The Painful Tragedy of Scalebound

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  • Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
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    Capcom veterans Atsushi Inaba, Hideki Kamiya, and Shinji Mikami joined forces in 2007 to found PlatinumGames. The company developed an impressive stable of IP within a matter of years, operating out of Capcom’s backyard in Osaka, Japan, while producing critically acclaimed games such as Bayonetta and Vanquish for Sega. These titles and several others set a cadence for Platinum, mixing combo-based action with over-the-top visuals for incomparable interactive experiences. All the while, however, Hideki Kamiya had another idea brewing in the back of his mind, a concept that would finally give respect to the larger-than-life creatures he’d long adored.
    Scalebound was to star a young man stranded in a fantastical world whose companion, the fire-breathing dragon named Thuban, constituted the last of its kind. Instead of an antagonistic or purely functional relationship, the two unlikely allies forged a bond that united them across storytelling and gameplay mechanics. Publisher Microsoft Studios fell head over heels for Platinum’s pitch, signing a deal that would make the sprawling adventure exclusive to Xbox One.
    The public similarly grew attached to Scalebound, fawning over every screenshot and morsel of gameplay footage shown during its fleeting life cycle. But it never actually saw the light of day, not outside of well-crafted vertical slices and glowing press previews. Announced during the nadir of the Xbox One’s early days, Scalebound seemed a beacon of hope for the beleaguered console. Thus, all were surprised when Microsoft abruptly ceased development on the project, pulling the plug the year it was to hit store shelves. And the fact that Microsoft owns the intellectual property rights means the keys to Kamiya’s unique vision remain outside of PlatinumGames’ reach for an indeterminate length of time.
    This is the tragedy of Scalebound.
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Комментарии • 527

  • @Malsolo
    @Malsolo Год назад +289

    Every time I see footage from this game, my heart breaks all over agin. God I was so stoked for this game...

    • @vaguedreams
      @vaguedreams Год назад +10

      I was stoked about Platinum working exclusively for the XBox. I felt if any of the third party dev's were going to be able to make magic on the X1 it would be them. Breaks my heart as well.

    • @kevingame3198
      @kevingame3198 Год назад +3

      @@vaguedreams I get the sense that it’s not Microsoft fold it actually platinum games is doing because the team they’re working on is very inexperienced

    • @Kankayama
      @Kankayama Год назад +2

      ​@@vaguedreams same here back in those days all I had was a xbox one due to financial issues and poverty.
      I loved platinum games from the start and was expecting an interesting fun game exclusive but never got it. I still sometimes think about it and wonder. Altho I feel like it would be game around 7 out of 10, it would surely take a special place for those inteserted

    • @nickbutler9831
      @nickbutler9831 Год назад

      It was canceled for halo wars 2

    • @Demsky83
      @Demsky83 Год назад

      It wouldve inspired me to purchase an Xbox again.

  • @Indigo_Gaming
    @Indigo_Gaming Год назад +272

    I saw a lot of the obvious problems like marketing and graphic performance early on after it was revealed, but for a passion project like this to go on for so long and (seemingly) get the axe very late into development is a damn shame. Hopefully the ideas get a revival sometime in the future. Other ambitious games like Deep Down and Edge of Twilight were also cancelled/heavily downscaled around this time as well.

    • @sukamadik5983
      @sukamadik5983 Год назад +1

      I really hope the concept (if not the actual game itself) makes a comeback as well. Also it's been over 7 months since your last video and I can only rewatch your old stuff so many times. Btw just wanted to let you know that your Ruiner review was what convinced me to buy it so thanks 🙏.

    • @lopiklop
      @lopiklop Год назад +1

      @@sukamadik5983 i wouldn't be surprised if most that stuff was straight up lost or just scrapped. Waste of harddrive space.

    • @lopiklop
      @lopiklop Год назад +8

      In the 90s it would be more common it's lost. These days, most likely just deleted.

    • @theotherohlourdespadua1131
      @theotherohlourdespadua1131 Год назад +6

      I have a hunch Bayonetta 3 used some of this game's ideas in their combat system (which is more focused on Wicked Weaves)...

    • @GrippeeTV
      @GrippeeTV Год назад +1

      I knew Deep Down was too good to be true when they showed the visuals. I’m hoping that game is still in development but they scaled it back until they can reach the vision they have for it. Modern graphics aren’t too far behind what they showed for Deep Down, so hopefully the time is nigh.

  • @sukamadik5983
    @sukamadik5983 Год назад +273

    This one broke my heart when it was cancelled 😢

    • @offlinegamer6756
      @offlinegamer6756 Год назад +9

      i fell you bro , i feel you !

    • @jeyfomson6364
      @jeyfomson6364 Год назад +5

      Likewise, it was sad news.

    • @offlinegamer6756
      @offlinegamer6756 Год назад +11

      imagine it with the new hardware , both on Xbox One Series X and a modern PC , with raytracing and 4K textures , a bombastic OST , an Xbox One X Elite pro Joystick on hands , With your cool dragon pet and the Dante looking guy , man ! why Microsoft , WHY ?

    • @jeyfomson6364
      @jeyfomson6364 Год назад +6

      @@offlinegamer6756 ive been asking the same question all these years. Truly a missed opportunity.

