is very controversial
I think the Duffer's said they will only do meaningful deaths though. It's like prior to Endgame - everyone predicting Hawkeye, War Machine, Falcon to die... nope - it was actually the big three that got it.
If Steve, Robin, or Eleven bite the dust…. I won’t recover 😭😭😭
theres a leak of steve and robin in the epilogue so no but eleven and jonathan yikes
@@woahdizzySteve will for sure have a fake death this season but he is not ganna die I also can see Nancy and will having a high chance
There are no reports of Eleven and Murray filming epilogue scenes, so these two might not survive. The rest of the characters reportedly filmed a graduation scene, including Steve and Robin.
@@petrilio also Johnathan Nancy was not there same with Nancy idk for the epilogue reports lots of leakers have different rumors of who was there I think will might still die and they would need Noah schapp to be there for maybe the boys also having a memorial on set
Killing Eleven would be so messed up. After all the trauma she’s gone through, killing her would be awful. She deserves a happy ending.
The whole purpose of the show has been eleven dying or disappearing at the end since season 1. She is supposed to be this person who shows up and saves everyone then leaves at the end it wouldn’t make sense for her to lead on a normal life with powers after Hawkins is saved. She has seen too much and been thru too much to live life like normal. I could be wrong tho and they pull it off in a way that makes sense.
was literally thinking the other day this would be a great video idea from you :D
One thing I'm hoping they do this season is Eleven taking control of the mind flayer and using it against Vecna. One thing I love is when a villain. As despicable as Vecna gets a taste of their own medicine, and they experience all the horrors that they inflicted on the heroes. So if possible Eleven could strike vecna's mind with hallucinations. Or turn the upside down against him.
That would be BADASS, imagine her just levitating in the Upside down, controlling the shadow form of the Mind Flayer from the up and just wrecking giant rocks on Vecna as he desperately tries to run away. And imagine that scene being a literal parallel to the scene where Max is running away from Vecna 😳
no? Mind flayer is the main villian it's already confrimed by First shadow and Vr game
Killing Vecna won't stop anything he is just a puppet of Mind flayer
I think Max is safe from death. They made her the embodiment of trauma and depression last season so they could also make her into the embodiment of hope. With her character, they are sending the message that you are stronger than the bad things that happen to you. That you are not alone. That message is CENTRAL to this entire show. So, I don’t think they can kill the character that now embodies that sentiment. Not after Running up that hill.😢
honestly, this is exactly how I would put it! im scared for season five, but im also really excited! i just KNOW we're going to have a very devastating death for some BIG character in the show. I think the Duffers have been scared for all seasons leading up to this one killing off main characters, but I think they're going to do it this season. I can't wait!!!!! Love these videos!!
Lemme get this straight, if steve dies im gonna loose it fr 😭
I just can't imagine Steve's death it will be so sad for Dustin , nancy and the rest (and for me btw) anyway, they can't kill him cuz they already killed off Eddie he was like a big brother to Dustin, like Dustin was already heartbroken by Eddie's death I just can't imagine his death I will be flipping mentally broken 😭
I would be so surprised if Vecna makes it out alive. Solid list👌
Yeah nah Vecnas cooked
I mostly agree, especially with your view on Eleven + I think I heard somewhere Millie wouldn't want to be in sequels or spinoffs. I do however think Will will be alive and well. He is more traumatized than Dustin imo. He's been bullied, overlooked by friends, kidnapped, possessed, etc. And just for him to die, it'd be awful. And I really think the saddest part of Joyce possibly dying is Johnathon and Will being alone, they might have Hopper and their friends but to lose there mom would be devestating. Also a bit off topic but I'm 100% sure Max won't be awake at the beginning of episode one, maybe the end. But just to start with her awake would be ridiculous and undermine her ending season 4 in a coma.
