I'm from '89 and I feel blessed I was able to watch his football matches. There will be no other R9 in future! It was a pleasure and motivation to watch the Fenomeno play. I feel pitty for the youth of those days that they weren't able to watch him play.
Soy del 87 y vi toda la carrera de R9 y Messi y no hay comparación, amigo mío, Messi fue superior desde su niñez. Quizás R9 lo supere por poco en fuerza, pero Messi no necesito tanta porque sus gambetas, técnica y velocidad son muy superiores. Por algo es el mejor de la historia, aunque mis favorito siempre fueron R9 y Maradona, pero seamos sinceros, Messi atravesó cualquier barrera que existía. No hay argumento que contradiga su contrastable.
Ronaldo Nazario was a phenomenon. Of all the strikers that I've seen play, he was the best for me. A player who was impressive on all fronts. Ronaldo is my hero. I loved to watch players like Zidane, Ronaldinho and Rivaldo, but Ronaldo is the best player I've ever seen. He was fast that the could score straight from kick-off. I've never seen someone touch the ball the way he did. - Lionel Messi said this in 2019.
LIE Messi called r9 the best ST ever. Which I agree with. He did not call him the best player ever And no player calls themselves the best ever Prime messi far more COMPLETE
@@diazromario7586 enough idiot... prime messi is more complete?? what are u smoking kids... say that again if messi can win ucl with psg n win wc with arg....dont just say something stupid as if u ever play at thier level kids....
@@albaniavlore715 Can you explain to me what makes Ronaldo Nazario so special? Everyone says he’s the best but personally I don’t see what makes him outstanding. I always felt he was an ordinary striker who’s reputation became way overblown after scoring in the 1998 Champions League final as well as a bunch of tap ins at the World Cup. He’s not really impressive at all.
Guys.. I’m honest. Ronaldo fenomeno is out of any ranking. Our eyes should be proud, because they will never see something like this. It is impossible to explain, even for those who watched him playing. It something that happens once in a lifetime. A Phenomenal after all...
@NMA 55 Nidhin Jobi Messi is the closes thing we ever seen to El Fenameno…but not better …but longevity wise yes …but both in their prime El Fenameno wins hands down
R9 is the best, the greatest of all time, no question about it. My mom and grandmother didn't even watch football, and they stayed up to watch him play in the WCs. He had the hearts and souls of only football fans, but people around the world, and that is truly amazing. After his last WC, I just felt like football is never the same again, that joy and that excitement.
Justin I am right behind you bro it isn't. Football has changed so much. I grew with players like R9, Ronaldinho, Zidane, Henry and Roberto Baggio the Joga bonito Era like I Love to call it. Back when players playing with passion. We were there to entertain the fans with beautiful magical football. But today players only play now for money. When they got there big salary is its over they aren't playing great anymore. The only player that entertain from football New Era is Messi. But Messi is now 35 and is leaving very soon.
That's laughable. Sure he has some good highlights but Messi did the magic literally every game at his peak. R9 didn't win Serie A (before his injuries) and he only won La Liga once (not with Barcelona) with team full of stars. Messi is a lot better than Ronaldo ever was. He really only shined at the World Cup, but again he was playing with an insane team that included Rivaldo, Ronaldinho, Cafu, Roberto Carlos
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Messi will go down as the greater & more accomplished player , but Ronaldo was not far behind. He was the best physical talent I’ve ever seen. A devastating dribbler who humiliated the greatest defenders to ever play. He won 4 FIFA Player Of The Year Awards before he turned 27. If not for his injury, he would’ve won even more & cemented his legacy as the greatest of all time.
Yup totally agree, no disrespect to Messi but I can't see him going to serie A of the 90's against defenders like Maldini, Cannavaro, Desailly, Thuram and Nesta without the protection from referees that attacking players get today and doing anywhere near as well as R9.
Wow. Very well said. Almost made me cry, mate. I cried when I saw his injury because I knew that he just wasn't going to be the same player after it. Thank you for your beautiful words recognizing the best forward, and one of the best footballers of all time.
Jorge Aguilar no not even Ramos so how do you think he can take Nesta, Maldini, Gattuso and other players in prime? You’re nothing more than just a fanboy of Messi
@@kingarsa1No he is not, Pele and This Ronaldo combined are not worth half of Messi. Messi 100 times better than Ronaldo. What Messi has achieved is untouchable. No one comes close to Messi. Maybe Cristiano is closer to him in terms or consistency and playing in high level for 20 years.
@@prosperosuagwuFifa also give r9 fack balon in 2002 r9 scored 9 goals and won wc but hanry won ucl, club wc, uefa cup and scored 30 goals ans 22 assist but fifa give him balon fifa also rigged because he given pele 2 wc and 1 wc for r9 which they don't deserve 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
+Communist1986 *"You were also as easily defeated as the other gu"..* bla, bla. ok.. if you want and trust in this.. but don't cry. say hello to your idol, mickey mouse che guevara.
Because he broke his knee and came back to be a World Champion, he claim his throne, that's greatness, to much talent in one person, in an era of to many stars, not like this last 10 years, crappy players, we can only save 15 players and that's much to say. Fenomeno we salute you.
*-"messi is called the goat snd the messiah.."-* (messiah.. ahaha, just big lol). says some pathetic asian or latino sh.itboy, whose nickname is *+messi the legend*. that's all your messi. with his 500 golden balls.
these are unbelievable players and it's hard to compare the two. However, I have to say that although Messi has unbelievable ball control, Ronaldo had scary dribbling skills. He could make something out of nothing any minute this is why I think he was the best. Messi is definitely more consistent than Ronnie was, but Ronaldo was truly out of this world. He was spectacular. He did things that no one still to this day has done. Messi more solid overall, but Ronaldo way more talented sorry but it's the truth. I think Ronaldo was the most talented player that has ever played the game.
Yeah, that's one of the reasons why Zidane finds he is the absolute best. He said that with Ronaldo , at training he was seing each day something new !
Some players cannot be compared with anyone because they are truly special and unforgettable. In their absence the world wouldn't be the same like it is now. El phenomenon is a player who fits rightly in that space.
@@blackgamer442 lol Messi has more goals than r9. And a higher goals per game ratio than cr7. So Messi has better finishing aswell. And Messi has more assists than all of them. So Messi for passing aswell He beats them all in every department
Ronaldo was the best player in times when the best 'defenders' on earth played(Thuram, Montero, Maldini, Nesta, Kannavaro, Staam, Carlos, Cafu) and also many others legends like Batistuta, Zidane, Rivaldo, Zamorano, Schevchenko, George Weah, Thiery Hanry, Berkamp, Del Piero, Totti... For me he is the best football player ever... It was really pleasure watching football those days!
Ohhh, so you remember the price of both at that time?? you seems more ridiculous tryng to be smart jajajajajaj must be fun be next to you.....go home and keep Crying, little wimp
@@miskandary Before injured he was the best playmaker in all sort such as speed,dribbles and etc ,he did his part form the beginning to end of match ....Even after injured he still proved himself to be best in the world at World cup 2002 and 2003 ,2004 (Real Madrid) despite his perfomance not as previous Ronaldo...After injured ,he just perform his ability some moments or as needed only and he just waiting for the ball to get passed,he save his stamina by just remaining at his position...that is the different between injured and non injured....However he was a phenomenon in the skills of scoring of all time in the football history, Messi didnt proof anything world cup as him...Messi good at Barcalona cox team members all are excellent,when extraordinary players all united,that team signaficantly Mass!!! During the time of Ronaldinho,Larrson,Eto,Giuly...Messi still at this team...but Eto usually known as best scorer while Ronaldinho as best midfielder,playmaker...After these gone, then only Messi known as the best....Messi is very good player but please dont compare him with legendary Ronaldo and Maradona...
Messi and el fenomeno one of the greatest ever. Runs ,acceleration,speed dribbling skills who do you prefer? My choice is always el fenomeno because I think he is with Maradona the best player ever:)
Someone in the comments says: it is very very very hard to stop messi, but it is impossible to stop el fenomeno. Well that's what i think, Ronaldo was unstoppable without injuries he would be the best ever, maldini,nesta,puyol, Carlos and so on, said they have never seen a player like him. For a reason...
"Someone in the comments says: it is very very very hard to stop messi, but it is impossible to stop el fenomeno. Well that's what i think, Ronaldo was unstoppable" Why didn't he score then in every game? You guys are delusional nostalgics.
@@christianespinoza6668 Ronaldo fue un fenómeno totalmente irrepetible.... Los 9 de hoy día pueden meter muchos goles conseguir records y estadísticas muy buenas, pero nunca tendrán ni el 1% de talento y magia que Ronaldo tuvo..... El fenómeno fue lo mejor y lo más grande que el fútbol tuvo
Messi: Matchs 815 Goals 612 Goal ratio 0.81 Assists 275 Ballon d or 6 Ronaldo: Matchs 542 Goals 358 Goal ratio 0.66 Assists 60 Ballon d or 2 Ronaldo can win 2 world cup because they are the best team in that era with the best player, like Ronaldinho Rivaldo Cafu ZeRoberto and etc. For people who still think Ronaldo is better, you just trap in your memories cause your nostalgic. Messi better than Ronaldo. No doubt :).
@@zenosama9407 better than Romario, Zico, Garrincha, Pelé? ...may be he could be in top 10. 1) Messi - Maradona - Pelé 9) Cruyff, Di Stéfano, Zico, Romario, Ronaldinho - Ronaldo - Bcekembauer
ronaldo dont need footbal philosophy like tiki taka, possesion or what ever, he dont even need a coach on a team... put ronaldo as a striker in any team,, pass the ball to him and we all know what's gonna happen.
same with Messi ...messi scored an incredible 91 goals in tiki taka when he was moved as a CF from false 9 ... It's fair to say he'll manage atleast 60 in any other system as a CF something which r9 hasn't done
Michael Fu there is thing which matters more than technique and talent and that is execution and Messi was the best in execution in 2012 the stats speak for themselves
Michael Fu you can add to that list and see Messi wins it passing - Messi intelligence- Messi team work- Messi & sorry I would prefer Messi in dribbling he has too much solo goals to deny that and apart from goals he has many dribbling runs too in which he dribbled the whole defence and missed the goal.
You cannot compare Messi to El Fenomeno. If Messi played against the defenders Ronaldo played against, he would not have been able to dribble passed them as easy. Football in Ronaldo's era was harder on strikers, defenders had more freedom to play rough against explosive players. Nowadays they get booked for ridiculous challenges, therefore its a lot easier for the likes of Messi who don't have physical strength. El Fenomeno was a complete striker, he had strength, speed, explosiveness, ridiculous acceleration, unstoppable dribble, equally good with both feet, header, powerful shot, extremely intelligent in the box and an endless arsenal of skills with which he mesmerised the fans and was an absolute nightmare for the defenders. A true Phenomenon - the only one who deserves that nickname. The greatest player of all time! P.S I forgot to mention that his comeback in the 2002 World Cup was the finest example of someone battling against the odds that I have ever seen... ever! After everything he went through, the two knee injuries after which he was given only 50% chance to play football again, for him to come back and become the top goalscorer in the history of the World Cup was truly phenomenal! God knows what he would have achieved had he not been injured... we can only ask ourselves... WHAT IF?!
yeah, and what about messis comeback? after losing the world cup in 2010, he completely dominated the next season winning 5 trophies, only 1 away from the treble and reached a level nobody has ever reached before. 2014, he lost the world cup FINAL, guess what, next season he reached a level nobody has ever reached again and won the treble. 2018 world cup, he lost again, but again, reached a level nobody has ever reached again and almost won the treble for the 3rd time. messi would easily dominate any era, to say that messi wouldnt dominate it is just dumb, youre just an r9 fanboy that cant except messis talent and that he is the greatest ever by far.
@@Stxmm you little kid. Numbers mean nothing when put against the incredible talent the Phenomenon had! If it was not for his injuries he would have achieved a lot more than Messi! Two years out of the game because of ruptured ligaments on his knee and he comes back and wins the World Cup becoming all time top scorer in the tournament - that is what you call a comeback! Messi never suffered an injury of that scale so what the hell are you talking about? Messi has always been looked after by Barcelona like a little kid. That’s why he never won anything significant outside of Barcelona! Even Maradona said it, that little Messi has no character. So you can shove your numbers up your ass and stfu. R9 before his injuries is the greatest talent football has ever seen, period!
@@stoyanvisuals the numbers do mean a lot dumbass, im not here to hate on R9, but messi is just so much better. even when they both were only 22, messi was so much better
Honestly over a career I would pick Messi. However if Ronaldo didnt have his knee injuries I would take Ronaldo. He til this day had the greatest season of any striker in history in 96-97 at 20 years old!
R9 and Messi , finally a fair comparison, My two all time favourites. They are in a class of their own. I prefer R9 however, his only weakness was the fact he was prone to injury. He was the perfect player (before he got a bit tubby lol even then he was still world class). At 20-22 R9 was already the best player in the world, not even messi can claim that. Its seriously scary to think how good R9 would've been if he made it to 27/28 healthy.
Single problem is that in his twenties Messi was the single player in history that won Balon D'Or 4 times in a row. But yeah, not even Messi can claim that. What in God name are you raving fanatics talking about?
given yes I made a mistake , Messi won his first ballon d'or at 22 and R9 at 21 so yes Messi can sort of claim that. What I mean is Ronaldo was putting up World class numbers at Psv when he was in his teens. Messi took slightly longer to reach world class numbers is what I sort of mean. One question tho, How am I a fanatic if clearly stated that Messi (alongside R9 ) Is my favourite player of all time?
