@@allemander well AREN'T YOU THE MODULE OF MECHANICAL EFFICIENCY OF PROFICIENCY IN PERFECTLY PRONOUNCED CONUNDRUMS !!!!! PLURAL ????? WHO GIVES ONE SHIT ?????? ANYWAY,,, FANTASTIC DAYS 1976/1977 !!!!!
Æ N I Ǝ M A don’t quit on that man. Your joints are designed to last for a crazy amount of time. Look into some of this new wave of physical therapy and reclaim your movement. Look into Donnie Thompson’s “low back protocols”, Louis Simmons reverse hyperextension, and in general, kelly starret has a lot of free information in regards to increasing and improving mobility. Donnie Thompson is pure gold. He was a power lifter who set a world record back squat at 44 years old (1260 lbs). He attributes his longevity to very unorthodox rehab methods. Personally, at 32, knee surgery, a broken orbital wall, a near complete tear of my Achilles,; I’ve never been more agile in my life. I picked up the skateboard again with a brand new Perspective on movement and control.
Yeah all skateboarding is cool no matter what style, SK8 or die! This is a great video and the year I was born! I started in 87 skating and I appreciate all of it.
I was there,still have the ticket stub! went there Steve day and Paul barrios,Steve is the eventer of the handstand kick flip and the 180 h.k.f. Steve drove us in the grasshopper, a green citron,Bently motor, like rolls royce. we met up with Russ howell, our mentor, and friend . Russell was our major influence!!! contrary to a lie in a major movie ,Russ ripped at parks and bowls . he was a animal, a magician on a skateboard
Wow. I’m 18 and some of these events looked really cool. It feels like some of these tricks could never be pulled off with modern skateboards. Free styling comes to mind. That looked awesome. I’d love to see that kind of stuff today.
9:58 - I never realized how much of an influence on Mullen that Russ Howell had, but the section of his run shown here is almost move for move identical. Kind of refreshing to see
@@king_torre_calchi2242 yeah, that girl can definitely get it: thicc, stacked, and flexible. I think Ellen and I can invent a few variations of the Spider.
having just gotten into skating last year I thought the gorilla grip was a joke trick for beginners who couldn't ollie, and here it is in competition before the ollie was even invented for flatground 8:47 pretty amazing to see it done so well.
Ed Nadalin would gorilla grip.& jump bikes at Huntington Beach. I liked jumping over people. Get 4-5 on there hands and knees, & go. I'm grateful I never landed on anyone.
They still do a flip trick in this video, the old school kickflip which was done back then without the Ollie. You just stick one foot on the side of the board and flip it to the side and land on it. The Ollie kickflip is just an update to this and was invented by Mullen and is what we think of as a kickflip today but essentially it’s the same trick but just Ollieing into it.
I remember getting my first skateboard with polyurethane wheels around 1978 or so. My friend’s brother built a wooden ramp in their driveway which we practiced 180s on. Board sports have been part of my life since that time. I credit California skate/surf culture for its influence to us kids growing up in the Midwest 🛹 🏂 🏄♀️
I'm 46 years old. When I was a kid I dreamed of living in southern California.It seemed like the best place on earth. It's a far cry from what it was in those days. Damn shame to such a beautiful place.
I grew up surfing and skating here in So Cal....Los Angeles county Santa monica, venice, south bay... I still live here.. But the open border has turned LA in to a 3rd world overpopulated dump.. blows. not leaving no matter how fucked the latino invaders make it here.....
Wow. Flashback time. I think I got my first skateboard in about 1974. Maybe by the time of this competition I was using wheels wider than the trucks on a really narrow board and wondering why things became unstable when going downhill. It probably was something like a a Sims Taperkick board with sims Bowl Rider wheels and ACS 430 trucks sitting on 1/2" risers.
@Jamey Craig If you think skateboarding was dead in the early 90s you were either a big-arena vert skater or simply not paying attention. H-Street "Next Generation" and Plan B "Questionable" both came out in 1992 and are now acknowledged as classics full of heavyweight skating. Way, Cardiel, Agah and Carroll were the SOTYs. Switch skating first appeared. Mullen learned to skate street. Tom Penny appeared. Skateboarding was at a crucial stage and the evolution of tricks and culture in that period was incredible.
