People:No this border gore is unrealistic, why would a country own multiple small cities in the middle of other places Prussia, Central Asia and Indian Subcontinent:
Which unlike the US, the UK did this effectively and with good intentions (to preserve the balance of power within Europe). America does this to get all the power.
@I am Chara People from the Balkans complaining about this failed liberation, turkish people claiming life in the Ottoman empire wasn't that bad, and son on...
Britain treated the Ottoman Empire with disdain in many ways. The main one being the theft of two battleships the ottomans had payed for with great expense. The Germans on the other hand arrived with two of their own battleships to replace the ones stolen gaining massive trust with the ottomans.
@@andydufresnefromshawshank5866 1799 when russia and turkey jointly assaulted french island in adriatic 1833 when russian navy deterred egyptians from marching on constantinople
If the Russians took constantinople don't think it would help you Europe would've fallen the Russians would've absorbed the European part of the ottoman empire overpowering Austria and Germany due to a fued between France and Germany France would join russias side leading to a Russian win the British couldn't do much about it and a strong Russian navy would stop them from reaching India
ForestShade that’s like saying give back the whole meditarnean to Rome since Rome were the firsts to establish such empire. Regardless, that point makes no sense. Once a region has grown out of another’s culture you can’t bring it back unless if you use lethal force. Also Istanbul’s whole population is bigger than Greece; you ain’t kidding anybody. Just another keyboard warrior.
They used to count the Russo-Turkish wars(First, second, etc) but they lost count, so they just called all of them the "Russo-Turkish War" and left it up to us to guess which one was which.
+Munky Russia won those wars because we were at war with Austria,Persia at that time for example the great Turkish War we lost 500.000 soldiers and after the war ended russia declared war they are just opportunutistic cowards and can't fight us without help
+Türk Oğlu Türk without help? they destroyed the ottoman empire and humiliated them they didnt get any help they fought the ottomans alone and gained huge victories
No it's the fact that russia wanted to conquer the balkans and expand into the ottomans and just used "liberating the balkans from ottoman rule" as a casus belli to rightfully conquer them.
Russo-Turkish War started as a consequence of the Serbo-Turkish Wars, namely the Herzegovina and Bosnia uprising, known also as the "Third Serbian Uprising", or the "Rifle of Nevesinje", following which, the Serbian principalities Montenegro and Serbia would join the War against the Turks and win their Independence and International recognition. Russia would join the War, aiding mostly Bulgarian rebels and Romania, aiming to liberate all Balkan peoples (Greeks, Serbs, Bulgarians and Romanians) from the Ottomans and gain access to the Mediterranean. But, of course, like always, Orthodox Christians got backstabbed by Britain and Austria.
Patriot2610957 U DONT KNOW SHIT MAN the russo turkish war started cuz of the april uprising in bulgaria at the end of the april uprising a lot of civilians were massacered and then russia set its eye on the balkans
The britsh would have Had a Second Crimean War on thier hands. Only with the Ruskies holding more land. Considering the Brits Only barely got A "white peace victory" out of the Russian in the first one. It would be doubtful they could do it a second time. Austria Wouldve prolly sat on the sidelines. or at most gotten a minor land deal from Russia to stay out of it. Forcing Britain into a long bloody War they couldn't win...At least on Land
because this war was unnecessary.Both Russia and Turkey gained nothing.They just wasted their moneys and soldiers. Also,by the time when Russia got close to the capital of Turkey,their armies were already so tired even if they had captured the capital they couldn't keep it.
British PM Disraeli came home from the war with a British gain (Cyprus) as a reward for stopping the Russians from taking Constantinople. This was the original "Peace for our time" Speech mimiced by Chamberlain. Disraeli later said in his memoires that he though Britain had interceded on the wrong side.
@@НиколайРоманов-л6ю they made up 40% of the Allied Personal Strength. So don't be ignorant of that. And only bulgarians were actually rebells. Romania, Serbia and Montenegro had their own standing Armies already since decades
@@bumarangnebula765 its funny to compare the Imperial Russian Army with Montenegro and Serbia, and furthermore Romania did not exist until after the war.
Emperor Tigerstar the reason for the war was the rebellion in Bulgaria called the April Uprosing and it maine reason for the war is Bulgaria. Please correct your mistakes. Best regards !
Ottomans were a weak force and an empire only in name after 18th century ended. Thanks to other Europeans who wanted to balance the power we were saved from the Russian bulldozer. But also note that population in Europe skyrocketed while Ottoman population stayed at same level for centuries and significantly decreased in their last years. First they fell behind in quality, then quantity. So they had low chance against the big and qualified European armies after 18th century. Some people claim Ottomans were weak in late 17th century, but reality is they could at least withstand a big European coalition. They didn't spiral out of control like in this battle. (I'm Turkish)
Neither of what's said above is accurate. San Stefano *was signed* by the Turks but the other European powers disagreed with it. If Russia tried forcing it they would have been stopped.
@daniel halachev no, realistically since the Treaty of San Stefano is really harsh for the Turks, the British would not accept it and the tension between Russia and Britain would be too high it might led to a weird WW1 Scenario, considering it would be France and Russia against Britain, German and Austria-Hungary. Also it is not that they did not signed the Treaty of San Stefano, they signed it but the British found the Russian Influence in the Balkan unacceptable, and thus Britain together with other European power(such as the newly formed German Empire) forced Russia to sign the Treaty of Berlin and the San Stefano treaty was declared null and void.
