Hey guys! Jorn here from Spinnin'. There's one thing I want to explain better on Big tip 2: vocal. I advise you to use samples as you break through quicker with a sample than an original recording but we are absolutely not against using new vocals at all. It’s just a tip to break through quicker. Cheers!
Won’t using samples be more difficult to break through being that clearing them for small independent artists is very difficult and therefore won’t be able to go on Spotify or any streaming platform due to copyright?
Well, here's the thing. Splice and similar services are full of vocals that have been overused by this point, especially all the solid ones. I know a handful of labels who won't sign your record if you have those type of vocals in your track. On the other hand, clearing samples is a total nightmare and even more so for small artists. Recording original vocals is pretty much the only viable way to go but it's incredibly hard and costly too, especially if you are doing it for hire. There are no easy ways but if you have deep pockets then power to you.
Thanks for the clarification! I was really confuses by this. Like as a beginning producer with no mic and not knowing a lot of good singers, I really enjoying using vocal samples from sample packs for an example. Also I use Splice sometimes
Hey Jorn! Thank you for the free advice and all I ask is for one more piece of it I'm sorry hahaha I just got my first production placement on a professional project for the first time for a decently popular artist. Is there any advice on where I should go from here to keep finding placements? I'm afraid that straight up asking the rapper for connects that I can send more beats to comes off as greedy or like I'm using him. Thank you for the great advice as it's crucial for me at the moment as I finally am getting professional with my music production after almost a decade of doing this. I also am more of an old school hip hop sample flipper so this brings me comfort hearing this. I know hip hop isn't Spinnin's genre but I know your advice is valuable regardless. Again, thank you for being genuine and spreading valuable knowledge!
@@sk33t_38 i don’t think you need to straight up ask the rapper for connects. You can do this later? Also, if the track is fire and big, connections will also coming to you. Like the connections of the rapper. But that’s my advice and I’am defently not Jorn!
This is the guy who believed in me from day one and we still work together today. He’s one of the most authentic people in the industry and a true lover of music. Love you Jorn!
Let's not forget that this guy (while a nice guy and good at his job) is still working for the music "business". This is an industry machine that focuses on profit over fostering art. It's "big music", and there's a lot of workforce and connections outside of an artist's talent that helps propell people. Then they make it look like it was just the artist, when it was not.
"in sync with what the world wants" ... So glad that I don't have to care about the music business. I can make music for myself and not care what "the world" wants, even if I believed such a thing was possible. If someone else likes what I make, cool. Very glad I don't have to care about these things... Having said that, for all the folks seeking to be in the business of entertainment, I understand that this video is extremely valuable. From that perspective -- good stuff.
Awesome tips from the legend himself! I can’t wait to listen to all the demo’s I’m sure people will surprise me in really good way. So much talent out there!🔥
Hey Mr. Sol State, just wanted to write a quick thank you. Your videos are so good, and always add that extra layer of information that is helpful. Stay as perfectly mixed as you are.
Spinning records: we want music that will fit the mold. Atlantic: we want music that will set a new bar. Just make the best music YOU love. If it fits the mold, great, if it doesn’t, great, as long as it’s the best product you or a team can make!
The only problem I have with “making” songs for a specific label like Spinnin is that you’re making a song with the sound of the label in your mind. When you try to fit in a current trend or genre that a label is looking for don’t limit yourself, don’t choose a kick or clap based on the taste of a label. This won’t flow you’re creativity
I have a bunch of music in process that is quite uniquely my sound and I just can’t even find a label that it could fit into. That’s why I am going to make my own “label” and post my songs through it (alongside other music that is similar to my taste). It’s a long game but if I can build the label up then it could serve as the ideal avenue for my music and style.
@@AnymMusic Don't see a point to it. I only work with medium and large labels because smaller ones do not provide good enough leverage to justify the revenue split - I can achieve better marketing performance on my own. And there are not that many solid size labels for my music genre, so it is what it is.
