JWST's Future Isn't What You Think...
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- Опубликовано: 20 май 2024
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The James Webb Space Telescope has had an amazing first year, but there are already telescopes in the works that will make JWST look like child’s play. Today we look the next generation of telescopes that will blow our minds.
(For the record, I in no way think that JWST sucks)
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 - Intro
0:54 - Yeah I Know Cam
1:23 - HWO
5:08 - JWST Strengths and Weaknesses
6:55 - New Innovations
11:03 - Sponsor - Brilliant 
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I was born just a few months, March, of 1957, before Sputnik was launched by the USSR. When I was ten years old a teacher of mine, Anne Schumacher, took our class to Huntsville, AL to the Redstone Arsenal in Huntsville, AL for a tour of the facility. When we arrived at the gate were were met by no other than Wernher von Braun. Ms. Schumacher's Dad had worked for von Braun on the V2 missile project during WWII. Her Dad was one of the rocket scientist whom were brought to the US after the war. That chance meeting had an incredible impact on my life. It led me, basically, to the Aerospace Industry from which I am now retired. I'll be 67 years old in a few weeks, and to be honest, that chance meeting will probably be the last thought I have before crossing over into eternity. To all you young folks, I'm a little jealous of what you will live to see. Make me proud!
We will!!! What a sweet comment, I appreciate that you shared this. And you still have quite a few years left to experience breakthroughs as well!
Thank you for sharing! That’s amazing. I hope you’re around to marvel at the new technologies in the pipeline.
Thank you sir, that was very inspiring!
A friend of mine coined the term "what a time to be alive!" when we were discussing such topics. And I often think about these words when I realize what incedible things I could witness during my life already, and I'm only in my mid 30ies. As a kid even flying was something rare and exotic and I would've only dreamed about getting into space myself but now there's a very good chance that'll actually be possible during my lifetime, as a tourist!
Not to talk about the satellites in space we can order food or taxis with, right to where we are...
But a great man told this better, listen to the "conversations with Joe" episode with Neill deGrasse Tyson if you haven't. It's worth your time, I promise, especially the part about times changing.
I'm 22, 45 years younger than you. I will do my best to do the generations proud but I want to mention that us younglings are unlikely to witness the same level of change in our lifetime's than you will/have see in yours. I would trade you for the opportunity to have lived through the most incredible era, the future for us younglings has been over complicated by too many variables and too many distractions.
i turn 27 years today. To see your life experience is amazing! I wonder how things will be in 40 years from now, when im 67. Its crazy to think about
LOL... Joe just casually dropping in the entire opening credits to "Small Wonder" and then just as casually going back to his story is the kind of random humor I need more of in my life.
My day is made lol
It totally killed me!!
I actually attended a recording of an episode back in the 80s with my drama class.
Man, memory flashback!!
@@ClutchMyPrimus1 It's kinda freaky that everyone from that well remembered show basically vanished from acting after it ended. The father has been on daytime soaps for decades but everyone else from the family barely ever acted again.
Yeah it was pretty funny but the ENTIRE intro was a bit much, tbh.
I found it annoying and wanted to get back to the subject of the video. It might have been a TV thing, in the US but almost no one else cares about it or even recognises it.
You know, I went decades purging memories of "Small Wonder" from my brain.
_Thanks._
yeah, what the hell was that? ^^
Why anyone would want to purge such an amazing show is beyond me.
Yeah, I watched it back then, but it's gross, now. Could you get anymore goody two-shoes for a series? It would be at home on Cozy TV.
@@glOckcOma in a country where some people purge educational books, education, books and related things, blocking that seems just a good choice amongst many possible bad ones.
"Lames Webb" was right there Joe.
Oh yes! Lmao. It sure was🤣😂
Lame Pleb was right there DrySushi
@@garrenbrooks4778 that's too far removed
dude, you subjected us to an unreasonable duration of that show's intro, and i'm finding that i lack the words to properly thank you. good show, old chap
I guess the title sequence of Small Wonder gives those who were young enough to enjoy it a pleasant rush of nostalgia, but I was 26 when that show debuted. Its opening just made me roll my eyes and change the channel. I didn't know it was memorable - to anyone.
