@@Techwithkrishkurapati point to be noted. I ride in heavy traffic condition n worst roads. bro u have to change the breakpad in fz25 for every 5k km.N surely it depends on the rider.(rear Rs1300 n front 350 in Pune) But fun to ride.
No one beat Yamaha in terms of quality.. Yamaha is Yamaha. I have a gladiator 2015 model which my brother is riding presently still running on stock clutch plate, stock engine.. apart from that I have a pulsar 150, a Ns200 (2017) .. All bikes are good. Just need to pempar them properly..
I do agree yamaha has good quality, but as you said the stock clutch plate is not the right example. I drive a Hero Honda super splendor 125cc, 2006 model which runs on stock clutch plates with 48k on odo!
Bro i also drove a pulsar 150 2015 model which i sold last month...i had clocked almost 55k in the odo ....and not changed the clutch plates.... I only service it from the authorized bajaj Service by an average intervel of 4000 km and the bike was still in brand new condition when i sold it... though so many complaints about bajaj is not reliable .. their service is poor and all but i personally believe that when you take care of the bike properly it will reward you with a good life span...(my openion)
I am in love with this bike!! I had buy on 29th june nd done almost 1 mnth..osm bike!! Speed,Muscular shape! Best bike in 250 segment which is not costly also! Thank you for your review faisal sir!
Rami Rudresh hey frnd its good that this will help you but you are taking white colour i think it will not look so cool! So i think you should go foe bellastic blue or knight warrior!
my friend own an Apache rtr 200 4v and completed 10k kms .. he is a rash driver .. he always revs his bike a lot but it doesn't vibrates at all in max rpm .we can see a little vibrations in foot pegs in when we go more than 8000 rpm only a little .. it was an amazing bike ... I tested a fz25 bike in a Yamaha showroom .. I just throttled it .. I feel vibrations in 6000 rpm itself ... Yamaha fz25 vibrates a lot in handle bars I am not complaining about Yamaha but only in fz 25 . but u can't see such vibrations in r15.. and also u can't see any such vibrations like that in Apache 200 it's a well refined engine❤.. I don't know y u are saying that Apache vibrates a lot ... I agree with Apache 160 and 180 but not in the Apache 200 .. TVS made a best bike ever called apache 200. Apache and NS 200 are the best value for money bikes ❤ waiting for Abs + FI version of apache 200.❤ don't ever try to underestimate a good bike
apache 200 is better than ns 200 .. the truth is here ! but I would never say ns200 as a bad bike . it is fast but apache is quick .. better handler , better sound , better ride quality ,better console , better tyres ,looks are subjective ( i like the ns200) , better track performance ! its a daily power commuter with a track oriented handling ! thumbs up for Apache 💪👍
LOL, then stand in the line of other stupids who says they do 160 on NS200, Buy A VBox, I bet if you cross 145kmph on even an RS200 or 140kmph on NS200.
FZ-25 is indeed a worthy winner. This is a great review covering almost all the points. Potential buyers get to know about the exact strengths and weaknesses of the bikes.
Manas B i own an fz25 since april. Its actually very manageable but yes abs would have been a great addition. Also headlights suck especially on state highways on a rainy night. But i promise you ll fall in love with the first ride.
Awesome comparison brother... I think I haven't seen so much detailed comparison of 4 bikes ever before, and at last you also gave them ranks which just makes so easy for people who wants to buy any of these. Weldone.
Finally the comparison everyone was waiting for and blv me guyz fz25 is truly king in city conditions and for the long ride crusing, i am really happy that i choose fz 25 over ns200 , loving every bit of it, this is my first yamaha and now i can say Yes Yamaha!😎
I think it is Apache to me!! Bike lovers don't relay only on power delivery where Duke will blow others away. But actually it is ride quality and handling where I think TVS hits the right strings almost for the first time. Based on price per performance ratio, Apache is almost half of Duke and is still 40k lesser than FZ25. Speaking ur point where FZ wins against Duke for value it offers. It applies same to Apache (vs FZ) too.. (It is still in the range of Hornet, Gixxer SF) And if TVS break the shackles and bring FI (with ABS too) which makes it supreme value against FZ and other. It will be still cheaper than FZ25 and then you will change ur opinion. By the way, a request to TVS.. Bring Apache 310 RR with similar characteristics of 200 4v or excel it.. But don't be very late again.. no excuse this time..,😉😉
Faisal Khan 34-35 easily but i noticed when i did a 250 km continuous ride, i rode constantly at 112-116kmph it got down to 31. Its back to normal now.
