Does follow thru REALLY matter ? Bonus video!

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  • Опубликовано: 16 янв 2025

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  • @CaptainMikesAdventures
    @CaptainMikesAdventures 8 месяцев назад +5

    Follow through is a good habit, but the reason follow through is important in some scenarios is when you’re trying to spot your impacts

  • @tommykawasaki9676
    @tommykawasaki9676 8 месяцев назад +3

    All points made in the comments about “Why Follow through “ are true & good. One of the other points of “Follow Through” is to eliminate shot anticipation,
    The flinch or bracing just prior to pulling the trigger.
    (I doubt you have that issue, but many do)
    Deep focus on follow through, ultimately does not enable, shot anticipation.
    Shooting is a very individual thing. The general rules of form, are a broad guideline, which works well for most, but not for all.
    I have seen naturally good shooters, transform into astounding shooters, with one well intended bit of advice about form. But I have also seen naturally good shooters completely fall apart with the same well intended advice.
    The bottom line is, you are the trigger man, setting up the shot is up to you & what works for you. Be aware of good form & try the things people offer, one at a time. (Don’t change 2 things at once)
    At the end of the day, your groups on that target, will tell you what works.
    Follow through, took a long time for me to develop, & in fact I shot worse, before I got better. But now I rely on it & it’s very natural to me & my groups improved.
    We all find our own way, in our own time.

  • @jackbolen5001
    @jackbolen5001 8 месяцев назад +1

    I fire, stay in the scope and pull the bolt back and reaquire my target and push the bolt home. I assess the target and decide whether or not I need to shoot again or they are done. I hit a hog at 391 yards. I was still on target with a live round chambered as the hog got up. I was about to send another round and she stumbled and fell back down. I could have shot again if needed. I always acquire two sight pictures.

  • @aaronunterseher1627
    @aaronunterseher1627 8 месяцев назад +3

    Follow through comes from being able to observe your shot impact, increase firing cadence, and make yourself less visible to the target
    It was never intended to affect group size other than firing cadence and maintain point of aim therefore shoot groups faster

  • @davidsimons9132
    @davidsimons9132 8 месяцев назад +4

    Great video. I have been hunting and shooting for 50 years. I learned many years ago that you can make shooting more difficult than if it needs to be. A lesson i learned a long time ago is that i should NOT be surprised when my rifle fires. When i acquired my target, i pull not jerk the trigger. I know when my rifle will fire at all times. Thank you for sharing great information.

    • @TheReallyPleasedDoge
      @TheReallyPleasedDoge 8 месяцев назад

      Oddly enough I have seen people that anticipate the shot and stiffen up so much that the only way they CAN shoot is with the trigger set so light it surprises them and doesn't give the body a chance to tense up. These folk are in for a terrible experience if they ever fork out the $5000 for 6LB magnum rifle.

  • @trevorkolmatycki4042
    @trevorkolmatycki4042 8 месяцев назад +3

    Follow through for target and competition shooting vs hunting are very different things. There are plenty of hunting situations where coming off the scope to view the reactions of the animal with the naked eye while you rack in a new round is better than attempting to stay on target through the scope like is critical for long range competition.
    Seeing where the animal goes after the first shot is the most important factor affecting recovery success. If you are solo with a high recoil hunting rifle dialled up in magnification, attempting competition style follow through can be detrimental not to the first shot quality but detrimental to recovery success. Animals usually boogie hard after the first impact and observing that by whatever means necessary is the number one priority in a hunting scenario.
    If you have a spotter with you, then the shooter is more free to stay on scope to pursue rapid follow up shots. Distance is a huge factor affecting follow up procedure.
    So I don’t think your follow through was wrong per se… I think it shows you are a hunter with different priorities than a PRS shooter.

  • @sjohnson1776
    @sjohnson1776 8 месяцев назад +4

    LOL....doing the math and assuming a 24" barrel and average velocity (from 0 to start to 3000 ft/sec at muzzle) of 2500 ft/sec (just to give an approximation of dwell time), it takes 0.0008 seconds to exit the barrel. We ain't gonna outrun that! Fundamentals folks. Fundamentals. Thanks for bringing us along! Fun demo!!