@@racookster I was just confused about what's small and wonderful until I saw the back of the little girl and was like, Oh, so the little girl is a slave robot?
The thing I remember most about Small Wonder, is the absolute HORID dress the little girl robot wore. Even for the 80's
I had never heard of it.
That what they say every decade so maybe humans don't have any fashion sense
@@southcoastinventors6583 YOU TAKE THAT BACK!!! Florescent leggings and skinny leather ties rocked! "RELAX"
That escalation at the intro about “a different time”, I was drinking coffee and it almost went everywhere lmfao
Joe's humour is only getting better and better XD
Does it bother anyone else that we call it JWST? It takes just as many syllables to say the acronym as it does James Webb Space Telescope. Also, we call it Hubble, not EHST for Edwin Hubble Space Telescope. So, why isn't it just called Webb? The precedent is already set and it's much easier to say.
"He's not going to show the full Small Wonder intro, is he? ... nah, I'll wait a sec longer... it's not the whole.... Ok I'm watching the full intro I guess. "
Visible light allows much higher resolution images than infrared. Resolution (really angular resolution) is limited by wavelength and the light gathering surface. A 2x larger mirror diameter bumps resolution by 4x--but moving from 21,000 nm light to 700 nm boosts resolution by 30x. The two downsides to visible light telescopes are a) they can't observe galaxies in the early universe (which is JWST's primary mission) and b) they can't see through dust.
You just unlocked a core memory with that Small Wonder intro. I completely forgot that show existed.
When I was little kid I loved Small Wonder, didnt realize how much till you dropped that clip lol
I had completely forgotten about Small Wonder. I'll be there are dozens of 80's sitcoms lurking in the back of my subconscious. What a strange decade to have a childhood in.
Thanks alot. Now I have a song I haven't heard in 35 years stuck in my head. I didn't even remember I remembered that show.
Yep. REMEMBER: In order to REMEMBER Now, you have to FORGET something else.
Uh... BTW... What day is it?
My wife, who is in her mid-50s, had never even heard of that show. I hated it then, and now I wouldn't even subject an enemy to watching that drivel.
Not alot but...
A...................................lot.
@@salinagrrrl69 AN OTHER with a penchant for proper spelling and usage. Rare breed.
@@dionh70 I don't know it but I hated it here. You've had good taste for a long time.
I feel like the only way space stuff gets public support is if they say “it might find aliens”.
I just wanna see cool stuff.
Might find aliens, or might find fuel or some other natural resource.
Until you can find something you can smoke or eat on other planets no one will care.
What, aliens not cool? 😁🖖
But I'm good with anything new and exciting.
@@jochenstacker7448 I’ve accepted we will never see aliens in my lifetime. Ok cool, I still wanna see some amazing space stuff!
aliens are the cool stuff
There's also the consideration of building a large robotic telescope on the moon, or even a moon based colony to upkeep a telescope like that.
WE NEED A MOON BASE. For real. We need to hold off on the Mars boner for now until you've got a gas station (and eventually shipping yard) on the moon for further exploration
The Mars idea sounds impossible and unrealistic the more you think about it.
The Moon? Day and Night. Think about that.@@myflippinggoodness8821
I think just making space-worthy metal sheets is really simple using lunar materials, so is using mass drivers to launch lots and lots of shielding. Since lunar gravity is so low, it's good that it's such a nice industrial size that can be run much like an oil plaform. Most of the stuff we need to build a 10000-person space habitat can actually be processed and smelted on Luna, only motors, computing equipment and biology would need to be brought up from Earth.
10:06 Worth mentioning that the protests aren't all about the site being "sacred". The people i talked to were mainly concerned with the environmental damage. Apparently the telescopes are tapping into the mountain's permafrost to do cooling for the systems, and the negative effects of that. That can become a big issue when you live on an island.
How much of an issue is it actually, if at all? I know quite a few projects get major push back because people believe some pseudo science reasoning (misinformation) that it will cause damage to their land or otherwise cause economic harm when the opposite is true. Said projects are usually green energy projects and you can probably guess where the misinformation comes from (to be clear there are some projects that could actually cause damage, usually due to water usage). On a large continent with a bunch of homes tapping into the layer I doubt it would cause damage (though there is another comment thread on a different video where someone's arguing that it will, they also claimed EVs release more CO2 than coal powered steam trains so I don't much faith in their ability to reason). On a mountain with a project that presumably requires extreme cooling (I presume they'll have to cool some parts down to near 0 K) I could see the effects maybe being enough to exceed the frost layers ability to compensate.