    • @magregory1985
      @magregory1985 Год назад +4

      Agreed was hyped for this one

  • @emlyndewar
    @emlyndewar Год назад +29

    This is one I keep waiting for a "surprise" re-reveal of, huge applause with it released not long afterwards. I like to have completely unrealistic expectations… 😂

  • @GmbtEXE
    @GmbtEXE Год назад +89

    While the project died, the ideas remained and then repurposed with Astral Chain and Bayonetta 3, kinda wonder if Project G.G. will take some additional DNA from what would've been Scalebound

    • @MrGregory777
      @MrGregory777 Год назад +8

      People say that but I don't think it is true. Astral Chain and W101 have the same mechanics. Instead of different morphs you use different Legions. It doesn't look like any ideas were repurposed because if you play enough Platinum games, like I did, you notice how similar they all are. Except for the ones like Infinite Space, Sol Cresta etc. You always have a dodge, slow time mechanic, red hot kick, combos etc. What did Scalebound give to Bayonetta and Astral Chain that wasn't already in a different Platinum game? Project G.G is probably going to be another superhero sentai game like Viewtiful Joe or W101. When I first saw the name I assumed it was a new Joe game but it can't be because Capcom

    • @notimeforcreativenamesjust3034
      @notimeforcreativenamesjust3034 Год назад +2

      ​@MrGregory777 what scalebound gave Astral Chain and Bayo 3 was the idea of controlling 2 characters at the same time. And it worked. Astral chain was Platinum's best selling original IP and Bayo 3 sold really well.

    • @THUGPUTIN
      @THUGPUTIN 3 дня назад +1

      I hate to say it..hideki kamiya destroyed bayonetta series with bayonetta 3...he made it directionless and left... It's over for bayonetta 3....
      I love platinum games but their games don't bring huge money whether it's wonderful 101,vanquish, bayonetta series(bayonetta 2/3 was funded by Nintendo because no 3rd party were publishing games for wiiu) Astral chain etc...
      Babylon fall was huge flop..
      neir automata was their biggest success selling 7.5 million copies...
      Rest of them have all done 1-2 million...
      And it's not like they haven't made successfull monster hunter or street fighter... They have..
      But they always struggled with original IP...
      Here's the thing, Microsoft will never launch game like this half baked... People can blame Microsoft for Bethesda games but what we see now are ones already in development before Microsoft acquired Bethesda...
      Microsoft pushed starfield release date and sent their own team to finish game because Bethesda and Todd like always were putting unfinished game on sale..

  • @Ironclad17
    @Ironclad17 Год назад +45

    A passion project based in childhood fantasies we all had at some point. There's more then a passing similarity to the most recent MH titles and the Lost Planet series. It also reminds me of the final boss battle in Dragon Age Inquisition that also used a dragon companion fighting alongside you. Mechanically I can see it being a nightmare to control and design unique encounters for. Keeping the giant dragon and player both on camera alone would be hard. All of this is compounded by console limitations and gamepad controls. I'm sure the developers had a nagging thought in their head, "Why do we have a human player character? Let's just play as the dragon!" If the game were to release I suspect the dragon would only be available for limited, highly curated set-piece levels and most the game would be a generic third person hack n'slash with a bland MC and generic story. Maybe, maybe it could work if players could ride the dragon and that would give them significantly more control and gameplay would be a balance of encounters fighting on your own or atop the dragon. The LotR Shadows of Mordor series used mounts that way.

    • @Netelolo
      @Netelolo Год назад +7

      My man, you didn’t listen to the video.

    • @Deliveredmean42
      @Deliveredmean42 Год назад +8

      Sounds like you miss the point that the devs wanted to avoid doing such things since they wanted to try something different to not make it just another mount like other games that does it. Something I am sure was possible with the right team and time but Platinum games themselves couldn't pull it off.

    • @Netelolo
      @Netelolo Год назад +1

      @@Deliveredmean42 exactly, clearly said!

    • @R3TR0J4N
      @R3TR0J4N Год назад

      the xbox one run ran decently on KCD compare to its rival..

  • @arafatshafin2326
    @arafatshafin2326 Год назад +4

    great video but you left out a lot of information in your video like mismanaging fund that MS gave for this game, prioritise Nier: Automata over this game, and MS want this game on unreal4 which they have zero experience on that engine etc....

    • @Alexander-nr5tt
      @Alexander-nr5tt Год назад

      Nier has nothing to do with the development of this game.

  • @blackninja504
    @blackninja504 Год назад +30

    They apologize alot to MS recently and asked to do scalebound again. But would you give a team more money after they took your money and used it on other projects? While I really wanted scalebound to come out, I respect MS decision to not give more money.

    • @Zanoladab
      @Zanoladab Год назад

      That's just a rumor. The money that MS provided was just for scalebound. If they really did use it for other projects, the company would have been shutdown for fraud.

  • @chuckdontjudge
    @chuckdontjudge Год назад +17

    Scalebound was a bigger tragedy than P.T. if were being honest

  • @flyingsquid6062
    @flyingsquid6062 Год назад +20

    Still nowhere near as heartbreaking as the cancellation of Star Wars 1313

    • @EximiusDux
      @EximiusDux Год назад

      I bet 1313 is barely remembered by anybody but the most extreme star wars fans by now. That game got cancelled years ago and barely reached the eyes of the mainstream viewers or gamers.

