Re: Flawless Garden. When Enlightened FIRST came out, you needed a flawless, I judge the titles on when they first came out generally speaking. Yes, nowadays, you don't.
I have not taken Reckoner off since the day I got it. I don't care if it's Gambit related, people need to know that the person they're playing against has no regard for their own sanity.
As a reckoner, I will say, going for it during Season of the Worthy satisfied my destiny urge after a 2 season break. I lost my sanity, but hey, I got top 100 gambit prime ELO. Biggest flex.
The garden "stop hitting yourself" challenge is easily one of the most painful raid challenges I've ever done throughout both D1 and D2. I'd rather do the opening encounter of Crown of sorrow 100 times in a row than ever attempting stop hitting yourself again.
The ironic thing, my buddy and i god that triumph by accident, but we usually run with our clan, we got it with lfg members. It was a benefit that we had blueberries and just general ignorance for me and him running around building plates we got the triumph from just playing
I think it's fine that Deadeye exists as such an easy title. I think they specifically designed it to be something a lot of players would look at and go "Hey, I could probably do that," which would then potentially get more people interested in grinding for the other titles once they already have one
Funny cause I only needed to get the Wyvern kills and the Gambit triumph. Which is also conveniently the last one I needed for Dredgen too. I also Gilded it the same day I got it. Made me realise how good the rocket this season is.
Cursebreaker isn’t hard to get, but it is my favorite. The Dreaming City is my favorite location in the game, and Cursebreaker was also the first title I really wanted go out of my way to get.
Cursebreaker isn't hard to get but it takes fucking AGES to collect all the bones and eggs due to some of them being spread amongs half a dozen ascendant challenges, of which there is only one per week. I 100% have ot equipped for the cool factor alone, though.
Yep. I have both conqueror and descendant, but cursebreaker sounds so awesome (and it's the first title I got that was sort of grindy) I always put it on
Doing Reckoner solo was one hell of an experience. I don’t want to do it again… I get flashbacks every now and then that haunt me. Fun fact. I don’t play gambit anymore and I don’t even bother doing the weekly pinnacle challenge. It just isn’t worth it for me.
@@BrocKelley Skill and luck.....Especially doing it solo and doing the Reaper part of the title quest. That was horrible since you were essentially fighting not only your opponents and adds, but your own teamates for kills
I’ll never take off Fatebreaker cause of how awesome it felt to complete the final challenge with my raid team. One of the most memorable gaming moments I ever had.
I'll always remember that grinding for blacksmith and shadow at the same time from almost 0 to 100 during the last weeks they were technically possible to get, trusting LFG raid teams, was the right choice. YEP.
Yeah, me and a friend did a bunch of grinding. We finished Blacksmith with 3 weeks to go, so we went and did the Niobe Labs Puzzle with a really chill warlock over the next week
I have Shadow and I havent taken it off since I got it. Especially now that you cant get it anymore. Crown of Sorrow holds a place in my heart as my introduction into doing Raids on day 1. While I didnt attempt Day 1 Crown, I did it in the first week. And the feeling of earning something, the jacket, has kept me on the path of hardcore content. I have gotten DSC and VOG Day 1 emblems and jackets, with hopefully more raids to tag on my own personal belt. Thank you Crown of Sorrow, I miss you.
@@sxcculent wouldn't be destiny unless you get burnt out and end up missing the best content :). Haha yeah that's why I got to level 34 in Season of Dawn
After a long break from Destiny 1 I came back to the world of Destiny when D2 went free - I came SO close to getting the Wayfarer title in the mad panic before sunsetting hit, only to be denied it because I think it I needed the Heroic Adventures to rotate around to Mercury or something, and it never happened before Beyond Light hit like the ultimate ban-hammer. Gutted.
It did originally, that’s why a lot of us that got it are pissed about it. We had to do something that made the title hard to get now literally anyone can have it in about 6 garden runs
@@marceletta true I just think all raid titles should require a flawless run its meant to be mastering a raid and nothing is a bigger demonstration of mastering it than a flawless run
@@vex6213 yeah fair enough. I don’t know why I thought proving grounds was in this season alongside corrupted, I would’ve thrown hands with bungle for that 😂
My favourite title is still Shadow because that was my favourite season, I loved the raid, and the lore implications of being a shadow is pretty cool I guess.
I have a pretty equal amount of respect for all the titles that require you to go out of your way to achieve it. I got a bunch of the titles mostly just because I participated in the season, but I much prefer using ones like reckoner, where I actually had to put work in. Also an Iron Lord title would be cool to add alongside the iron banner rework
Shadow gang. In terms of the title I had the most fun getting, Harbinger takes the top. Doing the master nightmare hunt speed runs were very fun and fulfilling.
My team ran a flawless Last Wish on our first try without breaking much of a sweat even with the Guitar error looming over our heads at the time. Master VoG challenges are harder hands down. Your community is voting on things they haven't even attempted.
I feel like a lot more people will get fatebreaker by the end of this season simply because its so damn long so they'll have enough level to somewhat easily do the master challenges
I really think people are undermining the struggle wayfarer had to go through. Sure a lot of the challenges are easy, but 3 badges purely related to RNG, taking about 40 complete runs of EP on Mars, the amount of wells I had to do, and the weekly waits to get everything else. This was easily one of the most time consuming titles despite it not really being "hard" to obtain, the difficulty was going through your own sanity to collect all of these items. Def deserves a much higher spot on the list imo.
Removing flawless requirements from raid titles was a big mistake imo, I'm glad they at least kept them on the existing ones. Rivensbane is one of the biggest flex ingame and I hope it stays that way.
i think of titles as a way of showing you have an activity mastered, which is why i love shadow and rivensbane so much. imo flawless raids (and stuff like heroic menagerie) are the ultimate test of if you really are good at a raid or not
I’m still annoyed they removed the flawless requirement from enlightened. Imo all raids titles should require a flawless run the whole point of the title is you’ve mastered the raid going flawless is the ultimate test of that. Personally I would like a title called something like “Flawless Raider” (the d1 achievement for a flawless raid) which you get for doing every raid currently available flawlessly, when a new raid is added you lose the title until you’ve done it then get the ability to select it again.
