Did Johan change his opinion of the Gravel Stage? | Tour de France 2024 Stage 9 | JB2
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- Johan and JB break down the first of it's kind gravel sector stage 9. Johan also did some research on what a very young Biniam Girmay was accomplishing even as a junior.
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JB2 is the TDF podcast I'd choose if I could only watch one. Johan's comments on the race and the sport are super insightful, and JB does a great job as moderator.
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I guess JB fell out with Lance 😂
The prep of Visma was so thorough that earlier in the season Jonas did training sessions on Tratnik's bike. This wasn't luck. They planned for the worst scenario.
Nice insight! Really interested where did you see/read/watch that?
This was by far the most entertaining stage so far. Stop the whining, don't forget that professional sports can only exist if they can provide something exciting to watch. Enough snooze fests on perfect conditions. A stage like this once in a while is a welcome change.
Stop whining about the whining. First, if you were bored this year prior to this stage, there is something seriously wrong with you. Second, they changed things up by starting in Italy and starting with tough mountains. Too much new simply for the sake of being new is called Jumping the
Shark. If you transform the show into something it's not, by definition, it's no longer the same. I personally would love to see one stage with the peloton ski jumping. THAT would be different, and I bet it wouldn't even be Roglic who won. Exciting indeed. But also would no longer be the Tour de France. If Merckx didn't do it in a Tour de France, it doesn't belong in one. This is a road race, not cyclo-cross.
@@kjaime7030 Dude, they road a few km's on non-tarmac roads, it was fun. People liked it. Great addition to a Grand tour. There, short and simple to the point communication. Get over it.
Easy to say when sitting on a couch.
Gravel is here to stay in TDF .Gravel is huge growing market . I know Lance thinks it wont last but thats like Blackberry saying touch screens wont take off 😅
@@Foxtrottangoabc Well ... that's all that matters!
It was a great stage. We've seen enough 200km snoozefests. This one provided entertainment and that's what sport should be - entertaining.
No doubt ... screw the riders ... it's all about the folks sitting at home on the couch! See you on the couches!
Thanks for this one JB2 and thanks Johan for the wealth of information you continue to share with us. ❤ 🚴
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JB - better if you keep your hand away from your mouth.
Ok, that's weird. It's a podcast
Great stage for spectators !! the bottle neck scenario was always going to happen on the steep section.
Whilst all the main peloton was still together,
seen it in Paris Roubaix when MVDP & Jorgensen Pulled away on the wet cobbles.
So glad it was not raining yesterday !! or it would have been horrendous unless you were up near the front 👍 great breakdown as always Guys !! Thank you so much love the show👋
As a cycling fans i think it was a amasing stage❤
It was but that’s not the point he’s making. Stupid stages like these could ruin a GC riders season. Daft stage to have in the TDF.
@@peterwalsh5068 - I get it. Changing up The Tour is scary for the GC teams. There is an established path to how to win. But this year, and especially this stage has been exciting from the beginning.
The Tour is won in the mountains, but wouldn't it be amazing to have a year where a rouleur gained time on stages like this?
Lastly, Henri Desgrange's idea of a perfect Tour is one where only one man survives. If we listened to the riders' wants and wishes we probably wouldn't have mountain stages. In 1910 Octave Lapize famously shouted "Murderers! You're murderers!" at the finish of the stage which had gone over the Tourmalet for the first time and finished on the Aubisque. (Fun fact, so many riders had to walk during the stage that there was a 100 franc bonus for staying on your bike throughout.)
Been watching every night guys ... just want to say love the commentary! TY!
Part of the "how does he get stronger?" answer comes from Johan's look into some of the top rider's Strava data that revealed that Pogacar, for example, burned just roughly 400 calories per hour during a recent sprinters stage. That is active recovery watts for even an amateur cyclist.
Best TDF commentary anywhere… Internet, TV, etc… Great discussion… 👍🏻 🚴
Professional athletes are entertainers and that stage was entertaining. No one complained when the riders had to walk up the Koppenberg.
100% ASO wanted some sort of “drama” - they don’t out and out want someone to get hurt, but what do you think happens on cobbles and gravel?
great stage to watch.. so exciting...