My first skateboard was "The Shark" My parents ordered from the Sears Catalog in the 70's. The good ole days of tube socks, burgers and fries, Orange Crush soda, and scateboarding. 🥰
@@nkmcfrln I don't understand why you always feel the need to start interactions with total strangers by calling them a dirty name !?!?! Are you that miserable with your pathetically lame life that you feel the need to bash on everything and everyone !?!!?!???
@@youknowit1916 I have encountered this spaz boy on a few other comments sections of other videos about skateboarding and also he was talking trash on some guitar related videos, or maybe it was boss pedals !? Any way dudes a total fucking troll or just really really bad at come backs😉
@aunt jenifer And of course somebody that believes that the world is flat is following me around and posting multiple comments about me when I’ve said nothing to them.
Did you see this video? I as a skater since 88 who still skates 4 times per week for an hour and more have to say... kudos. No skater today can do what they can do. We are all stiff non flexible motherfuckers now trying to be hard and tough doing a very limited set of tricks.
@@TheAlphaFlamingo ... he did ride fly without a grab over the coping. The ollie on flat changed it all. Airing over the coping without a real ollie is not the same influential trick. Rodney was just to shy to claim it.
@@oskargarden4559 💯Rodney Mullen is from a generation that encouraged creativity and he was just doing wild shit. The "standardized" shit is nothing other than people copying a bunch of moves from innovators. I give MORE props to these kids doing original shit than copy trick from skate vids. Sure, jumping off 50 stairs on some parkour skating shit is gnarly and all, but it isn't foundation, style, or original.
Kory Hermann Yes indeedy, but our sport is pretty complex these days. Flatland, street style ramps, vert ramps and slalom will hopefully the format. And maybe even huge distance and height comps too.
Skitch Hitchcock also did Gorilla Grip jumps-his main stunt. I saw a demo of him in 1976 at Golf Mill, Niles, IL, age 11. Mom bought me his signature board-a flat fiberglass deck w/ urethane wheels, but loose bearings!
Desaray Von Esson I was in love... She eventually worked in the pro shop atbthe Endless Wave in Oxnard... she was SO sweet...this was my era then in the 80's it became all vert.
Funny but they seriously didnt feel that way back then. And that was back when grip tape was something you put on porch stairs. But looking back and still riding today yeah my ankles hurt just looking at them.
Just look how beautiful the people and material(check the gloves for example and shoes) and stuff was in comparison with the ugly every thing these days even the people style is fucking annoying from music to clothing to talking to living to the sharme of life
I am not a skateboarder but why has this vanished? I'd love to see especially an artistic interpretation, similar to ice skating. They obviously tried a lot of pioneer stuff but much is so nice. Why is all of this gone in modern skateboarding?
It's kinda crazy seeing this and noticing that at the time skateboarding was heading more towards popular culture than counter culture where it resided for a few decades. It took 44 years from this point to have skateboarding recognized as an Olympic sport, but I can help but think that it should have happened faster. I don't know why or exactly when, but somewhere along the line skateboarding went underground and stayed there for a good 25-30 years.
Went to school with some of these people, one being Ellen Berryman, who went on to become a great field biologist, and who I'm proud to call a Facebook friend.
That blond dude with the stache rode for Hobie, I believe....Russ Howell? Man, I followed skateboarding and motocross so much in those days. Still love my Road Riders #4!
Where the fuck are the Z Boys?!?! They were already a team by 1973/74’. WTF?! Shred In peace Jay Boy. “Heroes get remembered.....BUT LEGENDS NEVER DIE”. (Sandlot ha). Team Pain til’ death motherfuckers. ☠️.....FTW.....☠️ …-VI-VI-VI-…
I'd love to see current pro skaters do an old timey competition like this. It would be hilarious.
njt002 Yeah and on the boards from back then.
That actually sounds logs the greatest skate competition ever !!!!
just look up freestyle competions. they still exist and use weird ass boards
They will be. It's called the Olympics.
That freestyle has been ignored by the Olympic Committee just goes to show they are only in it for the cool points and not the sportsmanship
FANTASTIC DAY'S !!!!! MONOLITHICALL!!!!¡!
Jeremy Homewood days.
It’s plural and means more than one day. No apostrophe needed.
