Does the Original 90s X-Men Cartoon STILL HOLD UP???

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  • @realjesterbell
    @realjesterbell  7 месяцев назад +23

    Does a mall babe eat chili fries?

    • @FriendlyBatDoom
      @FriendlyBatDoom 7 месяцев назад

      What in tarnation is a mall babe?😂

    • @PhilRiveraMedia
      @PhilRiveraMedia 7 месяцев назад +6

      @@FriendlyBatDoom One thousand years ago, superstition and the sword ruled. It was a time of darkness. It was a world of fear. It was the age of mall babes.

    • @gregc6107
      @gregc6107 7 месяцев назад

      isn't it mall baby i thought

    • @angelarch5352
      @angelarch5352 7 месяцев назад

      ...what's a mall?

    • @toomuch535
      @toomuch535 7 месяцев назад

      First off.Xmen did have nothing to do with power ranger being aired.Xmen was the most popular property during 90s.Xmen came out in 92,power rangers came out in 93.Power Rangers wasn't even a known property until it aired on tv.And in 1991 Xmen issue #1 sold 9 million copies alone.And that's before the cartoon. Its like you guys trying rewrite history about xmen 😂.

  • @mikemurz2079
    @mikemurz2079 7 месяцев назад +20

    A gripe I have about Nightcrawler, is how he`s always been portrayed in movies+animation as religious, dour, and ashamed. I remember Nightcrawler from the Excalibur comic in the nineties as a funny and charismatic swashbuckling dude with zero fear.

    • @kerry-j4m
      @kerry-j4m 7 месяцев назад +2

      So true and I LOVED Excalibur. The good ole days of the X-Men days,I bought several titles of X-Men comics.

  • @saidi7975
    @saidi7975 7 месяцев назад +19

    Holds up way better than the 00's X-Men comics I Can assure you that...

    • @vetarlittorf1807
      @vetarlittorf1807 7 месяцев назад +3

      Which ones? The Grant Morrison run? Ultimate X-Men? Astonishing X-Men? House of M? Messiah Complex?

    • @saidi7975
      @saidi7975 7 месяцев назад

      @@vetarlittorf1807 all of those. I despise most of those ( ultimate X-Men is more of a fascinating car crash in its dumbassery though, I'll give it that). I know what I want when reading X-Men and it's not in those appalling printed abortions.

    • @dallassegno
      @dallassegno 7 месяцев назад

      Everything since 00 in mainstream comics is garbage ha ha. I personally argue anything involving space, 90's is trash. Rob liefeld was a travesty imo. Oh well. Trash in trash out. Kirby ftw.

    • @saidi7975
      @saidi7975 2 месяца назад

      ​@@dallassegno yeah sure whatever...

  • @jamesabernethy7896
    @jamesabernethy7896 7 месяцев назад +18

    Don't knock the 80's we had He-Man and Thundercats. This series was great, it could pull off the drama and the depth, but there were also a lot of action-packed episodes. There were definitely allegories as part of the storytelling, they were bold but unlike modern storytelling, they didn't try and force their answer down your throat. They explored moral issues from both sides. As you've pointed out, some of the dialogue was cheesy, but that was part of the fun. As for the animation, I never had issues with it.

    • @MrKingkz
      @MrKingkz 7 месяцев назад

      Same up until I see a Japanese cartoon I thought the animation was fine

  • @charlesbomerschein9707
    @charlesbomerschein9707 7 месяцев назад +7

    Honestly? Yes. It holds up. Especially if we're talking about the stories told, production, and presentation. 90s Animation for Disney, Marvel, and DC was the golden years. They all tackled adult subjects while managing to still treat fans and the viewers with respect.

  • @PhilRiveraMedia
    @PhilRiveraMedia 7 месяцев назад +12

    I was there, Jester.....a thousand years ago. Batman, Animaniacs, X-Men, Power Rangers. It was an animation/kids show renaissance. I did recently re-watch X-Men and the stories absolutely hold up. Of course, the animation and editing is the weak point. Kinda hard to watch. I recall Spider-Man being worse in the editing department. During that time we were used to it, but it stands out more now. Otherwise, I love to have it playing in the background and listening to it. It's still a great show.

    • @vetarlittorf1807
      @vetarlittorf1807 7 месяцев назад

      The humor is very dated tho. Especially the "You know how much these cost?" "Yeah. A quarter". That's such a 90's sitcom line.