@Grumpy Valeria Messalina What does Latin alphabet has to do with anything? Ottomans didnt exist when writing was invented or improved. I guess we are worse because we didnt exist 3000 years ago?
The Greek population of the city would be around 500,000 instead of 4,000. Armenia would be able to claim eastern turkey and nagorno karabakh. Bulgaria would have gotten some extra territory maybe,greece as well, the Turkish presence would be cornered in central Anatolia
+OyunSoneric, are you insane? The entire military contingent of Russia in this war was 335,000 soldiers and 500 cannons. The losses of Russia amounted to 15,567. 6824 died of wounds. Ottoman Empire lost 30,000 by killed and 90,000 by wounds and diseases. So, yeah, completely RIP.
+Jestem krulem jutuba sluchyc sie mie do you had no mind,you said islam is turkey.islam was originaly created in mecca.stupid.the turkey is only a capital for islam state like palestin,saudi arabia,north africa etc(one more thing,do not talk trash
They did after ww1, and look at teh middleeast now, do you like isis?, do you like alqaeda? you want them to show up on your door step or something? cuz i dont.
Arthur Shangareev we don’t blame the Germans now we blamed them then and if what your saying is the case shouldn’t Bulgaria be thanking the tsars of Russia not the country
+illyrian eagle Albanians were under Turks for the biggest and you were loyal to them. In Balkan wars most of Turkish army fighting Serbia was made of ethnic Albanians.
+Крајишник 1. Armenians, kurds and assyrians have Been longer under the turks. 2. Any source? And its not like I feel bad if its true, your serbs ethnic cleansed us in Nish and surrounding areas.
Ottomans supported Albanians independence at balkan wars even when they part of empire because if they couldnt gain independence greeks and serbs would do what they did against Turks and Muslims. Genocide
The Ottomans were losing most of their wars since the second half of the 18th century, they lost to Russia (multiple times), France, Muhammad Ali (of Egypt), Britain, Greek war of independence and the Balkans.
No in San-Stefano before British ships was creating piece. British ships went to Black sea after that they know abou result of San Stefano. In 1840 s if there wouldn t be Russian ships Ottoman emire really have end up because of Egyptian pasha Muhammed Ali
To all who blame Britain only, this is how the concert of powers was played. One power could win the war against other weaker nations, but couldn't get all of it. Austria took Bosnia, Britain took Cyprus, Russia took Kars and created small Bulgaria, Bismarck was happy to be an honest broker in his eyes and even said "we are not here to deal with happiness of Bulgars but to stabilize our interests". Nevertheless, 1878 was the end of the Russo-Prussian friendship made up in the early 1700s, the essential one that put Poland into a grave and subdued Central Europe into control of Berlin or Moscow. To all Balkan Slavic nations and Greeks Russia is a liberator, but the fact is that the intervention of powers rescued them from the fate of being vassals of Russia. Ask Poles or Georgians what it really means that big bear's hug.
great and interesting video. Was the phurial to the ottoman empire called turkish/turkic etc? or was turk later used as a nationalist reclaiming of the mongol empire? Was turk always used for the ottoman empire?
@@khanusmagnus577 Other countries called them Turks, in old Russian song about Ottoman Empire: «vzyat Krondsthat plohie shutki! Nu-ka suntes Suki Turki!»
Because they did not like the idea of the Russians getting a huge advantage in the Black Sea and, eventually, the Mediterranean. This of course, would bite them in the ass in the 1st World War for reasons we all know.
@@woodenscrotum7892 No Ottomans leader Jemal pasha respected the Britishs. But their pushed out him. And Russia help Ottomans in 1840 s when Egyptian pasha Muhammed Ali going go captured Isntanbul and all Empire
There are some Idiots complaining about Istanbul/Constantinople, because it's now under Turkish control. People shut up. No i'm not Turkish. But we should not live now in the past. We have to accept it. And a message to Greek nationalists : Everything can happen in this world. But, they want to reconquer Istanbul back? Even this city has a larger population than Greece. You should think good. Greece has also a strong military, but that military from Turkey is way way stronger.
Dex4Sure I was talking about Greece not Russia. Russia might conquer the whole eastern part of Europe if they want. I'm saying about Turkey and Greece. Turkey's military is one of the strongest in the world.
Dex4Sure First off to be Racist, Xenophobic and a Sexist is wrong by all the ways. We are all the same human being. You moron. And many studies proved that people with xenophobic minds have an IQ lesser than 80. So you must be super dumb and who are you to talk about Women like this. Would you dare to be a sexist in front of your Mother, sister, cousin , girlfriend/wife? By the way you can say everything against germany and me what you want you don't even know me well to judge. This country has the strongest and highest economy in Europe so it is very rich. Richer than your country ever will be. (I'm not a leftist, i'm against left and right)
GangsterFanduber I get your point and I believe most of them are idiots but I want Constantinople back because it has has a way more meaning for Christians in Europe then the Muslims from the Ottoman Empire. I feel like those idiots dont know the real importance of Constantinople.
