Belfast Trouble
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- The Riots in Belfast after the Henry Joy McCracken Hate Parade were caused by a combination of things.
At NO TIME were Loyalist Paramilitaries responsible for the violence.
If they were responsible for anything, it was for simply not trying to stop it.
Why should they try to stop it though & then take the brunt of the PUL communities' frustration?
Each year Loyalists have helped calm down situations at so called peace lines. They have put themselves at Ardoyne at every occasion when asked to do so, saving millions on the policing bill while doing so too no doubt. Every year the anger within the PUL community has grown because of the restrictions implemented by the Republican Parades Commission. That anger has now grown towards some Loyalists for trying to help the situation around the Parades.
Why do people get Frustrated?
Because they have had No Truth, No Justice or No Accountability.
We have seen hundreds of millions spent on Inquiries. Bloody Sunday, Pat Finucane, Rosemary Nelson, and Robert Hamill etc. Then there is the call for inquiries into Newlodge, Ballymurphy, McGurks, & no doubt more to come.
However what of Bloody Friday, Claudy,Darkley,Tullyvallen, Birmingham, Balmoral Furniture Shop, Enniskillen, Teebane, La Mon House, Shankill & many many more massacres of innocents?
People are indeed entitled to Truth, Justice, and Accountability.
But have these inquiries served both communities?
Over the last 18 years we have been told that we are living in Peace. Yet every year there is thousands of attacks.
From the Northern Bank Robbery, Castlereagh Burglary, Robert McCartney, Andrew Kearney, Paul Quinn up to Andrew Allen recently.
The Deaths of Sappers Azimkar & Quinsey, Constable Carroll & Kerr, the terrible injuries of Constable Heffron. The constant attacks on policemen, policewomen & police barracks.
All of the above carried out by IRA men & IRA weapons. Not Dissidents. But PIRA Weapons & Disgruntled PIRA members, using weapons that were supposed to have been decommissioned.
Then there is the Historical Enquiry Team.
Will Gerry Adams be arrested for the deaths of constables Cunningham & Haslett or for directing terrorism? McGuinness for Frank Hegarty. Or any republican of any value ?
Republican Gerry McGeough who was jailed, rightfully so, had served his purpose & was taken care of for SF. Do the HET only want to arrest those opposed to Peace & Loyalists?
Then there is the Republican Parades Commission.
The PUL community see Republican Violence being paid each time they cause carnage by another restriction on a PUL parade.
The RPC quickly forget that any violence that surfaces around parades is violence carried out by Republicans.
The Orange Order, RBP, ABOD, Protestants, Unionists, Loyalists didn't wreck the Catholic part of Ardoyne. Republican Hoods Did.
Local rags say that Loyalists being at a RBP parade proved they started this violence.
Why?
And where should Loyalists be?
Giving that Republicans are attacking our Culture & our Britishness, should Loyalists not be at these parades to make sure they are not attacked & defend them if they are?
Every camera during these parades is focused towards the PUL community.
Why?
Does SF have such a strong grip that reporters will do anything, like a junkie, for a photo or few lines from them?
There have been hundreds of attacks on Orange Halls. Halls that are used by all the community, Catholics included. Some burnt to the ground. Bands have lost thousands of pounds worth of band equipment. Not to mention the historical value of some of the banners etc lost.
Over 1 million Protestants are asked to accept mass murderers like Gerry Kelly & Co into government. Yet these killers of their children are trying to take away their rights. Rights that SF Ira cried about being denied for years.
The PUL parades walk by Ardoyne with their heads held high, while Sean Kelly the Shankill Bomber & Child Killer stands watching, protesting at them doing so.
The PUL community walked for decades down by St Patricks, No doubt stopping over the years outside it to play music. Killer Joe Fatz Doherty & JJ Magee have just seen an opportunity to score a cheap point though & made this parade contentious too.
Why?
Why when we are living in this new shared country do republicans not want to share?
Simple. Because they want to eradicate every tiny morsel of Protestantism & Britishness.
Sticks & Stones May Break Your Bones But Flutes Will Never Harm You.
Republicans parade too, but in areas where they are wanted which is why there is no trouble at their parades.
They bang on about Community, yet they seem happy to destroy it brick by brick.
Simpletons!
@@ulsternationalist4109 100%
You need a history book and clearly didn’t seethe whole video correctly!
Oh how things have changed.... What's there reaction going to be like when not if Britain tells them they don't want them
how are there any brick walls left in belfast?
hahahhahhah
The police are always doing the right thing
ROFLMAO. You subscript the video 'continuing to attack anything British' as the video shows Loyalists throwing bricks and bottles at British police. I don't think I need to comment further, LOL, you are too funny!!