I think that tip about using sampled vocals can also be boiled down to simplicity. If you guys want to use original vocals, make them simple and catchy, something someone will be able to hear and sing by the second drop.
"Keep working hard, and with passion...Always" That's what I do, and someday It's fix your sound, your style, to an Label! I think is not about "the perfect song" but "your own perfect state" When you grow as a person, your sound grows with you, and I think that's the point. Thanks for the video, all the way up!💯💯
The tip about the dubbed version is something I've never heard of before. Definitely something to consider when releasing different versions of your track.
Great question man. I personally think it doesn't matter for building your audience, but for people that can sign you, I think if you have a strong mix with a great concept, it will always be better. But, I think it's incredibly important you can create your own audience
@@johnp9916 definitely, but I think this depends on how you pitch the song; as an artist or potential songwriter for another artist. If you pitch it as an artist it makes more sense to send a fully finished/mixed/mastered song, since there is no second chance to make a first impression
Each and every step involved in making a song is important. From composing, arranging to mixing and mastering, it's all strangely interconnected in my opinion.
This is a great insight and confirms why my music will only ever be self released. I will never let anyone get in the way of my creativity. I’m not saying my music is even good enough. I’m just determined to never make any compromises for anyone. Loving all your videos by the way!
So true! This is what is the problem with the labels. They are basically telling you what to do. And one more thing nobody talks about is that if you release on a big label you DON'T OWN YOUR MUSIC. And that's crazy. And in most cases even big labels don't do sh when it comes to promo. They might post the music video on their social media ONCE and that's it. Like what's the point releasing on a label not ownining your music and not having control over your promo? You are 100% right mate! Self release only :) Btw What kind of music do you make?
Cool and insightful video. The pointers here have made me think about newer approaches towards making and putting out music. Thanks for this video mate!
Wow. That’s a different point of view. Like the a&r on stmpd suggest to the artist to make the music you feel. The spinnin One suggest more to think also in a kind of business way. They are 2 different realities to me, don’t you think that?
Don't follow trends. Do what you love and hope that others will like it too. Trust in yourself. Don't follow, lead; create new markets. Forge new territory. Give the audience what they always wanted but never knew it before you came along.
At 6:10, the tip with the vocal, does he mean sending them a cover of an old song, as in recording a new vocal with the lyrics from an old hit (which seems to be a recipe for the slap house tracks). Or could it be sampling a track, or using an acapella from an existing track? From what I've read, most labels don't want bootlegs/remixes or edits sent to them in their demo drop. Just interested in what he meant there.
hi anton, i will explain a bit more....1 on 1 samples or bootlegs don't work anymore...but you can use only the melody of an old song and create a complete new top line on top of it...i call this creative sampling...so you still hear something familiar but people cant put their finger on it directly...i hope it more clear now. all the best! jorn
@@lando199 hi anton, these 2 record are great examples of creative cover / flips / interpolations: Yves V x Icona Pop - We've Got That Cool feat Afrojack, another one is Topic x ATB - Your Love (so the atb classic melody with on top of it a complete new song). I hope this helps : )
I'm just amazed how he is talking about not taking too much risk and at the same time wearing Sonic Youth's t-shirt. :) I mean, really? Maybe it would be good for A&R's to take some more risk from time to time.
Great video! but I have to disagree with some of the points. I think that the downside of releasing on a label is creative restriction. If I want to release something completely new and fresh I can do that if that's self-release. And I am sure if you work on your marketing and promo there WILL be people who WILL like this new sound. Why extending trends when you can make your own? I think that music nowadays is flooded with remixes, covers and we lack good original music. I'm not against that at any point and I do like making remixes but definitely believe that artists should build and grow their own fanbase. This way you don't have to ask anyone what to do. You are own boss. I wouldn't reject an offer if a label contacted me, but I'm not going to send them demos intentionally :)
Hi Fluxeon, sure and original music is super important, we release a lot original as well but the notes in the video are tips to get noticed quicker...speed up the possible signing & acceptation process...but of course you can grow and get discovered via fresh new tracks!!! good luck with you productions and all the best! jorn
Thoughtful disagreement is a good thing. The way i like to think about this is by setting goals - do you want to innovate or fit a label? Either works. You sound like an innovator, so go make the trends! Worth noting what Jorn said about video context.
