John doe Moto yepp but he will always be remembered through his wealth of knowledge on firearms, I learn something new from him almost everyday RIP Barry
Yup....10 "window breakers" with layers attached to each one. Prosecutor -"So you discharged your weapon at the scene of a car accident???" "Alpha" male jackass-"Bet ur fuckin ass bitch....MURICA" Prosecutor -"Expedite to Texas for execution immediately..." Crowd - *fuck tons of applause*
I'll take an AR-15 with a simple red dot sight and a BIS. Next is my Winchester 1300 Defender (no gadgets) and my Glock (also no gadgets). The AR because I trained and deployed with that platform and the other two because they're simple to operate.
Thank you guys for telling it like it is. It is about time someone did. I decided to quit my membershio in an indoor range because of so many young folks coming in with way too tricked AR's, then handing them to their "dates" so they can sweep the range.
When it comes to gadgets I think it really depends on what the gadget is and what you're trying to accomplish with it. For example, there's nothing wrong with a scope, BUIS, a suppressor, quad rail, sling and T-Pod on an AR if you're trying to build a rifle that's fantastic for hunting coyotes or bench shooting for max accuracy. If you're just tricking the gun out to trick out and have it draw attention, then that's kind of a waste of money but if you have an articulable goal and your gadgets move you towards that, more power to you.
Heck yeah! I really like my old Rossi 92 in .357mag. I got it used for $150, and its in beautiful condition. I also reload for .357, but even for someone who doesn't reload, there is MUCH versatility with that type of rifle.
I can't say I agree with all the ideas these guys are talking about. .22 LR is NOT plentiful anymore but that may change. I find the AK-47 rather practical, or the AKM. Plenty of punch, tougher than nails and reliable in the extreme. In a defensive situation, if I have to shoot over 300 yards, I'm not going to bother taking the shot (not a defensive one). Can't see much farther than that unaided anyway. Others may beed long range capability, but I can't see use for it where I live. No LOS past 300 yards. There's nothing wrong with your basic stripped down iron sighted AR-15 either. THAT'S practical. Parts are everywhere, not that you'd need them often. I agree that a rifle with its butt stock cut off is not practical. That's a blaster toy. You can't aim nearly as well with the stock missing at long range, and if you are at short range, you're better off with a handy pistol if you want to talk PRACTICAL. As for pistols, personal choice rules. Most ammo calibers are common enough to get, but what matters is that you are comfortable with your pistol and its operations so you can have a decent CHANCE at hitting something when your adrenaline is making your brain scream and your muscles tight and slow.
In my opinion, if your engagement distances are 100 yards plus you would be better served with a 30 cal rifle cartridge, which is why I'm an AK guy( I think the AR and AK are both 300 yard guns), accuracy on 223 is pretty useless past 300 yards.
+dreyrugr max affective engagement range for 5.56 out of an AR patter rifle is 800m. I can accurately engage at 500m. 7.62x39 out of an AK style rifle has a max affective range of 300m
+Kennie Montano due to my bad eye sight i usually need a good sight for longer ranges but there is nothing that i love more than taking out those old bolt action rifles and nailing targets at 100 yards with iron sights
@Judson Joist I'm all for backup irons, but pretty much every red dot on the market will last 3 years without ever being powered off. And the high-end red dots will last 5+ years if you "forget" to shut them off every single time you ever use it. If you can't afford or conjure up a new battery every few years, you're in the wrong hobby. Some magazines won't even remain serviceable that long if you keep them loaded.
I have to disagree with one of Barry's statements, just because you could kill a large game animal with a .22, doesn't mean you should. The reason we use large caliber rifles for large game is to kill the animal as quickly as possible. Seeing animals that were shot with an illegal caliber or poor shot placement makes me feel physically Ill.
With a 22 you pop it in the head. .22 caliber has enough to penetrate the skull, but not enough to exit really. That's why the .22 is such a deadly caliber, it will penetrate the skull, then bounce around inside, it would definitely kill the animal fast, you just have to be a halfway decent shot.
Much to my amazement, my father-in-law (a full blood Indian )can (and has!) Take a deer with a single .22lr round. He paralyzed it with a neck shot and I slit its throat with my hunting knife .
the cz 75 sp-01 like the one you had the "dust boot" and "bayonet" attached is a extremely practical gun, only the attachments are impractical. the "tactical" model that comes stock with night sites would be my first choice if i could only have one handgun, they are extremely accurate, and reliable. have to agree with the m1a, there even better with the addition of the sage ebr stock.
A quality light, a good red dot sight and mybe a foregrip is all I need on my ar15. I do have a bayonet that will fit it but that's only bc I'm into knives too. I cannot imagine ever needing it at the end of my rifle
I think when the tactical people look at an M1 Garand they see an old, primitive, outdated rifle; it "Looks underwhelming". I don't see that when I look at an M1, I see a rifle that helped to end humanity's darkest hour. A rifle that has reliably and effectively served a great number of American soldiers who crossed into North Africa, Italy, Normandy and the islands near Japan. The linseed oil finish wooden stock is natural and strong, reliable. Steel is used throughout the design, in a time where such resources were more readily available. An M1 feels real to me, a real gun which served a generation of real men. I'll go for that look any day of the week.
i see an M1 grand and think holy crap there are (8? not sure) rounds of 30-06 that dont really care whats in the way. and they are awesome from a historic aspect as well
Wow what an old video, good to see people still commenting here. I have a Mini 14 Ive had since 1985, and its a great gun. The old wood stock, pre ranch rifle. Those didnt have scope dovetails and you had to get a special scope mount for them. Its also top eject , so sometimes that causes problems with the brass hitting the scope. It shoots 1&1/2 to 2 inch groups at 100 yards, and is plenty accurate for coyotes out to 200 yards.It was $ 365 dollars at a Big box store then. My wife at the time bought it for me, and I say its the only good thing to came from that marrage lol . I now have a few more guns but I still love that little rifle.
The rifles they're talking about that require assembly are extremely practical because they can broken down into simple sections for easy storage and you don't have to worry about losing parts. A rifle generally has better range and accuracy than a pistol, but usually is too big to fit into a backpack. The 10 22 Takedown can be put into a backpack and you won't have to worry about it's length snagging or falling over. The Marlin Papoose is the same, as is the AR7 Survival rifle.
Make sure the feed ramp is good and clean. Really tough Gunk will Build up on it and set the angle of the round up a little high so every time it pulls a new round towards the hole it hits high right over the top of it causing a jam..Usually if the ramp is clean and the extractor pins are working, you pull the bolt back and let it slam home it should work fine there is very little that can actually break inside the gun so I suspect it's gunk on the feed ramp....( I may be wrong tho)
@@gifthorse3675 A gun's aesthetics mean nothing compared to its reliability and being to do its job efficiently, as well as its practicality. If that makes me "boring", then so be it.