@@allemander well AREN'T YOU THE MODULE OF MECHANICAL EFFICIENCY OF PROFICIENCY IN PERFECTLY PRONOUNCED CONUNDRUMS !!!!! PLURAL ????? WHO GIVES ONE SHIT ?????? ANYWAY,,, FANTASTIC DAYS 1976/1977 !!!!!
Eye woz there!
and Tony Hawk come in ans shows them how to use a Vert Ramp.
10:42 he probably got bald really early 🤣
The real trick was nobody’s hair got caught in their wheels.
During the handstand? I feel ya!
6 months after this Rodney Mullen would get his first skateboard
@Æ N I Ǝ M A Start skate again :D
@Æ N I Ǝ M A im 30 and i started skating again after 15 years
The end lol
I was just about to give this comment
Æ N I Ǝ M A don’t quit on that man. Your joints are designed to last for a crazy amount of time.
Look into some of this new wave of physical therapy and reclaim your movement.
Look into Donnie Thompson’s “low back protocols”, Louis Simmons reverse hyperextension, and in general, kelly starret has a lot of free information in regards to increasing and improving mobility.
Donnie Thompson is pure gold. He was a power lifter who set a world record back squat at 44 years old (1260 lbs). He attributes his longevity to very unorthodox rehab methods.
Personally, at 32, knee surgery, a broken orbital wall, a near complete tear of my Achilles,; I’ve never been more agile in my life. I picked up the skateboard again with a brand new Perspective on movement and control.
Even though the skateboarding skills have advanced, as a true skater, you gotta love and appreciate this.
VAL13C nah
Deathringer its an 80s generation thing. You wouldn’t understand.
Yeah all skateboarding is cool no matter what style, SK8 or die! This is a great video and the year I was born! I started in 87 skating and I appreciate all of it.
Advanced, hell no, we've gone backwards in terms of street skating
@@val13c59 70s
I was there,still have the ticket stub! went there Steve day and Paul barrios,Steve is the eventer of the handstand kick flip and the 180 h.k.f. Steve drove us in the grasshopper, a green citron,Bently motor, like rolls royce. we met up with Russ howell, our mentor, and friend . Russell was our major influence!!! contrary to a lie in a major movie ,Russ ripped at parks and bowls . he was a animal, a magician on a skateboard
Ah memories.
lol jk i wasnt even born then
What are their thoughts on current skateboard?
Thank you for sharing and contribution. 76 the year I was born. Grew up on on skateboarding. I love it
Isaac Pulido same here August 18 1976 it was a great year😂😳😂
Wow , that is just awsome .
When tony alva and jay adams showed up on the scene they changed skateboarding from gymnastics on wheels to what it is today
Straight up! You can sure see the influence that guys like Russ Howell, Ty Page, and Bruce Logan had on this group.
But was that change for the better or did it make it a completely different type of competition.
Yep! Z-boys & Dog Town
@@ItsFinishedRuss Howell was in video
Woman, man, elders, kids, disabled, all about having fun and skate :D That was beautyful. Thanks!
All white, not a colored person in sight
@@c0ntag10n uh no I saw other people of race in the documentary and why does it matter anyways
but we're back to 12 different kinds of bathrooms 😂😂🤦🏻♀️
Wow. I’m 18 and some of these events looked really cool. It feels like some of these tricks could never be pulled off with modern skateboards. Free styling comes to mind. That looked awesome. I’d love to see that kind of stuff today.
9:58 - I never realized how much of an influence on Mullen that Russ Howell had, but the section of his run shown here is almost move for move identical. Kind of refreshing to see
You can see how Rodney Mullen faithfully adopted the old school flowing surf style. Great video
Chicas looking good back in the day.
That Desiree hyna was thick
Seriously. Women's style was so much better back then.
@@king_torre_calchi2242 yeah, that girl can definitely get it: thicc, stacked, and flexible.
I think Ellen and I can invent a few variations of the Spider.
Yup. 2020 chicas take note.
having just gotten into skating last year I thought the gorilla grip was a joke trick for beginners who couldn't ollie, and here it is in competition before the ollie was even invented for flatground 8:47 pretty amazing to see it done so well.
Modern skateboarding is about big dangerous air time. As a sport it has changed.
Ed Nadalin would gorilla grip.& jump bikes at Huntington Beach. I liked jumping over people. Get 4-5 on there hands and knees, & go. I'm grateful I never landed on anyone.