It's easier to get first team in PSV and R9's Barca that was a contender for UEFA places, than in Messi's Barca. Actually Messi was very close to leaving Barca because he was not getting enough first team action. We are talking about a Barca that had Etoo, Xavi, Iniesta, Ronaldinho, Deco, Henry etc. Messi as a long time played as a substitute and was a winger before they understood how good he is. I also loved R9 and watched him from first to last game. Messi on the other hand, cannot be compared with anything. It's unexplainable how he became what he is and how he was very similar even since he was 8-9 years old. The quality of everything he does, the speed and the decisiveness is incredible. It's stunning to see how nobody can find an antidote for his game. His "secret" actually is that he is faster, smarter and more skilled than anyone on the field at any time. It was visible even from hist debut at 17 years when he chipped the keeper and the goal was wrongfully disallowed, then at the second occasion, he chipped the keeper again. No problem, why not... Although a modest person, he always knew he is the best and it's visible from the moment he had his first game. Henry and Puyol recount that at his first training with the team, his first action was dribbling everyone on the field and scoring.
Tbh i'm a big fan of lionel messi he is the best player in the world right now but there's not gonna be a next ronaldo (r9) he is the best player in the history of soccer
Ronaldo Nazario is the best Striker of all time... No doubt.. his speed, dribbling is incomparable. He played in the era of Best defenders like Maldini,Nesta and many more
I always think messi dribbled past more players but there are a lot of factors that can change that for example the time ronaldo played in maybe the defenders were better, also r9 looked way more natural and full flowing than messi
Messi needs Barcelona, Ronaldo makes any team great with your presence. Ronaldo played against Zidane, Rivaldo, Ronaldinho, Figo, Henry, Riquelme, Batistuta, Del Piero, Romario, Bergkamp... defenders like Stan, Maldini, Thuram, cannavaro, Nesta, Cafu, Redondo... The Golden ball in 90's and 2000 beginning was highly the most difficult than today.
No lie I agree but messi also played against nesta maldini cannavaro and destoyed them let’s not forget the 19 year old messi with the long hair bruhhh
This is probably the smartest comment section I have ever encountered with. I never saw a player who made Messi look not so much of a threat. And this is a guy who played just 50% of his expectation. Messi is indeed the last magician living and we should be honored to watch him play but Ronaldo is just something else. An animal, a beast. Someone who would drop back to the defence, win back the ball and go all the way by himself. He was a complete player who God gave all there is, strength, power, speed, acceleration, finishing. He didn't care who he faced as he just demolished them. He was a living nightmare to both the defence and goalkeepers. I would rather face 100 Messi's than one Ronaldo 9 in his prime. And I say this in no disrespect to Messi.
Neymar its a magician as well, Neymar has more dribbling capability than most of brazilian legends and Im saying this being a brazilian who's extremely fan of Ronaldo R9 El Fenomeno.. Hopefully now and then we'll be able to see players as Messi and Neymar, specially coming from South America.
@@tambemacho4891 Neymar is a skill magician, True. But on dribling, speed, power, and goal instinct, no comparison with R9. They definitely aren't on the same level.
Ronaldo en su mejor momento abusaba de sus rivales, los humillaba por completo, y pobre los arqueros siempre terminaban comiendo cesped ante Ronaldo, Ronaldo fue tan impresionante que Oliver Kahn y Buffon le tenían miedo....
@@Kamiiikaseee te pregunto cuántos balones de oro le regalaron a Messi, otra cosa en el Barcelona todos jugaban para el, en el PSG no sobresalió fue uno más. Cómo se dice se destapó la olla cuántos campeonatos ganó de forma fraudulenta eso da para pensar
Ronaldo tem 2 bola de ouro merecida diferente do messi e ronaldo tem mais copas do mundo e outra em questão de habilidade ronaldo fenomeno na posição e literalmente melhor que Messi ou Cristiano ronaldo, Ronaldo não tem comparação ele esta em outro patamar@@Kamiiikaseee
@@D95RO r9 2 copa do mundo sendo uma artilheiro, no dia que cr7 ganhar uma copa sendo artilheiro vindo de lesões seria no joelho aí vc pode comparar seu nutela
Sin lugar a dudas Messi es el mejor del mundo. Y realmente no hay quien le equipare (cr7 hace rato que perdió nivel). Pero R9 es sin dudas mucho mejor que Messi. Tenia todo bueno: fue rápido (demasiado), potencia (demasiado), sabía jugar en 1 metro cuadrado como tambien hacer dribling en velocidad (cosa que ni Dinho era capaz de hacer). Sabía aprovechar espacios, enfrentarse a 1 defensa como fabricarse espacios y enfrentar a 5 defensas... Ronaldo para mi (subjetivamente hablando) es el mejor de la historia, sobre Pele y Maradona.
Tienes toda la razón Ronaldo " El Fenomeno " es el mejor jugador de la historia porque siendo delantero, jugaba pero jugaba como 10 nato, porque siempre cuando le daban el balón tenia a un jugador encima desde el area contraria ni siquiera en el área ofensiva donde el debía de estar, un jugador completo porque también ayudaba a sus compañeros desde su campo, con una potencia única y la velocidad que imprimía era de un Dios que asustaba a todo jugador y el balón de fútbol casi insuperable para el mismo, ni se diga del Driblin, la tecnica depurada, el amague de cintura, el quiebre, las famosa bicicleta, la definición, estoy seguro que debi haber anotado mas de 2000 goles si no se hubiere lesionado, por eso en su momento o Rey Pelé se sintio superado, ni se diga Maradona, y tampoco hay comparación con Messi, por el Argentino solo jugo bien en el Barcelona con jugadores como Xavi e Iniesta de lo contrario mmmmmm.
Discrepo totalmente,R9 no es mejor que Messi en absolutamente nada,ahh si en una cosa es que el tiraba freestyle cosa que Messi es un jugador mucho mas basico, despues en goles,asistencias,vision de juego etc Messi es muchisimo mas superior.
Seeing this video between the "Fenómeno" and Messi., I have no doubt that the "Fenómeno" was better ... more strength, more power, much more creative when it comes to dribbling, that's why he is a player that we will not see in a long time equal to him.
Messi had better dribbling, agility, passing, finishing, playmaking, freekicks, goalscoring, won way more trophies, and 6 ballondors with 6 golden boots. Dont compare them
@@juliaazevedo1890 *Messi al lado de Ronaldo es un sobrevalorado* *Ronaldo es mucha más jugador y sus movimientos con el cuerpo* *Maradona igualmente es más jugador que Messi*
messi play whit the best squad in the history and in spain the phenomenon play in the serie a age 90 the best difficulty and beautiful soccer in the history ronaldo in this barcellona is illegal in this time
Matteo Bonomi Ronaldo played WCs with the best squad. Ronaldinho, RIvaldo, Cafu, Roberto Carlos, Kaka, etc. Messi at 26, already had more goals and assists than R9 ON HIS ENTIRE CAREER. Messi is more complete, because he's also a PLAYMAKER and free kicktacker. Messi is also more consistent, by far. So your opinion is based on dogs shit and nostalgia.
How can he be the best at club level if he never won the Copa Libertadores or Champions League. If one wins a World Cup then the club accolades should not matter in terms of hierarchy. He was a phenomenon because no one ever saw a footballer do what he could do. Same with a number of other players. After that it is just preference. Football is a facet that consists of so many different components and since every single person on this planet is different in regards to thought process. Different skills and techniques will appeal to different people . To some it is about scoring goals, assisting, passing, play-making, dribbling and timing. There have been a handful of players throughout history who have mastered a number of these arts. However name me just ONE other than Messi who excelled in all these to the extent that he can be labelled a complete passer or play maker or goal scorer. Its primitive to say R9 was the best striker in history because he was way more than that.
As a young football fan,I’m biased towards Messi.I always thought he was better than legends like Pelé,Cruyff,Zidane,Ronaldinho and maybe even Maradona.But if there is one player that has more talent than him,it has to be R9.He was a beast in his teen years.Absolutely fascinating to watch.I wonder what he would have become without all those injuries and health problems.
No bro... R9 was something special... But i think you forget.. Messi is playmaker and scorer at same time... Its impossible... R9 was too good and similar to messi, but how much messi make football so simple.. Nobody can do that...
Messi es un excelente jugador, más su fútbol es en el automático. Es en la base de la correría y los cortes secos a velocidad. Cualquier persona puede notar que el Ronaldo fenómeno driblava de hecho, no era sólo en la base de la correría y cortes secos. El gingaba, pasaba pluma, su fútbol era más alegre, más desarrollado, puro arte. Mira los golpes que no eran sólo de dentro del área. ¿Cuántas camisetas Ronaldo jugó bien, y Messi cuántas ?? ¿Cuántas veces? . Tanto Messi como Cr7 jugaron en su zona de confort. Quería ver brillar el mismo fútbol en otros equipos como lo hizo Ronaldo. Ronaldo jugó bien donde pasó, y sólo fue parado por las lesiones y mira que incluso con ellas, fue 3 veces el mejor del mundo y ganó 3 copas del mundo. Incluso al final de la carrera todo gordo, su magia del fútbol nunca murió. Quiero ver si al final de carrera ambos van a jugar lo que jugó ?? . Basta ver sus goles por el Corinthians, cada pintura. Que van. El fenómeno ganó ese apodo no fue a toa, él era de hecho ILUMINADO, hay muchos craques por ahí, más fenómeno sólo existe 1 !!!!
Solo quieres qué Messi se baya del barça porque seguro eres del Madrid siempre usan ese argumento para meter pesion para ver si el jugador se va recuerda qué si algo te sale bien en un lugar porque te vas a ir no tendria lógica a Messi le a salido casi todo bien en Barcelona seria estúpido marcharse mientras que ronaldo no siempre triunfo y tenia qué ser vendido si fuera sido tan bueno como Messi hubiera durado más en el Madrid ya que como sabemos el Madrid solo tiene a los mejores y cuando dejas de serlo te vas hací mismo en otros club si ya no eres bueno te vas y punto así qué si cambio tanto de equipo fue por algo no por nada termino retirándose al más bajo nivel y en el corinthians mientras seguro Messi se retirara en el barça porqué siempre se a mantenido a un buen nivel a pesar de su edad
Lika Kalls2 y fútbol de leo toda vía es mejor y más perfecto quizas no tan alegre cómo dices pero si más perfecto ya qué es capaz de romper todo un esquema de juego el solo tiene mejor regate quizás lo qué Messi le falté sean fintas pero para que hacer tantas jugadas innecesaria si en un dribling te puedo dejar totalmente roto y no gasto tanto tiempo qué haciendo una jugada de más y perderla ósea qué en eso leo es más sabio qué prefieres el divertinage o la perfección yo desde luego la perfección recuerda que quizás el divertinage sea agradable etc pero toda borrachera tiene su mareo me explique pero el camino más cercano al éxito es la perfección y quizas por eso Messi ha conseguido más títulos colectivo e Individuales que Tu Fenómeno recuerda qué fenomenos hay unos Pero D10S no tiene límite ni Comparación ni Sustitución D10S es D10s y no hay nada qué hacer 👌
Yo no soy del Madrid pero sería bueno ver jugar a Messi en otro club ya que cuando juega en la selección no demuestra ni la mitad de lo que demuestra en el Barcelona, Ronaldo el Fenómeno fue un astro en todos sus clubes y en la selección, si no lo vieron jugar no hablen, sólo basta con que vean los comentarios y se darán cuenta que de cada 100 que vimos jugar a R9 el Fenómeno y vemos a Messi, 90 sabemos que el fenómeno fue mucho mejor, Ronaldo el fenómeno sufrió una lesión de rotura parcial de ligamentos que lo dejó 6 meses fuera de las canchas, el día de su regreso se lesiona de nuevo, esta vez rotura TOTAL de ligamentos que lo dejó más de un año fuera de las canchas, volver y salir campeón del mundial, goleador del mundial y marcar los dos goles en la final frente al mejor arquero del mundo en esa época para que su equipo se consagre campeón DEL MUNDO!!! Cuando el pecho frío haga eso hablamos, no lo hizo en la final del 2014 con sus 2 rodillas buenas mucho menos lo haría después de una lesión de tal magnitud jajajaja no sean tan ignorantes, y el gordito Ronaldo también sufría de la tiroides por lo cual su peso aumentaba considerablemente y aún así gordo y todo era una máquina, si no hubiera sido por estos problemas Ronaldo el fenómeno tal vez sería el mejor de la historia pero aún así le alcanzó para ser el tercero mejor de la historia y el mejor delantero de área (9) de la historia, Messi le falta mucho, si van a hablar de fútbol primero investiguen un poco ignorantes!!!
¿Se jubiló en el más bajo nivel ???? que es lo que el CORINTHIANS es algún TIME PEQUEÑO de Brasil mi hijo. Busque, va detrás de la información antes de cualquier cosa. ¡Este mismo equipo tiene 2 MUNDIALES FIFA !! . Este mismo equipo empató con Real Madrid en 2000, ese mismo equipo GANADO de CHELSEA, que detonó el barcelona de la Champions en 2012. El propio Corinthians tiene más hinchada que el propio Barça, digo torcida y no simpatizantes que incluyen al barcelona como otro equipo que les gusta. En el caso de que se trate de un jugador de fútbol, el jugador de la selección brasileña, Ronaldo, ha ganado todos los premios que un jugador de fútbol busca. Y que no se sienten como si estuvieran en el mismo lugar. Ronaldo tiene el cariño de varias torcidas, porque su fútbol no se limitó a un TIME. Ningún equipo demetió ronaldo, Ronaldo que quería ir a otros equipos. PQ Justamente él quería hacer de HECHO UNA CARRERA diversificada. Ronaldo es referencia qd se habla de qué mejor jugador ha visto jugar, Ronaldo VIROU LENDA. Messi y Cr7 entraron en una era, de disputa de apenas 2 craques, 2 cracks esclavos de sus equipos, de su zona de confort. En realidad me gustaría verlos en otros equipos, para ver si el rendimiento sería el mismo en varias temporadas.