Pulsar Ns 200 is the 2nd most powerful bike here with 23.5 bhp It is also the fastest here (158 kms) Also the cheapest here!! Don't forget the king here!! 😍😍
I've tried all four bikes myself and I'm not brand loyal to any of these. Considering the value for money I'm leaning more to FZ. I've always loved the engine refinement of Yamaha but hate the display design and gear limiting to 5 only in this one. They should have kept ABS optional and improved both front and rear suspensions. Duke 390 2017 (though not on comparison) is superb but it constantly demands huge sum on maintenance. 250 for me is a bit pricey for what's on offer. If the BMW G310 won't show up by the end of this year, FZ 25 will hit my garage ;) Thanx a lot motorbeam team on this fair review. Love you guys :)
Guys, he is right. You won't get a better bike than FZ25 in these range of bikes. When the video started, I was not happy but over all AWESOME Review. Apache's seat and riding comfort is perfect, it won't give you tiredness even in traffic. I haven't tried KTM so I don't want to comment on that but lookwise the old KTM model looked better. Pulsar NS 200 : No offense but apart from it's speed, there's nothing much it offers for so much cost and it is high time, they should change that ghisa pita third class model. Even other regular Indian bikes like Honda hornet/Xblade, t's own 125 NS have same kind of model. One best thing about Pulsar is its re-sale value was always the best. FZ25: They should have added a sixth gear, If you are a FZ owner you'll know this. when you're riding FZ, you'll want to have more of it, that's it speciality. At first, when FZ16 was launched I used to feel "why don't you have a 5th gear????" while riding now same happens with FZ25 "Why doesn't it has a sixth gear" But still Get the FZ25. Its gearing is not perfect but the lack of a sixth gear means it has well spaced out gears and the 5th gear is low ratio gear for cruising . You could see it in this way that the lack of a 6th gear means less gear shifting which makes riding less hectic. If you notice FZ25 didn't come last in any segment. Undoubtedly FZ25 is the best, I owned a FZ16, Pulsar 180 and KTM and now I've borrowed my cousin's FZ25 to ride for few days and check the performance before buying and I'm in love with its performance. The pickup, style, seating, mileage everything is amazing, above all it is a YAMAHA machine and one of the best bikes Yamaha has ever made. P.S. I have bought and sold many bikes but I just don't feel like selling Yamaha FZ16, hopefully FZ25 will continue the legend.
To all the guys who are making filthy remarks on Apache 200. Guys please understand what racing is. You people condemn an Indian manufacturer who has 34 years experience in racing. Yes TVS started racing with a 50cc Champ and still race with a mere 200cc engine. Guys, have you seen the vintage Harley Davidson bikes? They were so skinny and literally look like a bicycle. How could Harley Davidson grow to this extent? Because the Americans encourage, used, promoted, and loved the brand. TVS has been sponsoring so many young racers in our country. Name any well known Indian racer, he is from TVS. TVS is the first Indian manufacturer to participate in the world's toughest rally: Dakar. So you guys judge a bike by riding it on a straight line for a mere 400 meters? Yes Every Apache will lose out in top-speed battle. I remember NDTV had tested p220, HH karizma, and RTR160 on race track. Though RTR160 was the smallest engine, it managed to beat Karizma and was just behind p220. Racing is not all about top speed. Hope you guys give a thought before typing shit. #peace
I think you have very wrong idea sir. Harley riders and company are hated here... No motorcyclist likes them. They are like a cult. So yeah. No one loves those buck helmet wearers. My freind from india told me its like Royal enfield. Although I don't know the company.
Exactly my points, if KTM had given ABS, Metzeler tires, and improved instrument cluster to Duke 250 it would have been winner but at 2.15 lakhs on road Bangalore, its too pricey, better to buy Duke390 by investing another 40,000 rs which is a monster of a bike. Overall, FZ25 great VFM motorcycle from Yamaha.
Adi tya, Dude I already bought one and just finished a 1200 km road trip, its an awesome touring machine. This bike can cruise around 120 all day without any jerk. No heating issues, no vibrations, very sweet machine and its priced around 1.48 lakhs on road, that's very aggressive pricing actually.
krpradi no way dude.. it expensive for the price. 200ns&rs can cruise at 120kmph. As i have a mentioned, for budget equipments fz25 comes with, its expensive. its obvious yamahas are never VFM, they don't even come close to that. That doesn't mean fz25 isn't a good motorcycle.
I have fz25 amd fz and a gladitor 125cc in which gladiator is 10 yrs old now even now it doesnt have any complaint and it doesnt need to visit workshops at all. After i had bought ktm which made me ill with its maintainence charge and problems and less availabilty of parts so i sold it and bought pulsar which was good for first 6 month and after that it started showing it is a bajaj product a monthly workshop visitor. So i sold and bought fz25 last year when it was launched and till now complaint ,no maintainece issue low cost amd good milege. After that i became a fan of brand yamaha and this year bought normal fzs for normal use. Now i have 3 yamaha bikes and proud of it
Sumanth B.S. First see the video clearly...The bike in test reaches 136Kmph and When the instrument cluster is shown in the same video the top speed recorder shows 145. If u are not aware, yes Apache 200 has a top speed recorder too. Did u notice him say that it's the best bike in terms of handling and ride quality? It's an Indian make...against the majestic Japanese and Austria's finest The KTM. Does that ring any bells in your mind? For a Maximum price of 1.2 lakhs on road (Carb with Pirellis) It's worth for every rupee you give. Yes This dog has bitten the market so hard and selling 6000+ units per month and growing strong and shaken up other manufacturers which lead to new launches. This dog bites so hard bro. Especially 6500-8000 rpm where other machines gasp for air...this dog turns into a beast and lunges. Know the facts before putting such a shameful comment.
Bharanidhar Venugopal ns200 has a better top end power. It's an Indian manufacturer (now don't tell that the engine is from Duke 200). What matters is ns200 has a better top end power but apache 200 has better handling . If handling is not good, you can just have to get used to it. But for power you have to invest more money for modifications which is not advisable. It is cheap that's why it sells so much. I can't find any other reason why anyone in their sober mind would want to buy an ugly bike like apache 200. P. S I'm a Duke250 owner. :)
Bharanidhar Venugopal and how do you expect me to believe a recorded speed when all the video I have seen has been showing the top speed around 136kmp. It has low power and it has been seen in all the video and a good sound I guess so the proverb barking dog seldom bite perfectly matches it. You're a fan boy and clouded with judgement. So, no point in believing your words. Good for you if you love your bike, that is how every rider should be about his bike. But I'm never a fan of ugly bike with low pick up no matter how much it can reach in the highway. I'm just not into such bikes.
