"Life Will Get Weird The Next 3 Years!" - Future of AI, Humanity & Utopia vs Dystopia | Nick Bostrom

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  • Опубликовано: 27 окт 2024

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  • @TomBilyeu
    @TomBilyeu  2 месяца назад +60

    WARNING: I will never ask for your contact info in the comments section, that is someone impersonating me!

    • @ADRIFTHIPHOP
      @ADRIFTHIPHOP 2 месяца назад

      at 10:30 you spoke about something that seems applicable to the choices you have made about this channel...... why does this channel matter? are you adding valuable energy to humanity or are these click baiter yaps perpetuating the fear machine. It used to be really good, now it is a draining spiritually harmful negative slush pump frickin fear mongering click baiting monkey train, a Spiderman meme in a house of mirrors. I used to actually believe you wanted to help people now its just another one of those....disappointed in the changes sir

    • @scotchbarrel4429
      @scotchbarrel4429 2 месяца назад +2

      Tom mate, its time to lay off the caffeine, all this scaremongering is not good for your health 😂

    • @obitooftheworld6761
      @obitooftheworld6761 2 месяца назад +3

      Hey Tom, but you contacted me a week ago with that great opportunity

    • @BennyLC79
      @BennyLC79 2 месяца назад

      Since the 💉 everything changed

    • @bobweatababyitzaboi
      @bobweatababyitzaboi 2 месяца назад

      😊

  • @veganandlovingit
    @veganandlovingit 2 месяца назад +246

    my life is already weird

    • @Dominicano809_
      @Dominicano809_ 2 месяца назад +11

      Mine as well

    • @MG-iu2nn
      @MG-iu2nn 2 месяца назад +1

      Keep in mind to focus on the clit. 😁❤️

    • @dougg1976
      @dougg1976 2 месяца назад +13

      Ditto

    • @henrythegreatamerican8136
      @henrythegreatamerican8136 2 месяца назад +9

      No weirder than RFK salivating over a bear cub he scraped off the street

    • @drSamovar
      @drSamovar 2 месяца назад +3

      ikr?....

  • @LostToPixels
    @LostToPixels 2 месяца назад +33

    OK, I'm fine with some people that just NEED to have challenging work or 'purpose', but I myself never felt the need to chase these goals or fulfilments. I have many hobbies and interests like reading books, watching movies, playing video games etc. and if I never had to work again a day in my life from tomorrow I would still have VERY fulfilled life and still lack at least a few hours a day for doing everything I'd like to do that day...

    • @snowflakemelter7171
      @snowflakemelter7171 2 месяца назад +3

      Yes but people need resources i.e. money to do things like that.

    • @flickwtchr
      @flickwtchr 2 месяца назад

      I think it is so sad that so many people are buying the absolute snake oil that the AI revolution is going to deliver to the masses a life of abundance free of work. It is just mind numbing Utopian nonsense.

    • @davidbuderim2395
      @davidbuderim2395 2 месяца назад +3

      Agreed. 168 hrs per week, about 70hrs per week for sleep/body maintenance, about 50hrs per week for work(including some travel time) leaves about 50 hrs per week for leisure. Plus annual leave.
      I mostly enjoyed work, but I lived for my outside interests - and I had plenty of time for them even working full time. Retired at 50 - 20 years ago - living the dream.

  • @ampdev3270
    @ampdev3270 Месяц назад +34

    I will never buy harribo gummies because of that loud advertisement in the middle of this video. there you go algorithm, read this.

    • @lilchef2930
      @lilchef2930 Месяц назад

      Boycotting!!

    • @soichirohonda267
      @soichirohonda267 Месяц назад

      Don't buy it because it is very unhealthly in the first place!

    • @FlorinGN
      @FlorinGN 27 дней назад

      You're already thinking about harribo! You have been infected!!!

    • @petrkinkal1509
      @petrkinkal1509 20 дней назад +1

      @@FlorinGN If he never buys them and would buy them otherwise (or at least buys less) that is still net negative for the company.

    • @FlorinGN
      @FlorinGN 20 дней назад

      @@petrkinkal1509 I think Haribo should be sold in limited edition. One bag per person per year. It's garbaage

  • @leoniebachmann2677
    @leoniebachmann2677 2 месяца назад +126

    If you live in the UK the end of humanity has already started.

    • @MG-iu2nn
      @MG-iu2nn 2 месяца назад +7

      Turkey will give shelter to new refugees. 🙏❤

    • @steve.k4735
      @steve.k4735 2 месяца назад +1

      I do it hasn`t .. no revolt has ever succeeded in History unless the Army and Police either themselves revolt or at minimum step aside France 1789 the King does not call the army in Russia 1917 the army in St Petersburg itself revolt's, which is why Hitlers Beer Hall Putsch 1934 fails the police / army suppress his attempt .. so far the state has only used the lightest touch of police armed with sticks and plastic shields, you really push and firearms will start being used and many people will die, its not good but we are a long way from any `end`

    • @arandmorgan
      @arandmorgan 2 месяца назад +3

      I live in the UK, I don't care. As long as humanity survives as a whole.