Fully disagree sometimes ppl die with no fault of their own just cuzz the raid decided to kill u going flawless in a raid doesn't mean u mastered shit. It means u were lucky a bug or some dumb shit didn't kill you.
@@809Bman I mean the tiny percentage of deaths due to bullshit compared to the massive amount of deaths due to fuck ups or people over estimating their ability and losing a fight I’d say flawless does prove a decent amount of skill. Most “oh the game just killed me” is somebody dying to architects because they let themselves be stomped by a wyvern or something and want to blame the game rather than their positioning being shit
Got Deadeye yesterday. Now have that and Wayfarer 😂 I'm not really an endgame player but I appreciate bungie for putting in the low skill titles for us casuals
As a Reckoner since season of the Drifter (where the extreme pain was at its peak. Also the season it came out lol), it almost never comes off my character. I do sometimes switch to enlightened and shadow just to let people know; “yes, I sometimes raid”. But other than that, Reckoner stays on.
Descendant will always be an S tier for me. Mostly bc i overcame the struggle of keeping my sanity when having to do 90 clears, 72 looted, before I got Eyes.
Shadow was something I worked EXTREMELY hard to get and I’m proud of it. I’ll probably never take it off. Heroic menagerie was almost impossible to flawless. I’m glad it’s a pretty exclusive deal for those who had to go through that bullshit 😂
Shadow was a testament of faith and sheer persistence you're mental state has to be at full capacity to last so much time running with teams that lacked patience and competence 💀
This is purely anecdotal so it doesn't really hold much weight, but a bunch of my friends picked up destiny around the time vog dropped this year. After getting their light up, I ran every raid with them and just for the laughs of it, my clan decided to try a Petra's run last wish with one of them. We ended up clearing it on our first try and what ended up being our new light's second last wish clear. On the other hand, master vog nearly broke us. I think flawless raid runs are just more anxious, but I believe that with enough repetition, muscle memory, determination (and maybe a little luck) you will eventually get it done. It's something that has the potential to be easy after enough practice. Master vog will always be challenging because it's not the mechanics that make it hard, but the sheer damage output of the enemies and that's never going to go away.
Still think without a doubt Savior is the coolest sounding title, how good was that season and how difficult were seasonal titles back then? Getting Komodo alone was harder than all 4 beyond light seasonal titles
i also don't have any of the beyond light seasonal titles except splicer. i'm one off chosen but no one wants to take me through presage to find the things
@@dankerbell I just remember hating every minute of crucible hearing that stupid arbalest noise. I was really just highlighting how now you can just login on reset day for 2hrs the entire season and still be able to pick up the title. Not to mention deadeye+gild handout, I’m just upset deadeye came before flawless+solo all master lost sectors title. Btw datto has vid on glycon clues, esoterik should also have the timestamped full guide.
Descendant was my first tile, would’ve happily went flawless for it too but not super upset I didn’t have to, working long hours makes it hard to find time to grind out all those challenges cid VoG even though I want to
I’m sad because all I needed for Shadow was to slot more runes into my Chalice and get the sparrow. Really hope it comes back with rotations so I can snag it really quick. 😭
SAAAAAAAME. I got everything else quickly enough(and enjoyed it! a lot!) but doing all the runes after they fixed the Chalice bug was just something I never got around to doing. I still had like a third of the way to go. It doesn't matter that much to me bc never would've gotten the other Forsaken Seasonal titles, Blacksmith is even more grindy and Reckoner is death incarnate. Rivensbane never getting taken off though, so *shrug*
You’re telling me you did those god damn HEROIC menagerie flawless and the crown flawless without getting cursed AND you got every weapon and armor including tarabah plus every single menagerie challenge and you missed it because of RUNES?
@@Pokemonmaster32925 That’s what I was saying… I don’t wanna be a negative Nancy, but that’s reeeeeeeeeeeally hard to believe. Most people do those easy little things first.
@@Pokemonmaster32925 Yes, the runes slotted and the sparrow for collection with it and I just didn’t do it. I got burned out because it was a dry period in the game.
@@MikeAndros0 you get error coded if you have overloads on near the beginning of LW. It’s not directly correlated with oracles but it usually happens around the time the Oracle chimes
@@MikeAndros0 We usually load in first oracle goes off and boom someone goes to desktop. Happens every time i do the raid to at least, 1-2 group members before Kalli, and right after seeing the bridge for the bridge to shuro chi i believe. We all do mostly endgame content or pvp most days, so it can be a champion mod causing it as stated :)
My first ever seal was Warden, given how I haven’t played Destiny 2 until season 9? I’m still super proud of Warden and will hopefully go for other titles!
I can’t get warden simply because I don’t have 2 other friends who have Hawkmoon, only 1 friend of mine has hawkmoon and the third simply doesn’t want to grind for it
I haven't taken Rivensbane off for more than a few minutes since I got it a few months ago. By far the coolest title, but Fatebreaker commands respect.
Since you asked about Conqueror, I finally got it last season, but I will not be gilding it because I did not appreciate when it asked to re-complete the Glassway GM I just did to get the seal in the first place. I understand that certain triumphs unlock after gilding is available, but the Weekly Challenges have been flashing in-game for weeks, proving that some triumphs are live in the game, even before they are visible to the player. Plus I've had my fill after 6 different GMs (9 total) thank you very much. As for Gilded Deadeye, finally gilded it last week. Only because I was working on the triumphs before they were put into a seal. As you said, expecting the percentage of that to skyrocket.