Messi: Matchs 815 Goals 612 Goal ratio 0.81 Assists 275 Ballon d or 6 Ronaldo: Matchs 542 Goals 358 Goal ratio 0.66 Assists 60 Ballon d or 2 Ronaldo can win 2 world cup because they are the best team in that era with the best player, like Ronaldinho Rivaldo Cafu ZeRoberto and etc. For people who still think Ronaldo is better, you just trap in your memories cause your nostalgic. Messi better than Ronaldo. No doubt :).
To be more "unpredictable" doesn't justify a higher status. Personally I would give the edge to Messi. The frequency of his dribbling is unprecedented.
This vídeo was made to put Messi above R9! The best moves, runs, goals of R9 arent here! But you cant change what he did, R9 was much more amazing than Messi.
N.S.M. If you´re going to give much importance to the stats, even CR7 is better than Messi, so be careful for what you wich! In what concerns R9 and the teams he represented, his 2 best seasons were 1996-1997 and 1997-1998, where he played for Barcelona and Inter Milan, at that time two teams that were very far away from the Barcelona of Pep Guardiola or the actual team of Barcelona! In terms of national teams, i dont think there is much difference between the Brasilian national team and the Argentinan national team, justo look at the talents that Argentina has! Sorry, i´ve been aroung seeing football for quite some time, you´re arguments arent so good as you think!
N.S.M. No i cant say R9 was a playmaker, he was a 9! Obvious! Again and for the last time, the kind of magic, imagination and brilliance i saw in R9 when he was playing at his best, i never saw in any player, before or after him! In that sense, for me, he was the best! That doesnt mean he is the best ever if we want to analyse every criteria, or if we want to compare stats!
The difference between the defenders against Ronaldo and those against Messi is completely absurd, the defenders who marked Messi looked like amateurs compared to those who marked Ronaldo.
@@mandm7878 Prime Ronaldo was a much more dangerous player than any version of Messi. Injuries ruined his career, but at his prime (if we can eve call that a prime, because he was only 20) he was the very best. Messi with R9's injuries wouldn't even be a pro player.
Love Messi! but R9 is the most impressive player i have ever seen! he invented new tricks every training, every Game. According to Zidane its really true. Pure Magic. Messi is more predictable,however more effective all-round. Ronaldo had 3 major injuries taking him for 3 career years out. he could easily have won 5,6,7,8 ballon d'or if it wasn't for his heavy knee injuries. Having that said, in a era with many competitors at high level. like Zidane, Figo, Henry, Rivaldo, Ronaldinho..etc... btw...this videos doesn't show Ronaldo's best techniques.
Le dribble de messi est exceptionnel. Ballon collé au pied avec de tout petits pas. Il semble ne faire aucun effort en dépassant les autres. On ne sait même pas comment il a fait pour passer. Le football avec lui semble encore plus facile. A noter que physiquement et en tant que rapidité il est moins fort que R9 qui demeure une légende dont messi avait dit s'inspirer.
Kamal Chitnalah comparing messi to ronaldo is disrespect? 😂 kid, wtf are you talking about. u fucking kids now a day know shit about players. i bet u r penaldo s fan. u mite say in your opinion ronaldo is better than messi, but for u to said that comparing them is disrespecting ronaldo, u must have no idea what u r talking about. messi gets compared to only maradona, that is it. no one else. if it was me that wrote what u said, i would hang myself
if you actually compare all their matches, i believe messi is more consistent than ronaldo in their matches, like ronaldo would lose the ball dribbling and messi kind of doesnt lose the ball, he's smarter
@@mrtheonexx8749 He said best player , not best career or stats. Messi is the goat career , his circumstances were different to R9 , much tougher era , with less REF support , Messi got kicked , but not as much as R9 , because the rules are more protective off attackers today. How would Messi do in Serie A in the 90s ? How would prime R9 do in Peps Barca? No one knows.
the difference between each era, now the laws are trying to protect strikers, no more brutal tackle, for those brutal tackle at Ronaldo era, they must get red card immediately instead of yellow or just be ignored..
@@MrBanhmikem true and in Pelé's era yellow and red cards didn't even existed, the man won 3 World Cups being brutalized in the pitch without cards in football's rules. Nowadays football rules are extremely protective and defenders are extremely limited due to not being able to risk that much of precise tackles and dirty-play.
that is true. Messi generation and CR7 are the weakest one. the competition was between the two. so, it is no wonder they got all these easy ballon' do or!
See Ramos, Pepe and Atletico players. Of course it was not that nasty compared to old times, but for today’s standarts Messi was fouled badly many times, you can search horror tackles on Messi
lo explicare mejor, ronaldo nos hizo enamorarnos del futbol, se enfrento a los mejores defensas de la historia, revoluciono por completo el futbol, la mitad del planeta que no veia futbol .....lo vio gracias a el. Nunca necesito del mejor equipo del mundo para brillar, gano TODO, mundiales TODO, y por ultimo ...los que vimos al fenomeno jugar en sus mejores momentos y los que vemos a messi siempre coincidimos en algo, RONALDO SIEMPRE TUVO ALGO QUE NO SE PUEDE EXPLICAR CON PALABRAS.
Oswald Gonzalez : Coincido plenamente con tu comentario. RONALDO en su momento fué un millón de veces más grandioso que Messi y que cualquier deportista del mundo. Su genialidad ,su velocidad ,su técnica indescifrable era desproporcionada en comparación a los demás.Puedo decir que las jugadas más impresionantes las ví en los pies de Ronaldo. Su época se fué para NO volver nunca más y dejarnos un vacío que nadie volverá a cubrir ,sólo él. Donde sea que esté mi ídolo Ronaldo le desearé lo mejor del universo por haberme hecho tan féliz viendole jugar.
Oswald Gonzalez exacto tenia una potencia velocidad y magia siempre los defensas iban con todo para derribarlo y ni asi lo podian parar era dificil no mirarlo y no imitarlo desgraciadamente lo unico que pudo pararlo fue su propio cuerpo inigualable
Oswald Gonzalez me llegó al corazón ❤ yo que ni veía fútbol, fueron sus jugadas que desde niña me mantuvo impactada , ha decir verdad los jugadores antiguos ponian alma , corazon y vida jasta en sus selecciones ,no solo en sus clubes , por eso eran los mejores porque lo ganaron todooo.
Stupid mind. Messi is better mainly in dribbling, if u dont wanna see it your problem. Where Ronaldo has maybe a little better characteristics is speed!
What impressed me is the fact that R9 is actually a big bloke. Hes 6ft whereas messi is 5'6 with very low centre of gravity and yet ive never seen anyone with R9s dribbling ability. Also he was more skilfull but much more powerful. Insane running power and upper body strength. Literally so complete he could do anything with the ball
bro, i am so happy that you can see that, honestly I am bored with idiot fans who said Messi is better, Cr7 is better, fuking sh!t Messi is good, but just good in this generation, but at his level, I can put him same boat with Rivaldo, Ronaldinho, but R9? no no, It is fuking NO. And Cr7? nope, he is just same as FIGO
@@MrBanhmikem Most of them are Dutch or argentinians not to mention people living at the barcelona district. Most of them says Maradona and Messi. They cant see the truth and always ignore it.
@@MrBanhmikem people forget at 20 R9 was robbed of a Balon D’or by 1 vote. Still won one the following year and the youngest ever. He was headed to pure dominance and suddenly one of the worst days in football, the dreaded knee injury. Messi has CR7 to compete with, but R9 was pure dominance.
@@MrBanhmikem wtf man? 😂we can compare R9 with Messi is finishing and dribbling still messi is better in that debate o then k what about playmaking, vision, accuracy?
@@lapulgamagic8386 better than? while he drib pass Middlefield? while he is protected by the nowaday laws? while R9 drib pass best defenders there in best league? compare my ass. Playmaking? Accuracy? R9 proved he has them all, check this ruclips.net/video/BFvbopj3Vlg/видео.html when he is played as number 10 in INTER, the next year he became number 9 and be their main striker, and wtf? who need pass anymore if he can "crushed" defenders instead of lure them around? and what about height? strength? acceleration? shot power? compare? compare to your father maybe...
Messi es Messi... y pasará a la historia como un icono del Barcelona... tiene un muy buen control a alta velocidad, dribbling y gol... pero solo sabe usar la zurda, y una vez que arranca no sabe parar... En cambio Ronaldo........ ambidiestro... control total del balón, la pisa, hace túnel, arranca, se detiene, hace una o dos bicicletas, vuelve a arrancar... tiene un repertorio muy amplio de manejo del balón: muchos recursos... nunca se achicó ante ni un rival y ni una camiseta... Y lo más importante: Campeón del mundo. No se si le dijeron en la final de 2002 que jugaría contra el mejor arquero del mundo, pero él le metió 2!!
@@antonioching2432 el que no sabe parar es Messi, Ronaldo frenaba amagaba o tiraba un caño y volvia a acelerar a toda velocidad dejando a cualquier defensor que se le cruzara en el suelo hasta a los arqueros los hacia comer cesped..
@@martin.azcurra5998 No sabe para dice jajajajaja, una cosa es pasar y no querer parar para poder seguir gambeteando y otra cosa es gambetear, frenar y volver a gambetear como lo hace siempre pero, pero sos ciego y no ves nada
@@paulodybala4234 Messi elude hacia los lados frena y acelera de nuevo... Ronaldo aceleraba a toda velocidad, gambetea deja al rival en el suelo y despues acelera de nuevo...
you have 0.001% chance to have another messi in next 50 years but you will never get another R9.. you will never get a 6ft striker who scores 1st goal dribbling past 3 defenders with Right foot then same with left foot and the 3rd straight from the midfield cutting through entire defense line with sheer acceleration and brutal physical strength...El fenomeno..
Dekkoo I Another kid trying to be rebellious by saying old players are better than current ones. I watched both at their best. Messi is the best in history, that simple. R9 is in the top 7 of all time.
Ronaldo fenomeno. No one else has nick name fenomeno. He was the first modern footballer that started everything you know today in football. All those fancy boots, R9 was the first one to wear those colored ones and all the fancy tricks…He was the king of the 90’s and early 2000’s. If he had not so many injuries and if he was a better “athlete” NOBODY would catch his records just like nobody can replicate his phenomenal physical movement. Unique player. Best striker of all times.
mesi es fabricacion ,el fenomeno era inventiva pura,el tipo aparecia hasta en las finales y no solamente en un partido de liga,eso quiere decir que mesincopa es mas sobrevalorado,dan risa los fanboys tarados de mesi,dicen saber de futbol cuandono saben ni un joraka osea nada,payasos.
Keep Calm Es incomparable el caminante de finales , al lado del fenómeno ! Tiene que comprar huevos ese HDP primero para compararlo al gordo Ronaldo ! Lo quieren comparar a Maradona, Ronaldinho , Riquelme , Zidane , y no hermano es un producto de la Playstation , sin sangre , carácter , huevos etc etc , juega en el Barcelona , ahí es un fenómeno , no comparen por favor , no le ata los cordones a los fenómenos que te nombre !
@@gabourizk1 in YOUR opinion MAJORITY of the world disagrees. I follow MAJORITY And r9 in his prime was a striker/scorer. Messi in his prime was more than a scorer. MORE GIFTED. MORE COMPELTE. He had better passing vision, more assists, better dribbling and SCORING despite being a winger.
Felicito a Messi y a Maradona por todo lo que han ganado son grandísimos futbolistas; PERO NO SE COMPAREN NUNCA CON EL FENÓMENO, ÉL ES ÚNICO, FUE UN CAPRICHO DE LOS DIOSES Y ESO YA LO HACE SOBRENATURAL
Soy argentino, amo el fútbol y a mí selección Argentina, y no me importa que me critiquen los de mí país, pero para mí Ronaldo Nazario fue el mejor jugador que vi en mí vida y fue el mejor de todos... Ronaldo fue el fenómeno del fútbol mundial ⚽❤️
No hay comparacion alguna, el Fenomeno Ronaldo es un Dios del futbol, lo mas parecido a Pele. Messi gran jugador, uno de los mejores que he visto. Ronaldo la magia se fue con el, no he visto ningun jugador driblear como el, en un metro cuadrado y sin carrera, era maravilloso lo que hacia, nadie se le iguala solo Pele.
POR FAVOR, NO HAY COMPARACION.... los que vimos jugar al fenómeno sabemos que esta entre los tres mejores de la historia. y si no hubiera sido por las lesiones que lo persiguieron, estaríamos hablando del n°1.
@@maxsavage3998 Ronaldo Nazario demostró nivel en todos los clubes en los que jugó, es bicampeón del mundo y bicampeón de América con Brasil, y todo eso con una sola rodilla.l y con hipertiroidismo.....
@@maxsavage3998 acaso Messi le gana técnicamente, tiene más velocidad, paso por más equipos que R9? 🤔 por favor R9 gano el mundial siendo goleador y mejor jugador ⚽ y con una rodilla, a nivel de selección R9 tuvo mejor carrera que Messi, aparte en condiciones, manera de jugar y talento R9 es mejor y con mucha diferencia.
No hables estupideces queres, a Messi ya van varias veces que lo quieren partir. Ya contra Venezuela casi le terminan la carrera con una patada que le hubiera terminado la carrera a cualquiera.
La diferencia es que Messi es como un Maradona pero menos rústico y con menos liderazgo, y Ronaldo fue un fenómeno nunca antes visto que cambio el fútbol para siempre....
Maldini, De Boer, Thuram, Cannavaro, Nesta, Ayala, Puyol, Stam había cada asesino en la época de Ronaldo, a Messi lo marcan una generación de defensores que no tienen instinto asesino, el único defensor picante que enfrentó Messi es Sergio Ramos y nadie más.....