    • @tornadochaser2457
      @tornadochaser2457 7 месяцев назад +1

      It makes sense that Spider-Man was worse in the editing department, as things could get choppy due to re-used footage.

  • @acemarvel1564
    @acemarvel1564 7 месяцев назад +10

    And pretty ahead of its time too

  • @thechuckjosechannel.2702
    @thechuckjosechannel.2702 7 месяцев назад +7

    It holds up a lot, including Wolverine and the X-Men.

    • @KornyKornball
      @KornyKornball 7 месяцев назад +2

      I just watched that a couple weeks ago and it was damn good.

    • @thechuckjosechannel.2702
      @thechuckjosechannel.2702 7 месяцев назад

      @@KornyKornball yep, It was ahead of its time like that 60's Spiderman toon.

    • @bladerunner3314
      @bladerunner3314 7 месяцев назад +2

      Only negative I have is how toned down Logan was - he never sliced anybody.

    • @1D4ever
      @1D4ever 7 месяцев назад

      I guess I'm the only one who likes Wolverine and the X-Men the best.

    • @thechuckjosechannel.2702
      @thechuckjosechannel.2702 7 месяцев назад

      @@1D4ever definitely.

  • @darkwoods1954
    @darkwoods1954 7 месяцев назад +8

    I rewatched the 90s X-Men last year and enjoyed it so much. Though it does go downhill a bit in season 4. I really hope 97 is a worthy sequel.

    • @kerry-j4m
      @kerry-j4m 7 месяцев назад +2

      I've rewatched it over the years and found it still entertaining,the animation is kinda-WONKY-but,it's a product of it's time. Still a nostalgic ride for me back to the 90s.

  • @shooterdownunder
    @shooterdownunder 7 месяцев назад +3

    Yes please do xmen evolution

  • @robbycooper6787
    @robbycooper6787 6 месяцев назад +1

    4:47 movement and visuals that don’t fail to depict what’s supposed to be happening

  • @remixsolo
    @remixsolo 7 месяцев назад +4

    One of my favorite episodes was when Storm and Rogue went to Africa to help her foster son MijNari from the Shadow King. The other was one where Wolverine went to Alaska to clear his head, but Sabretooth stalks and tries to kill him by has to help a local fishing village.

  • @WulfLovelace
    @WulfLovelace 6 месяцев назад +1

    I think what I struggled with was gauging what age these characters were. Because sometimes they behaved like adult teenagers, sometimes they behave like teenaged adults. But I love this show.

  • @joshuajoshua2732
    @joshuajoshua2732 7 месяцев назад +1

    Amazing I find the new stuff dates more than the old stuff this actually still stands the test of time.

  • @LowellLucasJr.
    @LowellLucasJr. 7 месяцев назад +1

    Answer: YES!
    All may not be heavy hitters, but its the only series to capture the comic art and stories we love so much! Nothing like the new stuff I assure you!❤

  • @oopartsw911
    @oopartsw911 6 месяцев назад +1

    I love X-Men:Evolution

  • @Bear-zj3nj
    @Bear-zj3nj 7 месяцев назад +4

    So I know where talking about the X-Men but I was wondering did you ever watch Gargoyles?

