Bro thank you so much for this content. I have been searching for a content creator that focuses on combat mechanics and flashes of abilities. Dude literally every game that you mentioned was already on my wishlist..lol This is so refreshing listening to you. You seem like a chill dude that loves combat. Most other creators mainly focus on lore and voiceovers with little interest in action combat mechanics. Thank you again. Sub earned!!!
Thank u so much for the kind words and that makes my day because combat mechanics are what I’m most passionate for! Love that u enjoy the same. I’m going to give Grandblue Relink another shot, and I love Strangers of paradise and Scarlet nexus and will get to Trials of Mana soon as well!
Great! I enjoyed Granblue Relink but Tales of Arise pulled me away..lol Trails of Mana has a lot of build-craft potential. I advised playing on max difficulty. @@SweisSenpai
Ys VIII and SO6 def had a lot of fun factor for me. The battles could be the easiest in the world or the hardest, it didn't matter, they were just a joy to play. I also highly praise Octopath 2, Marvel's Midnight Suns, and BG3. Fun video, friendo, I enjoyed watching.
If it’s always a joy to play any battle u know it’s good! Thanks for watching bro. I wanted to do a very similar video to this but “video games” with 10/10 gameplay and go into some stuff like Ultimate alliance
Good picks, Sweis! I can highly agree with Persona 5: Royal and Tales of Xillia 2! Persona 5: Royal is genuinely a super engaging turn based system, despite not being entirely deep like you said. But I love the synergy you can sync up with the party, even if the game isn't super duper hard. Tales of Xillia 2 is arguably the Tales LMBS system at it's peak before trying new stuff with Zestiria and onwards. Xillia 2 did nerf the likes of Jude and Leia a bit, but they're still insanely fun to play! ESPECIALLY Gaius! Oh man! He's my main in Xillia 2 and my 2nd fav to play in the entire series. Ludger as a new addition absolutely gets ALOT of shiny new toys to play with. His skill ceiling is insanely high! Chromatus Form is very OP, but it gets a bit of gameplay narrative as you fight Victor who also has it! And it's easily one of the tougher bosses in the game's main story. Love it! My picks for this topic of list would be.. Real Time Action: -Tales of Destiny DC -Tales of Vesperia -Tales of Hearts R -Tales of Xillia 2 Turn Based: -Persona 5: Royal -Epic Battle Fantasy 5 -Suikoden 2 I absolutely still adore the fast paced combat in Destiny DC. It's incredible how fast paced a 2D RPG can be, with those beautiful sprites too! I love the focus of aerial prowess in the game. And with every party member having an assigned gimmick/style, there's a playstyle for everyone! Epic Battle Fantasy is a series of games that was never crazy gimmicky or even unique in it's combat. EBF3-4 are very much old school SNES vibes. But I love what EBF5 did to switch it up! Rather than Mana/Magic, moves in EBF5 are based on round timers instead. Making every move and party member insanely crucial for long endurances, making use of all of them. Combined with the added system of capturing EVERY SINGLE generic enemy and boss encounters as summons, much like titles of SMT, Persona or Pokémon? It's fun for how simple it is. Suikoden 2 is by no means a complicated combat game. None of the Suikoden games are. They are quite vanilla, basic and not really truly crazy in any of them. But what they lack in surface complexity, they make up in flow! Suikoden 2's combat is so fine to still witness due to it's unique sprites, huge variety of characters, runes and unique duo/triple attacks. It's like if you took the 'Showtime' moves from P5: Royal and spread them across 60-100+ playable characters. Then there's just the little things that make Suikoden 2's combat so enjoyable. Instead of everybody waiting their turn one-by-one, your 6-man party all jump, shoot, cast and slash around at the same-ish time. Combined with the camera angle always moving and panning, it keeps the battles fresh and dynamic!
Thanks for watching and commenting bro! Yeah when I think of which Tales has the most refined combat in what it set out to do I think of Xillia 2. I really wanted to put Hearts as well lol. Glad u got as much fun from Royal as I did and the other ones u mentioned like Destiny DC and Suikoden are up next soon on my list to play :)
I definitely feel that turn-based combat often gets way overlooked, so I'd like to shout out a couple of my favorites: Meagan X Command Mission (it's like FFX, but it's faster, more tightly constructed, and better balanced in my opinion; plus a few extra mechanics like the sub-weapon system that add some real great tactical customization to load outs/builds) and Golden Sun (very simple and standard in a lot of ways, but with a crazy amount of tactical depth through the combination of the Djinn system, the splash damage system, and the whole-team-at-once turns; also, it's just way faster than most so there's a lot less waiting; no other turn-based system has grinding random battles remain as engaging for as long as Golden Sun). Also, I would like to mention my favorite tactics-game battle system: Into the Breach, which is one of the best ever examples of the elegance of small numbers and simple mechanics that interact in meaningful ways. It's worth noting that all three systems are especially good at utilizing the strategic power of multiple party members together, which is the one thing that single-player action systems just flat out can't do as well as turn-based (and why turn-based combat will always have a place in games).
