This is amazing. ABC in China here and I agree with all of it. The way I describe it is that too many Chinese people live their lives for status, and the current calculus on status dictates that white people are on top. This also means their views are paramount and all the dog whistling in US/Western media is seen directly through Chinese eyes, so they internalize the performative racism of white people. Internally though, the vast majority don't think black people are inherently poor/low status, which is why your origin country matters a lot. This is why it is so important for China and Africa to get along and to grow together. China needs to see Africa less through the Western lens and more through the African lens. FOCAC's strategic importance is thus crucial for cultural ignorance to be transformed into cultural understanding rather than cultural intolerance.
China is communist they are a wicked government that is racist. No there will never be good relationship between China and Africa because China only wants the resources in Africa. Chinese go to Africa and act superior to the African people and treat them so bad a lot get deported.
Totally agree with both of you, and the major population of east asian who growed in such mono cultural environment properly would never able to get these points.
Racism is in all countries. Being Black in China wont get you killed unlike in Ameri k k ka George Floyd, Dante Wright, Breanna Taylor , Ahmaud Arbery etc etc. #BLM #BLACKLIVESMATTER #EVERYCHILDMATTERS #KNOWTHEIRNAMES #60REASENS
'too many Chinese people live their lives for status' This pretty much describes entire US/western world - which is why advertising so effective in shaping behavior
I tried my best! This video was originally over 25 minutes long so I had to chop it down a lot. There is really so much so say, but hopefully I touched on some of the key points!
I have been living and traveling in China since 2013. I am mixed Filipino/White American. I have been denied jobs in China because I don't look "American". I also dread sending my profile pictures to agents because I would get comments like "are you Chinese" or "are you Asian?" One year, I worked part time in training center and a grandmother got mad because she wanted an "American" teaching her grandchild. Unfortunately I have many friends who were denied apartments because they had darker skin tones. Once I some performers at international show who American but because of their skin tone they had to perform "African" dances and wear tribal looking outfits. The worst experience I have seen in China was when I had to attend a safety/welcome conference in Shenzhen. The police officer asked all black skinned people to raise their hand and then he proceeded to say "I want talk about your home land Africa". He then spent an hour ranting about how Africans were dangerous and that they commit the worst crimes. But I feel like these incidents are getting less and less as time moves on. Yes racism still exists in China but a lot of it deals with ignorance and misunderstanding.
That "ignorance, not really racism" sentiment -- I very much resonate with that. I spent 1 month in Beijing, and that, that exactly, was my experience.
Glad to hear from others! We have had these discussions in various black groups so much and while we don't want to excuse behavior as "oh they don't know any better" it's definitely a different experience from how some of us may be treated in our home countries.
Omg I love your videos. I am black and am currently learning Mandarin here in the states. I taught in Shanghai in 2018 for a summer, and made a really great native friend there. So, recently I started to take this Mandarin class, so when we facetime, I can one day speak to him in his native language like how he speaks English to me. I also hopefully will go back to China in the next 1 to 2 years and hopefully stay there for some time. Its a beautiful country!
As a local, I'm so sorry about your bad experience in China. The landlord annoyed me a lot as well. Although China has the highest number of tourists in the world, many Chinese have never been to any country. Their knowledge about foreigners is only from some Chinese medium which reported a lot of negative info about black people, and many of them distinguish people's country by the color. My mom still thinks all black people are from Africa or poor areas, as you mentioned. However, it is definitely not racism. It's a kind of stereotype or first impression, that no one will hurt black people on the street. If you talk with people and let them understand you more, they will change their thinking quickly. Hope many people like you spread more truth, and eliminate misunderstandings with each other.
No need to apologize, we will inevitably encounter people like this everywhere nevermind a country with over 1.4 billion people! Overall my experiences are positive and at least in my 10 years here I’ve only seen things get better. There’s still work to do but we can say that about everywhere. I am very thankfully for my friends, colleagues and neighbors who have helped China feel like a second home to me.
I wanna hug so bad that life is hard being diffrent in them 😭 I understand why choose stay there for 8 years ughh i just wish you get all the happiness in this you're pure beautiful human
This is great. I wonder what it’s like being a black man in China. We are depicted as dangerous and violent here in the US so i couldn’t imagine it’s great. Either way, great video. I love how you started it off. Saying how you are different from typical tourist or black people who are in China.
@@thisischaniece wow that’s a great video. It actually seems like the racism in China is better than the racism here in the US. Then again honestly. The racism here in the US historically has been the worst. I haven’t read much on other countries but Jim Crow really did it for us.
@@MakingBigMoves Yea, honestly if you treat people with respect here you get it back. That's always number 1. I have had my Chinese neighbors tell me to stay in China instead of going back to the US because "it's too racist there", lol (referring to George Floyd and BLM protests). You definitely don't need to worry about cops in China as a black person, that is for sure...
It's interesting you mentioned black people are depicted as dangerous and violent in the US culture. I am under the impression that a lot of Chinese people form their views about "foreigners" (including black people) based on the western popular culture they consume, and the stuff they consume is mostly from the US. I wonder if that plays a role in shaping Chinese people's views about black people.
As a Chinese decendent, I was really upset that you had to go through all that. I wish they knew better but it's reality. I'm happy that you've been able to accomplish that much in 8 years. Even though there is a ton of shit with the economy there as of 2022, I hope you find a way out of the crisis.
My mate is black went to China loved it, he said that everyone wanted a photo with him as they dont get to see black people. He said it was the best holiday he ever had
When I first saw you bring interviewed on the street by Asian Boss, your intelligent words immediately stood out. This channel is really an unbiased, insightful place.
This is in all Asian countries I’m currently obsessed with Japanese culture I’ve seen a lot of Japanese channels admit that white people are treated better just because there skin is a light skin color and I’ve even heard some of them say having a white wife or husband is an honor that makes me feel bad since I’m an Afro-Latino I’m light skinned but I feel they still might treat me differently a lot of high industry countries in Asia like Japan and China only want people from rich and smart countries like America and Canada they view people like from the Philippines as poor unintelligent I think Asian culture was really influenced by European and white American culture mabye if we had gotten to them first they would think so different of us I don’t exactly blame them for the way they think because they are taught to think this way and also racism exists everywhere of course some people might be racist but u can’t judge a few bad experiences and say a whole country is racist because of it things have change a little with the younger generations since they are more acceptive I hope when I’m old enough and finish college I can move and see China,Japan, South Korea for myself.
@@KAIZENURAMESHI yeah and that’s the reason why white propel are treated better Japanese admire white European men and woman anime proves it why do Japanese not like themselves is what I’ve learned in anime black characters are drawn as racist stereotypes that white people in the Americas in the early 1900’s in old cartoons and the Japanese continue to use it if even seen anime where they made Japanese characters do black face and joke about it and this is newer gen anime as much as I love Japanese culture I hate the colorism I don’t get why someone would prefer a lighter skin tone over a darker I’ve seen actual Japanese speak up about it on RUclips on how dating a white person means your have succeeded in life like what I’ve seen this black girl in Korea this guy gave out umbrellas to all the women accept the black ones and laughed one of those girls had just gotten her hair done I know racism is everywhere but places like Korea China and Japan are mostly made up of the same people little to none foreigners don’t let me start on dating I seen this black girl in Japan on tiktok actually who bleached her skin so people would like her more and want to date her someone shouldn’t have to endanger themselves to harmful bleaching products to get someone to like them a year ago I didn’t know about the colorism and racism of some Asian countries but what I find funny is in western countries Asians are seen as skinny pale white and u probably already know how Asians get made fun of their eyes and the way they talk but this is a good example how racism is everywhere I just don’t get why it exists I think it’s the number 1 problem in the world rn.
@@OutcastYBJ I agree on many levels but you have to understand Asia Japan specifically was destroyed by America so they will obviously bend back for them so that's a no brainer but you can't let that bother you everyone's experience is different I barely experienced racism while I was Japan but I would never live there because of how isolated and depressing it felt there Osaka was nice though
Hi Chaniece. I came to your channel by way of Asian Boss, your comment was thoughtful and I was pleasantly surprised to find you have a YT channel. Thank you for sharing your experiences! I think representation matters a great deal when showing people of different ethnicities. Growing up in the states, most of what I've seen in the media did not properly depict folks of minority groups (which is dangerous because media has its way of reinforcing these lies to people who don't know better) and looking back at it now as an adult, I see now how much racist undertones there were. Please continue to use images of black professionals in your lessons, because children are not born racist, it's something taught and learned.
Can I ask how you maintain your hair in China? I'm also an African american woman and I want to move to China in 2022 with my husband. Finding it difficult to pick a city that could suit me and how difficult it will be to manage since I always have it straightened.
I bring all my hair products from the US (they do have a lot of the ones I use on e-commerce websites here, but they are just very pricy since they are purchased abroad). If you want to get a good stylist for your hair I recommend you stick with bigger cities like Shanghai and Beijing where there is a large black expat community. In Shanghai, for example, we have a group for women and if you need a contact for braiding hair, straightening, makeup, etc...you name it, you can always find someone. I imagine it's the same in Beijing and other large cities. There are also professional hairstylists that can do black hair from what I have heard.