Why does my brain immidiatly go to "Contact" when talking about telescopes, hahahaha
Should not have been drinking my soda when he said people had tails😅
This channel is so good. Joe is so Great!
I missed that! Time to re-watch!
Good Old School Joe video, straight up. Thank you sir!
I remember writing NASA at age 9 asking about some Apollo 11 videos where it seemed blurry (this is 1969, when I lived on the TV room floor for several days. Slept on a blanket. So, pretty real time question). They sent me a wonderful reply explaining how slow-scan TV works and some sweet NASA swag to boot. Extremely considerate to a little kid. Total props.
4:13 I hope you realize how many of us paused the video to verify that this was in fact an actual show.. lol (sorry, it didn't get any screen time at my house)(never heard of it, and never heard of any of the actors involved!)
I just assumed it was but I'd never heard of it before. I was born at the tail end of 89 though so I would have only seen it as a rerun. I did watch The Munsters (preferred the old B&W ones), Louis and Clark, The Hulk (don't remember what the TV show was actually called but pretty sure it was 70's or 80's), Dinosaurs (or something like that), as an adult I was introduced to the worlds greatest superhero (or something like that), and I'm sure I'm forgetting a few others.
i love the laugh smarter moniker.. this is a comedy channel first, where you might get some science on the side! keep it up joe!
I don't know whether to thank you or hate you over playing the entire Small Wonder theme song.
I’m so glad he played the whole intro. I had never heard of it. Now I’ve seen all I need to see.
I never heard of "Small Wonder" either but "Megan" was pretty good !@@normanwolfe7639
Thank you for playing the entirety of the Small Wonder intro. The nostalgia was amazing!
Love how You Tube never puts up the link you suggest at the end of your video... but love your stuff, you're amazing, Joe....
That "small wonder" clip opened up a tiny memory from my childhood I hadn't even remembered I'd forgotten. Thank you for that.
Hey thanks for the shout out! I'm a little dubious PLATO will be that useful for finding exomoons. A big limitation is that they plan to stare at each field for 2 years. It appears from Kepler data that exomoons are rare interior to ~1 AU, which makes total sense. So if you want to find moons, we need to go beyond an AU, which means staring at fields for ~5+ years. It's still possible with a 2 year baseline, but just much harder, and PLATO isn't that much more precise than Kepler. PS Terrascope interesting future possibility too for this list! PPS Keep up the great videos!
I can’t tell you how much I appreciate you leaving the WHOLE opening to Small Wonder. I still find myself singing the theme song weekly.
Thanks for keeping the whole "Small Wonder" intro in there... that was a blast from the past.
I can't wait to see a day where we have paired sattelites in multiple legrange points. Think of the virtual telescope we have on earth that imaged black holes, but many times larger. Or something like the voyager program, but with telescopes that gains more and more perspective over time.
We are a looong ways off from this, but this is the way things will need to go eventually.
Even twin scopes for 3D range. Our eyes are only 2 inches apart.
Love this channel, Joe is a great science communicator & I hope to see his channel as well as his other creative endeavors thrive for years to come.
Thanks Joe!
This was suuuuuuch a great video, Joe! Thank you!
I love that your channel is growing
Milkin' that Small Wonders Intro , to the last second , lmao
3:31 😂 holy cow I remember watching the show when it was on prime time LOL
The big question is why is the an axe in the background of the "totally not tangent" cam? @1:08
I went with my drama class to a recording of an episode of small wonder back in the 80s. It's brilliant that you've mentioned that. Lol.
Starship seems to be more of a dead fish in the water currently. New Glenn on the other hand already got contracts and successful launches.
I will be soooooo happy if Elon fails.
I'd place my bets on the company that has had over 100 successful reusable launches with useful payloads to orbit rather than one which has less than 5 suborbital ones carrying tourists . But hey that's just me
I know Elon can be a douche, but this is an astronomically stupid comparison. Glenn is lesser in capability than the falcon 9, not to mention the heavy. Starship isn't dead it's in the testing phase dude. Its just that the testing is public for all to see. Don't let your hate for Elon to cloud your judgment.