I own two rifles I enjoy immensely which is the Ruger Mini-14 Tactical and the Ruger PC Carbine in 9mm which is a break down take down gun that can fit in a back pack style bag in seconds and shoots 9mm. Very happy with the things available out there for people to use.
Well. I understand that there is a point where accessories become ridiculous, but I'd have no problem with Some you know, non-standard optics, a nice light, and maybe a folding stock. They may seem a bit excessive at first, but I think it's a nice touch to be able to stay steadier and still have the light, or the option to fold down the stock for carrying in a bag or a smaller space. Optics with weaver rails require a re-sight if you take them off, but I think those clip on/off setups are good.
i prefer simplicity also, my ar15 has round handguards, a carry handle, and a basic 6 position stock, i also have the rail you can attach to the carry handle for scopes and sights if i ever want to use one
I totally agree with all of that, keep it simple or at least practical.I have a ruger 10/22 with an ATI folding stock, i bought it like that , it didnt came with the wooden one but its ok,i have a 235 lumens genesis flashlight on it, a bipod that i can remove super fast if needed,and a quick detach sling, also a bushnell trophy xlt scope ,its a little bit much but its still practical and easy to disasemble,i did the auto bolt release so its ready faster and a poly bolt buffer, and 30 round mags.
Not sure that the .22lr is a good idea for deer. Yeah it might work but not an ethical round for the job. Rather a more practical round like the .410, 20 gage or 12gauge. Though thats just me.
Rimfire not legal for white man. Indian take deer with 1 .22lr round (my full blood father in law). Paralyzed it with neck shot. Dispatched with large hunting knife.
@@rickstewart1904 bro I'm in an Indian and a hunter the most Indian people in my tribe are literate and can talk like normal people instead of the stereotypical cowboy movie Indian also a large round is fine to hunt with unless you're a shit shot aim for the head or spinal cord and all of the meat will literally be fine
FUNNY how these guys keep promoting AR-15's, M-14's, M-1 Garands, AK-47's and various other military weapons. Back in the 1960's, you could buy any number of WW2 surplus rifles from InterArmCo (mail order !) for $10 - $100, depending on condition and quality. That included M-1 Garands and M-1 Carbines. Now, the least expensive military guns available are Moisin-Nagant 7.62 bolt actions, running $100-$150 (sold for $15 in 1960). Talk about inflation ! AND THE NEWER GUNS ? Don't even think about them, unless you're willing to fork over close to $1000 cash money !
Practical is a point of view. Your attachments depend on what you're doing with the weapon. If you're planning on shooting at night that bare bones M1A isn't gonna do shit when you can't see the target. Vertical grip and bipods are definitely personal preference and situational dependent. Do you need them? Maybe not, but there's no use talking shit about them when someone has it on their weapon and they actually use it. Just because you don't use them doesn't mean they don't serve a purpose.
As a rule of thumb, if a shotgun barrel accepts chokes, it is not meant for slugs. Chokes are for differing the pattern of shot. One needs either a rifled barrel (with rifling grooves already machined in) or a smooth slug barrel, which would use actual slugs which themselves are rifled (rifled slugs). You may use Sabot slugs in rifled barrels, but not in smooth slug barrels, because they lose their accuracy. Barrels must be pressure-tested for slugs at the factory. Check the manual first!
Im definitely a practical guy and I agree that the M1A with a fiberglass stock is my all time favorite weapon. I've had everything from HK 91s, valmets, uzis, AK 47s, just about every AR15 made, and also just about every combat shotgun or pistol that's ever been made. Today I have my S&W M and P sport 2, a 20 gauge mossberg Shockwave, a 12 gauge maverick folding stock, and a ruger American ranch 350 legend. The only thing I lack is a ruger 10 22. I consider myself ready for any scenario from tactical, short-range, to long range. I will buy more, because at one time I had almost $30,000 worth of guns, pistols, shotguns, and assault rifles, pistol caliber carbines, and battle rifles, but I feel confident i could confront any scenario, as well as put food on the table with the few i currently have.
A 22 is basically paper in a printer. It's a must have for any occasion. Me at 14 was able to get 25 rounds down range in little under 5 seconds. It's fun to shoot and decent for home defense
I would just like to say: No, you do not NEED gadgets, and yes, a lot of them are silly, but a lot of gadgets are very useful and make dispatching unfriendlies easier. Speaking as one who has seen combat, I like a good iron sights, foregrip, a light/laser if it's dark, and sliding (NOT FOLDING) stock. That's all you need. Yes, you can be very effective with a basic rifle, but the little things can help, and when it's life and death, every little thing matters. BTW, great video.
I actually almost immigrated to the US to TN, but it didn't work out with my now ex wife. So I live in AUS where we can own most guns but not semi rifles. I have a CZ75B in 9mm and think I might go a henry in .22 as another post suggested. I have bolt guns in .308 and .223. So the henry would fill the middle gap nicely. Thanks for your comment.
I have an XCR-L Scope, Iron sights, AFG A VG, forward sling loop and hand grip rail covers. Nothing els. My bi pod is my pack or a branch on a tree. Even my dog that is trained to lay still. No lights or red dot side mounts, no lasers or fidget spinners. No mag clamps or any of the. Granted I do have a folding stock that only gets folded when the rifle is in one of my hard cases I only use when traveling. I do have a very tactical shotgun but it is more a gunsafe queen. And yes my M14 has a scope and bi pod so I can take it out to real distances well.
When I cleaned the Marlin a little over a year ago it was working fine. I took the trigger job assembly out but kept it fully assembled. Somehow some of the E clips on the side popped out and the whole thing disintegrated in my hands. I spent several hours trying to fix it with no luck so I had to take it to a gunsmith. After they reassembled it I started getting that jamming problem.
Yes, I'm looking for a practical weapon for killing zombies. I'm definitely more of a 30 caliber man. So a .223 just won't do.....22 rimfire? Perfect!!
i've had a 10/22 for nearly 20 years now. It's seen well over 20k rounds and only been cleaned twice, and it's never jammed in all that time. Still damn accurate too. Everybody that enjoys guns should have a 10/22. Super fun, reliable, cheap to feed and will likely outlast you. What more can you ask for $250? (if they even cost that much!)