@@thisischaniece I'm also interested in how you got into translation. I have been studying Chinese for 5 years and when I move to China I'll be teaching English. Did you find the transition as a foreigner easy?
@@liyuqi8092 Oh that would have to be a long video haha. But in the most brief way possible, I majored in Chinese, moved here and taught English for a year (it was nearly impossible to find any translation-related jobs right out of college), and then I transitioned into translation after applying for ANY non-teaching job (regardless of the salary) right as I was about to finish my contract. I expected to search for 2 months and it took only 2 weeks for me to find a new job (this was in 2014, but I doubt much has changed). One important thing to remember is that unless you have a high degree in translation, your salary will be much lower than an English teacher, but if you don't mind that it's very easy to find a translation jobs if you pass a simple translation test (start working on your translation now--find Chinese games and start trying to translate it into English for example). Chinese companies really need native English speakers that speak Chinese. I'll make sure to do a video about this because there is so much to say!
Great video! Quite informative for a native Chinese people like me. The African "非洲' European "欧洲" thing, to my knowledge, often used in describing ones luck on game lottery/ loot box, comes from something like "people with darker skin color (darker face) are less lucky", guess it also links with how old Western films protrait European and African people, "stereotype".
It started with associating bad luck to black color, which is a cultural thing in China. Then someone linked black to black people, thus now bad luck is linked to Africa. A person with bad luck is an "African tribe leader" 非酋, and a person with good luck is an "European emperor" 欧皇.
@@chriswang6180 Can agree, when my cousin got married, his mom got so angry at a shopkeeper who put a black plastic sheet in front of his house, which is considered very "晦气“.
Perhaps a significant chunk of classism and general ripple effect of imperialism too, since the (mostly) white westerners holds the global hegemony and historically did a lot of horrible things in Africa. I'd say it's even less of associating the color black, but more associating Africa as a place that endured hardship, and that Europe as a place of affluence (which really just shows the ugliness of imperialism doesn't it...) hence the "unlucky" and "lucky" association respectively.
I don't understand why some comments say black face means bad luck. Is that a current thing influence by the west? Black face could also mean Iron face (fearless fairness and justice) in traditional Chinese (包拯)；white face could also mean cunning and decfitful (曹操).
In fact, I prefer to think that is because of a stereotype formed by cultural differences for thousands of years.Just as “black face” represents bad luck in Chinese culture, it has nothing to do with race. In some movies, black faces are used to create comic effects, but if you observe carefully, white are equally effective. What's more interesting is that black faces represent bravery、bold and forthright in Beijing opera. Most Chinese people only care about their own lives. In their view, whites and blacks are just foreigners. Moreover, because modern China is committed to overthrowing the theory of ancestry and destiny advocated in ancient times, Chinese people don‘t think that race and destiny are related. Of course, racists are everywhere, but I think there are only a few “real racists” in China. Anyway, I sincerely hope there will be fewer things that frustrate you in the future. -by Google Translate
Thanks for your comment! I made the distinction between racism/prejudice I have experienced in China vs. how it is different from what I have dealt with in the US in the video. Perhaps the full differences require another video, but this was mostly to highlight the issues black people will encounter while living in China. While these types of issues in China may be different from what is experienced in western countries, it doesn't make the prejudice any more fun to deal with.
Love this video so much and feel sorry for your unpleasant experiences in China. Racism is not in the dictionary of elder generations as they spent all life in a single-nation country which happened to own no colonies as sources of immigration. You depicted their ignorance so precisely. Trust me or not, a washing machine changing a Chinese into a white-skinned guy will not bring my mother more pleasure or dismay than one changing a black-skinned guy into a Chinese. It is what it is, though bizzare, I get it. Hopefully, younger generations have more awareness of this issue, but sometimes just don't push Chinese too hard on any thing. We just tend to fend off any pressure from outdoors. Finally, as a bad-looking Chinese, I share your frustration about the existing beauty standard(lol).
About that whole pulling card thing, I think I should explain it a bit further as a Chinese person. First, it's a type of description that was developed in only recent years on the Internet among gamers, especially mobile games with those pulling-cards features. You wouldn't really see that in real life. Second, the meaning is definitely nothing about race, at least originally. In Chinese, 黑 means dark, and when we say 脸黑（face gets dark）, that typically means something serious, unlucky, unfair or ridiculous has happened to you and your whole facial expression has turned dark. And gamers use that a lot, like when you have a 99% chance of hitting that enemy and the result shows that you missed it. And to contrast that, 脸白（white face） became an expression to say that you're really lucky, like you won a 0.001% winning rate on first try, which is also ridiculous. And to make cases even more extreme, netizens/gamers gradually started to use 非酋（African Chieftains） to represent the most unlucky gamers and 欧皇（European Kings） to represent the most lucky gamers, based on the general assumptions that African Chieftains have the deepest skin color and European Kings are the whitest. So the intentions of these expressions are definitely nothing about race. So just like you said, it's more about ignorance instead of racism. This level of this ignorance varies according to the development level of the city, education level of the specific person and past experiences plus general decency of him/her.
Chinese from mainland really praise White people. I don't think they really do know what is actually happening to Asian people in the west. I am a Chinese myself but not from China and I think that black people has their own beauties. Don't feel sad girl. You are really beautiful imo.
I think that your presence in China is very valuable. You are there to hopefully change a lot of misconceptions and educate people. When I think about the world and how I wish it would change here are my top 3s: 1) China awakens to a more humanitarian consciousness (where old outdated beliefs and superstitions are replaced with open minded and educated ones. So that animals aren’t abused and exploited. And people are given greater freedom and acceptance.) 2) peace in the Middle East 3) US would be less divided and racism is a thing of the past.
Thank you for sharing your experience. There is definitely racist Chinese people and a lot of them. Really hope people can start realising this problem. About kids laughing at black person pictures, I have the same experience getting laught at when I was in Africa as a Chinese person😂 They literally ran around and call me whiteman. I think this probably just what kids do.
Chaniece! Great video and you just earned a subscriber. You have my admiration and respect. There are not many people who're as courageous as you in telling your experience and expressing how you feel. I feel like I can really relate to you since I share very similar experience with you, except everything about me demographically is completely opposite to you. Obviously I didn't experience something as blatant as some of these lower class employers that you came across, but nonetheless, the experience has allowed me to grow as a person to be more empathetic to others but also more comfortable to who I am. This really well-made video made me recognized that I would not have been able to grow in that aspect had I not break my comfort zone and made the cross cultural/continent move.
I followed you on Tiktok. And now it’s been over a year since you posted. Could you just comment to let us know you were all right? I don’t want to get you in any trouble. I know things are different in Shanghai China. We’re hearing about all the protests and terrible things going on right now. We hope you’re safe.
Yea some of these videos are not what's up, but there is more and more positive media coverage, especially after black lives matter in the states. They're gettin' there... but racist propaganda from the west has unfortunately made its way into China too.
For years, Chinese/asians have been western media’s/TVs comedy relief.....don’t think it’s changed much. How many leading Asian roles are there in Hollywood unless it’s a Fung fu film. Yellow face still exists in Hollywood....Emma Stone in “Aloha”.
There isn't much intersection in these two topics, but yes the west has a lot of issues when it comes to dehumanzing non-white people in their media. It's a product of a very racist history.
what is funny is....they some chinese people don't allow looking chinese people who were born in an english speaking country to teach their children english too :U
i can understand her perspective and chinese...... it's like would you travel to china to learn kung fu, but you end up with a white guy teaching you kung fu in china as a Master? it's on youtube, other white people see this and reject him immediately, actually get pissed that they travel to china and pay money $ to learn kung fu from a white guy when it should be authentic kung fu Master of a Chinese Master............ so the same is with English teacher, the chinese want a white face. this is the reality...... perception and stereotyping is what the world runs on daily.
You can live inside Shaolin Temple to learn martial art, but expensive. The surrounding areas of Shaolin Temple have a lot of people practice martial arts. They are really good. There are other area of China you can practice martial arts. Most of people in Shanghai and Beijing don't practice martial arts.
Oh have we!! I remember back when we had whole panels on this discussion. I think there is a recording of one floating around somewhere. Tried to keep it all the way real. Hope you're doing well and thanks for the sub :)
Thank you for the video. You are beautiful, your smile would light up any room. I found you through Asian Boss. Although I love Shanghai, I will never return because of an attack and the events which transpired afterwards. While in Shanghai, many strangers keep approaching me to take photos with them. I am an attractive black woman, some would call beautiful, (Although I don't think so). This is the thing. I am not the standard beauty. I am dark brown skin, and have a hour glass figure. I know being asked to take photos had nothing to do with me being black others in my group were not ask, who were also African American. My point, Chinese beauty standards are changing? Everyone assumed I was there teaching English, which I was not. They seem to have a very limited view on professional black people as if we don't exist. Finally, when I travel to any Asian country when I tell them, I am African American they are shocked. Can someone please share with me why? Is it because of African American women stereotypes? Is it because they see Americans only being White?