A British police force that is enforcing bad government decisions, within the Republican Appeasement Policy, as explained above to you.
@@63gc respect and support from Glasgow👌👍💙
@@63gc attacking anything british to you
@@63gc you made your bed now sleep in it
@@blicky2blacky those your comebacks laddy?!!
hitting out for no reason? the reason is not following the law's instruction, quite simple really. Do you all get a day off work on full pay for obstructing the law in this way?!
good post :)
graingjam you are totaly correct
Well said
Ha can't beat seeing prods fighting prods!!!
If I were scene commander I'd deploy water cannon and baton rounds. No call for this on either side of the community.
Britains sorry mess! And they've yet to apologise to the Irish government and it's citizens.
How many times do I have to say that any civilian targeting. Civilian targeting was mainly a loyalist thing although republicans did, it was nowhere near the level of loyalists. But when it happened condemned it. Tell me.. Would you refer to all political parties with a paramilitary connection? Ie. dup uda? Or does your mud slinging only go 1 direction?
Caption reads "By giving into (sic) Republican Violence" just as the police are being pelted by loyalist bricks. The irony of it.
Lets batter an armoured car with a stick
The police do as the high command tell them! these guys that are here are only doing what they have been told they must do! they have no say in the matter if they think its right or not! they have no choice!
if people respect rules.no whould need police
Funny how all the blurbs at the start accuse the police of lashing out at people for no reason (despite the fact they have reason, it's just carefully withheld from the camera's view screen), and yet when these idiots with nothing better to do stand and throw bricks at the police at point blank range all the blurbs can say is a whole lot of tripe which is unrelated to what we are looking at. How about a couple of lines here and there asking them what sort of peaceful resolution they are aiming for by constantly throwing projectiles? Or would that not help your 'cause'?
A lot of unrelated tripe blah blah blah, close your eyes & ears, that always helps.
Water cannon with purple & green dye in it. Then arrest all those involved the next day. OR Better still Put the paras in....
All that overtext still doesn t change the fact that if you don t move,you ll get shoved. That s like...common sense 101.
The police are far too soft. All this trouble is normally started by the working-class protestant and catholic communities who are always moaning and fighting like children. Both as bad as each other. The police need to toughen up to get this under control. I think a little bit of vigilance goes a long way.
Tbh most of us get along its just a lot don't and this happens it very normal
The PSNI cant do anything so they apear unbiased
But the catholics need a quare beaten
What toughen up like they use to when in a lot of riots there is a gun man in the background to stop the police being heavy handed.Thats partly why the Army were called I think the police are doing all they can.
I love how they essentially build a protective barricade for the riot police over the course of the video
water canon = free bath
+tompo010101 Semxet=central heating.
Actually not cause the water cannon is so fast and strong it like takes skin off
How dysfunctional is this place, fighting for what? A dead cause of a bygone era. The biggest sponge in the UK. Northren Ireland
PEOPLE WERE LEANING AGAINST THEIR SHIELDS, THEY ARE ALLOWED TO HIT THEM. PEOPLE ARE SO STUPID NOWADAYS
It's where leaning not were leaning😂 I see that Gypsy education is paying of lmfao😂😂😂
Those prods always up to no good
7:23 cant even break the wing mirror, haha
Great video, well put together. A little hard to read & watch what's going on at the same time, but none the less it explains the subject, & one side of the situation well. 👍🏼
Subbed.
Shame they are not like this in England and they are not even shouting hate words
Once again we see just how the PUL community is pushed by the likes of the PSNI and parades commission which is so one sided. Thanks for showing this. Sheds a light on the one sided government we have in NI today.
Maybe if they protested on the shankill road & not at henry place as that's deliberately provoking a response from the nationalist community. Thankfully nationalists didn't fall for this provocation & the police did their job .
no water cannons or plastic bullets.??????? must be yer own that yer attacking eh !!!!
against violence towards police but i would say the police brought this on themselves with the violence they used against peaceful people at the start
Must b difficult for them they have ruled the province for so long but demographics and economics are not in their favour
BRO IN THE BACKGROUND THAT WAS THE HOSPITAL MY GRANDA WAS IN
not a baton round fired ?.... changed days.....
Loyal to whom?