I first started doing GMs last season and once I saw I had most of the requirements done for Conqueror, I figured I'd go for it. I'm never taking Conqueror off and I never want to zone into glassway again.
I was happy enough when I got Splicer a week ago, I like the name and it was my first titled. I got back into the game about a month and a half ago haven’t played since Forsaken launched. I’m close to Dredgen, but the 75 motes without losing any is harder now that there’s only 1 round in each Gambit match.
I place Fatebreaker above flawless for this reason: you can reasonably get carried to the flawless title if you have good carries. You CANNOT get carried to fatebreaker no matter how good your team is. I’ve done master VoG with players above light for the raid who die more than I was 10 levels under. If you yourself are not good at the game/raids and/or don’t have to time to put into the game to be a minimum 15 under, you will not complete master vog. It requires all 6 players to be proper light AND skill level for the raid. And, literally no person I know is even dumb enough to CONSIDER carrying someone to fatebreaker. And let’s not talk about the RNG needed.
As a Flawless guardian I agree with you good sir. People think that PvE is easy mode until you tell them to try to get Raid titles and Conqueror. Some of my Flawless/Unbroken friends wanted to try out Conquest Mode VoG, they felt very confident and man, it didn’t end up well, they wanted to cry so hard lmfaoooo.
u dont need to do the hardest gm for conqueror, u can just wait for next season since Conqueror is only needs 6 unique gm and it transfers across seasons, so it's actually one of the easiest seals
@@dankerbell Lol, agreed. Last season was easy outside of Glassway. We beat Hallowed Lair last night, but Corrupted will be tough. It took us a lot of tries last time Corrupted was a GM.
I don't care if the community doesn't like the MM titles for cool factor, I'm not taking MMXX off. It was the first title I actually tried to get, and led to my first raid clears in D2 (having not raided since D1)
Coolest for me were Harbinger, Shadow, Undying. Dredgen would be a cool title if it was harder to get tbh. Lore wise Dredgens are cool, but the title reduces that factor 😂
As a solo player the season titles have been great as most of the time it's not a stretch. The old seasonal titles, prior to beyond light, still had me running into an occasional road block.
I primary play solo as well and one of my favorite things was getting the cursebreaker title. Pretty much all of it can be done solo, except for/the hardest part being getting the eggs post morgeth in LW. I begged a friend and we buckled down and we 3 manned it (had to call in one of his friends for extra dps). But because of that I'll never take cursebreaker off.
@@scalychannel5897 I remember you used to be able to oob over the barrier w middle tree gunslinger and that was fixed. Didn't know there was another way, when was that figured out?
Argue that wayfarer/ cursebreaker was harder then seasonal titles due to MASSIVE amounts of RNG in some cases requiring lots of grinding and huge reset lockouts. If I am not mistaken, most seasonal titles can be completed all at once at the end of the season (granted, some NON title seasonal triumphs are tied to crucible rotations). Cursebreaker for example, if I am remembering correctly, is tied to the ascendant challenges with Eggs and Ahamkara bones being impossible to get unless you are on that week rotation.
I maintain that Fatebreaker is the hardest title. Very few will ever even be close to skilled enough to beat a master mode VoG, and doing so with challenges REPEATEDLY is largely untenable, whereas one flawless Last Wish isn’t that bad at all, because the raid is legitimately extremely easy.
the issue with Fatebreaker Shadow Reckoner and Rivensbane is the time commitment you had to find sole people to want to run it with you which could take up to weeks or a month because the mental fortitude of having to attempt it over and over again is extremely pain wrenching knowing that you'll get it done in the slimmest way especially when Shadow had the flawless wipe bug that interfered with the completion it was merely impossible
I still think Dredgen is one of the coolest, just from all the lore from yor and thorn and stuff. I think the title is relatively easy to get, but gilding it is insanely hard. Think about it, most of the stuff is easy, but 50 wins… because the game is so full of team stacks and your win rate is often lower than 50%, it’s gonna take a while. Plus, you have to suffer through gambit, the ULTIMATE test of endurance and perseverance. I’ve gilded my title 3 times now, it’s been a horrible grind but honestly I’m really proud because it’s very much a flex.
I dont really care about rarity for titles I choose titles that more fit my characters in my head like dredgen or wayfarer for hunter, splicer or chronicler for warlock and unbroken for titan
Because there is so little to do for the Flawless title, I honestly don’t think its all that difficult to get. Unbroken is definitely harder than most and is probably the hardest due tot he time sink required along with the additional requirements. For me, rivensbane title is the hardest to acquire, but is honestly kinda lackluster.
@@CapCody you get it from finishing altars of sorrow, the drop rate is insanely low tho…it’s the only thing I’m missing for Harbinger but at this point I don’t think I can get it simply because nobody does altars of sorrow
i have a problem with the community cool tier list. I personally think lower-difficulty titles like dredgen, warden, even deadeye are ranked super low, even though as words themselves, they could be considered pretty cool
The titles for season of the Undying and Dawn should be higher than the others because it required you to earn the seasonal weapons unlike the ones after.
I started playing in arrivals, decided to go for blacksmith in the last 6 weeks before it became unobtainable, did flawless sotp on the last day with an lfg and did all 100 frames in 4 days (300 Forges).
Not to toot my fireteams horn but our proudest achievement is that our Flawless Scourge run is also our fastest at 17 mins 32s. I’m so mad that stat tracker is gone from the emblem but I still wear my Blacksmith title with pride.
I like my guilded deadeye title and forerunner, I don't care what people think.. however, due to how people think about dredgen, I've had to remove it.
Any Reckoners out there that still collect titles but don’t equip any of them because Reckoner is the title to let people know that you have become a husk of your former self?
Re: Flawless Garden. When Enlightened FIRST came out, you needed a flawless, I judge the titles on when they first came out generally speaking. Yes, nowadays, you don't.
