They may say I’m back, but you don’t care any more. That’s the worst part because that’s not who we want anymore, we don’t want any of them any more! At this point what they use to be isn’t what we want any more either, they would have to out do all the efforts we did as the empathetic serving spouse to win us back, they will never be able to do that!
Can you do a video on victims who crave a hoover during this time of year? Not because they want contact with the narc back but just the craving of the narc being desperate and thinking of you instead of you only thinking of them. Really struggling with it
Yea..I know exactly what u mean ..but don't think about it..remember...they were fake when u met them....really...get that ..say it out loud..THEY ARE NOT REAL ....be well
Some of them don’t Hoover for awhile because they want you to Hoover them. They intentionally do this. Give yourself grace at this time and pour into you. I know what you mean by wanting to be wanted but most times it isn’t worth it. Stay blessed & heal.
@@johnbruce3224 Exactly, it's the moving on and shining but still that desire to be hoovered just to reject them, kind of like justice. It makes you feel undesired when they don't even hoover or care at all to hoover you back
When my ex sensed that I was done , he tried everything to lure me back . . . When that failed he developed some illness - he would leave the meds where I could see them . . . He was not one to take meds even under prescription because that meant that he could drink his booze . . . This did not move me . . .
My narc ex has created a mysterious “heart illness” that he’s had since high school or college…allegedly. Apparently, he doesn’t know how much time he has left and blah blah. I changed the subject when he asked me if I’d miss him when he’s gone. I changed the subject. I don’t know what heart condition causes one to pass blood clots while sneezing or throwing up and I don’t care enough to research. My life will continue after his d3ath🤷🏾♀️
Threatening to "Unalive" themselves is just another form of manipulation. I realized the ex narc I dumped 2 years ago, who said he had "suicidal thoughts at certain times over his life", would absolutely never do that given how perfect he views himself. But, it worked for a while. And, this loser is 65 years old. No chance the world would get lucky enough to see him exit from it!
@@ladyredd6857 It would not be funny if the narc had any integrity, but these people put their partners through so much that how could you not say that to him, knowing he is just manipulating you!?
Hi Lee, I really love your intro music, personality, content, sense of humor and willingness, to empower us empaths. Very grateful from Texas 🤠 God bless you & yours always & in ALL ways ❤
LEE are these signs common in those type of narcs who completely leave you alone and don't hoover because their ego is too high ? It been a year since he did me dirty, and no sign of him after that.
Can you explain further what you mean? Similar situation for me. I was left feeling that he believed he had won. The last time I saw him in early July was the worst instance of psychological abuse I had experienced from him during the 11 months that we had been interacting, and it caused me to tell him that he was never, ever going to treat me that way again. I guess he wanted me to dump him so he could be "free" to be with the new supply with whom he was going to live (as I realized days later). I was no loss to him whatsoever. It is blatantly evident, looking back now, that he despised me and treated me accordingly. He had been seeing the new supply for about two weeks already and was in essence done with me. I only realized this several days after our final interaction, when I pieced it all together. He replaced me with someone 15 to 20 years younger and with whom he could share an apartment and live off of. He found a sugar mommy, caretaker, slave. He is also a covert malignant narc, as far as I could determine . Sadistic, very fake, con artist. Even deceiving the police, as I witnessed firsthand. As an aside, he was so grandiose and delusional, he actually believed, or wanted others to believe, that he caused the COVID 19 pandemic. He stated this a number of times to me.,@@MentalHealness
My ex-husband, I believe started a smear campaign using my pastor as an ear to spill all his falsehood. It is a fight I have to battle everyday...to love my pastor either way. My pastor one day told me he wrote her a 7 page letter about "how much he loves me", and to think that I went through spiritual hell and she knew it...and yet, he convinced her he was the one who loved me but I walked out on the marriage. I ask God to place love and forgiveness through all this because I really believe he has convinced her on MANY LEVELS that I was the enemy. He told me, before we split, "If you do this, If you leave me, your're gonna be sorry and you're gonna suffer " I did suffer ...bit only cuz I did it on my own for a while, I did not suffer because "I lost him" as he thought.