@8:47, did he ollie by grabbing the board with his toes? Madness.....
It's not an ollie, it's a toe grab
@@imacat4060 Yikes. Dude has some gnarly toes. :)
Called a gorilla hop actually
They were also doing flip kicks, not kickflips. The kickflip was invented by Rodney Mullen a few years later after he invented the flat ground ollie.
10:15 the porn music it the background, "Sure feels good!"
9:41 - "the granddaddy of skateboard, TWENTY-SEVEN year old Russ Howell..." :-)
he was born 1949 :D
In today's time 27 is super young and not even close to retirement from skateboarding...
@@Karudzik he's still skating
The girls 👍
8:46 The guys just grabbed the board with his freaking toes.
The hippie jumps omg
Gorilla grip I think it was called.
Its considered a dumb trick nowadays
No ollie yet so had to resort to monkey business lol
Thank god...I am not the only one pushing Mongo. 😊
Wow !! Skateboarding has sure come a looong way....
Flip tricks are cool but these old tricks are dope af too. My man doing headspins at 10:35!
All those free style trick can't be done by today kids in 2019.
@@denoc817
Are you sure about that. They may be able to carry out the tick but how would they do in the competition back then?
They still do a flip trick in this video, the old school kickflip which was done back then without the Ollie. You just stick one foot on the side of the board and flip it to the side and land on it. The Ollie kickflip is just an update to this and was invented by Mullen and is what we think of as a kickflip today but essentially it’s the same trick but just Ollieing into it.
I remember getting my first skateboard with polyurethane wheels around 1978 or so. My friend’s brother built a wooden ramp in their driveway which we practiced 180s on. Board sports have been part of my life since that time. I credit California skate/surf culture for its influence to us kids growing up in the Midwest 🛹 🏂 🏄♀️
I'm 46 years old. When I was a kid I dreamed of living in southern California.It seemed like the best place on earth. It's a far cry from what it was in those days. Damn shame to such a beautiful place.
woodie will yes sir
Guess I’m lucky!
I grew up surfing and skating here in So Cal....Los Angeles county
Santa monica, venice, south bay...
I still live here..
But the open border has turned LA in to a 3rd world overpopulated dump..
blows.
not leaving no matter how fucked the latino invaders make it here.....
@@fucketaboutit racist much
@Jamey Craig lol what are you on about
Wow. Flashback time. I think I got my first skateboard in about 1974. Maybe by the time of this competition I was using wheels wider than the trucks on a really narrow board and wondering why things became unstable when going downhill. It probably was something like a a Sims Taperkick board with sims Bowl Rider wheels and ACS 430 trucks sitting on 1/2" risers.
Yeah I knew they had to be some of those SIMS pure juice wheels....they made the longest
I think Russ Howell came straight from work
Memories of those days, barefoot, cutoffs and t-shirt stuffed in my back pocket. Wind in your hair and free.
It's hard to believe girls and guys my age were making skating history forty years ago, meanwhile I can barely pop a wheelie.
@customvideo454 What the fuck xD
Maybe you should get out more like go outside, and stop typing on the computer holed up in your dark bedroom.
@@roamlikekane lmao youre the obvious virgin replying to a 4 year old comment 😂
@@roamlikekane totally agree ... Brainless talentless millennial's
@customvideo454 yup totally agree ... Brainless talentless millennial's how did we let this happen. Kids had talent back then
9:42 Yo dawg, I heard you like skateboards.
So I put skateboards on your skateboards, so you can skate when you skate.
I'm from the future.
So before the kick flip there was the flip kick,
Always something new going on in the world of wheels...
Postalferret Withrum lol
When kickflips were new they were called ollie kickflips.
The key to winning was the highest tube socks
Then Jay Adams comes in and shuts everyone down (cue Iron Man by Black Sabbath)
this video gave me the feels.. miss the 70s
It’s a good thing skateboarding feels 10x better than it looks or it would never have survived this era!
Rufusdos Landing on your elbows on asphalt or concrete doesn't feel very good though
@@nothing2see315 Haha I know, neither does breaking the ball-joint off the top of your arm! But skateboarding...it's worth it!
this era was beautiful to watch, & extremely difficult maneuvers for the time. Much of this is still hard to do today
@Jamey Craig If you think skateboarding was dead in the early 90s you were either a big-arena vert skater or simply not paying attention. H-Street "Next Generation" and Plan B "Questionable" both came out in 1992 and are now acknowledged as classics full of heavyweight skating. Way, Cardiel, Agah and Carroll were the SOTYs. Switch skating first appeared. Mullen learned to skate street. Tom Penny appeared. Skateboarding was at a crucial stage and the evolution of tricks and culture in that period was incredible.