Deez nuts
They could build a wall with all those bricks being thrown at them
Someone throwing & desecrating a loyal pallet 🇮🇪🤣🏴
Are you scottish or irish? You can't be both
Well either way, a large portion of the North now votes Republican. You;ll have to learn to live with them. I'm glad we don't have any of it in the south. Thank God we broke away from this mess.
england has to be renamed SCOTLAND
So sad. Look at all the loyalist youth peacefully protesting. The Crown is still using you all as pawns.
Demographics and Economics will bring about peaceful unification
the money it must cost to police this is terrible. should be spent on better things. let them do what they fucking like doing.
UP THE RA!!!!!!!!!
Long live the prodestant faith
100% right again! its all one way with the parades commission and police! its about time the prods start fighting back but do it the right way!
You are only surprised it took so long? Hey, wakey wakey, it didn't, you have been reacting like this since the beginning of the troubles. Any little grievance you ever had was met with Loyalist funded riot. It has been like this since before most of the people reading this were born. Same with Republicans. Again, you are the same, you are of the same mentality. This isn't trouble, it's a day out. It's your sport, it's what you do, you love it. If everything went your way, you would probably riot about the fact that there is nothing to riot about!
Yet again, Tell me Nige, what do you hold dear enough to fight for?
@@63gc OUR country u idiot
This is fucking madness everyone is crazy im irish and ill be moving up to belfast to the loyalist protestant side fucking have anxiety about fuckin being attacked but then i can move back to England ill be fine not be judged
why do you want to walk down the ardoyne there's no place for you there
We should be able to walk where we like, it's the queen's highway. Not like you Fenian scum. Hi back to the priest loving South.
The same reason why they also do
Start causing trouble then cry wolf
@@paulbrowne5049 a can see your a bigot just remember your the minority britain has dessererted you all ten yr it won't be part of Britain in N.ireland its the northern irish road highway where do you think you are 1800's and a few facts for you the vatican funded William of orange he couldn't ride a horse he was more into stableboy lol fucker died trying to ride a horse and went over mole hill lol 😂 he was a dutch clown william of orange is a dutch prince title nothing to do with religion if you weren't so stupid you would know this but you don't a asked a question i never said wat religion i was i just wanted to know why because it wont be brits who go back in it will be NATO read your good friday agreement and two uvf where i stay left belfast because they were gay
@@doom1894 it doesn't look like that in the video looks more your scared Britain will desert you so your trying to start the troubles again crying wolf read your history
@@stephenpatrickholden4335 pretty ironic
The Irish have been crying wolf for 800 years.
protestants had no problem when the RUC were on their side. Times sure have changed. If loyalist are so discriminated against move to the UK. Hate to tell you but they don't want you there either.
Good enough for them. Shoe is on the other foot now, and thats where its staying.
If the insurgents stayed in the south and British in the north ....or is that to sensible
I applaud your appeal for truth in the long list of hideous crimes committed in Northern Ireland. Yes, Loyalists, Unionists, deserve truth. Make your request more weighty by adding to the long list of mentioned atrocities the many crimes committed by the various Loyalist murder gangs. Come to the table with a balanced request and THEN expect to be taken seriously.
I started, & will continue, uploading these videos when I can, not only to highlight the Republican Appeasement Policy, but also to bring attention to Protestant victims, & their families fight for Truth Justice & Accountability, all of which they have not received, & also to celebrate a thriving, proud PUL Culture.
Im sure it's not that hard, even for someone as sharp as yourself, to see that the vast majority of media attention, & financial aid, concerning victims, Bloody Sunday, Pat Finucane, Rosemary Nelson, Robert Hamill, is around Catholics.
Which is why I ask, do you ever hear anyone from within these campaigns speak about getting any of the three for those killed in La Mon House Enniskillen, Balmoral Furniture Shop & countless other Protestant Massacres?
So, although I recognise & agree with, the Catholic community getting all three, I also believe enough is being done for that community to highlight their fight, while literally nothing is being done for the PUL Community, & chose to concentrate what little effort I can towards that community.
Their threat of violence and civil war created the partition if the Irish vote of 1922 b implicated.................. G B capitulated and partitioned the ireland that is Not democracy .....Democracy delivers what the people vote for
You do realise that this parade was pushed back to avoid people from killing each other further down the road.
why cant the police use CS gas at some of these riots ?? but can I say , / can you put yourself in place of the police,??? what way would you police it,??? if you was in the police line,!!!
+gremlinuk1968 They can and do.
I live in Belfast and I used to live up there it was really bad and my dog used to b really really scared she always ran under a chair I had and stayed there 😕
This vid is hilarious and sad in equal measure
Flutes will never harm you? All I see is flutes...