Very sorry to hear about your experience. I am glad you were able to get away from it. Thank you so much for the compliments, and I am sure you are a very beautiful woman. Living in China is definitely not for everyone. You will come across MANY repetitive comments, questions and statements based on people's ideas of what Americans are like, what foreigners are like and what black people are like. In terms of your question, I am not sure I get it completely. Some Chinese people, based on where they grew up, have a very limited understanding of America and don't typically associate America with non-white people. I've come across this before where people would debate among themselves where I was from. It was interesting to hear people say no not necessarily Africa, black people can come from many countries. Though being a homogenous society, they mostly see colors as belonging to distinct countries.
So do you think that all of this representation of the color black and dark won’t reflect as negative representation on people who are actually that color through racism?
Jesus love you, he died on the cross for you, accept him as your lord and savior he can change everything. For God so loved the world that he gave his only son, so that everyone who believes in him may not perish but may have eternal life" (Jn 3:16" But you must repent too. From that time Jesus went about preaching and saying, Let your hearts be turned from sin, for the kingdom of heaven is near. (Matthew 4:17).
I'm not sure if anyone has asked before but how did you learn chinese? Perhaps someone in your family is chinese or did you just natrually learn it as you have been there for 8 years. I find language learning very fun and exciting and i would love it if you could make a video about your language learning experience!
Videos like these are so interesting to me! I would love to see more videos about cultural difference or culture shocks you experienced living in China.
The capital talks. Though censored, majority of movies, and TV dramas made now does not fit the socialism value. Many hardcore leftists show strong opinions on those west-centered cultural products as it does not help to build the socialistic culture. Some products depicts the first 30 years are all wrong, some depicts the second 30 years are all wrong, while some depicts both are wrong. The racism is an imported thing after the reform and open policy (second 30 years), and westernization. However, it has been reversing back gradually.
Love ur vids and ur tiktok as well. Hopefully things ease up in Shanghai soon! BUT I just think u should kno, there is someone here on youtube who is slandering your name. His channel is called "Splash Wave Beats" and the vid is titled "Blk men need to set a global beauty stndard for women" its at 2h22m30sec
Thanks for the video. I am from Shanghai, live in US now. I saw black people here and there in Shanghai, never talked to them. There is black professional lady lives next to my father's building. I saw her a few times. Thank you for sharing your story and perspectives.
Yea, we are definitely out here! People always ask me if there are black people in Shanghai and I am just like there is a whole presence of us for sure. Thank you for watching! :)
@@thisischaniece , good to hear that. Most people don't know black people very well in China. They get second hand information from TV and internet. Hope more black people go to China to visit and live, interact with Chinese people. I learn a lot of black culture from leaning Afro-Cuban dance. It's the biggest joy in my life to dance.
@@Fordance100 That's fascinating! Glad you have found a way to connect more with Black/African culture. I agree that the best way to deal with a lot of these misconceptions is to just interact with people in China more. I even have known Korean people I met here in China tell me that basic interactions with me and other black people changed their views. I think the more interaction, the more people realize we are all just the same minus skin tone and cultural differences.
I just started to follow your vlogs and saw this. This much I can say that how kids laughing at certain “black” acts came about. They got it from their parents and/or grandparents, who learned it from earlier Hollywood. Especially the earlier, I meant, 50’s 60’s, like laugh-ins, sammy davis jr,,,. Kinda like, here in US, in earlier days, people would see Chinese and say “chingching chungchung”, or mimic kungfu, or⋯⋯. Those were people, ignorant, but not nasty. Boy I miss them, nowadays, after “kungflu”, Asians get spit on, pushed, hit,,,,. Personally, I would separate, those words associated with physical harms done upon, as opposed to harms done upon and can only returning with words. Another way to see it; the hunters’ words like “chink” vs the hunted s’ words like “鬼老”, “鬼子”… Racial, yes, racism, ⋯⋯ just saying⋯⋯
Yes, of course it stems from the way they were raised and what they have been exposed to. I was quite surprised by it at first--like I really did not understand the laughing. I would try to find the most professional neutral looking photos but to no avail. I decided to show more pictures of black people to students rather than less. If seeing black people is not normalized...it needs to be. I think it's just more shocking when you deal with as a well...black person who teaches students who appear to respect you as a person only to see kind of see this ugly side of humanity in response to just seeing an image of a black person. In the states I grew up with hearing people saying that mocking phrase to people of East Asian descent quite often, even when I was in college. Was always very disgusting to deal with. A lot of this is hateful, ignorance and miseducation. I will say in the states dealing with racism can be much more scary (fearing for your safety or fear of being attacked), and in China it's usually just annoying.
@thisischaniece, Suggestion, kids love stories like, three musketeers, the count of mounte cristo,… Once they are done with those stories, then introduce them the author, dumas who was half black. It may help. Personally, I think the fact you are their teacher, an example in their memory, will go a long way toward racial understanding and harmony.
@@latiendaca1773 Honestly, this is one of the many reasons I left teaching (which I could do for no more than 1 year full-time)-- I prefer to do translation, interpretation, social media etc. Hopefully other teachers will continue to expose their students not just to more black people, but people from all cultures to normalize our very globalized and multi-cultural world.
I know a lot of Chinese people telling me to move there since I am American and I am learning Chinese and I can pass for a White boy (light skinned Puerto Rican)
Discrimination is not identical to racism. I agree both of them are inappropriate. But in China, people are more about discriminative mentality than racism since 95% of the population of China is Han Chinese. China is not like America, Canada, Australia or Europe with that many immigrants. They discriminate outsiders because they don't have knowledge of the outside world.
China is definitely different from other western countries, but it's important to remember that discrimination comes under the umbrella of racism, so it's important to understand the definition of racism that is being used. Thinking that Europe is superior to Africa is in-fact racist by dictionary definition, regardless of how this message was received, or lack of knowledge about these two continents. You can live in a country where culturally you grow up believing men are superior to women, and that would not make you any less sexist just because of less contact with other cultures or outside information. I will say, that people in China do not exhibit this type of behavior because of historical ties to African/black people (like in the US, which is in fact, a pretty racist country), but because of influences of racist propaganda from the West. So, there is a huge difference between being racist (discriminatory) in a hateful way versus an ignorant way. (Though, a lot of hate is based on ignorance as well, so can we really separate these too completely?). In regards to not knowing any better, if you were to ask a Chinese person to 换位思考 regarding discriminatory behavior towards an African/black person, they do realize that such behavior is very negative. So again, even though I too have said a lot of their behavior is rooted in ignorance, that does not make such behavior okay, or something that can be excused. For example, saying--oh well they are not really racist, they just don't understand. They definitely do understand, and it is unfair to reduce most of the population to brainwashed robots incapable of questioning the status quo. The only reason most black/African people in China don't care much about most of the things mentioned in this video (and outside) is because it honestly does not impede our ability to live a comfortable life in China, get a good job or earn a decent wage (which some would argue is the true definition of racism--systematic oppression). Though if we were to be honest about this, most foreigners come to China to teach, and as China is very short-handed when it comes to filling teaching positions, that makes it easy for the average English-speaker to get a job here regardless of ethnicity or nationality (heck, or even of English-speaking ability in some places). So, if the average school had plenty of options to pick from, perhaps this would change? Also, I do want to emphasize that I live in Shanghai. I have heard different stories from friends of mine that live in Guangzhou (being followed around in stores, for example), which is not something I have ever experienced in the time I have been here. Overall, my experiences are quite positive. Knowing about the language and culture also makes a huge difference when it comes to working and living here. There are some quirks China needs to work out regarding such discriminatory behavior, but hopefully these things will change in the near future, especially in cities like Shanghai.
@@user-tj6ot7tw8g so, you just don’t want to accept the fact that some Chinese people are ignorant about racism and uneducated enough to understand the depth of discrimination against people. You’re the greatest example of the ignorant people who need education about racism. If you love that much about your country, please educate yourself and teach people around you to make some changes for good. the way you talk is just being ignorant and rude to her.
You should be proud of yourself I am Chinese Vietnamese American I started to learn mandarin for year learn by listen to music and talk to people I am like ESL mandarin .I feel for you China .China need to change as in America . Don’t be mad but you look black Chinese .
As far as accepting the reality, I’m Chinese and I know based on American standard, Chinese men are not that good looking or attractive. I have to accept the reality. The difference is Chinese are outspoken about how they see you in china while americans all say politically correct things while thinking differently.
I would argue there are aspects of both in China. There are some ignorant comments that are annoying, and there are some comments that are actually hurtful. Racism is ultimately rooted in ignorance, the two go hand in hand. A lot of Americans are very ignorant when it comes to Muslim people and culture, but I wouldn't dismiss some of their behavior towards Muslim people as simply ignorant when it's in fact very racist. It kind of reduces their behavior to being more childlike and innocent, but that's not always the case. Something like thinking there are no black people outside of countries in Africa is ignorant, but thinking that Europeans are superior to Africans is very racist.
