Great videos. I also live in VA, in the Northern Neck along the Rappahannock River. The only thing you might want to mention is the length you cut the cable. With the system I installed, I cut the cable 1 3/4 inches shorter than the distance between the end posts. This is crucial. Thanks for the time you took to make these videos :)
So I have the same setup as you. The Muzata left and right lag screw connectors. I believe I actually went with those because I saw your first video. Ive had mine on my deck right about a year now. I actually am removing all of them tomorrow and redoing them with the turnbuckle style hardware. I've found that the lag screw style just continually loosens and within a few days of snugging them up I notice a sag to the cable. I go and touch them and there is hardly any tension on the cable. I don't know if I installed someone incorrectly from the get go, but the lag screw style is not holding up for me. I feel with the turn buckle style that had the nut on it, that should help stop the cable from unscrewing. Maybe not, but I'm going to swamp them out tomorrow...
Had a good experience recently as well! Just finished a project. One tip on the crimp tool, make sure the dial is tight when you turn to “on”. I crimped a few without the dial being tight enough and noticed the compression wasn’t enough and the crimp didn’t hold.
Excellent video! I'm doing research on how to revamp my railing on a 60 year old porch that has the old style spindles and 4x4's that go up to the roof of the porch. We live in the mountains of Southwest Virginia on a river and want to see all the wildlife and Bald Eagles as they go up and down the river. This looks like our best option that I've found so far.
Thank you for the info, very good. My questions I have are: 1. what was your cost per linear foot for this? 2. What other materials are available to DIY with this cable railing? 3. What places are most reasonable cost to get them? Thank you
JMU grad living in Atlanta now... miss those mountains! What is the longest length of cable that you've run from a termination post to another termination post? I can get Muzata (after 2 weeks of effort) to answer that I need intermediate posts every 4-8ft, however, they either refuse to answer or don't understand my question regarding termination post to termination post recommendations. My longest run would be ~35ft, termination post to termination post and through 6 intermediary posts.. just need to know if I should break this up into smaller runs, meaning do I need to purchase additional hardware as opposed to just running cables through intermediary posts. Thanks!
I used this muzata system and that little wrench is a huge headache, now 6montgs later all the cable is sagging and I'm not sure if that's common with this system or something I could do better...
You mention having kids. Our kids are grown but my fear with cable decking is that future little ones will be trying to get through the cable. Honestly, I also worry that our dogs will too... if they see something then try to climb through the cables. Yikes! Your Muzata Cable install looks a bit different than anything I've seen in our location. I like the black cables! I've not seen that around here. I also like the 3" spacing rather than the four. I'm sure it was more work but hey, it seems more safe that way. My question is, if you had it to do over again, would you have done anything differently?
They need to provide better wrenches that don’t bend, Otherwise super cool product and can definitely save time money and materials over buying or building railing. You do need to make sure you’re tightening both and same number of rotations because if not, we will eventually rotate to get the twist out and loosen. Also it’s easy to pull your railings out of line if you don’t have really strong railing connections. These wires are pretty strong.
Great video brother. We are going to emulate what you all did because it beautiful. Did you use 1/8” wire and anchors? Also, so you only put anchors are the far ends then those hole caps to feed the cables through? Is that correct? So for your project you needed 60 anchors? Wanna make sure I understand exactly what I need
Wish you would have answered all the questions because now I’m having trust issues with this. I want black too and the question was asked about fading, cracking, discoloration So the answer please!
Thanks for the vid. I am curious about the 1 piece threaded bolt and cable barrel. They are already crimped on the barrel end so i’m curious if I need to un-crimp, insert and recrimp to get the 1/8 cable all the way to the end of the barrel. Tell me what i’m missing here.
Hi, great video and super helpful as I prepare for a railing retrofit project for my deck. I am debating between the stainless steel or the black vinyl coating. Do you have any regrets on the black? Do you see any fading or deteriorating of the vinyl coating? Does it have a plastic look to it? Style wise, I would much prefer to go with the black.
Thanks for the video. Excellent information. My deck is fairly long - 90'. Can the connectors at both ends be enough from maintaining the tension or do I need to segment the railing.
With regards to the little wrench that Muzata includes for tightening the cable wire: Do the semi circle divots on each side of it have any purpose at all?
I have the Muzata angle bushings for my intermediate post. The bushing tube is in the post and I’m trying to figure out how to use the washer and the adhesive washer. Right now the washer doesn’t stay in place. Is it supposed to be adhesive on both sides?
I will be using a cable railing on my deck and I am concerned about the corner posts being pulled inward . Is this an issue I should be concerned about?
Everywhere I look for instructions on installing the Muzata Cable railing terminal(CR24) it simply says "use the crimper..." Yeah, obviously. But using WHICH die set!? I know the CR24 is 1/4" around, and it goes on a 1/8" wire. Does that mean I use the 1/8" die set or something between 1/8" and 1/4"? I don't want to blow out my new crimping tool because I went too small. Thanks in advance for any guidance!
Great videos. I also live in VA, in the Northern Neck along the Rappahannock River. The only thing you might want to mention is the length you cut the cable. With the system I installed, I cut the cable 1 3/4 inches shorter than the distance between the end posts. This is crucial. Thanks for the time you took to make these videos :)
Really helpful video. I didn't realize all the planning, hardware & tools involved. I'm going to try the design service too.
So I have the same setup as you. The Muzata left and right lag screw connectors. I believe I actually went with those because I saw your first video. Ive had mine on my deck right about a year now. I actually am removing all of them tomorrow and redoing them with the turnbuckle style hardware. I've found that the lag screw style just continually loosens and within a few days of snugging them up I notice a sag to the cable. I go and touch them and there is hardly any tension on the cable. I don't know if I installed someone incorrectly from the get go, but the lag screw style is not holding up for me. I feel with the turn buckle style that had the nut on it, that should help stop the cable from unscrewing. Maybe not, but I'm going to swamp them out tomorrow...