  • @JohnHenrysaysHi
    @JohnHenrysaysHi 7 месяцев назад +3

    Congrats on the 14k! Oh my stars and garters. This is X-actly what the good Dr. Hank McCoy ordered for X-Week! Will we have have to make an X out of our relationship with X-Men TAS where it's only amazing from the perspective being dated in the 90s? Make new friends and ditch the old, one is gold, and it ain't X-Men Blue or Gold? Be there or/and be Square! 2une in this 2uesday at possibly 2 PM to learn if XTAS is amazing in a dated sense of it being hip to be square!
    For me, I remember the depth of storytelling lacking and voice acting and animation being rough where I couldn't recommend it to adults like Batman The Animated Series. I don't think it competes with Batman The Animated Series where, for me, the top greatest shows that I've seen (I heard All Creatures Great and Small could be the greatest, but I haven't seen it.)
    Top shows I've seen:
    1. Twilight Zone
    2. Seinfeld (Seasons 1-7 before Larry David left and the characters became caricatures)
    3. Simpsons (Seasons 1-8 before they lost the heart of the family)
    4. Frasier- most consistent quality show that I've seen but I don't think it reaches the peaks of the above. It's just consistently really good so it gets on here.
    And then after that, Batman the Animated Series (the first three seasons before the Superman TAS/TNBA/BB/Static Shock/Zeta Project/JLU continuation) is somewhere after that. I think BTAS is even better than Breaking Bad, and that's a great show. BTAS, Avatar the Last Bender, and early Spongebob Squarepants, I remember being among the greatest animated shows I've seen.
    However, X-Men the Animated Series' interpretation of Wolverine was my favorite superhero (JesterBell, I started reading Gambit's first appearance last night with him being protective of "kid" Storm, and he might be my favorite as I continue reading!), and it was a meaningful series to me with the redemptive cynic to faith, loner to family self-contained Wolverine saga, especially since I think it's an example of Marvel/DC where, while I think there have been comics that relative to all the contradictory religions in the DC and Marvel Universe comics where I think it can be insulting to people's religion where the universe can make it out to be that religion is just what makes people feel good as opposed to what they believe is true, and truth can't contradict truth; however, I remember X-Men TAS, along with Batman TAS, the Sam Raimi Spider-man Trilogy; Frank Miller's Dark Knight Returns and Batman Year One; Steve Englehart's Batman; Chuck Dixon's Nightwing; what I read of Steve Englehart's West Coast Avengers; Joe Kelly's 1997 Deadpool were examples of Marvel/DC that I thought were respectful to Christianity even though, I don't think it makes sense when we can see Wonder Woman and Thor right there along with certain time travel and seeing heroes using certain magic that seems kinda....I gotta go!
    Before I get my heart ripped out and learn how much it stinks like Omega Red on ice, jk, some of my favorite X-Men TAS quotes/scenes!
    1) When Wolverine has the conversation with Professor X telling him he fears himself not knowing who he is anymore.
    2) the Proteus scene where Wolverine's mind is getting ripped apart "h-hey stopp it! Make it stop" and he starts sobbing
    From his conversation with Sabretooth: "You always liked pushing people around smaller than you! Well, I'm smaller! Try pushing me! Raaaah"
    "There's no peace for me!"
    "errrahhh Cowards, all of 'em!"
    "Her trail went cold outside of the house...got bit by a dog too."
    "Hey, Tin Woodsman, I'm sending you back to Oz in pieces"
    From good old Wunderbar Nightcrawler's conversation with his mother Mystique: I will beg God to bestow His grace on me so that I may learn to forgive you. Then I will ask Him to bestow His grace on you so that you might learn to forgive yourself.
    Thanks again, JesterBell! X-Cited for your thoughts! Keep Talking X-Men!

  • @krono5el
    @krono5el 7 месяцев назад +1

    honestly the only problem i had with the show as a kid was the budget but back then i didnt know it, we just knew the animation quality was not like pryde of the x-men or the anime i was watching at the time.

  • @gloriathomas3245
    @gloriathomas3245 7 месяцев назад +1

    As someone who grew up on watching the old X-Men Cartoons I would've preferred they revive Pryde Of The X-Mean over this. To me this just another cop-out to piggyback off the X-Men 97 popularity in the same manner that Star Trek Voyager and DS9 were also cop-outs to piggyback off TNG

  • @Uatu-the-Watcher
    @Uatu-the-Watcher 6 месяцев назад

    OMG, she is going to be pleased.

  • @excaliber8713
    @excaliber8713 6 месяцев назад

    The animation is part of what makes itngreat!

  • @lukeluck1395
    @lukeluck1395 7 месяцев назад

    Have you ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight

  • @i0kiVids
    @i0kiVids 7 месяцев назад +1

    I found your video after watching the new X-Men '97 cartoon. Great vid, very informative and persuasive. One small correction when talking about Nightcrawler -- you call him a devout Christian when he is actually a devout Catholic! Keep up the good vids :)

    • @shj2783
      @shj2783 6 месяцев назад +1

      Catholics are Christians...but devout Catholic is a more detailed description

  • @robchuk4136
    @robchuk4136 7 месяцев назад +1

    Fist bump. You get it. You my dawg
    But I liked the look of it.
    Having grown up with the He-Mans and GI Joes, X-Men's animation was par for the course in those days and I was used to it. The women were buxom, and the men were overly muscular (to an absurd degree, imo), but I liked the details. Action toons tended to be overly detailed back then, which was hard to maintain on a consistent basis, given the production schedules. But imo the animation only gets really bad in the last season with the new arthouse they outsourced work from. Similar shifts happened with other long-running cartoons of the time like TMNTs "red sky" Era and Captain Planet going to the New Adventures of Captain Planet. Less details, jankier movements, and overall very sloppy looking.