hey lee hope you are well thank you so much for the informative content , I have a narcissistic father who went on silent treatment because a family meeting was called to resolve issues related to him and gave us silent treatment which lasted for 2 years ,I have called another family to discuss the situation and its effects which are really bad because I have a younger sister in middle school and I'm in tertiary kindly advise me on what could I possibly expect from this
My ex gf had almost all narcissistic traits,except she didn’t try to keep contact with me or threaten harm. Also she didn’t try to change herself back to when we first got together. My question is,is it possible for someone to be a narcissist if they don’t show all of the signs in your videos? She lacked empathy,very cold,and did a lot of gaslighting!
@MentalHealness I've watched your videos for a few years now, helped me with breaking off with my Mother. Can you try and make some videos about a Narcissist Mother neglecting her 3 sons from 3 different fathers. All videos i find online is always about a Narcissist Father/mother to daughter but never on Neglected sons from a Mother. I was the Golden child(Im the oldest), until i grew up to my 30s and went no contact, now im turning in to the black sheep from what i hear her talking about me from some relatives that is still in contact with her.
also, they try to hack you if they know you wont respond to another account. on 9/11, she did it, which was supposed to be a representation of hijacking my life. did any of you guys have this happen too?
Lee, I'm in therapy and I'm concerned I might also be a narcissist. Besides this channel, what books or other resources would you recommend for someone in that position?
@@MentalHealness Looking forward to the video on this topic. I’m concerned I’m turning into a narc as well. I thought these new behaviors I’m expressing are self preservation along my healing journey but I’m not too sure. I’ve put a lot of effort into my healing journey and would like more insight✨
My narc ex has created a mysterious “heart illness” that he’s had since high school or college…allegedly. Apparently, he doesn’t know how much time he has left and blah blah. I changed the subject when he asked me if I’d miss him when he’s gone. I changed the subject. I don’t know what heart condition causes one to pass blood clots while sneezing or throwing up and I don’t care enough to research. My life will continue after his d3ath🤷🏾♀️
Lee, someone not even have the decency to reply my Goodmorning whilst still living under one roof with three small children. What do u suggest: I’ll stop greeting too?
Oh the i have a new girl interested in me, be careful, or you will lose me. I knew exactly what he was doing, but i was happy for him and told him to go on dates with her. But i guess i was a little jealous. I did hold him back for a few week but we didn't get back together because his words became more vulgar, and he started getting extremely aggressive. 💔 im so over feeling down.
When my 17 y.o. started treating me differently I knew desperation/smear campaign was in full swing. Not only were they “scared of me because I was crazy”, they cooked up scenarios to get me near him. It was a wild ride from beginning to end. None of it made sense.
I understand. You don’t feel “good enough” to be hoovered, and it hurts our egos that they don’t Go CrAzY over us, but you shouldn’t want that, if you were being bothered by a narcissist then in their minds you’re not respected to be left alone, to them you’re still foolish enough to be treated horribly. Coming back isn’t the compliment you think it is. I’ve had almost every ex come back once and at one point it was flattering but I know now, they did it, because, yes sure I’m great ;p but on their side it’s because they still thought they could just pluck me out of wherever I was in life without considering that I actually have a life outside of them. It’s really disrespectful when you think about it. P.s. my ex is stalking, tried offing myself in front of me and my child, stole money from me, and still doesn’t see how severe his actions are. You do NOT want to be hoovered.
@@lin-dundunduunnn It's the flattery indeed!! I want the strength to get hoovered, the fact that he still thinks about me or desires me and me just declining him as vengeance. But I don't get that strength since he doesn't hoover, it seems like he doesn't desire to be back anyway, it makes me feel somewhat undesired
He's just threatening to harm himself because he don't want to pay the child support that he opened the case on himself😂😂😂🎰🙌🏽 after he left me and his kids for his coworker ❤️🩹
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They definitely do. They are capable of treating you right but choose not to. The mental and emotional abuse is real
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😂😂 “I know you all experienced this one - they threaten to harm themselves “ yes sir
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He literally said he didnt like me and things about me .... then stand on it. Absolutely no reason to circle back.