But you still need the flawless shader for the collection badge right?
nope
@@blair5655 not anymore
@@blair5655 No, just the shader that comes from competing all the challenges.
Yeah I wasn’t aware of this, since I got the seal without flawless and just assumed the reqs didn’t change
I have not taken Reckoner off since the day I got it. I don't care if it's Gambit related, people need to know that the person they're playing against has no regard for their own sanity.
Heck yeah. Still wear mine everyday
Fellow Reckoner here.. it's a shame we lost our sanity, but at least it was worth it.. *right?*
As a reckoner, I will say, going for it during Season of the Worthy satisfied my destiny urge after a 2 season break. I lost my sanity, but hey, I got top 100 gambit prime ELO. Biggest flex.
It’s a true chad title.
Whenever I see a reckoner in the wild, I always know the hell they went through man. Respect.
Whenever i see a reckoner all i can think is “wow that guy really likes pain”.
yeah, it's an instant sign they should be respected for me
@@dankerbell nah bro is easy af hahaha
The garden "stop hitting yourself" challenge is easily one of the most painful raid challenges I've ever done throughout both D1 and D2. I'd rather do the opening encounter of Crown of sorrow 100 times in a row than ever attempting stop hitting yourself again.
F me, it's the only one I'm missing for Enlightend...
Agreed, I hated that challenge. Honestly think it has harder than my flawless GOS and flawless LW
The ironic thing, my buddy and i god that triumph by accident, but we usually run with our clan, we got it with lfg members. It was a benefit that we had blueberries and just general ignorance for me and him running around building plates we got the triumph from just playing
Zero to One Hundred is almost just as bad
Warlock with the Stag, sitting a rift, with stasis this is even easier than it was before.
I think it's fine that Deadeye exists as such an easy title. I think they specifically designed it to be something a lot of players would look at and go "Hey, I could probably do that," which would then potentially get more people interested in grinding for the other titles once they already have one
Funny cause I only needed to get the Wyvern kills and the Gambit triumph. Which is also conveniently the last one I needed for Dredgen too.
I also Gilded it the same day I got it. Made me realise how good the rocket this season is.
This is exactly what happened to me. Didnt bother with any titles until I saw deadeye then started going for it, now Im working on 3 different titles
and yet it's infinitely harder than dredgen for someone like me because i fucking hate pvp, i have none of the uninterrupted medal kill triumphs
Yea, I just got it the other day. It's the first title I ever really cared enough to get. The other ones seem so boring and unfun to me.
Congrats on your participation award :)
Cursebreaker isn’t hard to get, but it is my favorite. The Dreaming City is my favorite location in the game, and Cursebreaker was also the first title I really wanted go out of my way to get.
This guy gets it. Literally right after I first ran Shattered Throne, I knew Cursebreaker was something I wanted. It’s 100% cool factor
Cursebreaker isn't hard to get but it takes fucking AGES to collect all the bones and eggs due to some of them being spread amongs half a dozen ascendant challenges, of which there is only one per week. I 100% have ot equipped for the cool factor alone, though.
I wear it out of spite for the 6 months of 3 ascendant challenges a week it took to get that god-forsaken (hehe) ghost shell.
THIS. It also sounds awesome
Yep. I have both conqueror and descendant, but cursebreaker sounds so awesome (and it's the first title I got that was sort of grindy) I always put it on
I’ve been rocking Forerunner because I like halo. Pretty much the only reason
I missed out on it. Maybe they could add Reclaimer or something, I'm sure everyone would use it but it'd be cool to have for myself.
Same I'm suprised no one thought it was a "cool word" one lol I love it
I like my guilded deadeye title and forerunner, I don't care what people think.. however, due to how people think about dredgen I've had to remove it.
i keep it on one of my alts for this exact reason
@@djad54 same
I don’t care about any other seal; The Blacksmith stays on.
Imo probably top three coolest one, slightly jealous i dont have it
Same, my favorite subclass is Sunbreaker and I also kinda like watching blacksmithing videos, so Blacksmith fits nicely.
Amen
I like Forerunner. Gotta uphold the Mantle of Responsibility.
I was one forge weapons away from getting that and the ship when the season ended. Had no idea😭
Doing Reckoner solo was one hell of an experience. I don’t want to do it again… I get flashbacks every now and then that haunt me.
Fun fact. I don’t play gambit anymore and I don’t even bother doing the weekly pinnacle challenge. It just isn’t worth it for me.
I never got reckoner but i understand why people would be soul destroyed and I don't blame you for not playing it anymore😂
I did the same thing but now I roll over people for pinnacles.
Getting the massacre medals, the motes drained, and the small blockers banks was insanity set to the maximum.
I feel bad for anybody who grinded for Reckoner
I feel bad for the peasants who don’t have it
@@BrocKelley reckoning was fun in the same sense that gambit is fun now, I can play 3-5 matches but after that it gets repetitive
@@BrocKelley Skill and luck.....Especially doing it solo and doing the Reaper part of the title quest. That was horrible since you were essentially fighting not only your opponents and adds, but your own teamates for kills
When you completed it in solo que 😭
Don't. I loved it.
I’ll never take off Fatebreaker cause of how awesome it felt to complete the final challenge with my raid team. One of the most memorable gaming moments I ever had.
congrats! I'm jealous because my raid team doesn't want to run Master encounters so I had to LFG for the seal :|
meanwhile i was fucking with 2 russians girls hahahaha
I'll always remember that grinding for blacksmith and shadow at the same time from almost 0 to 100 during the last weeks they were technically possible to get, trusting LFG raid teams, was the right choice. YEP.
