Were Leading Scientists Deists?? Hosts Unpack Caller's Claims | Jimmy Snow & Forrest Valkai
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- Опубликовано: 9 май 2024
- A Muslim man argues that leading scientists were deists and that God is necessary for any scientific theory. The hosts challenge his claims, pointing out his misrepresentation of scientists' beliefs and his use of fallacious reasoning such as the God of the gaps and Texas sharpshooter fallacies. The conversation turns heated with the caller interrupting and the hosts muting him in response. They accuse him of dishonesty and express disbelief in his belief in a "magic space guy" who cares about human behavior. Despite attempts to get the caller to define his God and provide evidence, he continues to assert that something cannot come from nothing. The hosts end the call when the caller fails to directly answer a question about the God of the gaps fallacy.
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Every time a person asks "but why is there something rather than nothing?", a mosquito gets its wings 😂
And a stoner gets the buzz.
...from the ... mosquito.
That was funnier in my head.
Why would there be nothing rather than something, is my reply.
Does that mean a mosquito loses its wings?
And the perfect answer is "Why not?"
@@landsgevaerquick, bot spam! Make those evil blood buzzards grounded!
Hahahah...good one ☝️
"I'm a very good listener!" As he refuses to listen...
As I read that, Jimmy asked if he was driving. So...
"I'm a very good driver." (Rain Man)
"I'm a very good listener!"
For an example of muslim apologists, he's an EXCELLENT listener.
@@kentonbaird1723 🤣🤣🤣🤘
How dare Jimmy keep interrupting the Callie show, that's very rude of him.
It's almost like Jimmy and Forrest don't need to be there at all. Calle (or whatever) talked so fast that I could barely tell you any particular point he thought he was making anyway.
"PROVE THAT! PROVE THAT SHIT!"
Probably my favorite Forrest quote ever lol.
Im going for Magic peado guy, oh that was jimmy but pretty good
Five stars to both hosts on controlling the religiously fueled uncontrollable apologist and another one to the most humorous show in the series.
I’m not afraid of Hell. There are probably enough scientists in Hell that by the time I get there, they’ll have the place air conditioned.
I'd sooner believe we're already in hell.
This is one of the best cheeky takes on hell that I've ever heard😂😂😂
Reminds me of the Engineer goes to hell joke.
In case you don't know it here it goes it's an oldie but a goodie.
An engineer dies and approaches the pearly gates, the angel on guard checks the list, and apologetically says sorry you didn't make It I'm going to have to send you to hell.
After a month the engineer has designed an air conditioner that sorts the heating problem
After 2 months the engineer has designed running water and electricity
After 3 months the engineer has designed cars and boats for every resident of hell.
Just before the 4th month God checks in and hell and sees that it is now virtually a 5 star holiday resort, obviously not happy with this God pulls Satan aside. God say's "the angel that was on duty when the engineer got sent to hell obviously made an administration error, he belongs in heaven.
The devil, who is eagerly waiting to see what invention the engineer comes up with next say's "No way the engineer is staying put and there is nothing you can do about it"
God says "If you don't give me the engineer back I will sue you"..
To which the devil quips "and where are you going to get a lawyer?"
So the premise for the following, is that we actually get "a reveal" at the Pearly Gates, that our virtues and sins are presented, and explained.
By God, or a certified manager.
So, the question arises: would I, having heard the reading of my virtues and sins, and more profoundly the explanations for _why_ they are just that,
virtues and sins; not be happy and content in going to Hell?
Would not God explaning things to me, be an soo all encompassing explanation, as to _why_ I was wrong in my endevours in life, that it makes me
"get it", and thus understand why I must be punished? Would I then not eagerly look forward to being punished?
So... is Hell not a happy place? Were those tortured sings God's praise for allowing them to play their part of "ThE PlaNe"?
@@denverarnold6210 seems like it with the religious idiots ruining things constantly
To all callers: Because you are not the host, you need to follow the direction of the host. That is their job, after all, to guide the progress of the interaction.