    • @kremesauce
      @kremesauce Год назад +4

      @@EximiusDux wrong, I’m a casual Star Wars fan and it blew me away and I still lament it to this day especially with how close it was to being finished

    • @EximiusDux
      @EximiusDux Год назад

      @@kremesauce There is a big difference between you sharing an opinion, and somebody else being wrong.

    • @actualartist3082
      @actualartist3082 Год назад +2

      @@EximiusDux Correct! You we're wrong. Glad you're able to tell the difference.

    • @DaveVoyles
      @DaveVoyles Год назад +1

      Amazing that Battlefront 2 (2017) got released, and not that.

  • @g3ar75
    @g3ar75 Год назад +4

    Scalebound got cut but Redfall got the pass?

  • @stalzemsty1669
    @stalzemsty1669 Год назад +27

    I would love to see a deep dive into the Phantom Console.

  • @franciscothedisco1416
    @franciscothedisco1416 Год назад +3

    Uhhhh, so no mention that platinum games was lying to Microsoft about development, asking for more time and money for half a decade as they poured said resources from scalebound and used it to develope nier automata? A game that was a Sony timed exclusive, y'know their direct competitor?

    • @Alexander-nr5tt
      @Alexander-nr5tt Год назад

      Maybe they didn't mention it because it's a load of bs.

  • @FR4M3Sharma
    @FR4M3Sharma Год назад +9

    This really made me appreciate Platinum Games even more, I love God Hand, that's the only game I've played somewhat 50% that's made by them, I have MGRR, Bayonetta and Vanquish on my To-Do List too.
    Really these titles see the light of the day sometime in the future again.

  • @neliaironwood7573
    @neliaironwood7573 Год назад +5

    Here's obviously what went wrong with Scalebound;
    -NO plot or story explained (need I say more?)
    -Convoluted/confusing mechanics (the game expects your dragon to be stuck with you if its going to share its lifebar with you).
    -The use of stock UE4 menus
    -It felt like it was trying to mishmash several ideas into one. Granblue Fantasy Relink, throughout its troubled production and even the plot restart, at least it didn't try to reverse-engineer dumb ideas and try to make them work.
    -The E3 2016 trailer was scripted in such a way where it was 50% on-rails combat meaning you'd have to copy the exact movements to make it all work
    While Scalebound's concept can be done right, I'm quite surprised no one else has actually tried making such a game themselves, not even indies. I can tell you from what I've seen, Scalebound would require a very demanding control scheme (you'd need a way to command your animal companion/whatever, ride it, and so on). The sheer lack of plot (which I was the only one to bring this up) was a major major red flag. It's basically similar to Terraria: Otherworld where Otherworld couldn't justify its existence as with how the game was designed it didn't even know if it wanted to replace the original game or not. This cancellation isn't like with issues within the company like with Sadness, Star Wars 1313 or various other failed games.
    Microsoft might've considered handing development to someone else, but I think they might've turned that down because they didn't see any more potential it going further. Even if Platinum had taken their time, this project would've just been taking too long. And when it comes to open world DmC-style games, this was way before the likes of Genshin and Wuthering Waves. I can tell you though that Kamiya's apology about co-op _did not age well_ with Babylon's Fall, which the State of Play trailer lied that you can parry Zenon's sword and use the Gideon Coffin on his sword. Guess what? You can't do that because that scene was actually SCRIPTED, meaning they programmed this scene specifically for the trailer.

    • @Alexander-nr5tt
      @Alexander-nr5tt Год назад +1

      Scalebound did have a plot and fully fleshed out world. They also brought in a couple of western writers as well (through MS connections I think). Blame Microsoft for not showcasing any of it in the marketing.

  • @HysteryProduction
    @HysteryProduction Год назад +82

    As someone who always loved dragons/wyverns, and always being heart-broken to see them in the evil role and we often have to kill them, I was so excited to finally have the opportunity to play a game where not only they're not enemies, but allies. Allies you could fight along with, get imbued with, interact with, form bonds with. Even the customization, it was like -the- dream game for dragon lovers. It was heartbreaking to see it get shelved and eventually cancelled.

    • @ubx9563
      @ubx9563 Год назад +1

      Yeah, it was just miserable that we weren't allowed to get it.

  • @hitnfgsbluntd1194
    @hitnfgsbluntd1194 Год назад +3

    If you are going to tell the story of "Scalebound" tell it then tell it right. Platinum games use the money/resources they were supposed to use for Scalebound to finish Nier & had nothing to show for it when Xbox went to check on progress. Microsoft & Xbox took the heat for Platinum games, so Platinum could save face and keep a good reputation in the industry. The Director even came out recently (close to 4 months ago) basically stating it was their fault & would love to work on the project again but Microsoft IS gonna tell them no because of what they did.

    • @jaymacc93
      @jaymacc93 Год назад +2

      Exactly

    • @Alexander-nr5tt
      @Alexander-nr5tt Год назад +2

      You're delusional.

    • @hitnfgsbluntd1194
      @hitnfgsbluntd1194 Год назад

      @@Alexander-nr5tt Say what you want but the truth is in Black & White. Platinum screwed over Xbox and lied about the development delays. How would you feel if you paid someone to do something then they cash the check or take your money & don't do the job? That's why Platinum will never see that IP again!!!!!!