Having a cup of damn fine coffee and remembering the legend David Lynch RIP. Your video is like warm cherry pie today my friend 🎉
Without spoilers and based on Nancy’s vision in season 4, I’d put all the wheelers in the up in the air category. Anyone she loves is in jeopardy. When you said subverting expectations it reminded me of Nancy being a Final Girl, your theory would be interesting…
Personal death ranking
Most
1. Vecna
2. Eleven
3. Will
4. Holly
5. Nancy
6. Murray
7. Karen
8. Jonathan
9. Steve
10. Max
11. Robin
12. Hopper
13. Joyce
14. Vickie
15. Mike
16. Dustin
17. Lucas
18. Erica
I'm going to say I think your ranking is spot on. I do agree that oneone's gonna be the one to sacrifice yourself to destroy Vecna and the upside down. I think it'll have the most emotional ending of the entire show. But yeah, it's really scary to think about what could happen with Max, considering she was central in season 4.
Controversial take: Mike dies and saves the group, while Eleven saves the world and loses her power.
You just nailed why I was so disappointed with Harry Potter. I wanted Harry to die with Voldemort. Not because I don’t love his character, but because it’s hella more cool to go out in a blaze of glory, taking out the bad guy. I hope they DO kill Eleven with Vecna. But I don’t trust that they have the nerve to do it.
karen under " should be safe " is wild. 😭
i think, will could sacrifice himself for holly and stay with vecna in the upside down, then el would come and save him and sacrifice herself for everyone and maybe after vecna being killed his victims/ the spirits would finally be free i bet it’d be so emotional visually so good for the show the characters seeing their love ones disappearing to the air
I think you have missed an early-season death of a character we had since S2. I (unfortunately) think Owens is going to die pretty early in S5.
The scenario is that they try to rescue him from the military because they need him because of all the knowledge he has over what all happened with the government program by Brenner. And I think during that rescue he will unfortunately die (through the military).
The reason behind that (and why it also is likely at the beginning of the season) is to establish the military as the second big thread to your characters
The Goat
Eleven is literally the only character I feel like would make sense to die in terms of her being the main character & sacrificing herself for everyone else
For me it's Mike who is going to die. He is connected to everyone, so it would be the sadest for the others. He is the heart of the crew.
And look, they are teens it's so unlikely that they stay friends forever. Without their heart it's easy to make a time jump and show that they sadly moved on without eachother.
Yes Mike wasn't really likebable in season 4 but they can turn him in the last season. It would be so hard for all of us who did him wrong in season 4. Nobody assumes him to die, so why shouldn't they kill him and surprise us.
Im still on the vecna 100% dying and I feel like it'll go down like eddie planned it in the season 4 game... and Erica ending it kinda like how harry potter had nevil longbottom with the final blow instead of harry.
After season 5 you should react to this tier list
Hopper never actually died tho. In season 3's post credits scene they mentioned the american prisoner. At the time we knew he was alive.
Not everyone did, it was just a subtle observation
Yea at the time everybody thought it was either hopper or brenner
It will be such that eleven has to be killed (or made dormant) to stop the upside down from affecting Hawkins.
And the gang has to almost "euthanize" eleven ?
Mike , obvs not being on board with the plan..kinda becomes a negative character.
But on seeing wills status, makes the decision and says goodbye to 11 and vecna.
At the end we might see 11 signaling Mike thru the upside down...but that would be a cliffhanger
Unfortunately some leaked pics spoiled some characters who survive. But my guess for whos most likely to die is Jonathan, just makes sense for his arc and will have great effect on joyce and Will. Only other option is Will or El but i think that would simply be too sad and unsatisfying.
He’s not gonna be the only death, he’s not main enough. Not the entire group would be effected, it’s gonna be el.