@@user-tj6ot7tw8g So funny to seeing your comment that you’re trying to say that majority of them are not racist lol she is talking about her perspective based on her experiences in China as a black woman. Your comment is just seem very rude. That’s the problem. You basically saying ‘we Chinese people don’t take as a racism so don’t hate us’ lol please educate yourself about racism/cultural appropriation etc
What I'm trying to say here is the reason why we are laughing at a person who has dark skin is not because of the color of the skin, is becuase we watched many movie from India which are fanny and comicial，and most of the Indians are in black. And you'll find your list of movies and TV shows about Chinese people dressing up as black people, they more tend to be like an Indian. There is a common sence that some of Indian People are funny(not in good way). We used to called them 印度阿三 to make fun with them that India ranked third globally. Maybe it's kind of racism to Indian people, and i am sorry to say that most of the Chinese people customary to find Indians clownish.
Hopefully people can be re-educated on these topics moving forward. The laughing disturbed me so much to the point that I would think twice before adding any black people in any images in my lectures.
Do you think too much movies and news from the west portraying black is alway bad gotta do with it ? , another reason I can think of (my own opinion ) because china have huge population that have never seen foreigner in their entire live until 20+ years ago , chinese people are curious species lol..
Black people are in for a rude awakening when they leave America and find out that they are the lowest on the totem pole in every country. This is because the Portuguese sold black people into slavery all across the globe. We have come from being there slaves to now ,what? being their equal? It's not going over that big and we're going to run into these things, saddest part is even in African Nations, they have a slick name for us called "akate", this would be because of the images that they're saying on mainstream media in America. We as African Americans in America, have a lot to do to break the cycle of how everyone in every other Nation sees us. The best thing you can do for yourself is what you are already doing which is trying to teach these people that they have the wrong impression about us, they need to stop putting us in a box and treating us like we are a monolith. And we have to control our tempers unfortunately because we have already been judged with that as well. Anyway good luck with your endeavors in China. 💪✌🏽🫶🏼
I will say for the most part in China when dealing with people one on one (in person not online) if you give respect you get respect. Many people here have never interacted with a black person so their first interaction with you will heavily influence what they think about black people. I really dislike being a "model" to break stereotypes, but it is what it is. Learn the language, respect the culture and you'll change a lot of minds. Unfortunately, this won't be the same every where you travel in the world, but we just have to learn to try not to mull on whatever negativity that is thrown out to us because of our color. We can't change it, so why waste the mental energy? A person's attitude about you says more about them than it does about you. Thank you by the way! ❣
I've only seen this phrase "go back to China" on forums and comment sections online. Honestly when I see any video with a black person on Chinese social media I am always hesitant to read the comments. Always see some very nasty ones... Some people really have nothing better to do with their time I guess.
EVERYONE has a viewpoint about someone else's race - whether it is positive or negative. If you think you are not racist in any way, then do the daughter's (or son's) partner test - where your child brings their new partner to dinner and they ain't quite what you have envisaged, because of their race (or colour) . . . We are all racist to a degree.
You can educate yourself out of ignorance. There is no scientific classification for race. Race is a social construct created by white people, so they can hold power. So not everyone is "racist to a degree". It's a choice.
The whole world is just stupid .with time racism and colorism will change once people are tired. Unfortunately we will be judge on something else but for now always be on the side of respecting and loving people, that will never change.Enjoyed your video God bless
If I limited where I lived based on racism/colorism etc my choices would be quite limited. There are some challenges, but you decide how you respond to them. Overall, I don't have many problems living in China--which is why I have been here over 8 years now.
@@thisischaniece there's nothing that makes you more successful than wanting to prove yourself and that is most likely to happen in an environment when you're constantly dealing with certain "pressure" or being comfortable with what's uncomfortable. I'm not saying it's okay to have those bad experiences but you're probably more confident in yourself by now living in China than if you were in Africa
Tell us your personal idea everyone wants info on China other than BBC and FOX. Yes asia is a bit conservative about color. . "But please tell us how is racism in US vs China which country has more racism" is there the "Keren" in China?
@@Dynamicawareness No i dont think that way jumping to conclusion is ok. Racism is very serious thing no such loose definition suits. conservative about color can be ignorance not racism
When you mentioned that you are light skinned, it makes me wonder if amongst African Americans, do African American men generally prefer lighter skin African American females ? Frankly speaking, I find light skinned African women amongst the most beautiful in the world.
This is amazing. ABC in China here and I agree with all of it.
The way I describe it is that too many Chinese people live their lives for status, and the current calculus on status dictates that white people are on top. This also means their views are paramount and all the dog whistling in US/Western media is seen directly through Chinese eyes, so they internalize the performative racism of white people. Internally though, the vast majority don't think black people are inherently poor/low status, which is why your origin country matters a lot.
This is why it is so important for China and Africa to get along and to grow together. China needs to see Africa less through the Western lens and more through the African lens. FOCAC's strategic importance is thus crucial for cultural ignorance to be transformed into cultural understanding rather than cultural intolerance.
China is communist they are a wicked government that is racist. No there will never be good relationship between China and Africa because China only wants the resources in Africa. Chinese go to Africa and act superior to the African people and treat them so bad a lot get deported.
Totally agree with both of you, and the major population of east asian who growed in such mono cultural environment properly would never able to get these points.
a pact with a racist country? Have u seen how Chinese treats Africans in Africa?
Racism is in all countries. Being Black in China wont get you killed unlike in Ameri k k ka George Floyd, Dante Wright, Breanna Taylor , Ahmaud Arbery etc etc.
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#KNOWTHEIRNAMES #60REASENS
'too many Chinese people live their lives for status'
This pretty much describes entire US/western world - which is why advertising so effective in shaping behavior
I am glad you gave a more complete experience/perspective of life in China as a person of color. Very informative.
I tried my best! This video was originally over 25 minutes long so I had to chop it down a lot. There is really so much so say, but hopefully I touched on some of the key points!
I loved it and the editing was good! Thank you for making this!
I have been living and traveling in China since 2013. I am mixed Filipino/White American. I have been denied jobs in China because I don't look "American". I also dread sending my profile pictures to agents because I would get comments like "are you Chinese" or "are you Asian?" One year, I worked part time in training center and a grandmother got mad because she wanted an "American" teaching her grandchild.
Unfortunately I have many friends who were denied apartments because they had darker skin tones.
Once I some performers at international show who American but because of their skin tone they had to perform "African" dances and wear tribal looking outfits.
The worst experience I have seen in China was when I had to attend a safety/welcome conference in Shenzhen. The police officer asked all black skinned people to raise their hand and then he proceeded to say "I want talk about your home land Africa". He then spent an hour ranting about how Africans were dangerous and that they commit the worst crimes.
But I feel like these incidents are getting less and less as time moves on. Yes racism still exists in China but a lot of it deals with ignorance and misunderstanding.
Thank you for sharing your experience!
Yeah, I'm Gen Z and I hope it'll go away once our generation grows older
That "ignorance, not really racism" sentiment -- I very much resonate with that. I spent 1 month in Beijing, and that, that exactly, was my experience.
Glad to hear from others! We have had these discussions in various black groups so much and while we don't want to excuse behavior as "oh they don't know any better" it's definitely a different experience from how some of us may be treated in our home countries.
@@thisischanieceplease give us a list of not racist things bcz u people r really annoying with everything is racist
@@thisischaniecewhat about the Nigerian drug dealer and scammers is it racism again
@@babarAli-kz6vj sorry can you be more clear about the story you’re referring to?
@@thisischaniece never heard of Nigeria scammers I am from Madagascar and I know
Omg I love your videos. I am black and am currently learning Mandarin here in the states. I taught in Shanghai in 2018 for a summer, and made a really great native friend there. So, recently I started to take this Mandarin class, so when we facetime, I can one day speak to him in his native language like how he speaks English to me. I also hopefully will go back to China in the next 1 to 2 years and hopefully stay there for some time. Its a beautiful country!
Keep sharing positive images of and changing their narrative about us!
Will do!
I’m thinking about creating a vegan product soon; so I might reach out to you.
@@thisischaniecechina is so racist but u will not leave just like America is racist but black Americans will not leave
As a local, I'm so sorry about your bad experience in China. The landlord annoyed me a lot as well. Although China has the highest number of tourists in the world, many Chinese have never been to any country. Their knowledge about foreigners is only from some Chinese medium which reported a lot of negative info about black people, and many of them distinguish people's country by the color. My mom still thinks all black people are from Africa or poor areas, as you mentioned. However, it is definitely not racism. It's a kind of stereotype or first impression, that no one will hurt black people on the street. If you talk with people and let them understand you more, they will change their thinking quickly. Hope many people like you spread more truth, and eliminate misunderstandings with each other.