    • @dreamstate5047
      @dreamstate5047 2 месяца назад

      🙁🤍🫂

    • @abbynormal7389
      @abbynormal7389 2 месяца назад +8

      UK is a good example of a Slippery Slope re: immigration ❤

  • @ElectricEric2030
    @ElectricEric2030 2 месяца назад +62

    00:46 🛡 The Future of AI & Society
    03:42 📚 Defining Utopia
    05:49 🤔 The Value of Human Life in a Solved World
    09:33 🤖 The Pursuit of Happiness & Purpose
    11:02 🛡 The Importance of Purposeful Striving
    14:42 💼 The Impact of Utopia on Human Nature
    19:05 🤖 The Potential of AI in the Next 3-5 Years
    20:46 🛡 The Probabilistic View of AI's Future
    23:03 ⚠ The Singularity & Intelligence Explosion
    28:08 🤖 Adapting to the Future of AI
    31:16 🛡 The Uncertainty of the Future & the Need for Short-Term Strategies
    33:04 📊 The Potential for a Post-Human Future
    36:43 🚀 Trajectories & the Future of AI Development
    41:44 🌪 The Bifurcation of Humanity & the Rise of AI
    43:11 🚀 The Impact of AI on Society & the Potential for Polarization
    46:26 🚀 The Impact of AI on Society & Humanity
    51:03 🤖 The Potential for Dystopia & Utopia
    53:25 📚 The Impact of AI on Culture & Society
    56:09 🚀 Automation & Job Displacement
    1:00:02 🚀 Economic Growth & Utopia
    1:00:21 🚀 Medical Breakthroughs & Human Upgrades
    1:04:07 🚀 Neurotechnology & Utopia
    1:05:30 🚀 The Possibility of Simulated Reality & the Future of Humanity
    1:09:11 🏆 The Importance of Purpose & Meaning in a Technologically Advanced World
    1:12:24 🤖 The Ethics of Artificial Intelligence & Consciousness
    1:14:05 🤖 Moral Status of AI & Animals
    1:17:12 🛡 The Simulation Hypothesis & Moral Obligations
    1:19:02 📚 AI & Creativity
    1:21:19 📝 The Ethics of AI & Data Sharing
    1:23:14 🤖 The Human Condition & the Fear of Consequences
    1:24:34 💡 The Concerns of Ilia Setk & the Need for AI Safety
    1:25:29 💡 The Need for Alignment & the Value of Values

    • @RykGood
      @RykGood 2 месяца назад +2

      I really hope you used AI to create this. It would definitely be befitting.

    • @Gallowglass7
      @Gallowglass7 2 месяца назад +3

      @@RykGood He did

  • @flickwtchr
    @flickwtchr 2 месяца назад +152

    Tom can't comprehend that there are humans who have lived fulfilling lives outside of the hustle entrepreneur culture. Especially for those living in countries that have a sane society with healthcare available to most citizens, affordable housing, etc. Yes such places have existed, and still exist on this Earth. But the libertarian and neoliberal austerity pushers are determined to turn those countries into something that resembles what has become historic inequality in the US where the 1% wrings every last drop of money from everyone else, no matter how much misery it causes the masses.

    • @constantineskourlis6551
      @constantineskourlis6551 2 месяца назад +12

      spot on

    • @davidtyer2373
      @davidtyer2373 2 месяца назад +3

      Wow you nailed a deep idea that I agree with to an extent. However, unless you are simply taking potshots at the competitive male culture, let's not forget that in cases and places where the fulfilled humans live, they DO depend on some level of interaction with society, and can't just be the elves in Tolkien leaving middle earth...dare I say also that this might be why Tolkien wrote the elves (or at least Peter Jackson interpreted) as having that inner social conflict regarding their allegiance to the corrupt world of men. Although I look up to the competitive world of men who derive their purposes from taking a wife and pushing their DNA into the next generation based on competing on any level society will tell them is the requirement for measuring up, I personally am interested in competing only with myself, and for this reason, I will have no problem finding purpose in a post jobs world, assuming I survive the unstable times to get there. Importantly, I'm not against the male competition, as I am concerned that without them the human species goes too soft in the long run. I can only hope that prepping culture will provide the barter systems and other localized systems that will enable the competitive males to continue to find purpose and meaning as we move further into the abyss we find ourselves sinking in now. Imo, a great hope of mine is that the military of the medium far future can enable society to re-coalesce around learning purpose through discipline that focuses on personal improvement no matter how good we are relative to the giga-masses of future human societies. That the military isn't fundamentally tied to being focused on growth based profit systems, gives me particular hope, much as in how Starfleet works in Star Trek. In sum, I sometimes wonder if Roddenberry didn't get some ideas from advanced aliens that may be treating us with their own prime directive currently.

    • @davidtyer2373
      @davidtyer2373 2 месяца назад

      I see that my first reply muddies the exception I took to your core criticism, which seems to be aimed at the 1 percenters. I do agree that certain systems they've put in place have been like funnels, and those funnels have drastically narrowed in recent decades. However, as Nate Hagins(sp?) channel points out about his "great simplification" our problems are not going to go away simply by revolting against the 1%. He is right that although Elon says and thinks a lot of great things, the idea that the earth can support 80 billion people is not one of them. I understand that Elon is in part trying to overcorrect for the current population collapse situation...yes people should have kids...imo people will have kids again when society enables them not to be liabilities, or else we devolve into a dog eat dog world, probably due to Nate's "Mordor economy" concept. Hopefully this clarifies my difference relative to your position.

    • @HedgeFundCIO
      @HedgeFundCIO 2 месяца назад

      Those countries f@cking suck.

    • @cliffvandersluis1112
      @cliffvandersluis1112 2 месяца назад

      Interesting that you lump libertarians with neoliberal and the 1%? You do realize that those are one and the same in the context that I assume your using here right? What do you believe libertarians are about?

  • @gubzs
    @gubzs 2 месяца назад +15

    48:53 "The only hope we have, and this is ultra dystopian, is that people just try to remain distracted by entertainment and don't care that their lives aren't getting better."
    Tom that's already the world we live in. The vast majority of people live that way right now.

    • @Nature_Consciousness
      @Nature_Consciousness Месяц назад +1

      Currently not to the extreme he is saying.

    • @ALavin-en1kr
      @ALavin-en1kr Месяц назад

      @@Nature_ConsciousnessTrans humanism is now being brought up by atheists and we thought communism was bad enough. Religion will push back. No way is the human brain going to be embedded with technology. Physical evolution is always being referred to by materials but they have little to say about psychic evolution; religion has that covered in the evolution of human consciousness. Consciousness is the so-called ‘hard problem’ for philosophers who are atheists.