AR - 10/22 lol ! Poor Mans AR-15 ! The 10/22 is WAY overrated. I do own 2 highly modified 10\22s. Great for cheap plinking. Fun to learn and tinker with. Don't go John Rambo with it...Just don't :-\
I proudly own a Maverick 88 field-variant pump shotgun, unmodified as of my current typing. It's a fantastic gun in its own right, but could use a few improvements. I intend to use my shotty for a variety of purposes, and for that, I could use some shiny new parts. For example, a top-mounted accessory rail for a sight (tuned for slug rounds), an adjustable folding stock, a 24" accu-choke barrel, and a new pump with rails for a flashlight (and new action rails in case I want a foregrip, too). Yes, a practical gun is adequate for most anything you might need it for, but some people want more flash and bang, so they put out extra cash to go tactical, or "tacticool" if you want to call it that. It's their decision, and I've made mine.
Recommending .22 LR for use in defense at 300 yards is irresponsible. At that range, .22 LR is producing scarcely more than 50 joules of energy, and likely would not penetrate deeply enough to reach the vital organs of a man. It does not even come close to the old military recommendation that a fragment or projectile should produce at least 58 ft-lbs (79 J) of energy to reliably cause a casualty. Frankly, it's bizarre that one would dismiss the .223 Remington round, and then without skipping a beat recommend something so inadequate for self defense at range as .22 LR.
That would require expecting 0.3 MOA or less out of a stock Ruger 10/22 and the shooter, under the stress of a life-and-death situation. Time to give this up. The Ruger 10/22 is not a "quite effective" self-defense weapon at 300 yards.
It has gross amounts of stopping power round for round as opposed to a m9 with a 9mm round that may take 5 shots to bring a man down. The 1911 feels good in the hand as it is thinner and it still has a quickly removable mag
Some people like Glocks and XD's because you can get lots of little things like flashlight, lasers, huge capacity magazines, rail mounts so you put red dots, etc. I like Revolvers because every time I pull the trigger and the next chamber has a loaded round, it goes bang. Simplicity is tactical.
Says he’s a 30 caliber guy and doesn’t buy into .223 then proceeds to praise the 10/22 as the best rifle in the world which can take down large game and is even a viable option for defense. I like a Ruger but I lost a lot of respect for this ignorance. So you prefer 30 caliber and don’t like .223 because it’s not as good as 30 but a .22 lr is? 30-06 is a great round, is .223 worthless compared to it? Absolutely not. Is .22 lr worthless? Absolutely not? Is .22 lr more than suitable for taking down an elk and and is the be all end all of rifles? Absolutely not. Every caliber has its advantages and disadvantages. .22 lr is a horrible choice for large game and 30 caliber is horrible for squirrels. There is no such thing as “the best rifle”. Only which rifle is best for which situation. I generally like these videos and find them informative but this raises some red flags just as these guys made me think before that all pawn shop gun counter employees were not know it all commandos just trying to sell with false information.
Do any of you want to adobt a 40 years olde Danish Boy? I can't even have a pocketknife on me! To hell with Socialismen! Im a viking and can't owen a gun! PLEAS SAVE ME!
nalajepper I love my Clock 22 and I am going to clock 17 or 19 soon I own a lot of guns from 410,s to 12gage to 22,s to clock'22 I love all make,s and model,s
The Vikings succumbed to Free Trim in the 1960s. Truly, birth control pills and women thinking they can be sexually free is the problem. Men want to conquer the World and women want houses and babies. Whether men and women ever admit it to themselves is another matter. Turn the Electricity, water and gasoline off for 3 months and see what happens. Given the scenarios in hurricane areas, as we have seen, reality gets real thin. If you aren't prepared for 2 to 3 months for your family, you are in risk. And KEEP your mouth shut. Aqua Rain water purification counter top canister, tygon and nalgene bottles, dry ice, charcoal grill. Arms, Attitude, Gas, Ass.
Well having a flashlight on your gun is actually quite practical. It blinds your target, helps identify the target, and if you aim with the center of the light, it helps if you happen to be hip firing(not sure why you would be but it helps).
I've had 3 Ruger BX-25's and all of them FTF issues, after playing with them for a day or so i junked em and went with butler creeks, havent had a problem since.
Heck yeah, My first Gun ( I am 16) is a Mosin Nagant made at the Izmash arsenal in Izhevsk in 1942. I've used it to pierce armor, kill deer, and it is one of the best rifles in my my house. For $117.05 with gun, starter kit, 20 rounds, it is THE best buy for the money in America
I have the 597 with factory scope. Have put approx 300 rounds thorugh it without any failures. Extremely accurate. The only thing I dislike about it is the lack of iron sights on mine and lack of accssories. As Id love to have a folding stock. Either would give you a lifetime of service.
Getting a 10/22 tactical model and getting an AR-like frame with collapsing stock and low mag and high mag scopes as well as some highcap mags, maybe a flashlight as well, that'll be my gun. Best victory is the one you don't even have to fire a single shot to achieve but you'd better be ready to shoot if need be.
Also there is nothing wrong with having effective and useful accessories, as long as you understand what they are for, know how to use them effectively, train and practice with them and understand their limits.
Good info. Ruger 10/22, M1 Garand, M1A, M1 carbine, Glock 19 (even though they feel like a plastic turd in my hand) all good choices for practical. The gadgets on the CZ75 were insane, but the base CZ75 without all the garbage on it is a great example of practical. Well-made revolvers in 38spcl or 357 would also fit the bill for practical vs tactikewl.
The only “practical” gun that stands out to me and makes me go that’s cool is the M1A socom 16 and even then I’d want to convert it to an EBR, besides that “practical” guns bore me and the same goes for plain AR’s and AK’s.
I'm down to 2 guns now, Smith and Wesson 686, and a Smith and Wesson model 29. They're all I need, and I even hunt with them. They have NEVER disappointed me.
a compliant rifle is a weapon that has had feature deemed "evil" removed,for example in california a compliant AR-15 is an AR-15 that is either a .22,or has had the release button removed.the law is if it is a semi auto centerfire fed by a detachable mag with any of the folowing:pistol grip,flash hider,folding or collapsing stock,foreward vertical grip,or a flare/grenade launcher
In fairness, a wet paper bag large enough to totally envelope two people would be both extremely heavy (being waterlogged) and smothering. The wet paper would be airtight and could drape down into your airways. I imagine that it would be a great deal harder than people assume it is.
Yes, I am. All successful designs are simplified developments of previous design with only modest mechanical innovations. The AK is of a simplified Garand design, SCAR H&K 416, G36 and modern military rifles combine a slightly modified AK action with a minimal innovation, which is a separate piston, op rod and bolt assembly for smoother operation. Same is with SIGs, Glocks, M&Ps and all modern pistols, that are a simplified Browning HP 35 with SA/DA or DAO or Safe Action triggers.