JB.. this was an epic stage…we are tired of 200km stages flat with no competition till the last 500m.. ASO should keep gravel. Fans keeps this sport alive and fans love this gravel stages
thanks bro i am a fun of girmay i am Eritrean and so proud of him and he desirve
The first weeks design was perfect for Pog to gain time on Jonas. I have to think that UAE has to be a bit unhappy with the time they have gained so far. Obviously it all depends on Jonas form. If he is riding well the 3rd week should favor him.
Well he did gain time. You have to work within the limits of each stage. First two days were insane hot. 4 there was headwind all the way. 7 more time. Today? It’s a flat stage so not surprising no one gained time. It was still and awesome day today but why should someone expect massive time gaps? Anyways the pressure is on Visma to take time in week 3. We’ll see what kind of pressure their team can apply. Should be great racing.
yea but its not like jonas and Remco did not have to go all out to follow. I think the only one who profited really is Roglic with groups being brought back on Galibier and yesterday
Think of the hypothetical scenario where, in 2025, the riders are allowed to do this stage on a full-blown gravel bike:
- less concerns over punctures and mechanical failures;
- more speed on the gravel surfaces;
- bike brands get to place their gravel products on the most important 'storefront' of all;
- you add an extra point of interest to the race by seeing how the pros give their all on a fat tire bike;
Imo, all advantages! It would be quite a spectacle.
I feel like Johan is behind the times on this one. An amazing race today. Gravel is here to stay by the looks.
He definitely is. Heck, up until the mid 60's I believe most roads looked like that. To complain so much for a few sections of gravel in 1 stage is ridiculous, especially when you see how much more entertaining this stage was compared to the boring snooze fests on perfect roads.
Totally agree. I didn't read this before I commented, but we need more stages like this so different types of riders have chances to win stages. All I heard from riders at the finish was how good it was. The Ultimate Grand Tour should be the ultimate test, so there should be gravel and cobbles every year as much as High Mountains, Flat stages and TT's. If the sport is to move on, its stages like today that will sell it, not 200k flat transitional stages where we have the peloton ambling along until the last 10k. It was a great day for cycling.
This stage as a fan compared to a TT? I wasnt bored. They sometimes walk up Bergs in Belgium.
always great to listen to you two
Without Matteo - Jonas would have lost time
Great show JB2 Johan is the OG! ❤
The best analysis guys!
It’s way to easy to shoot holes in Johan’s take here. Roubaix is 250KMs with 55KMs of cobbles NOT gravel. Pog said it was nowhere near as hard as riding cobbles. The TDF is about finding the greatest cyclist in the world. This was 20 miles of gravel. 20 miles. One of the best stages I have ever seen in a TDF.
Cycling is as much an equipement sport as it is a human performance sport. Everything you can say about gravel, cobbles or weather conditions apply to all situations. It's just a matter of how much. TdF is about endurance, survival. These types of stages belong as much as the next.
TdF didnt even have mountain stages the first what 4 or 5 years? I am sure that riders at the time complained about that as well.
Great comment!
JB great show, keep up the great work. Johann is the goat
If Jorgenson was not there, Jonas was not bringing Pogi back. Credit to the team.
If parts of a course where riders clip oot and run don't belong in cycling, what about the Arenberg Forest, Koppenberg or the Mur de Huy? I've seen clipping out and running cyclists there more than once. And nobody would dare to cancel these races…
nice show:) always enjoyable
Made the same comment on the other pod- It's a one-day race in the middle of a Grand Tour. Everybody loves the one-day classics, but it's one day. You win or lose that day, regardless of what happens. That sort of thing shouldn't be in a three-week race.
This belongs in the tour. No doubt. Thanks for voicing your opinion though. Organizers will have a gravel stage next year too.
Totally agreed!
Why? A GT is supposed to be an 'all round' test of a rider...So riding in pave/ gravel needs to be in. If a rider can't handle it, then they don't deserve to win a GT.......
Cycling isn't just about going uphill for climbers....
Derek Gee was right up there!
good luck for ur soon Sir
Dude,
I think more people drop out or crash out on road stages.
Primos, Remco, Jonas and others were wiped out on one stage.
Tratnik stayed with Jonas the whole time and that was the plan going into the stage.
Sprints are a lot more dangerous than a little bit of gravel!
Don’t see a lie here! But people will come at you with it “doesn’t belong”
Why? Idk man! This stage was awesome and there was 1 puncture all day for the main group. Gimme a break about that being an issue.