@@SolStateMusic I agree with you mate! Good point here. It depends in what you want to do and achieve. I loved the video too! Keep up the great work bro, I enjoy watching your videos. Do you make music yourself? :)
I would love clarification on the Vocal Sample topic. Is he referring to the use of vocal samples of known songs or vocal samples you encounter in sites like splice? Because the first option seems like a nightmare to make viable
Hi Kookycloud, both can work well but if you want to get exposed quicker, samples of older record can speed up this process...but not...if you do it the right creative way...you need to reaction like: i know this but i can't put my finger on it! Then you can have a winner. We help artist clearing the publishing rights if we like the record....many artist broke though this way in the past....so that's just a tip to get noticed quicker....Or create a completely new trends yourself, that's the coolest of course but not super easy : ) i hope this helps. all my best, jorn
3:40 honestly I'd say send it as well to labels that you don't know if it fits or not. labels won't do new genres, if people don't send them new genres. "oh but idk if it fits the label" how cares really? be the first to release your style/genre on that label instead of waiting for someone else to beat you to it. maybe the label like it and takes it, dope! maybe they don't, that's fine. you know it for next time sorry but it does kinda feel like this is pure business advice. "don't take risk, play it safe." really? oh no sorry, take a "bit" of risk like Tiësto with The Business? how was that a bit more risky? it felt just like other slap house tracks in vibe. if that is "a bit of risk", then idk what "playing it safe" would look like don't use new vocals? seriously? you WANT boring, overused, and bland vocals? that's how you get hated genres LIKE slap house man. all the advice seems to be "be original, but actually please don't."
Hey Anym, Jorn here from Spinnin'. There's one thing I want to explain better on Big tip 2: vocal. I advise you to use samples as you break through quicker with a creative sample idea (don’t sample 1 on 1) than an original recording but we are absolutely not against using new vocals at all. We always balance this very well with our artists. It’s just a tip to break through, get noticed quicker. Creativity so important, also if you use a sample…try to do something special with it. So please don't get me wrong here...most of our song releases are originals. All my best!
@@jornheringa that I can totally agree on. they're also often a bit easier to work with with the lack of needing to come with lyrics that flow well, then record them to a good degree, etc. tho the issue for me often comes when you use kinda standard, and boring feeling lyrics that don't really add anything to the song.
So when it comes to record releases and demos. Are you just...not supposed to upload it to spotify if you are trying to get it infront of a record label? Do they upload on your behalf? Im just wondering how and what these record labels would actually do for an artists and the benefits.
Thanks great video but I think its depressing. You need to be good social and networking. You need to be young. You connot be (too) original. You should use old vocals. A single track is not what they want. So basically they are a marketing machine that wants to milk the young artist that is still malleable for a long time only for the biggest audience that is not interested in new and original things. I understand how it works and in a way I can't blame them but I think it's depressing.
For them, yes. Doesn’t mean it’s the only way in. The possibility’s for independent artists are better than ever and the resources for anyone to make music are becoming more and more open. Labels want you to think they’re the only way but it’s not true anymore.
That’s the Spinnin’ filosophy. Not a bad one, but trust me when I say that age really doesnt matter. How much is David Guetta? In his 60’s right? I know he was younger when he became famous maybe, but still people are going crazy for him till this day
For Spinnin, yes. That's what they do, that's what they have always done since the Martin Garrix days. I had no interest in releasing on Spinnin anyway, but now it's definitely set in stone
@@mikeyfightz Seems like the business side is hindering artists from evolving massively. That's why everyone is trying to copy other artists instead of pushing boundaries. I'm glad there are unique artists like Alon Mor always pushing boundaries giving zero fcks for the business side of things..
@@SolStateMusic So if you have a unique sound you are better off founding your own label releasing your music there if you don't fit into the mainstream?