CZ 75 is practical gun but I did not even know that they made something like that "movie dagger" on it. By that way it is great that you have some CZs to sale. I live in Czech Republic and I am always surprised how famous these guns are. You are doing great anyway... Good luck
I know full well what I am talking about. They achieve that penetration because they do not expand nearly as much, or nearly as fast as a full-power slug. And if you're not getting expansion, energy transfer is reduced by a large amount. It's like .45acp FMJ ammo compared to a HP defensive round. There is no comparison.
I totally get it. That said, what is practical completely depends on your own needs. If someone is buying a weapon primarily for close quarters, indoor home defense, then something slightly more "tactical" might actually be the most practical. Part of your problem here is that you are contrasting practical and tactical and they are seldom antonyms. Context determines practicality. A .22 LR is awesome, but not the most practical in close quarter home defense. Problem is generally "tacticool."
Simplicity. There's something beautiful about that concept. I see rails, rails everywhere....I never quite got over it when they took away my M16A1 and gave me an M16A2, let alone all the stuff since.
with exception of a flash light i've added and removed about every piece of tacticool stuff i can think of on home defense shot gun. i put a pistol grip on it and took it off. i put a laser , bayonet , vertical grip , side saddle and a blackhawk sling. the thing looked like a drag queen named bruce and was all sorts of cumbersome. i've stripped all that crap off and went back to the basics except for the flashlight and a collapsible stock.
Back in the 80s, a company was selling selective fire H&K 91s, which had their barrels shorted to 8 in. One of its selling points, according to the company, was it produced a muzzle blast equal to that of a .50 BMG.
The 5.56/.223 relies on speed more than bullet mass, so once ranges stretch, effectiveness suffers. A 180gr bullet from a .308 is carrying over 3 times the mass of the average .223 bullet, and with a lot more energy. It probably retains more energy at 600yds than a .223 at 300. Basically, the .223 is very limited in application, whereas the .308/.30-06 function beautifully from nearly any distance out to 800yds and possibly farther.
I agree, however, a modified firearm may be able to help those with a handicap. My mother has very bad muscle pain, and a 10/22 in a plastic stock with a pistol grip is much easier for her to use than a normal rifle stocked 10/22. I like to keep it simple and price effective, but I'm not knocking modified or more expensive setups. If they can shoot better with it, good, however the extra costs don't always make a better shooter.
As a rule of thumb. 2 attachments maximum while out in the field or at the range. 3 attachments maximum for home defense. Any more than that, and you're just weighing your gun down unnecessarily. So for the range, or out in the bush a reflex sight, and a vertical grip on a rifle. Sure. For home defense a shotgun with a side saddle, flashlight, and reflex sight. Sure. Once you start throwing 4 or more attachments on a single gun. It gets a bit ridiculous.
You folks do it right. Not the long winded line of bullcrap spread by North-Western duracoaters who call me a "dude" over and over, no cheesy Russian accent, and information I care about. I swear, if you and hickok45 team up then the universe may implode in on itself due to the awesomeness.
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When I look at these videos again I always remember why I miss Barry.
Wym Edit:oh yeah rip
My girlfriend always called them the machine gun guy and Santa Claus
Man factual
Damn, we lost a good man. God bless you Barry.
R.i.p.
Crazy it’s been that long already. These are some of the first videos that got me started in watching RUclips. I’ve seen them all several times over
2019 still a kick in the balls
John doe Moto yepp but he will always be remembered through his wealth of knowledge on firearms, I learn something new from him almost everyday RIP Barry
Mike Honcho what happened to him how did he die
"You can ram em in the face with it" God Barry had some great lines!
@Marshall Brown He was an alcoholic and couldn’t get his stuff together.
my 1911 has a window breaker. 10 of them actually..
my 1911 has a coffee grinder, and I always keep a backup one in my holster. Lot's of beans out there....
You are an unsafe firearm owner.
10 window breaker doubled as widow maker
Yup....10 "window breakers" with layers attached to each one.
Prosecutor -"So you discharged your weapon at the scene of a car accident???"
"Alpha" male jackass-"Bet ur fuckin ass bitch....MURICA"
Prosecutor -"Expedite to Texas for execution immediately..."
Crowd - *fuck tons of applause*
n bo that would be a 2011
"If you have good tactics, you don't have to have a real tactical weapon"
I miss Barry's wisdom
I'll take an AR-15 with a simple red dot sight and a BIS. Next is my Winchester 1300 Defender (no gadgets) and my Glock (also no gadgets). The AR because I trained and deployed with that platform and the other two because they're simple to operate.
Indifferent Centrist what’s a BIS?
Steven Bentsen Backup iron sight
I would at least put a light on the Glock, just in case you need to use it in the dark.
1:57 - "this is the most practical rifle in the world" (Ruger 10/22)
Truer words, never spoken.
Thank you guys for telling it like it is. It is about time someone did. I decided to quit my membershio in an indoor range because of so many young folks coming in with way too tricked AR's, then handing them to their "dates" so they can sweep the range.
When it comes to gadgets I think it really depends on what the gadget is and what you're trying to accomplish with it.
For example, there's nothing wrong with a scope, BUIS, a suppressor, quad rail, sling and T-Pod on an AR if you're trying to build a rifle that's fantastic for hunting coyotes or bench shooting for max accuracy.
If you're just tricking the gun out to trick out and have it draw attention, then that's kind of a waste of money but if you have an articulable goal and your gadgets move you towards that, more power to you.
High power fash light and a red dot for home defense, if you can a bayonet because close quarters is assumed.
Heck yeah! I really like my old Rossi 92 in .357mag. I got it used for $150, and its in beautiful condition. I also reload for .357, but even for someone who doesn't reload, there is MUCH versatility with that type of rifle.
Barry was the fuckin man! Dude is so missed on this channel. I've learned a lot from you guys. Inspired me to get my FFL.
I can't say I agree with all the ideas these guys are talking about. .22 LR is NOT plentiful anymore but that may change. I find the AK-47 rather practical, or the AKM. Plenty of punch, tougher than nails and reliable in the extreme. In a defensive situation, if I have to shoot over 300 yards, I'm not going to bother taking the shot (not a defensive one). Can't see much farther than that unaided anyway. Others may beed long range capability, but I can't see use for it where I live. No LOS past 300 yards. There's nothing wrong with your basic stripped down iron sighted AR-15 either. THAT'S practical. Parts are everywhere, not that you'd need them often. I agree that a rifle with its butt stock cut off is not practical. That's a blaster toy. You can't aim nearly as well with the stock missing at long range, and if you are at short range, you're better off with a handy pistol if you want to talk PRACTICAL. As for pistols, personal choice rules. Most ammo calibers are common enough to get, but what matters is that you are comfortable with your pistol and its operations so you can have a decent CHANCE at hitting something when your adrenaline is making your brain scream and your muscles tight and slow.