No need to apologize, we will inevitably encounter people like this everywhere nevermind a country with over 1.4 billion people! Overall my experiences are positive and at least in my 10 years here I’ve only seen things get better. There’s still work to do but we can say that about everywhere. I am very thankfully for my friends, colleagues and neighbors who have helped China feel like a second home to me.
I wanna hug so bad that life is hard being diffrent in them 😭 I understand why choose stay there for 8 years ughh i just wish you get all the happiness in this you're pure beautiful human
This is great. I wonder what it’s like being a black man in China. We are depicted as dangerous and violent here in the US so i couldn’t imagine it’s great. Either way, great video. I love how you started it off. Saying how you are different from typical tourist or black people who are in China.
Thanks for the support! I found this pretty well done video with multiple black male perspectives:
ruclips.net/video/RJLkWCBawZs/видео.html
@@thisischaniece wow that’s a great video. It actually seems like the racism in China is better than the racism here in the US. Then again honestly. The racism here in the US historically has been the worst. I haven’t read much on other countries but Jim Crow really did it for us.
@@MakingBigMoves Yea, honestly if you treat people with respect here you get it back. That's always number 1. I have had my Chinese neighbors tell me to stay in China instead of going back to the US because "it's too racist there", lol (referring to George Floyd and BLM protests). You definitely don't need to worry about cops in China as a black person, that is for sure...
It's interesting you mentioned black people are depicted as dangerous and violent in the US culture. I am under the impression that a lot of Chinese people form their views about "foreigners" (including black people) based on the western popular culture they consume, and the stuff they consume is mostly from the US. I wonder if that plays a role in shaping Chinese people's views about black people.
As a Chinese decendent, I was really upset that you had to go through all that. I wish they knew better but it's reality. I'm happy that you've been able to accomplish that much in 8 years. Even though there is a ton of shit with the economy there as of 2022, I hope you find a way out of the crisis.
My mate is black went to China loved it, he said that everyone wanted a photo with him as they dont get to see black people. He said it was the best holiday he ever had
Yeh, I've heard if you're also tall people tend to think you're some kinda Athlete or famous person and want to take a photo.
This was sad to hear but I appreciate your honesty. More people should understand! Hope you and your bf are doing ok in Shanghai!
I am Asian used to live in Asia. I agree with you completely about racism.
Thanks for the support! We are currently in lockdown in Shanghai so maybe I will finally get another video up for you all :)
When I first saw you bring interviewed on the street by Asian Boss, your intelligent words immediately stood out. This channel is really an unbiased, insightful place.
你的解释很准确，见解很深
You need to make more videos. More honest opinions like yours need to be promoted
This is in all Asian countries I’m currently obsessed with Japanese culture I’ve seen a lot of Japanese channels admit that white people are treated better just because there skin is a light skin color and I’ve even heard some of them say having a white wife or husband is an honor that makes me feel bad since I’m an Afro-Latino I’m light skinned but I feel they still might treat me differently a lot of high industry countries in Asia like Japan and China only want people from rich and smart countries like America and Canada they view people like from the Philippines as poor unintelligent I think Asian culture was really influenced by European and white American culture mabye if we had gotten to them first they would think so different of us I don’t exactly blame them for the way they think because they are taught to think this way and also racism exists everywhere of course some people might be racist but u can’t judge a few bad experiences and say a whole country is racist because of it things have change a little with the younger generations since they are more acceptive I hope when I’m old enough and finish college I can move and see China,Japan, South Korea for myself.
@@KAIZENURAMESHI yeah and that’s the reason why white propel are treated better Japanese admire white European men and woman anime proves it why do Japanese not like themselves is what I’ve learned in anime black characters are drawn as racist stereotypes that white people in the Americas in the early 1900’s in old cartoons and the Japanese continue to use it if even seen anime where they made Japanese characters do black face and joke about it and this is newer gen anime as much as I love Japanese culture I hate the colorism I don’t get why someone would prefer a lighter skin tone over a darker I’ve seen actual Japanese speak up about it on RUclips on how dating a white person means your have succeeded in life like what I’ve seen this black girl in Korea this guy gave out umbrellas to all the women accept the black ones and laughed one of those girls had just gotten her hair done I know racism is everywhere but places like Korea China and Japan are mostly made up of the same people little to none foreigners don’t let me start on dating I seen this black girl in Japan on tiktok actually who bleached her skin so people would like her more and want to date her someone shouldn’t have to endanger themselves to harmful bleaching products to get someone to like them a year ago I didn’t know about the colorism and racism of some Asian countries but what I find funny is in western countries Asians are seen as skinny pale white and u probably already know how Asians get made fun of their eyes and the way they talk but this is a good example how racism is everywhere I just don’t get why it exists I think it’s the number 1 problem in the world rn.
@@OutcastYBJ I agree on many levels but you have to understand Asia Japan specifically was destroyed by America so they will obviously bend back for them so that's a no brainer but you can't let that bother you everyone's experience is different I barely experienced racism while I was Japan but I would never live there because of how isolated and depressing it felt there Osaka was nice though
Hi Chaniece. I came to your channel by way of Asian Boss, your comment was thoughtful and I was pleasantly surprised to find you have a YT channel. Thank you for sharing your experiences! I think representation matters a great deal when showing people of different ethnicities. Growing up in the states, most of what I've seen in the media did not properly depict folks of minority groups (which is dangerous because media has its way of reinforcing these lies to people who don't know better) and looking back at it now as an adult, I see now how much racist undertones there were. Please continue to use images of black professionals in your lessons, because children are not born racist, it's something taught and learned.
Can I ask how you maintain your hair in China? I'm also an African american woman and I want to move to China in 2022 with my husband. Finding it difficult to pick a city that could suit me and how difficult it will be to manage since I always have it straightened.
I bring all my hair products from the US (they do have a lot of the ones I use on e-commerce websites here, but they are just very pricy since they are purchased abroad). If you want to get a good stylist for your hair I recommend you stick with bigger cities like Shanghai and Beijing where there is a large black expat community. In Shanghai, for example, we have a group for women and if you need a contact for braiding hair, straightening, makeup, etc...you name it, you can always find someone. I imagine it's the same in Beijing and other large cities. There are also professional hairstylists that can do black hair from what I have heard.
@@thisischaniece I'm also interested in how you got into translation. I have been studying Chinese for 5 years and when I move to China I'll be teaching English. Did you find the transition as a foreigner easy?
@@liyuqi8092 Oh that would have to be a long video haha. But in the most brief way possible, I majored in Chinese, moved here and taught English for a year (it was nearly impossible to find any translation-related jobs right out of college), and then I transitioned into translation after applying for ANY non-teaching job (regardless of the salary) right as I was about to finish my contract. I expected to search for 2 months and it took only 2 weeks for me to find a new job (this was in 2014, but I doubt much has changed). One important thing to remember is that unless you have a high degree in translation, your salary will be much lower than an English teacher, but if you don't mind that it's very easy to find a translation jobs if you pass a simple translation test (start working on your translation now--find Chinese games and start trying to translate it into English for example). Chinese companies really need native English speakers that speak Chinese. I'll make sure to do a video about this because there is so much to say!
@@thisischaniece " I'll make sure to do a video about this because there is so much to say!" Hope you still do, would be interesting/useful for sure.
Loved your comments. Keep up the good work. Was that a scene from the 36 Chambers or Master Killer? Hope to meet you one day when I go out there.
Great video! Quite informative for a native Chinese people like me.
The African "非洲' European "欧洲" thing, to my knowledge, often used in describing ones luck on game lottery/ loot box, comes from something like "people with darker skin color (darker face) are less lucky", guess it also links with how old Western films protrait European and African people, "stereotype".
It started with associating bad luck to black color, which is a cultural thing in China. Then someone linked black to black people, thus now bad luck is linked to Africa. A person with bad luck is an "African tribe leader" 非酋, and a person with good luck is an "European emperor" 欧皇.
@@chriswang6180 Can agree, when my cousin got married, his mom got so angry at a shopkeeper who put a black plastic sheet in front of his house, which is considered very "晦气“.
Everything you’re explaining makes sense but it’s still RACIST
@@SherrainePhillips We don't mean any racism when we say "非"&"欧", but I understand someone might get offended and I respect that
Perhaps a significant chunk of classism and general ripple effect of imperialism too, since the (mostly) white westerners holds the global hegemony and historically did a lot of horrible things in Africa. I'd say it's even less of associating the color black, but more associating Africa as a place that endured hardship, and that Europe as a place of affluence (which really just shows the ugliness of imperialism doesn't it...) hence the "unlucky" and "lucky" association respectively.
I don't understand why some comments say black face means bad luck. Is that a current thing influence by the west? Black face could also mean Iron face (fearless fairness and justice) in traditional Chinese (包拯)；white face could also mean cunning and decfitful (曹操).