  • @AndreNitroX
    @AndreNitroX 7 месяцев назад

    Well said sometimes flaws can make a show unique and this show will always be fun to watch

  • @LowellLucasJr.
    @LowellLucasJr. 7 месяцев назад

    I still recommend the episode, Reboman. Its one of the best Wolverine episodes and just a solid watch on its own!😊

  • @pacecory1
    @pacecory1 7 месяцев назад +1

    the answer is: aside from running at a hundred miles per minute, constantly. Yes, it holds up real well. Sexy babes, sexy dudes, action, adventure, romance, intrigue, and sorrow. Its good
    The animation is better than a lot of cartoons in modern era. Its down right amazing sometimes. Like people forgot how to animate recently somehow.
    I think almost all the complaints don't understand what super heroes were supposed to be...
    Oh also Jubilee is the best, waifu, ever. Fight me

    • @pacecory1
      @pacecory1 7 месяцев назад

      sadly I think disney has already ruined the new show. No more chest pillows? Dude that's half the appeal, that and rogue's butt. The other stuff like what they were said to do to morph etc. yeah nah thanks. I'll keep my memories pure.

  • @jamesrinley
    @jamesrinley 7 месяцев назад

    Nostalgia gets me EVERYTIME.
    Hell, I can't even listen the animation theme song without a rain of rosy memories start falling on me LOL.
    This can be an absolute trashfire, but as soon as the theme starts playing, it will be impossible for me not to like it.
    I'm that gullible hahahaha.

  • @KyleBChandlerEsquire
    @KyleBChandlerEsquire 7 месяцев назад +1

    You look very pretty today, Teresa!

  • @DanielBMaximoff
    @DanielBMaximoff 7 месяцев назад

    I grew up with X-Men Evolution

    • @MrKingkz
      @MrKingkz 7 месяцев назад

      I was very lucky to be old enough to catch all the og X men cartoon and young enough for X men evolution it was a good time

  • @RhythmVaolence2
    @RhythmVaolence2 7 месяцев назад

    It looks really good ngl.

  • @ensabahnur7657
    @ensabahnur7657 7 месяцев назад +1

    Greetings fellow Mutants!

  • @Jason5818UI
    @Jason5818UI 6 месяцев назад +1

    Cheesy dialog? ...it was a kids show 😆...theres only so far you can go.

  • @Themachomanic
    @Themachomanic 7 месяцев назад

    I go...where I wanna go!

  • @Walt_Chocolate
    @Walt_Chocolate 6 месяцев назад

    Bamf!
    I am pleased.

  • @christopherauzenne5023
    @christopherauzenne5023 7 месяцев назад

    I have only recently seen the 1997 show in preparation for the revival so I have a blind perspective. Personally, as someone who never grew up with/have nostalgia for the show, I think it’s a pretty solid show. Granted I do feel it can be a bit too quick at times but only a little bit (no where near as Spider-Man TAS could be) and at one or two points I thought I was watching an episode out of order but it’s still by all means solid. I really appreciate it tried to talking comic story lines as accurate as possible, even smaller arcs, and something I really began to notice/appreciate is that classic marvel cartoons tend to have more overarching stories/continued narratives (spectacular Spider-Man, earth mightiest heroes, this) vs dc which did have arcs at times but tended to be more episodic (to be clear NOT in anyway a bad thing it’s just a different storytelling way). Sure the animation here isn’t godly but for what they did have it was good and I definitely think the characters were solid, adventures were fun, and I really appreciate they did try to distance themselves from being a comic book show and embraced it

  • @vetarlittorf1807
    @vetarlittorf1807 7 месяцев назад +6

    It does not hold up. Just compare it to Batman TAS, a show that actually does hold up.

  • @jackharpring5849
    @jackharpring5849 7 месяцев назад

    I'm glad you like bloodlines...but you know an episode is getting out of hand when even the characters are making fun of how much it is turning into a soap opera. Having Rogue, Nightcrawler, and Graydon Creed all find out they are siblings in the same episode almost at the same time was pushing the limits on how seriously I could take it.