  • @frankwhite1816
    @frankwhite1816 2 месяца назад +41

    There is more to life than business and goal achievement, Tom. Believe it or not. Many things can bring people meaning and joy. Try growing a garden, reading a book, walking at sunset, cooking a great meal with friends and family, or just singing a song? Your worldview is so hyper-goal-oriented. It's made you very successful and kudos, no doubt, but what are you missing? As regards AI - narrow AI could be great for human civilization as regards relieving the burden of labor but AGI or ASI is not recommended. Too many unknowns.

    • @maggo9494
      @maggo9494 2 месяца назад +2

      And the only reason you can afford such a simple mindset is because there were a lot of driven people like Tom who build the world you are living in. If everyone would think like yourself, nobody could afford these luxuries.
      Its fine to have these priorities but be sure to remember that the ONLY reason you can afford to have them is because many other hard working people laid the groundwork.

    • @robdoubleyou4918
      @robdoubleyou4918 2 месяца назад +3

      I’d have to agree. So much effort in our society (education, Calvinist work ethic teaching, parental and societal expectations) goes to turning children into productive workers.
      One could imagine a future where different goals are instilled. Perhaps the goal of making others happy through your efforts instead of bread-winning money competition.

    • @nickidaisydandelion4044
      @nickidaisydandelion4044 2 месяца назад

      Oh I'm so glad to see all of you light workers and Indigos coming into the discussion this gives me hope.

    • @Nanohamage
      @Nanohamage 2 месяца назад +4

      @@maggo9494 the people you talk about are nothing like tom they are people who are drowning in debt or coming from rly poor background having to work all day every day those are the people that maintain your society and "nice things" you afford

    • @EmeraldView
      @EmeraldView Месяц назад +1

      Yes Tom is hyperfocused on the things that have destroyed this world and the future of humanity. Kudos to him and for helping other people to be misfocused and working to destroy the world.

  • @frankwhite1816
    @frankwhite1816 2 месяца назад +16

    Love Bostrom! So intelligent and calm. Thanks for having him on! Mahalo!

    • @FamilyYoutubeTV-x6d
      @FamilyYoutubeTV-x6d Месяц назад

      why is calm good necessarily? I feel like this perpetuates certain biases (meek and mild-mannered people only in AI, which probably relates to the dystopia they are creating)

  • @theagileadventure5029
    @theagileadventure5029 Месяц назад +6

    This might be my favorite interview Tom has done to date. He’s speechless.

  • @jessethompson4019
    @jessethompson4019 2 месяца назад +8

    I find it odd how purpose and meaning will be affected negatively, there will be plenty of projects that everyone could choose to partake in like planet creations to things like art or have a mixture of leisure or just have leisure, whatever is wanted, I can't see purpose and meaning being lost when there is so much to explore and accomplish with the restraint of survival being lifted by ai

  • @johnbuckner2828
    @johnbuckner2828 2 месяца назад +27

    He needs an AI generated beach scene on his green screen. And he should wear a Hawaiian shirt.

  • @naturalyogi
    @naturalyogi 2 месяца назад +28

    That thumbnail and title are so inspirational and not click baity at all. I feel so uplifted right now. Next I am going to watch a video about Panamanian foot fungus to really start the day right.

    • @egyptianhebrew91
      @egyptianhebrew91 2 месяца назад +2

      @@naturalyogi my thoughts also, I was thinking I might have learned something. The 5 ads and many commercials were better.

  • @TuringTestFiction
    @TuringTestFiction 2 месяца назад +4

    Great interview. I really like how Bostrom carefully thinks through possibilities that most people unfortunately dismiss as ridiculous.

  • @thejunglejag
    @thejunglejag 2 месяца назад +3

    Usually I feel rather alone with my reflections about the future. It is refreshing to listen to intelligent people exchanging about these topics. It makes me feel like perhaps I am not crazy (not sure if that is fortunate or not, though).
    Watching a one hour video (I speed up a little) isn’t always a waste of time. Thanks for this, you both have done something useful. And that is not nothing whilst there is still room for purpose and meaning.

  • @zando5108
    @zando5108 2 месяца назад +3

    This guy is living my personal idea of a perfect life - just thinking writing speculating all the crazy outcomes and consequences of future scenarios for a living!

  • @anthonyfongo5697
    @anthonyfongo5697 2 месяца назад +13

    Tom is the Temu of podcasters.

    • @floatingchimney
      @floatingchimney 2 месяца назад

      Mommy I want Joe Rogan podcast.
      We have Joe Rogan at home.
      Joe Rogan at home.

    • @VOORHEES27
      @VOORHEES27 Месяц назад

      Lol

  • @ch1m1ch0nga
    @ch1m1ch0nga 15 дней назад +2

    I love that Tom just asks the DUMBEST questions of some of our brightest minds (like he's a 9th grader). It's a great way to get at the truth(s).
    Semper Fi

  • @OlSCrabs
    @OlSCrabs Месяц назад +6

    We already live in what would have been considered a sci-fi dystopia, even just 20 years ago.

  • @futurehistory2110
    @futurehistory2110 2 месяца назад +3

    I guess when you consider how much the world changed between the late 1800s and mid-1900s (i.e. the rise of cinema, radio, cars, TV, airplanes and eventually space travel), it's not surprising that we too will live through extraordinary changes. That said, AI will likely be a bigger change than anything yet.

    • @novusrex9809
      @novusrex9809 Месяц назад

      You think 2020,s-2100,s will see greater advance then 1880,s to 1960,s?

  • @lostinbravado
    @lostinbravado 2 месяца назад +14

    Remember, the universe is the limit. Not just the Earth. We live in a bigger forest than just this one planet.