  • @robertspina1494
    @robertspina1494 8 месяцев назад +2

    My grandsons and I really appreciate the content you’re putting up. I made them a deal that I wouldn’t watch your content without them present they like it so much. They give you credit on what and how you shot, but they also pointed out in the video that your son shot, out to distance that he had good follow-through stayed in the scope didn’t bounce off the trigger to the gun all things they’ve been learning and practicing for. They are able to see their shots at distance on dry ground doing everything right . They commented on how you jump out of the gun and commented that your son shot better than you did with the same rifle of his. They’re discussion today. Was they wanna stay in the gun on the scope squared the gun and try not to pick up any habits that might or might notchange their way they’re shooting. Again, we really appreciate your content. Funny, watching these two with their pellet, guns and bottle trying them out it was pretty comical.

  • @jasonkaye6189
    @jasonkaye6189 8 месяцев назад +2

    At the end of the day by time you feel the recoil and react the bullet already hit its mark.

  • @dougwilkinson-uq3xr
    @dougwilkinson-uq3xr 8 месяцев назад

    You cant prove a theory with one three shot group! Love your channel and please keep them coming.

  • @kyley808
    @kyley808 8 месяцев назад +1

    Bryan litz already proved that your gun will move before the bullet leaves the barrel he has a video

  • @Lowedog1967
    @Lowedog1967 8 месяцев назад +3

    Good shooting! The worse thing you can do in shooting either rifle or archery is get in your head. A long time ago I developed target panic in archery because I had someone tell me I was "slapping" the trigger. I got in my own head about it trying to change the way I released and it took me years to get over it. It even transferred to rifle. You are probably getting these comments because people associate someone lifting their head quickly with poor shooting or commanding the shot like you said.

  • @whyismyusernametaken...
    @whyismyusernametaken... 8 месяцев назад

    There's a video called "The Most Overlooked Aspect Of Accurate Shooting | Navy SEAL | Trigger Manipulation" by an ex Navy Seal that showcases that as long as your aim is good, the trigger squeeze is the most important thing about accurately shooting. This is generally the concept with what you are showing, you showed proper discipline in form while shooting, but the shot leaves the gun before you can react, so follow-through doesn't have a massive impact when it comes to a single shot. There may be pros to follow-through when it comes to follow-up shots, or needing a second shot on target, but in this case it doesn't matter. Your video was a good showcase!

  • @pwmiller5759
    @pwmiller5759 8 месяцев назад +3

    I don’t think it’s hurting you any. Some people just seem to know everything…

  • @Accuracy1st
    @Accuracy1st 8 месяцев назад +1

    The ultimate question is this - moving fwd do you plan on doing improved follow through simply for good technique or no? For me it started with archery. I remember working at a gun and archery shop in Tucson in the early 90s. At that point I had killed an avg of 20 deer per year with my Hoyt and Matthews bows in Alabama for about 4 years. I met this guy in Tucson who worked in the archery area. We went shooting together. Both of us shot really well but shooting longer ranges was new to me but was common out west. Once I bought a new sight and got more pins to shoot out to 80 yards I did really well. The guy told me day after day, "you're doing it all wrong but you are shooting excellent." This really rubbed me the wrong way. No one wants to hear crap like that. I countered with, "I guess I'm doing everything right because for the past 3 weeks I've shot better than you every day. When you have time I'll teach you how to improve." His face turned red. I had an excellent competition shooter teach me in Alabama. On to the point - the guy in Tucson was all about follow through and how you JUST HAD TO HOLD THAT BOW steady long after the arrow was released or you LOSE accuracy. It's just not true and never has been. Once that arrow leaves that string it's on it's own and it wouldn't matter if you tossed it backwards over your head as fast as you could.
    On to firearms. I see it. I don't disagree or agree with it but so often retired snipers in the military or law enforcement or both, competition shooters, etc., teach good technique and follow through. I practice with solid follow through just because it's the way I was taught. However, last weekend I was shooting 2 new Tikka 30-06 Hunter rifles. I have some tame handloads that will work in any factory 30-06 I used in a previous rifle for close range bear hunting so distance precision was not a goal. This ammo shot extremely well in both Tikkas. I decided to have the rifles on bipods, a rear bag rest, and NOT settle up behind the rifle as I always do. I had slight pressure with the recoil pad mid chest and only touched off the trigger. No other body contact. Of course the rifles jumped and bumped to my right (I shoot left handed) and I raised my head up quickly. There was no change in target groups. Still shot 5/8" 3 shot groups. That was my very anorexic test but enough to prove I can't move and the rifle can't move fast enough before that bullet exits the barrel. That's my experience. But at the end of the day, ya look a lot cooler if you have good follow through technique and with a brake or suppressor it is needed to see impacts at long range.