I actually play it from time to time and it’s pretty good! For some reason I don’t like the perfect dodge very much, just feels a little off sometimes and the bosses aren’t that crazy but each character plays fantastic
@@SweisSenpai Yh i love the uniqueness of every single character . They are all so detailed in their own way . I like the combat a lot it's very refreshing in the gacha space. I mean they did also make PGR before that so the combat was expected to be pretty good .
None of these are in a particular order! While 3 is my fav combat system all of these I just believe to be great! Not necessarily better than one another
I never really though about it, but yeah, nier automata is by far my fave combat system done by platinum. The way they integrate the jrpg elements with the action combat they're known for feels so good.
It really is! U don’t realize sometimes how well made something is until u realize how many times you have fun going back to it. Thanks for watching Shreddy
Hey SweisSenpai, I have a few games that may scratch that combat itch: Ni no Kuni 2, FF Stranger of Paradise, Trails of Mana, Scarlet Nexus, Immortals fenyx rising, and Granblue Fantasy Relink. Let me know your thoughts :)
My top ten as of now :) granted, I've played like none of the games on your list, so take this with a grain of salt. Glad I at least played Xillia 2! 10. Lost Odyssey 9. Final Fantasy XIII (and XIII-2) 8. Ni No Kuni II: Revenant Kingdom 7. Octopath Traveler II 6. Eternal Sonata 5. Blue Dragon 4. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor 3. Chained Echoes 2. Tales of Xillia 2 1. Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age
Ni No Kuni II is often the top recommendation to people who are looking for combat like Kingdom Hearts’ combat, so if you liked it you should def give KH2 a go
Good combat never matters if it doesnt have a good enemies to begin with. I consider Monster Hunter series having a good combat. Ys Oath in Felghana is good too.
Love KH2 but KH3 was too floaty for me. I liked actually dodging and parrying - but Sora is out here flipping around the screen like Simone Biles 😂😂 it was fun to watch but not fun to really play.
@@SweisSenpaibecause I think DQ 11 was probably one of the more boring games for me despite animation being fun to watch and idk man I am very bitter about nier automata ever since I was forced to play 9S.
No way S06 is on here but Tales of Berseria isn't. S06 was super lacking in moves and just lacked some things during combat while Berseria is the opposite. Can't agree with this video unfortunately.
@@therenegadegamer7422 Not at all. Berseria's combat is definitely the best combat in the Tales series. It's the fastest most freeing combat I've played in a Tales game, and I've almost played them all now.
KH has always had terrible combat lol, they should have chose either turn based or hack n slash, because mixing them like in KH didnt work. The way you have to move in KH while also having to use spells is really janky and destroys the flow of combat. Also Nier isnt an rpg
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*starts with KH2 footage* Alright, I can trust this video
Heck yea 😎
Haven’t played everything on this list but it’s always great to see YS 8 praise 🔥 great video as always Sweis!
Ys is always goated. Thanks for watching my dude
Good picks! KH2s gameplay is so addicting for me
Thank u :) always love KH2
Bro thank you so much for this content. I have been searching for a content creator that focuses on combat mechanics and flashes of abilities. Dude literally every game that you mentioned was already on my wishlist..lol This is so refreshing listening to you. You seem like a chill dude that loves combat. Most other creators mainly focus on lore and voiceovers with little interest in action combat mechanics. Thank you again. Sub earned!!!
Thank u so much for the kind words and that makes my day because combat mechanics are what I’m most passionate for! Love that u enjoy the same. I’m going to give Grandblue Relink another shot, and I love Strangers of paradise and Scarlet nexus and will get to Trials of Mana soon as well!
Great! I enjoyed Granblue Relink but Tales of Arise pulled me away..lol Trails of Mana has a lot of build-craft potential. I advised playing on max difficulty. @@SweisSenpai
Haven't played every game on this list but the ones I have I'd agree are all really good combat systems. Good vid sweis 👍
Thanks my dude :)
Happy to see something like SO6 get sone love! Surprised you didn’t give a shoutout to something like tokyo Xanadu? Great video either way
Love Xanadu but I would not consider its combat system a 10/10 in design. More so a game I think is underrated. Thanks so much Crim :)
@@SweisSenpai ayyy no problem sweis, it was an interesting video idea, may steal it for myself lol
Ys VIII and SO6 def had a lot of fun factor for me. The battles could be the easiest in the world or the hardest, it didn't matter, they were just a joy to play.