Had a good experience recently as well! Just finished a project.
One tip on the crimp tool, make sure the dial is tight when you turn to “on”. I crimped a few without the dial being tight enough and noticed the compression wasn’t enough and the crimp didn’t hold.
Great tip!
Just wanted to say thank you for putting this video together. Muzata should hire you to do all their videos!
I found crimping with the flat section of the jaws not only crimps better, but also give you a flat section to use your wrench on.
Excellent video! I'm doing research on how to revamp my railing on a 60 year old porch that has the old style spindles and 4x4's that go up to the roof of the porch. We live in the mountains of Southwest Virginia on a river and want to see all the wildlife and Bald Eagles as they go up and down the river. This looks like our best option that I've found so far.
Thank you for the info, very good. My questions I have are:
1. what was your cost per linear foot for this?
2. What other materials are available to DIY with this cable railing?
3. What places are most reasonable cost to get them?
Thank you
Very nice, going to try.
Thank you! Very helpful!
great info...thanks for explaining all of he details.
Thanks for watching 🙂
JMU grad living in Atlanta now... miss those mountains! What is the longest length of cable that you've run from a termination post to another termination post? I can get Muzata (after 2 weeks of effort) to answer that I need intermediate posts every 4-8ft, however, they either refuse to answer or don't understand my question regarding termination post to termination post recommendations. My longest run would be ~35ft, termination post to termination post and through 6 intermediary posts.. just need to know if I should break this up into smaller runs, meaning do I need to purchase additional hardware as opposed to just running cables through intermediary posts. Thanks!
Helpful info.. thankx!
Glad it was helpful!
Did you have to cut the coating back so it would fit in the connector?
I used this muzata system and that little wrench is a huge headache, now 6montgs later all the cable is sagging and I'm not sure if that's common with this system or something I could do better...
You mention having kids. Our kids are grown but my fear with cable decking is that future little ones will be trying to get through the cable. Honestly, I also worry that our dogs will too... if they see something then try to climb through the cables. Yikes! Your Muzata Cable install looks a bit different than anything I've seen in our location. I like the black cables! I've not seen that around here. I also like the 3" spacing rather than the four. I'm sure it was more work but hey, it seems more safe that way. My question is, if you had it to do over again, would you have done anything differently?
It’s worked great. The 3” spacing works for us but I could see 2.5” working well with infants/toddlers.
They need to provide better wrenches that don’t bend,
Otherwise super cool product and can definitely save time money and materials over buying or building railing.
You do need to make sure you’re tightening both and same number of rotations because if not, we will eventually rotate to get the twist out and loosen.
Also it’s easy to pull your railings out of line if you don’t have really strong railing connections. These wires are pretty strong.
Thank you.
Great video brother. We are going to emulate what you all did because it beautiful. Did you use 1/8” wire and anchors? Also, so you only put anchors are the far ends then those hole caps to feed the cables through? Is that correct? So for your project you needed 60 anchors? Wanna make sure I understand exactly what I need
Wish you would have answered all the questions because now I’m having trust issues with this. I want black too and the question was asked about fading, cracking, discoloration
So the answer please!
Sorry we’ve taken a break from RUclips and we miss comments. The black had held up great all this time with no cracking and very limited fading.
Thanks for the vid. I am curious about the 1 piece threaded bolt and cable barrel. They are already crimped on the barrel end so i’m curious if I need to un-crimp, insert and recrimp to get the 1/8 cable all the way to the end of the barrel. Tell me what i’m missing here.
Hi, great video and super helpful as I prepare for a railing retrofit project for my deck. I am debating between the stainless steel or the black vinyl coating. Do you have any regrets on the black? Do you see any fading or deteriorating of the vinyl coating? Does it have a plastic look to it? Style wise, I would much prefer to go with the black.
I have the same question. 8:22 Did you get anywhere with a answer
What is your hand rail made of? I love the look of your total project.
Looks like 2x4 on the bottom, but what is the top part? Thanks in advance!
Thanks for the video. Excellent information. My deck is fairly long - 90'. Can the connectors at both ends be enough from maintaining the tension or do I need to segment the railing.
With regards to the little wrench that Muzata includes for tightening the cable wire: Do the semi circle divots on each side of it have any purpose at all?
What is the spacing on your deck posts?
5'
How much did it cost ? Total? Or linear foot?
I have the Muzata angle bushings for my intermediate post. The bushing tube is in the post and I’m trying to figure out how to use the washer and the adhesive washer. Right now the washer doesn’t stay in place. Is it supposed to be adhesive on both sides?
The wrench…how many did you need to complete your job?
just the one
Did you have any issues using one single wire for the whole width of your deck?
No. Need to tighten a little after a year
What is the spacing between your posts? 4 feet?
Ours is 5 feet
I will be using a cable railing on my deck and I am concerned about the corner posts being pulled inward . Is this an issue I should be concerned about?
Do have a rough national average of what an installer might charge per linear foot?
No, sorry I don’t have that info.
To prevent kids from climbing, You can't run wood horizontal on rails.
How can horizontal wire railing be to code?
Everywhere I look for instructions on installing the Muzata Cable railing terminal(CR24) it simply says "use the crimper..." Yeah, obviously. But using WHICH die set!? I know the CR24 is 1/4" around, and it goes on a 1/8" wire. Does that mean I use the 1/8" die set or something between 1/8" and 1/4"? I don't want to blow out my new crimping tool because I went too small.
Thanks in advance for any guidance!
For anyone else wondering, you go with the 1/8 die set for 1/8 wire.
I found it better to crimp with the flat jaws rather than the 1/8” detent.