I am happy that everyone survived the ordeal and no lives were lost or major injuries incurred. My question is this: How in the world do you manage to run aground on a reef in the modern era of electronic GPS chart-plotters? Don't Y'all have a navigator aboard somewhere who is supposed to be plotting the ship's course, position and speed at all times, or does everybody just man the winches and race?
Quote you drifterpilot, "How in the world do you manage to run aground on a reef in the modern era of electronic GPS chart-plotters?" Sea chart aren't reliable for some parts of the world, Read : Outside the merchant ship lanes. Some charts are more than 150+ years old, and had never been verified. Other places are simply uncharted, because shipwrecking are so likely to happen that its not worth the risk charting that area of the sea. A vector chart could just show "ocean" - it depends of how the chart plotter software interprets uncharted areas. Old sea charts can easily be several nm off where e.g. a reef really is. At some places depth are unpredictable because currents shift sands on the (shallow) ocean floor. Sometimes skipper/navigator forgets to zoom in to see the details on vector charts, and very important, cross check the course with a look at raster charts, where a reef can be seen - but not on (the zoomed in) details part of the vector chart of the same area. There had been an incident where lot of the above stuff was a reason for a yacht became a shipwreck.
They plotted the course, but nobody zoomed in enough on the plotter to see the small islands in the middle of the ocean. Zoomed out it showed the sea was clear. These islands show on all recent charts. They're not new. That was one of the problems. Only the navigator looked at the plotter. Had more crewmen been allowed to see it, they might have discovered these islands the easy way and not the hard way (hitting them).
What the skipper said is 100% true. He cannot do everyone's job for them. The navigator did not zoom in enough on the map to see the reef. An unforgivable mistake. I certainly would not want to sail with him again
"Sorry about your boat" i suppose what else could you say. So as soon as they left, after they salvaged what they could, does that mean ppl can take what they like, is that how it works?
Wow. Too bad. What a mess. So much "stuff." Beautiful. But man is always trying to punch the shit out of Mother Earth for some reason. Earth misogyny? Or, "when a quart of beer on the beach just doesn't do it for you anymore."
Rather unimpressive version of "the buck stops here". More like "the buck stops here, but I want you to know someone else #*$&ed up - but I take responsibility for the fact that someone else #*$&ed up (that #*$&tard)". If you're gonna blame someone else ... do it. No respect for a captain without the courage to give an unqualified "my fault" in a public statement. It's fine to read whoever was supposed to be navigating the riot act - but this was just the most pusillanimous statement from a leader I've heard in a long while. #notStevenCovey
It was mostly the navigators fault. Sure the skipper could have checked on everyone's work more but, ultimately was the navigator at fault so I think his statement is fine. Navigator got the sack in the end as well and not the skipper.
Radar don't show things below the water line, and also very small thing above the surface. Certain areas of a sea can be *very* are unreliable, so GPS won't help if an area of a sea chart aren't a trustworthy source of information.
I am happy that everyone survived the ordeal and no lives were lost or major injuries incurred.
My question is this:
How in the world do you manage to run aground on a reef in the modern era of electronic GPS chart-plotters?
Don't Y'all have a navigator aboard somewhere who is supposed to be plotting the ship's course, position and speed at all times, or does everybody just man the winches and race?
They didn’t got the new update of maps.
it's someone else's boat
Quote you drifterpilot, "How in the world do you manage to run aground on a reef in the modern era of electronic GPS chart-plotters?"
Sea chart aren't reliable for some parts of the world, Read : Outside the merchant ship lanes.
Some charts are more than 150+ years old, and had never been verified.
Other places are simply uncharted, because shipwrecking are so likely to happen that its not worth the risk charting that area of the sea.
A vector chart could just show "ocean" - it depends of how the chart plotter software interprets uncharted areas.
Old sea charts can easily be several nm off where e.g. a reef really is. At some places depth are unpredictable because currents shift sands on the (shallow) ocean floor.
Sometimes skipper/navigator forgets to zoom in to see the details on vector charts, and very important, cross check the course with a look at raster charts, where a reef can be seen - but not on (the zoomed in) details part of the vector chart of the same area.