@@dude6417 Russia has Nukes. Most nukes among all countries of the Earth. Whereas Turkey has to beg it from Nato and USA. Couldn't made its own. Russia killed Ottoman Empire, ottoman empire couldn't kill russian Empire, the civil war and soviet ppl did.
I have to admit, the ottoman defence at PLEVEN by Ottoman general Osman pasha was a heroic and brave stand. At pleven, the russians outnumbered osman pashas army at pleven 5 to 1. Wow
Ottomans were natural enemies to Russia by having straits connecting the black sea and Mediterranean, by keeping Russian expansion into black sea and also because of Slavic nations conquered by otomans.
Konstantin mapper Yeah, but that didn't last long enough. You are the first guy that said the 3rd Rome was Tarnovo. Which is interesting to note! :) I never knew about that!
The Ottoman Empire was just a shadow of itself in the past at that time.The Ottomans were gradually losing their power in the Balkan region because of many wars with Russia and controversial and conservative politics of its government.Nobody doubted that one day the country would either dissolve as well as many empires had done before it or become a well-manipulated satellite of the eternal forces.Nevertheless, I still can't forgive the British government for what they did to prevent Russia from further advancing to the South and conquering Istanbul.Great Britain was just twiddling its thumbs meanwhile the Russians were fighting the enemies along with their allies to get the final victory.That's totally unfair!Despite the Russian Empire acquired some territories from the Ottoman Empire, Istanbul remained a Turkish city.Therefore,the target wasn't completely achieved!
As much as I don't like the Ottomans, I can't say I like the idea of Russia controlling Constantinople either. And as glamorous as a crusade from the Hapsburgs, Germans, French, and Brits may sound completely breaking the turks would've led to non stop conflict between Greeks, Armenians, and Turks as well as create tensions in the Balkans.
+ Corvus That's impossible to happen. Sooner or later, slaves and occupied countries will ALWAYS take up guns against their rulers. The only debatable thing is "TIME". 1600? 1650? 1700? 1821? 1912? 2000? Doesn't matter...Eventually it will ALWAYS happen. The only way for ottomans to keep these lands FOR EVER is to kill every single last armenian, bulgarian, serb, and greek. Now if a rival empire completly ethnic cleanse all these, how do u think the rest of the world will react? Trust me things went pretty well for everyone in my opinion. There were like 10 times worse outcomes.
Wow, if it werent for the English, Russia would dominate the Black Sea and the Balkans, maybe even greece could have dominated Istanbul/Constantinople. Also, if I see any people saying " OI, GREECE IS WEAK THE TURKS ARE BETTER AND STRONGER IN ANY WAY JABSHSNSAUIAJAN" or any of the lines of that, you should remember that this is just a comment from a guy whos thinking about stuffs. Dont start a 3rd Balkan War on the replies, I dont mean to annoy or disrespect. Please take my comment with a grain of salt.
1:46 actually montenegro got more teritory in san stefano than berlin congress,oposing to that,serbia got less teritory in san stefan than in berlin congress
1:46 typical hoi4 peace conference borders
People:No this border gore is unrealistic, why would a country own multiple small cities in the middle of other places
Prussia, Central Asia and Indian Subcontinent:
@@breaderikthegreat3224 India and Bangladesh: hold my cities.
Before the USA it was the UK who liked to play the referee in other players' games.
Like father, like son
So did France, in many cases.
@@thunderbird1921 Ik. They apparently also won the most
Which unlike the US, the UK did this effectively and with good intentions (to preserve the balance of power within Europe). America does this to get all the power.
@@ItzWhiz_ And money*
I had a ad for a flight to Turkey while watching this video
Go turkey
@@aloiemate5027 no
@@drinkyourwater1039 ye
Netuno Muito Frio why? We are dont say make athens turkish again or etc.
@@Boraweys atina hiçbir zaman turk olmadiki knk
The comment section will be full of SALT, I garantee it
Guarantee*
+Andrew Vasirovovichintovkovichirov (Vasirov) Ty
and no one cares ten year olds
Indeed it is... :)
@I am Chara People from the Balkans complaining about this failed liberation, turkish people claiming life in the Ottoman empire wasn't that bad, and son on...
I was surprised I hadn't done an every day video for this war yet. Enjoy!
Nice video!
+Konstantin mapper vassal brainless
This is Romania s war of independance! it s a big deal!
Proud to officially make this video 1k likes! :-D
EmperorTigerstar what if russia conquerd contantinople, it would be called tsargrad?
Respect both countries from Italy 🇮🇹❤️🇷🇺❤️🇹🇷
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Hell British protected Turks, who later went against them in WWI
It's because if anyone was gonna take advantage of the Ottomans, it was going to be them gosh darn it!
+EmperorTigerstar Britain "my kill!"
The British are the eternal enemy, But still they got their asses kicked in 1923.
Britain treated the Ottoman Empire with disdain in many ways. The main one being the theft of two battleships the ottomans had payed for with great expense. The Germans on the other hand arrived with two of their own battleships to replace the ones stolen gaining massive trust with the ottomans.
