Is British Airways Club Europe Worth It? (A320 Business Class in 2024)
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Airline: British Airways, BA
Aircraft: Airbus A320
Aircraft registration: G-EUUT
Route: London Heathrow Airport - Rome Leonardo da Vinci-Fiumicino Airport
Flight numbers: BA554
Seat: 1F
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Chapters:
00:00:00 - Packing and heading to the airport
00:01:26 - Upgrading at an incredible price
00:03:05 - Exploring Terminal 5
00:04:28 - Book Reviews and Recommendations
00:06:07 - Food Comparison: Pret A Manger vs Galleries Lounge
00:07:24 - Departing from a Bus Gate (A10)
00:10:58 - British Airways Club Europe Impressions
00:12:21 - The Value of Upgrading to Club Europe
About British Airways (from Wikipedia):
British Airways plc (BA) is the flag carrier airline of the United Kingdom. It is headquartered in London, England, near its main hub at Heathrow Airport. The airline is the second largest UK-based carrier, based on fleet size and passengers carried, behind easyJet. In January 2011 BA merged with Iberia, creating the International Airlines Group (IAG), a holding company registered in Madrid, Spain. IAG is the world's third-largest airline group in terms of annual revenue and the second-largest in Europe. It is listed on the London Stock Exchange and in the FTSE 100 Index. British Airways is the first passenger airline to have generated more than US$1 billion on a single air route in a year (from 1 April 2017, to 31 March 2018, on the New York-JFK - London-Heathrow route).
About Airbus A320 (from Wikipedia):
The Airbus A320 family is a series of narrow-body airliners developed and produced by Airbus. The A320 was launched in March 1984, first flew on 22 February 1987, and was introduced in April 1988 by Air France. The first member of the family was followed by the longer A321 (first delivered in January 1994), the shorter A319 (April 1996), and the even shorter A318 (July 2003). Final assembly takes place in Toulouse in France; Hamburg in Germany; Tianjin in China since 2009; and Mobile, Alabama in the United States since April 2016. The twinjet has a six-abreast economy cross-section and came with either CFM56 or IAE V2500 turbofan engines, except the CFM56/PW6000 powered A318. The family pioneered the use of digital fly-by-wire and side-stick flight controls in airliners. Variants offer maximum take-off weights from 68 to 93.5 tonnes (150,000 to 206,000 lb), to cover a 5,740-6,940 kilometres; 3,570-4,320 miles (3,100-3,750 nmi) range. The 31.4 m (103 ft) long A318 typically accommodates 107 to 132 passengers. The 124-156 seat A319 is 33.8 m (111 ft) long. The A320 is 37.6 m (123 ft) long and can accommodate 150 to 186 passengers. The 44.5 m (146 ft) A321 offers 185 to 230 seats. The Airbus Corporate Jets are business jet versions.
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When we lived in London we joked that you throw a tennis ball it bounces off one prêt and lands in front of another
When I fly Club Europe, it’s usually because the ticket was bought on Amex/Barclaycard redemption. And so, for a ticket that’s literally free, what’s on offer here is pretty good. Lounge access, priority check in is particularly nice if you are flying out on weekends or evenings. On board, it’s nice to know that you can eat and drink whatever you want and not pay for it, I usually get the kosher meal because the quality of food is superior and portions bigger
I fly BA club around twice a month. Here’s a top tip at T5. Don’t go to either of the two BA lounges in the main terminal. Hop on the short transit to B gates and go to the lounge there. It’s far superior.
I love BA Club Europe - for a 2.5 hr flight the service is leaps n bounds better than what you’d ever get in the US in domestic first for a flight the same length.
I agree but the seats are sooo tight. They should increase legroom! It's hard to fit
True but that doesn’t really mean anything because American Airlines are pretty much the worst airlines in the world.
Soft product yes, hard product absoutely not!
Agreed
Surely depends on the price and I don’t see the value if you already have silver/gold.
Heathrow. Where you don’t know your gate until like 30 minutes to take off … except it’s 40 minutes away
None of the gates are more than 15 mins away from the furthest parts of T5. You’ll get your gate shown 50 mins before departure.
Most BA short haul go from the T5A gates so you’re talking utter tosh.
This was air Canada to Vancouver in like 2014. It was ridiculous. I freaking hate that shit airport.
@@marcppparis No Heathrow Terminal takes 40 mins to navigate, even at a leisurely pace. You are just exaggerating.
The Thursday Murder Club series by Richard Osman is excellent. There are four books and you will be hooked!! Steven Spielberg bought the rights in 2020 but Covid hit.
Netflix announced the cast the other day - Helen Mirren, Pierce Brosnan and Ben Kingsley, with Chris Columbus directing.