You need to do a little more research. Read the history of “black face” in the west. You’ll understand
In fact, I prefer to think that is because of a stereotype formed by cultural differences for thousands of years.Just as “black face” represents bad luck in Chinese culture, it has nothing to do with race. In some movies, black faces are used to create comic effects, but if you observe carefully, white are equally effective. What's more interesting is that black faces represent bravery、bold and forthright in Beijing opera.
Most Chinese people only care about their own lives. In their view, whites and blacks are just foreigners. Moreover, because modern China is committed to overthrowing the theory of ancestry and destiny advocated in ancient times, Chinese people don‘t think that race and destiny are related.
Of course, racists are everywhere, but I think there are only a few “real racists” in China.
Anyway, I sincerely hope there will be fewer things that frustrate you in the future. -by Google Translate
Loved this Chaniece!!
种族歧视不属于中国的传统文化。我们有不同的历史和文化。因此当一个中国人拿种族的刻板印象开玩笑时，并不包含西方社会里种族歧视的那种深深的恶意。
就好比西方媒体一提到棉花采摘，就想到强迫劳动。中国近现代没有发生强迫奴隶采摘棉花的悲惨的经历，所以对于西方炮制出来的“强迫采摘新疆棉花”的说法感到莫名其妙。
中国人对于【强迫劳动】与【种族歧视】这些词不敏感，是因为我们没有关于这类事情的悲惨的历史记忆。请理解文化的差异，拿西方文化独有的东西，套用到中国社会生活里，注定不合适。
Thanks for your comment! I made the distinction between racism/prejudice I have experienced in China vs. how it is different from what I have dealt with in the US in the video. Perhaps the full differences require another video, but this was mostly to highlight the issues black people will encounter while living in China. While these types of issues in China may be different from what is experienced in western countries, it doesn't make the prejudice any more fun to deal with.
@@thisischaniece
某种程度上来说，少数民族在中国的语境里，反而享有特殊地位（更好而不是更差）。比如在朋友聚会的时候，如果得知其中某个朋友是少数民族，大家的内心反应是“啊，真好”，而不是相反。
基于以上这种普遍的文化心理认知，当我们的话题里涉及一些关于种族的刻板印象的时候，常常不能意识到它是一种冒犯--因为在当代中国的社会潮流里，就没有歧视其它民族这种想法。
Love this video so much and feel sorry for your unpleasant experiences in China. Racism is not in the dictionary of elder generations as they spent all life in a single-nation country which happened to own no colonies as sources of immigration. You depicted their ignorance so precisely. Trust me or not, a washing machine changing a Chinese into a white-skinned guy will not bring my mother more pleasure or dismay than one changing a black-skinned guy into a Chinese. It is what it is, though bizzare, I get it. Hopefully, younger generations have more awareness of this issue, but sometimes just don't push Chinese too hard on any thing. We just tend to fend off any pressure from outdoors. Finally, as a bad-looking Chinese, I share your frustration about the existing beauty standard(lol).
Great video!!!❤❤❤❤
About that whole pulling card thing, I think I should explain it a bit further as a Chinese person. First, it's a type of description that was developed in only recent years on the Internet among gamers, especially mobile games with those pulling-cards features. You wouldn't really see that in real life. Second, the meaning is definitely nothing about race, at least originally. In Chinese, 黑 means dark, and when we say 脸黑（face gets dark）, that typically means something serious, unlucky, unfair or ridiculous has happened to you and your whole facial expression has turned dark. And gamers use that a lot, like when you have a 99% chance of hitting that enemy and the result shows that you missed it. And to contrast that, 脸白（white face） became an expression to say that you're really lucky, like you won a 0.001% winning rate on first try, which is also ridiculous. And to make cases even more extreme, netizens/gamers gradually started to use 非酋（African Chieftains） to represent the most unlucky gamers and 欧皇（European Kings） to represent the most lucky gamers, based on the general assumptions that African Chieftains have the deepest skin color and European Kings are the whitest. So the intentions of these expressions are definitely nothing about race. So just like you said, it's more about ignorance instead of racism. This level of this ignorance varies according to the development level of the city, education level of the specific person and past experiences plus general decency of him/her.
Chinese from mainland really praise White people. I don't think they really do know what is actually happening to Asian people in the west. I am a Chinese myself but not from China and I think that black people has their own beauties. Don't feel sad girl. You are really beautiful imo.
Your attitude is amazing. Respect!
Love your video! Btw I just want to say you are SO pretty!!!
I think that your presence in China is very valuable. You are there to hopefully change a lot of misconceptions and educate people. When I think about the world and how I wish it would change here are my top 3s: 1) China awakens to a more humanitarian consciousness (where old outdated beliefs and superstitions are replaced with open minded and educated ones. So that animals aren’t abused and exploited. And people are given greater freedom and acceptance.) 2) peace in the Middle East 3) US would be less divided and racism is a thing of the past.
The animal thing tends to disappear when you go into cities with more educated people. It's the small remote villages where they eat them.
Thank you for sharing your experience. There is definitely racist Chinese people and a lot of them. Really hope people can start realising this problem. About kids laughing at black person pictures, I have the same experience getting laught at when I was in Africa as a Chinese person😂 They literally ran around and call me whiteman. I think this probably just what kids do.
Chaniece! Great video and you just earned a subscriber. You have my admiration and respect. There are not many people who're as courageous as you in telling your experience and expressing how you feel. I feel like I can really relate to you since I share very similar experience with you, except everything about me demographically is completely opposite to you. Obviously I didn't experience something as blatant as some of these lower class employers that you came across, but nonetheless, the experience has allowed me to grow as a person to be more empathetic to others but also more comfortable to who I am.
This really well-made video made me recognized that I would not have been able to grow in that aspect had I not break my comfort zone and made the cross cultural/continent move.
I followed you on Tiktok. And now it’s been over a year since you posted. Could you just comment to let us know you were all right? I don’t want to get you in any trouble. I know things are different in Shanghai China. We’re hearing about all the protests and terrible things going on right now. We hope you’re safe.
i like your video it be dope to build. it sounds like its throw back to the 1920s in the u.s. media wise
Yea some of these videos are not what's up, but there is more and more positive media coverage, especially after black lives matter in the states. They're gettin' there... but racist propaganda from the west has unfortunately made its way into China too.
Great video!! Love it!
Thank you! I appreciate it :)
For years, Chinese/asians have been western media’s/TVs comedy relief.....don’t think it’s changed much. How many leading Asian roles are there in Hollywood unless it’s a Fung fu film.
Yellow face still exists in Hollywood....Emma Stone in “Aloha”.
There isn't much intersection in these two topics, but yes the west has a lot of issues when it comes to dehumanzing non-white people in their media. It's a product of a very racist history.
what is funny is....they some chinese people don't allow looking chinese people who were born in an english speaking country to teach their children english too :U
i can understand her perspective and chinese...... it's like would you travel to china to learn kung fu, but you end up with a white guy teaching you kung fu in china as a Master? it's on youtube, other white people see this and reject him immediately,
actually get pissed that they travel to china and pay money $ to learn kung fu from a white guy when it should be authentic kung fu Master of a Chinese Master............ so the same is with English teacher, the chinese want a white face.
this is the reality...... perception and stereotyping is what the world runs on daily.
You can live inside Shaolin Temple to learn martial art, but expensive. The surrounding areas of Shaolin Temple have a lot of people practice martial arts. They are really good. There are other area of China you can practice martial arts. Most of people in Shanghai and Beijing don't practice martial arts.
You know I know. We've talked about it. Yep...all true. HAHA! Great video! Subscibed!
Oh have we!! I remember back when we had whole panels on this discussion. I think there is a recording of one floating around somewhere. Tried to keep it all the way real. Hope you're doing well and thanks for the sub :)
Thank you for the video. You are beautiful, your smile would light up any room. I found you through Asian Boss. Although I love Shanghai, I will never return because of an attack and the events which transpired afterwards. While in Shanghai, many strangers keep approaching me to take photos with them. I am an attractive black woman, some would call beautiful, (Although I don't think so). This is the thing. I am not the standard beauty. I am dark brown skin, and have a hour glass figure. I know being asked to take photos had nothing to do with me being black others in my group were not ask, who were also African American. My point, Chinese beauty standards are changing? Everyone assumed I was there teaching English, which I was not. They seem to have a very limited view on professional black people as if we don't exist. Finally, when I travel to any Asian country when I tell them, I am African American they are shocked. Can someone please share with me why? Is it because of African American women stereotypes? Is it because they see Americans only being White?
Very sorry to hear about your experience. I am glad you were able to get away from it.
Thank you so much for the compliments, and I am sure you are a very beautiful woman.
Living in China is definitely not for everyone. You will come across MANY repetitive comments, questions and statements based on people's ideas of what Americans are like, what foreigners are like and what black people are like.
In terms of your question, I am not sure I get it completely. Some Chinese people, based on where they grew up, have a very limited understanding of America and don't typically associate America with non-white people. I've come across this before where people would debate among themselves where I was from. It was interesting to hear people say no not necessarily Africa, black people can come from many countries. Though being a homogenous society, they mostly see colors as belonging to distinct countries.