Your comment is like a person going to McDonalds to complain that they only sell burgers. If you're a unique musical artist there are hundreds of other labels. Like a gourmet restaurant.
Is it bad to be submitting demos with vocals? I make tracks with vocals from royalty free packs, so I was wondering how important that tip of using known vocals is?
Have a listen to what the labels that you want to submit to are releasing. If they aren’t releasing many tracks with original vocals, then it’s probably not something they are looking for.
This is super informative Sol State! It could be cool to see more vids like this, maybe somthing like tips on making a drumkit for Splice or Black Octopus
Hey guys! Jorn here from Spinnin'. There's one thing I want to explain better on Big tip 2: vocal. I advise you to use samples as you break through quicker with a sample than an original recording but we are absolutely not against using new vocals at all. It’s just a tip to break through quicker.
Cheers!
Won’t using samples be more difficult to break through being that clearing them for small independent artists is very difficult and therefore won’t be able to go on Spotify or any streaming platform due to copyright?
Well, here's the thing. Splice and similar services are full of vocals that have been overused by this point, especially all the solid ones. I know a handful of labels who won't sign your record if you have those type of vocals in your track. On the other hand, clearing samples is a total nightmare and even more so for small artists.
Recording original vocals is pretty much the only viable way to go but it's incredibly hard and costly too, especially if you are doing it for hire.
There are no easy ways but if you have deep pockets then power to you.
Thanks for the clarification! I was really confuses by this. Like as a beginning producer with no mic and not knowing a lot of good singers, I really enjoying using vocal samples from sample packs for an example. Also I use Splice sometimes
Hey Jorn! Thank you for the free advice and all I ask is for one more piece of it I'm sorry hahaha I just got my first production placement on a professional project for the first time for a decently popular artist. Is there any advice on where I should go from here to keep finding placements? I'm afraid that straight up asking the rapper for connects that I can send more beats to comes off as greedy or like I'm using him. Thank you for the great advice as it's crucial for me at the moment as I finally am getting professional with my music production after almost a decade of doing this. I also am more of an old school hip hop sample flipper so this brings me comfort hearing this. I know hip hop isn't Spinnin's genre but I know your advice is valuable regardless. Again, thank you for being genuine and spreading valuable knowledge!
@@sk33t_38 i don’t think you need to straight up ask the rapper for connects. You can do this later? Also, if the track is fire and big, connections will also coming to you. Like the connections of the rapper. But that’s my advice and I’am defently not Jorn!
This is the guy who believed in me from day one and we still work together today. He’s one of the most authentic people in the industry and a true lover of music. Love you Jorn!
Legend ,u also watch this channel? Damn,Sol State is doing such an amazing job
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@@IFTHENGEO clearly, we all have to educate every possible second in every possible way :)
Kshmr - legend, no doubt:)
Dam KSHMR I buy all your sample packs.
Jorn is just the best in the game ❤️
thx for the kind word my friends, cant do it without you guys and the great music!!!!
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@@tylerdurden6220 haha, thx : )
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Let's not forget that this guy (while a nice guy and good at his job) is still working for the music "business". This is an industry machine that focuses on profit over fostering art. It's "big music", and there's a lot of workforce and connections outside of an artist's talent that helps propell people. Then they make it look like it was just the artist, when it was not.
Spinnin A&R: "Don't copy what's already there"
Spinnin Records:
i was thinking the same thing
Literally
"in sync with what the world wants" ...
So glad that I don't have to care about the music business. I can make music for myself and not care what "the world" wants, even if I believed such a thing was possible. If someone else likes what I make, cool. Very glad I don't have to care about these things...
Having said that, for all the folks seeking to be in the business of entertainment, I understand that this video is extremely valuable. From that perspective -- good stuff.
Awesome tips from the legend himself! I can’t wait to listen to all the demo’s I’m sure people will surprise me in really good way. So much talent out there!🔥
Oh so you're the superstar dj xD
well I,m a 52 years old producer, probably I´ll never get signed with a record label, BUT, I will be making House music because I LOVE IT. thanks.-
That's awesome & inspiring, keep having fun!