In my opinion, if your engagement distances are 100 yards plus you would be better served with a 30 cal rifle cartridge, which is why I'm an AK guy( I think the AR and AK are both 300 yard guns), accuracy on 223 is pretty useless past 300 yards.
+dreyrugr max affective engagement range for 5.56 out of an AR patter rifle is 800m. I can accurately engage at 500m. 7.62x39 out of an AK style rifle has a max affective range of 300m
Brandon 5.56 You don't have to be shot to know the ballistics. I Know the effect of a 223 at 300 yards from ballistic gel and deer hunting.
A Kalashnikov is always a good choice because of it's reliability.
i am the same way down to earth guy i was taught with iron sights and that is my back bone they never fail
+Kennie Montano due to my bad eye sight i usually need a good sight for longer ranges but there is nothing that i love more than taking out those old bolt action rifles and nailing targets at 100 yards with iron sights
+David Mendez No school like Old School
I use to have a scope on my old lever gun, but it seemed wrong, so I took it off. Now it's set up the right way.
Kennie Montano I like that
@Judson Joist I'm all for backup irons, but pretty much every red dot on the market will last 3 years without ever being powered off. And the high-end red dots will last 5+ years if you "forget" to shut them off every single time you ever use it. If you can't afford or conjure up a new battery every few years, you're in the wrong hobby. Some magazines won't even remain serviceable that long if you keep them loaded.
I know a guy who has a 30 years old 10/22 and he was blabbin on about how you can mag dump it real quick, it jammed on literally every shot
I have to disagree with one of Barry's statements, just because you could kill a large game animal with a .22, doesn't mean you should. The reason we use large caliber rifles for large game is to kill the animal as quickly as possible. Seeing animals that were shot with an illegal caliber or poor shot placement makes me feel physically Ill.
With a 22 you pop it in the head. .22 caliber has enough to penetrate the skull, but not enough to exit really. That's why the .22 is such a deadly caliber, it will penetrate the skull, then bounce around inside, it would definitely kill the animal fast, you just have to be a halfway decent shot.
the 22 is poachers go to gun for a reason quiet deadly and cheap
Much to my amazement, my father-in-law (a full blood Indian )can (and has!) Take a deer with a single .22lr round. He paralyzed it with a neck shot and I slit its throat with my hunting knife .
@@rickstewart1904 Been hearing for over a decade some Canadian Indians hunt all game with the 22.
thescottsman1996 I took it as if the world ended and you had to survive a .22 is the most practical
But sometimes tactical is practical
indeed
yes only if all of it is rellivent to the situation of use
the cz 75 sp-01 like the one you had the "dust boot" and "bayonet" attached is a extremely practical gun, only the attachments are impractical. the "tactical" model that comes stock with night sites would be my first choice if i could only have one handgun, they are extremely accurate, and reliable. have to agree with the m1a, there even better with the addition of the sage ebr stock.
R.I.P Barry
A quality light, a good red dot sight and mybe a foregrip is all I need on my ar15. I do have a bayonet that will fit it but that's only bc I'm into knives too. I cannot imagine ever needing it at the end of my rifle
I think when the tactical people look at an M1 Garand they see an old, primitive, outdated rifle; it "Looks underwhelming". I don't see that when I look at an M1, I see a rifle that helped to end humanity's darkest hour. A rifle that has reliably and effectively served a great number of American soldiers who crossed into North Africa, Italy, Normandy and the islands near Japan. The linseed oil finish wooden stock is natural and strong, reliable. Steel is used throughout the design, in a time where such resources were more readily available. An M1 feels real to me, a real gun which served a generation of real men. I'll go for that look any day of the week.
i see an M1 grand and think holy crap there are (8? not sure) rounds of 30-06 that dont really care whats in the way. and they are awesome from a historic aspect as well
bigchunk1 I love the M1 Garand I dont care what tactical people say.
How poetic. How fucking gay...
one of the few cool semi auto 30-06 rifles in existence
funniest shit I've read in a long time.
Wow what an old video, good to see people still commenting here. I have a Mini 14 Ive had since 1985, and its a great gun. The old wood stock, pre ranch rifle. Those didnt have scope dovetails and you had to get a special scope mount for them. Its also top eject , so sometimes that causes problems with the brass hitting the scope. It shoots 1&1/2 to 2 inch groups at 100 yards, and is plenty accurate for coyotes out to 200 yards.It was $ 365 dollars at a Big box store then. My wife at the time bought it for me, and I say its the only good thing to came from that marrage lol . I now have a few more guns but I still love that little rifle.
No more CZ ammo? FIX BAYONETS! hahaha
What were they thinking?! Keep up the good work guys!
It’s funny to see how much Eric’s opinions have changed since these old gripes
wht02lightning like what?
For example saying he’s a .30 cal guy and doesn’t play much with .223 or 5.45
Who's here in 2020 and misses Barry?
The feels are real, I miss Based Barry so much.
I love watching these ones with ol Barry. I miss him
5:37 if Metal Gear is right, it has an infinity symbol, therefore it has infinite ammo! :o)
+Slayer Jesse Oh stop it you LOL
twelve
I have twelve shots
+Carlton Banks ocelots are proud creatures...
they prefer to hunt alone
::gesture::
That gun is really ugly.
The rifles they're talking about that require assembly are extremely practical because they can broken down into simple sections for easy storage and you don't have to worry about losing parts. A rifle generally has better range and accuracy than a pistol, but usually is too big to fit into a backpack.
The 10 22 Takedown can be put into a backpack and you won't have to worry about it's length snagging or falling over. The Marlin Papoose is the same, as is the AR7 Survival rifle.
seen it all now a bayonet on a pistol lmfao
+uk spartan My friend actually owns one and brings it out shooting.... I about died from laughter when he brought it over for the first time.
uk spartan chainsaw bayonet?
Google the Webley Pritchard bayonet.
I thought that was a Borderlands thing. You know, _a video game._
Have you ever seen a man eat his own head
Ruger 10/22 best all around rifle there is. Accurate, reliable plentiful parts. Ammo is light gun is light. Winner winner chicken dinner.
"25 rounds" "high capacity" REEEEEEE. 25 rounds is not high capacity, that's standard. 100 round drums are "high cap"
not in a 22 lr would a 25 round 45 acp be considered standard
Make sure the feed ramp is good and clean. Really tough Gunk will Build up on it and set the angle of the round up a little high so every time it pulls a new round towards the hole it hits high right over the top of it causing a jam..Usually if the ramp is clean and the extractor pins are working, you pull the bolt back and let it slam home it should work fine there is very little that can actually break inside the gun so I suspect it's gunk on the feed ramp....( I may be wrong tho)
simple is reliable
exactly
Simple is also boring
@@gifthorse3675 A gun's aesthetics mean nothing compared to its reliability and being to do its job efficiently, as well as its practicality. If that makes me "boring", then so be it.