Sumanth B.S. Well you are calling a bike ugly which is appreciated by almost all the reviewers for it's design. This shows your crooked mind with a single goal to disgrace a particular product whatever it may give you. There's no point in arguing with you. And what the hell are you gonna do with that useless top end? How frequently do you use it? how many roads do you have in India to use that top end performance? In India the Most needed is Low end torque and the Mid-range..just like the Apache 200 and FZ 25. Enjoy a safe journey to hell/heaven with your top end performance which is so good in your KTM 250. And previously the other guy meant your KTM 250 as auto rickshaw for it's sound. you couldn't even grasp that humour. Grow up kid
The wait has been worth it. Nice comparo Faisal bro. It felt like the KTM was going to rise on the top but the FZ25 took the crown. I guess mainly because of the VFM quotient. Well played Yamaha, well played. 😀👍
Very detailed review, that's what we want, anyone watching this can decide which bike to buy, for me, it's always going to be the Duke 250 because you can't put value for money on an emotional decision, the KTM just feels special which the FZ25 doesn't.
Brought Apache RTR 200 after watching this review. As a daily user and not a topspeed fan, Apache gives better brake (Dual channel ABS) Slipper clutch, Great handling, Average mileage of 40km, pirelli tyres, Better riding comfort and great cornering stability. Thanks for the KYB shock absorbs
But the only thing Dominar gets my hate is every part make noise and to repair them its just like Cancer ... Dominar is the bike of all time but Bajaj always makes such mistakes and never solves the problems of customer in Gujarat... Thats the only issue... Same KTM issues are forever and you start living with it... Yamaha is still best as per value of ownership and service... No complains and they are always ready to listen here... I had some vibration in the cluster and they did it infront of me and said take a test ride if you feel then come again else go ride... Where my Dominar friend was said “i took a ride no issues take it back” Then after requesting he said its a complete ready bike... Then we went on a local Garage and he made it happen... Now every 5000km my friend takes his bike to him and he adjusts again... Even he says you can’t wash with heavy spray else your parts will again vibrate... (plastic) So think again and decide... Ktm other hand has issues of not serving proper help at times they just say talk to the advisor and when you talk with him he uses his good marketing strategy and fools you... Tvs is good no issues till date.. But its small bike and seems cheap.. Bajaj is worst... Ktm is good Tvs is best And Yamaha is best in Gujarat Thats it
Even i am a yamaha fan and own fz16 i say if you do long trips dont buy any of these bikes go for gixxer SF FI it will give you good cruising speeds better aerodynamics and better milage almost 50kmpl on highway and cheaper also...
Vatsal Srivastava its a good bike bro ... but apache has much more to offer .. handling , instrument cluster, tyres ,ride quality .. performance isnt the thing that everyone wants .
@Hameedhul Arshadh ns and apache has a same price..... And fz 25 has a price difference of 20k... So these three comes around the same segment... I don't know about duke 250....comparison with duke 200 would have made some sense
@@someshsahu8148 yeah.. Except the former 2 the rest of the 2 are priced extremely different... And faisal keep on telling good things about duke 250 which is a whole 1 lakh above the apache and pulsar
Apache RTR 200 Pirelli 1) Better traction 2) Better suspension made by KYB 3) Better cornering ability Best value for money which makes it best (city bike) regarding Indian road conditions
it's a great review and i am totally agree with U...FZ25 is really awesome in this price range...i m using fz25 last one month and i m loving it..previously i hv pulsar 180 its a good bike but fz25 feels me smoothness and torquey feel...YES YAMAHA...
Excellent comparo.. Nice video MB.. Loved it.. All 4 bikes are really good in their own right and you can't go wrong with either of them.. The faults are more of nitpicking than anything else..
Everyone knows which is the best bike for them but still watching this kind of comparison videos only to feel a little bit more confident on their personal choices... Am i right everybody...!
Bajaj , if you watching this video , plz provide motor beam , new NS200 for their comparison videos . These ppl never listen to subscribers and use bloody old aged 200ns again n again ..
bro i hve 200ns 2017 very nice machine and smoother then the old ns its true it comes 3rd in term of 0 to 100 but ns 200 has very strong top end heavy weight helps her for the stability but it can easily beat fz, apache, and almost equal to duke 250 in top end
Thanks Faizal for the review. Now my mind is clear and I am going to buy the fz25 now. Actually I have send an email to Yamaha motorcycle India regarding FZ25. I write that bike lacks ABS, gear shift indicator and 6th gear. Also I get feedback from them that they have forwarded my email to the concern department. I hope soon Yamaha motorcycle India launch the new FZ25 with above mentioned features.
Why do these review channel hosts suddenly stop while speaking every 10 seconds.....ugh...it's so irritating. 5min video is made into 10 min unnecessarily...
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I am happy to see this video. As a owner of fz250
The Apache is one of the most underrated bikes in India... I love it and wish more guys gave it a test ride it deserves.
It is good in terms of performance but in case of reliability and fuel efficiency is not that good that is why it looks like underrated
Thats Yamaha for U. All in one..Its all about the reliability and practicality.gonna buy a FZ25 next month
Why not the sexy looking Fazer 25 ;p
I think you should go for ns, you will thank me later
amiit shukla lol vibrtions and quality and reliability pooor ..u dont buy it ..u thank me later
I am planning to buy it too
What's your experience with the bike bro
Mileage and maintenance
@@Techwithkrishkurapati point to be noted. I ride in heavy traffic condition n worst roads.
bro u have to change the breakpad in fz25 for every 5k km.N surely it depends on the rider.(rear Rs1300 n front 350 in Pune)
But fun to ride.