We travel business short haul using points. We currently travel with a 1 yr old, and you can fold the middle seat tray down and effectively have a free seat for the little one to lay down.
Big D, another great video. Helpful/funny, as always. Great to meet you in DC!
So great meeting you!
Congratulations! This achievement is well deserved. Watching you feels like watching a real person and friend. You are real, and relative (both of you) and you bring so much joy! Thank you for the gift you've given us with you both.
Tuna and sweetcorn and the smell of books! Love those too!
Its my town!! 9:28 Farnborough airport!
Got more excited than I should have when you did a piece outside the Plaza Premium Lounge I went into at T5 when I flew to Istanbul a month or so ago. It wasn't anything special - the lounge, that is; Istanbul was stunning.
Oh, and Bob Mortimer is a legit national treasure - not sure how his humour translates into books, but he's absolute comedy royalty here. If you want some gentle watching for a flight, see if you can download his Gone Fishing series - I don't care about catching fish, but his relationship with fellow comedian Paul Whitehouse and the stunning countryside make it an exceptional watch.
love the vlogs where we see more of the airport and the pre departure experience!
I dig your background music. It harkens back to a more civilized time in air travel, thanks!
I can already anticipate your review outcome by the way you trash the lounge. It looked fine… way better than the cattle-coral priority pass lounges.
Love the F1 content tho!
London to Rome is not 2h40 unless you’re in a DC-3. It’s less than two hours, the rest is padding by BA to ensure an on time arrival
All airlines pad it out.
12:18 what was the compensation for putting someone in a middle seat?
I would have thought they would be quite generous with the Avios - possibly an amount close to the value of the flight. They are very fair about compensation.
@andrewclark8630 yes they are, I had a recent overnight flight in their new club suites and the crew noticed me fiddling with a faulty door and recommended I make a complaint for avios. I got 10,000.
I got NOTHING because I was booked on an American Airlines ticket - crazy right?!
It has happened on maybe 4 occasions in the last 10 years. It’s when there is a mass disruption event (ATC failure last summer) meaning occupying the middle Club seat gets more passengers on.
perfect, totally worth it ❣️
You're pronouncing it wrong. Pret sounds like pray. It means ready. Basically in French Pret de Manger is ready to eat. And it's awesome. Some great health options.
Fall Guy- John Cheetham
Great video 👍👏😊
Question, does the smooth jazzy background music impact the viewers perception of the product. Calm, sophisticated? Is that a real reflection of what is on offer? The bus to the stand, the crowded lounge, the so-so difference between this and the coach product?
I have never been to Heathrow where it was not a remote stand. When we go through Gatwick it is always a terminal board.
This is my most used terminal and I fly BA business 1-3 times a month back and forward from London to Italy for my businesses.
1. Terminal 5 is nice for this 1 main reason if you’re a gold member with them. You get to use the first class check in area with your own security right into the lounge to avoid the crowd.
2. There are 3 types of lounges in terminal 5 for BA. The Concorde which I’m told is actually good. I haven’t used it yet. It’s only for 1st class long haul. The other is a slightly less crowded gold member and I think one world emerald. Then there’s the lounge you went to which is crowded as often with no seats. Not bad going solo but terrible if you have a partner or family. You will almost never get to sit together. The food and experience is pretty much the same but less crowded in the gold lounge.
3. The food is terrible. The breakfast at the lounge is the same food they give you if you have a morning flight which is stupid because I just ate the same exact stuff in the lounge. British food is already not my cup of team but what they have is not edible to me.
4. Service is not great. Rarely do they even acknowledge you as a gold or emerald member now. The only reason I keep gold is to get the front row with more leg room because I’m tall and need extra leg room. It sucks you can’t book front row unless you’re gold so you can’t even buy more leg room if you wanted.
Love Club E T3 departures. The QF & CX lounges are great!
Agreed!
A lot depends how much someone spends on a Club Europe fare. There are some good deals to be found if they book well in advance. In those cases, Club Europe is worth it. Lounge access, priority check-in, security, boarding and I've generally found BA FAs to be very friendly and more than happy to hand out [alcoholic] drinks. The other main plus is significantly more Tier Points IF someone is trying to reach BA status (Silver or Gold). The biggest disappointment is the seat - no extra leg room (except Row 1). In fact an exit row economy seat is more comfortable!
T5 PRET TIP: @Dan when you were near the Plaza Premium Lounge if you had turned around there is a secret mini Pret at T5 that never has a queue! 😮 Hope it helps! You can see it in the distance at 3:58
This is so timely, we've never flown Club Europe before this summer so we'll see! Haven't finished the video but we're just LHR - EDI. For a good book my dad has a WWII historical novel out called Heart of the Few that's part historical fiction part mystery part thriller! And you can never go wrong with a sandwich at Pret...