Someone PLEASE post the names and artists of the songs on this video-in particular, the songs that start at approximately 5:40 and 10:10.
My first skateboard was "The Shark" My parents ordered from the Sears Catalog in the 70's. The good ole days of tube socks, burgers and fries, Orange Crush soda, and scateboarding. 🥰
Then Rodney Mullen perfected Alan Gelfands ollie on flat ground and skateboarding changed forever.
Yeah, that happened right after this competition you fucking dork.
@@nkmcfrln Oh, look, an edgy person... wooooo.
@@nkmcfrln I don't understand why you always feel the need to start interactions with total strangers by calling them a dirty name !?!?!
Are you that miserable with your pathetically lame life that you feel the need to bash on everything and everyone !?!!?!???
@@youknowit1916 I have encountered this spaz boy on a few other comments sections of other videos about skateboarding and also he was talking trash on some guitar related videos, or maybe it was boss pedals !? Any way dudes a total fucking troll or just really really bad at come backs😉
@aunt jenifer And of course somebody that believes that the world is flat is following me around and posting multiple comments about me when I’ve said nothing to them.
Holy shit that hippie jumps are bigger than now a days
We'd have to wait a decade after this to see real trick innovation... a.k.a. Rodney Mullen.
2 years actually. Alan Gelfand was the first man to make any trick that was substantial. He made the ollie :)
It's all relative time wise...
Did you see this video? I as a skater since 88 who still skates 4 times per week for an hour and more have to say... kudos. No skater today can do what they can do. We are all stiff non flexible motherfuckers now trying to be hard and tough doing a very limited set of tricks.
@@TheAlphaFlamingo ... he did ride fly without a grab over the coping. The ollie on flat changed it all. Airing over the coping without a real ollie is not the same influential trick. Rodney was just to shy to claim it.
@@oskargarden4559 💯Rodney Mullen is from a generation that encouraged creativity and he was just doing wild shit. The "standardized" shit is nothing other than people copying a bunch of moves from innovators. I give MORE props to these kids doing original shit than copy trick from skate vids. Sure, jumping off 50 stairs on some parkour skating shit is gnarly and all, but it isn't foundation, style, or original.
Do an epicly latered on this bunch of pioneers. I'd definitely check it out. I'd like to see the people before Mullen and Hawk
I hope skateboarding in the olympics follows this format.
Kory Hermann
Yes indeedy, but our sport is pretty complex these days. Flatland, street style ramps, vert ramps and slalom will hopefully the format. And maybe even huge distance and height comps too.
Also they should use the same uniforms and skateboards.
Kory Hermann 😂😂😂😂😂
@@Fanaz10 don't you forget bout the hairstyle
Wow I see Russ Howell I think.....I won in the Cadillac Bahne National Championships in 1976 in Salt Lake City
love watching Russ Howell- a superb athlete
Skitch Hitchcock also did Gorilla Grip jumps-his main stunt. I saw a demo of him in 1976 at Golf Mill, Niles, IL, age 11. Mom bought me his signature board-a flat fiberglass deck w/ urethane wheels, but loose bearings!
I liked how you called a skateboard trick a stunt, so old school!!! 😀
Desaray Von Esson I was in love... She eventually worked in the pro shop atbthe Endless Wave in Oxnard... she was SO sweet...this was my era then in the 80's it became all vert.
I like the fact that different disciplines challenged skaters like speed, jump and so on. Not „just“ best trick over/on something.
How much grass was smoked in that parking lot is what I wanna know. Lol
SMAKS EM SILLIFIED a lid of schwaaaag
1:11 I wore socks like these while cruising on my Quicksilver board. I’m 59 now and I’m cruising on an Element. I lost the socks.
Those boards are so small, and trucks so narrow, insane!
Funny but they seriously didnt feel that way back then. And that was back when grip tape was something you put on porch stairs. But looking back and still riding today yeah my ankles hurt just looking at them.