I also highly praise Octopath 2, Marvel's Midnight Suns, and BG3.
Fun video, friendo, I enjoyed watching.
If it’s always a joy to play any battle u know it’s good! Thanks for watching bro. I wanted to do a very similar video to this but “video games” with 10/10 gameplay and go into some stuff like Ultimate alliance
Tales of arise is my favorite combat in action jrpg. Turn based jrpg combat persona games and trails games .
Great choices!
Good picks, Sweis! I can highly agree with Persona 5: Royal and Tales of Xillia 2!
Persona 5: Royal is genuinely a super engaging turn based system, despite not being entirely deep like you said.
But I love the synergy you can sync up with the party, even if the game isn't super duper hard.
Tales of Xillia 2 is arguably the Tales LMBS system at it's peak before trying new stuff with Zestiria and onwards.
Xillia 2 did nerf the likes of Jude and Leia a bit, but they're still insanely fun to play! ESPECIALLY Gaius! Oh man! He's my main in Xillia 2 and my 2nd fav to play in the entire series.
Ludger as a new addition absolutely gets ALOT of shiny new toys to play with. His skill ceiling is insanely high!
Chromatus Form is very OP, but it gets a bit of gameplay narrative as you fight Victor who also has it! And it's easily one of the tougher bosses in the game's main story. Love it!
My picks for this topic of list would be..
Real Time Action:
-Tales of Destiny DC
-Tales of Vesperia
-Tales of Hearts R
-Tales of Xillia 2
Turn Based:
-Persona 5: Royal
-Epic Battle Fantasy 5
-Suikoden 2
I absolutely still adore the fast paced combat in Destiny DC. It's incredible how fast paced a 2D RPG can be, with those beautiful sprites too!
I love the focus of aerial prowess in the game. And with every party member having an assigned gimmick/style, there's a playstyle for everyone!
Epic Battle Fantasy is a series of games that was never crazy gimmicky or even unique in it's combat. EBF3-4 are very much old school SNES vibes. But I love what EBF5 did to switch it up!
Rather than Mana/Magic, moves in EBF5 are based on round timers instead. Making every move and party member insanely crucial for long endurances, making use of all of them.
Combined with the added system of capturing EVERY SINGLE generic enemy and boss encounters as summons, much like titles of SMT, Persona or Pokémon? It's fun for how simple it is.
Suikoden 2 is by no means a complicated combat game. None of the Suikoden games are. They are quite vanilla, basic and not really truly crazy in any of them.
But what they lack in surface complexity, they make up in flow! Suikoden 2's combat is so fine to still witness due to it's unique sprites, huge variety of characters, runes and unique duo/triple attacks. It's like if you took the 'Showtime' moves from P5: Royal and spread them across 60-100+ playable characters.
Then there's just the little things that make Suikoden 2's combat so enjoyable. Instead of everybody waiting their turn one-by-one, your 6-man party all jump, shoot, cast and slash around at the same-ish time. Combined with the camera angle always moving and panning, it keeps the battles fresh and dynamic!
Thanks for watching and commenting bro! Yeah when I think of which Tales has the most refined combat in what it set out to do I think of Xillia 2. I really wanted to put Hearts as well lol. Glad u got as much fun from Royal as I did and the other ones u mentioned like Destiny DC and Suikoden are up next soon on my list to play :)
“I’d say this video is a 10 out of 10” - every Kenny that after performing a successful or fast battle from Star Ocean😊
LOL YES!! Wanted to put SO2 here too 🤣 thanks for watching my dude
P5 is such a good combat system
I definitely feel that turn-based combat often gets way overlooked, so I'd like to shout out a couple of my favorites: Meagan X Command Mission (it's like FFX, but it's faster, more tightly constructed, and better balanced in my opinion; plus a few extra mechanics like the sub-weapon system that add some real great tactical customization to load outs/builds) and Golden Sun (very simple and standard in a lot of ways, but with a crazy amount of tactical depth through the combination of the Djinn system, the splash damage system, and the whole-team-at-once turns; also, it's just way faster than most so there's a lot less waiting; no other turn-based system has grinding random battles remain as engaging for as long as Golden Sun).
Also, I would like to mention my favorite tactics-game battle system: Into the Breach, which is one of the best ever examples of the elegance of small numbers and simple mechanics that interact in meaningful ways.
It's worth noting that all three systems are especially good at utilizing the strategic power of multiple party members together, which is the one thing that single-player action systems just flat out can't do as well as turn-based (and why turn-based combat will always have a place in games).
What do you think of wuthering waves combat ? I don't think it's close to 10/10 but i like it it's very good.