Dude you’re actually doing gods work with these videos, bless up bro so glad to have found your channel!
Thanks for stopping by :)
Great content, great interview 👏
Thanks!
Great content, man! What an awesome vid 🙌
Hey Mr. Sol State, just wanted to write a quick thank you.
Your videos are so good, and always add that extra layer of information that is helpful.
Stay as perfectly mixed as you are.
Thank you, for real! Always learning too, so if you ever have any feedback on future videos feel free to let me know
Spinning records: we want music that will fit the mold.
Atlantic: we want music that will set a new bar.
Just make the best music YOU love. If it fits the mold, great, if it doesn’t, great, as long as it’s the best product you or a team can make!
The only problem I have with “making” songs for a specific label like Spinnin is that you’re making a song with the sound of the label in your mind. When you try to fit in a current trend or genre that a label is looking for don’t limit yourself, don’t choose a kick or clap based on the taste of a label. This won’t flow you’re creativity
100%
I have a bunch of music in process that is quite uniquely my sound and I just can’t even find a label that it could fit into. That’s why I am going to make my own “label” and post my songs through it (alongside other music that is similar to my taste). It’s a long game but if I can build the label up then it could serve as the ideal avenue for my music and style.
@@RobVice I'd say just send it to random labels, see which likes it
@@AnymMusic Don't see a point to it. I only work with medium and large labels because smaller ones do not provide good enough leverage to justify the revenue split - I can achieve better marketing performance on my own. And there are not that many solid size labels for my music genre, so it is what it is.
Limitations and deadlines are great for creativity in my experience. I think the key question is whether YOU are happy with the process & result.
I'll say it again, best music production (?) channel on RUclips without a doubt.
Thanks! Won't argue with Gandalf ;)
This might be my favourite channel on RUclips
Wow thanks! Tell a friend
I think that tip about using sampled vocals can also be boiled down to simplicity. If you guys want to use original vocals, make them simple and catchy, something someone will be able to hear and sing by the second drop.
you're really going the right way with this channel, man ! *Amazing, brother !*
🙌
"Keep working hard, and with passion...Always"
That's what I do, and someday It's fix your sound, your style, to an Label!
I think is not about "the perfect song" but "your own perfect state"
When you grow as a person, your sound grows with you, and I think that's the point.
Thanks for the video, all the way up!💯💯
Think your onto something :)
The tip about the dubbed version is something I've never heard of before. Definitely something to consider when releasing different versions of your track.
Sol state is always consistent with the value
Glad that's coming through! Trying my best :)
I'm so glad this channel is so consistent with the value it brings. Thank you so much
I'd like to know, how important is a strong mix? At what point does music stand on its own based on its concept vs being technically proficient?
Great question man. I personally think it doesn't matter for building your audience, but for people that can sign you, I think if you have a strong mix with a great concept, it will always be better. But, I think it's incredibly important you can create your own audience
A great mix isn’t going to save a bad song is what my philosophy has always been. Songwriting is far more important
@John P much better reply right there
@@johnp9916 definitely, but I think this depends on how you pitch the song; as an artist or potential songwriter for another artist. If you pitch it as an artist it makes more sense to send a fully finished/mixed/mastered song, since there is no second chance to make a first impression
Each and every step involved in making a song is important. From composing, arranging to mixing and mastering, it's all strangely interconnected in my opinion.
congrats on this video man great job, great questions, and great editing
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This is a great insight and confirms why my music will only ever be self released. I will never let anyone get in the way of my creativity. I’m not saying my music is even good enough. I’m just determined to never make any compromises for anyone. Loving all your videos by the way!
So true! This is what is the problem with the labels. They are basically telling you what to do. And one more thing nobody talks about is that if you release on a big label you DON'T OWN YOUR MUSIC. And that's crazy. And in most cases even big labels don't do sh when it comes to promo. They might post the music video on their social media ONCE and that's it. Like what's the point releasing on a label not ownining your music and not having control over your promo? You are 100% right mate! Self release only :) Btw What kind of music do you make?
