Nice setup. Those "KL"s are nice little amps for little money. Just keep the wattage low and they'll last. Shot a lot of skip with one behind my DX2547 and a Big Stick on a 5' umbrella pole
Hey Charles I too have a kL503HD behind a Lincoln2+ and I don’t get those results!! Lol I know they will do it I’ve seen lots of videos showing such… I think I know why tho and let me know if you’ve any other ideas k I’m running a whole 12v system in the house with a 2A trickle charger (it’s an auto charge type) the problem is even tho I have very clean power from that battery I’m only using 12.8-12.3 V then i turn the amp off and the charger back on while I just listen for a while lol I think if I have one more volt in I’d get another 100 out !! Sounds like a lot but it’s the sweet spot ya know… I get about 175 out of mine and it doesn’t change when I drive that Lincoln up all the way but when I key up I see lights dim… In my experience that’s not good to under drive anymore than it is to over drive… I haven’t put that combo in the van yet perhaps then the alternators output will give me that extra 1-1.5V hmm 🤔
@Dave Nelson mine set at 13.6 I believe. Your right tho if I turn down to 12v watts go down..how may watts your radio pushing in amp? My galaxy saturn doing 35.dead key set to 2 watts.swing to 35.
@@charlessalard4636 if I’m not mistaken that Lincoln does 28w all the way up and 2.5 all the way down so I run it at about 9:30-10 ish gives me about 22-25 on the dosy with antenna so as they say it’s fake news?? I guess the proof is in the pudding when you measure bird watts with a dummy load… either way it doesn’t get hot and it’s not blown up yet lol.. one day I was in a conversation with two locals one about 13 miles away and the other 25 using the McKinley and 200p that little amp got pretty warm but I was keyed for like 2-3 minute and had been doing that for a half hour or so…. Still not bad but yea keep em cool and powered up and don’t drive them hard and they work great
I have that same amplifier in my Jeep hooked up to my President Bill radio. If I have conditions, I can talk coast to coast with a little 4 foot Browning antenna. For the money, they're useful little amplifiers and they get you over the DX hurdle on AM (I only talk on AM.) More is better, but only having to worry about 10 amps worth of power into the back of it makes it easy for almost anyone to install.
Glad you are aware of the power input limitations of the KL200p. I had one a while ago and found that my audio was distorted somewhat on SSB and, I was only able to use it effectively on FM! I hope you have a better time with it on SSB. I now run the RM KL 703 which seems to work well on SSB and FM. Thanks for the video John.. Always appreciated.
Mower Junkie, you look like you have a lot of fun, I can't believe you fit that big monster in the dash! I'll be waiting on a range test of that set up.... I love your range test video's.... shows us what a good CB set up right can do.... but I don't know how far you're going to have to go to reach back to your base station with that big amp... but I'm waiting for the video... thanks for doing these videos.
Nice little amps for the mobile, I run a KL203p in my pickup with a Anytone 5555n wit a 102" stainless steel whip...best mobile setup I've ever owned...73' from Yellowknife..WR115
Hey yellow knife isn't the 5555n too hot for the 203 or do you set dial a watt ,down?? My galaxy 99v2 does peak am at 42 but I can turn down to .5 my thoughts now are why tune down just to go up 35-40 more than radio peaked at ???
@@georgegetterdone896 , I turn the RF power control on the front of the radio to around 3 watt dead key on AM/FM, and on ssb I run it at full and I'm seeing 75-80+ watts on AM/FM and on ssb around 160+ into a 102" whip...been using it for over a year and half with no issues.