Motorbeam just nailed it with this Comparison test.FZ25 is the clear value for money bike.
Thanks to motorbeam now I am fully confident to choose FZ25 as my next bike. Cheers!!
DOminar 400 will come in the first position if they had added it in the review.
Evolution : Machine to Man it is 150cc more thats y it does not belong here
Faisal Khan black one🤘
go for it bro yesterday I have brought it and it was so so so so refined
Infamous Techie Bhai
My calculator has a better display than the fz25.
Vivaan Raghuvanshi i was about to say the same thing😂😂
😂😂
hahaha lol
Vivaan Raghuvanshi but your calculator cannot perform as good as fz25 !!!!😂😂😂
+NBA World but Yamaha can't get the delete button
No one beat Yamaha in terms of quality.. Yamaha is Yamaha. I have a gladiator 2015 model which my brother is riding presently still running on stock clutch plate, stock engine.. apart from that I have a pulsar 150, a Ns200 (2017) .. All bikes are good. Just need to pempar them properly..
samudranil gogoi...same here I am also own glady 2015 model...Butter smooth nd no vibration even on high speed...Yamaha is Yamaha...
Mohit Mavi sry it was 2005 model.. 🙂
I got 2012 model and still happy with it. Great powerful, smooth and silent bike.
I do agree yamaha has good quality, but as you said the stock clutch plate is not the right example. I drive a Hero Honda super splendor 125cc, 2006 model which runs on stock clutch plates with 48k on odo!
Bro i also drove a pulsar 150 2015 model which i sold last month...i had clocked almost 55k in the odo ....and not changed the clutch plates.... I only service it from the authorized bajaj Service by an average intervel of 4000 km and the bike was still in brand new condition when i sold it... though so many complaints about bajaj is not reliable .. their service is poor and all but i personally believe that when you take care of the bike properly it will reward you with a good life span...(my openion)
Fz 25 is today's winner yahi soon ne ke liye pura video dekha....hit the like if you also Yamaha die hard fan.....
Agreed with FZ 25 decision 👍
Attention magnet level.
*Duke > FZ > Apache > NS*
Speed
*Duke > FZ > NS > Apache*
Comfort
*FZ > Apache > NS > Duke*
Now new gixxer 250 beats all
yamaha fz25 refinement and build quality awesome
Yogesh Yogi
refinement is bad post 7k RPM
Adi tya dude it goes to 115kmph at 7k rpm, 110-115kmph at 6-7k rpm is idol for cruising. Why go beyond that?
Plz tell me the milage
I am your 💯 liked person bro
According to the price range you should also have added the Duke 200 for the comparison.
Price: Am I a joke to you?
Its only after ur ist review on fz25 i bought it. 👍
Faisal Khan Mileage is very impressive for a 250cc bike. I m getting 33 and i m from a hilly area.
i am also getting around 36kmpl. figures are of before 1sr service
Agnivesh Sinha after ist service mileage will increase
I hope go for it too
After dual channel abs, slipper clutch and rear wheel lift of protection apache offers the best value as per me.
The Race Edition looks very good.
@@FasBeam faizy bhai rtr 200 milage plz batana
Agree ..
But rtr200 front looks like ghost.. very stupid decoration..
Fz 250 lover hit like!
I am in love with this bike!! I had buy on 29th june nd done almost 1 mnth..osm bike!! Speed,Muscular shape! Best bike in 250 segment which is not costly also! Thank you for your review faisal sir!
thank you sir .. I'm also buying fz-250 white .. around 15th August ... motor beam is the best....
Faisal sir i have completed only 300 km now!
Rami Rudresh hey frnd its good that this will help you but you are taking white colour i think it will not look so cool! So i think you should go foe bellastic blue or knight warrior!
Fz25 next year ane wali h mere pss konsa colour mst h
my friend own an Apache rtr 200 4v and completed 10k kms ..
he is a rash driver .. he always revs his bike a lot but it doesn't vibrates at all in max rpm .we can see a little vibrations in foot pegs in when we go more than 8000 rpm only a little ..
it was an amazing bike ...
I tested a fz25 bike in a Yamaha showroom .. I just throttled it .. I feel vibrations in 6000 rpm itself ...
Yamaha fz25 vibrates a lot in handle bars I am not complaining about Yamaha but only in fz 25 .
but u can't see such vibrations in r15.. and also
u can't see any such vibrations like that in Apache 200 it's a well refined engine❤..
I don't know y u are saying that Apache vibrates a lot ...
I agree with Apache 160 and 180 but not in the Apache 200 .. TVS made a best bike ever called apache 200.
Apache and NS 200 are the best value for money bikes ❤
waiting for Abs + FI version of apache 200.❤
don't ever try to underestimate a good bike
You are absolutely right bro
apache 200 is better than ns 200 .. the truth is here ! but I would never say ns200 as a bad bike . it is fast but apache is quick .. better handler , better sound , better ride quality ,better console , better tyres ,looks are subjective ( i like the ns200) , better track performance ! its a daily power commuter with a track oriented handling ! thumbs up for Apache 💪👍
yes, you can even go till 160 with speedometer error. But the truth is, the top speed of NS is 135kmph approx. test it on Vbox and then say.
LOL, then stand in the line of other stupids who says they do 160 on NS200,
Buy A VBox, I bet if you cross 145kmph on even an RS200 or 140kmph on NS200.
Even better build quality...
Pratt Vega ns build quality sucks man
Pratt Vega ns 200 has more power on tap , better mileage , liquid cooled engine , better outride performnce
FZ-25 is indeed a worthy winner. This is a great review covering almost all the points. Potential buyers get to know about the exact strengths and weaknesses of the bikes.