You do you and don't apologize! This is more of a video for people that want help getting heard/noticed
Love the Sonic Youth shirt and Kurt's poster in the background!
Damn that’s a really interesting guest to have on the channel!
Thanks! I saw so many videos claiming "how to get signed" I figured why not just ask the guy who actually makes the decisions!
ThErE's No AgE tO gEt StArTeD
Jorn: we're looking for artists at a very young stage
Me: -_-
Love these tips man....sincerely such a godsend on RUclips.
I appreciate that!
this guy is what we (not) in the business would call an industry hack
Really enjoyed this one. Gained some great, valuable insight about the inner workings of the A+R process. Cheers Sol! Cheers Spinnin'!
Gold mine. This channel is a gold mine love you sol state
Cool and insightful video. The pointers here have made me think about newer approaches towards making and putting out music. Thanks for this video mate!
Great to hear! Best of luck :)
This is what most labels are lacking. Absolutely no feedback at all usually and this results in feeling lost and demotivated.
That's the whole point of this video - revealing what labels really want!
Super insightful bro, thanks for making this
Wow. That’s a different point of view. Like the a&r on stmpd suggest to the artist to make the music you feel. The spinnin One suggest more to think also in a kind of business way. They are 2 different realities to me, don’t you think that?
Hey Marco, that's what i advise as well. I just give you guys some notes to to get noticed quicker. It are just some tips : ) all my best, jorn
@@jornheringa and it’s something i’ve really appreciated
Don't follow trends. Do what you love and hope that others will like it too. Trust in yourself. Don't follow, lead; create new markets. Forge new territory. Give the audience what they always wanted but never knew it before you came along.
Hey man how do we legally sample/remix vocals? I’ve been trying to figure this out for years
At 6:10, the tip with the vocal, does he mean sending them a cover of an old song, as in recording a new vocal with the lyrics from an old hit (which seems to be a recipe for the slap house tracks). Or could it be sampling a track, or using an acapella from an existing track? From what I've read, most labels don't want bootlegs/remixes or edits sent to them in their demo drop. Just interested in what he meant there.
hi anton, i will explain a bit more....1 on 1 samples or bootlegs don't work anymore...but you can use only the melody of an old song and create a complete new top line on top of it...i call this creative sampling...so you still hear something familiar but people cant put their finger on it directly...i hope it more clear now. all the best! jorn
@@jornheringa Thank you for clearing that up! So would one use just the melody from the old song in that case? Not the lyrics? all the best, Anton
@@lando199 hi anton, these 2 record are great examples of creative cover / flips / interpolations: Yves V x Icona Pop - We've Got That Cool feat Afrojack, another one is Topic x ATB - Your Love (so the atb classic melody with on top of it a complete new song). I hope this helps : )
@@jornheringa yes chief, gotcha!👌 Thanks for taking the time to explain 🙏
Well done Sol State! Look how you've been growing!!!
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great interview
amazing. Great content has always bro!!! Keep it up, you help us producers more than anyone else!!!.
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I'm just amazed how he is talking about not taking too much risk and at the same time wearing Sonic Youth's t-shirt. :) I mean, really? Maybe it would be good for A&R's to take some more risk from time to time.
Wow this interview was amazing I hope you can do more of these
Thanks, hoping to as well
Great video! but I have to disagree with some of the points. I think that the downside of releasing on a label is creative restriction. If I want to release something completely new and fresh I can do that if that's self-release. And I am sure if you work on your marketing and promo there WILL be people who WILL like this new sound. Why extending trends when you can make your own? I think that music nowadays is flooded with remixes, covers and we lack good original music. I'm not against that at any point and I do like making remixes but definitely believe that artists should build and grow their own fanbase. This way you don't have to ask anyone what to do. You are own boss. I wouldn't reject an offer if a label contacted me, but I'm not going to send them demos intentionally :)
Hi Fluxeon, sure and original music is super important, we release a lot original as well but the notes in the video are tips to get noticed quicker...speed up the possible signing & acceptation process...but of course you can grow and get discovered via fresh new tracks!!! good luck with you productions and all the best! jorn
Thoughtful disagreement is a good thing. The way i like to think about this is by setting goals - do you want to innovate or fit a label? Either works. You sound like an innovator, so go make the trends! Worth noting what Jorn said about video context.