Let’s get a gravel stage each year!
Both opinions can be true at the same time. Incredible race for the fans, but it would totally suck if one of the big GC guys got ousted. What is riskier to GC contenders, 60 mph downhill finishes or sliding out in a little gravel. I don't know.. at least with gravel the likelihood of dying is reduced, I'm just not sure introducing gravel increases the risk of abandonment. With that said the UCI got lucky on this stage. It feels like the argument is introducing a peril is worse than a dealing with a known peril; which might not be true.
Two nearly dead boring sprint stages have shown that these stages are needed and the long flat stages need to end. The green jersey needs to go to an all around rider, not a designed sprinter and boring flat stages.
Bro, i do not like long flats either but they are need for GC guys to rest a little...
Most exciting stage literally. Remember sport is entertainment and this shit was entertaining…
Just so u all know. One of the reasons why Jonas, is so good in the last week of the tour, has to do with he´s physics. This is true: He has a bigger heart than the rest of us, so he can pump more blood around the body, and gain an advantage on the rest. This he got from nature, and that is one of the reasons why he is so strong in week 3. This Tour is far from over guys and girls. Cheers from Denmark
Before the atack, Remco was chatting with Pogi, i think they were in agreement to atack and go tt mode to the finish
I get it. Changing up The Tour is scary for the GC teams. There is an established path to how to win. But this year, and especially this stage has been exciting from the beginning.
The Tour is won in the mountains, but wouldn't it be amazing to have a year where a rouleur gained time on stages like this?
Lastly, Henri Desgrange's idea of a perfect Tour is one where only one man survives. If we listened to the riders' wants and wishes we probably wouldn't have mountain stages. In 1910 Octave Lapize famously shouted "Murderers! You're murderers!" at the finish of the stage which had gone over the Tourmalet for the first time and finished on the Aubisque. (Fun fact, so many riders had to walk during the stage that there was a 100 franc bonus for staying on your bike throughout.)
This gravel stage was the most exciting so far. I think the bike and tire setup make a difference. Those guys were on road bikes trying to ride gravel.
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Sincere question for JB2, how is this stage any more difficult/dangerous than the past stages with Paris Roubaix cobbles? Unless the belief is cobbles also shouldn't be in the TdF
Btw. The only thing Jonas said was different from he´s own bike, was the handle, with was a bit to far out for him. They are the same hight, but again, it wasn´t Jonas bike. What a hero he was today. Cheers from Denmark.
Different reach for 100+ km is a huge difference
@@Shadowboost I agree 100% Most riders has costume made bikes.
Could somebody fix the rumbling sound on Johan's microphone please? I love the commentary!
I’m a big fan of Johan but I disagree with his opinion re gravel for the following reasons. 1) Sport is entertainment and this was the most entertaining stage of the Tour for a long time. 2) Gravel, especially this type of gravel, is not that difficult or dangerous. This was not crazy death defying stuff. 3) That location where they had to dismount spoke more to a lack of scouting and preparation for that section. Many riders didn’t realize that side was looser gravel. It was rideable but some people blew it. That adds to the spectacle without endangering lives. The smart well prepared riders ripped up that hill no problem. And that’s how it should be. We need a variety challenges to determine the best riders and best teams. Please keep the gravel stages!!!
Riding on a leased bike for 100 km on the stage that more favorable Pogacar and didn’t lose no time.
Pogacar is screwed.
Yep! Pog probably loses 4 minutes on Tuesday! And 2 minutes more on Wednesday!
We need more stages like stage 9 every year.... we took years to move on from the standard opening week or so of flat stages, and multiple 70k TT's... these stages are the future if cycling wants to broaden its fan base and gain further investment. Can't keep living in the dark ages. Its important to have stages that suit different types of riders not just GC climbers and a dozen sprinters. I bet the classic riders weren't complaining, there should be a more equal balance of stages for all types of riders. Crashes and bad luck can happen on any stage. Its time Grand Tour cycling moved on. One of the best stages I have watched this year.... I'm not greedy I just want more. If your going to win a GT make sure its a proper test of skill as well as how many watts/ kilo you can do uphill.