El mundo extrana a un jugador irrepetible.un jugador humilde aun siendo el mejor de la historia aunque lo quieran negar.TE EXTRANAMOS RONALDO NAZARIO(FENOMENO) cristiano es cristiano.messi es messi.pero ronaldo es EL FENOMENOOOOOOOOOO
Go whatch how Maldini, Nesta and Cannavaro got humiliated by Tierry Henry in Euro 2000's Final. Go watch how Suerez (with Ajax) and Messi fucked Nesta in 2011/2012 CL. Messi the most talented and best player of all time would beat any defender he wants to beat so stop with your cheap crap
Henry was another great player, Messi humiliated Nesta when she was already at the end of career, Ronaldo is better than Messi, if he had not been hurt would have been 5 times the world's best, Ronaldinho was another genius, to 15 years behind the level of football was another my little friend!
R9 is the most gifted player in history to bad he get injured but we all know he was the best because he is still the youngest player in history to win ballon d'or in the golden era of football so that means something when you have so many stars in that time and he was so much ahead he was just brilliant. GOAT
@@beny6138 this video has no footage from the best of what messi done over the year, not even close. R9 entire career at his best was only 2-3 years before he got that horrific injury, after the injury he ain't even close compare to messii.
Francisco G Ni que Messi fuese un jugador que no ha demostrado absolutamente nada. Leo los comentarios y ya parece que Messi es sólo una promesa al lado de Ronaldo jjaja
@@martin.azcurra5998 Si lo vi jugar, y era explosividad pura en sus años en el Barça y en el Inter y poco más. Pero las lesiones y las fiestas (mujeres) mermaron bastante su desempeño.
@@manuelnavarro5267 el hipertiroidismo arruino la carrera de Ronaldo, Ademas yo pienso que Messi no es tan inferior a Ronaldo, al contrario pienso que Messi es lo mas parecido a Ronaldo que eh visto..
A little background, R9 at the age of 24 had a major injury and stayed out of the pitch for one year and a half before returning again and scoring 8 goals on world cup and winning it. Messi is a fantastic player for sure and it is really amazing watching him play incredible football. But stop comparing him to the phenomenon who even though was seriously injured more times showed the world that he was there and delighted us with his skills over and over again. And talk about personalities between the two? ronaldo wins hands down
PSV, Barca, and Inter R9 was and still is the most dominant force ever to step foot on a pitch. He was out of this world unstoppable. Never seen anything like it, and probably never will.
Nesta in his prime could not contain R9, while the aging Nesta is still able to contain messi. This speaks volume about the force of nature that is the Phenomenon.
That's my point, old Nesta was 36 years old at the time and playing his last years at AC Milan and still manage to contain a peak 24 year old Messi in some moments at that match. Now imagine what an absolute peak Nesta can do to him. If you feel proud just because a peak Messi manage to beat an old Nesta then go on ahead.
you are literally in every nesta vs messi dispute! It looks like you have some messi vs nesta detector!!! Hahahahahaha The difference between Nesta vs Messi and Nesta vs R9 is that Nesta stopped messi, and nesta didn't stop R9. Get over yourself Messi only scored by penalties against Nesta!!!!
msanm5 Yes, but I'm saying Nesta also stopped Messi. There are many clips that shows it, many sport articles saying how the slide tackle on Messi was one of the best tackles in history and it shows the quality of a world class defender. Without a doubt if you go to 1000 people (assuming they are both Nesta and Messi fan) and say that messi trampled nesta, they'd tell you, you don't know football. The reputation given between these two is that Nesta stopped more times Messi, than Messi passed Nesta. And no not very easily otherwise their matches wouldn't end as 0-0, 0-1, 2-2, 1-1, 2-1, 1-0, 3-2.
I'm from '89 and I feel blessed I was able to watch his football matches. There will be no other R9 in future! It was a pleasure and motivation to watch the Fenomeno play. I feel pitty for the youth of those days that they weren't able to watch him play.
You make a very valid point, I agree with you 100%.
I think Brazil might produce are R9 type player without the injuries in the future.
Soy del 87 y vi toda la carrera de R9 y Messi y no hay comparación, amigo mío, Messi fue superior desde su niñez. Quizás R9 lo supere por poco en fuerza, pero Messi no necesito tanta porque sus gambetas, técnica y velocidad son muy superiores. Por algo es el mejor de la historia, aunque mis favorito siempre fueron R9 y Maradona, pero seamos sinceros, Messi atravesó cualquier barrera que existía. No hay argumento que contradiga su contrastable.
Ronaldo Nazario was a phenomenon. Of all the strikers that I've seen play, he was the best for me.
A player who was impressive on all fronts.
Ronaldo is my hero. I loved to watch players like Zidane, Ronaldinho and Rivaldo, but Ronaldo is the best player I've ever seen.
He was fast that the could score straight from kick-off. I've never seen someone touch the ball the way he did.
- Lionel Messi said this in 2019.
Ok..The debate ended here..😀
LIE
Messi called r9 the best ST ever. Which I agree with. He did not call him the best player ever
And no player calls themselves the best ever
Prime messi far more COMPLETE
@@diazromario7586 don't tell me a liar, in any case tell Messi a liar, Messi was the one who said what I put in the comment, not me....
@@martin.azcurra5998 you LIED, Messi didnt say this, he didn't call r9 the best player ever
He called Messi the best ST ever
@@diazromario7586 enough idiot... prime messi is more complete?? what are u smoking kids... say that again if messi can win ucl with psg n win wc with arg....dont just say something stupid as if u ever play at thier level kids....
Ronaldo simply the best!
The fact that every single comment on here is a praise to R9 is mind blowing. Love it.
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Can you explain to me what makes Ronaldo Nazario so special? Everyone says he’s the best but personally I don’t see what makes him outstanding. I always felt he was an ordinary striker who’s reputation became way overblown after scoring in the 1998 Champions League final as well as a bunch of tap ins at the World Cup. He’s not really impressive at all.
@@USMNTsoccerELITE lmao good joke
Because people just go off nostalgia. But professionals, analysts and messis records tell you he is better.
@@diazromario7586 good joke bro
Guys.. I’m honest. Ronaldo fenomeno is out of any ranking. Our eyes should be proud, because they will never see something like this. It is impossible to explain, even for those who watched him playing. It something that happens once in a lifetime. A Phenomenal after all...
Pareja Portana I just have to like your comment people should Happy with your comment that's just a fact what you just said
Brasil Rinaldo my choice..
I remember when I first saw Ronaldo... I could not believe what I was seeing. He was just unstoppable. A phenomenon.
@Wicked Fella Yes indeed. But we will never forget those moments and clips like this one help to keep dreaming for some minutes. :)
@NMA 55 Nidhin Jobi Messi is the closes thing we ever seen to El Fenameno…but not better …but longevity wise yes …but both in their prime El Fenameno wins hands down
Messi is one of the best of all time but Ronaldo de Lima is a phenom that no one could match so far . he is the best striker ever in my opinion.
Ronaldo i fenomeno
R9 is the best, the greatest of all time, no question about it. My mom and grandmother didn't even watch football, and they stayed up to watch him play in the WCs. He had the hearts and souls of only football fans, but people around the world, and that is truly amazing. After his last WC, I just felt like football is never the same again, that joy and that excitement.
Justin I am right behind you bro it isn't. Football has changed so much. I grew with players like R9, Ronaldinho, Zidane, Henry and Roberto Baggio the Joga bonito Era like I Love to call it. Back when players playing with passion. We were there to entertain the fans with beautiful magical football. But today players only play now for money. When they got there big salary is its over they aren't playing great anymore. The only player that entertain from football New Era is Messi. But Messi is now 35 and is leaving very soon.
maradona>r9
@@gourmondal5812 Of Maradona too bro of course. Zico . Man I miss that time of football.
That's laughable. Sure he has some good highlights but Messi did the magic literally every game at his peak. R9 didn't win Serie A (before his injuries) and he only won La Liga once (not with Barcelona) with team full of stars. Messi is a lot better than Ronaldo ever was. He really only shined at the World Cup, but again he was playing with an insane team that included Rivaldo, Ronaldinho, Cafu, Roberto Carlos
Thứ bóng đá sau khi rolando delima không đá nữa là sự tẻ nhạt. Những thiên vị của trọng tài. Và những toan tính của fifa những cuộc bầu trọn không công bằng
Ronaldo .. the best EVER
Messi will go down as the greater & more accomplished player , but Ronaldo was not far behind. He was the best physical talent I’ve ever seen. A devastating dribbler who humiliated the greatest defenders to ever play. He won 4 FIFA Player Of The Year Awards before he turned 27. If not for his injury, he would’ve won even more & cemented his legacy as the greatest of all time.
Yup totally agree, no disrespect to Messi but I can't see him going to serie A of the 90's against defenders like Maldini, Cannavaro, Desailly, Thuram and Nesta without the protection from referees that attacking players get today and doing anywhere near as well as R9.
Wow. Very well said. Almost made me cry, mate. I cried when I saw his injury because I knew that he just wasn't going to be the same player after it. Thank you for your beautiful words recognizing the best forward, and one of the best footballers of all time.
Well said ....R9 #1
Sam Mortimer prime maldini,nesta=rip messi..😂
Jorge Aguilar no not even Ramos so how do you think he can take Nesta, Maldini, Gattuso and other players in prime? You’re nothing more than just a fanboy of Messi
RONALDO NAZARIO DE LIMA THE BEST PLAYER IN THE WORLD...
Brooooo, I am diehard Messi fan but don’t do this with R9. He is miles away up all Messi, cr7 and Neymar combined. 😂
Übertreib mal nicht mit Meilenweit entfernt. Mann kann beide in einem Atemzug nennen aber doch nicht Meilenweit entfernt. Kiddy
@@kingarsa1No he is not, Pele and This Ronaldo combined are not worth half of Messi. Messi 100 times better than Ronaldo. What Messi has achieved is untouchable. No one comes close to Messi. Maybe Cristiano is closer to him in terms or consistency and playing in high level for 20 years.
How old are you ?@@travelheaven6593
@@travelheaven6593 Messi is also meatrided by Fifa, accounting for most of his individual awards
@@prosperosuagwuFifa also give r9 fack balon in 2002 r9 scored 9 goals and won wc but hanry won ucl, club wc, uefa cup and scored 30 goals ans 22 assist but fifa give him balon fifa also rigged because he given pele 2 wc and 1 wc for r9 which they don't deserve 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Ronaldo is called fenomeno for a reason.
+Maria A
and Messi looser dwarf for a reason
+Communist1986
*"You were also as easily defeated as the other gu"..* bla, bla.
ok.. if you want and trust in this.. but don't cry.
say hello to your idol, mickey mouse che guevara.
Because he broke his knee and came back to be a World Champion, he claim his throne, that's greatness, to much talent in one person, in an era of to many stars, not like this last 10 years, crappy players, we can only save 15 players and that's much to say. Fenomeno we salute you.
Maria A m
*-"messi is called the goat snd the messiah.."-* (messiah.. ahaha, just big lol).
says some pathetic asian or latino sh.itboy, whose nickname is *+messi the legend*. that's all your messi. with his 500 golden balls.
these are unbelievable players and it's hard to compare the two. However, I have to say that although Messi has unbelievable ball control, Ronaldo had scary dribbling skills. He could make something out of nothing any minute this is why I think he was the best. Messi is definitely more consistent than Ronnie was, but Ronaldo was truly out of this world. He was spectacular. He did things that no one still to this day has done. Messi more solid overall, but Ronaldo way more talented sorry but it's the truth. I think Ronaldo was the most talented player that has ever played the game.
Redi Dibrani true
Redi Dibrani wtf Messi is the best of all time don't say that he isn't bet than r9 when footballers and coaches etc say Messi is the best of all time
Katespo SlayrGolden not funny I prefer ronaldo over Messi you idiot just because I like ronaldo more doesn't mean I don't think Messi is the best
Sasuke 15 best Barcelona player of all time yes, best player in history, don't be delusional man not even close.
Jon Pool so you think Ronaldo 9 is is better you just not watch modern day football huh?
The main difference is that Messi's videos look like a replay while the phenomenon is doing different things at each.
Yeah, that's one of the reasons why Zidane finds he is the absolute best. He said that with Ronaldo , at training he was seing each day something new !
He Uses the same pattern while R9 had a plethora of skills executed majestically
Exactly
Yeah messi better goals per game better assist per game. Better season highs
@NMA 55 NIDHIN JOBI i have seen both messi and ronaldo and Ronaldos skills were better i can clearly say
Some players cannot be compared with anyone because they are truly special and unforgettable. In their absence the world wouldn't be the same like it is now. El phenomenon is a player who fits rightly in that space.
I have always said that Ronaldo 9 is probably the most technically gifted player I've seen.
Prime messi far more COMPLETE
@@diazromario7586 maybe in vision but R9 was like Ronaldinho for the technics cr7 for the personality and finish and Messi for his dribbling
@@blackgamer442 lol Messi has more goals than r9. And a higher goals per game ratio than cr7. So Messi has better finishing aswell.
And Messi has more assists than all of them. So Messi for passing aswell
He beats them all in every department
@@diazromario7586 zlatan played with Messi so he knows better
@@diazromario7586 and probably better than you and me about Messi
Ronaldo 9 BEST PLAYER Of history👑
Ronaldo was the best player in times when the best 'defenders' on earth played(Thuram, Montero, Maldini, Nesta, Kannavaro, Staam, Carlos, Cafu) and also many others legends like Batistuta, Zidane, Rivaldo, Zamorano, Schevchenko, George Weah, Thiery Hanry, Berkamp, Del Piero, Totti... For me he is the best football player ever... It was really pleasure watching football those days!
