Messalina - Real Faces - The Julio-Claudian Dynasty - Ancient Roman Faces - Young Nero
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2021
- We go back in time and visit a more detailed and optimized face re-creation of the infamous Messalina, third wife of the Roman emperor Claudius, notorious for licentious behavior, promiscuity and instigating murderous court intrigues.
We also give a good look to the first imperial dynasty of ancient Rome, the Julio-Claudian dynasty and some of its most prominent members. Agrippina the Younger, emperor Claudius, and a young Nero.
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I am such a fan of ancient Rome and history in general...so seing the "real " faces of those who up to now have only existed In the pages of history books is something truly wonderful!!!
Some of faces look like someone I knew in High School.
I think the faces are quite accurate (not that we can know for sure how they looked precisely) and it's amazing how for the first we can look into the true eyes of those who lived long, long ago. It makes me feel more interested in their lived
These aren't exact, it is as if the reconstruction has been purposely changed slightly to hide the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
Amazing job as always...i had watched on t.v 35 years ago a BBC series named "I Claudius" with Derek Jacobi in the leading role of Claudius....i strongly recomend it to the younger viewers, if it's possible to find it somehow, because it is is an excellent historical presentation of that era, a t.v masterpiece with great british actors.👍👏❤
It was a masterpiece wasn’t it. 👵👵👵🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
I Claudius - a fabulous series, indeed a masterpiece!
Brilliant series. Huge fan of Derek Jacobi. I remember Patrick Stewart as Sejanus. He had a little bit more hair then.
We watched the series religiously each Sunday night on PBS during high school years..
Yes, I fondly remember that BBC series I, Claudius. It was excellent. I would imagine it holds up even now so many years later. Good Art does that!
I Claudius, a truly ground-breaking series blessed with a magnificent cast. Admittedly having watched it again some of the acting is risible. However, the greatest performance was the wonderful Sian Williams as Livia, the personification of evil.
correcto
"Do you find it risible, when I say the naaame...Bigus Dickus?"
A chillingly reverent presentation. Messalina especially seems so amicable--a girl-next-door type. A casual observer who didn't know any of them would probably never imagine how much evil that face masked. But as was previously mentioned by another commentator, she was the product of some very unfortunate circumstances.
Fabulous, excellent presentation, and very engaging as always. TY, Panagiotis ❤️🙏
Great as always. I appreciate this beautiful gift you give to all history lovers.
Wow..Messsalina was quite a hottie 😃I'm in awe at your fantastic work,the detail is astonishing and the snippets of information give them more life, thank you.
I only just learned this week that Sheila White, who portrayed her in I Claudius, passed away in 2018. However inaccurate the miniseries may have been, in a lot of ways, she really nailed that performance.
I'll say one thing for Messalina, based on readings, docs & Dramas. At least her cruelty was aimed at the powerful (senators et al) rather than the poor slaves, which seemed to be the way of her contemparies.
Always amazing! I always look forward to your post! Very hard work you go through and to share. Thank you so much !
Beautiful Messalina. I like very much this channel with the most accurate look of these historically known persons!
Excellent and enjoyable, as always. Thank you very much, Panagiotis 🌷🌷🌷
Thank you for posting this,excellent portrayals.
Terrific, absolutely terrific. Thank you.
Thank you I really found this really interesting and informative
So well done!!!
I absolutely love Ancient Rome so thankful you
Funny.messalina and agripinna looked like twin sisters in your rendition.
Feels like keeping it in the family creates doppelgängers
Well, their grandmothers were sisters, so it's no surprise :)
They were pretty closely related so there'd be a family resemblance. They also both were pretty ruthless
@@karenwoith8032 nympho incest. So Roman.
Another fun fact: Agripppina and her husband, Gnaeus Domitius Ahenobarbus (Nero's father), were first cousins once removed. And Gnaeus was also Messalina's uncle :)
Such a wonderful video!! Thank you..💝🎁🎈
Very intriguing. Thank you 💜
good stuff mate
Incredibly excelent work
A great and informative presentation.
Thank you kindly!
Excelente trabajo , muchas gracias !!.
Messalina looks like she could devour someone. Her gaze is off.