Fz 25 is the Japanese machine for long time for
Nice detailed review Motorbeam , Still I love my 200ns .
200ns fans like tho maaro :)
I too love my ns bro
Bro ns is a beast and the best
I had an ns200 and it got destroyed at 23.000 km, bad quality compared to any yamaha bike.
ive done 0-60 in 3.7 seconds on my apache and the top speed i achieved was 138 kmph (Not VBox)
bro checkout sebastian harrera videos
But I still love the RTR200 ❤
So do I.
Faisal Khan Is that your pick among the 4?
Yes still in luv with rtr 200
I got a 2016 Gixxer , will upgrade to FZ 25 next year ❤ Perfect blend of everything (wished for ABS tho)
Manas B i own an fz25 since april. Its actually very manageable but yes abs would have been a great addition. Also headlights suck especially on state highways on a rainy night. But i promise you ll fall in love with the first ride.
Abs is coming soon
When abs?
@@007KOJER April 2019
So, which bike did you finally buy?
finally loved this video...!!!! was waiting from very long time 👍🏻👍🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻 fz25 ohh jst wow bike guys
+Faisal Khan bro checkout the videos of sebastian herrera he smokes cbr 250 and duke 200 in drag and top speed with installed racing kit in 200ns 😊😊
What if bikes can speak..
*They'll be at least friends with other bikes.. rather we compare them and humiliate we humans though*
LOL'
LMAO
KTM always has an exotic touch and feel to it......it's a stand alone bike.
I dont understand when people go crazy!!! w/o knowing the fact.. KTM and FZ are 250!!! and the remaining 2s are 200.. duh!! know the facts!!
Fz 250 lovers hit like #proud owner of fz250 #yamaha family
Yes Yamaha.!
Wt is milage bro
Yes yamaha....!! Fz250😍
How about pillion comfort, especially ladies
Keep uploading more and more awesome videos like this😍😍
Awesome comparison brother... I think I haven't seen so much detailed comparison of 4 bikes ever before, and at last you also gave them ranks which just makes so easy for people who wants to buy any of these. Weldone.
I'm the owner of fz25and I love it
Tmkoc ????? I'm going for one...
What is milege ?
bhai 37 deti meri wali 6 months hogye
dilip tanwar before 1st servicing its 33 avg. After that above 35kmpl
Frank woods price kya h bhai fz25 ki
Finally the comparison everyone was waiting for and blv me guyz fz25 is truly king in city conditions and for the long ride crusing, i am really happy that i choose fz 25 over ns200 , loving every bit of it, this is my first yamaha and now i can say Yes Yamaha!😎
thanks for this Lovely review.... planning to buy a fz25...ur review is helpful
Fz250 has amazing road presence 😍looks like higher cc vehicle
NS Fan hit like
I think it is Apache to me!! Bike lovers don't relay only on power delivery where Duke will blow others away. But actually it is ride quality and handling where I think TVS hits the right strings almost for the first time.
Based on price per performance ratio, Apache is almost half of Duke and is still 40k lesser than FZ25. Speaking ur point where FZ wins against Duke for value it offers. It applies same to Apache (vs FZ) too.. (It is still in the range of Hornet, Gixxer SF)
And if TVS break the shackles and bring FI (with ABS too) which makes it supreme value against FZ and other. It will be still cheaper than FZ25 and then you will change ur opinion.
By the way, a request to TVS.. Bring Apache 310 RR with similar characteristics of 200 4v or excel it.. But don't be very late again.. no excuse this time..,😉😉
Because it's on demand
Dude.. Best review comparison by far. You guys are awesome. Also i am happy as i own a fz25 😂
Faisal Khan 34-35 easily but i noticed when i did a 250 km continuous ride, i rode constantly at 112-116kmph it got down to 31. Its back to normal now.
is it giving any problem ...
plsssss reply
Everything was kinda okay until you said top speed of NS is 136 KMPH.
I was waiting for top end in the complete video.
Pulsar Ns 200 is the 2nd most powerful bike here with 23.5 bhp
It is also the fastest here (158 kms)
Also the cheapest here!!
Don't forget the king here!! 😍😍
After 2months of buying pulsar you will know 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I've tried all four bikes myself and I'm not brand loyal to any of these. Considering the value for money I'm leaning more to FZ. I've always loved the engine refinement of Yamaha but hate the display design and gear limiting to 5 only in this one. They should have kept ABS optional and improved both front and rear suspensions.
Duke 390 2017 (though not on comparison) is superb but it constantly demands huge sum on maintenance. 250 for me is a bit pricey for what's on offer.
If the BMW G310 won't show up by the end of this year, FZ 25 will hit my garage ;)
Thanx a lot motorbeam team on this fair review. Love you guys :)
Oh Yes Fz25 😘
Faisal Khan Easily
Sagar Sarker look sucks though
Prvz world lol better than ns 200 and apache tough ....not than d250 but
waited too long for this video!!!
thanks a lot for making it easier...
im in love with fz25
FZ25 or R15?
@@FasBeam who r u to ask😏
Guys, he is right. You won't get a better bike than FZ25 in these range of bikes.
When the video started, I was not happy but over all AWESOME Review. Apache's seat and riding comfort is perfect, it won't give you tiredness even in traffic.
I haven't tried KTM so I don't want to comment on that but lookwise the old KTM model looked better.
Pulsar NS 200 : No offense but apart from it's speed, there's nothing much it offers for so much cost and it is high time, they should change that ghisa pita third class model. Even other regular Indian bikes like Honda hornet/Xblade, t's own 125 NS have same kind of model. One best thing about Pulsar is its re-sale value was always the best.