    • @hirosese
      @hirosese Год назад

      That’s not exactly what happened. Microsoft didnt want Nier to outshine their game from playstation. So they cut ties knowing they weren’t gonna finish the support

  • @RobsRemixes
    @RobsRemixes Год назад +9

    Bed time video sorted 👌🏻

  • @XGlite015
    @XGlite015 Год назад +6

    I'm glad that exclusive games from third party developers like Sunsey Overdrive and Dead Rising 3 came out. It's sad that Scalebound didn't make it.

  • @eliavita
    @eliavita Год назад +3

    Come on Phill make it happen, we want it, platinum wants it, and you need to bolster exclusives, gamepass, and to appeal more to the asian market, come oooon

  • @Spezifischable
    @Spezifischable Год назад +2

    Since Babylons Fall I’m done supporting platinum games.

  • @Aliens1337
    @Aliens1337 Год назад +11

    This might be for the best. Platinum's track record with multiplayer game is honestly terrible. Mad World, Anarchy Reigns and most recently Babylon's Fall are all mediocre to bad.

    • @MrOnepiecem7
      @MrOnepiecem7 Год назад

      Mad World is good.

    • @georgie9303
      @georgie9303 Год назад

      @@MrOnepiecem7 that’s not a multiplayer game kid

    • @MrOnepiecem7
      @MrOnepiecem7 Год назад +1

      @@georgie9303 i know.

    • @georgie9303
      @georgie9303 Год назад

      @@MrOnepiecem7 I’m sorry for calling you a kid

    • @MrOnepiecem7
      @MrOnepiecem7 Год назад

      @@georgie9303 ok lel0

  • @KouD3Graw
    @KouD3Graw Год назад +5

    what I learned from an article years ago was that Platinum developed the ENTIRE game in an engine that couldn't do what they needed the game to be able to do so the giant issue came with them having to literally develop the entire game from scratch in an entire new game engine. Microsoft would have to green light and fund an entire game to be built from scratch after spending the amount they've already spent on the first Scalebound iteration. Something like that would have ballooned the development cost when Microsoft was looking forward to a great return investment. That's a big big ouch. Hopefully they get to make Scalebound again and this time make it in the right game engine. I would love for Scalebound to be made like a smaller game to build the IP back up.

    • @mandisaw
      @mandisaw Год назад

      Surely if MS was as hands-on as they describe in the vid, there would've been some discussion around the engine-choice, right? Although I've heard that kind of problem come up various times, even with established studios & in-house engines, so maybe not 😣

    • @anushmichealbiju916
      @anushmichealbiju916 Год назад +1

      Im pretty sure that's not the case hideki kamiyo came out and apologized to ms because they used the funds for developing other games like nier

  • @Spitefulrish
    @Spitefulrish Год назад +6

    Still hurts. I want this game.

  • @gunnerroo6514
    @gunnerroo6514 Год назад +6

    I remember seeing gameplay back in the day and now I know why I never played it. Hopefully Microsoft will revive this project at a later date.

  • @B_Ahmed1234
    @B_Ahmed1234 Год назад +4

    So much time and money spent with no end product.

  • @deathdoor
    @deathdoor Год назад +3

    I'm just noticing this now, but the protagonist reminds me of Nero.

  • @anterosauditore5850
    @anterosauditore5850 Год назад +5

    Its Such a shame that almoust no one cared abouth scalebound until it was cancelled

  • @officialmarquezdellamore6888
    @officialmarquezdellamore6888 Год назад +6

    Man, this was painful. I'd still want to contribute to reviving this game. It sounds so badass.

  • @alexandrohutt8421
    @alexandrohutt8421 Год назад +1

    Almost forgot how big of an L last gen was for Xbox, and well deserved at that. They did their fans dirty

  • @igodreamer7096
    @igodreamer7096 Год назад +5

    Another sad tale of what could be and never was. Still, I wait to see more exciting and funny games from Platinum studio!

  • @jonbaxter2254
    @jonbaxter2254 Год назад +6

    Damn I remember this game looked awesome at E3! Think it was 2013? Anyway, they had a full "demo", which really made no sense as they cancelled the game soon after.

    • @Deliveredmean42
      @Deliveredmean42 Год назад

      2015 more likely, since that was the year they release the trailer.

  • @Toasterry
    @Toasterry Год назад +2

    The only Xbox game that could kill PlayStation

  • @TheIMMORTALKAHNHD
    @TheIMMORTALKAHNHD Год назад +4

    I hit like on the video but i feel like we didnt get much of what happend??? Nobody was willing to share? I heard a rumor at time they were beinf forced to create a tacked on multi-player mode that just didnt mesh with the vision platinum had.

    • @Alexander-nr5tt
      @Alexander-nr5tt Год назад

      Not true. The creative producer for the game (JP Kellams) stated that multi-player was pitched from the beginning.

    • @TheIMMORTALKAHNHD
      @TheIMMORTALKAHNHD Год назад

      @Alexander nah weve gotten too much conflicting on that to take one persons word sorry. Its he said she said at best. Plus probably forced to say that bc thats what parent company wanted. Clealry the results spoke for themselves. Platinum wasnt a multi player team. They were known for bad ass single player action titles. It makes sense multi player didnt mesh

  • @tysonlaplante3957
    @tysonlaplante3957 Год назад +26

    these were always glorified tech demos with great ideas. should have mention the cost of developement MS put out in the video.