I am sorry, huge fan, but Johan is wrong on this one. Professional cycling is on life support. Very old demographic. Decreasing viewership. This is the kind of change that is necessary for it to survive. Bad luck is a necessary element of professional sports. Own goals, hail mary passes etc. Logistical nightmare? Look at how ingenuity thrives with teams devising novel plans to mitigate uncontrollable variables. This is how bike racing should be! And when you see riders hiking their bikes, it also made professional cycling so relatable. I mean how many of us don’t hike our bikes on a steep hill. This stage could be a gateway for casual cyclists and viewers to TDF, paving the way for a bigger audience appreciating the sport.
Great tour but that was the worst stage so far…gravel for the GC guys is rolling dice…can you imagine if Jonas had to wait for bike for 3min…Pogi and Remco would have attacked and the rest of the tour would suck
Have Remco & Tadej formed an alliance? Even their talking points are similar.
UCI will give fines for walking your bike…THIS IS NOT A JOKE
Quit whining Johan. This Is modern Cycling. Look at the bikes. I love a bit of chaos and tech riding. Loved the Gravel
Johan you are too smart to think that the ASO or UCI give a damn what the riders or teams think. It's all about product exposure for the sponsors. This was the most interesting stage so far, and would bet viewership was way up.
Imagine it had rained for this stage
when MVdP joined that second group i though game over
Wonder if mvdp like pigeon as well
First, if you were bored this year prior to this stage, there is something seriously wrong with you. Second, they changed things up by starting in Italy and starting with tough mountains. Too much new simply for the sake of being new is called Jumping the
Shark. If you transform the show into something it's not, by definition, it's no longer the same. I personally would love to see one stage with the peloton ski jumping. THAT would be different, and I bet it wouldn't even be Roglic who won. Exciting indeed. But also would no longer be the Tour de France. If Merckx didn't do it in a Tour de France, it doesn't belong in one. This is a road race, not cyclo-cross.
Yohan!!👏👏👏👏👏
JB2s Did you guys actually notice the lack of road furniture out there? And the lack of crashes into such?? Wide open racing for the fans and actually safer for the riders and helps the DS’s stay off the radio pointing out stupid man made traffic objects!
Van der Poel did ride Amstel, Johan. He finished 22nd.
Does it look like they trucked in tons of fines with sand and dragged every section ….?
Didn’t look like anything natural… especially the the color contrast??
🤔groomed gravel?
Who hasn't walked their bike before? ;)
Well not in the tour...unless you're chris from running up the road near the top.
Saw Lance’s show today and this one. This one hands down so much better. Would love to see Sir Bradley with you guys and George. The other guy is so sadly wrapped up in himself. That always away from any
discussion of the Tour.
Nobody on a dirt road in the tour. At least in recent memory.
I’ve never walked my bike in the TOUR DE FRANCE before!
I remember a few stages in the past that were so steep that riders walked their bikes.
"gravel" sections are here to stay, it's not becoming a gravel race, a gravel race is 95% race in gravel. Not even Paris-Roubaix or Strade Bianche are gravel races, they don't even use gravel bikes or gravel tires for those races. It's road cycling, not super-smooth paved road cycling, sometimes there are gravel roads.
Another great episode. These never fail to both inform and entertain. Thank you, JB2! 🙏
It’s about viewership, period..The opinion of the caravan doesn’t matter.
Stupid stage. Top gc rider can lose gc b c he gets a flat and car can’t get through
Nine stages done now.
Vingegaard vs pogacar, v has won 7 of those 9 stages
B c v comes here w subpar fitness, every stage v is coming, v gets stronger, v finds his fitness again
V wins tour stages 14 15, and stage 21 tt, if necessary
Best rider in world, pogacar, can’t win our sports best race
Way to go vingegaard, terrific rider
Ask the fans!!
Mentioning Tom Pidcock makes me think that he desperately needs to leave Ineos, it will kill his career - he looks miserable over the last few months when his schedule was changed. Ineos have made the decision to back Rodríguez and Bernal over Pidcock. Shame as Rodríguez is just a Dani Martinez clone (boring), and Bernal is not the rider he was in in 2019, neither winners, just top ten.
This is like taking a 200m Olympic sprint. And adding some hurdles to the race to make it harder. This is a sprint race not hurdles.