Yeah, me and a friend did a bunch of grinding. We finished Blacksmith with 3 weeks to go, so we went and did the Niobe Labs Puzzle with a really chill warlock over the next week
I have Shadow and I havent taken it off since I got it. Especially now that you cant get it anymore. Crown of Sorrow holds a place in my heart as my introduction into doing Raids on day 1. While I didnt attempt Day 1 Crown, I did it in the first week. And the feeling of earning something, the jacket, has kept me on the path of hardcore content. I have gotten DSC and VOG Day 1 emblems and jackets, with hopefully more raids to tag on my own personal belt. Thank you Crown of Sorrow, I miss you.
Goat 🐐 wish I had the chance to do more day 1 raids, never have a team or im burnt out from the game. all the jackets are dope too
@@sxcculent wouldn't be destiny unless you get burnt out and end up missing the best content :). Haha yeah that's why I got to level 34 in Season of Dawn
Same man, gotta love how was season of opulence. Never taking shadow off
I like the addition of Deadeye this season. It's a new title in place of those long-term ones like Wayfinder, in my eyes
This is the content we need. Also, considering it took me 54 vog runs to get vex, fatebreaker is my personal S# tier
For me its Rivensbane, because it took me 150+ chests to get 1k
Also doing all the máster challenges I mean máster VoG by itself is Harper than a Grandmaster and now add the challenges
Same for me, took me 57 runs for my vex
I got it first try and was carried
I got the vex on the first run and actually was invited to do only the final boss part. Really ticked everyone off
Enlightened doesn't require a flawless Garden completion, they took out the flawless shader from the collection seal for the raid 2 years ago.
After a long break from Destiny 1 I came back to the world of Destiny when D2 went free - I came SO close to getting the Wayfarer title in the mad panic before sunsetting hit, only to be denied it because I think it I needed the Heroic Adventures to rotate around to Mercury or something, and it never happened before Beyond Light hit like the ultimate ban-hammer. Gutted.
Garden flawless isn’t needed for seal though when you are talking about enlightened
when he got it, it required flawless
It did originally, that’s why a lot of us that got it are pissed about it. We had to do something that made the title hard to get now literally anyone can have it in about 6 garden runs
@@user-ns3vs3bp3e but let's be real like 3 fireteam actually run garden
@@marceletta true I just think all raid titles should require a flawless run its meant to be mastering a raid and nothing is a bigger demonstration of mastering it than a flawless run
@@user-ns3vs3bp3e is it not required? I thought you needed to do it flawless to get the shader which is one of the requirements for the badge?
Harbinger stays on, so does my crimson echoes emblem. Getting both of these was pretty fun and challenging to me.
As of this season, I think Conqueror should move up to S tier because of the GM's we were given.
Don’t we have Hallowed Lair, Corrupted AND Glassway???
@@MrTJCM6 Hollowed Lair, The Corrupted, Proving Grounds, Devils Lair, Exodus Crash, and Lake of Shadows.
@@Sieizo only devil's lair and lake of shadows are not too hard
This season is not harder than any other. The only hard one is Corrupted lol, theres always 1 hard NF per season except for S13.
@@vex6213 yeah fair enough. I don’t know why I thought proving grounds was in this season alongside corrupted, I would’ve thrown hands with bungle for that 😂
My favourite title is still Shadow because that was my favourite season, I loved the raid, and the lore implications of being a shadow is pretty cool I guess.
I have a pretty equal amount of respect for all the titles that require you to go out of your way to achieve it. I got a bunch of the titles mostly just because I participated in the season, but I much prefer using ones like reckoner, where I actually had to put work in. Also an Iron Lord title would be cool to add alongside the iron banner rework
Shadow gang. In terms of the title I had the most fun getting, Harbinger takes the top. Doing the master nightmare hunt speed runs were very fun and fulfilling.
I still haven’t done it, but looking forward to knocking it out
My favorite part of a shadow title was doing opening encounter of crown every time you wipe it
Back in the shadowkeep meta with no seasonal mods of the likes of breach and clear and particle deconstruction, harbinger was HARD.
@@imagineabuild yeah you had craft your builds and have team coord on point
I hated soloing the pit
As a person who has obtained them all, Fatebreaker is the title that gave me the most grief but also has felt the most rewarding.
me who has 40 looted and no vex, literally the only thing holding me back.
@@EntsForest good friend of mine with 56 just got his yesterday. Keep at it 👍
My team ran a flawless Last Wish on our first try without breaking much of a sweat even with the Guitar error looming over our heads at the time.
Master VoG challenges are harder hands down. Your community is voting on things they haven't even attempted.
finally someone else gets it
I have fatebreaker, it and rivensbane would be tied except the gatekeeper triumph is something for sure
I feel like a lot more people will get fatebreaker by the end of this season simply because its so damn long so they'll have enough level to somewhat easily do the master challenges
I agree. Rivensbane was mostly RNG because of the Glittering Key and avoiding the Guitar error. Fatebreaker and Enlightened really tested my skills
Master VoG isn't hard either lol
I'm personally a Harbinger person. Tends to be the one I shift to if I don't use a gilded title.
As a reckoner, i’m honored to let others know how much I hate myself
I really think people are undermining the struggle wayfarer had to go through. Sure a lot of the challenges are easy, but 3 badges purely related to RNG, taking about 40 complete runs of EP on Mars, the amount of wells I had to do, and the weekly waits to get everything else. This was easily one of the most time consuming titles despite it not really being "hard" to obtain, the difficulty was going through your own sanity to collect all of these items. Def deserves a much higher spot on the list imo.
It would be cool to see a survey of people who don’t play destiny, and their opinions on what titles are the coolest
Removing flawless requirements from raid titles was a big mistake imo, I'm glad they at least kept them on the existing ones. Rivensbane is one of the biggest flex ingame and I hope it stays that way.
Facts
Idk I kinda like not having to be perfect at everything from for the title,but I could see why you think that .
i think of titles as a way of showing you have an activity mastered, which is why i love shadow and rivensbane so much. imo flawless raids (and stuff like heroic menagerie) are the ultimate test of if you really are good at a raid or not
I’m still annoyed they removed the flawless requirement from enlightened. Imo all raids titles should require a flawless run the whole point of the title is you’ve mastered the raid going flawless is the ultimate test of that.