That means they get to interrupt you. One of the things about rational discussion is that false premises can lead to any conclusion. Because of this, it is worthless to continue a thought if the premises aren't true. Thus, you should be and will be interrupted in order to ensure that false premises are discarded.
If you were to come onto the show and say, "Since 2 + 2 = 5," you should not be surprised to get interrupted in order to fix the problem. If your argument is based upon the false statement that 2 + 2 = 5, why should we even continue?
So get over yourself and understand that the course of your discussion is going to go slow and have every single step scrutinized and examined for validity. No, you aren't going to get to skip to the end. You aren't going to be allowed to gloss over false premises as if they are immaterial. If they aren't important to your argument, then didn't include them.
If you don't like this, you are free to not call in. Remember: YOU CALLED THEM. You knew what you were getting into when YOU CALLED THEM. Whining about being taken seriously and having your claims being critically examined isn't the flex you think it is.
Do your homework. You should know by now that one of the first questions you are going to be asked is: How do you know that? Give that some thought *before* you call in.
Then, listen to what the host is actually saying, not what you wish they would have said.
Yep. Like appearing on Fox News, the daft bugger would have known what to expect. And yet we all keep trying, like fools....
Tbf, no one would call in to the show if they followed this completely, since no one has ever been able to logically show that God exists
well stated
This caller's "hey that's not fair" defense reminds me of a basketball player flopping to the floor and selling a foul that never happened for the benefit of the referee.
"MAGIC BABY IN JERUSALEM, THAT CAN DO FOOD MIRACLES."
xD This the greatest summary of Christianity I think I've ever heard. And then Calle had to reveal that he's a Muslim... x3
Forrest's grinning like Cheshire Cat when being called a cat with a toy, is precious
Give him 20 years.
Apologists are so desperate to cling to the views that they assumed were true from the outset. So sad.
In my first job as a technician, I worked for an engineer who I thought was very smart. He was also an observant Jew. I asked him how he could reconcile his science with his religion. His answer was that when it came to religion, he turns off his brain. He never applies his reason to his religion.
I am not able to do that and I see no reason for me to try. I am an agnostic atheist. I don't know if there is or is not a god, but, in the absense of evidence, I do not believe that there is a god. There is a possibility that a deistic, clockmaker god exists. However, I know for a fact that the god of the bible can not possibly exist.
Most people like your engineer are participating to keep their family and community happy. It's pretty lame and spineless really.
I agree with you very much. Anecdotally many of the Jews that I have met are much more cultural Jews than religious Jews. Their history as a people I personally believe makes them band together with strong cultural bonds. I know no real fundamentalist Jews as I only talk about Jews from work and my community and not the Orthodox ones. I think the more cultural Christians and Jews and Muslims are by and large great people but they give cover to the haters and fundamentalists who will destroy humanity.
It sounds pretty scary that he admits to just believing something without applying any reason or logic to it, because what if that mindset starts seeping into his job as an engineer
@@tekbarrier My next question would be whether he actually believes in Yahweh. He might just turn off his brain and go along as a non-believer for social reasons?
People having double standards, being hypocrites, is a common thing. Some have it because of love and others out of interests. Did you never measured things differently just because of having peace in mind, to live on and not having "unnecessary" conflicts? If not, you might be the most truthful person on earth.
But sure, he makes a conscious decision lcontrary to his knowledge. I do this sometimes too, not a thing. Being always truthful can cause a lot of pain in you and others and he chooses hypocrisy to avoid this. That he may cause pain to others, maybe, he blends out.
That's not an excuse! It's rather a realistic assessment of why he chooses to live a lie, that (I guess) pretty comfortably.
I want a Forrest t-shirt with various quotes. "Prove that shit!" Needs to be on there.
There was never a "time" for there to be nothing.
Literally. Time is essentially the perturbation of spacetime from objects of great mass. No space, then no time. 😂
Even better, there is no indication that "nothing" is even a possibility.
"Why is there something rather than nothing? HUH?!?" Ugh. 🙄
The only example we have of nothing is what's inside of Calle's skull.