I enjoy strade bianche on TDF with some but. Even the race was hard and stressful, the gravel sectors were not difficult enough to allow attacks. So the question is why to include SB in TDF if the race does not present a problem to the best? It is the same as a sprint race where you cannot attack before last 300m because you will be caught. I don't know who is the winner of this gravel stage, the gravel specialist certainly isn't. We saw that neither the fall of Vlasov, nor the punctured tube of Jonas, nor the complete stoppage of part of the peloton with Roglič did not pose a problem for the best to return in to the race, so even the bad luck is not a counter-argument to have SB on TDF, but the hardens of sectors that not allow significant attacks is. The TDF needs to challenge the best riders in many categories, the beginnings of TDF were on gravel roads, so the gravel is part of the family and with today trends can not be excluded anymore. JB critics on UCI are not justified in this perspective, the race is fresh and entertaining, the UCI is reacting instantly on modern racing trends, so they are no dinosaurs.
Pog attack was tactically questionable, it is ok to bring back Remco, but not attacks with Jonas and his teammate glued on the rear wheel, he repeat old mistake, does he expect the cooperation from Visma?! The problem is not that he attacks, but how he attacks. This may cost him the TDF because Jonas is strong, I don't know how strong the head wind was, but it looked like Pog didn't have strong enough legs to make a difference, and this is already an alarm to change the way he races, where it will be necessary to conserve the energy with essential less blind attacks in the next week.
I like Remco more and more, aerodynamic litle bastard will attack when you least expect it, he is a great champion.
I think Tadej said that headwind was specially annoying yesterday.
The reverence for Johan by pro cyclists is awesome!!!! Legend 🐐
16:03 what is a "palmaris"?
Palmarès is a list of races that a rider has won.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_cycling?wprov=sfti1#P
@@ahashi6 Thanks, I had kept looking up "palmaris" which is a forearm flexor muscle, was wondering how that worked😅
I will be brutaly honest. Sorry if that offends you.
Johan do you like brutal climbs and fast sprints? This is it. Attricion rate is high. What do you think about 21 completely flat stages and no bonus seconds? This is a gladiator sport.
We need stages like this to add excitement and go back to the real purpose of bicycles
Mixed feelings for me. A great stage for fans but potentially unfair for the GC guys. Thank you for the coverage!
Its funny when some rides, cause they are experts on that kind terrain, are saying, that this kind of stages belong to a grand tour, cause the best rides should do it also. What would those riders say, if, for example, all of a sudden a 20 km 8,5% steep high mountain would be added to Paris Roubaix? Mountain are Part of cycling....so that should not be a problem. But I bet, the outcry would be huge!
there are no such mountains in that part of France, and those 'cobbled mountains' that do exist are used the week before in Tour of Flanders.
@@crunchieee9597 Thats not my point
Can anybody link the Outcomes here as my feed just dont find it? Thanks!
I believe Outcomes is only available on season pass thru the wedu website if I'm not mistaken.
@@raylongoria1456 I see thank you :)
"They don't want it." Well, they gave us grand tours where the richest team drives the pace up a mountain and then whoever's left finally races in the last kilometer or two. I don't care what they want.
It's only one stage and teams knew about it for nearly a year. Aren't the cobbles even rougher most of the time?
Don't think he's in support of cobbled stages neither
Cool to watch the gravel stage but doesn’t belong in the TDF… What’s next a mountain bike stage, riding on dirt trails??? 😂
There are a lot of parrallels between a gravel stage like this in the Tour and golf events like the US Open, where the setups are next level difficult. Yes they require planning and yes there is an element of luck, but there is a reason they are incredibly popular and increase awareness of the sport. The whining by teams and riders (same as the pro golfers bitch about tough course setups, hard greens, deep rough, etc.) that there is too much luck involved is total BS. Hell they can get wiped out on any given stage, downhill descent, etc. ASO should continue to add these type of stages despsite the bitching, or teams have the option to sit it out! There were more attacks and compelling watching on this stage, than many I can think of over the years! I think every Tour route should have gravel and cobbles, while they are at it... bring back the TTT!!!
EMBRACE THE CHAOS!!! The Tour SHOULD be stressful!
WTF! Why haven’t you guys commented on Derek Gee? 9th overall and 3rd on the stage on his first TdF! Come on! Disappointed 😢
Pidcock vs The Fish 🐟 He almost biffs it on one of the corners too, I think he bonks his pedal... Super sketchy.