  • @AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz
    @AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz 7 месяцев назад +2

    was the animation really bad though?
    yeah it goes off model often but it also makes most of the other shows at the time look like moving circles and triangles by comparison.

    • @christopherauzenne5023
      @christopherauzenne5023 7 месяцев назад

      Yeah, objectively for its time it’s solid action cartoon animation, not like super impressive as Batman could get but in the end with what it had things felt solid and not like cardboard moving which put it above a good number of other shows

  • @Gainoffuntion
    @Gainoffuntion 6 месяцев назад

    I just gate the way all stories throw out the "show dont tell" stuff. I dont need a character to explain how they feel. Show me. Facial features body laguage. Anything better than what they like to do and beat you over the head with them saying how they feel. It makes me angry! Im angry! Roar. I was 6 minutes into 97 and iv already lost hope. Ill still watch. But they did gambit dirty already.

  • @excaliber8713
    @excaliber8713 6 месяцев назад

    Still amazing

  • @kristinalauren4904
    @kristinalauren4904 7 месяцев назад

    Where can I watch it? I don’t have Disney Plus.

  • @Uatu-the-Watcher
    @Uatu-the-Watcher 6 месяцев назад

    I might be able to see why you think the animated Dark Phoenix story is better than the comics.
    The major point blocking that are two words making one name.
    John Byrne.

  • @willwidrick8039
    @willwidrick8039 7 месяцев назад

    Agreed 100%

  • @tiborkovacs5317
    @tiborkovacs5317 7 месяцев назад

    Good vid thanks.

  • @nicodemous52
    @nicodemous52 7 месяцев назад +2

    I just recently sold them, but I went back a year or two ago and re-watched this whole series. It starts off strong and gets worse as it goes. It mostly holds up. It's got some rough edges but that's mostly age.

  • @Five0f5even
    @Five0f5even 7 месяцев назад

    Narratively, yes. Animation, no. I grew up watching it but i have to admit somethings dont stand up to the test of time.

  • @jasonknight8581
    @jasonknight8581 7 месяцев назад

    80's cartoons didn't have any depth or couldn't handle anything challenging and had to be made so a two year old could watch? Guess you never saw the Saturday morning Dungeons and Dragons cartoon, or that episode of Bravestarr where a kid died after overdosing on drugs.

  • @MAD-DUKE
    @MAD-DUKE 5 месяцев назад

    Wow spoiler alert? I watched it as a kid, the rewatch is very hard in the first season, cleans up much better by the 3rd.

  • @angelarch5352
    @angelarch5352 7 месяцев назад

    Dated "AND" amazing, not "OR" :)

  • @biguy617
    @biguy617 7 месяцев назад +1

    I love this series but Jubilee is annoying. She is sounds too childish in the series and always needs to be rescued. Regardless 8 think this series is as good as the DC animated stuff.

  • @randomgeekcrap
    @randomgeekcrap 7 месяцев назад +1

    The only outted thing about this show is the animation but they hold up but story wise this show was always ahed of its time's

  • @bladerunner3314
    @bladerunner3314 7 месяцев назад +2

    Being honest, instead of '97 they should'e given us W&tX second season with no "modern changes" but as it was intended.
    To this day I have X-Men comics starting with X-Cutioner's Song, back issues for Phoenix Saga and Mutant Massacre up to Operation Zero Tolerance where I stopped due to money and my shop being unreliable. Today? I probably wouldn't start ...

  • @infinite_ammo
    @infinite_ammo 6 месяцев назад

    I was watching the first episode and I had to stop when I saw the scene where the huge Sentinel is hiding in plain sight just by standing flat against a building. I get that it's a kids show but is just badly written and the dialogue is akward... you're all just blinded by nostalgia.

  • @Thomaswake
    @Thomaswake 7 месяцев назад

    I rewatched it not too long ago and for the most part it doesn't really hold up to me but I still love it overall

  • @dallassegno
    @dallassegno 7 месяцев назад +1

    It's not dated but it sucks. Wow i watched it and had to stop. Super powers are so illogical it hurts to watch.

  • @Gardetrace
    @Gardetrace 7 месяцев назад

    Damn, it's been that long? Still not as long as the drought with Superman as it's 27 years between Superman the Animated Series and My Adventures With Superman.