@@xmillion1704well.. i got nothing to do all day..
Just Cuz.
Didn't Lawrence Krauss write a book that answered that question?
Why should there be nothing rather than something?
"The Singularity Guy" would be a great sitcom about a scientist going through the trials and tribulations of finding love in an era of misinformation and science denial.
The theme is that critical thinkers are considered the outcasts and should “agree with” basic ideas because they are _popular._ But the “criticals” should never stop being curious.
That is Fate Grand Order
If Calle thinks Einstein was a deist he is just wrong. Einstein expressed a belief in "Spinoza's god" - which is basically the laws of physics, not a god at all
I think Matt banned Calle from his show for being dishonest and not being able to answer the question or STFU. Should have been done here.
I was about to say the same. His points didnt hit me but eventually the voice started sounding familiar.
I'm thankful to you all for doing this show. I didn't really learn critical thinking skills, and certainly I wasn't to question authority figures. I feel pretty silly, but I'm learning. Thank you!
I'm the same, since coming across the various atheist channels I have developed some critical thinking skills that were always missing from my lexicon. But, I always fought tooth and nail against authority because I knew instinctively that I was being bullshitted. Life has been a car crash lol.
Give them hell Jimmy and Forest. Let them know what it really is.
Calle probably would’ve gotten five times as much speaking time if he didn’t try to do it over the hosts so much.
Why is it when we look at the scientific literature, we never find the "and then a miracle occurs" step?
@dhwyll This . Exactly what I thought.
There has never ever been a god "show up" then mess up the experiment or predictions.
😁🌏☮️
Jimmy and Forest, I love you guys!
These religious apologists of any stripes do not want to give up their fairy tale beliefs and stories no matter whatever evidences are pointed out to the contrary ! You guys are doing great to point out the fallacies of their nonsensical worldviews !
I suspect many historical scientists adhered to Pascal's wager to avoid persecution.
Forest’s exasperation is so entertaining lol
This guy does not sound like a Swede, and he definitely doesn't represent common Swedish views on religion. Greetings from Stockholm ;-)
Judging by his accent I'm guessing he lives in Sweden rather than 'coming' from there
@@KwekweYep, most likely.
Yeah. Immigrant likely. The name "Calle" is a funny choice though. A bit like a Chinese man calling himself John in the US as their American name. Almost Kalle, yet a bit off. Like his viewpoint.
That was my first thought too since I know that Sweden is one of the most secular countries on Earth and you don't really have all that many theists.
I’ve had several people here on YT get very angry when I mention that a lot of theist callers from Scandinavia are not native there.
It is absolutely true, and goes doubly so for Muslim ones.
I never expected to find another person with an XQC speech pattern in the wild
One of the believers "18%" from Sweden just a seller of the unknown labeling it God. Believers often sell the unknown because it offers a sense of comfort.
and he sounds like he never was a Chrisitan
As a Swede, I was stunned to hear someone from my country talk this way. I mean, you won't find someone in Sweden under the age of 70 who takes religion
seriously, let alone attends church. This is a Christian country in name only. We're all secular and free.
However, I can tell by Calle's accent that he's not a native Swede, so suddenly things start to make a bit more sense.
We have a serious immigration problem over here. And while I'm not against immigrants as such, allowing too many people to move to any country
is like inviting problems. Too many different cultures simply don't mix, and if you try to force them to assimilate, they'll only resent you.
And one way of doing that is to cling even more strongly to their own cultural ideals and values, like religion.
And I can't say I'm exactly pleased if snowflake Sweden will bow to their will by making, say, deism a part of the standard curriculum.
If that would happen, we'd have millions of Calles running around...