Messi with 18 year destroy Roberto Carlos and Cannavaro, All those player will be just a shodow if Meesi were araound.
jajaj Roberto Carlos had 32 at that time, the same that Canavaro, it is the prime for a defender...........jajajaja what an angry uninform little kid
So are you the one who decides who's in their prime or not? Go home fanboy, you really need to grow up and educate yourself on sports.
jajajajajaaj, and you decide when they past they prime???...at 32???...you are a joke
Ohhh, so you remember the price of both at that time?? you seems more ridiculous tryng to be smart jajajajajaj must be fun be next to you.....go home and keep Crying, little wimp
I started watching football in 1994.I never seen anyone better than R9. He is the best.
Me too..Started watch football since World Cup 94..
Guess you stop watching football 2005
I completely agree with you,R9 is best in the world,for me it is way better than Messi (when he was not injured)
@@miskandary Before injured he was the best playmaker in all sort such as speed,dribbles and etc ,he did his part form the beginning to end of match ....Even after injured he still proved himself to be best in the world at World cup 2002 and 2003 ,2004 (Real Madrid) despite his perfomance not as previous Ronaldo...After injured ,he just perform his ability some moments or as needed only and he just waiting for the ball to get passed,he save his stamina by just remaining at his position...that is the different between injured and non injured....However he was a phenomenon in the skills of scoring of all time in the football history, Messi didnt proof anything world cup as him...Messi good at Barcalona cox team members all are excellent,when extraordinary players all united,that team signaficantly Mass!!!
During the time of Ronaldinho,Larrson,Eto,Giuly...Messi still at this team...but Eto usually known as best scorer while Ronaldinho as best midfielder,playmaker...After these gone, then only Messi known as the best....Messi is very good player but please dont compare him with legendary Ronaldo and Maradona...
Yes ronaldo is best player as messi the god
Messi and el fenomeno one of the greatest ever. Runs ,acceleration,speed dribbling skills who do you prefer?
My choice is always el fenomeno because I think he is with Maradona the best player ever:)
Well said!
el fenomeno all day
+Giovadieci Football Channel
Messi and Maradona best ever. good joke.
best looser and best clown ever. maybe
Jack Harper messi mas cr7=1/4 fenómeno, sorry, kid.
Jack Harper sure, champion (:
Messi = control, velocidad, regate, sin duda un genio en la cancha
Ronaldo es un fenomeno jamas antes visto, incomparable ...
I don't even speak spanish, but this seems the only possitive comment about Messi. If it is, thanks for not hating Messi, he deserves better
Timo Wilms He speaks good things about Messi but said that Ronaldo is the greatest of all time with a big difference!
@@simontsulaia7841 I don't think so, he says "incomparable", so he doesn't choose I think
Timo Wilms He says Ronaldo is incomparable, we can’t compare anyone with him!
@@simontsulaia7841 oah okay, thankyou for translating. If he thinks that, I've got no problem with that. atleast he's nice towards Messi
Someone in the comments says: it is very very very hard to stop messi, but it is impossible to stop el fenomeno. Well that's what i think, Ronaldo was unstoppable without injuries he would be the best ever, maldini,nesta,puyol, Carlos and so on, said they have never seen a player like him. For a reason...
Giovadieci Calcio/Football, agreed
"Someone in the comments says: it is very very very hard to stop messi, but it is impossible to stop el fenomeno. Well that's what i think, Ronaldo was unstoppable"
Why didn't he score then in every game? You guys are delusional nostalgics.
even zizou said ronaldo lima the best ❤️
Communist1986 what ?!? Your comment is Very studip man...it is impossible score in every match ahaah
So he wasn't unstoppable you fucking idiot. If he didn't score in every game, defenders managed to stop him- logic.
6:01 definitivamente un poema para el fútbol, todo un fenómeno Ronaldo
Y pensar que antes de Ronaldo ningún 9 podía hacer eso, el fenómeno cambio el fútbol, el fue un mago, un artista
Y siguen sin haber 9 que hagan eso. La tierra no va a parir otro R9
@@christianespinoza6668 Ronaldo fue un fenómeno totalmente irrepetible.... Los 9 de hoy día pueden meter muchos goles conseguir records y estadísticas muy buenas, pero nunca tendrán ni el 1% de talento y magia que Ronaldo tuvo..... El fenómeno fue lo mejor y lo más grande que el fútbol tuvo
Ronaldo nazario dalima is number one in the World
A wiwi
Yeah, Ronaldo phenomenon is the best. Messi learned from Ronaldinho, and Ronaldinho learned techniques from Ronaldo
Messi:
Matchs 815
Goals 612
Goal ratio 0.81
Assists 275
Ballon d or 6
Ronaldo:
Matchs 542
Goals 358
Goal ratio 0.66
Assists 60
Ballon d or 2
Ronaldo can win 2 world cup because they are the best team in that era with the best player, like Ronaldinho Rivaldo Cafu ZeRoberto and etc. For people who still think Ronaldo is better, you just trap in your memories cause your nostalgic.
Messi better than Ronaldo. No doubt :).
@@bagas4466 messi barca barca barca... Ronaldo play with barca real italy..etc.. Fuck u hhhh
@@khaaaaliiiiiid shut up poor people
ronaldo fenomeno is the best player i have ever seen
???? maradona messi pelé romario ronaldinho di stefano...ok
@@bsasdejoda sai daí maluco kkkkkkk acima de ronaldo fenomeno só pelé
@@Shbtelevisao acima do Ronaldo só ele mesmo
@@bsasdejoda nope, ronaldo the best
@@zenosama9407 better than Romario, Zico, Garrincha, Pelé? ...may be he could be in top 10.
1) Messi - Maradona - Pelé
9) Cruyff, Di Stéfano, Zico, Romario, Ronaldinho - Ronaldo - Bcekembauer
ronaldo dont need footbal philosophy like tiki taka, possesion or what ever, he dont even need a coach on a team... put ronaldo as a striker in any team,, pass the ball to him and we all know what's gonna happen.
True
same with Messi ...messi scored an incredible 91 goals in tiki taka when he was moved as a CF from false 9 ... It's fair to say he'll manage atleast 60 in any other system as a CF something which r9 hasn't done
Michael Fu there is thing which matters more than technique and talent and that is execution and Messi was the best in execution in 2012 the stats speak for themselves
Michael Fu you can add to that list and see Messi wins it
passing - Messi
intelligence- Messi
team work- Messi
& sorry I would prefer Messi in dribbling he has too much solo goals to deny that and apart from goals he has many dribbling runs too in which he dribbled the whole defence and missed the goal.
@@michael_fu_2002 Messi has 253 career assists bro.. and balance, humiliation, Acceleration & ball control I would give it to messi
You cannot compare Messi to El Fenomeno. If Messi played against the defenders Ronaldo played against, he would not have been able to dribble passed them as easy. Football in Ronaldo's era was harder on strikers, defenders had more freedom to play rough against explosive players. Nowadays they get booked for ridiculous challenges, therefore its a lot easier for the likes of Messi who don't have physical strength. El Fenomeno was a complete striker, he had strength, speed, explosiveness, ridiculous acceleration, unstoppable dribble, equally good with both feet, header, powerful shot, extremely intelligent in the box and an endless arsenal of skills with which he mesmerised the fans and was an absolute nightmare for the defenders. A true Phenomenon - the only one who deserves that nickname. The greatest player of all time!
P.S
I forgot to mention that his comeback in the 2002 World Cup was the finest example of someone battling against the odds that I have ever seen... ever! After everything he went through, the two knee injuries after which he was given only 50% chance to play football again, for him to come back and become the top goalscorer in the history of the World Cup was truly phenomenal! God knows what he would have achieved had he not been injured... we can only ask ourselves... WHAT IF?!
6 ballan dor's speak for him self🤙🤫😂
yeah, and what about messis comeback? after losing the world cup in 2010, he completely dominated the next season winning 5 trophies, only 1 away from the treble and reached a level nobody has ever reached before. 2014, he lost the world cup FINAL, guess what, next season he reached a level nobody has ever reached again and won the treble. 2018 world cup, he lost again, but again, reached a level nobody has ever reached again and almost won the treble for the 3rd time. messi would easily dominate any era, to say that messi wouldnt dominate it is just dumb, youre just an r9 fanboy that cant except messis talent and that he is the greatest ever by far.
@@Stxmm you little kid. Numbers mean nothing when put against the incredible talent the Phenomenon had! If it was not for his injuries he would have achieved a lot more than Messi! Two years out of the game because of ruptured ligaments on his knee and he comes back and wins the World Cup becoming all time top scorer in the tournament - that is what you call a comeback! Messi never suffered an injury of that scale so what the hell are you talking about? Messi has always been looked after by Barcelona like a little kid. That’s why he never won anything significant outside of Barcelona! Even Maradona said it, that little Messi has no character. So you can shove your numbers up your ass and stfu. R9 before his injuries is the greatest talent football has ever seen, period!
@@stoyanvisuals the numbers do mean a lot dumbass, im not here to hate on R9, but messi is just so much better. even when they both were only 22, messi was so much better
@@stoyanvisuals messi at 22 was way better than r9
El fenómeno RONALDO . ..the best all times
Oh! yeah...
Victor Velez sure il phenomeno the best
jonas tanberg correct and we found more legends in midfield and attack and all teams have legends and stars
True! :)
Honestly over a career I would pick Messi. However if Ronaldo didnt have his knee injuries I would take Ronaldo. He til this day had the greatest season of any striker in history in 96-97 at 20 years old!
R9 and Messi , finally a fair comparison, My two all time favourites. They are in a class of their own. I prefer R9 however, his only weakness was the fact he was prone to injury. He was the perfect player (before he got a bit tubby lol even then he was still world class). At 20-22 R9 was already the best player in the world, not even messi can claim that. Its seriously scary to think how good R9 would've been if he made it to 27/28 healthy.
Single problem is that in his twenties Messi was the single player in history that won Balon D'Or 4 times in a row. But yeah, not even Messi can claim that. What in God name are you raving fanatics talking about?
given yes I made a mistake , Messi won his first ballon d'or at 22 and R9 at 21 so yes Messi can sort of claim that. What I mean is Ronaldo was putting up World class numbers at Psv when he was in his teens. Messi took slightly longer to reach world class numbers is what I sort of mean. One question tho, How am I a fanatic if clearly stated that Messi (alongside R9 ) Is my favourite player of all time?
It's easier to get first team in PSV and R9's Barca that was a contender for UEFA places, than in Messi's Barca. Actually Messi was very close to leaving Barca because he was not getting enough first team action. We are talking about a Barca that had Etoo, Xavi, Iniesta, Ronaldinho, Deco, Henry etc. Messi as a long time played as a substitute and was a winger before they understood how good he is. I also loved R9 and watched him from first to last game. Messi on the other hand, cannot be compared with anything. It's unexplainable how he became what he is and how he was very similar even since he was 8-9 years old. The quality of everything he does, the speed and the decisiveness is incredible. It's stunning to see how nobody can find an antidote for his game. His "secret" actually is that he is faster, smarter and more skilled than anyone on the field at any time. It was visible even from hist debut at 17 years when he chipped the keeper and the goal was wrongfully disallowed, then at the second occasion, he chipped the keeper again. No problem, why not... Although a modest person, he always knew he is the best and it's visible from the moment he had his first game. Henry and Puyol recount that at his first training with the team, his first action was dribbling everyone on the field and scoring.
BeatJackersBox R9 won his at 20
BeatJackersBox fair?? dream bobby unlikely and stupid. messi is second place
Tbh i'm a big fan of lionel messi he is the best player in the world right now but there's not gonna be a next ronaldo (r9) he is the best player in the history of soccer
And Mbappe????
No i'm joking :p
Ronaldo Nazario is the best Striker of all time... No doubt.. his speed, dribbling is incomparable. He played in the era of Best defenders like Maldini,Nesta and many more
Thuram
I always think messi dribbled past more players but there are a lot of factors that can change that for example the time ronaldo played in maybe the defenders were better, also r9 looked way more natural and full flowing than messi
Messi needs Barcelona, Ronaldo makes any team great with your presence. Ronaldo played against Zidane, Rivaldo, Ronaldinho, Figo, Henry, Riquelme, Batistuta, Del Piero, Romario, Bergkamp... defenders like Stan, Maldini, Thuram, cannavaro, Nesta, Cafu, Redondo...
The Golden ball in 90's and 2000 beginning was highly the most difficult than today.
you're right
Exactly he never succeeded in his national team.
yes you are right players were more diverse across many teams, cristiano ronaldo quality. now there is just a few that stand out.
No lie I agree but messi also played against nesta maldini cannavaro and destoyed them let’s not forget the 19 year old messi with the long hair bruhhh
@@idkwhyibothered LOL, when they were grandfathers LOL
Ronaldo is The real King of striker
This is probably the smartest comment section I have ever encountered with. I never saw a player who made Messi look not so much of a threat. And this is a guy who played just 50% of his expectation. Messi is indeed the last magician living and we should be honored to watch him play but Ronaldo is just something else. An animal, a beast. Someone who would drop back to the defence, win back the ball and go all the way by himself. He was a complete player who God gave all there is, strength, power, speed, acceleration, finishing. He didn't care who he faced as he just demolished them. He was a living nightmare to both the defence and goalkeepers. I would rather face 100 Messi's than one Ronaldo 9 in his prime. And I say this in no disrespect to Messi.
Yap
Neymar its a magician as well, Neymar has more dribbling capability than most of brazilian legends and Im saying this being a brazilian who's extremely fan of Ronaldo R9 El Fenomeno.. Hopefully now and then we'll be able to see players as Messi and Neymar, specially coming from South America.
@@tambemacho4891 Neymar is a skill magician, True. But on dribling, speed, power, and goal instinct, no comparison with R9. They definitely aren't on the same level.
@@tambemacho4891No doubt Neymar is the most skillful player today and maybe of all time but he's not as efficient as Nazario
@@Notorious-rc2jp True, maybe more skilled, but not efficient as Ronaldo Nazario. I agree with you.