My top characters I think will die is El will Johnathan and Nancy I think it’s ganna be el and Nancy or el and Johnathan dying with will as a dark horse
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Completed my tier but I dropped X like a bad habit back in November so I'll just run it down here. Alive & Well: Erica, Mike, Dustin, Lucas, and Max (per my theory, the coma is preserving her body thanks to Eleven, she's still alive because Vecna survived S4). Should Be Safe: Joyce, Hopper, Mrs. Wheeler, Vickie, Robin. Up In The Air: Steve, Nancy, Jonathan, Murray (when it comes to Steve, the Duffers have faked us out before about his demise, only for him to survive so if we lose him, at least we all know now it will be a hero's death. Split down the middle about Jancy since they're both keen to run towards danger in the name of love). Not Looking Good: Holly Wheeler, Eleven (every season has given us a senseless or unfair end to an innocent or good-hearted character; S1 was Barb, S2 was Bob, S3 was Alexei, S4 was Chrissy. S5 may be sacrificing Holly, which would set up Mrs. Wheeler to play a much more pivotal role in the season). RIP: Will, Vecna (my mind isn't made up between Will and Eleven but I have a feeling that the plan will begin with Eleven taking the final bow, only for Will to sacrifice himself almost in the same fashion as his action at the end of the first campaign in S1 E1).
Good list bro.
But Dustin is toast. The gut punch bro as you said
That would be so messed up
@camiiiiii- i know, right?
I feel like him following in Eddie's footsteps is highly possible
@camiiiiii- i also think he's the one no one would ever expect to die! It would would crush me if he did. One of my favorite characters
I see el and will having a higher chance out of the kids I don’t see the other kids dying I feel like Lucas will have a happy ending when max recovers from the coma hope she does Mike is prolly ganna lose his mom so I don’t think they would kill of him I see his family members dying Dustin I don’t think so it won’t make sence to kill him off and would be messed up also his character is ganna deal with grief and loss it won’t make sence for him to die el and will make the most sence and most likely el
@samdidar8117 el and will are the most obvious. That's why I feel they will try to throw us with a death like Dustin. And to your point about it being messed up because he's dealing with the loss of eddie. I mean, look at all the stuff will and el have been through. I think they all deserve a happy ending, but el and will have been through the most
The main squad is gonna survive because we have leak pics of them all together with Joyce and others they were filming a graduation scene
That could easily be a a duffer fake out. Or a vecna mind trick scene
I do agree about Mike Lucas Dustin Joyce and hopper but will is up in the air I really think he has a big chance of dying and maybe in the graduation scene they will have a memorial of will
@@jag_8 I doubt Duffers will put so much effort to film fake scenes of Hopper and Joyce at Enzo's, and Max and Lucas at the movie theatre.
@@petrilio that's why I also said a vecna mind trick.
Will and El worry me cause they are both connected somehow to the Upside Down. It would be a plot twist to have one of the way younger kids die like Erica or Mike's little sister.
Karen was in Venca's vision for Nancy. I don't think that is a good things, but they don't kill any of the main characters so...who knows. I will say if they don't kill any or multiple of the main character the final season will be cheese. If they take out one of the main cast early then it's game on. Anything can happen and that part of great tv shows. No one should be safe.
I can see Eleven dying but really hope not. I want her to have a happy ending with her new family 😢 And seriously, don't give Hopper anymore heartache 💔
I could see Will dying, sacrificing himself for his friends maybe, as he always put his friends first amongst everything. I did think Jonathan or Steve, maybe Jonathan sacrificed for Will and/or Nancy. Now I've heard your explanation about Steve, I fear for him! Again, no more heartache for Dustin! 😢
Steve also ain’t goin no where…who else is gunna get Dustin ready for life post HS if they do some type of graduation or something?🥹😭 or better yet if Steve JOINS Dustin and go to Purdue???? That school was referenced in S3 sooooo who knows!👀
It would be so cool to see Verna vs the mind flayed
love the mike respect
The problem I’ve always had with the Will dying theory is that it would render season 1 a bit pointless.
Yeah I agree, it just feels a bit weird.