I’m sorry to inform you but we have a Christian young earth creationists as deputy speaker of parliament, (vice talman i riksdagen). And there are quite a few more sloshing around the Swedish parliament as well. And these are not the immigrant version, these are home grown. So while the Swedish public is mostly non religious we still have quite a few highly religious people of the Christian kind as well. The only issue is that even though people are mostly non religious a lot of Swedes still consider them self as Protestant Christian, since that is the culture that has been prevailing in Sweden since Gustaf Vasa, even though they are non practicing and that takes a lot of the focus off of the homegrown Christian nuts that we have and turns peoples focus more on the perceived threat of the strange and unknown Islamic versions, since that is a threat from outside and is fueled by xenophobia and racism.
@@PaxofPI I don't take the actual believers in Sweden seriously. I know there are Christians in the government, as well as the occasional cult like Livets Ord, but they'd need a major miracle to ever get the support they need to cause serious social damage.
As for xenophobia and racism.....that's not at all what I had in mind, although there's a direct link from those to the very real problem of allowing mass-immigration to take place. I understand the willingness to want to help others, especially those in dire need of help, but doing too much means that resources are spread thin, not to mention that most first-generation immigrants are not going to want to assimilate (especially not with our secular society) and many of them will go on to raise their kids according to their own strict beliefs, which means that you end up with vastly different groups of people who have very little in common and don't see eye to eye with each other.
That's not xenophobia or racism.
That's a real social problem that has yet to be solved.
@@SpaceCattttt well being afraid or wary of foreigners that may change or influence your society is literally what xenophobic is but that aside I only said that xenophobia and racism was putting the focus on Islamic fundamentalism within Swedish society and making us forget about homegrown weirdos letting them fly under the radar. And I for one thing we are making a grave mistake if we underestimate those forces because they are the ones using the Islamic focus to gain ground for their beliefs and I’m not keen on any fundamentalist religious dogma influencing laws, what is thought in schools etc. regardless of what religion it is but focusing on one and ignoring the others is a road to disaster in the end because even the better of two bad options is still a bad option.
Caller's accent was definitely not Swedish. Doesn't mean that he was not calling from Sweden, but indicates he was trying hard to hide his actual agenda which was Islam-based.
He's most likely a first or second generation immigrant from a Muslim country, now living in Sweden. We got many of those these days but they usually stay equally religious or become even more religious over time.
Regardless of what it's great hearing a caller from Sweden.
I see little reason for concluding he tries to "hide" it.
The screeners ask for location, so he would give that. I have no reason to doubt he lives in Sweden. It was also very clear to me that he does not have Swedish lineage.
Most peculiar was his name written with a C, imho. Might be his nickname from work or so. No malicious intent required.
We have a mass immigration of mainly Muslims to Northern Europe. Benefits of our much 'too' generous Social System.
It is important to point out as he is dragging Sweden through mud with this call. Embarrassing
@@AlvenmodFoto But that is what happened throughout Northern Europe.
They are becoming bolder as their numbers increase very quickly.
From Belgium.
Jesus christ jimmy, let Forrest speak. Almost as annoying as Calle today bro.
Well there is "The Nothing" in The Never Ending Story.. LoL 😂
The thagomizer is the awesomest story in the anatomy of dinosaurs!
I'd consider it required for any curriculum.
_"But this is math class, miste-"_
I said ANY curriculum.
@@BaronVonQuiply 🤣🤣🤣😂😂🤣
Thank you Jimmy and Forrest for doing this important work!
Jimmy and Forrest popped tf off in this one and I'm so here for it
My cats just shoved my sample of nothing under the cupboard again and I cant currently reach it - I really wanted to show it to you, Forrest!
Jimmy and Forrest together, now you know we in trouble lmao 🤣🤣
Let Forrest talk. I swear jimmy loves hearing his own voice...
10:23 ! "God knows how many years ago..." Ah HA! Forrest admitted there's a god that KNOWS something! Gotcha! 🤪 Just kidding. No kid involved. 🤣
Thanks!
For gawd sakes host, let Forrest speak. Especially when the caller is talking about science.
So scientists from way before singularities were even postulated were unhappy with the idea of singularities? Hmmmm.
Whoever wrote the title of this video forgot to check their grammar.
Edit: they edited the title and now it makes sense.
How do you know it wasn't someone else's grammar? Hmm?