  • @brieb402
    @brieb402 Год назад +3

    This us probably obe if the biggest misses in gaming ever. This would've been freaking *amazing* and I'm pissedit was taken from us😭

  • @darthv72
    @darthv72 Год назад +55

    Platinum brought this on themselves. they dont get to ask MS for more $$ while also taking that $$ and use it to finish OTHER projects. Ms got tired of being told excuse after excuse so they just pulled the plug. MS may eventually finish it themselves via another team but that is for them to decide. Platinum should never have taken on other projects when they had this one to work on.

    • @michaelb2westgaedu
      @michaelb2westgaedu Год назад +15

      Did I miss it altogether or did the video cover none of this???

    • @GhostNappa2k10
      @GhostNappa2k10 Год назад +30

      @@michaelb2westgaedu Yeah, you didn't miss it. I rewatxhed this to make sure, they just completely fail to talk about Platinums misappropriation of funds. Bit fucking dodgy.

    • @anterosauditore5850
      @anterosauditore5850 Год назад +26

      @@michaelb2westgaedu no, he did not talked abouth how MS supported the "game" for almoust 6 year, how MS espend almoust 50 millons in Losses etc everything was for "platinum good MS bad"
      They did not even talked abouth how big of a problem was for platinum to make the game in UE4 since they never have experience with it, how kamiya come out and say that it was their responsability too for delivery etc

    • @hpickettz34
      @hpickettz34 Год назад +9

      @michaelb2westgaedu no you didn't miss it, alot of fanboys made it up.

    • @5chneemensch138
      @5chneemensch138 Год назад +2

      Sauce.

  • @blumiu2426
    @blumiu2426 Год назад +104

    I could have sworn there was more to this story. This was pretty scant.

    • @kruum
      @kruum Год назад +51

      I was also expecting more of a story in regard to what actually went down and led to the cancellation. Or info on the state of the game, and how far along development was. This was just a retelling of some surface facts with the 3 arc being, it was in development and then it got cancelled, :(
      The first part is interesting though, the background. But this was just a meh ending.

    • @actualartist3082
      @actualartist3082 Год назад +7

      just because you want more, doesnt mean there is more. grow up.

    • @canobus1906
      @canobus1906 Год назад +1

      @@actualartist3082 There is more to the story that isn't being told. Like what the American developers said about it after the fact. Don't be a dick fanboy.

    • @kevynhansyn2902
      @kevynhansyn2902 Год назад +25

      @@kruumyeah some of their videos lately have been very short, or shorter than usual.
      I am kind of being turned away from this channel, but thanks for saving me 15 minutes.

    • @JachAnen
      @JachAnen Год назад +2

      Probably too much rumor to include

  • @Archerboy666
    @Archerboy666 4 месяца назад +1

    I literally sold my Xbox1 on ebay the month this game was cancelled. Scalebound was the entire reason i decided to switch from PlayStation to xbox and the cancellation just ruined me.

  • @nihren2406
    @nihren2406 Год назад +21

    Probably should've dug a big more into the reports. It seemed clear from the reports that it was definitely more on Platinum's end with a lot of missed deadlines. I'd really love to see Microsoft revisit Scalebound with Platinum. I imagine the Xbox One could partly have been to blame. It was a fairly ambitious title being developed on a fairly underpowered and anemic platform. A do-over would need to be exclusive to current-gen platforms and PC to give it the power budget it deserves.

    • @hypno18s
      @hypno18s Год назад +10

      Nah the xbone could have handled it after all half its ideas made it into a switch game so anything's possible.

    • @littlebigcommentaries9833
      @littlebigcommentaries9833 Год назад +2

      Bro no ones buying that shit.
      Microsoft is known for pushing out games too early.
      I never forgot about the old windows universal platform and their store. All the dead studios they caused. The franchises they killed as well.
      They made it cool to charge a fee for online play.
      Helped push MTX into mainstream. Remember when Valve wanted to release orange box with free updates anyone? Or how ODST was intended to be a free DLC release from Bungie.
      Microsoft saw all this shit and said MONEY like they're a fucking copy of Mr. Krabs.
      Halo Infinite. They even trashed their biggest IP.
      Bro platinum has delivered countless games and exclusives. No problem. And it's worth noting none of that shit released as a broken half finished mess as per modern standards.
      Suddenly this Xbox exclusive is a problem? They just didn't want to give the devs the time needed to make the rest of the game and we all know it.

    • @Deliveredmean42
      @Deliveredmean42 Год назад +6

      @@hypno18s Hey if the Switch could manage With Bayonetta 3, I am sure the xbox one could as well with some optimization.

    • @Deliveredmean42
      @Deliveredmean42 Год назад

      @@littlebigcommentaries9833 That's a funny way of saying Halo 5, but yes Infinite is also up there too.

    • @Deliveredmean42
      @Deliveredmean42 Год назад +1

      @@littlebigcommentaries9833 Altho Platinum hasn't been perfect either, since they also release duds games that you forgot they existed.

  • @rpgworldofficial4693
    @rpgworldofficial4693 Год назад +1

    I Hope FTC blocks MS! .. xbox has been buying up studios since 2018 and they still can't make first party games in 2022.