FZ25: They should have added a sixth gear, If you are a FZ owner you'll know this. when you're riding FZ, you'll want to have more of it, that's it speciality. At first, when FZ16 was launched I used to feel "why don't you have a 5th gear????" while riding now same happens with FZ25 "Why doesn't it has a sixth gear" But still
Get the FZ25. Its gearing is not perfect but the lack of a sixth gear means it has well spaced out gears and the 5th gear is low ratio gear for cruising . You could see it in this way that the lack of a 6th gear means less gear shifting which makes riding less hectic.
If you notice FZ25 didn't come last in any segment.
Undoubtedly FZ25 is the best, I owned a FZ16, Pulsar 180 and KTM and now I've borrowed my cousin's FZ25 to ride for few days and check the performance before buying and I'm in love with its performance. The pickup, style, seating, mileage everything is amazing, above all it is a YAMAHA machine and one of the best bikes Yamaha has ever made.
P.S. I have bought and sold many bikes but I just don't feel like selling Yamaha FZ16, hopefully FZ25 will continue the legend.
To all the guys who are making filthy remarks on Apache 200. Guys please understand what racing is. You people condemn an Indian manufacturer who has 34 years experience in racing. Yes TVS started racing with a 50cc Champ and still race with a mere 200cc engine. Guys, have you seen the vintage Harley Davidson bikes? They were so skinny and literally look like a bicycle. How could Harley Davidson grow to this extent? Because the Americans encourage, used, promoted, and loved the brand. TVS has been sponsoring so many young racers in our country. Name any well known Indian racer, he is from TVS. TVS is the first Indian manufacturer to participate in the world's toughest rally: Dakar.
So you guys judge a bike by riding it on a straight line for a mere 400 meters? Yes Every Apache will lose out in top-speed battle. I remember NDTV had tested p220, HH karizma, and RTR160 on race track. Though RTR160 was the smallest engine, it managed to beat Karizma and was just behind p220. Racing is not all about top speed. Hope you guys give a thought before typing shit. #peace
I love ur last line i.e racing is not all about top speed
I think you have very wrong idea sir. Harley riders and company are hated here... No motorcyclist likes them. They are like a cult. So yeah. No one loves those buck helmet wearers. My freind from india told me its like Royal enfield. Although I don't know the company.
Best video on the internet about these 4 bikes(individual as well as comparison).
+madgunner bomb thank you buddy.
duke 250 is the best .
love the exhaust sound and acceleration 😍😍😍
Yeah I just love 250 no competition ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
finally a video from motorbeam that i really liked. very good comparison. unbiased.
RTR ❤️
Thanks man. The video is very helpful. I couldn't find such a detailed comparison anywhere else. Thanks a lot. ✌
Glad we could help.
Exactly my points, if KTM had given ABS, Metzeler tires, and improved instrument cluster to Duke 250 it would have been winner but at 2.15 lakhs on road Bangalore, its too pricey, better to buy Duke390 by investing another 40,000 rs which is a monster of a bike. Overall, FZ25 great VFM motorcycle from Yamaha.
krpradi
fz25 is very expensive for an aircooled 5 speed gear , diamond frame equipped bike.
Adi tya, Dude I already bought one and just finished a 1200 km road trip, its an awesome touring machine. This bike can cruise around 120 all day without any jerk. No heating issues, no vibrations, very sweet machine and its priced around 1.48 lakhs on road, that's very aggressive pricing actually.
krpradi no way dude..
it expensive for the price.
200ns&rs can cruise at 120kmph.
As i have a mentioned, for budget equipments fz25 comes with, its expensive.
its obvious yamahas are never VFM, they don't even come close to that.
That doesn't mean fz25 isn't a good motorcycle.
Adi tya Different persons have different ideas.
krpradi after gst the price has gone down by 10k ..new price is 1,38000! :)
One of the best Comparison videos...
Keep making such Videos...
Thank you buddy.
Waiting for Bajaj and TVS haters to jump the wagon 🙈
Let BAJAJ correct its engine noise issue first..
Bajaj chain, engine noise are LOUDER than its exhaust sounds..
I have fz25 amd fz and a gladitor 125cc in which gladiator is 10 yrs old now even now it doesnt have any complaint and it doesnt need to visit workshops at all.
After i had bought ktm which made me ill with its maintainence charge and problems and less availabilty of parts so i sold it and bought pulsar which was good for first 6 month and after that it started showing it is a bajaj product a monthly workshop visitor.
So i sold and bought fz25 last year when it was launched and till now complaint ,no maintainece issue low cost amd good milege.
After that i became a fan of brand yamaha and this year bought normal fzs for normal use.
Now i have 3 yamaha bikes and proud of it
You said TVS has the best sound and is the slowest bike, this reminds of the proverb- Barking dogs seldom bite. 😂😂😂😂
Sumanth B.S. First see the video clearly...The bike in test reaches 136Kmph and When the instrument cluster is shown in the same video the top speed recorder shows 145. If u are not aware, yes Apache 200 has a top speed recorder too.
Did u notice him say that it's the best bike in terms of handling and ride quality? It's an Indian make...against the majestic Japanese and Austria's finest The KTM. Does that ring any bells in your mind? For a Maximum price of 1.2 lakhs on road (Carb with Pirellis) It's worth for every rupee you give. Yes This dog has bitten the market so hard and selling 6000+ units per month and growing strong and shaken up other manufacturers which lead to new launches. This dog bites so hard bro. Especially 6500-8000 rpm where other machines gasp for air...this dog turns into a beast and lunges. Know the facts before putting such a shameful comment.