Yeah had a word in there twice 😅
Hmm. Due to Arden's comment of a word being duplicated, it sounds more like a copy error or a typo than a grammatical error. Whoever wrote the OP forgot to check their definitions, one of the foundations upon which grammar is based.
@@theArdenHarthey Arden!
I also often lay awake thinking about holes...
"Just some guy!" Zaphod Beeblbrox is "Just some guy"... Zaphod was RIGHT! He's the MOST important person in the Universe... I like Trillion... hmmmm
I suppose you mean Trillian - she was not a dude.
@@feedingravens how do you know?
According to his psychiatrist, Zaphod was "just zis guy, you know?"
Spoiler: shrink was almost certainly part of the Plot.
Belief is just the state of being convinced. Theists are convinced that God exists. I’m not. Period. That’s Atheism. The hardest part of Atheism is convincing people that it isn’t anything more than that.
I am not convinced that God exists, and I am also not convinced that God does not exist, because I have not seen any convincing evidence to support either proposition. I am not willing to base my beliefs or actions on “maybe so, maybe no.” The reason I’m leaning toward Atheism rather than Theism is that, with my knowledge of Science and the Natural world, I have found that God is not necessary to explain anything. God is superfluous.
"I don't have the evidence to prove that God doesn't exist, but I so strongly suspect he doesn't that I don't want to waste my time." Isaac Asimov
This is my train of thought as well. One can’t be forced to believe in a certain god if they aren’t presented with any compelling reasons to. I have not seen any compelling evidence/arguments therefore I can’t force myself to believe in it.
It’s not specifically that don’t WANT to BELIEVE in it (although that plays a factor because I morally object to most mainstream ideas of a god), but that I CAN’T be CONVINCED of it with the faulty arguments being presented.
I would add that I positively disbelieve in many versions of a god. Including the Abrahamic ones. The ones that I am open to, are the effectively deistic ones, and they are useless to believe in. Occam's razor cuts them out of my worldview.
I need more Forrest rants!
Most callers don't get as much air time as Calle - Stockholm did, but it was a good idea only to see Jimmy lose it as often as he did.
Absolutely freaking hilarious.
Jesus Christ, brutal! Somebody call the police
Loved the Thagamizer comment at the end.
“It is impossible to discuss the theory of gravity without addressing what kind of cheese the moon consists of!”
Before the existence of causality, what happened… I am still not sure how we get before causality.
Oh but for the Gish gallop we would'a could'a should'a
I can’t speak for others obviously, but back when I called myself a deist it was pretty much to stop family from their attempts to manipulate or bully me back into the church. It feels like a lot of theists don’t care if you honestly believe, they just want you to shut up and pretend and I hate the dishonesty of that.
This is likely how it has been throughout history. The point I would make is that a lot of scientists from history lived in a time when there would have been real social problems for them if they were not part of the established church. It was this social prison that the people who went from Plymouth (UK) to the Americas on the Mayflower were trying to escape, they wanted religious freedom. Since the famous historical scientists were constrained by their society to look like they believed in their society's religion they cannot be held up as god believers as we will never really know what their true thoughts were.
@@martinconnelly1473actually you're very wrong, the puritans were not escaping persecution. They left Britain so they would be more free to persecute others!! Please don't peddle misinformation and outright lies.
@@jackwhitbread4583 I never said they were escaping persecution. The established churches in Europe, specifically the Church of England where they originated, would not let them practice Puritanism and also be an accepted part of society. They went to the Americas because they would have religious freedom to be Puritans. This is not disinformation. A social prison is the risk of being shunned by society if you do not conform.
@@martinconnelly1473Mostly agree with you. But I think the Puritans left for America largely because so many others found them obnoxious
When we discuss the concept that 'something cannot emerge from nothing,' we're essentially referring to 'nothing' as an abstract idea. However, one way to conceptualize 'nothing' is as a placeholder for the absence of existence, ( non-existence).