I just don’t know….Strange that Johann expect Jonas to be in top shape during week3, keep in mind that Pogi suffered in week 3 because of his his broken wrist in 2023. I wouldn‘t be surpr. If Jonas will collapse in week 3 due to his bad Crash couple weeks ago.
Just give them true gravel bikes to go through a stage like this. Mitigate risks.
Enjoyed the stage, but definitely no gravel stages should be included in the Tour de France. I fully agree with JB, Lance and all others who is against the gravel stage. Thanks very much Johan. You know better as a Professional cyclist, trainer and manager. Thanks again for your excellent explanation. 👍👍👍🙏🙏🙏♥️♥️♥️
Yes, let's have more of the same perfect roads, perfect conditions, let's not introduce any variables that could possibly make pro cycling more exciting. More boring, yes.
@@Atlas_21 Haha...Yes, cycling isn't for entertainment. He wants cycling to be stuck in the dark ages of an opening week of flat stages and 70K TT's. We need more stages like yesterday not less.
Proof is in the ratings that it does belong. Often johan comes across as the old man on the porch that doesnt like change. The gc needs a twist from the norm of the old team sky years etc that were a drain on the sport. More stages like this as it increases the drama
WOULD you please be so kind as to stop making any more podcasts as I do not have enough time in my day to watch / listen to them all. In between The Move, JB² and La Movida I'm getting little or nothing done in my day to do day.
Thanking you kindly...Gareth Stonier, ex pat Brit in Alicante, Spain. 👏
To win the tour it must be a very complete rider ,otherwise they 'll focus on controlling the mountains and take time in the ITT's .
I agree. No gravel.
Hi from Denmark. Jonas said to Danish TV, that he would rather be without those kind of stages, in a grand Tour. Especially The Tour De France, he said in all honesty. Maybe the stage was more suited to Pogacar and Evenepoel? It seems that way to me, when the 3 of them, was on their own. Jonas did not pull, and as he said afterwards, it wouldn't make any sense for him to do. He rather wait for he´s teammates, and of course it was the right move. Evenepoel, on the toher hand, told the press afterwards, that maybe Jonas didn´t have the balls today, to race with us? Hmm, maybe Remco E. still has a bit of a youngster going on inside, on a few occasions (just saying) ;-) He would surely gain from it, taking time on Roglic, but again, not very smart if a puncture happened? So i think Jonas and Visma, in that situation, played it smart, and the Tour now goes on, with everything resetting. How about that. Cheers from Denmark.
Jonas is a wheel sucker that’s been on amazingly strong team. Which allows him to suck wheels till the very end of the stages. Modern day Cadel Evans. Without Mateo Jonas would’ve been in serious trouble.
@@dorianwaller8796 Remco needs to learn tactics. Attacking with no team support, if any of those guys had a mechanical they were screwed. Bad move.
@@dorianwaller8796he is still the best climber. TDF will always be for the best climbers. Today’s stage is not suited for him
False report. Remco said nothing about lack of balls by v
Tell the truth, don’t start rumors. Br honorable
Remco didn't learn anything from La Vuelta last year he got destroyed
becase you know gianetti does
The only crash happened on tarmac😮😮😮
What is dangerous in cycling is the speed. The gravel slows the pace. Just saying😊
Among the big four, Roglic was the smartest for laying low. The others burned unnecessary matches for nothing.
I really appreciate the perspective and dialogue. However, the TDF without these stages is a race about who is the lightest and best climber! Why wouldn’t a tough gravel stage not be incorporated to make the TDF a true best rider in the world race? Maybe it shouldn’t be just climbers. Keep up the great work guys…love the show!
Yeah; the mountains stop bigger riders from winning. Maybe we should get rid of them as well......
mvdp not 100% yet, probably peaking for the Olympics and World champs after
Have to disagree with Johan- the gravel made for an exciting stage, and the Tour has a long history of racing on gravel.
Gravel in Tour de France seems there's no place, as the same way there's no place for dirty roads in F-1, Indycar, etc. Julian Alaphilippe could have a good opinion about that...
Brother you gonna hate the next few editions. They will all have gravel. Better stop watching now
I love riding gravel and I love watching gravel races, but I agree with Johan. This doesn’t belong in the Tour.
Why doesn’t it?