I actually play it from time to time and it’s pretty good! For some reason I don’t like the perfect dodge very much, just feels a little off sometimes and the bosses aren’t that crazy but each character plays fantastic
@@SweisSenpai U must be a monster if u say wuthering bosses aren't crazy . Unless u didn't yet unlock the hardest holograms ?
@@SweisSenpai Yh i love the uniqueness of every single character . They are all so detailed in their own way . I like the combat a lot it's very refreshing in the gacha space.
I mean they did also make PGR before that so the combat was expected to be pretty good .
Man I was so hurt when you put kh2 at 9, but then I saw that number one slot and said, imma let it slide😂
None of these are in a particular order! While 3 is my fav combat system all of these I just believe to be great! Not necessarily better than one another
Nice pics. I especially agree with KH2 and Fire Emblem Engage. Have you tried FFVII Rebirth?
Yes and if I made this list later it would have been on here! Lol it is such an amazing combat system
@@SweisSenpai , nice. I completely agree. 🙌🏽
Still got a lot more to play too excited to dive back in! Thanks for watching my vid :)
Fantastic list as expected
Thank u my dude 💙
I never really though about it, but yeah, nier automata is by far my fave combat system done by platinum. The way they integrate the jrpg elements with the action combat they're known for feels so good.
It really is! U don’t realize sometimes how well made something is until u realize how many times you have fun going back to it. Thanks for watching Shreddy
@@SweisSenpai it's a good thing it's fun to come back to as well, given how many endings there are lol
Very interesting. I'll be trying Lies of P. For me, Xenoblade 3's combat is one of my fav.
Xenoblade 3 is SO GOOD! Good taste. I hope u enjoy Lies of P, it’s one of my favorite games now! Be prepared it’s tough 👀
Hey SweisSenpai, I have a few games that may scratch that combat itch: Ni no Kuni 2, FF Stranger of Paradise, Trails of Mana, Scarlet Nexus, Immortals fenyx rising, and Granblue Fantasy Relink. Let me know your thoughts :)
personally i like ff7rebirth combat even tho this vid released 3 days after the release
U could deff put that on here. Maybe a part 2 👀
@@SweisSenpai yep.....
My top ten as of now :) granted, I've played like none of the games on your list, so take this with a grain of salt. Glad I at least played Xillia 2!
10. Lost Odyssey
9. Final Fantasy XIII (and XIII-2)
8. Ni No Kuni II: Revenant Kingdom
7. Octopath Traveler II
6. Eternal Sonata
5. Blue Dragon
4. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor
3. Chained Echoes
2. Tales of Xillia 2
1. Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age
Ni No Kuni II is often the top recommendation to people who are looking for combat like Kingdom Hearts’ combat, so if you liked it you should def give KH2 a go
Xillia 2 was peak tales combat hope it goes back in that direction after arise
Well that's it, I'm playing KH 2 again.
It’s so nice seeing KH2 fans cuz we all just want to re play it every time we see it! Thanks for watching :)
Nevermind. I see that you have already done a review on Granblue Relink...lol😁
Going to try it again tho!
Good combat never matters if it doesnt have a good enemies to begin with. I consider Monster Hunter series having a good combat. Ys Oath in Felghana is good too.
LOVE Monster Hunter :) will deff make more lists like this
Love KH2 but KH3 was too floaty for me. I liked actually dodging and parrying - but Sora is out here flipping around the screen like Simone Biles 😂😂 it was fun to watch but not fun to really play.
Lies of P 💟🌌☮️
Game means a lot to me :)
those are mostly rpg's with little freedom to leave the main story for exploration. not for me.
This is a video highlighting combat systems, I am not prioritizing the story lol
Seeing Nier and DQ here confuses me. Great list tho
Why is that MONDA
@@SweisSenpaibecause I think DQ 11 was probably one of the more boring games for me despite animation being fun to watch and idk man I am very bitter about nier automata ever since I was forced to play 9S.
No way S06 is on here but Tales of Berseria isn't. S06 was super lacking in moves and just lacked some things during combat while Berseria is the opposite. Can't agree with this video unfortunately.
Tales Of Xillia 2 has way better combat Berseria feels pretty shallow
@@therenegadegamer7422 Not at all. Berseria's combat is definitely the best combat in the Tales series. It's the fastest most freeing combat I've played in a Tales game, and I've almost played them all now.
KH has always had terrible combat lol, they should have chose either turn based or hack n slash, because mixing them like in KH didnt work. The way you have to move in KH while also having to use spells is really janky and destroys the flow of combat.
Also Nier isnt an rpg
My good sir did u know u could shortcut magic so u don’t have the menu? Lol
Skill issues. Imagine this guy complaining about Tales combat.