Ronaldo o melhor da HISTÓRIA 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
Messi riu disso
@ً kkkkkkkk dizer que zidane foi melhor que r9 e de fuder em, zidane foi monstro era de outro planeta, mas ronaldo era de outro universo
Perto de Messi Ronaldo foi um bosta !
@@elizeujanuthjanuth3283 Não
@@elizeujanuthjanuth3283 não mesmo Messi pipoqueiro R9 não
RONALDO EL FENOMENO ES EL MEJOR DE LA HISTORIA !! QUE FENOMENO ES CARAJO !!
O FENÔMENO!!!!!!!!!
Ederson Guillermo Messi 60 goals /season
Anti Marseillaichiennes FuckBarceloneFuckMadrid Ronaldo en esta época haría los mismos o hasta más goles
fenomeno pero en lesionarse.
@@icardilebavarois1286 ronaldo en esta epoca y con esas defensas haria esos mismos goles. sin contar que ahora se juegan mas partidos
MARADONA. SAID TO RONALDO IF U DIDNT GET INJURED U BETTER THAN ME.... I THINK THATS ENOUGH
Bro Ronaldo is much better than Maradona
Ronaldo was better than Maradona and Messi.
If i was born in rich family i would have farrari.
it doesn't make any sense.
Theres a big if in there.
Maradona said pele is goat
Please. please, please... Ronaldo El fenomeno the best player ever
dybrdstyle nope
no
@@pauleyonas3486 idiota
yes bro, the bes ever
@@zenosama9407 Ronaldo was more explosive, he had a whole range of tricks he used at the end of his career, but less effective
El fenómeno era una bestia para los arqueros y defensas de todo el mundo.
No tiene comparación.
Ronaldo en su mejor momento abusaba de sus rivales, los humillaba por completo, y pobre los arqueros siempre terminaban comiendo cesped ante Ronaldo, Ronaldo fue tan impresionante que Oliver Kahn y Buffon le tenían miedo....
Messi tiene 8 balones de oro. El fenomeno tiene 2. Messi es el monstruo
@@martin.azcurra5998disculpa pero messi los despedazaba mil veces mas el fenomeno. El que no sabe de futbol diria que el fenomeno seria mejor
@@Kamiiikaseee te pregunto cuántos balones de oro le regalaron a Messi, otra cosa en el Barcelona todos jugaban para el, en el PSG no sobresalió fue uno más.
Cómo se dice se destapó la olla cuántos campeonatos ganó de forma fraudulenta eso da para pensar
Ronaldo tem 2 bola de ouro merecida diferente do messi e ronaldo tem mais copas do mundo e outra em questão de habilidade ronaldo fenomeno na posição e literalmente melhor que Messi ou Cristiano ronaldo, Ronaldo não tem comparação ele esta em outro patamar@@Kamiiikaseee
of course Ronaldo Fenomeno...he is the best ever
Truss....R9
R9 Fenomeno will be the best forever!!!
il fenomeno I think Messi is better due to consistency
Edson Flores .. if you think quantity is better than quality.. then yes. But most will agree that quality is far better than quantity
Messi has definitely surpassed R9 at this stage
R9 el mejor de la historia
@@D95RO r9 2 copa do mundo sendo uma artilheiro, no dia que cr7 ganhar uma copa sendo artilheiro vindo de lesões seria no joelho aí vc pode comparar seu nutela
@@D95RO jajajajajajaja tiene pajas mentales con penaldo no hijito es imposible que tu penaldo sea el mejor
@@D95RO lo que es no Saber De Futbol, Todos Los Trucos, Bicicletas, Elasticos que ves hoy dia fueron puestos de Moda Gracias Al Fenomeno.
David fallen quem é mais bonito? Quem dribla melhor? Quem ainda com 36 anos joga futebol de classe... nem preciso resposta
Sin lugar a dudas Messi es el mejor del mundo. Y realmente no hay quien le equipare (cr7 hace rato que perdió nivel). Pero R9 es sin dudas mucho mejor que Messi. Tenia todo bueno: fue rápido (demasiado), potencia (demasiado), sabía jugar en 1 metro cuadrado como tambien hacer dribling en velocidad (cosa que ni Dinho era capaz de hacer). Sabía aprovechar espacios, enfrentarse a 1 defensa como fabricarse espacios y enfrentar a 5 defensas... Ronaldo para mi (subjetivamente hablando) es el mejor de la historia, sobre Pele y Maradona.
Tienes toda la razón Ronaldo " El Fenomeno " es el mejor jugador de la historia porque siendo delantero, jugaba pero jugaba como 10 nato, porque siempre cuando le daban el balón tenia a un jugador encima desde el area contraria ni siquiera en el área ofensiva donde el debía de estar, un jugador completo porque también ayudaba a sus compañeros desde su campo, con una potencia única y la velocidad que imprimía era de un Dios que asustaba a todo jugador y el balón de fútbol casi insuperable para el mismo, ni se diga del Driblin, la tecnica depurada, el amague de cintura, el quiebre, las famosa bicicleta, la definición, estoy seguro que debi haber anotado mas de 2000 goles si no se hubiere lesionado, por eso en su momento o Rey Pelé se sintio superado, ni se diga Maradona, y tampoco hay comparación con Messi, por el Argentino solo jugo bien en el Barcelona con jugadores como Xavi e Iniesta de lo contrario mmmmmm.
Discrepo totalmente,R9 no es mejor que Messi en absolutamente nada,ahh si en una cosa es que el tiraba freestyle cosa que Messi es un jugador mucho mas basico, despues en goles,asistencias,vision de juego etc Messi es muchisimo mas superior.
Jugo Chasquido veja esse vídeo para saber quem foi R9 e porque ninguém se compara a ele ruclips.net/video/51Y9KnSkSL0/видео.html
Messi é um excelente jogador, mas não conseguiu fazer metade do que Ronaldo fez
@@nagu8663 Ronaldo no es mejor que Messi en nada?, anda a jugar al FIFA, por qué se nota que nunca en tu vida viste fútbol....
Seeing this video between the "Fenómeno" and Messi., I have no doubt that the "Fenómeno" was better ... more strength, more power, much more creative when it comes to dribbling, that's why he is a player that we will not see in a long time equal to him.
ruclips.net/video/z0rS-laDNkk/видео.html
Exactly more creative
Messi had better dribbling, agility, passing, finishing, playmaking, freekicks, goalscoring, won way more trophies, and 6 ballondors with 6 golden boots. Dont compare them
@@Stxmm more trophies ? Lol did Messi win a world cup
@@babsmania85 did r9 win 4 Champions league’s?
El Fenomeno
MESSI ES UN DIOS
@@juliaazevedo1890 *Ronaldo también es un dios*
@@jotausss4026 ronaldo esta muy sobrevalorado
@@juliaazevedo1890 *Messi al lado de Ronaldo es un sobrevalorado*
*Ronaldo es mucha más jugador y sus movimientos con el cuerpo*
*Maradona igualmente es más jugador que Messi*
@@jotausss4026 messi 6 botas de oro
messi is very very very hard stop but ronaldo is impossible this is the different this is the thruth
+Matteo Bonomi thats it!
Messi is a better goalscorer, assister, playmaker, free kick tacker and dribbler. But R9 is ''impossible''.
People like you makes me feel smart.
messi play whit the best squad in the history and in spain the phenomenon play in the serie a age 90 the best difficulty and beautiful soccer in the history ronaldo in this barcellona is illegal in this time
Matteo Bonomi Ronaldo played WCs with the best squad. Ronaldinho, RIvaldo, Cafu, Roberto Carlos, Kaka, etc.
Messi at 26, already had more goals and assists than R9 ON HIS ENTIRE CAREER.
Messi is more complete, because he's also a PLAYMAKER and free kicktacker.
Messi is also more consistent, by far.
So your opinion is based on dogs shit and nostalgia.
you wrong
ronaldo is the best player in the history..in club and country..
No champions league
I’d say Ronaldinho is better.
@@vincenthanna6109 Messi no World Cup, Ronaldo 2 World Cup on one Knee. 1 World Cup>>>1000 Champions League.. Ronaldo is true 🐐
@@martin.azcurra5998
Funny logic..Mustfai and khedira must be better than Messi then
How can he be the best at club level if he never won the Copa Libertadores or Champions League. If one wins a World Cup then the club accolades should not matter in terms of hierarchy. He was a phenomenon because no one ever saw a footballer do what he could do. Same with a number of other players. After that it is just preference. Football is a facet that consists of so many different components and since every single person on this planet is different in regards to thought process. Different skills and techniques will appeal to different people . To some it is about scoring goals, assisting, passing, play-making, dribbling and timing. There have been a handful of players throughout history who have mastered a number of these arts. However name me just ONE other than Messi who excelled in all these to the extent that he can be labelled a complete passer or play maker or goal scorer. Its primitive to say R9 was the best striker in history because he was way more than that.
As a young football fan,I’m biased towards Messi.I always thought he was better than legends like Pelé,Cruyff,Zidane,Ronaldinho and maybe even Maradona.But if there is one player that has more talent than him,it has to be R9.He was a beast in his teen years.Absolutely fascinating to watch.I wonder what he would have become without all those injuries and health problems.
No bro... R9 was something special... But i think you forget.. Messi is playmaker and scorer at same time... Its impossible... R9 was too good and similar to messi, but how much messi make football so simple.. Nobody can do that...
ronaldo el mejor de todos los tiempos . grande ronaldo
Ronaldo. He is the best player ever.
Messi es un excelente jugador, más su fútbol es en el automático. Es en la base de la correría y los cortes secos a velocidad. Cualquier persona puede notar que el Ronaldo fenómeno driblava de hecho, no era sólo en la base de la correría y cortes secos. El gingaba, pasaba pluma, su fútbol era más alegre, más desarrollado, puro arte. Mira los golpes que no eran sólo de dentro del área. ¿Cuántas camisetas Ronaldo jugó bien, y Messi cuántas ?? ¿Cuántas veces? . Tanto Messi como Cr7 jugaron en su zona de confort. Quería ver brillar el mismo fútbol en otros equipos como lo hizo Ronaldo. Ronaldo jugó bien donde pasó, y sólo fue parado por las lesiones y mira que incluso con ellas, fue 3 veces el mejor del mundo y ganó 3 copas del mundo. Incluso al final de la carrera todo gordo, su magia del fútbol nunca murió. Quiero ver si al final de carrera ambos van a jugar lo que jugó ?? . Basta ver sus goles por el Corinthians, cada pintura. Que van. El fenómeno ganó ese apodo no fue a toa, él era de hecho ILUMINADO, hay muchos craques por ahí, más fenómeno sólo existe 1 !!!!
Lika Kalls2 te corrijo ya que no ganó 3 copas del mundo, ganó 2, en todo lo demás coincido totalmente con usted!!!
Solo quieres qué Messi se baya del barça porque seguro eres del Madrid siempre usan ese argumento para meter pesion para ver si el jugador se va recuerda qué si algo te sale bien en un lugar porque te vas a ir no tendria lógica a Messi le a salido casi todo bien en Barcelona seria estúpido marcharse mientras que ronaldo no siempre triunfo y tenia qué ser vendido si fuera sido tan bueno como Messi hubiera durado más en el Madrid ya que como sabemos el Madrid solo tiene a los mejores y cuando dejas de serlo te vas hací mismo en otros club si ya no eres bueno te vas y punto así qué si cambio tanto de equipo fue por algo no por nada termino retirándose al más bajo nivel y en el corinthians mientras seguro Messi se retirara en el barça porqué siempre se a mantenido a un buen nivel a pesar de su edad
Lika Kalls2 y fútbol de leo toda vía es mejor y más perfecto quizas no tan alegre cómo dices pero si más perfecto ya qué es capaz de romper todo un esquema de juego el solo tiene mejor regate quizás lo qué Messi le falté sean fintas pero para que hacer tantas jugadas innecesaria si en un dribling te puedo dejar totalmente roto y no gasto tanto tiempo qué haciendo una jugada de más y perderla ósea qué en eso leo es más sabio qué prefieres el divertinage o la perfección yo desde luego la perfección recuerda que quizás el divertinage sea agradable etc pero toda borrachera tiene su mareo me explique pero el camino más cercano al éxito es la perfección y quizas por eso Messi ha conseguido más títulos colectivo e Individuales que Tu Fenómeno recuerda qué fenomenos hay unos Pero D10S no tiene límite ni Comparación ni Sustitución D10S es D10s y no hay nada qué hacer 👌
Yo no soy del Madrid pero sería bueno ver jugar a Messi en otro club ya que cuando juega en la selección no demuestra ni la mitad de lo que demuestra en el Barcelona, Ronaldo el Fenómeno fue un astro en todos sus clubes y en la selección, si no lo vieron jugar no hablen, sólo basta con que vean los comentarios y se darán cuenta que de cada 100 que vimos jugar a R9 el Fenómeno y vemos a Messi, 90 sabemos que el fenómeno fue mucho mejor, Ronaldo el fenómeno sufrió una lesión de rotura parcial de ligamentos que lo dejó 6 meses fuera de las canchas, el día de su regreso se lesiona de nuevo, esta vez rotura TOTAL de ligamentos que lo dejó más de un año fuera de las canchas, volver y salir campeón del mundial, goleador del mundial y marcar los dos goles en la final frente al mejor arquero del mundo en esa época para que su equipo se consagre campeón DEL MUNDO!!! Cuando el pecho frío haga eso hablamos, no lo hizo en la final del 2014 con sus 2 rodillas buenas mucho menos lo haría después de una lesión de tal magnitud jajajaja no sean tan ignorantes, y el gordito Ronaldo también sufría de la tiroides por lo cual su peso aumentaba considerablemente y aún así gordo y todo era una máquina, si no hubiera sido por estos problemas Ronaldo el fenómeno tal vez sería el mejor de la historia pero aún así le alcanzó para ser el tercero mejor de la historia y el mejor delantero de área (9) de la historia, Messi le falta mucho, si van a hablar de fútbol primero investiguen un poco ignorantes!!!