@@howardsansome3560 as I have a 99v2 doing flat out 40 both am and ssb ( am hi dk is 12 pep to 42hellof a swing,right? ) Ssb pep doing just over 40 but can turn output down to less than 1 am and with d104 hand mike and mic gain maxed still shoots for 35 afraid to put any thing but HD equipt after it ( it's not even maxed this is optimal but over 85% duty st up by screw driver at Bells cb Florida ) my two pills I have are operating classics one is from late 1960s a digital sports systems amp built in Iowa saw that one hit 180 with standard " cb " set up of 4 watt pep amto 7 put the galaxyyon it left it 50% output at over 20 pep am and almost 30 ssb held its own but being about 65 years old it mote likely needs recapping and bias updating it only has delay and in ssb has raspy ending just as unkey and is slightly compressed on transmit but worth keeping just for antiquity sevond one is pride 100a two pill his transmit swr issue but if not in active passes fine a So close to 60 years old from early 1970s built in America by proud handicapable employees!!!
Can’t go wrong with a 203. Actually has 4 mosfets. Also it’s a 100w amp. Those extra 40w are harmonics. Put a low pass filter and those 40w disappear. Still a cool little amp though.
Those little RM Italy kl200p uses a single SD1446 bipolar rf transistor. Don't over drive it. About 2 watts carrier key + modulation to about 13 watts is about all it can accept and last. The SD 1446 device is going away soon as manufacturer has discontinued them. So if you want a reasonable priced cb amp, better get one now. You can expect 50 + watts RMS from the unit and if you use good quality coax and a good performance antenna it will do a pretty good job. It will help you get over the noise a good bit farther down the road and in reality, that's all that is actually needed. The kl - 203 amps use mosfet finals, that won't have the potential life span capabilities and it's super trashy with harmonics and distorted audio that causes bleed over. Overall the SD1446 is by far a much better device to achieve a modest goal and do it in a clean manner. 73 Earnest K5EWM. I have been a licensed amateur radio operator since 1976. 73 and GOD bless K5EWM.
I have that same amp actually a couple of them. But mine is just the 203. I have it as a part of my in house mobile/base unit. Does good from what I here and also on the meter.
I could have swore I heard you in there the other day but couldn’t reach you… funny thing is I have the same amp in the Escalade with a McKinley and Stryker antenna… I have two of these amps and there both fantastic both kicking about 150 peak I’m running low input power not more that 3.2am and 9 ish ssb the other is in mamas Prius with the same radio and the base is a Lincoln 2+ with. 503hd this on is running Low input wattage and getting low numbers because my system voltage is only 12.3V All of them have very low swr and work fantastically especially the receive kicker (funny thing is the red one can be on by itself the black one needs amp on to run the receive hmm 🤔 they all work great don’t over power them I hear… I’ll keep reaching out to ya Mower Junkie love your videos… Norther California Motor Mouth WWS4177 73’s
I have a radio that was tuned to be used with an amp but I got rid of my amp in the 90's. Old guy at my local CB shop scared me and said the FCC would get me if i used the amp. I used to be able to talk skip really good when I had my amp. I can't get through anymore with stock radio. I still have my tuned radio but don't really use it much. I would love to get set up to talk skip again.
I don't know about it being an anti theft device.......But it is a good Anti-Wife setup, She can't drive a standard shift. Yup, the McKinley is back on the shelf. Have a good weekend Joe, 73's
@@JoeR203 I can't speak for everyone but the one that I have is worthless. All that I can hear is noise. It's mounted in my shack with the power cord unhooked. Just been to lazy to sell it.
A couple of things to look out for on these amps. Remove the cover and check the soldering on the so239 sockets, had a few cold soldered over the years. Learned that one when it took out the transistor. The switches are poor quality and either fail completely or make poor contact giving a bit of resistance.
During the CB craze of the 1970s, most cars had alternators capable of a whopping 25 amps. Cars with A/C might have a 40 amp alternator. When you keyed up the big tube amps the headlights would go dim! Serious operators scrounged the junkyards for wrecked police cars and the legendary Leece-Neville alternator. That was then. With the advent of electronic everything on modern cars you'd be hard-pressed to find a car with an alternator of less than 100 amps output.
the KL 200p is actually rated at 100 watts AM, and 200 watts SSB. I have seen 200 out of it when I had it on my base antenna. Thanks for watching, Take care.