  • @carlwilliams6300
    @carlwilliams6300 8 месяцев назад +1

    I think you do a great job i like your videos keep them coming

  • @lmbear
    @lmbear 8 месяцев назад +2

    I like your videos. You aren't telling anyone they have to shoot a certain way. You don't even tell your son how to shoot. He has a different style than you do, and you let him go with it. That shows what kind of a person you are to me. I personally like to stay on the rifle with my follow through, but that was also drilled into my head, being a competitive trap shooter. Shooting a rifle is much the same way. Stay in the rifle, and follow it through. However, as a hunter, you have to train to immediately chamber another round. Even though we strive for the "one shot kill", we still have to be prepared, if our shot goes awry. I'll personally watch to make sure the bullet is a clean hit on the critter, but I'm always prepared with another round in the chamber. In your videos, you are coming completely off the rifle. In a hunting situation, I hope you don't do that. It's all in your training and experience though. You do what works for you.

  • @carlwilliams6300
    @carlwilliams6300 8 месяцев назад +1

    IMO I think the one thing that causes issues in shooting is the dreaded flinch and you do not do that at all so you keep them videos coming buddy I have learned some things from your videos 👍

  • @brendavanorden9550
    @brendavanorden9550 8 месяцев назад +1

    So watch some the big name shooters on youtube. They have a very light touch on the rifle. Meaning little to shoulder pressure, same for cheek pressure. And no thumb wrap. These guns weigh alot and have very light triggers. Not the same as a hunting rifle. Heavier triggers usually in the # range not oz. Under 10 pounds and a stock that is tapered upwards to the butt plate. Not parallel to the barrel. So with a statement below that figures .0008 seconds to the end of the barrel. As long as you use the same form, the shot will too. Form is everything from swinging a golf club to shooting. I could go on forever but you get the idea. By the way no two hunting shots will be the same. Great vid.

  • @petethomas5976
    @petethomas5976 8 месяцев назад +1

    Sir as an old marine I was try to rattle you cage because consistency when shooth dose mater I spent my marine time be hind an m40a3 and people want to shot the most forgiving caliber out there instead of just learning to shoot properly I prefer to stay on the rifle spot my shot in case a correction is need and make the correction and send the next round down range if me upsetting you makes you a better shooter you can thank me latter

    • @elevationrifles
      @elevationrifles  8 месяцев назад

      🤘Hey it wasn’t just your comment:) I had plenty others lol

  • @rudybyler6273
    @rudybyler6273 8 месяцев назад +1

    Love your video’s bro!!
    My theory is,, follow through or no follow through!
    Does not make a difference 🤷‍♂️

  • @jonarnett3018
    @jonarnett3018 8 месяцев назад +1

    Its not a matter of when your head comes off of the rifle. Other parts of your body move before the shoot goes off. That's the point of follow through. Its basic shooting fundamentals. follow through is just part of it.

  • @TheReallyPleasedDoge
    @TheReallyPleasedDoge 8 месяцев назад +1

    I've got a large selection of rifles that I shoot 1/2 MOA even up to larger recoil like the 300PRC - but recently had a few surprises when I picked up an ultralight 7PRC. I've had to relearn to shoot just for this one rifle everything is so different. Seems any difference in grip/hold or shoulder pressure will throw a "flier" out of your half MOA group. Never saw such a picky firearm but lemme tell ya - if you want to test your position and consistency try a 5LB rifle prone.. especially if it's got a folding stock that introduces slop if its not held exactly the same every shot.

