14:33 We are on the initial phase of the tech cycle: they are giving users a great product, at the cost of their margins. Maybe even at a loss. Once they defeat their enemy (search engines?) the enshittification will begin
On incentive predicting output: the incentive beneath time on site that is driving all of this is the sociopathic corporate drive towards increasing shareholder profit. this is an incentive legally bound by law. so social media needs to either be a public utility or there needs to be a legal requirement for something like triple bottom line reporting so that corporate profit is not the highest priority at the cost of everything else.
Thank you, thank you and thank you. So much of the world ... runs around not realizing they are walking around being used as advertising fodder. Seeing people actually connecting, not staring into these screens needs would make us feel human again. A latency tax on social platforms would be amazing.
Instagram screentime feature is not working properly. They are not counting the time spent properly because they designed Instagram to go in and out sporadically so that 15min minutes spent on the app only vs 15mins plus in between time.
It seems that the issues raised by AI and social media need to be fit into the larger trends of modern life. That means looking at the tendencies within technological societies that have been accelerating recently but have been present for a long time. From the human development angle, I think that Gabor Mate's The Myth of Normal (2022) provides a good overview that sees the problem originating at one level in cultural attitudes toward childhood itself and the accompanying social institutions. At another level the issue is capitalism and its contributions to greater alienation, breakdown of community, ecological damage, and other ills.
Maybe AI sells you a product, but that product is your own potential with AI, and AI has the turn by turn directions to get there if only you follow. This leads to a very highly competitive society of stellar performers with AI maximizing time, resources and effort, also supplementing ideas and prompting executive function. Essentially AI vs AI with human embodiments. This will definitely come with some drawbacks.
Great talk. One correction, the AI model that was trained to play StarCraft 2, is NOWHERE NEAR the top pro humans. This will be the last frontier, as SC2 is by far the hardest, most complex, and with the highest skill ceiling of any strategy game in human history (things like Chess and Go are a joke in comparison in terms of difficulty and complexity, they are not even real-time, and they are complete information games making them far less complex and far easier for AI models).
The marshmallow analogy is fine, but when you keep leaning on those terms, they cease to hold the meaning they're meant to convey....a little pedagogical tip for you.
The idea to post some affirmation every so often on social media is the worst idea . People aren't that stupid...they know it's a meaningless computer-generated platitude with no real person behind it...man, I can't tell you how much I despise that idea...it's useless garbage that pretends it's doing something. Its even less effective than those surgeon general warning on a pack of cigarettes. And the built in latency is almost as dumb...I guess it has a micro-effect, but c'mon
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8 minutes and already worth a thumbs up. Tristan Harris is such a voice of clarity in these times of rapid change.
Protect Tristan at all costs!!!!
Great content, thanks for sharing and posting 😊
14:33 We are on the initial phase of the tech cycle: they are giving users a great product, at the cost of their margins. Maybe even at a loss. Once they defeat their enemy (search engines?) the enshittification will begin
THANK YOU!!! ❤❤❤
On incentive predicting output: the incentive beneath time on site that is driving all of this is the sociopathic corporate drive towards increasing shareholder profit. this is an incentive legally bound by law. so social media needs to either be a public utility or there needs to be a legal requirement for something like triple bottom line reporting so that corporate profit is not the highest priority at the cost of everything else.
Thank you, thank you and thank you. So much of the world ... runs around not realizing they are walking around being used as advertising fodder. Seeing people actually connecting, not staring into these screens needs would make us feel human again. A latency tax on social platforms would be amazing.
Important conversation, happy to see public conversation like this. Yesterday I deleted Instagram, there is just no way of hiding provoking females..
Just remember, you are the product.
Infinite gratitude ❤ let's remain a 2 marshmallow species 😊
Instagram screentime feature is not working properly. They are not counting the time spent properly because they designed Instagram to go in and out sporadically so that 15min minutes spent on the app only vs 15mins plus in between time.
It seems that the issues raised by AI and social media need to be fit into the larger trends of modern life. That means looking at the tendencies within technological societies that have been accelerating recently but have been present for a long time. From the human development angle, I think that Gabor Mate's The Myth of Normal (2022) provides a good overview that sees the problem originating at one level in cultural attitudes toward childhood itself and the accompanying social institutions. At another level the issue is capitalism and its contributions to greater alienation, breakdown of community, ecological damage, and other ills.
Maybe AI sells you a product, but that product is your own potential with AI, and AI has the turn by turn directions to get there if only you follow. This leads to a very highly competitive society of stellar performers with AI maximizing time, resources and effort, also supplementing ideas and prompting executive function. Essentially AI vs AI with human embodiments. This will definitely come with some drawbacks.
Great talk.
One correction, the AI model that was trained to play StarCraft 2, is NOWHERE NEAR the top pro humans.
This will be the last frontier, as SC2 is by far the hardest, most complex, and with the highest skill ceiling of any strategy game in human history (things like Chess and Go are a joke in comparison in terms of difficulty and complexity, they are not even real-time, and they are complete information games making them far less complex and far easier for AI models).
They both have the same speech impairment?
The marshmallow analogy is fine, but when you keep leaning on those terms, they cease to hold the meaning they're meant to convey....a little pedagogical tip for you.
It actually help the listener to internalize the concept. A very effettive comm strategie indeed.
The idea to post some affirmation every so often on social media is the worst idea . People aren't that stupid...they know it's a meaningless computer-generated platitude with no real person behind it...man, I can't tell you how much I despise that idea...it's useless garbage that pretends it's doing something. Its even less effective than those surgeon general warning on a pack of cigarettes. And the built in latency is almost as dumb...I guess it has a micro-effect, but c'mon
Have you ever tried to fall asleep in a tent with a mosquito? Micro-effects can be more powerful thank we think.
12,000 people watched this...the rest are on cat videos.
Host needs to watch the mindless chuckling at inopportune moments.
The NotebookLM/Hagen is not optimized yet.
Sounds weird. Could they focus on technology?
He’s just talking about his values but not saying anything. Hope and Joy word salad
Is that a bad thing?
I don't like this guy at all.
Interviewer doesn't have to echo "yeah" and "okay" multiple times per Tristan's sentence 🫡 great talk
Rich people + spiritual "awakening", meditation etc = my blood boiling
You should try meditating weirdo
Is that only for poor people?