@@MowerJunkie I got the kl200p I've had it since 2014. I've hooked up the terminals backwards 🤦🤦 lucky it had internal fuse that protected it. I've hit it with 50 watts swing driving it now for a few years since 2019. My 200p makes a 100 watts only if I have absolutely no swr it might go a little bit over 100 but not much, it does have a Motorola mrf 455 transistor in it so it's a good one. I hear the mosfet amps like to pop the mosfets if you go over the wattage and if you have much over 1.2 swr. But none the less these amps are decent reliable units😃 oh the only reason it hits 50 watts swing is my Lincoln 2+ since I took out audio limiter it swings or is wide open power I can adjust the dead key down which is the most critical issue with these amps is the dead key. I can also adjust the pep swing by adjusting the mic gain
I recently got the Red Version of this unit. I think it's about 200W. Problem is, I cant find a place to mount it! I have a 2017 F150 with the center console. I mounted my CB Radio just on the left side facing straight up! I did hook it up and tested it. If you key your mic for too long, it gets really HOT!? Maybe I should get one like yours??
I run my GrantXL at 3/4 mic gain...4 pill Palomar Elite line and a 102 ss whip. Working great for 15 years with low swr. I'm wondering if your mic gain is too high... shouldn't hear the amp. Great video. I lost 3 grantxl to a flood. Just happy my 4th was high and dry in my truck.
Hi Mr mower junkie I'm assuming you tuned in the arial to a good swr. Did you check the swr once you installed amplifier. I'm always concerned about my swr. What do you think is a good swr to operate a cb radio. I'm using a boat whip on my car
If. You really want to get this thing rocking? Put 8 gauge wire and then. Toshiba red dot 2879. They're on eBay Then have it done professionally. Installed, then hook it back up and do a video of this
Barbara should be able to hear you when you’re traveling 25 plus miles away on a errand. So good 😊.
Nice setup. Those "KL"s are nice little amps for little money. Just keep the wattage low and they'll last. Shot a lot of skip with one behind my DX2547 and a Big Stick on a 5' umbrella pole
Thats a set up I could love. A simple mobile rig pushing 140 shoud give a guy enough talk power to not be frustrated.
I have kl 503 hd .great clean amplifier. Does 300 watts.great pre amp.
Hey Charles I too have a kL503HD behind a Lincoln2+ and I don’t get those results!! Lol I know they will do it I’ve seen lots of videos showing such… I think I know why tho and let me know if you’ve any other ideas k I’m running a whole 12v system in the house with a 2A trickle charger (it’s an auto charge type) the problem is even tho I have very clean power from that battery I’m only using 12.8-12.3 V then i turn the amp off and the charger back on while I just listen for a while lol
I think if I have one more volt in I’d get another 100 out !! Sounds like a lot but it’s the sweet spot ya know… I get about 175 out of mine and it doesn’t change when I drive that Lincoln up all the way but when I key up I see lights dim…
In my experience that’s not good to under drive anymore than it is to over drive… I haven’t put that combo in the van yet perhaps then the alternators output will give me that extra 1-1.5V hmm 🤔
@Dave Nelson mine set at 13.6 I believe. Your right tho if I turn down to 12v watts go down..how may watts your radio pushing in amp? My galaxy saturn doing 35.dead key set to 2 watts.swing to 35.
@@charlessalard4636 if I’m not mistaken that Lincoln does 28w all the way up and 2.5 all the way down so I run it at about 9:30-10 ish gives me about 22-25 on the dosy with antenna so as they say it’s fake news?? I guess the proof is in the pudding when you measure bird watts with a dummy load… either way it doesn’t get hot and it’s not blown up yet lol.. one day I was in a conversation with two locals one about 13 miles away and the other 25 using the McKinley and 200p that little amp got pretty warm but I was keyed for like 2-3 minute and had been doing that for a half hour or so…. Still not bad but yea keep em cool and powered up and don’t drive them hard and they work great
I have that same amplifier in my Jeep hooked up to my President Bill radio. If I have conditions, I can talk coast to coast with a little 4 foot Browning antenna. For the money, they're useful little amplifiers and they get you over the DX hurdle on AM (I only talk on AM.) More is better, but only having to worry about 10 amps worth of power into the back of it makes it easy for almost anyone to install.