I own two rifles I enjoy immensely which is the Ruger Mini-14 Tactical and the Ruger PC Carbine in 9mm which is a break down take down gun that can fit in a back pack style bag in seconds and shoots 9mm. Very happy with the things available out there for people to use.
My Swiss army knife has a Glock attached to it
Well. I understand that there is a point where accessories become ridiculous, but I'd have no problem with Some you know, non-standard optics, a nice light, and maybe a folding stock. They may seem a bit excessive at first, but I think it's a nice touch to be able to stay steadier and still have the light, or the option to fold down the stock for carrying in a bag or a smaller space. Optics with weaver rails require a re-sight if you take them off, but I think those clip on/off setups are good.
i prefer simplicity also, my ar15 has round handguards, a carry handle, and a basic 6 position stock, i also have the rail you can attach to the carry handle for scopes and sights if i ever want to use one
ar15......typical lol
he just means you'll want more guns after your first one dummy. chill out
Take the knife off that handgun and the weight at the front might take a bit of the kick off of the recoil.
I totally agree with all of that, keep it simple or at least practical.I have a ruger 10/22 with an ATI folding stock, i bought it like that , it didnt came with the wooden one but its ok,i have a 235 lumens genesis flashlight on it, a bipod that i can remove super fast if needed,and a quick detach sling, also a bushnell trophy xlt scope ,its a little bit much but its still practical and easy to disasemble,i did the auto bolt release so its ready faster and a poly bolt buffer, and 30 round mags.
i like the ruger 44 carbine they are hard to find though
very sweet guns i wouldve bought one if they made larger clips
The Scout im trying to find an M1 Garand close to where I live but no luck finding one.
Tommy Hurtado order it online to be sent to your ffl
My pop has one
a G3 with a short barrel and no stock and drum mag...sounds awesome
Not sure that the .22lr is a good idea for deer. Yeah it might work but not an ethical round for the job. Rather a more practical round like the .410, 20 gage or 12gauge. Though thats just me.
Rimfire not legal for white man. Indian take deer with 1 .22lr round (my full blood father in law). Paralyzed it with neck shot. Dispatched with large hunting knife.
Large caliber ruin meat....
@@rickstewart1904 bro I'm in an Indian and a hunter the most Indian people in my tribe are literate and can talk like normal people instead of the stereotypical cowboy movie Indian also a large round is fine to hunt with unless you're a shit shot aim for the head or spinal cord and all of the meat will literally be fine
One of the first viddies I watched from you guys back in the day…
FUNNY how these guys keep promoting AR-15's, M-14's, M-1 Garands, AK-47's and various other military weapons.
Back in the 1960's, you could buy any number of WW2 surplus rifles from InterArmCo (mail order !) for $10 - $100,
depending on condition and quality. That included M-1 Garands and M-1 Carbines. Now, the least expensive military
guns available are Moisin-Nagant 7.62 bolt actions, running $100-$150 (sold for $15 in 1960). Talk about inflation !
AND THE NEWER GUNS ? Don't even think about them, unless you're willing to fork over close to $1000 cash money !
Practical is a point of view. Your attachments depend on what you're doing with the weapon. If you're planning on shooting at night that bare bones M1A isn't gonna do shit when you can't see the target. Vertical grip and bipods are definitely personal preference and situational dependent. Do you need them? Maybe not, but there's no use talking shit about them when someone has it on their weapon and they actually use it. Just because you don't use them doesn't mean they don't serve a purpose.
I rather spend on ammo and guns. I still use iron sights and very proficient with it. My firearms look very boring to some haha.
Mine as well
Everybody starts at tacticool and inevitably ends up back at the good ol M16a2 hehe
Right now, my favorite “always have around” handgun is the glock 43x with shield arms 15 round mags. Its pretty much a slimmed down and smaller g19.
As a rule of thumb, if a shotgun barrel accepts chokes, it is not meant for slugs. Chokes are for differing the pattern of shot. One needs either a rifled barrel (with rifling grooves already machined in) or a smooth slug barrel, which would use actual slugs which themselves are rifled (rifled slugs). You may use Sabot slugs in rifled barrels, but not in smooth slug barrels, because they lose their accuracy. Barrels must be pressure-tested for slugs at the factory. Check the manual first!
My style gun is an AK and 96FS
corvetteguy1980 96?? What’s that? I know of a 92FS (LOVE that pistol 🙌🏼🙌🏼)
Steven Bentsen 40s&w Version of the 92fs
Im definitely a practical guy and I agree that the M1A with a fiberglass stock is my all time favorite weapon. I've had everything from HK 91s, valmets, uzis, AK 47s, just about every AR15 made, and also just about every combat shotgun or pistol that's ever been made. Today I have my S&W M and P sport 2, a 20 gauge mossberg Shockwave, a 12 gauge maverick folding stock, and a ruger American ranch 350 legend. The only thing I lack is a ruger 10 22. I consider myself ready for any scenario from tactical, short-range, to long range. I will buy more, because at one time I had almost $30,000 worth of guns, pistols, shotguns, and assault rifles, pistol caliber carbines, and battle rifles, but I feel confident i could confront any scenario, as well as put food on the table with the few i currently have.
A 22 is basically paper in a printer. It's a must have for any occasion. Me at 14 was able to get 25 rounds down range in little under 5 seconds. It's fun to shoot and decent for home defense
I would just like to say: No, you do not NEED gadgets, and yes, a lot of them are silly, but a lot of gadgets are very useful and make dispatching unfriendlies easier. Speaking as one who has seen combat, I like a good iron sights, foregrip, a light/laser if it's dark, and sliding (NOT FOLDING) stock. That's all you need. Yes, you can be very effective with a basic rifle, but the little things can help, and when it's life and death, every little thing matters. BTW, great video.
"You would have a NICE zombie popper....A practical gun." Lol come on guys. A practical zombie gun?
[moans sarcastically in Doom 3 headless zombie]
"zombie" is just code.
I actually almost immigrated to the US to TN, but it didn't work out with my now ex wife. So I live in AUS where we can own most guns but not semi rifles. I have a CZ75B in 9mm and think I might go a henry in .22 as another post suggested. I have bolt guns in .308 and .223. So the henry would fill the middle gap nicely. Thanks for your comment.
a good strategy beats the best tactic
so with a sight a light and a mind full of might you might just win the fight
nice one :P
I have an XCR-L Scope, Iron sights, AFG A VG, forward sling loop and hand grip rail covers. Nothing els. My bi pod is my pack or a branch on a tree. Even my dog that is trained to lay still. No lights or red dot side mounts, no lasers or fidget spinners. No mag clamps or any of the. Granted I do have a folding stock that only gets folded when the rifle is in one of my hard cases I only use when traveling.