Bharanidhar Venugopal ns200 has a better top end power. It's an Indian manufacturer (now don't tell that the engine is from Duke 200). What matters is ns200 has a better top end power but apache 200 has better handling . If handling is not good, you can just have to get used to it. But for power you have to invest more money for modifications which is not advisable.
It is cheap that's why it sells so much. I can't find any other reason why anyone in their sober mind would want to buy an ugly bike like apache 200.
P. S I'm a Duke250 owner. :)
Bharanidhar Venugopal and how do you expect me to believe a recorded speed when all the video I have seen has been showing the top speed around 136kmp. It has low power and it has been seen in all the video and a good sound I guess so the proverb barking dog seldom bite perfectly matches it. You're a fan boy and clouded with judgement. So, no point in believing your words.
Good for you if you love your bike, that is how every rider should be about his bike. But I'm never a fan of ugly bike with low pick up no matter how much it can reach in the highway. I'm just not into such bikes.
harry brar sure, if that makes you happy. :)
Sumanth B.S. Well you are calling a bike ugly which is appreciated by almost all the reviewers for it's design. This shows your crooked mind with a single goal to disgrace a particular product whatever it may give you. There's no point in arguing with you. And what the hell are you gonna do with that useless top end? How frequently do you use it? how many roads do you have in India to use that top end performance? In India the Most needed is Low end torque and the Mid-range..just like the Apache 200 and FZ 25. Enjoy a safe journey to hell/heaven with your top end performance which is so good in your KTM 250. And previously the other guy meant your KTM 250 as auto rickshaw for it's sound. you couldn't even grasp that humour. Grow up kid
I like your videos a lot. I'm a long time rider of FZ 16
apache touched 138km/h but you guys still showed 129km/h why?
ashmeet goyal Speedometers on bikes show incorrect speed. They sre showing Vbox tested speed which is accurate.
@@pandeydevanshu but for the rest of the bikes they showed almost the speedo indicated speed
The wait has been worth it. Nice comparo Faisal bro. It felt like the KTM was going to rise on the top but the FZ25 took the crown. I guess mainly because of the VFM quotient. Well played Yamaha, well played. 😀👍
Better I would chose the Dominar over the FZ25 which is priced a little high than the fz25 while is in a whole different level than the fz25.
Rahul Layek Think about the reliability bro
Exactly, lot of people do not go for Dominar because it's a Bajaj but starting NS onwards, Bajaj bikes have become far more reliable.
Rahul Layek anyway it's just Bajaj.. That makes it pathetic 😂😂
very detailed comparison , this should help a lot of people who are confused in this segment
Value for Money :-
Apache RTR *160* 4v
Best comparison video ever for this segment of bikes 🏍️
Keep it up MotorBeam 👍🏻
Very detailed review, that's what we want, anyone watching this can decide which bike to buy, for me, it's always going to be the Duke 250 because you can't put value for money on an emotional decision, the KTM just feels special which the FZ25 doesn't.
Indian Superman True.
Faisal Khan Absolutely
you may like the power and looks of the ktm ..but at the end after-sale service is what matters most and yamaha is better at it.
Faisal Khan but when you compare the quality of FZ25 to duke 250 FZ lags , looks like it's too old
the refinement levels of the fz goes unmatched
In thz review u have cleared all doubt to buy a bike ,who as confused to choose a bike from thz four bikes,good job MB GO ON....
First comment😇
Finally the much awaited comparison review is here.
it definitely did😅
Thanks alot brother.. Finally we got the best comparison.. Love motorbeam
+Enzamul Haque life you too.
motorbeam is always best👍
abhisar shrivastava
I hope so
Brought Apache RTR 200 after watching this review.
As a daily user and not a topspeed fan, Apache gives better brake (Dual channel ABS) Slipper clutch, Great handling, Average mileage of 40km, pirelli tyres, Better riding comfort and great cornering stability. Thanks for the KYB shock absorbs
D250 owner r covering their console and switch gear with covers.. monsoon effect.. bike doesnt with stand rainly days.. water enters
Dhanakodi Dhana Never seen it on mine.
never ever encountered any such issue on my old rc390, none of my friends have encountered what you are saying on their dukes and rcs.
Recently im n d250 owners group.. they will worry abt this every day.. i have photos..
I will send it soon
I will post photos in fb comment section
Moterbeam se accha comparison kahi Ni milega. ,
This is better then the best.. keep it up.
Always ktm duke..it sounds better than other ..It's has best power to weight ratio
guys great work..... hope many to come in the future
I would Buy Dominar 400 instead of all these bikes
Rohit Tyagi great decision and kill all these bike with that
Great decision and thats truly the best bike under rs 2 lakh
Bajaj always better....lets encourage our Indian beast
But the only thing Dominar gets my hate is every part make noise and to repair them its just like Cancer ...
Dominar is the bike of all time but Bajaj always makes such mistakes and never solves the problems of customer in Gujarat...
Thats the only issue...
Same KTM issues are forever and you start living with it...
Yamaha is still best as per value of ownership and service...
No complains and they are always ready to listen here...
I had some vibration in the cluster and they did it infront of me and said take a test ride if you feel then come again else go ride...
Where my Dominar friend was said “i took a ride no issues take it back”
Then after requesting he said its a complete ready bike...
Then we went on a local Garage and he made it happen...
Now every 5000km my friend takes his bike to him and he adjusts again...
Even he says you can’t wash with heavy spray else your parts will again vibrate... (plastic)
So think again and decide...