Looking forward to see them!
0:35 ah the good old days. i still have my tail :3c
Mine's in the front but has become dysfunctional with age
Have you any information about the helion fusion reactor. It sounds too good to be true. Is it?
I mean, ALL the intro of Little Wonder. In a video about finding aliens. You bring so much joy to my life, Joe. Thank you.
Wonder what would've been more astounding to someone in the 90s, the image quality of jwst, or the fact the images will be shared across the globe, to nearly ever humans pocket as quickly as they're being produced
Another Joe Scott video huray!
Thank you for usually waiting till the end of your video for sponsorships
Oh wow thank you so much for the Small Wonder bit. Love it
Great video. What's with the Axe?
"people had tails"
yup I lost my tail in '93
I think mine needs new batteries or something.
So we'll be able to look at other worlds and ask "hwo there?"
"New telescope. Who dis?"
New planet. Who dis?
😹
but should we? I think that's just as important a question as can we
@@astromeo3467 *Who's
Thanks Joe, now the Small Wonder theme song is stuck in my head…. AGAIN.
If you haven't already checked out Dr. Becky's videos, treat yourself. She's an outstanding science communicator. She is incredibly smart, but is able to explain things that the average person without a PhD can understand. Absolutely worth watching.
I've wondered of the feasibility of making a space telescope mirror in space? I.e. launched with an inflatable framework and wires that expand to the desired size and release a very thin layer of liquid mercury on the framework to make the mirror. You can even adjust the size and shape theoretically via electrical currents.
lots a great stuff again. Thanks Joe. When will we see the update to cults?
Funny you should ask...
(There's literally one coming next week)
That full Small Wonder opening credits drop was amazing and unlocked so much nostalgia for me! hahaha
A more economical upgrade path would be to place much larger mirrors in orbit, with plenty of orbital positioning rockets and fuel to steer them. I propose one for JWST and one for Hubble. The satellites could then be pointed at those precision, giant mirrors, which could in turn be pointed at the desired object. Perfect focus can be obtained through soft and hardware. The aiming capability of the Hubble auxiliary mirror might extend Hubble's life, if another gyroscope fails.
I used too love small wonder. Then you for reminding me of it again.
Excellent as always!
The main issue preventing repair or service of JWST is, as I understand it, the need to keep the telescope side cold. Approaching from the cold side would warm those components, and there may not be enough power to recool it. Or something. I suppose this could be overcome.
Thank you Joe❤🎉
You always make my evening after watching your videos
Ya know, I clicked on this video, and up popped a recruitment ad for the United States Space Force. I remember how we all laughed when the idea was floated for this new military division, but now I wonder what it’s all about. Maybe you could do a video on that topic?
I'll be reincarnating as a Space Force Marine.
Fair winds and following seas to all.
I had heard the Vera Reuben observatory might finally be the one to at least locate Planet X. I love hearing about Planet X!
Hey Joe. Love the show. Ummm...
What is the axe next to your door for?
Go back a couple videos and see the sketch where he chases himself around the house holding a... you guessed it... and there's your answer.
Great Video!!! Small Wonder really brought me back a couple of years! I just hope I'm still traveling around the sun, alive, when HWO and these other amazing telescopes in orbit and on Earth are finally operational! I truly can't believe how much technology has blown up in my 53 years around the sun! I'd love to be around another 53 trips, but the way my body is destroying itself I'll be lucky to see the ELT in operation!
Going to check out your other videos! I had no idea this channel existed until today!
Sputnik was launched on my 6th birthday, October 4th 1957. It was an exciting time for us kids and presumably for school teachers. The next school day found me writing about Sputnik in my news book. I really wish that I’d had the foresight to keep it!
Rather than hugely expensive monolith satellites that never stay on schedule, I keep hoping some space agency will figure out how to build swarms of small sparse array satellites. Sparse arrays could have apertures over 1 km wide, depending on the size of the swarm size, and would ideally be modular enough to expand them over time.
@nekomakhea9440 : well if you have $$$$$ maybe you could help!! :) sure we could do things a lot quicker, but what happens when it all fails out there, due to not enough quality checks???