Everyone says the same thing, don't overdrive them. 👍😎 Nice one Mr mower junky 🙂
Glad you are aware of the power input limitations of the KL200p. I had one a while ago and found that my audio was distorted somewhat on SSB and, I was only able to use it effectively on FM! I hope you have a better time with it on SSB. I now run the RM KL 703 which seems to work well on SSB and FM. Thanks for the video John.. Always appreciated.
Thanks for the video! Just bought the same amp last week but I haven't installed it yet. Greetings from Amsterdam, The Netherlands
Looks like a great little amp. Nice compact size!
That's a bad ass set up right there bro
This is Mamacat awesome set-up That comes in great
I have the same amp that I run with my stock Bearcat 980 SSB. No adjustments needed and it sounds great. Thanks for the video!
We have talked three times and your radio does sound really good and clear.
Mower Junkie, you look like you have a lot of fun, I can't believe you fit that big monster in the dash! I'll be waiting on a range test of that set up.... I love your range test video's.... shows us what a good CB set up right can do.... but I don't know how far you're going to have to go to reach back to your base station with that big amp... but I'm waiting for the video... thanks for doing these videos.
Nice little amps for the mobile, I run a KL203p in my pickup with a Anytone 5555n wit a 102" stainless steel whip...best mobile setup I've ever owned...73' from Yellowknife..WR115
sounds like an awesome setup you have. Take care, Thanks for watching.
Hey yellow knife isn't the 5555n too hot for the 203 or do you set dial a watt ,down?? My galaxy 99v2 does peak am at 42 but I can turn down to .5 my thoughts now are why tune down just to go up 35-40 more than radio peaked at ???
@@georgegetterdone896 , I turn the RF power control on the front of the radio to around 3 watt dead key on AM/FM, and on ssb I run it at full and I'm seeing 75-80+ watts on AM/FM and on ssb around 160+ into a 102" whip...been using it for over a year and half with no issues.
@@howardsansome3560 as I have a 99v2 doing flat out 40 both am and ssb ( am hi dk is 12 pep to 42hellof a swing,right? ) Ssb pep doing just over 40 but can turn output down to less than 1 am and with d104 hand mike and mic gain maxed still shoots for 35 afraid to put any thing but HD equipt after it ( it's not even maxed this is optimal but over 85% duty st up by screw driver at Bells cb Florida ) my two pills I have are operating classics one is from late 1960s a digital sports systems amp built in Iowa saw that one hit 180 with standard " cb " set up of 4 watt pep amto 7 put the galaxyyon it left it 50% output at over 20 pep am and almost 30 ssb held its own but being about 65 years old it mote likely needs recapping and bias updating it only has delay and in ssb has raspy ending just as unkey and is slightly compressed on transmit but worth keeping just for antiquity sevond one is pride 100a two pill his transmit swr issue but if not in active passes fine a
So close to 60 years old from early 1970s built in America by proud handicapable employees!!!
Just picked up a 203P and a President McKinley to go with it. Now need to get away from work long enough to try it out.
Thanks for sharing a great video
Can’t go wrong with a 203. Actually has 4 mosfets. Also it’s a 100w amp. Those extra 40w are harmonics. Put a low pass filter and those 40w disappear. Still a cool little amp though.
this amp is not a 203, it's a KL-200. it has a single transistor.
Those little RM Italy kl200p uses a single SD1446 bipolar rf transistor. Don't over drive it. About 2 watts carrier key + modulation to about 13 watts is about all it can accept and last. The SD 1446 device is going away soon as manufacturer has discontinued them. So if you want a reasonable priced cb amp, better get one now. You can expect 50 + watts RMS from the unit and if you use good quality coax and a good performance antenna it will do a pretty good job. It will help you get over the noise a good bit farther down the road and in reality, that's all that is actually needed. The kl - 203 amps use mosfet finals, that won't have the potential life span capabilities and it's super trashy with harmonics and distorted audio that causes bleed over. Overall the SD1446 is by far a much better device to achieve a modest goal and do it in a clean manner. 73 Earnest K5EWM. I have been a licensed amateur radio operator since 1976. 73 and GOD bless K5EWM.