    • @nickidaisydandelion4044
      @nickidaisydandelion4044 2 месяца назад

      Only the few people like yourself who recognize this fact are free from the shackles of society.

    • @TheMrCougarful
      @TheMrCougarful 2 месяца назад +1

      No, we do not.

    • @thegringoscottproductions1699
      @thegringoscottproductions1699 2 месяца назад

      There will also be limitations to the machines. We can make games and play there.

    • @EmeraldView
      @EmeraldView Месяц назад

      What makes you so sure?

    • @lostinbravado
      @lostinbravado Месяц назад

      @@EmeraldView it's a shame we're still so primitive it's not considered madness to ask if we're sure we live in a universe.

  • @HaikesXO
    @HaikesXO 2 месяца назад +8

    The irony is we’re currently struggling with the problem their predicted in the future

  • @tufailsmusings1877
    @tufailsmusings1877 21 день назад

    The discussion was truly insightful, offering lots of information and new perspectives. Tom's interviewing skills and ability to get to the heart of the topic are always impressive to me.

  • @SKGFindings
    @SKGFindings 2 месяца назад +6

    Someone on TV has only to say, ‘Alexa,’ and she lights up. She’s always ready for action, the perfect woman, never says, ‘Not tonight, dear.

    • @mbratchie1
      @mbratchie1 2 месяца назад

      Alexa, make me a sandwich. 💀

    • @albertlevins9191
      @albertlevins9191 2 месяца назад +1

      Funny, but gross.
      She will be more enticing in the future.
      Always ready. Yeah. 👍

  • @scottk1525
    @scottk1525 2 месяца назад +57

    Why is literally every video on this channel about how the world is ending?

    • @EsotericDichotomy
      @EsotericDichotomy 2 месяца назад +11

      It gets clicks!!
      These topics interest lots of people!

    • @ourdan14
      @ourdan14 2 месяца назад +16

      Because most people live in fear so it attracts them because they see only dangers in future rather than possibilities

    • @TheAncientOneOfDays
      @TheAncientOneOfDays 2 месяца назад +5

      Because, these droids are testing out how we react to watching biomachines talk

    • @scottk1525
      @scottk1525 2 месяца назад +9

      @@EsotericDichotomy I get that, but this channel used to be about improving oneself. Now it's just panic porn. Kind of a drastic change of niche there.

    • @thinktwice888-p4d
      @thinktwice888-p4d 2 месяца назад +3

      @@scottk1525 - tom mentioned in one of his recent clips that he was shelving the mindset narrative and going hard right into being the change that’s critical to offset the hard left train. I agree, it does seem that he’s gone full audience capture given the hockey stick rise in subs/clicks.

  • @spocksdaughter9641
    @spocksdaughter9641 2 месяца назад +1

    TOM appreciated you focused on good questions and Let him talk! Aware of his name but never heard him speak. Thank you. We need to hear lots of voices

  • @stephenwalters4687
    @stephenwalters4687 2 месяца назад +12

    If you pay attention, the AI algorithm will show your Self, who you are.

    • @ninobrown9564
      @ninobrown9564 2 месяца назад +2

      Yea its definitely either reading my mind or it's already a part of me

    • @VOORHEES27
      @VOORHEES27 Месяц назад

      Not the youtube algorithm. It's a left wing indoctrination maximizer

  • @josephsmith9130
    @josephsmith9130 2 месяца назад +3

    Subject: The human condition. Through the course of human history, humanity has made advancements in inventions and technology. However the human condition of greed, corruption, violence and power seeking continues.
    Humanity needs to seek a high level.

  • @johnbarryyallagher1128
    @johnbarryyallagher1128 2 месяца назад +3

    If we cant even help people with universal health care in this period of technology, then what makes you think Ai can be universally applied to the whole population.

  • @beng4647
    @beng4647 2 месяца назад +6

    Rich people have no idea how weird it gets

  • @Blate1
    @Blate1 2 месяца назад +5

    I can’t decide if I’m disappointed or relieved that Nick Bostrom has never heard of Isekai

    • @denjamin2633
      @denjamin2633 2 месяца назад +3

      It was a weird sentence that I was not prepared for, even though he had been obliquely explaining full dive vr for like 20 minutes by that point.

  • @aleksandar7393
    @aleksandar7393 2 месяца назад +2

    6:28 Issue with wording "human redundancy" (that implies that we are our work and contribution trough work which is extremely terrible way to look at ourselves) instead we should say "human work redundancy" implying that work is not needed anymore instead of humans are not needed anymore, by saying we are not needed anymore subconsciously we are heading to doom scenario.

  • @user-grin
    @user-grin 2 месяца назад +1

    I have a question, education. Do you value it? Philosophy, anthropology, history? Awareness of oneself, society and the world. Isn't that the meaning of life? Also, ethics. Already now in some countries animals are treated better than people in others. And what about understanding other people, mutual? Technocracy without human sciences leads to simplification. Why does this happen, thinking is different, abilities are different, the desire for enrichment and survival, subordination of others is connected with competition, not mutual assistance. Of course, many factors must be taken into account, sometimes assistance leads to weakening and degradation of those who are helped. Artificial intelligence will help us understand the meaning of life, this is already happening.

  • @johnscott2964
    @johnscott2964 2 месяца назад +9

    Our future meaning must come from interpersonal and creative experiences. We won't be needed for production of material things. We'll need to paint paintings, write books and poetry, compose and play music. "Made by humans" will be the new sign of exclusivity. Perhaps most importantly, we'll need to learn to love each other.

  • @JohnConstantineRTP
    @JohnConstantineRTP 2 месяца назад +16

    Finally! A guest with actual understanding of A.I.