Amazing stuff, could you please do ancient Persians especially from Achaemenid Empire, Such as Cyrus the great and Darius the great. that would be amazing.
I second that notion.The Persians have been under rated in the West rather like Byzantium (now Instanbul)
Great job man!
Great renditions! I don't know why but I always thought Nero was red headed with freckles 🤔. I totally lost myself in their genealogy, I will watch this video over and over again!😁
Suetonius description of Nero was written to please the Senate in later years. Sadly Suetonius and other records of Neros reign written after his depth were probably all written to discredit him. Not that he was a paragon of virtue but he was probably not nearly as ghastly as his "reputation" would lead us to believe.
These video's are the work of a genius. Very well done.
Fantastic work.
To see all these incredible historical Roman faces of such importance. Commanding such a presence in their time.
One is in awe of the life like recreations.
Caligula utterly terrifying.
Those eyes of his must have wished you were no where near him when he went on his insane rampages.
Little boots had a tragic childhood.
One wonders if that played a large part in his mental imbalance.
Great work.
Enjoyed watching.
Bellissima presentazione!!!
It is said that Messalina nicknamed herself "The invincible" because no man could satisfied her.
So good, very interesting characters! I love Roman History.
Thanks Mr.P
I've always wondered if ruining her reputation wasn't just so Emperor Claudius could execute her and marry Agrippina the younger, who he might have already been involved with. She was definitely a master of such intrigue. Nero was the ruthless Emperor who followed, he could have made certain that was the official story from then on.
Actually not. Maybe there were fabrications as well but both Messalina and Agrippina wholy deserved their reputation. So many other women were wives of Emperors and even unpopular Emperors and yet they never gathered any attention to the point that we hardly know their names. Messalina and Agrippina were truly monstrous women. Their only reason for being there was rather the Julio-Claudian family's will to keep it in the family and play it Ptolemey-style, well that didn't work did it?
If anyone got a bad name quite unfairly that was Nero. Yes, he got mad and killed his mother and wife (also a nutcase) but who can blame him given the type of women these were? You have to understand that e.g. exiling these women would not be enough since they had high connections and could always instigate an assassination - and yes, these were the type of women that could assassinate their own son. Nero was not that bad, he wanted to rejuvenate an Empire which though still young had its issues. He believed it had to be done through cultural advancement and him, akin to the arts, wanted to give the example. Of course he was mocked as a "circus actor" and considered as unfit for Emperor. He was also unfairly accused of starting the fire in Rome and singing over it, but then him too unfairly dropped the blame to Christians. Romans!
Love this.
excellent!
Bellissimo !!!
this is insane! Nice!!!!
These rulers were pure evil 👿
Excellent. Thank you
No different to the rulers of today sadly
Thanks ! 👏👏👏👏
Superb
Superb job hope you consider the Etruscans
Poor Messalina! From puberty until her father died, her father forced her to marry a different man every year and to divorce the last one, according to who could increase the family wealth and power. She wound up with Claudius because he happened to be the one in her father's favor when the old man died. Is it any wonder that she had no sense of sexual boundaries, and accounted (as she'd been taught) wealth and power as worth more than self-respect?
Generally people aren't born that way, the environment they are brought up in makes them that way. A world of wolves and sheep. The sheep won't survive for long, the wolf might. If these women had for example been brought up in the middle class of Roman society they most likely wouldn't have turned out this way. If they had been lower class they just might. Hunger and hunger for power are the same type of motivator for people in the "right" circumstances.
When Messalina died, she was 18 y.o.
@@claudiobovier7173 28, but you're not wrong about that still being appalling. Throughout most of what her father subjected her to she wasn't adult.
Almost as unfortunate as poor Lucrezia Borgia...
@@rudra7387 She survived her father and brother, but died at 39, but she had 10 children.
Well done
So amazing.
Cool !
You can see the inbreeding in Nero. Agrippina doesn’t look as mad as I thought she would, but there is indeed something ugly about her expression that makes her beauty totally secondary. Messalina looked great, and screw their damnatio memorae. I’m glad that we know about her and of how she double crossed all of those know it all males. The senators that she got killed were all over privileged, corrupt politicians. Her world dictated that one should swim or die, she opted for swimming, and swam a longer distance than she would have, had she adopted the position of a passive, pretty, compliant pond _good for her.