  • @LadyAsmodeus
    @LadyAsmodeus Год назад +4

    finally a video about my favourite developers :) Scalebound is a pretty sad story indeed

  • @AdamMann3D
    @AdamMann3D Год назад +2

    you may want to explain vertical slices to your audience. I even had to explain it to people within our studio.

  • @thelazyworkersandwich4169
    @thelazyworkersandwich4169 Год назад +2

    Considering how much Phil Spencer and Xbox have talked about how they want to have more Japanese games they are probably gonna revive Scalebound though it may take some time.

  • @findout1990
    @findout1990 Год назад +1

    So 16 minutes and you can’t spend a single second on what caused the development to fall apart 😮

  • @AARGamer28
    @AARGamer28 Год назад +1

    I will never support Xbox and Microsoft because of Cancellation of this game 🤣

  • @MrAliveanddying
    @MrAliveanddying 3 месяца назад +1

    Game definitely was ahead of its time. I recon microsoft felt threatened

  • @CJgamer129
    @CJgamer129 Год назад +1

    Hm, anyone get DMC vibes from Scalebound? Like Drew looks like Nero, down to the devil arm and seemed to have a personality like Dante. Would love to know if Capcom had anything to do with the cancellation.

  • @KyrosTheWolf
    @KyrosTheWolf Год назад +1

    I feel like there's alot more to this than the video entails. Very short for a GVMERS video, usually they're 30 mins to an hour. Judging by some comments and Kamiya's twitter drama that's IN THE THUMBNAIL BUT NOT MENTIONED IN THE VIDEO, I feel this video skipped out alot

  • @chaosking911
    @chaosking911 Год назад +9

    Can people start treating platinum as a sketchy, underperforming, over promising, always ready with excuses developer as it is? No, let's just fanboi circlejerk instead?

  • @johanneswetzler2861
    @johanneswetzler2861 Год назад +1

    Or how Phil Spencer destroyed Don Mattrick legacy.

  • @jayraymond3036
    @jayraymond3036 Год назад +5

    Love the content keep it up

  • @rodrigofoggiato
    @rodrigofoggiato Год назад +2

    I remember seeing the trailers at the time and thinking it didn't look that great of a game, but seeing it again now, it looked pretty awesome. Shame it didn't come out.

  • @nicholaspetrino7695
    @nicholaspetrino7695 Год назад +4

    The XBOX really NEEDED this exclusive! They have practically nothing in exclusives and are far behind Sony. Should have pushed this one through.

  • @DrazenX195
    @DrazenX195 Год назад +9

    I really wish things with this game didn't go down like they did. I was so excited for it. :(

  • @Rokujou1
    @Rokujou1 3 месяца назад +2

    Never Forget

  • @TheDeFiler316
    @TheDeFiler316 Год назад +2

    Along with True Fantasy Live Online, Scalebound really stung when canceled. There was just so much potential there.

  • @Shinzon23
    @Shinzon23 Год назад +2

    I'm still sad about this one, because I wanted to play around with my very own personalized dragon

  • @b3ans4eva
    @b3ans4eva Год назад +1

    I love voiceover guy. Please record my voicemail message.

  • @ryobibattery
    @ryobibattery Год назад +4

    Major The Last Guardian moment

  • @LazarheaD
    @LazarheaD Год назад +3

    I remember the hype about this, even I was kinda excited.

  • @OmniFluxX
    @OmniFluxX Год назад +1

    Im currently a student as a game designer, in a weird way, cancelled games like scalebound and that single player star wars game from a while ago are one of my most anticipated games for me personally, and i was devastated, I want become a lead designer/director of many games that many will adore. I personally want to create something like scalebound in the future, that is one of my personal goals; the concept was so cool! its like a westernized legend of zelda with a pet dragon! ill give Ms 10 YEARS before i start creating something like scale bound, otherwise im going to do something to scratch that itch. but really, i wish they restart the project; i doubt they will

  • @michaelb2westgaedu
    @michaelb2westgaedu Год назад +14

    This explained absolutely nothing about what went on behind the scenes. Weren't they secretly funneling MS money into other projects and MS caught on when dev milestones were missed? Didn't some mudslinging and blamethrowing take place?

    • @majorkirilenko2401
      @majorkirilenko2401 Год назад +5

      Hearsay.

    • @GhostNappa2k10
      @GhostNappa2k10 Год назад +9

      @@majorkirilenko2401 Platinum developers openly admitted this years later. Fucking hearsay, my arse.

    • @majorkirilenko2401
      @majorkirilenko2401 Год назад +4

      @@GhostNappa2k10 Literally no one ever admitted this. It was always a community-made rumor and now it suffers the Mandela effect.

  • @cybersoldierforever
    @cybersoldierforever Год назад +2

    What a shame this never saw the light of day. And it probably won't be revived for the years to come.

  • @Y4manata
    @Y4manata Год назад +9

    I hope Scalebound is a valuable experience for platinumgames. Looking forward to their next original IP Babylon's Fall!

    • @almalone3282
      @almalone3282 Год назад +8

      died in 3 months with a max player count of 300. Then again why anyone thought it was a good idea to release right next to Elden ring is beyond me

    • @mjc0961
      @mjc0961 Год назад +1

      loooooool

    • @neliaironwood7573
      @neliaironwood7573 Год назад +2

      You can tell though that Babylon's Fall has some Scalebound DNA. That being the multiplayer aspects

    • @mechanicalmonk2020
      @mechanicalmonk2020 Год назад +1

      @@almalone3282 "game was shit, quick complain it was overshadowed instead"

  • @MrAliveanddying
    @MrAliveanddying 3 месяца назад +1

    How do we save this game!???