I agree with all of them, but i really think vickie is gonna die too, cause they introduced bob and killed him, they introduced billy and then killed him, then alexi and at last eddie, ST was too afraid to lose the og cast that they had to introduce characters just to kill them, so i think it is highly possible for vickie to die, maybe she gets a storyline where we establish a deep connection w her like billy and eddie
hopefully we get a teaser at the end of this month
I wont be same person ever again if Steve dies
I KNOW
Yall say Steve might die every season and he never bites the dust 😂 Trust me he will make it out this season.yall Steve fans having nothing to worry about
i hope you're right
Hopper, Joyce, Robin, Steve, or Eleven CAN NOT DIE
Eleven big chance but I don’t see the rest dying
i would say that if they killed murray, it would be similar to how they killed remus lupin in harry potter. lupin was used to add body count, but also had a large impact on the (marauders) fans. but i do not see the duffers killing main characters just to say they killed more people.
I think Lupin was killed off to signify Harry losing yet another father figure/family member in his life, and it completed the Marauders storyline. Murray, however is not as important of a character so another character would definitely have to be killed off in addition to him (if they kill Murray) to make it more impactful.
I agree with most of the list but where you put steve and el I think they should swap places also robin should be safe
I have the exact opposite take for eleven and Mike, I think they're gonna do it as eleven gets to live a life of freedom whereas Mike has had a full life until the show started. Mike sacrificing himself for eleven like a "knight in shining armor" fits the theme and story
Steve better not die this season brooo. every season bro has got whooped. S1 by Johnathan, S2 by Billy, S3 by the Russians, and Season 4 he almost got packed by bats like give my guy a break 😭 he’s my favorite character
Ye I feel like he is ganna have a fake death like I feel like that audio clip of someone yelling Steve run is ganna be his fake death I will say I think he might get chased by a demagorgon and when everyone thinks he got killed and eaten he comes back un hurt either no scratches and there ganna have a plot scene when he miracly survived
@ that would be tufff 🔥 I’m just so excited for this season to drop!! my top 3 shows I can’t wait for the new season are
1. Stranger things
2. invincible
3. Squid games
Don't want eleven to die 😢
I honestly think lucus might have a chance of dying because he will think he is the fault (if Max doesn't make it which I don't think will happen) and also will most likely sacrifice himself for Max! Also, think Murray will die which will affect a lot of those characters as he has always just been there he hasn't had a MAJOR act but maybe he will we won't know yet! Btw these are just theories I don't believe these ❤
Death Predictions:
Mike, Hopper, Joyce, Jonathan, Max (possibly Eleven) and Vecna.
I think we missed the part that some new character will be introduced and everyone will love them and they will get killed off in this season!
i personally think dustin will die, or has a high chance of dying cause in season three he says ‘if you die i die’ to steve and so i think rather like he will sacrifice himself if Steve is about to die, or they die together fighting vecna
I don't think Karen will be alright bc of the leaked pics with holly he's tryna get close to the wheelers to kill off their mam so they feel the heartache of losing someone. But LMK your opinion
Pregunta: ¿Mike va a sobrevivir?
PD: Mike es otro de mis personajes favoritos además de Eleven, Dustin y Joyce.
It looks like Stranger Things The First Shadow is coming to Broadway in March 2025.
Murray has been around since season 1, he was the conspiracy theorist in Hoppers Office
Actually since season 2
hoppers trauma with his past life is a bit worrying
We know that Steve and Dustin ain’t dying
I think at least one of the older kids would bite the dust in my opinion how likely are they to die:Jonathan,Steve,Nancy Robin with eleven/will dyig as well as vecna and maybe murray
And I would love to see Hopper,Steve and Dustin being allive Steve either being with Nancy or at least being allive
I don’t see them killing 5 mains imma ganna say like 2 mains prolly eleven or Johnathan and if they don’t die will and Nancy as dark horses with I also think Murray is ganna die but I don’t consider him a main tho
HOT TAKE: I dont want ANY of them main cast to die. I dont need the BS death of someone I case about to motivate me. It will only piss me off. It will take away my enjoyment of the final season.