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Exactly he talked about me like a dog and to his new supply
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🔥🔥🔥 Lee you have been my rock during a very painful 2024 trauma bond. Getting through it now thank you! 💪
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Or they go to the woman they claim is disgusting and you find out he’s been laying with her the entire time
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And they truly are gross lol
They're playing with our empathy 🧠 We"re ALL just objects them - We ALL got THIS!🙏🧠
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I saw the shift in conversation when I called his bluff.
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The new supply can be a sign of desperation also. I think the technical term is “panic pick” lol.
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They may say I’m back, but you don’t care any more. That’s the worst part because that’s not who we want anymore, we don’t want any of them any more! At this point what they use to be isn’t what we want any more either, they would have to out do all the efforts we did as the empathetic serving spouse to win us back, they will never be able to do that!
The love pop theory makes SO MUCH MORE sense in longterm relationships with a narc - Thank you for ongoing knowlegde🙏🧠
🙏 you’re welcome
When they go back to their "old self" it's short lived 😂 Don't fall for it
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Lee, I'm sorry I can hit the subscribe button only once 😘🙏❤❤❤
Thank you very much - you are a very good teacher ❤❤❤❤❤
Thank you! 😃
They'll threaten DIVORCE every time and he still here smh lol
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Thank you so much for your tips Lee.
I'm on therapy, but your tips adds a lot good information to deal with the narcissist.
You’re welcome. Stay empowered
Ok ok. You’ve convinced me to subscribe. Oh wait, I already am
They start reaching out by way of texting, emailing, calling around your birthday, holidays, and whenever they are missing you instead of dissing you
Can you do a video on victims who crave a hoover during this time of year? Not because they want contact with the narc back but just the craving of the narc being desperate and thinking of you instead of you only thinking of them. Really struggling with it
i dont even know what that video would look like. i would say go to therapy and find out what YOU are missing within yourself
Yea..I know exactly what u mean ..but don't think about it..remember...they were fake when u met them....really...get that ..say it out loud..THEY ARE NOT REAL ....be well
Some of them don’t Hoover for awhile because they want you to Hoover them. They intentionally do this. Give yourself grace at this time and pour into you. I know what you mean by wanting to be wanted but most times it isn’t worth it. Stay blessed & heal.
It’s called Reverse Hoover.
@@johnbruce3224 Exactly, it's the moving on and shining but still that desire to be hoovered just to reject them, kind of like justice. It makes you feel undesired when they don't even hoover or care at all to hoover you back
When my ex sensed that I was done , he tried everything to lure me back . . . When that failed he developed some illness - he would leave the meds where I could see them . . . He was not one to take meds even under prescription because that meant that he could drink his booze . . . This did not move me . . .
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My narc ex has created a mysterious “heart illness” that he’s had since high school or college…allegedly. Apparently, he doesn’t know how much time he has left and blah blah. I changed the subject when he asked me if I’d miss him when he’s gone. I changed the subject. I don’t know what heart condition causes one to pass blood clots while sneezing or throwing up and I don’t care enough to research. My life will continue after his d3ath🤷🏾♀️
Protect your peace
Got hoovered once - Aint gonna happen again 4 the rest of my lifetime!🧠
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same here 1 and done never happened again. I stay FAR away FAR
Threatening to "Unalive" themselves is just another form of manipulation. I realized the ex narc I dumped 2 years ago, who said he had "suicidal thoughts at certain times over his life", would absolutely never do that given how perfect he views himself. But, it worked for a while. And, this loser is 65 years old. No chance the world would get lucky enough to see him exit from it!