Hi Dan, is it possible for you to do a video on how you do your recordings for flights and just in general when travelling?
Have you tried the Pret at gate A3 in T5? It always has a shorter line.
Can you do the a380 first class British Airways review next ?! Please 🙏
Im so excited! I love all of the characters, but Joyce is my favorite! Can’t wait!
Book suggestion: CJ Sansom's Matthew Shardlake 7-book series; start with Dissolution. You won't be able to put them down. Sadly, Mr Sansom passed away 27 Apr 2024.
Love your reviews!
I don't a club europe the krakow in march there food, service, crew and the ba ground staff were amazing
You travel enough for the trilogy of the 3 Body Problem. Getting through the premise of the foundation is a bit long in the tooth but it’s a fascinating Sci Fi story.
John Grisham, Stephen King, Robin Cooke, or Michael Crighton- I love getting books to go by them.
You know there’s a smaller Pret on the north side of T5? I can’t remember the gate numbers, that’s where I always used to go
I never knew!!
I don't think any European airline has short haul business that's worth it. The seats are just economy seats. And if you have status, you get lounge access anyway.
True. There’s a flight from Africa via Madrid to London, and that has a true business class seat. I think it’s the 5pm departure in Madrid.
Tuna Sweetcorn?
I've watched so many videos of yours & assumed I subbed ,not sure why ,but it wasn't subbed !? I just subbed !! You're always super polite & nice !! Not to mention,you always do real nice reviews !! 👍👍💜🥁🐉🎤🎶✈️🇬🇧💞
Hey Dan! I am working in an ACMI company called DAT (Danish Air Transport) and we are covering some flights for BA. It would be amazing if you could fly with us someday and help us know if we are doing as goog as them or better😊
There's a second Pret next to gate A4😊
Yep. It was even in the video in the distance. Never a queue there.
Great video! 😃We've never had a bad flight experience with BA staff, they have always great for us. We always use Avios to purchase our Club Europe short haul reward flights. This Easter we flew to Rome (4 of us) for just £4, treated my Dad with the Club check-in, fast track security and his first ever lounge experience - all for £1 per person. Plus - seats at the front of the plane so you hop on and off the plane quickly. Granted, Club Europe is basically an economy seat with the middle blocked off so I wouldn't recommend paying with cash. That being said it's really unfair to compare it to a long-haul business class flight and you should really try to manage your expectations. If you're going to compare anything to Virgin Upper, then compare Singapore Airlines Business which wipes the floor with it.
The Globe Pub & Kitchen at Terminal 5 has the best salads!!! 😋
random question: have you ever recorded a cross-wind landing while you were on board?
Many times! I love it hahah
I have a thing for travel product miniatures too!! 😅😆
Michael Rutger - The Possession
He knows how to finish a chapter...
Lounge food in London (I haven’t been to Concorde) seem to provide generous amounts of food with the worst possible ingredients. It’s like they all use the same awful supplier who are adept at cost cutting and providing empty calories.
Concorde room is a different level to Galleries, which is still ok after breakfast. Think fine dining and very expensive champagne.
Bret could EASILY have 2-3 outlets in Terminal 5
Hi none stop Dan here's two authors to Read Mathew Reilly Andy mc Dermot they are a great to Read just to say I enjoyed the video.
@dan - I recommend books by Andrew Mayne - he does a good job of keeping you guessing as well as it's fun.
Grab n go sandwich in the lounge, great idea but no way money ‘grabbing’ BA would cannibalise BOB revenue
£2 for a mini shaving cream aka the same price as a normal size shaving cream when you’re not in an airport 🙈
its shocking there is no in flight screens on the a320 family at BA
The food is terrible for what you have paid. Penny pinching by the airline. BA pays around £6 to the caterers for each of those meal trays and hot plate.
Club Europe is good if the flight is after 12 noon so you can use the lounge, a 4 hour flight to say the canary Islands, has gone up from £130 ( from) to £179( from) simply not worth it...
Can't wait to fly on BA this month but won't be Club Europe it will just be Euro Traveller.
What is tuna sweetcorn ?? Corn on a tuna sandwich??
LOL! Its a mix of Tuna and Sweetcorn kernels usually bound together with mayonnaise.
Since you mentioned shaving cream in this video, you recently posted a short video when you hadn't shaved yet. I'd encourage you to give that a try... and yes, I know that's Oskar's look. But try it.
Always have a good flight with BA and Club is generally worth it. Of course VA is going to be better - Europe is a short haul frequent flight market, it’s not a luxury market and never will be. It’s cheap and cheerful.
As much as I love your content food I have to always ignore given your food preferences (not bad but I do think that it alienates a lot of the possible food options) as well as so many reviewers seemingly ignorant to this being a British airline - it will have typical British food which many don’t like but hey ho.