Personally I would like a title called something like “Flawless Raider” (the d1 achievement for a flawless raid) which you get for doing every raid currently available flawlessly, when a new raid is added you lose the title until you’ve done it then get the ability to select it again.
Fully agree here. I still do them all for the shaders though!
Fully disagree sometimes ppl die with no fault of their own just cuzz the raid decided to kill u going flawless in a raid doesn't mean u mastered shit. It means u were lucky a bug or some dumb shit didn't kill you.
Would be nice if they at least required a flawless run and 5-10 carries for the gild each season
@@809Bman I mean the tiny percentage of deaths due to bullshit compared to the massive amount of deaths due to fuck ups or people over estimating their ability and losing a fight I’d say flawless does prove a decent amount of skill. Most “oh the game just killed me” is somebody dying to architects because they let themselves be stomped by a wyvern or something and want to blame the game rather than their positioning being shit
@@imagineabuild the player base for raiding isn't high enough to sustain the 5-10 carry requirement.
There's literally no other video game where I watch videos of someone spewing statistics about that game to me that I actually enjoy
Unbroken and Flawless inspire dread. Reckoner inspires your Fight/Flight response.
I only have the easiest ones: Dredgen, Deadeye and Wayfarer. Currently workin on Cursebreaker
Got Deadeye yesterday. Now have that and Wayfarer 😂 I'm not really an endgame player but I appreciate bungie for putting in the low skill titles for us casuals
I think my definition of casual is definitely not someone who would put in the time to earn any of these titles lmao
As a proud Harbinger. I'm proud. Even having fatebreaker I still wear harbinger.
Harbinger because it’s cool and rare to see but also proves you’re very competent at solo to 3 man activities.
Splintered has such a low percentage because of that damn triumph to kill Brigs during the public event WHILE IN A FIRETEAM
I still like my Wayfarer because it was the only one I could or really wanted to get back in the day as a casual solo player.
As a Reckoner since season of the Drifter (where the extreme pain was at its peak. Also the season it came out lol), it almost never comes off my character. I do sometimes switch to enlightened and shadow just to let people know; “yes, I sometimes raid”. But other than that, Reckoner stays on.
Descendant will always be an S tier for me. Mostly bc i overcame the struggle of keeping my sanity when having to do 90 clears, 72 looted, before I got Eyes.
Shadow was something I worked EXTREMELY hard to get and I’m proud of it. I’ll probably never take it off. Heroic menagerie was almost impossible to flawless. I’m glad it’s a pretty exclusive deal for those who had to go through that bullshit 😂
Blacksmith for me with 2 of my clan members.
shadow is right up there with fatebreaker for me. those heroic menageries were no joke, and flawless crown took me about 2 days to do
Shadow was a testament of faith and sheer persistence you're mental state has to be at full capacity to last so much time running with teams that lacked patience and competence 💀
@@Baishe_ 100%
This is purely anecdotal so it doesn't really hold much weight, but a bunch of my friends picked up destiny around the time vog dropped this year. After getting their light up, I ran every raid with them and just for the laughs of it, my clan decided to try a Petra's run last wish with one of them. We ended up clearing it on our first try and what ended up being our new light's second last wish clear.
On the other hand, master vog nearly broke us.
I think flawless raid runs are just more anxious, but I believe that with enough repetition, muscle memory, determination (and maybe a little luck) you will eventually get it done. It's something that has the potential to be easy after enough practice. Master vog will always be challenging because it's not the mechanics that make it hard, but the sheer damage output of the enemies and that's never going to go away.
Still think without a doubt Savior is the coolest sounding title, how good was that season and how difficult were seasonal titles back then? Getting Komodo alone was harder than all 4 beyond light seasonal titles
Arbalest had a fun couple weeks in Crucible before all the hype for that LFR died down. It was a fun season :)
saviour was one of the first i got and i'm a bad player so idk if i'd call that difficult. arbalest made komodo a cakewalk
i also don't have any of the beyond light seasonal titles except splicer. i'm one off chosen but no one wants to take me through presage to find the things
@@dankerbell you can solo presage. Just find a video that shows you collectibles
@@dankerbell I just remember hating every minute of crucible hearing that stupid arbalest noise. I was really just highlighting how now you can just login on reset day for 2hrs the entire season and still be able to pick up the title. Not to mention deadeye+gild handout, I’m just upset deadeye came before flawless+solo all master lost sectors title. Btw datto has vid on glycon clues, esoterik should also have the timestamped full guide.
I’ll never take off Flawless. I almost cried the day I got my flawed confidence passage playing freelance trials and finally got that beautiful seal.
Reckoner broke me, my sainty has left
Descendant was my first tile, would’ve happily went flawless for it too but not super upset I didn’t have to, working long hours makes it hard to find time to grind out all those challenges cid VoG even though I want to
I’m sad because all I needed for Shadow was to slot more runes into my Chalice and get the sparrow. Really hope it comes back with rotations so I can snag it really quick. 😭
SAAAAAAAME. I got everything else quickly enough(and enjoyed it! a lot!) but doing all the runes after they fixed the Chalice bug was just something I never got around to doing. I still had like a third of the way to go. It doesn't matter that much to me bc never would've gotten the other Forsaken Seasonal titles, Blacksmith is even more grindy and Reckoner is death incarnate. Rivensbane never getting taken off though, so *shrug*
You did ALL of the flawless runs, and didn’t get the title because of a 10 second action?
You’re telling me you did those god damn HEROIC menagerie flawless and the crown flawless without getting cursed AND you got every weapon and armor including tarabah plus every single menagerie challenge and you missed it because of RUNES?