Great job, excellent job Messalena😯
Thank you 👏
Good Job.
Messalina's smiling face is creepy as hell. Just in time for Halloween. 😱
Nice, could you do Irene of Athens and her
son Constantine
This Video is a master Lesson of History , but in a funny , original and top 10 Style, ...my CONGRATULATIONDS, TEACHER.....
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If I were a old TV network producer, I would give Messalina her own TV show and call it, "Ista Puella!"
Wow...She was a beautiful woman!
Beautiful work, but I think it would be great if you could show these characters with more expressions, as Angry, sad, luscious, mad.
I have to wonder if any of the Julio-Claudians died a natural death. Seems even the women meet a sticky end.
Augustus died of old age and supposedly not poisoned
@@karenwoith8032 Well, at least he wasn’t killed by his own guards. The Praetorians are the worst guards ever. It’s one thing to fail to stop an assassination attempt. It’s another thing when the body guards are also the assassins.
@@karenwoith8032 Livia was 88 and apparently died of natural causes via illness and old age.
Great.
I love your work and the fact that you are Greek!
I was right! Last week I guessed she was Messalina..
Maravilloso resúmen, impactantes los rostros de seres tan abominables¡¡¡
Gracias por teste excelente video
Seres abominables?? Estos son rostros legendarios, son los rostros de los padres de la civilización occidental, de la cultura Europea occidental, estas son personas legendarias, no "seres abominables"
I was desperate to see Agrippina. 🙏
Класс!!! Блеск!!! Супер!!!
Please do Irene of Athens
What a messed up family.
Really like your videos, but I wish the text would stay up a bit longer. Pausing to read them is distracting.
There's more than enough time to read it. I can, and I m not a native English reader/speaker.
Thanx! Please add Britannicus (son of Claudius and Messalina)
WOW...YET AGAIN!
Very well done. However, all historical sources say that Valeria Messalina had jet black hair. And the (tall) emperor Claudius was already white-haired when he ascended the throne.
Messalina sounds like a real charmer. Not! In fact, both women depicted here sound less than desirable people. I love how you bring these folk to life, and give us information like Nero was spotty and smelly! I’ve never thought of him as that way before… 😄
K.A Hosack, IWU, can one believe the ancient sources that describe messolina? Has another take. Ancient historians are notoriously using politics and their own agendas..even if for funnies...to slander those they didn't know. Suetoniusdidnt have access to historical records by the time he took on messalina.......
Amazing reconstruction of Royal figures. Messalina was sadistic cute lady.😜👻🇨🇦
Wonderful, thank you. Poor Claudius did suffer but he turned out to be quite a good Emperor. It's a shame they didn't get rid of Melissa earlier, she sounds absolutely lethal. Well done Narcissus for finally killing her. What a family! So inbred and many totally insane. Marvellous, thank you xxxxx🎄👏🌟
Messalnia lost her head in the 1970's classic I Claudius.
Apparently they took some "artistic" license there. All the historical record says is she placed a dagger against her throat and chest and then a tribune ran the dagger through her abdomen. After she died, her body was then given to her mother.
@@AgentWD40x Good point. This was a great series though. My favorite part was when Claudius caught the wolf pup on his lap when two eagles fought over the pup. The symbolism was obvious.
Sir, could you do me a favor to animate a photo of my grandfather? I never ever saw his face since i was born. I just have a picture of him.
I always hear about these statues being taken down by their adversaries, yet the pictures of: Geta, Messalina, Caligula, Nero, etc survived . So what happened they didn't follow orders?
So numerous they were that the images couldn't be eliminated all.
Messalina was beautiful!