Current theories from general relativity indicate that the universe had a starting point (t = 0) but provide limited insight into the initial conditions. Physicists acknowledge that the laws of physics are indeterminate at t = 0. Therefore, the source of the energy required during the emergence of our universe is uncertain.
This discussion gives rise to a significant implication: if space and time had a beginning at t = 0, and energy cannot exist outside of space and time, it logically follows that energy also had a beginning.
I’m not the sharpest bulb in the deck but suspect that ur making conclusions based on the very edge of the understanding of even the brightest among us. We may have to eventually accept that we may never solve or understand certain paradoxes
@@dwightfitch3120 I employed a straightforward syllogism to link two claims made by physicists as premises, leading to a conclusion that logically follows from these premises. If you find issues with either the premises or the conclusion, you are invited to state them. Furthermore, it would be helpful if you would specify where you perceive a paradox.
wow this Calle guy is so incredibly frustrating to listen to and discern his points
I still don't understand how the something from nothingness their catch all? It just reminds me of flag earthers saying where are the stars
Somehow I knew he was an abdul.
_".. And not knowing, is half the battle!"_
- Hypothetical Religious Children's 80s Cartoon
Yep, We have them in Sweden too.
Forrest just earned a comment for specfically for shouting out the "Thagomizer". Hell yes, dino (comics?) nerds unite.
I love that was named by some guy who just needed a name for it, and was adopted by the scientific community.
@@denverarnold6210 the term originally came from a Gary Larson comic, and paleontologists picked it up!
I sure wish these clips had original air dates..
My lord Calle is dishonest and confused. Calle said "I am a good listener actually." 😆🤣
“Why is there something rather than nothing” and then jumps past the end of the Universe . . . . . . MY god.
The nothing only exists in Fantasia.
Robert G Ingersoll said that an agnostic is an atheist who wishes to stay in polite society
Don't want you to have a foreskin was freaking hilarious
Yet can't have a tattoo because the body is a temple but we have to mutilate your d*&k.
Side point, if we are in God's image why would he make us with one then chop if off?
Perfect guys 😎👍
Can someone show me where I can find how the documentary “expelled, no intelligence allowed” was edited ? I would love to show my dad
Forrest said "Spaghettification!" He's a Pastafarian!
Strangest Swedish accent ever!
I kind of feel ashamed for being a Swede after hearing this. 😅
That, was a wild ride. Jimmy's comment about his autism steamrollering people made me crack up, I'm just the same, becoming apoplectic when faced with wilful ignorance. I am also a woodworker, and not for the puns.
Haha. He’s not Swedish. I know, because I am.
He can be an immigrant, surely? I have had pizzas in Sweden from people like him.*
Did he claim he had Swedish lineage? If so, I missed that.
*: Pizza should not have loads of garlic sauce. Please get your pizzerias to improve their act, Swedes. 😉
I watch the more patient people more than the non patient people more because I want resources to help In mormon ass utah. but I also Love you Jimmy because I feel you man.
“Watching us bone” fuck I love Forrest 😂
Education was at monasteries and religious institutions for centuries. So if you wanted to be educated that's where you went.
Stuck to his script to the bitter end. Don Quixote
Despite calling allegedly from Sweden, it was clear for me from the beginning that he is a Muslim fundy...
Maybe once the “good of gaps” is raised, ask the caller to read the Wikipedia article, then call back. Next caller.
Question out there for the brains trust: are "cherry picking" and the 'Texas sharpshooter fallacy' effectively interchangeable terms? Or can you be committing one and not be committing the other?
Not a single apologist or religious philosopher has talked a god into existence.
Something implies a Somethinger
love seeing forrest, but jimmy, you control the mute button. instead of screaming, just use it.
Jimmy was brutal here and justifiably so!
Why is the audio so bad ltely
I knew I detected a Swedish accent.
i like to watch Forrest swivel away in his chair as a person talks themselves into a corner they can't get out of lol
It was just some guy! 😂
Jimmy, I fucking love you dude.
This caller might live in Sweden, but he is not Swedish....