@@SolStateMusic I agree with you mate! Good point here. It depends in what you want to do and achieve. I loved the video too! Keep up the great work bro, I enjoy watching your videos. Do you make music yourself? :)
@@jornheringa Thank you! I loved the video. Thanks for sharing your knowledge guys! I've got a lot of value from your tips :)
@Fluxeon I agree.
I would love clarification on the Vocal Sample topic. Is he referring to the use of vocal samples of known songs or vocal samples you encounter in sites like splice? Because the first option seems like a nightmare to make viable
Hi Kookycloud, both can work well but if you want to get exposed quicker, samples of older record can speed up this process...but not...if you do it the right creative way...you need to reaction like: i know this but i can't put my finger on it! Then you can have a winner. We help artist clearing the publishing rights if we like the record....many artist broke though this way in the past....so that's just a tip to get noticed quicker....Or create a completely new trends yourself, that's the coolest of course but not super easy : ) i hope this helps. all my best, jorn
This is absolutely incredible! Excellent stuff in here to keep in mind and it helped expand my understanding immensely
Great to hear it helped!
Tiesto killed slap house with his “business” track 😂
Such a valuable insight into the industry. Many thanks for making this happen
Thank you :)
I am glad I have subscribed to this channel. Good work
Awesome, thank you!
The best A&R ♥️🔥
That was fresh and insightful to me, thank you 😎🙏
3:40 honestly I'd say send it as well to labels that you don't know if it fits or not. labels won't do new genres, if people don't send them new genres. "oh but idk if it fits the label" how cares really? be the first to release your style/genre on that label instead of waiting for someone else to beat you to it. maybe the label like it and takes it, dope! maybe they don't, that's fine. you know it for next time
sorry but it does kinda feel like this is pure business advice. "don't take risk, play it safe." really? oh no sorry, take a "bit" of risk like Tiësto with The Business? how was that a bit more risky? it felt just like other slap house tracks in vibe. if that is "a bit of risk", then idk what "playing it safe" would look like
don't use new vocals? seriously? you WANT boring, overused, and bland vocals? that's how you get hated genres LIKE slap house man. all the advice seems to be "be original, but actually please don't."
Hey Anym, Jorn here from Spinnin'. There's one thing I want to explain better on Big tip 2: vocal. I advise you to use samples as you break through quicker with a creative sample idea (don’t sample 1 on 1) than an original recording but we are absolutely not against using new vocals at all. We always balance this very well with our artists. It’s just a tip to break through, get noticed quicker. Creativity so important, also if you use a sample…try to do something special with it. So please don't get me wrong here...most of our song releases are originals. All my best!
@@jornheringa that I can totally agree on. they're also often a bit easier to work with with the lack of needing to come with lyrics that flow well, then record them to a good degree, etc. tho the issue for me often comes when you use kinda standard, and boring feeling lyrics that don't really add anything to the song.
leuk je zo een keer te zien man, lang geleden!
you guys are crazyy! So much info!
Better than boring ;)
Business Techno at its finest
Re the using well known lyrics, doesn't that cause all kinds of copyright problems and prevent label release? Unless you wanna do a bootleg
Thanks for the video, there are some real great tips on it
very nice guy!!very honest and very pertinent!! it must be cool to work with such an A&R!!
Love this channel!
This was a really great insight! 🙏
This video is pure Gold !!!!
Shaggy from Scooby-Doo works as an A&R now? Good for him!
Low-key wearing a sonic youth t-shirt and cobain on the wall.