This is called ''strategy''
Turkey: **exists**
Russia: _Wait, that's illegal!_
Russia:Black sea is mine
Turkey:hippity hopitty its my property
@@idiocrat3744 Since 2020, yes.
Has there ever been a point where Turkey & Russia were friends
@@andydufresnefromshawshank5866 1799 when russia and turkey jointly assaulted french island in adriatic
1833 when russian navy deterred egyptians from marching on constantinople
Well turkey and the ottoman empire are different
Russia was so close to retaking Constantinople but anglos helped turks
Russia never had Constantinople
The eternal anglo
If the Russians took constantinople don't think it would help you Europe would've fallen the Russians would've absorbed the European part of the ottoman empire overpowering Austria and Germany due to a fued between France and Germany France would join russias side leading to a Russian win the British couldn't do much about it and a strong Russian navy would stop them from reaching India
And germany
It's always the angloids
1:38 so close
You shall Not pass
Eternal Virgin even if y’all captured it nowadays, you have to deal with the 14 million people in the city
@@legendindaturk8745 send them back to iran where they came from. constantinople is a greek city.
ForestShade that’s like saying give back the whole meditarnean to Rome since Rome were the firsts to establish such empire.
Regardless, that point makes no sense. Once a region has grown out of another’s culture you can’t bring it back unless if you use lethal force. Also Istanbul’s whole population is bigger than Greece; you ain’t kidding anybody.
Just another keyboard warrior.
@@rogerbye1 kid
They used to count the Russo-Turkish wars(First, second, etc) but they lost count, so they just called all of them the "Russo-Turkish War" and left it up to us to guess which one was which.
The Russo Turkish War? Which one?
The last one
@@Elder_Scrolls_Videolari there was one more it was basically ww1
DA
@@sgp7931 No last one is technically Korean War in 1950. Turkey was on NATO side, was fighting with Soviet Russia technically
I gotta admit, this is one of your better ones. Nice job!
This is why Russia left the League of Three Emperors right?
yep
The League of Three Emperors and the Triple Alliance were doomed to fail anyway with Austria and Russia fighting over the balkans.
@@UrethraCaveDiver fight between Serbia (who were allied with Russia) and Austria over Bosnia actually.
If San Stefano passed then it wouldn't have failed and the reasons it failed the second time wouldn't exist either.
@@ammarhaziq919And Romania which was in the Central Powers but joined against them in WW1 due to disputes with Austria-Hungary
Dayyyum Ottomans got smacked
+Ege Gogen in their last years? they lost almost every war against the russians
+Munky the ottomans won only two wars against the russians:the crimean campaing and the russo-turkish war of 1710
+Munky Russia won those wars because we were at war with Austria,Persia at that time for example the great Turkish War we lost 500.000 soldiers and after the war ended russia declared war they are just opportunutistic cowards and can't fight us without help
+Türk Oğlu Türk nope they defeated you alone in so many wars
+Türk Oğlu Türk without help? they destroyed the ottoman empire and humiliated them they didnt get any help they fought the ottomans alone and gained huge victories
So this was basically Russia’s revenge on the Crimean war
Yeah but britain still stopped them
Principality of Serbia 1815-1882 💪🇷🇸
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turkish puppet state
@@deric9827 no
it's nice to think that the Balkans were liberated by my homeland🇷🇺❤️🇧🇬🇲🇪🇷🇸🇹🇩
“liberated”
@@MrPoopyDino do i have an error?
@@IVanVn no he's one of those people think "oh yeah Russia=bad"
No it's the fact that russia wanted to conquer the balkans and expand into the ottomans and just used "liberating the balkans from ottoman rule" as a casus belli to rightfully conquer them.
If Russia fully go their way the balkans would have never gotten fully independant
This happened to me once in Victoria 2, and by once I mean like 9 times
Russo-Turkish War started as a consequence of the Serbo-Turkish Wars, namely the Herzegovina and Bosnia uprising, known also as the "Third Serbian Uprising", or the "Rifle of Nevesinje", following which, the Serbian principalities Montenegro and Serbia would join the War against the Turks and win their Independence and International recognition. Russia would join the War, aiding mostly Bulgarian rebels and Romania, aiming to liberate all Balkan peoples (Greeks, Serbs, Bulgarians and Romanians) from the Ottomans and gain access to the Mediterranean. But, of course, like always, Orthodox Christians got backstabbed by Britain and Austria.
Patriot2610957 U DONT KNOW SHIT MAN the russo turkish war started cuz of the april uprising in bulgaria at the end of the april uprising a lot of civilians were massacered and then russia set its eye on the balkans
Liberate them and proceed to make them forever puppets.
This is not about religion anymore, this is about nationalities and countrie's interests.
@@ellidominusser1138You play too much EU4
@@rarescevei8268 I barely have 400hrs in it
what would of happened if the Russians didn't stop they were so close to the ottoman capital
the Russians wouldn't have stopped in Istanbul and the balkans thats why the west european powers intervened.