Damn so many thoughts that I haven't put into words myself
As a Chinese I must say. This is so true and sad. Ignorant people are so stupid
gacha游戏里的'非洲人'''欧洲人'叫法并不是说欧洲人好于非洲人，它们只是代表运气，比如你总是抽到一些不好的卡，别人就会叫你'非酋'，这个词是由‘脸黑’一词衍生来的。至于为什么把运气不好说做脸黑，这源于中国的相术，一种古代迷信，在面相里‘印堂发黑’预示着运气不好有灾难要发生，这在小说或者电视剧里经常出现，总而言之，印堂发黑→脸黑→非酋，这只是词汇经过网络文化的衍变，这些词汇确实很蠢，但绝对不是种族歧视。
So do you think that all of this representation of the color black and dark won’t reflect as negative representation on people who are actually that color through racism?
Great insights and love your positive vibes... 🤗
Jesus love you, he died on the cross for you, accept him as your lord and savior he can change everything. For God so loved the world that he gave his only son, so that everyone who believes in him may not perish but may have eternal life" (Jn 3:16"
But you must repent too. From that time Jesus went about preaching and saying, Let your hearts be turned from sin, for the kingdom of heaven is near. (Matthew 4:17).
No
White Jesus not black jesus
Damn preachers.
I'm not sure if anyone has asked before but how did you learn chinese? Perhaps someone in your family is chinese or did you just natrually learn it as you have been there for 8 years. I find language learning very fun and exciting and i would love it if you could make a video about your language learning experience!
i know this comment is old but she mentioned that she majored in chinese in college in another comment thread :]
Videos like these are so interesting to me! I would love to see more videos about cultural difference or culture shocks you experienced living in China.
Kudos to you girl.
Thanks
The capital talks. Though censored, majority of movies, and TV dramas made now does not fit the socialism value. Many hardcore leftists show strong opinions on those west-centered cultural products as it does not help to build the socialistic culture. Some products depicts the first 30 years are all wrong, some depicts the second 30 years are all wrong, while some depicts both are wrong. The racism is an imported thing after the reform and open policy (second 30 years), and westernization. However, it has been reversing back gradually.
Yes, definitely something imported from the west. Hopefully we can see a full reversal in the near future.
Eight years in China ? Wow you look young like a fresh graduate early twenties.
Love ur vids and ur tiktok as well. Hopefully things ease up in Shanghai soon! BUT I just think u should kno, there is someone here on youtube who is slandering your name. His channel is called "Splash Wave Beats" and the vid is titled "Blk men need to set a global beauty stndard for women" its at 2h22m30sec
Thanks for the video. I am from Shanghai, live in US now. I saw black people here and there in Shanghai, never talked to them. There is black professional lady lives next to my father's building. I saw her a few times. Thank you for sharing your story and perspectives.
Yea, we are definitely out here! People always ask me if there are black people in Shanghai and I am just like there is a whole presence of us for sure. Thank you for watching! :)
@@thisischaniece , good to hear that. Most people don't know black people very well in China. They get second hand information from TV and internet. Hope more black people go to China to visit and live, interact with Chinese people. I learn a lot of black culture from leaning Afro-Cuban dance. It's the biggest joy in my life to dance.
@@Fordance100 That's fascinating! Glad you have found a way to connect more with Black/African culture. I agree that the best way to deal with a lot of these misconceptions is to just interact with people in China more. I even have known Korean people I met here in China tell me that basic interactions with me and other black people changed their views. I think the more interaction, the more people realize we are all just the same minus skin tone and cultural differences.
I just started to follow your vlogs and saw this.
This much I can say that how kids laughing at certain “black” acts came about. They got it from their parents and/or grandparents, who learned it from earlier Hollywood. Especially the earlier, I meant, 50’s 60’s, like laugh-ins, sammy davis jr,,,.
Kinda like, here in US, in earlier days, people would see Chinese and say “chingching chungchung”, or mimic kungfu, or⋯⋯. Those were people, ignorant, but not nasty. Boy I miss them, nowadays, after “kungflu”, Asians get spit on, pushed, hit,,,,.
Personally, I would separate, those words associated with physical harms done upon, as opposed to harms done upon and can only returning with words. Another way to see it; the hunters’ words like “chink” vs the hunted s’ words like “鬼老”, “鬼子”… Racial, yes, racism, ⋯⋯ just saying⋯⋯
Yes, of course it stems from the way they were raised and what they have been exposed to. I was quite surprised by it at first--like I really did not understand the laughing. I would try to find the most professional neutral looking photos but to no avail. I decided to show more pictures of black people to students rather than less. If seeing black people is not normalized...it needs to be. I think it's just more shocking when you deal with as a well...black person who teaches students who appear to respect you as a person only to see kind of see this ugly side of humanity in response to just seeing an image of a black person.
In the states I grew up with hearing people saying that mocking phrase to people of East Asian descent quite often, even when I was in college. Was always very disgusting to deal with. A lot of this is hateful, ignorance and miseducation.
I will say in the states dealing with racism can be much more scary (fearing for your safety or fear of being attacked), and in China it's usually just annoying.
@thisischaniece,
Suggestion, kids love stories like, three musketeers, the count of mounte cristo,… Once they are done with those stories, then introduce them the author, dumas who was half black. It may help.
Personally, I think the fact you are their teacher, an example in their memory, will go a long way toward racial understanding and harmony.
@@latiendaca1773 Honestly, this is one of the many reasons I left teaching (which I could do for no more than 1 year full-time)-- I prefer to do translation, interpretation, social media etc. Hopefully other teachers will continue to expose their students not just to more black people, but people from all cultures to normalize our very globalized and multi-cultural world.
@thisischaniece,
Understand, understand and I’ll prey for wherever you are heading.
Great video! 3 days of editing worth it 😎
Thanks!!! 😍
yo why she stopped uploading?
Im sad to say, but you are probably already being flagged for speaking the truth
I know a lot of Chinese people telling me to move there since I am American and I am learning Chinese and I can pass for a White boy (light skinned Puerto Rican)
What an effed up comment
Discrimination is not identical to racism. I agree both of them are inappropriate. But in China, people are more about discriminative mentality than racism since 95% of the population of China is Han Chinese. China is not like America, Canada, Australia or Europe with that many immigrants. They discriminate outsiders because they don't have knowledge of the outside world.
China is definitely different from other western countries, but it's important to remember that discrimination comes under the umbrella of racism, so it's important to understand the definition of racism that is being used.
Thinking that Europe is superior to Africa is in-fact racist by dictionary definition, regardless of how this message was received, or lack of knowledge about these two continents. You can live in a country where culturally you grow up believing men are superior to women, and that would not make you any less sexist just because of less contact with other cultures or outside information.
I will say, that people in China do not exhibit this type of behavior because of historical ties to African/black people (like in the US, which is in fact, a pretty racist country), but because of influences of racist propaganda from the West. So, there is a huge difference between being racist (discriminatory) in a hateful way versus an ignorant way. (Though, a lot of hate is based on ignorance as well, so can we really separate these too completely?).
In regards to not knowing any better, if you were to ask a Chinese person to 换位思考 regarding discriminatory behavior towards an African/black person, they do realize that such behavior is very negative. So again, even though I too have said a lot of their behavior is rooted in ignorance, that does not make such behavior okay, or something that can be excused. For example, saying--oh well they are not really racist, they just don't understand. They definitely do understand, and it is unfair to reduce most of the population to brainwashed robots incapable of questioning the status quo.
The only reason most black/African people in China don't care much about most of the things mentioned in this video (and outside) is because it honestly does not impede our ability to live a comfortable life in China, get a good job or earn a decent wage (which some would argue is the true definition of racism--systematic oppression). Though if we were to be honest about this, most foreigners come to China to teach, and as China is very short-handed when it comes to filling teaching positions, that makes it easy for the average English-speaker to get a job here regardless of ethnicity or nationality (heck, or even of English-speaking ability in some places). So, if the average school had plenty of options to pick from, perhaps this would change?
Also, I do want to emphasize that I live in Shanghai. I have heard different stories from friends of mine that live in Guangzhou (being followed around in stores, for example), which is not something I have ever experienced in the time I have been here.
Overall, my experiences are quite positive. Knowing about the language and culture also makes a huge difference when it comes to working and living here. There are some quirks China needs to work out regarding such discriminatory behavior, but hopefully these things will change in the near future, especially in cities like Shanghai.
@@thisischaniece wow. I like your essay... and I am reading it 😅
Calling black people monkeys is racist
@@user-tj6ot7tw8g so, you just don’t want to accept the fact that some Chinese people are ignorant about racism and uneducated enough to understand the depth of discrimination against people. You’re the greatest example of the ignorant people who need education about racism. If you love that much about your country, please educate yourself and teach people around you to make some changes for good. the way you talk is just being ignorant and rude to her.