I srsly think there should be a debate rule that if you confuse your debatee to the point that they can't respond it's on you
I love you guys... I'm an idiot that wanted to be with a Muslim girl and tumbled on a can of worms... This religion is beyond absurd and I've found the one linguistic proof that would scorch the whole thing. However, I dont think it should be used as an opening statement, but a closing argument after a calm conversation with people that are receptive and already in touch with people that Cannot grasp the distinction between real and fiction. While this sounds so simple, religion stunts curiosity. These callers have this in common every single time: they regurgitate something they've been told and repeated.. they were lied to and never were curious about alternatives because they were always vilified for their belief (understandably so) and there are tons of passages that tell them what to do with non believers etc... it's an "ant" (automatic negative thought) and acts as a trauma... they're insecure, but there's no need to tell them. I've pointed this out in the past and Forrest seems to have mastered this notion::: you have to be okay with not knowing. Truth comes from honesty and following one train of thought where ever it leads. Sadly, with limited knowledge, you end up filling the gaps (as repeated endlessly during this excerpt) with whatever preconception you had Unless you are given the right tools. Knowing logical fallacies doesn't help a theist. Knowing that they're inadequate in most of the relationship they begin without the introduction of their religion early in the stages forces them to adopt excuses like: "it was not meant to be". They need to be accepted more than any Atheist that we know. Why? They've given up on their own mind or never had access to it.
So the only way to address any of them is not to get them shook up. I know it's the point, but... my idea would be: "tell us your opinion". Then asking them if it is really their opinion or was it suggested to them when they were a kid and reinforced? This approach would send them into their memory and that's where you want them. The titles of the Live shows tend to be provocative enough, but you already know that they forget really quickly. You can reframe the conversation with the previously stated sentence and they'd bite. They want to be heard and about 3/4 of the people you call trolls Aren't. They are just Beyond confused or unable to comprehend. Give the muppets a chance for they are often and quickly secluded (as one can anticipate). They have this additional need (normal people only have 3: sleep, eat and security... if you feel attacked, you can't learn / seek within your own mind.. like I said, push them gently towards their memory and determining if what they "know" is something they came up with and why or if it isn't to, maybe, take distance from it as it may be a lie::: then reminding them that a lie is just something that is false. You may not be aware that it is a lie) that is to be accepted intuitively. Unless they affiliate their failure to be accepted with their lack of social skills (harsh to learn, but you need humility First in order to ascertain this notion). One more angry person At you in a Muslim's life means nothing [quite contrary to people that have empathy].
Once you pass the event horizon there is tons of light for you to see in a black hole from other objects that have also passed the event horizon and light from the universe behind you coming in. That is if you can survive the insane heat and radiation before even reaching the event horizon.
Since months I am responding to all new muslim comments under the old Krauss vs Hamza Tzortzis debate which is famous among many of them. These guys over there have no idea about anything.
- Why do you think Hamza's so-called argument from dependency for the existence of his supposed god is convincing?
- Krauss was rude when he said x so Hamza wins because he was well mannered and nice.
I dig that Forrest called Jimmy out on his pettiness haha
When he was fake crying? Yeah, that was frustrating.
Well the Plasma Cosmology Theory is disproving the Bing Bang Theory after the new data that came in 2018-2019...
It looks like the Universe is far older than we ever anticipated or measured. Plus it looks like it may not have had a beginning at all...
To even attempt to find a 'nothing' would be to travel to the farthest edges of the universe where not even light can reach. Even then, you'd have gravitational waves and energy. The concept of 'nothing' is so more alien than the concept of 'something' by a factor that most people can't even fathom.
Why would the default be "nothing" even?
If everything has a cause, then the actualization of nothing requires a cause too. It doesn't answer anything, even if it were a coherent concept.
When you have threats of death and torture then maybe you have to cow tow a little
Jimmy turning into Dillahunty is very fun to watch.
Matt has a better control of his voice when he gets mad. Jimmy just needs a little more practice on that part, but I´m sure he´ll get to it! :D The vibe is pretty similar, yes!