The britsh would have Had a Second Crimean War on thier hands. Only with the Ruskies holding more land. Considering the Brits Only barely got A "white peace victory" out of the Russian in the first one. It would be doubtful they could do it a second time. Austria Wouldve prolly sat on the sidelines. or at most gotten a minor land deal from Russia to stay out of it. Forcing Britain into a long bloody War they couldn't win...At least on Land
because this war was unnecessary.Both Russia and Turkey gained nothing.They just wasted their moneys and soldiers. Also,by the time when Russia got close to the capital of Turkey,their armies were already so tired even if they had captured the capital they couldn't keep it.
@@muratkirik5953 So were the Turks who were devastaded by the war.Besides,Russia did gain influence in the Balkans.
Murat Kirik they could probably hold it
Hey I know this is kinda cliche, but keep up the good work your videos are genuinely impressive I can tell how hard you work.
British PM Disraeli came home from the war with a British gain (Cyprus) as a reward for stopping the Russians from taking Constantinople. This was the original "Peace for our time" Speech mimiced by Chamberlain.
Disraeli later said in his memoires that he though Britain had interceded on the wrong side.
People thought the helped ottoman empire because he was a jew and ottomans treated jews well
@@mint8648 more like less worse than everyone else
@Clorox Bleach I'd say well for the time infact Jews were almost equal to Muslims under ottoman rule
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Active Personnel :
Russia, Serbia, Romania, Bulgaria, Montenegro : 466.500
Ottoman Empire : 281.000
Ottoman coward loser
Nice
So? As if besides Russia any of the other rebels had any big role 😂
@@НиколайРоманов-л6ю they made up 40% of the Allied Personal Strength. So don't be ignorant of that. And only bulgarians were actually rebells. Romania, Serbia and Montenegro had their own standing Armies already since decades
@@bumarangnebula765 its funny to compare the Imperial Russian Army with Montenegro and Serbia, and furthermore Romania did not exist until after the war.
Great video, Tigerstar!
Thank you Russia for liberating the Balkan peninsula from Ottoman rule.
puhahahjajahahshhs
@@MusabTekin8144need medical treatment?
@@НиколайРоманов-л6ю ask to the Poles
"liberating" 💀
merci d’avoir sauvé Artvin ☦️
It's insane how close they came to capturing Istanbul. If the Brits hadn't interfered, we probably would be looking at a very different map today.
If anyone was going to take advantage of the ottomans, it would be britain
No turks was always skilled and lucky, probably there would also be an guy like ataturk and would save them
@@G_1237 but it's Russia we are talking about..they didn't have the policy of human rights like France and britain.just ask the circussians
If brits didn’t, germany and austria would’ve pressured russia regardless
@@xexes3975wdym. ask algerians and indians
Ottomans 1877: eh..not as bad as we thought..
Ottomans 1878: NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
love your videos EmperorTigerstar, could you please do the six-day war: every six hours?
Emperor Tigerstar the reason for the war was the rebellion in Bulgaria called the April Uprosing and it maine reason for the war is Bulgaria. Please correct your mistakes. Best regards !
Cap
I like your vids
Keep up the good work
This result why Ottoman empire decriminalized homosexuality in 1858.
God bless Russia! Greetings from Bulgaria! Bulgaria and Russia brothers forever!
Lol nice Brother the Russians have there *cough* WW1&WW2 *cough*
@@mm2mm0 what are you talking about? You should read a little about the Soviet-Bulgarian relationship during ww2
Do u rather Starving in sovietunion or living in ottoman
@@BatuhanDere *rather living in Russian Empire.
@@BatuhanDere I those are my only choices, then ottoman empire
(This was a hard choice to make because both options completely suck)
Russia should be slang for “Other countries lose territory”
Thanks bro
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@@72.shinputokkotai13 lol
@@Szymek1243 lol
Damn. Where is angry Pakistan and Bangladesh kids? Surprising fact is that they love Ottoman empire much more than Turks)
cool video
You should do a video on the Ghana, Mali, and Songhai Empire.
Really interesting. Especially the Berlin congress part when Bosnia became part of A-H
Ottomans were a weak force and an empire only in name after 18th century ended. Thanks to other Europeans who wanted to balance the power we were saved from the Russian bulldozer. But also note that population in Europe skyrocketed while Ottoman population stayed at same level for centuries and significantly decreased in their last years. First they fell behind in quality, then quantity. So they had low chance against the big and qualified European armies after 18th century. Some people claim Ottomans were weak in late 17th century, but reality is they could at least withstand a big European coalition. They didn't spiral out of control like in this battle. (I'm Turkish)
They also did not advance in tactics and military advancement as the europeans, and did not industrialized as fast as the europeans.
Yes what do you expect after 600 years? All empires come to an end
What do you think would happen if they signed the treaty of San Stefano instead of Berlin?
daniel halachev I think WW1 and WW2 would still happen, but in a different way
Neither of what's said above is accurate. San Stefano *was signed* by the Turks but the other European powers disagreed with it. If Russia tried forcing it they would have been stopped.
@daniel halachev no, realistically since the Treaty of San Stefano is really harsh for the Turks, the British would not accept it and the tension between Russia and Britain would be too high it might led to a weird WW1 Scenario, considering it would be France and Russia against Britain, German and Austria-Hungary.
Also it is not that they did not signed the Treaty of San Stefano, they signed it but the British found the Russian Influence in the Balkan unacceptable, and thus Britain together with other European power(such as the newly formed German Empire) forced Russia to sign the Treaty of Berlin and the San Stefano treaty was declared null and void.