@@bobm4378 Well part of the good part about a swarm is that any one can fail and the whole system is still good to go. That's the positive about going with a larger amount of smaller base parts of something than one monolithic thing that if it fails, your done.
I have a more intriguing mystery to solve...
Joe: why do you keep an axe next to the door?
Prop from 2-3 videos ago.
It would be interesting to see what a (to scale) concept image would look like of Alpha Centauri when viewed through the HWO.
Thank u for that Small Wonder thing!!! And...
Love the fairing talk!😵💫😆
Omg. Small wonder. My Monday needed that dose of nostalgia
Omg Small Wonder. I completely forgot about that show! And hopefully at least Nebula will be here. You’re one of my fav creators. Plus you’re in Texas 👊🏻👊🏻👊🏻
Also, do you think you’ll do an update on Planet X. I know the people with the telescope predicted finding it in approximately 5 years but it’s been 8 years since your last video. Have there been any advancements?
I had completely forgotten about that Small Wonder sitcom. I remember watching it as a kid, but only vaguely. I've slept since then.
Webb is the last mega money mission for NASA, with so many competitors we simply can't take those risks anymore. That's why Roman is literally half-a-hubble, but that's a whole different story.
What competition does NASA have for telescopes?
@@originalmin did you not notice many projects talked about are NOT NASA???
@@bobm4378 astronomy isn't a competition
Oh boy, I can't wait for Earth 2: Electric Boogaloo
If you are here uploading videos, I shall be here watching! All the best. Be well.
How did you react 2 days before the video was uploaded
@@simonbolhuis4441 Patreon sent me a notice.
@@simonbolhuis4441patreon supporters get early access to videos. Joe talks about it all the time
I appreciate the fact that you played the entire intro to Small Wonder.
Earth 2, such a great album, drone metal pioneer.
great vid thanks
i was getting around to watching this as i do all of Joe's videos, but seeing the third different thumbnail picture in 10 hours is kind of hilarious
What the heck was that TV-show? Intro went on forever... Now, give me ALF! 🙂
Don’t remember ‘Small Wonder’. Did that debut here, in the Orion Belt, before I moved from the Sagittarius Belt?
It feels wild that we’re already talking about JWST successors
The theme to Small Wonder was the nostalgia hit I didn’t know I needed today. 😂
How about an update on the LHC?
There'll be no such thing as a youtube, or even a Joe Scott by the time that thing is built.
Not for us oldies, anyway.
Am I the only one who misses the bongos introduction?
Joe, do you happen to know if we could use repeater satellites similar to cell towers in space?
I just wonder if we can put a repeater in orbit of every planet to aid in research beyond pluto. Also to shorten comm times.
My neighbour lost a bottle of rum. Nobody knows where it is. Until we know everything about our own planet, I don't think it is wise to spent billions on space telescopes.
Thanks!
Ohhhh man, memory unlocked with Small Wonder. I could've gone the rest of my life without remembering that it existed. Not sure how I feel about that.
I want to watch the original intro of "Three's Company" next. Ahhh memories.
"Extremely Large Telescope"
I wonder how long it took them to come up with that extremely creative name
See the video on it by Tom Scott. It's very informative.
I admire your dedication to sensible units of measurement, despite your insistence on spelling ‘metres’ incorrectly 😊
baby steps
What I find the most amazing is.. the footage of these telescopes in space. And watching rovers on Mars. Who's videotaping this?
Wow, tv theme songs used to be so long. I literally forget that I was watching a Joe Scott video before he finally came back. (No joke!)
Talk about the Vera Rubin telescope!
They keep shipping things out to L2 to for space observations. I’m interested to know how many things we could put at L2 before they start running into each other?
What we really want is a constellation of far-infrared space observatories in a wide orbit, maybe even spread out across multiple Lagrange points? That would help map out a lot of stuff.
Wow, 20 years from now! New Glenn might even have had its first flight by then! 😂
I was hoping you'd mention LCRT (Lunar Crater Radio Telescope) or the feasibility of other telescopes on the moon. In a sense it's also a big sun shield 😂
holy crap. I had not remembered small wonder for years. I watched every episode with my family. LOL