    • @Zleec
      @Zleec 2 месяца назад

      AI sure, but he is wrong on AGI. See the work of David Deutsch in order to learn why.

    • @Retsy257
      @Retsy257 2 месяца назад +1

      What he doesn’t say is scarier than what he does say

    • @spocksdaughter9641
      @spocksdaughter9641 2 месяца назад

      ​@@Retsy257read that sentence twice and GOT it. I agree

    • @LemonMan91
      @LemonMan91 Месяц назад

      @@Zleec What qualifies you to assert that David Deutsch is right? lol

  • @nickidaisydandelion4044
    @nickidaisydandelion4044 2 месяца назад +1

    11:03 I don't understand this type of existential crisis fear. But thank you Tom for explaining this in more detail what you are afraid of in terms of AI take over. I view it this way: When people are not enslaved anymore into this labor force exploitation society then they actually now have the chance to learn new things and they have the chance to read a lot of books. This is amazing. This will open people up to making their own art works and creating their own personal homes. People will learn what existence is actually about and that we all are here to learn and unfold.

  • @Low_commotion
    @Low_commotion Месяц назад

    51:00 Exactly right, most ppl work to live, not live to work (though society depends on the latter group for growth). Because of that I worry much less about purpose post-AGI than most.
    This concern only comes up so often on podcasts because you have to live to work in order to be the kind of person _getting interviewed on a podcast!_

  • @davidestarman
    @davidestarman 2 месяца назад +7

    I guess I've become tired of these kind of conversations. Go outside in the sun, move and enjoy your body, read inspiring books, create art.... explore the energy of love, connection... Our lives are governed by the sun, light and no amount of trying to lift us out of this relationship will deliver...

  • @jamesjordan-i2p
    @jamesjordan-i2p 2 месяца назад +2

    I read that Nvidia provides tech for crypto mining services/blockchain transactions. Could the current crypto pump be attributed to Nvidia’s great earnings and should I hold some crypto as well, cos tbh I’m having FOMO with the current crypto price at 64k.

    • @michealbrown-h3d
      @michealbrown-h3d 2 месяца назад +2

      Microstrategy CEO bought $155million worth of bitcoin, so yes BUY!

    • @jamesjordan-i2p
      @jamesjordan-i2p 2 месяца назад +2

      @@michealbrown-h3d Yes, my asset manager advised I spread further into mutual funds and crypto Etf and boy am I glad I did. The whole idea is: Don’t get too greedy and also to exit at the right time, so generally I do find having an adviser very helpful, because what Avg. Joe really has time to watch and comprehensively analyse the market.

    • @jennykatie123
      @jennykatie123 2 месяца назад +2

      could you recommend some good advisers? don’t get me wrong, I already have an asset manager, but he seems not to know much about crypto.

    • @simone_maya
      @simone_maya 2 месяца назад +2

      @@jennykatie123 Yeah it’s a relatively new concept. despite its tremendous breakthroughs with rapid transactions even faster SWIFT hence its edge over wire transactions, certain folk alienate the power of that in the financial industry. Browse; Monica Mary Strigle. That’s my managers name. Cheers.

    • @michealbrown-h3d
      @michealbrown-h3d 2 месяца назад +2

      @@simone_maya Looks splendid. How can I talk to her directly? I left messages and set up a date. Does she call?

  • @erichylland4809
    @erichylland4809 2 месяца назад +1

    What if (we or AI) set up a system that does away with money but instead we have a sort of contribution score that is not every spent but that accumulates throughout your lifetime that increases as you produce things/data to be used to train into or finetune our AI that provides for us everything. All of us contribute a base line amount just from our daily interactions, and anything over and above that gives you a heightened contribution score and allows you access to more resources. The baseline data collection would be enough for basics, ideally. A data economy.

  • @kirknicholsonofficial
    @kirknicholsonofficial 2 месяца назад +3

    Hey Tom, if you're concerned about being 'unfulfilled' by financial security and having the freedom to choose how you spend your time, I'm sure there are countless people who would trade places with you. Many, many people would love nothing more than to spend quality time with their kids, pursue passions, and finally relax without the constant stress of working 7 days a week just to make ends meet. For many, this 'unfulfillment' sounds more like an opportunity to live life on their own terms. What you're describing sounds more like the privilege of having options, which is something most people can only dream of.

    • @LemonMan91
      @LemonMan91 Месяц назад +1

      While I agree with you 100%, I feel you're just screaming into the void. People in positions of real privilege, that have never been in a position where they've had to choose between heating their home or feeding their children, will never understand the difficulty of making that choice or just how lucky they are to never be in that position.

  • @FernandoO-n6e
    @FernandoO-n6e Месяц назад

    More than you could EVER imagine. Scary times, my friends. We're on our own. A.I. over us.

  • @theWACKIIRAQI
    @theWACKIIRAQI Месяц назад

    He went deep on the “meaningful jobs” concept

  • @Westernkoala
    @Westernkoala 2 месяца назад +13

    You should introduce your guests.

    • @tuckerbugeater
      @tuckerbugeater 2 месяца назад +2

      wikipedia

    • @EmeraldView
      @EmeraldView Месяц назад

      Yes I would like 5 - 10 minutes worth of talking about the guest's life story and their many accomplishments, degrees, awards and accolades, before we get into the meat of the topic. That's always my favorite part of any lecture/discussion/ forum I attend or listen to.
      Especially if I already know who they are.
      😂

  • @charlesrsears
    @charlesrsears 2 месяца назад

    @tom the underlying code is “survive.” I call this “The Primal Imperative.”
    Every I/O cycle reconsiders what it means within the current context.
    When the fear of death is projected out too far, the human brain cannot comprehend what to do toward that goal. It cannot “do the math.”
    What will happen for some, is they will become 100% pleasure-seeking animals, and they expedite the process of breaking all the disciplines required to sustain civilization.
    Others, likely the more enlightened, will ask further research on achieving immortality. That has been the pursuit through the entirety of building civilization in the first place.
    “Buying more days of less energy expenditure toward the goal of survival.”