Then typical Hoi4 peace conference borders would be considered realistic compared to San Stefano.
@danielhalachev4714 Balkan Wars probably going to happen again.
seeing the ottomans fall always fills me with joy
@Grumpy Valeria Messalina None of those empires exist today. While Ottomans existed 100 years ago.
@Grumpy Valeria Messalina What does Latin alphabet has to do with anything? Ottomans didnt exist when writing was invented or improved. I guess we are worse because we didnt exist 3000 years ago?
@@eskihesap9985 Ottomans don't exist today either.
@@eskihesap9985 can't see ottomans today
As a Turkish guy, I'm glad Ottomans are gone. So that we can write our own language and believe whatever we want.
I honestly wished the British stopped trying to help the ottomans. I really wonder what would've happened if Russia took Constantinople
The Greek population of the city would be around 500,000 instead of 4,000. Armenia would be able to claim eastern turkey and nagorno karabakh. Bulgaria would have gotten some extra territory maybe,greece as well, the Turkish presence would be cornered in central Anatolia
Then germany and austria would pressure russia
@@rogersmith7525thank God this didn’t happen
1:48 R.I.P Ottoman Empire
Dudu Channel fucking bitch
Emir civelek You're Turkish, right?
+OyunSoneric, are you insane? The entire military contingent of Russia in this war was 335,000 soldiers and 500 cannons. The losses of Russia amounted to 15,567. 6824 died of wounds. Ottoman Empire lost 30,000 by killed and 90,000 by wounds and diseases.
So, yeah, completely RIP.
Dudu Chanel yes Wè are Turkish then Wè hate russia
You are turkish and reads glorified history about turkey in school.
All european powers should have agreed in taking each a piece of the ottoman empire
+Turk Means Strong! Lol they succeeded your cocky empire will never exist again
+Turk Means Strong! U r atheist right? I think i saw u in another video
+Jestem krulem jutuba sluchyc sie mie do you had no mind,you said islam is turkey.islam was originaly created in mecca.stupid.the turkey is only a capital for islam state like palestin,saudi arabia,north africa etc(one more thing,do not talk trash
+Jestem krulem jutuba sluchyc sie mie turkey can exist without islam maybe they existed by christian or hinduism
They did after ww1, and look at teh middleeast now, do you like isis?, do you like alqaeda? you want them to show up on your door step or something? cuz i dont.
Could you make a vid about Crimean War ?
already done, ok.
00:02 This is bulgarians volunteers in battle of shipka pass!
Yes , russian agents and spies in Bulgaria under bulgarian names
@@khanusmagnus577Return to Mongolia
😂@@khanusmagnus577
93 Harbi...
Bulgaria freedom thank you russia
Just 40 years ago Bulgaria was a puppet of Russia why would you thank them
Arthur Shangareev we don’t blame the Germans now we blamed them then and if what your saying is the case shouldn’t Bulgaria be thanking the tsars of Russia not the country
@Andrew Krasnov I don’t know what turkey is do you mean eastern Greece?
@@kanker3465The Soviet Union, not Russia
1:36 *British national anthem plays*
I am albanian, and seeing the ottomans fail completely was very enjoyable
+deal with it Im not a muslim, Im ONLY a theist.
+illyrian eagle Albanians were under Turks for the biggest and you were loyal to them. In Balkan wars most of Turkish army fighting Serbia was made of ethnic Albanians.
+Крајишник 1. Armenians, kurds and assyrians have Been longer under the turks.
2. Any source? And its not like I feel bad if its true, your serbs ethnic cleansed us in Nish and surrounding areas.
stfu hewal stop lying
Ottomans supported Albanians independence at balkan wars even when they part of empire because if they couldnt gain independence greeks and serbs would do what they did against Turks and Muslims. Genocide
The Ottomans were losing most of their wars since the second half of the 18th century, they lost to Russia (multiple times), France, Muhammad Ali (of Egypt), Britain, Greek war of independence and the Balkans.
+EmperorTigerstar Sometime ago you created a ''Europe 1815-1914'' which was excellent.Could you please make a 1914-today ?same style.
Just imagine what would have happened if Britain didn't intervine, the Ottoman empire could have ended right there
No in San-Stefano before British ships was creating piece. British ships went to Black sea after that they know abou result of San Stefano. In 1840 s if there wouldn t be Russian ships Ottoman emire really have end up because of Egyptian pasha Muhammed Ali
In 1833 Russia helped Ottomans againg Muhammed Alin in Bosfor
Germany does not allow this.
@@dasfatality9190Muhammed Ali Pasha was Albanian
No
BULGARIA AND SERBIA LOVES RUSSIA
Only Serbia
No
To all who blame Britain only, this is how the concert of powers was played. One power could win the war against other weaker nations, but couldn't get all of it. Austria took Bosnia, Britain took Cyprus, Russia took Kars and created small Bulgaria, Bismarck was happy to be an honest broker in his eyes and even said "we are not here to deal with happiness of Bulgars but to stabilize our interests". Nevertheless, 1878 was the end of the Russo-Prussian friendship made up in the early 1700s, the essential one that put Poland into a grave and subdued Central Europe into control of Berlin or Moscow. To all Balkan Slavic nations and Greeks Russia is a liberator, but the fact is that the intervention of powers rescued them from the fate of being vassals of Russia. Ask Poles or Georgians what it really means that big bear's hug.
tbh, you're comparing being vassal of the Soviet Union with one of the Russian Empire,, they are not the same
What
@@elyisusking3603 where did he mention the USSR? Russia had Poland and Georgia long before socialism was even invented.