I do have a very tactical shotgun but it is more a gunsafe queen. And yes my M14 has a scope and bi pod so I can take it out to real distances well.
From a mouse to a what?
Justin Greene lol thats what i said
Deer.
I listen to it like three times trying to figure it out.
DEER
I think he said deer
When I cleaned the Marlin a little over a year ago it was working fine. I took the trigger job assembly out but kept it fully assembled. Somehow some of the E clips on the side popped out and the whole thing disintegrated in my hands. I spent several hours trying to fix it with no luck so I had to take it to a gunsmith. After they reassembled it I started getting that jamming problem.
Yes, I'm looking for a practical weapon for killing zombies. I'm definitely more of a 30 caliber man. So a .223 just won't do.....22 rimfire? Perfect!!
i've had a 10/22 for nearly 20 years now. It's seen well over 20k rounds and only been cleaned twice, and it's never jammed in all that time. Still damn accurate too.
Everybody that enjoys guns should have a 10/22. Super fun, reliable, cheap to feed and will likely outlast you. What more can you ask for $250? (if they even cost that much!)
AR - 10/22 lol ! Poor Mans AR-15 ! The 10/22 is WAY overrated. I do own 2 highly modified 10\22s. Great for cheap plinking. Fun to learn and tinker with. Don't go John Rambo with it...Just don't :-\
+1 on the 10/22 being overrated. They aren't bad, but all Model 60's I've had have outperformed the 10/22's I've had experience with.
Nicholas Bryan Marlin 60? Those things are very accurate, but they sucks when they get dirty. I've had three and they were all the same.
I proudly own a Maverick 88 field-variant pump shotgun, unmodified as of my current typing. It's a fantastic gun in its own right, but could use a few improvements.
I intend to use my shotty for a variety of purposes, and for that, I could use some shiny new parts. For example, a top-mounted accessory rail for a sight (tuned for slug rounds), an adjustable folding stock, a 24" accu-choke barrel, and a new pump with rails for a flashlight (and new action rails in case I want a foregrip, too).
Yes, a practical gun is adequate for most anything you might need it for, but some people want more flash and bang, so they put out extra cash to go tactical, or "tacticool" if you want to call it that. It's their decision, and I've made mine.
Recommending .22 LR for use in defense at 300 yards is irresponsible. At that range, .22 LR is producing scarcely more than 50 joules of energy, and likely would not penetrate deeply enough to reach the vital organs of a man. It does not even come close to the old military recommendation that a fragment or projectile should produce at least 58 ft-lbs (79 J) of energy to reliably cause a casualty.
Frankly, it's bizarre that one would dismiss the .223 Remington round, and then without skipping a beat recommend something so inadequate for self defense at range as .22 LR.
***** "You and your buddies can defend yourselves quite well out to about 300 yards with [a Ruger 10/22]."
Sounds like a recommendation to me.
Gunman84 you nail a guy in the eye with a 1022, youre quite well defended in my opinion
That would require expecting 0.3 MOA or less out of a stock Ruger 10/22 and the shooter, under the stress of a life-and-death situation.
Time to give this up. The Ruger 10/22 is not a "quite effective" self-defense weapon at 300 yards.
"A .22 will kill you farther than you can shoot it accurately."
Thanks guys...Eric and Barry! fine vids on the "gun thing".. RIP Barry you live on in our hearts and minds.
I prefer the 1911. There is a reason that the Army had it standard issue for so long.
+Nick Shrope that reason is poor judgment.
It is the best option they had
Slice of Cheese any revolver would have been better.
That is your opinion
It has gross amounts of stopping power round for round as opposed to a m9 with a 9mm round that may take 5 shots to bring a man down. The 1911 feels good in the hand as it is thinner and it still has a quickly removable mag
Some people like Glocks and XD's because you can get lots of little things like flashlight, lasers, huge capacity magazines, rail mounts so you put red dots, etc. I like Revolvers because every time I pull the trigger and the next chamber has a loaded round, it goes bang. Simplicity is tactical.
i miss barry
me too. I wish I had met him
These guys and TNP are the best...lately I've been nodding off all day in class cause of these dudes! Lovin' it!
Says he’s a 30 caliber guy and doesn’t buy into .223 then proceeds to praise the 10/22 as the best rifle in the world which can take down large game and is even a viable option for defense. I like a Ruger but I lost a lot of respect for this ignorance. So you prefer 30 caliber and don’t like .223 because it’s not as good as 30 but a .22 lr is? 30-06 is a great round, is .223 worthless compared to it? Absolutely not. Is .22 lr worthless? Absolutely not? Is .22 lr more than suitable for taking down an elk and and is the be all end all of rifles? Absolutely not. Every caliber has its advantages and disadvantages. .22 lr is a horrible choice for large game and 30 caliber is horrible for squirrels. There is no such thing as “the best rifle”. Only which rifle is best for which situation. I generally like these videos and find them informative but this raises some red flags just as these guys made me think before that all pawn shop gun counter employees were not know it all commandos just trying to sell with false information.
Nice to see a Mini-14, I am a big fan of the mini-14 and would love to see you guys do a video on its simplicity and reliability. Thanks in advance!
Do any of you want to adobt a 40 years olde Danish Boy? I can't even have a pocketknife on me! To hell with Socialismen! Im a viking and can't owen a gun! PLEAS SAVE ME!
You need to move here and enjoy firearms before you are unable
nalajepper I love my Clock 22 and I am going to clock 17 or 19 soon I own a lot of guns from 410,s to 12gage to 22,s to clock'22 I love all make,s and model,s
The Vikings succumbed to Free Trim in the 1960s.
Truly, birth control pills and women thinking they can be sexually free is the problem. Men want to conquer the World and women want houses and babies. Whether men and women ever admit it to themselves is another matter.
Turn the Electricity, water and gasoline off for 3 months and see what happens. Given the scenarios in hurricane areas, as we have seen, reality gets real thin.
If you aren't prepared for 2 to 3 months for your family, you are in risk. And KEEP your mouth shut. Aqua Rain water purification counter top canister, tygon and nalgene bottles, dry ice, charcoal grill. Arms, Attitude, Gas, Ass.
Oh, and the first error you have made is your last statement...."Please save me!"
But a bullet proof vest. You need fire arm no more.
Well having a flashlight on your gun is actually quite practical. It blinds your target, helps identify the target, and if you aim with the center of the light, it helps if you happen to be hip firing(not sure why you would be but it helps).