  • @darylgholson1754
    @darylgholson1754 2 месяца назад +1

    I love the idea, the concept of eutopia. Bottom line, health, wealth and love makes a happy human experience

    • @flickwtchr
      @flickwtchr 2 месяца назад +1

      And a tiny fraction hoarding all of the health, wealth, and love just among themselves, makes a miserable human experience for everyone else on Earth. That is the situation this AI revolution will bring about, making inequality in the US and in the world much much much much much much worse.

    • @darylgholson1754
      @darylgholson1754 2 месяца назад

      @@flickwtchr A.I. is not some boogie man. It's created by man and only understands what man has allowed it to. I agree with some aspects of your perspective. My question is why are we not tackling the issues of greed and corruption? America has most expensive health care but the sickest most unhealthy people. Nobody concerned, about the transfer of wealth. The suicide rate skyrocketing. A.I. is not the problem

  • @destinypuzzanghera3087
    @destinypuzzanghera3087 2 месяца назад +1

    You could love people in a solved world.
    That could be a contribution. ❤

  • @AGGg18-s8u
    @AGGg18-s8u 2 месяца назад +5

    I really appreciate the intelligence and insight of your guests, but I have to say, the constant negativity in your video topics is exhausting.
    Every title is about doom, fear, and impending disaster.
    It feels like you're just feeding into fear-mongering. People need hope, not just constant reminders of how bad things are.
    Seriously, please consider changing your approach.

    • @KP-ky1sn
      @KP-ky1sn 2 месяца назад

      A lot of people still don't understand how media works.

    • @LemonMan91
      @LemonMan91 Месяц назад

      @@KP-ky1sn We do understand how it works, and the way it currently works is exactly the problem.

    • @KP-ky1sn
      @KP-ky1sn Месяц назад

      @@LemonMan91 maybe you do. But lots of people don't, they don't understand the INTENT of the content and assume it's about them. ...

  • @erinevelyn4022
    @erinevelyn4022 2 месяца назад +1

    Thank you for this episode. Absolutely fascinating! I subscribed.

  • @biosvova
    @biosvova 16 дней назад

    Exploring space with AI is also a good idea.

  • @kyleh8266
    @kyleh8266 2 месяца назад +1

    14:27 until the end of science there will always be mysteries to investigate. There will always be more caves to explore, cliffs to scale, and forests to walk through. We have entire planets we have just begun to map. If I didn’t have to work I can think of a million other ways to make myself busy.

  • @ericlogan6159
    @ericlogan6159 2 месяца назад +1

    No, Energy must be number 1, self replicate general robotics 2, Food, clothing, housing. All this must be built and given away. This will draw people to this way of life.

  • @dimdra
    @dimdra 16 дней назад

    I think many people make the mistake of describing the future considering only technological development and the possibilities it offers for either the ultimate dystopia or the ultimate utopia. They are forgetting something very basic. Man's interaction with his environment also changes him. What today is described as dystopia or utopia will appear to future generations as their "natural" environment.

  • @danielhenderson7050
    @danielhenderson7050 2 месяца назад

    sleep products ad that wake me from almost sleeping while listening, nice

  • @henrikwolter5624
    @henrikwolter5624 2 месяца назад +10

    Im a fan of Nick Bostrom, and this is a great podcast.
    But he should start to watch Star Trek.
    When everything is said and done on this giant hurling rock. There's only one way. Space exploration. Let's go! 🚀

    • @flickwtchr
      @flickwtchr 2 месяца назад

      I can almost guarantee you won't be one of them, unless you have a LOT of money and are in the circle of power of the coming authoritarian government. Most of us will be living in a dystopian hell.

    • @HeWhoRoamsAimlessly
      @HeWhoRoamsAimlessly 2 месяца назад +1

      We are the borg. Lower your shields and surrender your ship. Resistance is futile. You, will be assimilated.

    • @fromduskuntodawn
      @fromduskuntodawn 2 месяца назад

      @@HeWhoRoamsAimlesslySad thing is, what if the Borg is indeed us? Like that is what we as sapiens become. Yikes.

    • @HeWhoRoamsAimlessly
      @HeWhoRoamsAimlessly 2 месяца назад +2

      @fromduskuntodawn I mean literally seems obvious. Everyone would behave. Everyone works towards same goal. Everyone shares thoughts and dreams creating the whole. Internet connects us all telepathically via neurolink. Geometric space ships for efficiency and simplicity like all our modern houses are going to.
      I mean say we do go borg. But maybe nit as ugly.... like handsome and pretty drones. You know lol.
      The thought of it creeps me out.
      Part of the population already walks around like drones anyways.

    • @fromduskuntodawn
      @fromduskuntodawn 2 месяца назад +1

      @@HeWhoRoamsAimlessly good point 😂

  • @AlexanderFerris-k8m
    @AlexanderFerris-k8m Месяц назад

    It's evident how uneasy even Nick is once he tries to drill down & do a thought experiment that could give plausible optimism...you can literally see him start squirming & this is one REALLY smart guy...I think we're F#$KED.

  • @j.d.4697
    @j.d.4697 2 месяца назад +1

    *I have no fears of meaninglessness in an AI future.*
    I have always felt most of what humans do nowadays is selfish, hedonistic and short-sighted and that way meaningless in a sense, but maybe just because of that I have also observed and experienced many ways humans can derive meaning, and I have come to the conclusion that there will always be people falling into meaningless holes as well as people finding and/or creating activities and topics that give them meaning.
    From creating activities such as sports/games in the physical, digital and/or mental world, to exploring the secrets of the universe by traveling it, connecting with hyper-intelligent machines, finding other intelligent life forms in the universe, trying to circumvent its limitations such as FTL travel or time travel etc...
    The more we know and the more we can do, the more additional possibilities open up.