Your not you when your hungry 😢
In a dear little town they call Belfast .QS all the way.
i see this as attempted murder?
Correct, I see it that way too. The police should be charged & jailed right away.
+MrMoriarte You couldn't be more wrong.
@@63gc what for
poor landrovers
F the land rover
+HD GAMER No
bearing in mind that defenders aren't made anymore. Poor landrovers.
It's up to the dup or the uup to help you out with your problems that's the difference between 🇬🇧 v 🇮🇪
Yes
is that gun fire i can hear
Didn't it them hard enough with the batons
one wonders where they are getting all these stones
sure there not threatening them, just throwing glass bottles cones and anything they touch at them
I bet those police are sick of this Shit
I think PUL should be referred to as "Pill" as in drugs
I wonder why the Police just stand there? They are suitably suited and booted to attack? Why don't they?
Lawsuits
In this country if the police hit you the officer get fired and the district gets sued unlike other countries
the most srupid rules for police
7:34 ''Thanks for the shield''
very very old city at ireland
They're new Land Rovers. Just thought i'd say.
or NORWAY
this is what make Belfast Belfast. taking this away is like taking Belfast away. if u know what I mean
Hunger games spring to mind?
Getting stories from weeks like this* I think that is what they meant
the next day they are back to flipping burgers. I Know its tough... just think of the queen.
Get back to making fried chicken kid
I like Belfast guys :D
Some of us are on your side Andy from London
Looks I can.
Royalist, to be fair you talk a lot of sense in the posts I've read below. Can I ask you, and I'm the son of a Falls Rd Catholic who left before the troubles, what do you make do you make of the claim that Unionism discriminated against Catholics from the foundation of the NI. That successive Unionist govts blighted the prosperity and opportunity for generations of Catholics and when these said Catholics marched for civil rights, they were attacked by a sectarian police force. What else can one expect but an armed response to that? Right or wrong, this is largely the perception for the origin of the troubles in the Republic and here in Boston where I now live. Is their a counter argument? By the way I've always wondered...what do the colors on the sash's loyalists wear stand for?
+CALLIT ASITIS
Did Unionism discriminate against Catholics? Yes.
Did Unionism treat working class Protestants any better? No
Before the troubles began both Catholic & Protestant alike, on the Shankill & Falls lived side by side. In fact the houses today are exactly the same, you just have to look at Percy Street, Shankill/Falls Road, to see that.
Then after August 1969 barricades went up across streets dividing both. Both lived in the same houses on either side & had the same problems. At the beginning of the Civil Rights movement, both Catholic & Protestant took part, because they were suffering the same conditions, however this changed once Republicanism got involved.
Was there political policing in Northern Ireland then? Yes.
Is there now against Protestants?, & are the Police as Sectarian today as then?
Armed response? The killing of innocents within Sectarian Bomb & Gun attacks is not an armed response, & no death is worth any cause. 5 bombs on the Shankill Road alone left 25 Innocent Protestants, Not British Army, Police or even Paramilitaries, dead. The same can be said about McGurks etc.
Is there a counter argument?
The Protestant community fearing continuous IRA Campaigns, or being forced into unification, while having those fears played on by Fur Coat Unionism, & looking at what they done as defending, rightly or wrongly, as you say, is the counter argument. The deaths & attacks were real, their fears were real. The deaths were wrong.
Speaking to Republicans, they now admit themselves that unification was never on the table, nor will be. 1000's dead, 1000's of families suffering death, mental & physical scars, 1000's jailed, families wrecked, people put out of homes & country.
Perception is a very dangerous thing. Especially when only one narrative is put out.
Many believe that because I am a Loyalist I'm an Orangeman, however I have never been, nor had any desire to be, in the Orange Order. It held no appeal to me at all. So I dont own a Sash.
I googled it myself, as although I did know it was from the House of Orange, I dont know anything else about it.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Orange-Nassau.
Good Luck.
+Royalist Loyalist Media Nice one royalist. Always wanted to hear what the counter argument would have been without it descending into a row. Sounds to me like both sides have preconceived misconceptions of the other and that these are misconceptions caused led to enormous wrongs committed on both sides. Personally I'd like to see unity. But I know many from the south who do not want anything to do with NI. There are those in the south who cringe at the idea of having to share power with unionists in any future UI. They look at the bible belt inspired DUP and say under no circumstances would they want these 17th century loons having any say in our gov. (There words not mine) So as much as loyalism abhors the idea of a UI, the feeling is mutual among many southerners for dif reasons. My own opinion is that the Brits are sick shit of NI and would gladly get out of it tomorrow. I think they have set the pieces for some form of withdrawal and when the time is right (that means avoiding a bloodbath) they will go. Whether they leave behind a UI or some form of independent statelet remains to be seen. Ofcourse I might be all wrong....who knows.