Just look how beautiful the people and material(check the gloves for example and shoes) and stuff was in comparison with the ugly every thing these days even the people style is fucking annoying from music to clothing to talking to living to the sharme of life
They should still do slalom racing, and both the long and high jump competitions
handstands should be compulsory again
1:44 Chad Muska's dad - Dad Muska
"Toe wheelies on the line." I lost it! Lol
California was still nice back then
1:25 Tom Delonge from the First Date music video :O
I am not a skateboarder but why has this vanished? I'd love to see especially an artistic interpretation, similar to ice skating. They obviously tried a lot of pioneer stuff but much is so nice. Why is all of this gone in modern skateboarding?
Freestyle is still out there if you know where to look! Please watch my video Freestyle Footwork as one modest example in recent years.
Because it wouldn't attract a significant audience
It's kinda crazy seeing this and noticing that at the time skateboarding was heading more towards popular culture than counter culture where it resided for a few decades. It took 44 years from this point to have skateboarding recognized as an Olympic sport, but I can help but think that it should have happened faster. I don't know why or exactly when, but somewhere along the line skateboarding went underground and stayed there for a good 25-30 years.
R.I.P. Ellen O'Neal - I will miss you.
and along came Jay Adams and everyone on here just stayed at home from that point on !
I had one of those G&S Fiberflex Slalom boards around 76-77
6:15 righteous as fuck with the disco ball chain, why did I miss this era!
Went to school with some of these people, one being Ellen Berryman, who went on to become a great field biologist, and who I'm proud to call a Facebook friend.
Thanks for posting! Post more if you got it
That blond dude with the stache rode for Hobie, I believe....Russ Howell? Man, I followed skateboarding and motocross so much in those days.
Still love my Road Riders #4!
9.30 mega babe...
This is waaay before my generation but growing up in SoCal everyone skated as a kid. Good times
7:08 until Rodney Mullen created the Ollie
Nose wheelie chick.. lol. Never did they think now we would be hitting 100' long rails, with 25 kinks down it..
"Hey , keep those boards off the lines!" "I can't DEED.
This is fascinating!
That handstand at 9:35 was pretty sick. Never seen someone go that far with their back.
Nornal in the dance world, but I'd never seen it done on a board until now.
Who's here 2020
"Improvements followed" is now my new way of summing up how something got better or more adaptive for others.
1:47 Tom Delonge's character from "First Date"
Still lives in his van
In a world where they tried to organize all fun out of skateboarding...
Awesome!!!!
This was awesome thank you! I'd love to get my hands on one of those G&S shirts...and a time machine!
When the ollie didn't exist and it was called a flip kick. Not a rail or any kind of pipe in sight.
You mean kickflip
@@romancandlefight1144 they called it a flipkick here and it looks different than a kickflip
Alan Gelfand created the ollie in 1976, the same year as this competition-He just wasn’t there.
Thank God for Dogtown.
How much coke doing is going on in there?
They only had Pepsi
Fantastic upload
The pole jumps are impressive.
Its kinda cool to see how skateboarding has advanced throughout the years
Jumping flower pots ! Not barrels !
That mongo pushes kills me
They should see it now...
Their tube socks would explode 🥴
9:42 Simply amazin tho
Ricky Martin wins the high jump
Lol wut if someone just ollied
Amazing archive footage, thank you for posting up.
bring the ballet back to freestyle! D: 👋🏻🎱👄🎱🤚🏻
Could show up, bust a inward heel flip, boom god
And nobody would give you credit ;)
Saying that alone tells how low your skateboard abilities are. I bet you can not kickflip on flat - standing.
@@oskargarden4559 oh right, I must just suck huh
Just show up with a modern board, period. Just do a simple ollie and win.
Jumping barrels. That was the trick to beat.
They had no idea then.
Notice NO cell phones..those were some great times back then
This comment makes no sense.
@@beatflyy it makes total sense. People actually paid attention to what Was going on around them and not just there phone
when snatch stank.
Where the fuck are the Z Boys?!?! They were already a team by 1973/74’. WTF?! Shred In peace Jay Boy. “Heroes get remembered.....BUT LEGENDS NEVER DIE”. (Sandlot ha). Team Pain til’ death motherfuckers. ☠️.....FTW.....☠️ …-VI-VI-VI-…
Non-contact competition
It's like when the Whright brother's flew they're first airplane.