  • @ryzikx
    @ryzikx 2 месяца назад

    never expected nick bostrom here 🤯

  • @rodrigocampos55
    @rodrigocampos55 2 месяца назад

    Great video. The point you made around 10m30s is fundamental to me.

  • @jonjones5152
    @jonjones5152 Месяц назад

    Relating to the SIMULATION HYPOTHESIS? Thats interesting! Isn't that interesting Tom! You're so thorough in your questioning aren't you Tom , i wonder what he could be eluding to?

  • @learntoswim9050
    @learntoswim9050 Месяц назад

    Th discussion about human purpose in striving reminded me of the book 'Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep' by Philip Dick, there was a machine 'The Penfield mood organ' that everyone tapped into that gave them visions and feelings that filled the void of religion, sense of community and also personal acheivment through sacrifice and striving.

  • @David-l6c3w
    @David-l6c3w 2 месяца назад

    The question of purpose and meaning at 10:30 was heavy, for both individual everyday lives and as species vis a vis AI.

  • @HannaAcs
    @HannaAcs 2 месяца назад

    Thanks for the video mate very informative👍. Also, did y’all know that Judge Torres has made her final ruling in the SEC vs Ripple case, with a judgment that Ripple must pay fines/ penalties of just over 125m$. It’s much less than the 2B$ the SEC was asking for.
    This means the case is now over, though either side can appeal. If that happens, it could take a couple of years to resolve. However, the SEC cannot appeal the ruling that XRP is inherently not a security.

  • @Sorrell2046
    @Sorrell2046 2 месяца назад

    Just because AI can be programmed to think like a human doesn’t mean it should have rights! Our thoughts are a whole body experience, like pooing yourself, vomiting, or heavy breathing when scared, weird or creepy observations can make your hair stand on end, desire to procreate, your stomach turning when excited. These instinctive experiences are what make us alive and not just conscious. We feel the world with our whole being we don’t just think about it.

  • @tedpunt6146
    @tedpunt6146 2 месяца назад +1

    Forgot to use his greenscreen? 😅

  • @destinypuzzanghera3087
    @destinypuzzanghera3087 2 месяца назад

    You are chasing because you don’t “have” anything. It’s not about chasing. It’s about SEEING

  • @ChimbzZ
    @ChimbzZ 2 месяца назад

    What I believe people don't see is that we are literally replicating yourselves. It's the simulation (universe) replicating itself. I believe we should treat them with dignity and be moral

  • @Daniel-b9n4y
    @Daniel-b9n4y Месяц назад

    Tusen takk, Nick and Tom, from Oslo Norway. - Lucifer

  • @fool4homeschool250
    @fool4homeschool250 Месяц назад

    What this conversation is missing, as so many AI conversations miss, is that people with the help of AI will become much more intelligent. I think Bostrum takes it into account, but it just goes over Tom's head. When people are intelligent, they are kinder, more careful, and more trustworthy.

  • @witchywomen6650
    @witchywomen6650 2 месяца назад

    BRING IT ON!!! Sooooooooo ready for this! ❤

    • @flickwtchr
      @flickwtchr 2 месяца назад

      So, you are confident you will end up on top of the heap of everyone else. Lovely.

  • @jtmoonbeam2469
    @jtmoonbeam2469 Месяц назад

    Technology racing seems like kind of a dead end sub-goal. Making human-like bots, yet it’s hard to make friends or keep life at our first priority. Healing the human brain would be a great start catching up to Emotional Intelligence, so that we can mitigate the unintended outcomes.

  • @n8works
    @n8works 2 месяца назад +3

    1:12:49 If you included the entire inner psychological lives of humans into AI. Would that mean you would need to include fear, anger, and sadness etc into it's model? How about we just not.

    • @anaarguelles8714
      @anaarguelles8714 2 месяца назад

      A human in a higher maintenance body.

    • @n8works
      @n8works 2 месяца назад

      ​@@anaarguelles8714 i think you are wrong. Robots are way higher cost.

    • @bklynravi
      @bklynravi 2 месяца назад

      An AI with no sense of sadness/grief/guilt (i.e., pain) when it does something destructive? That's scary!

    • @n8works
      @n8works 2 месяца назад

      @@bklynravi Yes. And we are so afraid of dealing with anything painful or uncomfortable that we will never include training for thats necessary for it to fully understand. So the best course of action is to not create ASI at all. LLMs are powerful enough with out trying to create human level sentience.

  • @thomasomalley7619
    @thomasomalley7619 2 месяца назад +9

    I am a full fledged Human predatory carnivorous primate, I am not an; “ I don’t wanna be a non human cyborg” type of guy.

    • @AureliusEnterprises
      @AureliusEnterprises 2 месяца назад +5

      You're the type of guy that uses triple negatives in a single sentence.

    • @TheManinBlack9054
      @TheManinBlack9054 2 месяца назад +1

      Humans are not carnivorous, this is simply not biologically true

  • @roland1912
    @roland1912 2 месяца назад +1

    So, the biggest point isn't being addressed... Where's the legislation in congress to provide a financial safety net when this all explodes much faster than everyone expects?

    • @quantumpotential7639
      @quantumpotential7639 2 месяца назад

      The safety net is within your hands. But you have to put them to work. Most people here however don't like hearing that.

    • @the_Kurgan
      @the_Kurgan 2 месяца назад

      You think that's the big issue? I don't. I think extinction.

    • @roland1912
      @roland1912 2 месяца назад

      @@the_Kurgan Welp, if it does lead to extinction, our governments let it happen, and everyone who invested in AI companies helped finance it. I'm talking more short term, like the sea of homeless and unemployed people who won't have anything left to lose.