@@sopsjcsjskfjxndks Discrimination has many forms such as colorism, genders etc. Racism is purely about race.
我们都被美国的媒体影响了，但是实际上我们通过人的行为，而不是肤色评价一个人，向你在中国遇到的不愉快道歉
This is a white world Job 9:24 ...until Christ a black man comes back
可否加上中文字幕~
You should be proud of yourself I am Chinese Vietnamese American I started to learn mandarin for year learn by listen to music and talk to people I am like ESL mandarin .I feel for you China .China need to change as in America . Don’t be mad but you look black Chinese .
As far as accepting the reality, I’m Chinese and I know based on American standard, Chinese men are not that good looking or attractive. I have to accept the reality. The difference is Chinese are outspoken about how they see you in china while americans all say politically correct things while thinking differently.
White tokenism is not just annoying...
That is called ignorance, but not racism.
I would argue there are aspects of both in China. There are some ignorant comments that are annoying, and there are some comments that are actually hurtful. Racism is ultimately rooted in ignorance, the two go hand in hand. A lot of Americans are very ignorant when it comes to Muslim people and culture, but I wouldn't dismiss some of their behavior towards Muslim people as simply ignorant when it's in fact very racist. It kind of reduces their behavior to being more childlike and innocent, but that's not always the case. Something like thinking there are no black people outside of countries in Africa is ignorant, but thinking that Europeans are superior to Africans is very racist.
@@thisischaniece I am not denying the existence of racism in China. I just feel majority Chinese are not racism people.
It is racism
@@user-tj6ot7tw8g So funny to seeing your comment that you’re trying to say that majority of them are not racist lol she is talking about her perspective based on her experiences in China as a black woman. Your comment is just seem very rude. That’s the problem. You basically saying ‘we Chinese people don’t take as a racism so don’t hate us’ lol please educate yourself about racism/cultural appropriation etc
@@sopsjcsjskfjxndks 40 years ago ..
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What I'm trying to say here is the reason why we are laughing at a person who has dark skin is not because of the color of the skin, is becuase we watched many movie from India which are fanny and comicial，and most of the Indians are in black. And you'll find your list of movies and TV shows about Chinese people dressing up as black people, they more tend to be like an Indian. There is a common sence that some of Indian People are funny(not in good way). We used to called them 印度阿三 to make fun with them that India ranked third globally. Maybe it's kind of racism to Indian people, and i am sorry to say that most of the Chinese people customary to find Indians clownish.
Hopefully people can be re-educated on these topics moving forward. The laughing disturbed me so much to the point that I would think twice before adding any black people in any images in my lectures.
Fun Edits, interesting topic, scary how much money runs society and mindsets. :D
Seriously, imagine how different things would be if money wasn't a factor 🤔. Nice hearing from you btw! Been a while.
Do not worry about the silly racism of Chinese. They do not know anything deep about racism. Deep down they are kind and nice.
Do you think too much movies and news from the west portraying black is alway bad gotta do with it ? , another reason I can think of (my own opinion )
because china have huge population that have never seen foreigner in their entire live until 20+ years ago , chinese people are curious species lol..
中国自古以来就是单一族群国家，没有人种概念，很多人是厘不清国家与人种之间的关系的，因此很多人把白人就囫囵地叫西方人，把黑人囫囵地叫非洲人，关于歧视，事实上是部分在中国非洲人的不端行为放大和加深了中国人对非洲的不好印象，比如一部分黑人在中国不遵守中国习惯，道德规范，就像出国旅游的中国人的一些不良行为也给当地人留下不好印象，进而使他们对整个中国都没有好的印象一样
Black people are in for a rude awakening when they leave America and find out that they are the lowest on the totem pole in every country. This is because the Portuguese sold black people into slavery all across the globe. We have come from being there slaves to now ,what? being their equal? It's not going over that big and we're going to run into these things, saddest part is even in African Nations, they have a slick name for us called "akate", this would be because of the images that they're saying on mainstream media in America.
We as African Americans in America, have a lot to do to break the cycle of how everyone in every other Nation sees us. The best thing you can do for yourself is what you are already doing which is trying to teach these people that they have the wrong impression about us, they need to stop putting us in a box and treating us like we are a monolith. And we have to control our tempers unfortunately because we have already been judged with that as well.
Anyway good luck with your endeavors in China. 💪✌🏽🫶🏼
I will say for the most part in China when dealing with people one on one (in person not online) if you give respect you get respect. Many people here have never interacted with a black person so their first interaction with you will heavily influence what they think about black people. I really dislike being a "model" to break stereotypes, but it is what it is. Learn the language, respect the culture and you'll change a lot of minds. Unfortunately, this won't be the same every where you travel in the world, but we just have to learn to try not to mull on whatever negativity that is thrown out to us because of our color. We can't change it, so why waste the mental energy? A person's attitude about you says more about them than it does about you.
Thank you by the way! ❣
Just checking on you and your husband! Are yall ok?
Chinese was concerned about you teaching their children hip hop English lmfao
Is it a generational thing Or are also the young generations racist in China?
Some Chinese maybe very curious or ignorant about foreigners. But they will never say sth. Like "go back where you from".
I've only seen this phrase "go back to China" on forums and comment sections online. Honestly when I see any video with a black person on Chinese social media I am always hesitant to read the comments. Always see some very nasty ones... Some people really have nothing better to do with their time I guess.
@@thisischaniece probably the nasty comments mostly were from anti-China haters. They pretend to be Chinese to spread hate.
That's something people in America say all the time. Their brains are too small to say this one same thing all the time. It gets old.
They always say that😂
中国人对一个人的看法取决于此人的行为而并非其种族，但当某个种族的人经常做出不受待见或违法的事情时，大众就会不可避免的对该种族形成刻板印象。
There are white people that are praised for literally doing nothing. So that’s false
Quite stupid though because other races don’t do that, even if a Chinese kills we won’t generalize and hate all Chinese because of one person 😂
EVERYONE has a viewpoint about someone else's race - whether it is positive or negative.
If you think you are not racist in any way, then do the daughter's (or son's) partner test - where your child brings their new partner to dinner and they ain't quite what you have envisaged, because of their race (or colour) . . .
We are all racist to a degree.
You can educate yourself out of ignorance.
There is no scientific classification for race. Race is a social construct created by white people, so they can hold power. So not everyone is "racist to a degree". It's a choice.
The whole world is just stupid .with time racism and colorism will change once people are tired. Unfortunately we will be judge on something else but for now always be on the side of respecting and loving people, that will never change.Enjoyed your video God bless
Thanks! Yes, I do have some hope that future generations will help to resolve these issues. For now, it's more about how you respond to them I guess.
Why go to China? Why not Africa? No racism
If I limited where I lived based on racism/colorism etc my choices would be quite limited. There are some challenges, but you decide how you respond to them. Overall, I don't have many problems living in China--which is why I have been here over 8 years now.
@@thisischaniece there's nothing that makes you more successful than wanting to prove yourself and that is most likely to happen in an environment when you're constantly dealing with certain "pressure" or being comfortable with what's uncomfortable. I'm not saying it's okay to have those bad experiences but you're probably more confident in yourself by now living in China than if you were in Africa
No racism? What the french, the american, the spaniard, the UN troops are doing in Africa if there is no racism.
Go to someone else country and complain about their people. Go home man. Africa is a big continent, Pick a place.
@@Herosade I'm in Africa, Bazaruto and i see many pinks all over here and i wonder the same as you.
Tell us your personal idea everyone wants info on China other than BBC and FOX. Yes asia is a bit conservative about color. .
"But please tell us how is racism in US vs China which country has more racism" is there the "Keren" in China?
A bit conservative about color is another word for racist 🥴
@@Dynamicawareness No i dont think that way jumping to conclusion is ok. Racism is very serious thing no such loose definition suits.
conservative about color can be ignorance not racism
@@ゲリンWhy do y’all always use ignorance as a defense for racism when Asians clearly have negative feelings towards darker skinned individuals.
Are you sure you're black? LOL. I thought that was funny because I also would get that from people.
When you mentioned that you are light skinned, it makes me wonder if amongst African Americans, do African American men generally prefer lighter skin African American females ?
Frankly speaking, I find light skinned African women amongst the most beautiful in the world.
The men that do prefer light skinned call it a preference but it’s mainly tied to colorism and racism and how dark skinned is viewed
很负责任的说，是，中国人普遍都种族歧视
？？？我不知道你在说什么，在宁波工程学院之前，中国人普遍来讲几乎对于种族歧视都没有什么概念，在我的学校里有回族人、维吾尔族人、朝鲜族人、蒙古族人还有很多别的少数民族的人，但是大家对于少数民族的身份都没有什么敏感的地方在，民族在中国还没有地域歧视敏感。
但是宁波工程学院之后，很多中国人被扣上了种族歧视的帽子，但是有一说一，种族歧视是在歧视肤色，但我们歧视的是行为，这不能算种族歧视好吧
White perople??? Some Chinese are whiter.... no freckles and smooth and beautiful