And the Russian Empire, like The German Empire, weren't really so nice to poles in the 1800s and onwards.
@@ellidominusser1138 reading again, you're right, idk why did i thought he talked about the Soviet Union
great and interesting video. Was the phurial to the ottoman empire called turkish/turkic etc? or was turk later used as a nationalist reclaiming of the mongol empire? Was turk always used for the ottoman empire?
Ottomans called themselves Ottomans , not Turks, Turks come later , after the Ataturk regime
@@khanusmagnus577 Other countries called them Turks, in old Russian song about Ottoman Empire:
«vzyat Krondsthat plohie shutki! Nu-ka suntes Suki Turki!»
why did Britain help the ottomans
Because they did not like the idea of the Russians getting a huge advantage in the Black Sea and, eventually, the Mediterranean.
This of course, would bite them in the ass in the 1st World War for reasons we all know.
+The Liberator thank
@@woodenscrotum7892 No Ottomans leader Jemal pasha respected the Britishs. But their pushed out him. And Russia help Ottomans in 1840 s when Egyptian pasha Muhammed Ali going go captured Isntanbul and all Empire
@@dasfatality9190 Actually The Liberator ia right. British did it so russia wouldnt become even more powerfull.
@@ban1176 so what?
Ehm,Greece gained Thesaly from the Ottomans in the Berlin Congress.I didnt expected that from you.
Why you racist
@@mrhaci7747 what?
How am I a racist?
Egehan Giral your really gonna go around to every comment crying racist?
@@rohanr.9714 I am not crying I just hate racist bugs
@@γιουργια I writed wrong to you sorry
GO RUSSIA!
😠😠😠😤
_Long have we suffered cold and hunger while fighting on the Balkan mountains..._
1:15 Preven war ends : Ottoman army 35 k Russia 200 k soo 0,5 year war. Preven Defence
Pleven
@@kebabist8550 Siege of Izmail
GAZI OSMAN PASHA
Okkpprevenni
Plemplem
With the help of a program to make a video?
There are some Idiots complaining about Istanbul/Constantinople, because it's now under Turkish control. People shut up. No i'm not Turkish. But we should not live now in the past. We have to accept it.
And a message to Greek nationalists :
Everything can happen in this world. But, they want to reconquer Istanbul back? Even this city has a larger population than Greece. You should think good. Greece has also a strong military, but that military from Turkey is way way stronger.
the greeks will probably try to take out Albania, Macedonia first if they were smart(but even then turkey would still be more powerful)
Dex4Sure I was talking about Greece not Russia. Russia might conquer the whole eastern part of Europe if they want. I'm saying about Turkey and Greece. Turkey's military is one of the strongest in the world.
Dex4Sure First off to be Racist, Xenophobic and a Sexist is wrong by all the ways. We are all the same human being. You moron. And many studies proved that people with xenophobic minds have an IQ lesser than 80. So you must be super dumb and who are you to talk about Women like this. Would you dare to be a sexist in front of your Mother, sister, cousin , girlfriend/wife?
By the way you can say everything against germany and me what you want you don't even know me well to judge. This country has the strongest and highest economy in Europe so it is very rich. Richer than your country ever will be. (I'm not a leftist, i'm against left and right)
Dex4Sure Greece had done more genocides than Turkey. I know Turkey did wrong things in the past. But your nation isn't innocent either.
GangsterFanduber I get your point and I believe most of them are idiots but I want Constantinople back because it has has a way more meaning for Christians in Europe then the Muslims from the Ottoman Empire. I feel like those idiots dont know the real importance of Constantinople.
Fall of Ottomans.
No. If the ottomans returned again there will be peace.
@user-wo5cs6cv6z Let them return to your country if you want "peace"
The Russians were so fast against the Ottomans
@@paki_baloch lol no, ottoman armies are pathetic, Russia beats ottoman everytime throughout the years
@@briantarigan7685 ottomans t raped Russia in ww1
@@dude6417 russia become an even more powerful Soviet Union while turkey become the pathetic republic of turkey
@@dude6417
Russia has Nukes. Most nukes among all countries of the Earth. Whereas Turkey has to beg it from Nato and USA. Couldn't made its own. Russia killed Ottoman Empire, ottoman empire couldn't kill russian Empire, the civil war and soviet ppl did.
@@paki_baloch lol that what makes u sleep when u Lost 14 wars against them..the world knows the truth.🤣🤣
Out of all Balcan countries that Russia liberated it looks like only Serbia is grateful
Long live Osman Pasha! Long live with your soldiers!