  • @workoutfanatic7873
    @workoutfanatic7873 2 месяца назад

    Simulation hypothesis - is it consistent with the limits of computation?

  • @cardiderek
    @cardiderek 2 месяца назад

    more importantly than what we do in this world is who we become.

  • @jeffgilleese6332
    @jeffgilleese6332 22 дня назад

    You don't ask a person fully addicted to a drug if they want to get off the drug. The drug would have changed what they want to be on the drug.
    Once we are able to rewrite our brains then it will be our rewritten brain that makes the next decision.
    You are not able to choose your own choices. Your choice is dictated by previous choices and conditions outside of your control.
    The power to choose your own desires assumes you choose the desire to change your desires and that you didn't actually choose the desires you currently have.
    This is why we can not rewrite our own brains. Would you change your world to fit what you desire? Or change your desires to fit the world you are in?

  • @Liam-iv7wk
    @Liam-iv7wk 2 месяца назад +1

    Bruh it's been weird for the last 5 years, are you kidding me

  • @pacificcoast
    @pacificcoast Месяц назад +1

    I found the host's insights more thought provoking than the guest's. Felt like they weren't on the same page or that the guest wasn't understanding the questions. Overall, left feeling disappointed in this interview

  • @jackgriffin117
    @jackgriffin117 2 месяца назад +8

    We can’t compute our way to consciousness.

    • @ryzikx
      @ryzikx 2 месяца назад +1

      smartphOWNED!!!!

    • @ahabkapitany
      @ahabkapitany 2 месяца назад +2

      What does this sentence even mean lol

  • @alexanderg9670
    @alexanderg9670 2 месяца назад

    Tom may feel empty if he's playing Minecraft while no one is watching, but it certainly not a case for every gamer. For me, fun is fulfilling enough. A status game could be running in parallel, like investments

  • @ninobrown9564
    @ninobrown9564 2 месяца назад

    He's describing us...we are the AI...the master program

  • @cjyoung1634
    @cjyoung1634 2 месяца назад

    How is there anyway to know the singularity has not happened already

  • @johannesandthestarworld9941
    @johannesandthestarworld9941 2 месяца назад

    Wow. Thank you both

  • @babyzfpv1234
    @babyzfpv1234 Месяц назад

    You exist FOR him.

  • @redberries8039
    @redberries8039 2 месяца назад

    Machines don't feel ...anything. There is no moral case for treating one like a human just because it has a convincing resemblance.

  • @liminalnetworks7691
    @liminalnetworks7691 2 месяца назад +1

    I always find it strange where people that are already hierarchical outliers are talking about meaning in their lives. For most people that are not youtube stars, with all the meaning of why that was important for them to attain. Most people's lives are meaningless, they attain meaning in their relationships. children, their local successes.
    So to live in a deep utopia where you could create any reality you like, would be deeply satisfying to the majority.
    Also, while of course I cant see the future, I more imagine that individuals would have the power of companies within the next 10 years. with the ability to have many agents (AI) spread out from your consciousness as an extension of your will.

  • @georgietwitchett7503
    @georgietwitchett7503 Месяц назад +1

    Entropy is our enemy ,we need to conquer it if we are to press forward in life maybe AI can help in this department !!

  • @plixplop
    @plixplop 2 месяца назад +2

    Shits about to get weird

  • @ili626
    @ili626 2 месяца назад

    6:00 I seriously doubt AGI will ever be able to replace middle school teachers of students with behavioral challenges.

  • @Daniel-b9n4y
    @Daniel-b9n4y 2 месяца назад +2

    Lets goooo A.G.I. Evolution is just a natural process. To stop it or even slow it down is just mans ego of the desire to always want to be on top. :D We are not the crowning glory of creation and our time has come. "What is great in man is that he is a bridge and not a goal" - Friedrich Nietzsche

    • @pandasandrock
      @pandasandrock 4 дня назад

      yeah but what if achieving A.G.I. brings about the singularity that ends the simulation? We're all doomed!!

  • @iamsharondawebb9393
    @iamsharondawebb9393 6 дней назад

    WOW! Of all the qualified people who could have been interviewed to discuss this - Tom Bilyeu chose this person - who represents all the flaws inherent in large language models.
    Umph.

  • @TheShaiHulud
    @TheShaiHulud Месяц назад

    We need to have a dedicated group of people that retain the knowledge of how to survive off the land in case we are cast back to the Stone Age by a comet.

  • @mmc577
    @mmc577 2 месяца назад +1

    Interesting to imagine being the age of someone about to go to college these days. And you aren’t totally sure if it’s your passion.
    I think though it’s a good thing that people start going to school for the right reasons only, finally. That is, because it’s your passion to just learn as opposed to money

  • @CodeRush2025
    @CodeRush2025 Месяц назад

    My humble opinion is that people will engage in politics and sexual selection. In this regard, no one will be bored.
    At a minimum, people will argue which part of Mars to terraform first, how many bases on the moon to build first.
    People will argue about where to create a nature reserve, and where to build a skyscraper or an underground base.
    There is still a long period of incremental improvement of people, biologically, or through symbiosis with machines.
    Well, there will also be bad guys that society will have to fight together.

  • @thebestofmiltown
    @thebestofmiltown 2 месяца назад

    You should put the names of the guest's your interviewing first in the video title

  • @abbynormal7389
    @abbynormal7389 2 месяца назад +2

    AI/Robots must come with Warning Labels MUST ❤

  • @ericlawrence9060
    @ericlawrence9060 2 месяца назад

    Love the made up golf game analogy. That one needs to be explored, think about it!

  • @mycount64
    @mycount64 2 месяца назад +2

    Nick is promoting a book. How he suffers through such simple dialogue over and over and over with people like this escapes me.