+Royalist Loyalist Media Quick question if you wouldnt mind...do you consider yourself British, Irish, or both? I'm from Cork by the way...if you have any questions about my home county ask away.
I'll tell you about a Kerryman with a few hundred volunteers managed to defeat an empire, Lloyd George described west Cork as ungovernable, men like Tom Barry of the 3rd west Cork brigade, and Dan Breen in his position in Tipp, now I pass a plaque in Blarney street quite often, to 19 year old, Dennis Spriggs who was tortured and murdered there by crown forces for the sake of a glass of whiskey in a pub in sundays well. I would take no part in the free state so called 100 centenary. I pray for every man and woman who contributed to the cause of Irish National liberation and socialism.
+CALLIT ASITIS The future of Northern Ireland I believe will be a new generation of citizens who consider themselves Northern Irish first. Not British, Not Irish. We have seen this merging of society already with sport transcending the religious divide. Many Catholics now go to Ulster rugby games when in 1970s it was a night out for the RUC, Judges and Protestant elites. We now have a 50/50 Police Force who we can all hate equally. Ha! The GAA has removed the ban on British Force members playing. We have seen stories of sectarianism as these various sports bodies try and merge which is to be expected. Breaking decades of tradition doesn't come easy. Being a sports fan myself I dream of the day we have a Northern Ireland rugby team and Boxers can fight for Northern Ireland. At the minute if you're good enough to be an international athlete in these sports you have to represent Ireland. There are many things like this still to be settled. The road is long.
So sure l'm an Ulster Orangeman, from Erin's isle I came,
To see my British brethren all of honour and of fame,
And to tell them of my forefathers who fought in days of yore,
That I might have the right to wear, the sash my father wore!
Chorus:
It is old but it is beautiful, and its colours they are fine
It was worn at Derry, Aughrim, Enniskillen and the Boyne.
My father wore it as a youth in bygone days of yore,
And on the Twelfth I love to wear the sash my father wore.
Chorus
For those brave men who crossed the Boyne have not fought or died in vain
Our Unity, Religion, Laws, and Freedom to maintain,
If the call should come we'll follow the drum, and cross that river once more
That tomorrow's Ulsterman may wear the sash my father wore!
Chorus
And when some day, across the sea to Antrim's shore you come,
We'll welcome you in royal style, to the sound of flute and drum
And Ulster's hills shall echo still, from Rathlin to Dromore
As we sing again the loyal strain of the sash my father wore!
i WISH i COULD POST
wait no i dont this is ireland not maine
I watched the video and the only thing I can say it is that the police behaved like sheep , can not see any reason to complain but the change of uses, the loyalist were use to smell the police asses meanwhile they hit up the republicans they are use the police to be their guard dogs ,now after the peace the police and the politicians try to keep a more balance situations towards the bigots of both sides , this is hard to take for the loyalist and they cry like queers , they always considered the police and the army as their allies against the republicans , with this video you are making a fool of yourself , no police in any other country would tolerate this amount of violence .
Where are the 1PARA when you need them eh?
i live in belfast
Nah the need to all go home 😄 all will be pronounced on TV news ..
the prods are scared
1:17 when did riot police start wearing white trainers lol
They might rob the internet for stories, but you create the stories for them to rob,
Who are the crazy people and who are the police(catholic/protestamt)?
It's like something of of the hunger games !?
Daniel Brooks were used to it,im sure if you took a couple from Belfast into the hunger games we would survive..too used to the violence
Is it scary?
it happens too often for it to be scary anymore,things that would make headlines in other places are things that happen daily here
+Caitlin Clifford yeah it happens to often rarely go out in fear of being attacked for being catholic there tons of Catholics and Protestants that get along don't fight and then there's some like that it's quite normal though
think i just seen ole bobby, coming outa the chip shop! im sure he coulda ate 2 pastie suppers and downed a few tins of coke! looking a bit skinny on it!
looks to do with having fun over political aims , boredom more like
I was at this
old city, move to brazil...
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yepaa
63gc this is a very by-ist opinion. u can see these actions on both sides e.g.holy cross protest
Upa shankill yepaaaa
7.57 psni makeshift bonfire