Everyone speculated who in GUARDIANS 3 would die and lo and behold, none of them died and the movie was AMAZING and I got to see a wonderful character arch for everyone. Because I didn't need a death to appreciate there are risks or to know what's at stake. I've had 4 seasons to get that. I'm already bought in.
Frankly I'm sick and tired of the blood just. It's why I didn't love Game of Thrones as much as many others. The return on my investment into a character shouldn't be to watch them die, even if they die a hero. That's, in the end, just a bummer. There's plenty of Death already. So many have died it's impossible to keep count.
Let our heroes live.
Hopper and Joyce WILL have their date at Enzo’s! Pin this comment Chris…you heard it here first
The DUFFER Bros said it started with the original 4, it’ll end with them. So the original 4 aren’t dying (Mike, Will, Lucus, Dustin) will live. Others could die.
Eleven will most likely die. Unless, after everything, somehow her powers are completely taken away from her to live a semi-normal, happy life. That's the only way I can see her surviving S5. Keeping her alive with her powers just seems silly to me. I don't see Will ending up dying, considering the first 2 seasons were about saving him. All of that will be rendered useless just for them to kill him off at the end. My guesses are, Eleven, Vecna, Steve or Jonathan, and possibly Murray.
I really don't the get the Mike S4 hate. The guy got on a plane to go see his friends, who were both then being weird with him. Me, I'd be so annoyed! And yet he's always the first to apologise/break-the-ice and make people feel better even though he's not in the wrong. I get he's the leader of the group and always looked after everyone - but jeez, every other character's shortcomings get completely overlooked.
Least safe will most safe Dustin 1:03
I actually don’t agree with the positioning of Mike bc he’s connected the most to eleven and will who are two people very likely to die, and with him already sacrificing himself for Dustin in season 1, I can see him doing something similar in season 5, or vecna directly targeting him bc of how close he is to eleven and will.
I disagree on Dustin. Out of the the four original boys he’s the most likely to die in my opinion. I think he’s a fan favorite and he never had a fakeout and never had his own self sacrifice moment which he should definitely get this time. I think his death could echo Eddies
characters I think are definitely safe are Dustin, Mike, Lucas, Erika, Joyce, Robin, and Vickie
characters I'm 75% sure are going to live: Hopper, Jonathan, Nancy
characters I'm 50/50 on: Karen, Murray, Max
characters I'm 75% sure are going to die: Will, Steve, Holly
characters that are definitely going to die: Eleven, Vecna
Oh!! So Dustin dying would be too cruel but having the boy who got kidnapped, bullied, starved, abused and more as well as be hate crimed for being gay and potentially have the boy he likes/loves be not into him. He got possessed and had Vecna visions/mind flayer visions at 12/13. He had to send people to their deaths against his will and has to face homophobia from his best friend. As well as watch the man he likes/loves be in a relationship with his sister. His dad divorced his mom and treated him like crap and I can go on if you’d like.
Point is it’s fucking stupid to say that it would be cruel for Dustin to die but not Will??
Yeah it’s because he’s the gay one right?
Utterly disgusting.
The point was that Dustin lost Eddie, so it would be cruel if they killed him right after that. With Will, it's possible that he dies because he's somehow connected to the upside down and everything. Its so annoying to see you crying "its because he is gay" or something, nobody cares about that.