I’ve always found service great, food is fine (I don’t expect it to be amazing) and drinks free flowing. If you bother to build a rapport with crew it’s even better.
It always sucks when you see gate A10 on the departure board. #first-world-problems.
Why do you think that non neo planes are better with BA ?
No tables between seats, tighter seats etc!
@@NonstopDanVlogs ok didn't notice that
Very timely video, as I was just considering redeeming my points for a trip to Athens in Club Europe class. I'm quite surprised how everyone says it's worth it. If you're not fussed about lounges and have the patience to wait for the boarding of a narrowbody, there is nothing on offer here that's better than any random European budget airline. I don't think it's worth it even when it's fully paid with Avios. Converting them to Qatar Avios to fly a long haul would be much better value, as their economy class is miles better than BA's pretend business.
Recommend The Trial by Rob Rinder! (Fiction)
Comparing Virgin longhaul product to club europe. Compare with Club world then you’ll realise BA product alot better
Terminal 5 is my nightmare
Shirt answer. No.
All business and first tickets leaving UK from 1st April next year will be charged extra passenger duty fees, May change after general election who knows.
Doubt if APD will change. It's an easy revenue raiser for any government and let's face it the current and next government needs all the money it can get.
Its only rising by a couple of pounds. Just a routine increase for inflation. Not big news.
@@GreenIcing1Let's hope so.
BA Club Europe --> nice. Heathrow --> ew. Muzak --> nifty! No glasses?
Bro literally could have had full english, but oh no a prett sandwich is far superior ;)
dan with a little bit of facial hair is handsome. #DansLuvBug
11:54 Michael Jackson
I work at an airport lounge. It’s easy to knock the food and service, especially at 6am!
Seems like you weren’t going to like whatever they offered!
Omg 😱 it's Dan again 😊. I can't wait to see his facial expressions in this one. Another great vlog 👏🏾. And, I spy Oskar 🤗🤭 yay 👏🏾. #DansLuvBug
I will never fly with BA again. Had the worst experience in the world going to New York with them at New Year last year. Coupled with a really bad flight to Brussels last summer I am totally done with them. Terminal 5 despite being a nice terminal is awful. Unorganised chaos. I would rather pay thousands more than go anywhere near BA again. EasyJet are miles better than BA
Pret supports a cashless society so I avoid now. Great video as always Dan
Having to pay extra just be dropped off at the terminal is just ridiculous
You have to pay to get dropped off.
Do you like cheese with your whine?
The Answer is No.
Errrm, talk about glow up at the end of the video!
I'm going to watch a Bad Company fishing video or Nautistyles maybe and Dan will be there. Like Simon Whistler or the guy that narrates WATOP, just all over RUclips. Watch Woodart Vietnam and there's Dan with a chainsaw and a rasp carving an Airbus 300 NEO then filming a cooking video across the street 2 hours later and a fishing video the next day followed by a Business Insider video about rice production and why Vietnamese Jasmine rice is 'So Expensive' then going to the hotel to learn to fly an F-22 to be on a Grim Reapers video. Non-stop indeed. Lol. I dislike BrBritish Airways anymore. The staff is rude, the food isn't great, the planes are late usually, or canceled (without warning!) and they always act like they have no control over any of it
Always fly club with BA def worth it all the time . Staff wonderful and great food . Never fly Emirates or Middle East they are rubbish Especially Turkish
I swear to good I will never fly with ba again not even around Europe there so slow at Service it’s taken them 2 and half hours to bring any drinks and food out!
Even business class is shit come bk from America last week ! They didn’t even have air conditioning! For me one worse now days ! If I ever fly across to America or South America American Airlines for me ! There so much better ! People out if your travelling around Europe just use easy Jet ! 10 times better then BA ……
Are you gonna keep the beard? Twink era is dead?🤣
What the fuck is tuna sweet corn.
Another vlog in business class as Dan is disconnected to reality. Economy economy economy
You are becoming like Sam useless chiu
Richard, business class is the reality for A LOT of people. If you want economy reviews, watch my recent economy comparison or watch another channel.
Is BA Club Europe Worth it? Hell NO! Whoever designed the soft product really needs to find a new vocation in life. Food is always shockingly bad. However, I'll be reviewing it myself in about 8 weeks time (again). I suspect I'll produce another twenty-minute rant on RUclips about how bad it was.
I travel from Aberdeen to London Heathrow every week on British Airways. It’s the exact same plane type they use for Europe and I always go on Club Europe/Business Class. To be quite frank, the lounge at Heathrow Airport terminal five (both lounges) are very overcrowded. The selection of food is very limited and the service quality is poor. On the plane, some of the staff are just not helpful until I make a fuss about it. Honestly, Its better to fly with easyJet because at least they have a slightly better customer service.
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