Ktm other hand has issues of not serving proper help at times they just say talk to the advisor and when you talk with him he uses his good marketing strategy and fools you...
Tvs is good no issues till date..
But its small bike and seems cheap..
Bajaj is worst...
Ktm is good
Tvs is best
And Yamaha is best in Gujarat
Thats it
I agree
This review covered everything one could ask for in such a short time... Really great review
Even i am a yamaha fan and own fz16 i say if you do long trips dont buy any of these bikes go for gixxer SF FI it will give you good cruising speeds better aerodynamics and better milage almost 50kmpl on highway and cheaper also...
Bought a used fz25 recently and watching the video... Too much happiness 😂❤
RTR 200 owners hit a like!
HITdiya like.... Brroom Brroom vrrrooooooooommmmm......
HITdiya like.... Brroom Brroom vrrrooooooooommmmm......
To be honest i like apache 200 more than ns 200 and fz25.
Rajat Khurana Me too man but I think the Duke 250 is out of the league
They said the milage is below 30 is it true? How much milage it will give?
One of the best & detailed review n comparison.. awesome work
+Vivek Bhokare thank you.
Can't wait for people to start hating on apache, Indian bikers should learn to stay united and encourage the art of biking in general .
Faisal Khan Is ns200 that bad that it has been positioned at no. 4...
Its just a question..🙂
Vatsal Srivastava its a good bike bro ... but apache has much more to offer .. handling , instrument cluster, tyres ,ride quality .. performance isnt the thing that everyone wants .
its not at all bad...but it last at no 4 relatively in this video
Agnivesh Sinha rightly said
I dont know whats the issue with you CRCSI but you wanna drag race RTR200 let me know !!! Blow you away!!!
Very good review! Detailed and touches upon all crucial aspects such as power, frugality, ride quality, styling etc. Keep up the good work!
+Chandrika Sukumar thank you ✌🏼
My mobile flash light lot more better than fz headlight
Dhanakodi Dhana true that
Hahaha
Should be a Korean mobile to offer that much light 😂😂
Dhanakodi Dhana then keep ur phone as auxiliary light..😂
Dhanakodi Dhana3 well said!!!
Faisal Khan you should know the answer!!
just bought ns200 3 days ago......incredible bike...cant explain its beauty in words.....
Fz n duke =250cc
Rtr n Ns =200
Then why this comparison...?
Because of their price
@@someshsahu8148 r u joking...
The prices between them are day and night
@Hameedhul Arshadh ns and apache has a same price..... And fz 25 has a price difference of 20k... So these three comes around the same segment... I don't know about duke 250....comparison with duke 200 would have made some sense
@@someshsahu8148 yeah.. Except the former 2 the rest of the 2 are priced extremely different... And faisal keep on telling good things about duke 250 which is a whole 1 lakh above the apache and pulsar
Apache RTR 200 Pirelli
1) Better traction
2) Better suspension made by KYB
3) Better cornering ability
Best value for money
which makes it best (city bike) regarding Indian road conditions
+Yash Sharma but it's the slowest here.
@@MotorBeam so do u will always ride bike at top speed what do u mean by its the slowest here
you know you're comparing a 1.2L bike to a 2L bike right?
it's a great review and i am totally agree with U...FZ25 is really awesome in this price range...i m using fz25 last one month and i m loving it..previously i hv pulsar 180 its a good bike but fz25 feels me smoothness and torquey feel...YES YAMAHA...
Rtr love.. 😘😘😍😍😍
Faisal Khan rtr 200
Excellent comparo.. Nice video MB.. Loved it..
All 4 bikes are really good in their own right and you can't go wrong with either of them.. The faults are more of nitpicking than anything else..
Everyone knows which is the best bike for them but still watching this kind of comparison videos only to feel a little bit more confident on their personal choices... Am i right everybody...!
You really nail these comparisons and listicles. :-) :-)
+prudhvi krishna thank you buddy.
come on look at the price difference 😒
Faisal Khan 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
Faisal Khan indeed we pay for what we get , d250 won't let you down although so high on price
roger fed i lv the RC more💓
i bet u own d250 lol
just do it lol?..its the best
People be hating the fz here for the headlamp and the instrument cluster. While the professionals have already spoken. 😁❤️
Bajaj , if you watching this video , plz provide motor beam , new NS200 for their comparison videos . These ppl never listen to subscribers and use bloody old aged 200ns again n again ..
bro i hve 200ns 2017 very nice machine and smoother then the old ns its true it comes 3rd in term of 0 to 100 but ns 200 has very strong top end heavy weight helps her for the stability but it can easily beat fz, apache, and almost equal to duke 250 in top end
vishal chaudhary , your right ..
NS200 can beat duke 250 in Top end😋
I was in dilemma in buying either fz25,NS200 or Duke.This review made it clear.Gonna book fz25 tomorrow..thanks man..
Aditya Nirmal fz isn't bro
Use the new pulsar 200 ns, you are using a very old model... As compared to rest of the bikes! Engines have age man!!
Areeb kamal mean very less age engine on pulsar ns 200
Outstanding Review. Keep it up MotorBeam.
Yamaha's the best always
Thanks Faizal for the review. Now my mind is clear and I am going to buy the fz25 now.
Actually I have send an email to Yamaha motorcycle India regarding FZ25.
I write that bike lacks ABS, gear shift indicator and 6th gear.
Also I get feedback from them that they have forwarded my email to the concern department.
I hope soon Yamaha motorcycle India launch the new FZ25 with above mentioned features.
Why do these review channel hosts suddenly stop while speaking every 10 seconds.....ugh...it's so irritating.
5min video is made into 10 min unnecessarily...