I feel like jonathan is nailed on , joyce has focussed on will for years so to lose jonathan would be a massive death. I feel like its up in the air with ell i can see arguments for both sides, murray i think will die too as hes not as important as the others
I think vecna is gonna kill hopper and that will give El enough anger and sadness (the duo emotions of power) to kill vecna and I think El will die killing vecna, saving her friends, but that’s just my theory
Same can happen if mike dies
Instead of someone dying I can see in the finale fight vecna knocks el down and vecna goes to kill mike but el get the courage and strength to get back up and you her full power to save mike and then gets into another big fight against vecna and ultimately sacrifices herself to destroy the upside down and vecna
What if they kill Lucas and one of Erica’s final scenes is her sitting next to her brother’s tombstone while she reads him a story 😭
I deffinetly don’t agree with will dying, it wouldn’t make sense, I know a lot of people are saying “oh, he’s connected to the upside down so he has to die” not really, imagine you survive a crazy incident and go through years of trauma to just end up dead from the same thing, it would just be kinda pointless. Also he’s been in love with Mike for like the whole show, I don’t think they would just kill him off without them having a happy ending, I know a lot of people hate him just because he’s gay and in love with Mike (because of mileven 😒) but it tires me that they don’t understand that sometimes it just is that way, not all couples turn out perfect, this is not a romcom. Anyways I hope that they don’t kill him off not only because he’s an amazing character but also because of the plot.
What about 8?
I think that Mike is going to die. Think about it, he was labeled "the heart" of the group in season 4. Vecna will kill Mike in front of El, and that will make El's powers stronger. She will injure Vecna, and then the rest of the group will have to navigate without Mike. Also, El would harness her anger driven by Mike's death, and destroy Vecna, as well as the entire upside down, and by extension, Will. El will also die because she would have over used her powers, and she would die in the upside down, clutching Mike's hand.
This is just my Theory.
Eleven and Robin.. my guess
Anybody else have a huge theory on Nancy dying? Like I just see it.
Honestly I think she should have died in season 3 from the hospital monster, I mean it's quite considerable when you realize she wasn't that great of a character in season 3, and she was kinda irrelevant in the first half of season 4. Sure she was a great character in chapter 7 through 9 but I think it would have put more depth killing such an unexpected character halfway through the series. It'd also be good to give Mike more emotion as a cherry on top from that, considering he's kind of unthoughtful. Followed by giving Holly a reason for PTSD to be able to be targeted by vecna. I also think it could expand Robin and Steve's arc in season 4, they were left quite untouched in season 4. Also gives opporturnities for Jonathan to remark on his past and realize what he could've done more for Nancy.
So basically yeah I have a bit of a theory on it
@@2yan0aye Nancy was not really spotted in the end or epilogue I think Steve will have another fake death this season but will survive I don’t really see Robin dying it would be Boring to kill of another newer character so Éthier between Nancy and Johnathan makes sence I think the love triangle will get broken
@samdidar8117 Absolutely agreed
@ ye people keep saying they were spotted in The epilogue but they never were
I honestly disagree I don't think Dustin is 100% in the clear yes it would be insanely difficult to watch but just imagine Dustin sacrificing himself for Steve the man he looks up to because he couldn't save Eddie. And I genuinely think it would be way more cruel to kill Steve than Dustin just because you would be taking another person he looks up to away
If anyone dies it is definitely eleven. She probably dies while killing vecna. They both die for sure..
I hope Steve will live
Why? He’s utterly trash
I feel like Eleven is going to die
Eleven will sacrifice herself to save the others im calling it now
Will, Steve and Eleven might bite the dust.
I think El, Mike, Nancy, Joyce/Steve/Johnathan these characters are gonna die
Season 5 is Endgame.
What if Mike ends up like Max in S5?
I want Karen to play a big role in season 5 Alice creel would be a good plot and by the end of the season when we’re all attached she does lots of people want people to survive but I want a lot of death and heartbreak for the final season for the best experience
I really don’t think Will should die, it wouldn’t make sense for the story to have him die but none of the other kids die. I expect some deaths in S5, but I am hoping it’s not any of the main 4 og kids
character most likely to die
1-vecna
2-eleven
3-karen
4-jonathan
5-murray
why murray or karen
I would also add Nancy and will to the list but overall dub
Nancy and Max and Steve CANNOT DIE
We know steve and dustin dont die there is press photos of them meeting at dustins college we know that max is alive because max and lucas go to the movies at the end we know that joyce and hopper are alive because they have a date at enzos the only characters i think that are 100%, gonna die are eleven and will cus we do not see anything from them mabye for spoiler reasons but i doubt they survive