@@Pokemonmaster32925 That’s what I was saying… I don’t wanna be a negative Nancy, but that’s reeeeeeeeeeeally hard to believe. Most people do those easy little things first.
@@Pokemonmaster32925 Yes, the runes slotted and the sparrow for collection with it and I just didn’t do it. I got burned out because it was a dry period in the game.
Getting a petras run seems impossible rn with the addition of oracles to LW. Everytime we hear one somebody sees the desktop!
yup, the way to solve it is by taking off your overloads
i'm confused with this statement. do they crash to desktop when they hear an oracle and how exactly do they crash?
@@MikeAndros0 you get error coded if you have overloads on near the beginning of LW. It’s not directly correlated with oracles but it usually happens around the time the Oracle chimes
@@clayless8701 very strange bug
@@MikeAndros0 We usually load in first oracle goes off and boom someone goes to desktop. Happens every time i do the raid to at least, 1-2 group members before Kalli, and right after seeing the bridge for the bridge to shuro chi i believe. We all do mostly endgame content or pvp most days, so it can be a champion mod causing it as stated :)
My first ever seal was Warden, given how I haven’t played Destiny 2 until season 9?
I’m still super proud of Warden and will hopefully go for other titles!
I can’t get warden simply because I don’t have 2 other friends who have Hawkmoon, only 1 friend of mine has hawkmoon and the third simply doesn’t want to grind for it
@@the_incredibleskrub lfg? LMAO
Warden was the first I got and I don't think it's ever coming off. Huge fan of Dragon Age Origins so "The Grey Wardens" came to mind.
I like keeping my legacy Wayfarer title equipped just because it shows I like exploring and travelling :P
I haven't taken Rivensbane off for more than a few minutes since I got it a few months ago. By far the coolest title, but Fatebreaker commands respect.
Since you asked about Conqueror, I finally got it last season, but I will not be gilding it because I did not appreciate when it asked to re-complete the Glassway GM I just did to get the seal in the first place. I understand that certain triumphs unlock after gilding is available, but the Weekly Challenges have been flashing in-game for weeks, proving that some triumphs are live in the game, even before they are visible to the player. Plus I've had my fill after 6 different GMs (9 total) thank you very much. As for Gilded Deadeye, finally gilded it last week. Only because I was working on the triumphs before they were put into a seal. As you said, expecting the percentage of that to skyrocket.
I first started doing GMs last season and once I saw I had most of the requirements done for Conqueror, I figured I'd go for it. I'm never taking Conqueror off and I never want to zone into glassway again.
not finishing blacksmith will forever be my greatest regret, I was 1 away from getting it and I kept forgetting about it until it got vaulted
It makes me happy how i grinded my ass off for reckoner and i sleep well knowing no one can get it anymore
I was happy enough when I got Splicer a week ago, I like the name and it was my first titled. I got back into the game about a month and a half ago haven’t played since Forsaken launched. I’m close to Dredgen, but the 75 motes without losing any is harder now that there’s only 1 round in each Gambit match.
I place Fatebreaker above flawless for this reason: you can reasonably get carried to the flawless title if you have good carries. You CANNOT get carried to fatebreaker no matter how good your team is. I’ve done master VoG with players above light for the raid who die more than I was 10 levels under. If you yourself are not good at the game/raids and/or don’t have to time to put into the game to be a minimum 15 under, you will not complete master vog. It requires all 6 players to be proper light AND skill level for the raid. And, literally no person I know is even dumb enough to CONSIDER carrying someone to fatebreaker. And let’s not talk about the RNG needed.
As a Flawless guardian I agree with you good sir. People think that PvE is easy mode until you tell them to try to get Raid titles and Conqueror. Some of my Flawless/Unbroken friends wanted to try out Conquest Mode VoG, they felt very confident and man, it didn’t end up well, they wanted to cry so hard lmfaoooo.
u dont need to do the hardest gm for conqueror, u can just wait for next season since Conqueror is only needs 6 unique gm and it transfers across seasons, so it's actually one of the easiest seals
It’s not one of the easiest seals lol. You still have to do the GMs
@@ShervierJ It's easy af xD
Is easy if you wait like 3 or 4 seasons by doing the easiest GMs but do it on 1 season only I dare you, you’ll cry.
@@dropdead9948 i did with proving grounds it's not even that bad
@@erroroflife187 not bad at all
I feel like Conqueror gilding has to be high. Gilding this season is going to be crazy.
depends on the season, anyone who does it this season deserves d1y1 gjallarhorn
@@dankerbell Lol, agreed. Last season was easy outside of Glassway. We beat Hallowed Lair last night, but Corrupted will be tough. It took us a lot of tries last time Corrupted was a GM.
Theres 1 hard strike. Its no harder than any other season.
@@vex6213 Nah, Corrupted is really hard, but Exodus and Hallowed are tough, too. Even Proving Grounds is decently difficult, though very doable.
Nah, GMs this season aren’t bad at all. Literally, just get better at playing the game and pay attention to details in nightfalls
I don't care if the community doesn't like the MM titles for cool factor, I'm not taking MMXX off. It was the first title I actually tried to get, and led to my first raid clears in D2 (having not raided since D1)
Didn't play when you could get reckoner, but I do guild my flawless title each season now 👍nice to see they're so high on the list
Feels to good to have every seal done. But only Reckoners matter :-)
Keep up the grind man I love your videos 💯
Coolest for me were Harbinger, Shadow, Undying. Dredgen would be a cool title if it was harder to get tbh. Lore wise Dredgens are cool, but the title reduces that factor 😂
I think it makes sense lore wise since Drifter wanted to piss off the Dredgens of Yor by handing out the title to everyone lol.
The fact that people feel like flawless last wish is harder than master vog surprises me
Once I did the petras run I haven't taken rivensbane off. Favorite title
Shadow, blacksmith and reckoner were by far my favorite seals to complete just cause of the difficulty...