  • @ghostfvce0
    @ghostfvce0 5 дней назад

    The day MS cancelled scalebound was the day Xbox lost any chance of keeping up with PlayStation. If you think about it, not only did they fail with the Xbox one but the series X as well. Now they’ve basically conceded to defeat.

  • @teotest3255
    @teotest3255 Год назад +3

    Your videos are always enjoyable :)

  • @BillB808
    @BillB808 Год назад +1

    What a shame....that said Astral Chain and Bayonetta 3 both lack the old platinum magic and on point action..so who knows how it would have turned out..

  • @RAIZ0R1211
    @RAIZ0R1211 Год назад +7

    Very interesting topi, i consider myself to be a pretty huge platinum fan, so when this was canned i was pretty sad
    But i do see glimpses of its design inside of bayonetta 3, the massive kaiju theming, using them as attacks etc, it doesn't quite hit the same notes, but the inspiration is there for sure

  • @RobVespa
    @RobVespa Год назад +1

    This video was entertaining, but I didn't learn anything and the video didn't answer any questions. It's still vague. What happened and what's up with the closing line that seems to point a finger at the studio lead?

  • @knockupwood
    @knockupwood Год назад +1

    luv the voice sounds JUST LIKE ME :3

  • @kirbymarchbarcena
    @kirbymarchbarcena Год назад +4

    KAMIYA: This game is my idea
    MICROSOFT: Your idea is ours

    • @RugerEnthusiast
      @RugerEnthusiast Год назад +6

      Platinum agreed to microsoft when game was pitched
      Why u acting like msft forced them to give the ip?

    • @oceanmew
      @oceanmew Год назад +5

      Uhh yeah, they likely spent literal millions of dollars funding this project. This is how publishing works.

  • @fatswordsmanslej
    @fatswordsmanslej Год назад +2

    I'm hoping they finish it eventually.

  • @LadyAsmodeus
    @LadyAsmodeus Год назад +1

    this main character absolutely looks like Nero from DMC5

  • @Adulf472
    @Adulf472 Год назад +1

    Quality content as usual - thank you! Attempt #18 How about the rise and fall of Mechwarrior series? :)

  • @ashleysurridge626
    @ashleysurridge626 Год назад +1

    I was looking forward to this for ages was gutted

  • @OgreDLink
    @OgreDLink Год назад +1

    This game getting canceled is what triggered me to be more cynical about gaming industry

  • @rikikage1689
    @rikikage1689 Год назад +2

    Microsoft didnt release a single Exclusive this year, reviving this in 2020 would have been a good shout as a launch title for the SX

  • @zipjacketgamer1097
    @zipjacketgamer1097 Год назад +2

    Oh man I forgot about this game. Are they ever going to release scalebound. It would be great if they would remaster it for like the new consoles and a PC release. If it's possible. Man I wish I could do that 🤔😁🥺🙄

    • @anterosauditore5850
      @anterosauditore5850 Год назад

      They may but it have to be with out platinum games or with many western support studios and move it to UE5

    • @OtavioFesoares
      @OtavioFesoares Год назад +1

      @@anterosauditore5850MS could have Shinji Mikami and his team finish it. Tango is a MS studio now, after all.

  • @richardmc90
    @richardmc90 Год назад +1

    I was always wondering what happened to this game. Why cancel the game it was a great concept.

  • @jessewoodyard5709
    @jessewoodyard5709 Год назад +1

    I sold my Xbox One when this game’s cancellation was announced.

  • @Pers0n97
    @Pers0n97 Год назад +1

    That video just reminded me that Fable Legend was a thing... and then wasn't a thing anymore.

  • @fantoniumnitrous
    @fantoniumnitrous 10 месяцев назад

    Why wasn't Scalebound a Wii U exclusive instead? Think about it: on the TV, you'd control Drew fighting enemies in a typical Action Role-Playing style. On the Gamepad, you'd control Thuban by using the stylus to direct where he goes and command who he attacks. You wouldn't always have had to focus on Thuban though except when if the Gamepad starts vibrating to indicate that Thuban is taking damage so you'd switch back to Drew and help him out. Given that Nintendo was also a Japanese company that had collaborations with them and given the Wii U's overall lack of third-party support, this game would have greatly benefited the console.

  • @acardenasjr1340
    @acardenasjr1340 Год назад +1

    I wonder what happens to a game if cancelled so late into its development?

  • @shayneft
    @shayneft Год назад

    The ONLY games that made me this butthurt from their cancellations have been Star Wars Battlefront 3, EA SWFB2 Support being cut short. SW 1313, and this.