I have to admit, the ottoman defence at PLEVEN by Ottoman general Osman pasha was a heroic and brave stand. At pleven, the russians outnumbered osman pashas army at pleven 5 to 1. Wow
Very true
Hero shouldn't be used on Generals and Soldiers
He was successful only in Armenian genocide but not like general
@@Mykola-l1cinteristing way to say "i dont know history"
Eternal anglo
Why Russia gotta be so mean to the Ottomans lol
Ottomans were natural enemies to Russia by having straits connecting the black sea and Mediterranean, by keeping Russian expansion into black sea and also because of Slavic nations conquered by otomans.
Caio L. I have been reminded
Nah, Moscow was the Third Rome.
orthodoxwiki.org/Third_Rome
Trust the Religious Wikipedia. The Patriarch moved to Moscow, if I remember correctly.
Konstantin mapper Yeah, but that didn't last long enough. You are the first guy that said the 3rd Rome was Tarnovo. Which is interesting to note! :) I never knew about that!
1571 thirth rome burned by a vassal of the ottoman empire.
And of course
Turks are hated in the comment section
And so are the British because they let the Ottomans keep Constantinople/Istanbul
And there are tons of reasons for them to be hated.
Well the people who hate them are right.
For good reason
Nice 😊
There was also bulgarian rebellions, don't forget them.
Also Romanians
Support Russia
Make video about the aprill uprising in 1876
1:52 1878 UK occupies (and later annexes) Cyprus. Thanks for the tip Turkey, you truly are our greatest ally!
Honestly, I couldn't get what you mean
If he didn't it could have be the end of his empire
bişey değil, zaten 1974'te yarısını geri aldık👍
Long live Bulgaria Съ Нами Богъ!
The Ottoman Empire was just a shadow of itself in the past at that time.The Ottomans were gradually losing their power in the Balkan region because of many wars with Russia and controversial and conservative politics of its government.Nobody doubted that one day the country would either dissolve as well as many empires had done before it or become a well-manipulated satellite of the eternal forces.Nevertheless, I still can't forgive the British government for what they did to prevent Russia from further advancing to the South and conquering Istanbul.Great Britain was just twiddling its thumbs meanwhile the Russians were fighting the enemies along with their allies to get the final victory.That's totally unfair!Despite the Russian Empire acquired some territories from the Ottoman Empire, Istanbul remained a Turkish city.Therefore,the target wasn't completely achieved!
Russian empire
Why do they not just call it the Great Eastern War?
Rare based Russia moment
Plevne War
Thank you Russia !
Bc bulgaria was in freedom in 3rd march 1878
As much as I don't like the Ottomans, I can't say I like the idea of Russia controlling Constantinople either. And as glamorous as a crusade from the Hapsburgs, Germans, French, and Brits may sound completely breaking the turks would've led to non stop conflict between Greeks, Armenians, and Turks as well as create tensions in the Balkans.
Ottomans very strong
dreyrugr The only ones who suggested and did annihilating ethnic populations were the turks themselves.
Theron Rodis Yes, but taking the action you suggest could've led to even worse outcomes.
shut up
+
Corvus
That's impossible to happen.
Sooner or later, slaves and occupied countries will ALWAYS take up guns against their rulers.
The only debatable thing is "TIME".
1600? 1650? 1700? 1821? 1912? 2000?
Doesn't matter...Eventually it will ALWAYS happen.
The only way for ottomans to keep these lands FOR EVER is to kill every single last armenian, bulgarian, serb, and greek.
Now if a rival empire completly ethnic cleanse all these, how do u think the rest of the world will react?
Trust me things went pretty well for everyone in my opinion.
There were like 10 times worse outcomes.
Filipino american war plz
You should have mentioned the bulgarian uprising in 1876 which is the main reason for the war.
This is regarding the Russo Turkish war, that's why it includes Bulgarian rebels
@@vincedhilandulay7798 One sentence in the beginning is more than enough.
0:00 what about the failed massive uprising in Bulgaria? Y u do dis
russian population was x5 of ottomans .with rebels populattion and manpower diffrence become s so much
Cause of this war my grand grandparents migrate to Eastern Anatolia from Georgia .
I love Russia 🇷🇺❤️🇹🇷
hey
1:50 **sad bulgarian noises**
Şanı büyük Osman Paşa
Plevne'den çıkmam diyor!
слава России
Wow, if it werent for the English, Russia would dominate the Black Sea and the Balkans, maybe even greece could have dominated Istanbul/Constantinople.
Also, if I see any people saying " OI, GREECE IS WEAK THE TURKS ARE BETTER AND STRONGER IN ANY WAY JABSHSNSAUIAJAN" or any of the lines of that, you should remember that this is just a comment from a guy whos thinking about stuffs. Dont start a 3rd Balkan War on the replies, I dont mean to annoy or disrespect. Please take my comment with a grain of salt.
1:46 actually montenegro got more teritory in san stefano than berlin congress,oposing to that,serbia got less teritory in san stefan than in berlin congress
Black News Indeed!
Love Russia from America 🇷🇺💙🇺🇸
Yea always
Love America from Russia 🇷🇺🕊️💙❤️🇺🇲
God fucking danm it.we could have had constantinople back to othodox.
Ehh, Constantinople was too close
Never gon happen
konstantinopolis😂
Also third march ( the treaty of san stefano ) is the independent day of bulgaria ( my mom's homenation )