Excellent. The familial connection is very evident in that Messalina and Agrippina look like twins. According to the historic descriptions, I think perhaps their hair could be lighter, especially Nero’s. Can anyone who has studied the ancient Romans tell me where they came from? I once read that “…the Romans invaded Italy,” which indicates they were not ancient Italians. Also, any recommendations for literature on the subject would be appreciated! 🙋🏻♀️
The ancient Patrician class of Romans taught they were the descendants of Ennius.. who was a refugee from the Trojan War…. but that is mythology. But this was the initial “Patrician” (founding Father) and Plebians.. But no…. up until Augustus only Romans were considered to have lived in the City of Roman… except for citizenship… Augustus made all Italians citizens…
….in regards to Hair color.. Even by the time of the Caesars the coloring was a variable as most of Europe today.
You MIGhT be thinking of the Early Middle Ages when Lombards and Vandals (Germans) invaded the Italian peninsula and established Germanic Kingdoms.
Power poisons families. Claudius conquered Britain to prove he was qualified. Nero wanted to be an actor... sadly he was also the emperor.
Messalina had black hair according to ancient historians.
Never understood why ancient Romans have to be "germanized" ... They were italians like today italians. Genetic tests proved that very little has changed in 2000 years. Of course there were fair.skinned, light haired or eyed "Romans", but the vast majority of the population looked like today's Italian.
MESSALINA was probably similar to ...."Maria Grazia Cucinotta" and Claudius was.similar to a "Marcello Mastroianni" probably....
@@Ekphrasys However, it is also a misunderstanding that today's Italians are mostly black- haired and with dark eyes and skin. A large part of the population has these features, but blondish and blue/green eyed people are not that uncommon in Italy. My mother (Italian) for instance has the same "colour scheme" as the Roman women in this video.
But when it comes to ancient Rome we can only rely on the contemporary sources, which sometimes did not bother to be overly specific in the descriptions or tended to focus more on aspects that they could connect more to virtue or lack of thereof.
@@Ekphrasys do you know how much water has flowed from the river after 2000 years? Italy has always been a country where everyone came and everyone went, especially in the last 5-600 years. however, 2000 years ago, ethnically no country in Europe was as we see it now.
@@paxetamor8276 well don't tell me. Ask biologists who made tests from random dnas taken all over Italy. The most part were very similar to an average italian of the xxi century...
@@Ekphrasys when I talk about people, I also and above all talk about DNA. According to scholars, the appearance of Homo sapiens in the Italian geographical region can be dated to the Upper Paleolithic, a period that extends between 40,000 years and 10,000 years ago. these were native Italians, now consider that
Italy has always been a kind of corridor, where people from all over Europe, Asia and Africa have had a presence, with the Roman Empire Italy has become the first multicultural country in Europe, now it would be funny to talk about its own Italian DNA, when in reality there are cribs from all over the world.
to do an in-depth research on who the first Italians are and how they were, it is impossible to do it, because it would be necessary to go back to who has been truly Italian for over 1000 or 2000 years, perhaps not even Maria Grazia Cucinotta and Marcello Mastroianni are truly Italian from beyond 1000 years. the same is true for other European countries as well.
one thing is certain, we are all human beings.
Hi can u do Henry viii six wives real faces or Edward his son
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All Messalina statues taken down? - have I not heard that idea somewhere else.
Thank you very much for your kindness
Let us into the civilizatio of magnificient
Roman Empire which is the most interesting of all histories of Humanity
Laughing fun exciting and weeping at.thr end How far is the glory of this world
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Not a fan of the Messalina moptop. Agrippa gets no mention? He was the grandfather of Agrippina the Younger (whence the name). Agrippa's name is on the front facade of the Pantheon.
You are welcome!
He made the decision to be second in command to octavius all his life and that is why he does not get the recognition he deserves
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Charmante 💕 la Messaline !
Ugh! she looks a lot like my mom when young, of course she is also of full Italian ethnicity as Messalina was
Thanks God I don't look like Nero
@@Numischannel 😅😅😅
Nero has that punch me kind of face.
Messalina is gorgeous. I'm afraid I would have fallen victim to her charms.
I would die for her
She would have lead you to perdition...
Messalina renascida, eu te amo.
Se essa for a imagem próxima do real de Messalina ela era muito bonita.
30/10/2021.
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cual esta banda sonora del video
a thousend likes speaks a lot about people of this day and age..
Character aside, Messalina looks like quite the hottie!
Messalina looks like my ex who betrayed me. #pooruncleclaudius