  • @xforce708
    @xforce708 8 месяцев назад

    Archery, aaahhhh. For near 40 years I’ve chased that sport. Tried my hand with hinge style releases, weight releases, thumb buttons and all. But I finally decided that I’m a command shooter. It’s works for me. I’m no Kyle Douglas or Tim “The Hammer” Gillingham but am a respectable archer. It’s a trained discipline, whichever one chooses and I’d suppose that certain brains train better with the different formats. One of my best friends can’t shoot an index trigger to save his life. A hinge is all his Crain can tolerate. Lol

  • @JeRKII
    @JeRKII 8 месяцев назад +1

    I did see said comment ( at least 1 of them ). This is an awesome video as to prove technique is important but not necessarily a 100% fact.
    There is another guntuber that het crap because of a shooting bench if you go and watch these video's atthe slowest speeds you can for me is .25% at the time of shot as you are showing here the projectile has left long before ( well in the speed of the projectile at .25% it seens long ) you ever move. Now that being said it's going to take another guntuber channel that has the high speed equipment to actually be able to prove this...
    And I think in a war time scenario where you aren't firing 1 round only not following through is where it's most important

  • @ronws2007
    @ronws2007 8 месяцев назад

    I do believe in follow through only because it is to lead to not flinching. As you showed, groundhog of the cheek rest did not affect the grouping too much. And it is not the end of the world if you do because you simply cannot beat the bullet except by flinching beforehand and slapping the trigger.
    That being said, I shoot at an indoor range and I am likely to lift of the cheek riser after the shot because I am looking at the monitor that is near the 100 yard max. Not as fast as you did here but others might see it as poor follow-through. Because I am not looking for trace, I am looking for precision. How tight is the group.
    Other times I have mulliganed a shot and I know it is because I jerked the rifle with my cheek still on. So, lifting the cheek had nothing to do with the flier.
    So, really, a lot of people recite legend and catechism, as it were and never look at it analytically.

  • @suprema-sea_fishing
    @suprema-sea_fishing 8 месяцев назад

    The differnce in groups is more than likely due to the cold barrel on the first shot. 2-3 minutes of cool down is not enough time for the barrel to completely cool. Follow through had nothing to do with the variation in groups that small at 550yds. Good shooting.

  • @lanecoffey1310
    @lanecoffey1310 8 месяцев назад

    It doesnt matter so much about what happens after the ignition its all about the procedure up to the point of ignition.....

  • @lawrence9447
    @lawrence9447 8 месяцев назад

    1inch of straight back recoil and follow through is over. That's what you need no matter what position or set up your shooting from.

  • @williamgaines9784
    @williamgaines9784 8 месяцев назад

    With that seatbelt behind your back, you are MUCH more likely to have your body follow through the windshield or out the window. Especially with your distraction of videoing yourself.

  • @rubenrodriguez7266
    @rubenrodriguez7266 8 месяцев назад

    It’s not about whether you can group or not. You’re a good shooter, but you’re missing the point.
    This is about gathering your info from the shot, seeing your spotting, inputting the correction from your reticle, maintaining visual contact with the target/animal all the way through bolt manipulation and target re-engagement if necessary.
    This isn’t a preference; this is best practice vs sloppy rifle shooting. Running the bolt without taking your head off the gun or losing the target from your field of view is going to result in faster and more effective follow up shots or corrections.
    You’ve got some bad habits, like most of us.
    What information are you looking for that isn’t in your scope when you pop up like a gopher? It’s a ruler 3” from your eyeball, but you don’t want that info?
    And if you’re losing the animal from field of view during recoil then your magnification is too high.
    I mostly miss the target entirely, regardless, but when I do, I like to send another one quickly with an accurate correction. ;)

  • @randyemenhiser2573
    @randyemenhiser2573 8 месяцев назад

    What the hell is command shooting?

    • @kbar193-9
      @kbar193-9 8 месяцев назад

      It's your brain telling your finger to break the shot "Now!" instead of gradually pulling the trigger until the sear releases the shot.

  • @RMM--uv7uk
    @RMM--uv7uk 8 месяцев назад +2

    Dude your missing the point. I have watched lots of your videos. I would agree your head popping is a bit extreme. The point of the follow through is so you can see your impacts. And see how the animals respond on impact

  • @84840
    @84840 8 месяцев назад

    I hate to be the safety nerd here but please use your seat belt when driving. at my age of 48 i can probably RUN ON FOOT 13 mph and i would never want to intentionally bend over and ram a tree head on while running. Would you? if you were driving would be very serious. you family counts on you and so do i so i can see another fantistic video.. keep up the good work