  • @joefloggg3257
    @joefloggg3257 Год назад

    I probably would have bought an xbox for this...😢
    And I am Playstation Diehard

  • @gtabro1337
    @gtabro1337 Год назад +1

    Suddenly the Elden Ring Greatsword looks pretty realistic

  • @jakedill1304
    @jakedill1304 Год назад

    So he does speak English... But what would I know I am but a humble insect, not to him to the great metal mother of course.. and so is he as we all are by comparison to her magnificence.. flying dinosaurs though I don't know that's a tough sell.. not a lot of precident in mythology for that.. I mean raptors fly I suppose and they're predators so maybe like some sort of flying raptor but a lizard instead of a bird.. or like that dog from NeverEnding story, but instead of fur, maybe like a hairless cat you know.. I'm just spitballing here I'm sure they they work something out, too bad Microsoft was in there self-defeating stage.. I'm still not sure they're not in their self-defeating stage but.. man they were really in there let's come up with a good idea and then make sure it never works stage.. it's almost like there was like a little gremlin running around Microsoft just actively throwing a wrench into every single project so that it would be what initially was great.. but also wouldn't actually work in a monkey spa fashion..
    Nowadays that's usually the marketing department but back it wasn't as universal as it is now to have marketing vertically integrated into every single department as is the company corporation way of modern business practices now don't get me wrong they were still a key component and had to say on on all the things and did all the translations to the public which is why everything seems stupid when we talk out loud it still does but back in those dark ages.. usually marketing would have to come in at the last second or something.. whereas with Microsoft was doing might have been innovative in this regard having someone from the ground up to make sure that all success would fail internally.. before externally opening their mouth and making sure it would create that antagonistic relationship that seems to be so profitable in The gaming community between people that make things and the gamers who keep buying all the things and then complaining about it.

  • @Oniontrololol
    @Oniontrololol Год назад

    The frame rate looks horrible, perhaps it’s best being cancelled than being a major disappointment. I’m glad we got monster Hunter world to fill the dragon hunting void

  • @AidenAlias
    @AidenAlias Год назад +1

    I still think this game would have been cool and really was looking forward to it

  • @briant4468
    @briant4468 Год назад

    We got doom in 2016 lol you can Blame the politics we now see in games the publisher ans suits interference and lack of talent funding or both for this game not being made and its not been picked up meaning no one has bought the ip or licence this is a huge failure for platinum if it was 1999 game would have launched on time that's called modern tripe abgaming and this was just the start of the nonsense we now see all the top with new ip.

  • @realdragonrude
    @realdragonrude Год назад +2

    Personally i think their was a communication barrier and technical limitation barrier that would have made scalebound impossible on xbox one
    Better to can the game then release it with performance issues and have money be lost on both sides

    • @GhostNappa2k10
      @GhostNappa2k10 Год назад +8

      Less of a communication barrier, more of a "dev was using publisher money to fund other projects instead of the one they were paid for" kind of barrier. And this isn't hearsay, they admitted it not so long back.

    • @hypno18s
      @hypno18s Год назад +3

      @@GhostNappa2k10 Definitely likely..... after all half the ideas were used in bayo3 a freaking switch game that also ran pretty good for what its doing while Scalebound ran like a damn slideshow lmao.

    • @Alexander-nr5tt
      @Alexander-nr5tt Год назад

      @@GhostNappa2k10 Is basic fact checking too difficult for you?

    • @GhostNappa2k10
      @GhostNappa2k10 Год назад

      @@Alexander-nr5tt Platinum OPENLY ADMITTED IT. Don't come at me with that bullshit, you dunce.

  • @anterosauditore5850
    @anterosauditore5850 Год назад +1

    Lets hope that some day Xbox make scalebound again with out Platinum games

  • @ImCroozy
    @ImCroozy 6 месяцев назад

    I was SO sad when it got cancelled
    REALLY hoping it comes back somehow.

  • @PROJaiRU
    @PROJaiRU Год назад

    at 6:48.... it's obvious how microsoft and so many publishers failed to understand that people want a challenge.. elden ring is there as proof.

    • @PROJaiRU
      @PROJaiRU Год назад

      the casual player will buy your game sometimes, the hardcore will buy it ALWAYS

  • @VioletElite4
    @VioletElite4 Год назад +11

    You can tell by playing Bayonetta 3 that they really wanted Scalebound to come out just as much as us. It sucks that he kept trying to go back to his dream game after shipping other stuff like Bayonetta, Vanquish, etc. and while those games are fantastic, it sucks that he ever got to release the game that he always wanted to make.

  • @adingdingdiiing6740
    @adingdingdiiing6740 Год назад

    Nintendo would have handled this better. Obviously it wouldn't look as good, but I think I would have looked great on the Switch.

  • @sysonp5711
    @sysonp5711 Год назад

    they should have pitched it to sony. was hyped for this game and i was playstation guy. was ready to buy xbox for this game

  • @saintboot8410
    @saintboot8410 Год назад +8

    Kamiya speaking english on stage!? I hope that did not hurt him so much, having to speak to so many "insects" like that! What a nightmare for him!

    • @littlebigcommentaries9833
      @littlebigcommentaries9833 Год назад

      Bro it's fucking twitter and he was getting trolled on for the dumbest shit. All the liberal sjws in the west and such. He's from a totally different culture and obviously he doesn't get trolled in Japanese on twitter because they don't tend to do that sort of thing like we do or take it nearly to the same level.
      Him flipping out and totally disconnecting from anything outside of Japanese was the reasonable and healthy thing to do. It's online cancer and he obviously didn't want to put up with hearing criticisms about nonsense from essentially faceless people from miles away. Insects is a general insult.
      But go off take it to vaguely racist levels.