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When my say stuff like that I tell him okay I still have life insurance for you me and the kids will be good😂 but not funny😅
@@ladyredd6857 It would not be funny if the narc had any integrity, but these people put their partners through so much that how could you not say that to him, knowing he is just manipulating you!?
Hi Lee, I really love your intro music, personality, content, sense of humor and willingness, to empower us empaths. Very grateful from Texas 🤠 God bless you & yours always & in ALL ways ❤
You are so welcome. God bless you as well
Why do ex spouses want to still argue?
It’s over
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LEE are these signs common in those type of narcs who completely leave you alone and don't hoover because their ego is too high ? It been a year since he did me dirty, and no sign of him after that.
That means you won
Can you explain further what you mean? Similar situation for me. I was left feeling that he believed he had won. The last time I saw him in early July was the worst instance of psychological abuse I had experienced from him during the 11 months that we had been interacting, and it caused me to tell him that he was never, ever going to treat me that way again. I guess he wanted me to dump him so he could be "free" to be with the new supply with whom he was going to live (as I realized days later).
I was no loss to him whatsoever. It is blatantly evident, looking back now, that he despised me and treated me accordingly. He had been seeing the new supply for about two weeks already and was in essence done with me. I only realized this several days after our final interaction, when I pieced it all together. He replaced me with someone 15 to 20 years younger and with whom he could share an apartment and live off of. He found a sugar mommy, caretaker, slave. He is also a covert malignant narc, as far as I could determine . Sadistic, very fake, con artist. Even deceiving the police, as I witnessed firsthand. As an aside, he was so grandiose and delusional, he actually believed, or wanted others to believe, that
he caused the COVID 19 pandemic. He stated this a number of times to me.,@@MentalHealness
I couldn't stand that faulse smile🤡that psycho used. What a creep.😢
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They're desperate ALL the time 24/7!😂
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Snakes, cheating rats
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True . Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
BAM !!!
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What does it mean when a narcissist goes ghost. Like no contact they refuse to let anyone hear how they are doing?
My ex-husband, I believe started a smear campaign using my pastor as an ear to spill all his falsehood. It is a fight I have to battle everyday...to love my pastor either way. My pastor one day told me he wrote her a 7 page letter about "how much he loves me", and to think that I went through spiritual hell and she knew it...and yet, he convinced her he was the one who loved me but I walked out on the marriage. I ask God to place love and forgiveness through all this because I really believe he has convinced her on MANY LEVELS that I was the enemy. He told me, before we split, "If you do this, If you leave me, your're gonna be sorry and you're gonna suffer " I did suffer ...bit only cuz I did it on my own for a while, I did not suffer because "I lost him" as he thought.
Thank you
You're welcome
Her new supply is a clear sign of desperation!! lol!!!
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hey lee hope you are well thank you so much for the informative content , I have a narcissistic father who went on silent treatment because a family meeting was called to resolve issues related to him and gave us silent treatment which lasted for 2 years ,I have called another family to discuss the situation and its effects which are really bad because I have a younger sister in middle school and I'm in tertiary kindly advise me on what could I possibly expect from this
My ex gf had almost all narcissistic traits,except she didn’t try to keep contact with me or threaten harm. Also she didn’t try to change herself back to when we first got together. My question is,is it possible for someone to be a narcissist if they don’t show all of the signs in your videos? She lacked empathy,very cold,and did a lot of gaslighting!
@MentalHealness I've watched your videos for a few years now, helped me with breaking off with my Mother. Can you try and make some videos about a Narcissist Mother neglecting her 3 sons from 3 different fathers. All videos i find online is always about a Narcissist Father/mother to daughter but never on Neglected sons from a Mother. I was the Golden child(Im the oldest), until i grew up to my 30s and went no contact, now im turning in to the black sheep from what i hear her talking about me from some relatives that is still in contact with her.
also, they try to hack you if they know you wont respond to another account. on 9/11, she did it, which was supposed to be a representation of hijacking my life. did any of you guys have this happen too?