I have that same amp actually a couple of them. But mine is just the 203. I have it as a part of my in house mobile/base unit. Does good from what I here and also on the meter.
cool i have two those rm kl 200 bought them back in 2018.
I could have swore I heard you in there the other day but couldn’t reach you… funny thing is I have the same amp in the Escalade with a McKinley and Stryker antenna… I have two of these amps and there both fantastic both kicking about 150 peak I’m running low input power not more that 3.2am and 9 ish ssb the other is in mamas Prius with the same radio and the base is a Lincoln 2+ with. 503hd this on is running Low input wattage and getting low numbers because my system voltage is only 12.3V
All of them have very low swr and work fantastically especially the receive kicker (funny thing is the red one can be on by itself the black one needs amp on to run the receive hmm 🤔 they all work great don’t over power them I hear… I’ll keep reaching out to ya Mower Junkie love your videos…
Norther California Motor Mouth WWS4177 73’s
I have a radio that was tuned to be used with an amp but I got rid of my amp in the 90's. Old guy at my local CB shop scared me and said the FCC would get me if i used the amp. I used to be able to talk skip really good when I had my amp. I can't get through anymore with stock radio. I still have my tuned radio but don't really use it much. I would love to get set up to talk skip again.
Those RM Italy amps are plug and play. They just plain work.
Radio loos good in the dash (5502 from Hollywood Fl.) 73's
I see your Jeep has an anti-theft device. (Manual transmission) 🙂
So the McKinley is retired from the Jeep now?
I don't know about it being an anti theft device.......But it is a good Anti-Wife setup, She can't drive a standard shift. Yup, the McKinley is back on the shelf. Have a good weekend Joe, 73's
@@MowerJunkie 🤣
I was thinking the same thing soon as I seen the clutch lever LOL
@@MowerJunkie Still waiting on that McKinley review. 🙂
@@JoeR203 I can't speak for everyone but the one that I have is worthless. All that I can hear is noise. It's mounted in my shack with the power cord unhooked. Just been to lazy to sell it.
A couple of things to look out for on these amps. Remove the cover and check the soldering on the so239 sockets, had a few cold soldered over the years. Learned that one when it took out the transistor. The switches are poor quality and either fail completely or make poor contact giving a bit of resistance.
That's cool I'm waiting for it to be on Amazon?? Huh what's the deal?
Do you have a standard alternator on that mobile? standing by on 425, for now, 9.57central time DX21
this amp only needs a maximum of 10 amps to power it, any alternator can handle the load with ease. Thanks for watching, 73's
During the CB craze of the 1970s, most cars had alternators capable of a whopping 25 amps. Cars with A/C might have a 40 amp alternator. When you keyed up the big tube amps the headlights would go dim! Serious operators scrounged the junkyards for wrecked police cars and the legendary Leece-Neville alternator.
That was then.
With the advent of electronic everything on modern cars you'd be hard-pressed to find a car with an alternator of less than 100 amps output.
Nice little amp, especially for the price!😃🇺🇸
Cheep italy amplifier 100W SSB, very popular in Europe.
100W SSB and 25-30W in AM.
Good health :)
the KL 200p is actually rated at 100 watts AM, and 200 watts SSB. I have seen 200 out of it when I had it on my base antenna. Thanks for watching, Take care.