There had been an incident where lot of the above stuff was a reason for a yacht became a shipwreck.
They plotted the course, but nobody zoomed in enough on the plotter to see the small islands in the middle of the ocean. Zoomed out it showed the sea was clear.
These islands show on all recent charts. They're not new.
That was one of the problems. Only the navigator looked at the plotter. Had more crewmen been allowed to see it, they might have discovered these islands the easy way and not the hard way (hitting them).
0:23 Sound of the collision.
Nice of the skipper to blame the navigator instead of blaming himself. True leadership !
What the skipper said is 100% true. He cannot do everyone's job for them. The navigator did not zoom in enough on the map to see the reef. An unforgivable mistake. I certainly would not want to sail with him again
@@cesc1495 Totally agree.
You don’t know what you’re talking about and you certainly don’t know WHO you’re talking about.
zooming in is for nerds.
This is Vestas, remember - leadership does not take responsibility for *anything*.
that should buff right out
😂
Sailing at night with no life jackets or harnesses - they where very fortunate IMO
That's a pretty honest edit of the mishap... goosebumps...
How does this happen? Ridiculous.
As a captain or leader you are reliant on the team around you, the buck also stops with you and publicly blaming other people isn't a good look.
Navigator made a rookie error on a pro team. It was the navigators fault. So why not just tell the public how it is.
I guess in the next edition of these boats, in addition to the electronic wizardry they already carry, they are now also going to need sonar! :-)
Where is that reef in google maps?
16°07'19.31" S 59°23'03.87" E
thx
James Deavin
nie działa :-(
16°07'19.31"S 59°23'03.87"E
- to powinno, najlepszy podgląd w widoku Earth :-)
16°48'20.73" S 59°34'29.51" E is even closer
Who put that rock in middle of ocean?
at about 1:11 it goes real bad
"Sorry about your boat" i suppose what else could you say. So as soon as they left, after they salvaged what they could, does that mean ppl can take what they like, is that how it works?
Yes, those are the rules of the seas. It's cheaper to leave it behind than retrieve it in this case.
@@fayvicteaurieuce1625 Wrong!
Only if the owner had declared it a shipwreck, meaning they has no intentention to salvage it.
Wow. Too bad. What a mess. So much "stuff." Beautiful. But man is always trying to punch the shit out of Mother Earth for some reason. Earth misogyny? Or, "when a quart of beer on the beach just doesn't do it for you anymore."
stupid mistake.
For once dramatic is the right word
Rather unimpressive version of "the buck stops here". More like "the buck stops here, but I want you to know someone else #*$&ed up - but I take responsibility for the fact that someone else #*$&ed up (that #*$&tard)". If you're gonna blame someone else ... do it. No respect for a captain without the courage to give an unqualified "my fault" in a public statement. It's fine to read whoever was supposed to be navigating the riot act - but this was just the most pusillanimous statement from a leader I've heard in a long while. #notStevenCovey
It was mostly the navigators fault. Sure the skipper could have checked on everyone's work more but, ultimately was the navigator at fault so I think his statement is fine. Navigator got the sack in the end as well and not the skipper.
geniuses
Vestas Wind will be re-joining the race in Sanya China.
Ow ! Are you sure ?
I hope !
That was the word from VOR at the start of this leg, Hope they fix it in time.
isailwind
Nice !
Good news in this strange world !
Je suis Charlie.
Olivier Joly just checked, Vestas wind just arrived in Italy on jan 26th, theres no way it will make Sanya, hopefully the next port.
Show you that even professionals can run aground!
Just like their turbines... A disaster to happen
Expensive fuck-up! ;0/
Stupid, with gps and radar they ran aground?
Radar don't show things below the water line, and also very small thing above the surface.
Certain areas of a sea can be *very* are unreliable, so GPS won't help if an area of a sea chart aren't a trustworthy source of information.
Don't forget to listen to Set Sail by Vibrant Arm from Amsterdam. Fantastic theme song!! ruclips.net/video/5Thx3KSnvbY/видео.html
Cant u buy a depthfinder for a couple hundred bucks? Start worrying if depth is less than 40 ft….
With the reef it happens suddenly plus these boat cruise at around 20kt...