Lee, I'm in therapy and I'm concerned I might also be a narcissist. Besides this channel, what books or other resources would you recommend for someone in that position?
Video coming soon on it.
@@MentalHealness Looking forward to the video on this topic. I’m concerned I’m turning into a narc as well. I thought these new behaviors I’m expressing are self preservation along my healing journey but I’m not too sure. I’ve put a lot of effort into my healing journey and would like more insight✨
My narc ex has created a mysterious “heart illness” that he’s had since high school or college…allegedly. Apparently, he doesn’t know how much time he has left and blah blah. I changed the subject when he asked me if I’d miss him when he’s gone. I changed the subject. I don’t know what heart condition causes one to pass blood clots while sneezing or throwing up and I don’t care enough to research. My life will continue after his d3ath🤷🏾♀️
Lee, someone not even have the decency to reply my Goodmorning whilst still living under one roof with three small children. What do u suggest: I’ll stop greeting too?
I would
My narc husband says good morning to me and I just roll my eyes (to myself) and do not say it back. Food for thought.
The whiny voice always SENDS MEEEEE 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Lmfao !
lol
Oh the i have a new girl interested in me, be careful, or you will lose me. I knew exactly what he was doing, but i was happy for him and told him to go on dates with her. But i guess i was a little jealous. I did hold him back for a few week but we didn't get back together because his words became more vulgar, and he started getting extremely aggressive. 💔 im so over feeling down.
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The sweetie baby came back for a minute. lol
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When my 17 y.o. started treating me differently I knew desperation/smear campaign was in full swing. Not only were they “scared of me because I was crazy”, they cooked up scenarios to get me near him. It was a wild ride from beginning to end. None of it made sense.
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You should take your child to a doctor right?
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Or they might email you if you changed your phone number 😅
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That's my nex 💯🗑
Whatevs. Do what they will. It has NO bearing on me. Sorry, NOT sorry.
Stay empowered
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narcisists cant feel happness them self
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It's tough because a handsome narcissist who gets a lot of female attention won't get desperate soon it seems. He still didn't hoover me after years.
why are you waiting years to be hoovered
I understand. You don’t feel “good enough” to be hoovered, and it hurts our egos that they don’t Go CrAzY over us, but you shouldn’t want that, if you were being bothered by a narcissist then in their minds you’re not respected to be left alone, to them you’re still foolish enough to be treated horribly.
Coming back isn’t the compliment you think it is.
I’ve had almost every ex come back once and at one point it was flattering but I know now, they did it, because, yes sure I’m great ;p but on their side it’s because they still thought they could just pluck me out of wherever I was in life without considering that I actually have a life outside of them. It’s really disrespectful when you think about it.
P.s. my ex is stalking, tried offing myself in front of me and my child, stole money from me, and still doesn’t see how severe his actions are. You do NOT want to be hoovered.
Sounds like my husband very cocky very arrogant and have very good🪵 makes the situation worse than on the inside he is a ugly ugly demonic person
@@lin-dundunduunnn It's the flattery indeed!! I want the strength to get hoovered, the fact that he still thinks about me or desires me and me just declining him as vengeance. But I don't get that strength since he doesn't hoover, it seems like he doesn't desire to be back anyway, it makes me feel somewhat undesired
@@lin-dundunduunnnI feel you… my narcissistic ex also stalks and do shit instead of any good stuff.
He told my cousin he don't want to be here i said good let him
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Thank u Lee
You’re welcome
Narcs r dudd🤔😃😞
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All these white knights just throwing themselves into the pike. We need to just disengage, y'all.
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Pewwwww
Pew
If I keep getting non-positive outcomes in my relationships, am I with a narcissist?
not necessarily
He's just threatening to harm himself because he don't want to pay the child support that he opened the case on himself😂😂😂🎰🙌🏽 after he left me and his kids for his coworker ❤️🩹
Pathetic
Rumpelstiltskin is my name!!!! 🍼🪒😫
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