¿Se jubiló en el más bajo nivel ???? que es lo que el CORINTHIANS es algún TIME PEQUEÑO de Brasil mi hijo. Busque, va detrás de la información antes de cualquier cosa. ¡Este mismo equipo tiene 2 MUNDIALES FIFA !! . Este mismo equipo empató con Real Madrid en 2000, ese mismo equipo GANADO de CHELSEA, que detonó el barcelona de la Champions en 2012. El propio Corinthians tiene más hinchada que el propio Barça, digo torcida y no simpatizantes que incluyen al barcelona como otro equipo que les gusta. En el caso de que se trate de un jugador de fútbol, el jugador de la selección brasileña, Ronaldo, ha ganado todos los premios que un jugador de fútbol busca. Y que no se sienten como si estuvieran en el mismo lugar. Ronaldo tiene el cariño de varias torcidas, porque su fútbol no se limitó a un TIME. Ningún equipo demetió ronaldo, Ronaldo que quería ir a otros equipos. PQ Justamente él quería hacer de HECHO UNA CARRERA diversificada. Ronaldo es referencia qd se habla de qué mejor jugador ha visto jugar, Ronaldo VIROU LENDA. Messi y Cr7 entraron en una era, de disputa de apenas 2 craques, 2 cracks esclavos de sus equipos, de su zona de confort. En realidad me gustaría verlos en otros equipos, para ver si el rendimiento sería el mismo en varias temporadas.
Even if R9’s vid is no HD but he is the phenomenon. You can’t deny that
RONALDO IL FENOMENO!!! FORZA INTER!!! ⚫🔵⚫🔵
Messi:
Matchs 815
Goals 612
Goal ratio 0.81
Assists 275
Ballon d or 6
Ronaldo:
Matchs 542
Goals 358
Goal ratio 0.66
Assists 60
Ballon d or 2
Ronaldo can win 2 world cup because they are the best team in that era with the best player, like Ronaldinho Rivaldo Cafu ZeRoberto and etc. For people who still think Ronaldo is better, you just trap in your memories cause your nostalgic.
Messi better than Ronaldo. No doubt :).
Now that's an accurate comparison. Messi vs the real Ronaldo...
Both football geniuses, but Ronaldo has something that can't be explained..
agreed
σωστος
yeah surely .. because Messi's genius can be explain right ?
It's just 2 differents styles
Well, you are right about their different styles. But in my eyes Ronaldo was more unpredictable.. It's a matter of perspective..
To be more "unpredictable" doesn't justify a higher status. Personally I would give the edge to Messi. The frequency of his dribbling is unprecedented.
This vídeo was made to put Messi above R9! The best moves, runs, goals of R9 arent here! But you cant change what he did, R9 was much more amazing than Messi.
I think he was much more than Messi in technique; in creating diferent moves, in imagination... in that sense, for me, he is the best ever!
i didnt talk about stats and i dont care about stats! Anyone who saw R9 play can say that what i wrote is abslute true!
N.S.M. i didnt talk about stats and i dont care about stats! Anyone who saw R9 play can say that what i wrote is absolute true!
N.S.M. If you´re going to give much importance to the stats, even CR7 is better than Messi, so be careful for what you wich! In what concerns R9 and the teams he represented, his 2 best seasons were 1996-1997 and 1997-1998, where he played for Barcelona and Inter Milan, at that time two teams that were very far away from the Barcelona of Pep Guardiola or the actual team of Barcelona! In terms of national teams, i dont think there is much difference between the Brasilian national team and the Argentinan national team, justo look at the talents that Argentina has! Sorry, i´ve been aroung seeing football for quite some time, you´re arguments arent so good as you think!
N.S.M. No i cant say R9 was a playmaker, he was a 9! Obvious! Again and for the last time, the kind of magic, imagination and brilliance i saw in R9 when he was playing at his best, i never saw in any player, before or after him! In that sense, for me, he was the best! That doesnt mean he is the best ever if we want to analyse every criteria, or if we want to compare stats!
The difference between the defenders against Ronaldo and those against Messi is completely absurd, the defenders who marked Messi looked like amateurs compared to those who marked Ronaldo.
Ronaldo R9
Ronaldo play in 90's serie a
When serie a hv best defender like maldini,nesta,thuram,cannavaro and more
So Ronaldo is GOAT
Yes you're right
Yes darling😘
@Universal somali Tv he didn't
¡¡¡¡No doubt!!!!
Haaaaaa.
ronaldo has also played in laliga but why didn't he scored a goals like messi.
R9 the greatest ever for me
I'm big fan of messi but plz don't compare him with Ronaldo Brazilian because no one as El Fenemono
@Alphahin 17 im football fan before become Messi fan
sorry kids R9 is the best ever
Sorry to see that !! Probaly you dont understand a lot of soccer to write this !!
Snort Wassabi Lol mayweather?
more like Ali
@@mandm7878 Prime Ronaldo was a much more dangerous player than any version of Messi. Injuries ruined his career, but at his prime (if we can eve call that a prime, because he was only 20) he was the very best. Messi with R9's injuries wouldn't even be a pro player.
@@rodrigoandrade6668 WORD SOCCER SAID IT ALL LOL.
👌👍
Love Messi! but R9 is the most impressive player i have ever seen! he invented new tricks every training, every Game. According to Zidane its really true. Pure Magic. Messi is more predictable,however more effective all-round. Ronaldo had 3 major injuries taking him for 3 career years out. he could easily have won 5,6,7,8 ballon d'or if it wasn't for his heavy knee injuries. Having that said, in a era with many competitors at high level. like Zidane, Figo, Henry, Rivaldo, Ronaldinho..etc...
btw...this videos doesn't show Ronaldo's best techniques.
stam , ferdinand,thuram,montero,ayala,desailly, etc....
@@anassdkheila7659 true
Le dribble de messi est exceptionnel. Ballon collé au pied avec de tout petits pas. Il semble ne faire aucun effort en dépassant les autres. On ne sait même pas comment il a fait pour passer. Le football avec lui semble encore plus facile.
A noter que physiquement et en tant que rapidité il est moins fort que R9 qui demeure une légende dont messi avait dit s'inspirer.
Ronaldo is the best player in the hestory
R9 in his prime was better than messi but not better than Cristiano Ronaldo
@@D95RO jajajajajajaja
@@D95RO In his prime R9 was 10x the player CR7 is.
Alex CLA LOL looks like you know noting about football
@@D95RO No, looks that you're too young to understand the absolute beast R9 was before injuries.
Comparing Messi to Ronaldo is bullshit and disrespect for Ronaldo,there is only one Ronaldo the best of all the time the miracle of football
Kamal Chitnalah comparing messi to ronaldo is disrespect? 😂 kid, wtf are you talking about. u fucking kids now a day know shit about players. i bet u r penaldo s fan. u mite say in your opinion ronaldo is better than messi, but for u to said that comparing them is disrespecting ronaldo, u must have no idea what u r talking about. messi gets compared to only maradona, that is it. no one else. if it was me that wrote what u said, i would hang myself
talkin about the fat one,
Rasmus Larsen yeah also bullshit😂
if you actually compare all their matches, i believe messi is more consistent than ronaldo in their matches, like ronaldo would lose the ball dribbling and messi kind of doesnt lose the ball, he's smarter
Both r awesome now Messi can be compared with any legends in football because he is also a legend now
Ronaldo it's the best player in the world ever, hes a legend.
Someone hasn’t watched or heard of Messi…
@@mrtheonexx8749 He said best player , not best career or stats. Messi is the goat career , his circumstances were different to R9 , much tougher era , with less REF support , Messi got kicked , but not as much as R9 , because the rules are more protective off attackers today. How would Messi do in Serie A in the 90s ? How would prime R9 do in Peps Barca? No one knows.
@@mrtheonexx8749
Maybe you should start respecting others opinion for a change.
@@adammohamed..;;
@@adammohamed.. jjj
Is it only my impression or there's a feeling that the defenders against Messi try not to foul, but against R9 they try to foul?
the difference between each era, now the laws are trying to protect strikers, no more brutal tackle, for those brutal tackle at Ronaldo era, they must get red card immediately instead of yellow or just be ignored..
@@MrBanhmikem true and in Pelé's era yellow and red cards didn't even existed, the man won 3 World Cups being brutalized in the pitch without cards in football's rules. Nowadays football rules are extremely protective and defenders are extremely limited due to not being able to risk that much of precise tackles and dirty-play.
that is true. Messi generation and CR7 are the weakest one. the competition was between the two. so, it is no wonder they got all these easy ballon' do or!
See Ramos, Pepe and Atletico players. Of course it was not that nasty compared to old times, but for today’s standarts Messi was fouled badly many times, you can search horror tackles on Messi
@@pedrorodriguez7732 Messi is a Champions league player and he is total lie in the world cups. we have seen him many times!
lo explicare mejor, ronaldo nos hizo enamorarnos del futbol, se enfrento a los mejores defensas de la historia, revoluciono por completo el futbol, la mitad del planeta que no veia futbol .....lo vio gracias a el. Nunca necesito del mejor equipo del mundo para brillar, gano TODO, mundiales TODO, y por ultimo ...los que vimos al fenomeno jugar en sus mejores momentos y los que vemos a messi siempre coincidimos en algo, RONALDO SIEMPRE TUVO ALGO QUE NO SE PUEDE EXPLICAR CON PALABRAS.
Oswald Gonzalez : Coincido plenamente con tu comentario.
RONALDO en su momento fué un millón de veces más grandioso que Messi y que cualquier deportista del mundo. Su genialidad ,su velocidad ,su técnica indescifrable era desproporcionada en comparación a los demás.Puedo decir que las jugadas más impresionantes las ví en los pies de Ronaldo. Su época se fué para NO volver nunca más y dejarnos un vacío que nadie volverá a cubrir
,sólo él. Donde sea que esté mi ídolo Ronaldo le desearé lo mejor del universo por haberme hecho tan féliz viendole jugar.
Oswald Gonzalez exacto tenia una potencia velocidad y magia siempre los defensas iban con todo para derribarlo y ni asi lo podian parar era dificil no mirarlo y no imitarlo desgraciadamente lo unico que pudo pararlo fue su propio cuerpo inigualable
Oswald Gonzalez me llegó al corazón ❤ yo que ni veía fútbol, fueron sus jugadas que desde niña me mantuvo impactada , ha decir verdad los jugadores antiguos ponian alma , corazon y vida jasta en sus selecciones ,no solo en sus clubes , por eso eran los mejores porque lo ganaron todooo.
Messi-Gran técnica, Ronaldo-Fantasia. A cada cual lo que le llene la Retina.
Oswald Gonzalez
Hizo como quiso a Cannavaro y Maldini y en un mundial.
Messi is not even comparable to the LEGENDARY Fenomeno Ronaldo.R9 is the G.O.A.T!!!!!!!!
Stupid mind. Messi is better mainly in dribbling, if u dont wanna see it your problem. Where Ronaldo has maybe a little better characteristics is speed!
@@radeksindelar4165 dude u seen nothing from R9..messi is boring player he made players around him lazy..R9 made players around him superstars
@عماني مسقطاوي u fuck
@@roulette-bn3eb superstars?? What u talking about at all?? Zidane needed fame in Real or Carlos, Gutti?? They were class without Ronaldo
@@roulette-bn3eb hahahahaah u r blind.... U havent seen that every time, messi is bounded by 3-4 players. Why it is happened?
Please don't compare any one with R9. Football know who is Ronaldo.
Messi the goat
So u cant compare messi when he has 4 ballondor and 4 ucl’s more🤨 and like 5 golden boots more
@Nareen dran lol, not at all little kid. 4 ucl’s is easily bigger than a world cup
@@Stxmm Okay Messi is a champion however Ronaldo phenomenon is a national hero, you happy now
Messi is better
What impressed me is the fact that R9 is actually a big bloke. Hes 6ft whereas messi is 5'6 with very low centre of gravity and yet ive never seen anyone with R9s dribbling ability. Also he was more skilfull but much more powerful. Insane running power and upper body strength. Literally so complete he could do anything with the ball
@Mozart of Football stfu now lol
messi is in the top 5
Yes R9 dribble and speed is mind blowing
I am a Messi fan but what fenomeno did with that time's legendary defenders that is incomparable
bro, i am so happy that you can see that, honestly I am bored with idiot fans who said Messi is better, Cr7 is better, fuking sh!t Messi is good, but just good in this generation, but at his level, I can put him same boat with Rivaldo, Ronaldinho, but R9? no no, It is fuking NO. And Cr7? nope, he is just same as FIGO
@@MrBanhmikem
Most of them are Dutch or argentinians not to mention people living at the barcelona district.
Most of them says Maradona and Messi.
They cant see the truth and always ignore it.
@@MrBanhmikem people forget at 20 R9 was robbed of a Balon D’or by 1 vote. Still won one the following year and the youngest ever. He was headed to pure dominance and suddenly one of the worst days in football, the dreaded knee injury. Messi has CR7 to compete with, but R9 was pure dominance.
@@MrBanhmikem wtf man? 😂we can compare R9 with Messi is finishing and dribbling still messi is better in that debate o then k what about playmaking, vision, accuracy?
@@lapulgamagic8386 better than? while he drib pass Middlefield? while he is protected by the nowaday laws? while R9 drib pass best defenders there in best league? compare my ass. Playmaking? Accuracy? R9 proved he has them all, check this ruclips.net/video/BFvbopj3Vlg/видео.html when he is played as number 10 in INTER, the next year he became number 9 and be their main striker, and wtf? who need pass anymore if he can "crushed" defenders instead of lure them around? and what about height? strength? acceleration? shot power? compare? compare to your father maybe...