As a solo player the season titles have been great as most of the time it's not a stretch. The old seasonal titles, prior to beyond light, still had me running into an occasional road block.
I primary play solo as well and one of my favorite things was getting the cursebreaker title. Pretty much all of it can be done solo, except for/the hardest part being getting the eggs post morgeth in LW. I begged a friend and we buckled down and we 3 manned it (had to call in one of his friends for extra dps). But because of that I'll never take cursebreaker off.
@@samvakarian I did it all solo until that egg behind morgeth but I used the bdouble blade finisher to glitch through the wall and grab it aha
@@scalychannel5897 I remember you used to be able to oob over the barrier w middle tree gunslinger and that was fixed. Didn't know there was another way, when was that figured out?
We need another update
splinter is absolutely sick sounding
Argue that wayfarer/ cursebreaker was harder then seasonal titles due to MASSIVE amounts of RNG in some cases requiring lots of grinding and huge reset lockouts. If I am not mistaken, most seasonal titles can be completed all at once at the end of the season (granted, some NON title seasonal triumphs are tied to crucible rotations). Cursebreaker for example, if I am remembering correctly, is tied to the ascendant challenges with Eggs and Ahamkara bones being impossible to get unless you are on that week rotation.
I ran that nightfall with the witch on Mars like a 100 times before the rocket dropped for me
@@scalychannel5897 Exactly 💯 my point.
I maintain that Fatebreaker is the hardest title. Very few will ever even be close to skilled enough to beat a master mode VoG, and doing so with challenges REPEATEDLY is largely untenable, whereas one flawless Last Wish isn’t that bad at all, because the raid is legitimately extremely easy.
the issue with Fatebreaker Shadow Reckoner and Rivensbane is the time commitment you had to find sole people to want to run it with you which could take up to weeks or a month because the mental fortitude of having to attempt it over and over again is extremely pain wrenching knowing that you'll get it done in the slimmest way especially when Shadow had the flawless wipe bug that interfered with the completion it was merely impossible
Bruh I have Fatebreaker and anyone can get this title if they have a team that knows the encounters and challenges. Not that bad.
I got Reckoner and had fun doing it.
Impossible
I still think Dredgen is one of the coolest, just from all the lore from yor and thorn and stuff. I think the title is relatively easy to get, but gilding it is insanely hard. Think about it, most of the stuff is easy, but 50 wins… because the game is so full of team stacks and your win rate is often lower than 50%, it’s gonna take a while. Plus, you have to suffer through gambit, the ULTIMATE test of endurance and perseverance. I’ve gilded my title 3 times now, it’s been a horrible grind but honestly I’m really proud because it’s very much a flex.
opinion wrong
i agree with Datto. When you see Reckoner, you wanna ask the guy, "do you know the definition of insanity?"
if i see someone wearing a reckoner title, i salute them for being brave enough to endure that much reckoning and gambit prime
They called me a madman, but I got Reckoner solo.
I dont really care about rarity for titles I choose titles that more fit my characters in my head like dredgen or wayfarer for hunter, splicer or chronicler for warlock and unbroken for titan
Season 10 flawless seal is probably still my crowning gaming achievement 💀 such a fun season
Because there is so little to do for the Flawless title, I honestly don’t think its all that difficult to get. Unbroken is definitely harder than most and is probably the hardest due tot he time sink required along with the additional requirements. For me, rivensbane title is the hardest to acquire, but is honestly kinda lackluster.
Most of the challenge of master vog is straight up LEVELING up to that absurd point
Hardest thing about Harbinger is easily the ghost shell from the altars event(still the only thing missing for me)
Its the only thing Im missing and I have no idea how to get it
@@CapCody you get it from finishing altars of sorrow, the drop rate is insanely low tho…it’s the only thing I’m missing for Harbinger but at this point I don’t think I can get it simply because nobody does altars of sorrow
ill run altars with you guys. i hate that i dont have it
@@nullexile what you play on?
it's a shame because harbinger is easily the coolest title for me
i have a problem with the community cool tier list. I personally think lower-difficulty titles like dredgen, warden, even deadeye are ranked super low, even though as words themselves, they could be considered pretty cool
I like Forerunner, at Arrivals it was my first title and I was just so happy to have that. It might be seasonal but hot damn it sounds nice.
Was just googling this the other day. Very helpful!!!!!!
Even with how hard a flawless riven is. I still think its not above all the stuff you do in master. But thats just me.
I think Chronicler is my favorite old title you cant get anymore. I remember the tangled shore lore pages being annoying
The titles for season of the Undying and Dawn should be higher than the others because it required you to earn the seasonal weapons unlike the ones after.
Cool, Reckoner is still neat! Glad I got it.
See you folks next year when Datto surprises himself with another one of these videos.
Datto does Tier Lists
I like that im only missing every single legendary lost sector triumph for almighty but nothing else
I started playing in arrivals, decided to go for blacksmith in the last 6 weeks before it became unobtainable, did flawless sotp on the last day with an lfg and did all 100 frames in 4 days (300 Forges).
Not to toot my fireteams horn but our proudest achievement is that our Flawless Scourge run is also our fastest at 17 mins 32s. I’m so mad that stat tracker is gone from the emblem but I still wear my Blacksmith title with pride.
I like my guilded deadeye title and forerunner, I don't care what people think.. however, due to how people think about dredgen, I've had to remove it.
Never relinquish your title just because how someone else views it.. You earned it no matter how easy or how difficult it really was
@@jharris839 i did it originally before they made it easier.
Flawless last wish is real easy if you aren't ass at jumping as you can just cheese it even easier than before stasis existed
I like that even during the very short amount of time crucible gameplay is shown it’s still on cauldron
The alpha title will always be reckoner.
Any Reckoners out there that still collect titles but don’t equip any of them because Reckoner is the title to let people know that you have become a husk of your former self?