So when it comes to record releases and demos. Are you just...not supposed to upload it to spotify if you are trying to get it infront of a record label? Do they upload on your behalf? Im just wondering how and what these record labels would actually do for an artists and the benefits.
My head keeps spinnin from all these gems he dropping
spinnin ;)
your page is beyond goated
Interesting, thanks for the vid!
That's my dream, I think at that every time I imagine my success began ! :D
Great videos man these are great
Thanks great video but I think its depressing.
You need to be good social and networking.
You need to be young.
You connot be (too) original.
You should use old vocals.
A single track is not what they want.
So basically they are a marketing machine that wants to milk the young artist that is still malleable for a long time only for the biggest audience that is not interested in new and original things.
I understand how it works and in a way I can't blame them but I think it's depressing.
For them, yes. Doesn’t mean it’s the only way in. The possibility’s for independent artists are better than ever and the resources for anyone to make music are becoming more and more open. Labels want you to think they’re the only way but it’s not true anymore.
That’s the Spinnin’ filosophy. Not a bad one, but trust me when I say that age really doesnt matter. How much is David Guetta? In his 60’s right? I know he was younger when he became famous maybe, but still people are going crazy for him till this day
You don't need to fit a label to make great music and have a sustainable career. This is simply one path. If you want it enough, find a way...
For Spinnin, yes. That's what they do, that's what they have always done since the Martin Garrix days. I had no interest in releasing on Spinnin anyway, but now it's definitely set in stone
Do you think I have the potential to get signed or should I put the mic down ?
Thanks for your words jorn
Hi！Guys, I wonder how can a person from outside Nerderlends to go to Spinn' Records when getting signed? Thx
Hey , does spinning records who produce music videos to the demos ?
Thanks for the video. Does Jorn Heringa have a prtivate Soundcloud account?
Don't know, the best way to get heard by him is probably the demo drop or talent pool.
this was really good info, thanks
thanks awesome video, the demo drop doesn't work and says "internal server error"
I hope I make it one day , I really want to share to the world my music and love to the music
Great info💥👈
nice one Jorn !
So if I made Big room house there’s no chance that I will get signed, man I wish I could show my tracks in 2013 :(
damn sol state orginal content lets goo
Solid tips!
thank you sol state
He convinced me when he mentioned Ajax 💪🏻
tried to register for the demo drop but I'm not receiving the activation email back.
Did you try promotions tab or spam folder? That's my guess...
Thanks for this.
So you basically have next to no chance to get signed if you have a unique sound because they are looking for what most people like lol
welcome to the business side of music. at least he was being honest and straight up
@@mikeyfightz Seems like the business side is hindering artists from evolving massively. That's why everyone is trying to copy other artists instead of pushing boundaries. I'm glad there are unique artists like Alon Mor always pushing boundaries giving zero fcks for the business side of things..
Unless you create a trend/sound people like, just like many things on the internet...
@@SolStateMusic So if you have a unique sound you are better off founding your own label releasing your music there if you don't fit into the mainstream?
Your comment is like a person going to McDonalds to complain that they only sell burgers.
If you're a unique musical artist there are hundreds of other labels. Like a gourmet restaurant.
great video, thank you :)
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What does it stand for ?
All i got is:
Passion
Passion
Passion
Thank god for this video
I read "How to actually get HEAD and got excited" 😫😫😫
Hahaha wrong channel
Tbf i've seen some artists on Spinnin with dead af Soundcloud accounts.
Is it bad to be submitting demos with vocals? I make tracks with vocals from royalty free packs, so I was wondering how important that tip of using known vocals is?
Have a listen to what the labels that you want to submit to are releasing. If they aren’t releasing many tracks with original vocals, then it’s probably not something they are looking for.
if the vocal helps the track, send it with a vocal. if it doesn't help the track, make it an instrumental
This is super informative Sol State! It could be cool to see more vids like this, maybe somthing like tips on making a drumkit for Splice or Black Octopus
Thanks for feedback, definitely planning to do more business type videos, artists need to get paid too!