Plus one with Kenny montano. I keep a Glock 19 with trij hi viz orange and a tlr white light from stream light. Simple and reliable. Great video guys.
I've had 3 Ruger BX-25's and all of them FTF issues, after playing with them for a day or so i junked em and went with butler creeks, havent had a problem since.
Heck yeah, My first Gun ( I am 16) is a Mosin Nagant made at the Izmash arsenal in Izhevsk in 1942. I've used it to pierce armor, kill deer, and it is one of the best rifles in my my house. For $117.05 with gun, starter kit, 20 rounds, it is THE best buy for the money in America
I have the 597 with factory scope. Have put approx 300 rounds thorugh it without any failures. Extremely accurate. The only thing I dislike about it is the lack of iron sights on mine and lack of accssories. As Id love to have a folding stock. Either would give you a lifetime of service.
I was definitely sold on the M1A when i hit a paper plate at 150 yards with the first shot on irons! Very fun gun
Getting a 10/22 tactical model and getting an AR-like frame with collapsing stock and low mag and high mag scopes as well as some highcap mags, maybe a flashlight as well, that'll be my gun. Best victory is the one you don't even have to fire a single shot to achieve but you'd better be ready to shoot if need be.
"You see the guys that have everything but the kitchen sink on their rifle" hahahahaha. Lost it there lol
Also there is nothing wrong with having effective and useful accessories, as long as you understand what they are for, know how to use them effectively, train and practice with them and understand their limits.
Good info. Ruger 10/22, M1 Garand, M1A, M1 carbine, Glock 19 (even though they feel like a plastic turd in my hand) all good choices for practical. The gadgets on the CZ75 were insane, but the base CZ75 without all the garbage on it is a great example of practical. Well-made revolvers in 38spcl or 357 would also fit the bill for practical vs tactikewl.
The only “practical” gun that stands out to me and makes me go that’s cool is the M1A socom 16 and even then I’d want to convert it to an EBR, besides that “practical” guns bore me and the same goes for plain AR’s and AK’s.
I completely agree with you. To me this just sounds like people scoffing at the future because they're stuck in the past.
I'm down to 2 guns now, Smith and Wesson 686, and a Smith and Wesson model 29. They're all I need, and I even hunt with them. They have NEVER disappointed me.
a compliant rifle is a weapon that has had feature deemed "evil" removed,for example in california a compliant AR-15 is an AR-15 that is either a .22,or has had the release button removed.the law is if it is a semi auto centerfire fed by a detachable mag with any of the folowing:pistol grip,flash hider,folding or collapsing stock,foreward vertical grip,or a flare/grenade launcher
In fairness, a wet paper bag large enough to totally envelope two people would be both extremely heavy (being waterlogged) and smothering. The wet paper would be airtight and could drape down into your airways. I imagine that it would be a great deal harder than people assume it is.
Yes, I am. All successful designs are simplified developments of previous design with only modest mechanical innovations. The AK is of a simplified Garand design, SCAR H&K 416, G36 and modern military rifles combine a slightly modified AK action with a minimal innovation, which is a separate piston, op rod and bolt assembly for smoother operation. Same is with SIGs, Glocks, M&Ps and all modern pistols, that are a simplified Browning HP 35 with SA/DA or DAO or Safe Action triggers.
CZ 75 is practical gun but I did not even know that they made something like that "movie dagger" on it. By that way it is great that you have some CZs to sale. I live in Czech Republic and I am always surprised how famous these guns are. You are doing great anyway... Good luck
Your videos are so good I recommended them to a guy at work today, but he said he watches your channel too!
+1 for M1A. Beautiful piece of history.
I know full well what I am talking about.
They achieve that penetration because they do not expand nearly as much, or nearly as fast as a full-power slug. And if you're not getting expansion, energy transfer is reduced by a large amount.
It's like .45acp FMJ ammo compared to a HP defensive round. There is no comparison.
My only .22LR is a Ruger 10/22 Takedown. I effin' love it!
I totally get it. That said, what is practical completely depends on your own needs. If someone is buying a weapon primarily for close quarters, indoor home defense, then something slightly more "tactical" might actually be the most practical. Part of your problem here is that you are contrasting practical and tactical and they are seldom antonyms. Context determines practicality. A .22 LR is awesome, but not the most practical in close quarter home defense. Problem is generally "tacticool."
I used to have a rugger 10/22 and it never needed a single gadget to work perfect for every shot, just wish I hadn't given it away!
Simplicity. There's something beautiful about that concept. I see rails, rails everywhere....I never quite got over it when they took away my M16A1 and gave me an M16A2, let alone all the stuff since.
with exception of a flash light i've added and removed about every piece of tacticool stuff i can think of on home defense shot gun. i put a pistol grip on it and took it off. i put a laser , bayonet , vertical grip , side saddle and a blackhawk sling. the thing looked like a drag queen named bruce and was all sorts of cumbersome. i've stripped all that crap off and went back to the basics except for the flashlight and a collapsible stock.
Back in the 80s, a company was selling selective fire H&K 91s, which had their barrels shorted to 8 in. One of its selling points, according to the company, was it produced a muzzle blast equal to that of a .50 BMG.
"This one borders on the ridiculous." "This gun is really impractical." Great sales pitch.
The 5.56/.223 relies on speed more than bullet mass, so once ranges stretch, effectiveness suffers.
A 180gr bullet from a .308 is carrying over 3 times the mass of the average .223 bullet, and with a lot more energy. It probably retains more energy at 600yds than a .223 at 300.
Basically, the .223 is very limited in application, whereas the .308/.30-06 function beautifully from nearly any distance out to 800yds and possibly farther.
I agree, however, a modified firearm may be able to help those with a handicap. My mother has very bad muscle pain, and a 10/22 in a plastic stock with a pistol grip is much easier for her to use than a normal rifle stocked 10/22. I like to keep it simple and price effective, but I'm not knocking modified or more expensive setups. If they can shoot better with it, good, however the extra costs don't always make a better shooter.
As a rule of thumb. 2 attachments maximum while out in the field or at the range. 3 attachments maximum for home defense. Any more than that, and you're just weighing your gun down unnecessarily. So for the range, or out in the bush a reflex sight, and a vertical grip on a rifle. Sure. For home defense a shotgun with a side saddle, flashlight, and reflex sight. Sure. Once you start throwing 4 or more attachments on a single gun. It gets a bit ridiculous.
You folks do it right. Not the long winded line of bullcrap spread by North-Western duracoaters who call me a "dude" over and over, no cheesy Russian accent, and information I care about. I swear, if you and hickok45 team up then the universe may implode in on itself due to the awesomeness.