Messi es Messi... y pasará a la historia como un icono del Barcelona... tiene un muy buen control a alta velocidad, dribbling y gol... pero solo sabe usar la zurda, y una vez que arranca no sabe parar...
En cambio Ronaldo........ ambidiestro... control total del balón, la pisa, hace túnel, arranca, se detiene, hace una o dos bicicletas, vuelve a arrancar... tiene un repertorio muy amplio de manejo del balón: muchos recursos... nunca se achicó ante ni un rival y ni una camiseta... Y lo más importante: Campeón del mundo. No se si le dijeron en la final de 2002 que jugaría contra el mejor arquero del mundo, pero él le metió 2!!
No sabe parar, messi tiene explosividad y Cambio de velocidad, tienes golasos con la Derecha Uno de ellos A Neuver En 2015
Perfect.
@@antonioching2432 el que no sabe parar es Messi, Ronaldo frenaba amagaba o tiraba un caño y volvia a acelerar a toda velocidad dejando a cualquier defensor que se le cruzara en el suelo hasta a los arqueros los hacia comer cesped..
@@martin.azcurra5998 No sabe para dice jajajajaja, una cosa es pasar y no querer parar para poder seguir gambeteando y otra cosa es gambetear, frenar y volver a gambetear como lo hace siempre pero, pero sos ciego y no ves nada
@@paulodybala4234 Messi elude hacia los lados frena y acelera de nuevo... Ronaldo aceleraba a toda velocidad, gambetea deja al rival en el suelo y despues acelera de nuevo...
you have 0.001% chance to have another messi in next 50 years but you will never get another R9.. you will never get a 6ft striker who scores 1st goal dribbling past 3 defenders with Right foot then same with left foot and the 3rd straight from the midfield cutting through entire defense line with sheer acceleration and brutal physical strength...El fenomeno..
RONALDO
Messi is one great player but lets face it, Ronaldo was unbelievable, his nick name is "Fenomeno" for a reason he was phenomenal out of this world.
Messi is better than Ronaldo, fucking idiot
Dekkoo I Another kid trying to be rebellious by saying old players are better than current ones.
I watched both at their best. Messi is the best in history, that simple.
R9 is in the top 7 of all time.
Dekkoo I Facts are facts, kid.
Ronaldo yesterday, Ronaldo today, Ronaldo forever
Ronaldo fenomeno. No one else has nick name fenomeno. He was the first modern footballer that started everything you know today in football. All those fancy boots, R9 was the first one to wear those colored ones and all the fancy tricks…He was the king of the 90’s and early 2000’s. If he had not so many injuries and if he was a better “athlete” NOBODY would catch his records just like nobody can replicate his phenomenal physical movement. Unique player. Best striker of all times.
Ni siquiera se pueden comparar, Messi es de otro mundo, pero el fenómeno es de otra galaxia.
Alan Max Qué se supone que signifique esa estupidez?
Alan Max pero esa galax j a es mejor q las otras
Alan Max na Messi es bastante superior a Ronaldo
JAJAJAJAJAJJAJAJAJAJAJJAJAJJA
mesi es fabricacion ,el fenomeno era inventiva pura,el tipo aparecia hasta en las finales y no solamente en un partido de liga,eso quiere decir que mesincopa es mas sobrevalorado,dan risa los fanboys tarados de mesi,dicen saber de futbol cuandono saben ni un joraka osea nada,payasos.
Lendário Ronaldo Fenômeno!😊💚💛💚💛💚💛💚💛💚💛💚💛💚💛💚
Keep Calm
Es incomparable el caminante de finales , al lado del fenómeno ! Tiene que comprar huevos ese HDP primero para compararlo al gordo Ronaldo ! Lo quieren comparar a Maradona, Ronaldinho , Riquelme , Zidane , y no hermano es un producto de la Playstation , sin sangre , carácter , huevos etc etc , juega en el Barcelona , ahí es un fenómeno , no comparen por favor , no le ata los cordones a los fenómenos que te nombre !
Keep Calm BRASIL
fenomeno best ever !!!!!!!!!
Prime messi far more COMPLETE
Messi widely considered the GOAT by majority of pros pundits and fans. Around the world.
Who cares what a minority think
Ronaldo is heart and soul of futbol. No other has ever been as gifted as him. He was Gods gift to the futbol field!
@@gabourizk1 in YOUR opinion
MAJORITY of the world disagrees. I follow MAJORITY
And r9 in his prime was a striker/scorer.
Messi in his prime was more than a scorer. MORE GIFTED. MORE COMPELTE. He had better passing vision, more assists, better dribbling and SCORING despite being a winger.
Felicito a Messi y a Maradona por todo lo que han ganado son grandísimos futbolistas; PERO NO SE COMPAREN NUNCA CON EL FENÓMENO, ÉL ES ÚNICO, FUE UN CAPRICHO DE LOS DIOSES Y ESO YA LO HACE SOBRENATURAL
Soy argentino, amo el fútbol y a mí selección Argentina, y no me importa que me critiquen los de mí país, pero para mí Ronaldo Nazario fue el mejor jugador que vi en mí vida y fue el mejor de todos... Ronaldo fue el fenómeno del fútbol mundial ⚽❤️
Calla la boca becil
No hay comparacion alguna, el Fenomeno Ronaldo es un Dios del futbol, lo mas parecido a Pele. Messi gran jugador, uno de los mejores que he visto. Ronaldo la magia se fue con el, no he visto ningun jugador driblear como el, en un metro cuadrado y sin carrera, era maravilloso lo que hacia, nadie se le iguala solo Pele.
Messi es mejor
@@robertquinteros3818 messi solo en su mierdalona 💩 es bueno en la seleccion es un tronco 😆
@@robertquinteros3818 nunca lei un chiste tan bueno como ese 😂👏
Pelé es una mierdaaaaa...
Cómo dices Ronaldo es un dios más del fútbol, Messi es el Dios de los dioses.
As Maradona said, without Ronaldo's injury we were not even discussing who was the best!!!
That was before messi lol.
@@Eric-hu2dw no lol
@@Ioannis_ yes lol
R9 Is The Real 🐐🐐
@@soorajcnair418 2007 before messi?
Ronaldo Luis Nazario de Lima R9 . El Phenomeno best ever attacking player. Zidane said it many times and he was also the one of the best playmakers.
Messi várias bolas de ouro ,mais fenômeno só existe um , RONALDO ( R9) !!!!
ruclips.net/video/z0rS-laDNkk/видео.html
RONALDO R9
POR FAVOR, NO HAY COMPARACION.... los que vimos jugar al fenómeno sabemos que esta entre los tres mejores de la historia. y si no hubiera sido por las lesiones que lo persiguieron, estaríamos hablando del n°1.
Jhonatan Vargas
malditas lesiones que lo dejaron casi dos años afuera de la cancha y apenas volvió ganó un mundial el fenomeno.
Aqui é Brasil cara R9 eo melhor compra esse podre com o ídolo brasileiro vcs querem morrer ne ?
Ese Jhonatan si le sabe, muy bien dicho mi chingon saludos
Jhonatan Vargas Ronaldo foi um ET que nasceu no Brasil
Ronaldo R9 El major de todos los tiempo...mi respecto a Messi
Muchas drogas amigo?
@@maxsavage3998 Ronaldo Nazario demostró nivel en todos los clubes en los que jugó, es bicampeón del mundo y bicampeón de América con Brasil, y todo eso con una sola rodilla.l y con hipertiroidismo.....
@@maxsavage3998 acaso Messi le gana técnicamente, tiene más velocidad, paso por más equipos que R9? 🤔 por favor R9 gano el mundial siendo goleador y mejor jugador ⚽ y con una rodilla, a nivel de selección R9 tuvo mejor carrera que Messi, aparte en condiciones, manera de jugar y talento R9 es mejor y con mucha diferencia.
Hay una diferencia muy grande , a Messi mayormente los rivales lo siguen, al fenomeno lo quieren romper en todas las jugadas.
No hables estupideces queres, a Messi ya van varias veces que lo quieren partir.
Ya contra Venezuela casi le terminan la carrera con una patada que le hubiera terminado la carrera a cualquiera.
@@lucianoovejero4632 comparado con las de Ronaldo, muy pocas veces, lo que sí es que los cracks estan más protegidos que antes por los árbitros.
La diferencia es que Messi es como un Maradona pero menos rústico y con menos liderazgo, y Ronaldo fue un fenómeno nunca antes visto que cambio el fútbol para siempre....
Los rivales de ronaldo eran unos carniceros y de messi unos conos ...la mayoría corre con el jaja
Maldini, De Boer, Thuram, Cannavaro, Nesta, Ayala, Puyol, Stam había cada asesino en la época de Ronaldo, a Messi lo marcan una generación de defensores que no tienen instinto asesino, el único defensor picante que enfrentó Messi es Sergio Ramos y nadie más.....
El mundo extrana a un jugador irrepetible.un jugador humilde aun siendo el mejor de la historia aunque lo quieran negar.TE EXTRANAMOS RONALDO NAZARIO(FENOMENO) cristiano es cristiano.messi es messi.pero ronaldo es EL FENOMENOOOOOOOOOO
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El único fenómeno que marcó historia en selección de su país y en sus equipos y tetracampeón es Ronaldo no ay otro en la historia
Ronaldo dribling: Maldini, Nesta, Hierro, Desailly, Stam, Cannavaro.....Messi dribling: Pepe, Sergio Ramos, Boateng, Kompany, A.Bilbao, A.Madrid, Sevilha, Betis.............
Madrid has best defense in the world and the stats to back it up
Go whatch how Maldini, Nesta and Cannavaro got humiliated by Tierry Henry in Euro 2000's Final. Go watch how Suerez (with Ajax) and Messi fucked Nesta in 2011/2012 CL. Messi the most talented and best player of all time would beat any defender he wants to beat so stop with your cheap crap
Henry was another great player, Messi humiliated Nesta when she was already at the end of career, Ronaldo is better than Messi, if he had not been hurt would have been 5 times the world's best, Ronaldinho was another genius, to 15 years behind the level of football was another my little friend!
You are talking about stats, lets bring the same ac milan team - baresi = 55-60 unbeaten run, with least goals conceded.
TheDazzler420 how much is least goals conceded and i talking present time.
R9 is the most gifted player in history to bad he get injured but we all know he was the best because he is still the youngest player in history to win ballon d'or in the golden era of football so that means something when you have so many stars in that time and he was so much ahead he was just brilliant. GOAT
@AMA 55 NIDHIN JOBI u can easily c in this video who was better but clearly u are blind or doesn't know whayt football is about
@@beny6138 this video has no footage from the best of what messi done over the year, not even close. R9 entire career at his best was only 2-3 years before he got that horrific injury, after the injury he ain't even close compare to messii.
Messi Is the best
Ronaldo.
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Como van a comparar a Messi con el gran ronaldo el fenomeno
Francisco G
Ni que Messi fuese un jugador que no ha demostrado absolutamente nada. Leo los comentarios y ya parece que Messi es sólo una promesa al lado de Ronaldo jjaja
@@manuelnavarro5267 quizas es por que no viste jugar a Ronaldo 👍
@@martin.azcurra5998
Si lo vi jugar, y era explosividad pura en sus años en el Barça y en el Inter y poco más. Pero las lesiones y las fiestas (mujeres) mermaron bastante su desempeño.
@@martin.azcurra5998 JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA
@@manuelnavarro5267 el hipertiroidismo arruino la carrera de Ronaldo, Ademas yo pienso que Messi no es tan inferior a Ronaldo, al contrario pienso que Messi es lo mas parecido a Ronaldo que eh visto..
A little background, R9 at the age of 24 had a major injury and stayed out of the pitch for one year and a half before returning again and scoring 8 goals on world cup and winning it. Messi is a fantastic player for sure and it is really amazing watching him play incredible football. But stop comparing him to the phenomenon who even though was seriously injured more times showed the world that he was there and delighted us with his skills over and over again. And talk about personalities between the two? ronaldo wins hands down
PSV, Barca, and Inter R9 was and still is the most dominant force ever to step foot on a pitch. He was out of this world unstoppable. Never seen anything like it, and probably never will.
messi have much more free space for playing and dribling and ronaldo play in harder era...ronaldo was phenomenom
Nesta in his prime could not contain R9, while the aging Nesta is still able to contain messi. This speaks volume about the force of nature that is the Phenomenon.
Stop lieing. Nesta stopped Messi once, but got humilated in the rest of the battles.
That's my point, old Nesta was 36 years old at the time and playing his last years at AC Milan and still manage to contain a peak 24 year old Messi in some moments at that match. Now imagine what an absolute peak Nesta can do to him. If you feel proud just because a peak Messi manage to beat an old Nesta then go on ahead.
you are literally in every nesta vs messi dispute! It looks like you have some messi vs nesta detector!!! Hahahahahaha
The difference between Nesta vs Messi and Nesta vs R9 is that Nesta stopped messi, and nesta didn't stop R9.
Get over yourself Messi only scored by penalties against Nesta!!!!
Nesta did not contain Messi. Why do you have to lie? are you stupid?
Messi dribbled past Nesta many times, and very easily.
msanm5 Yes, but I'm saying Nesta also stopped Messi. There are many clips that shows it, many sport articles saying how the slide tackle on Messi was one of the best tackles in history and it shows the quality of a world class defender. Without a doubt if you go to 1000 people (assuming they are both Nesta and Messi fan) and say that messi trampled nesta, they'd tell you, you don't know football. The reputation given between these two is that Nesta stopped more times Messi, than Messi passed Nesta.
And no not very easily otherwise their matches wouldn't end as 0-0, 0-1, 2-2, 1-1, 2-1, 1-0, 3-2.