@@MowerJunkie I got the kl200p I've had it since 2014. I've hooked up the terminals backwards 🤦🤦 lucky it had internal fuse that protected it. I've hit it with 50 watts swing driving it now for a few years since 2019. My 200p makes a 100 watts only if I have absolutely no swr it might go a little bit over 100 but not much, it does have a Motorola mrf 455 transistor in it so it's a good one. I hear the mosfet amps like to pop the mosfets if you go over the wattage and if you have much over 1.2 swr. But none the less these amps are decent reliable units😃 oh the only reason it hits 50 watts swing is my Lincoln 2+ since I took out audio limiter it swings or is wide open power I can adjust the dead key down which is the most critical issue with these amps is the dead key. I can also adjust the pep swing by adjusting the mic gain
Nice setup. What type of Guage wiring are you using for the amplifier to the battery?
very popular?????? nobady use cb . recent time on europe.
Recently, there is good propagation, you can hear the whole world, including Europe. Good health :)
That's a horrible place for the amplifier 😂 In Case of a car crash you will know why😂
It's okay, My right knee is already junk. Thanks for watching, Take care.
Lmao I too cut the shit out of my leg they are sharp aren’t they 🤣 lol
I recently got the Red Version of this unit. I think it's about 200W. Problem is, I cant find a place to mount it! I have a 2017 F150 with the center console. I mounted my CB Radio just on the left side facing straight up! I did hook it up and tested it. If you key your mic for too long, it gets really HOT!?
Maybe I should get one like yours??
Jeepers !
@Mower Junkie, Hope to see you this Saturday at Hail Street Grill in Camden. The Kershaw GMRS Group are having a meet and greet at 12:00 noon.
I guess I missed it, it's 4pm now. I should have read my comments earlier.
I run my GrantXL at 3/4 mic gain...4 pill Palomar Elite line and a 102 ss whip. Working great for 15 years with low swr. I'm wondering if your mic gain is too high... shouldn't hear the amp. Great video. I lost 3 grantxl to a flood. Just happy my 4th was high and dry in my truck.
I am looking out for your right knee cap n stuff, that kinda needs to be mounted somewhere else!!! Sorry, bud!!! 73's
Thanks a lot for vid! Your dashboard accommodates so nicely the radio! How do you feed the amp and the radio, in parallel from the same battery?
I would like to add one to my President McKinley II but dont know how to detune the wattage...
Hi Mr mower junkie I'm assuming you tuned in the arial to a good swr. Did you check the swr once you installed amplifier. I'm always concerned about my swr. What do you think is a good swr to operate a cb radio. I'm using a boat whip on my car
my antenna has a 1.2 SWR, with the amp on or off.
I won't use an antenna with an SWR higher than 1.4
Thanks for watching, 73's
@@MowerJunkie cheers 👍 for the reply
@@RT038 Just for reference, a 1.5:1=4% reflected power, 2:1=11%, and 3:1=25%. Lower is better.
Do you connect your amplifier directly to the battery?
You’re gonna wear that dash out 151 lol
How much would a radio like that cost me in my mail box?
What was your swr reading with amp installed on and off?
SWR is just under 1.2 from channel 1 to channel 40, with the amp on or off.
Brings in staric
👍🏻👍🏻
Awesome
i own a uniden bear cat pc 68 what amp can i use?
Where can you purchase them?
Does that Uniden have CD?? Great video.✌✌
I got a 503hd, it doesn't work in ssb. They refues to answer my request for warranty. Buy beware
I was looking at this amp and the kl 200 how do you find the pre amp on it
RM-Italy 203P the P stands for pre amp I just got one from Amazon with jumper cable
Hey Mower-Junkie, what kinda grounding do u have with that mobile set-up?
the amp is connected directly to the battery, and the antenna is grounded to the body.
Way to high 2 watts DK max swing 10 watts according to the sheet if your keying 5 watts 8 average Dead key into this little guy YOU will blow it.
Why is a pre-amp needed?
It helps with recieving.
If.
You really want to get this thing rocking? Put 8 gauge wire and then. Toshiba red dot 2879. They're on eBay Then have it done professionally. Installed, then hook it back up and do a video of this
I have the same amp but Im only getting 40watts output, do you have any idea Why?? Thanks
Heat sink wrong way round ‘ going to cook the pills