Hazbin Hotel's Perfect Antagonist | No One Understands Adam
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- Adam from Hazbin Hotel is a massive jerk and a major antagonist/villain in Vivziepop's world. A lot of people disrespect him as a character and boil him down to a bunch of nasty traits with Adam getting massively cancelled on twitter daily but I believe no one understands him... I believe Adam is one of the greatest antagonists I've seen in a very long time. A brilliant foil to charlie as well as the themes of hazbin hotel itself. Hell is forever.
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I think that this ending (plus his Sera interactions) really show a lot about Adam's character- he really has his insecurities about being in Heaven in the first place, hence why objects redemption. He sees all Sinners coming from him, and as such their actions color him and are seen as "stain of his legacy". More than that, as he knows that he is, in fact, flawed (unlike his claims), he sees his flaws in the Sinners, and through Extermination he is able to justify his place in Heaven- by erasing his own flaws from the world, he no longer needs to face how low he (and Eve) might have fallen. Really a well written villain.
That's a good one, didn't see that before.
Very true, also its also his way to spite Lucifer, the angel that robbed him of both Lilith and Eve with the apple
Ooooooo this is a good one!
THIS ^^!! Now I understand why I couldn't help but feel sorry for him when he was ranting so desperately and trying to grasp at what he believed. Its honestly tragic in a sense. He hated that all those descended from him wasted their free will and did stupid and bad things and became so horribly insecure from it. It also explains why he always wore his mask and never took it off until it was shattered. He couldn't face his own humanity to a physical level and instead hid inside the angelic mask he created when he was elevated to Angel status. I really do hope he comes back as a Sinner so he can try redemption properly.
yeah but it was not explained in the series so he must return as a demon, it would be perfect!
I liked seeing that Lute actually care for Adam (D1ckmaster), she wasn't a slave to him or forced to support him in everything he said and does, she genuinely wanted to be by his side and was hurt by his death (although I really hope Adam comes back as a sinner or something, I feel like his death was too rushed).
he probably will bc he is not angel worthy. Also I’m kinda disappointed he got his ass handled so easily being he’s the first man
And to be honest, what Adam was doing was really a bad thing? those in hell are mostly people who deserve to be there, i mean, second chances do exist, but I don't support the idea that someone who did wrong to others in life should be able to escape their punishment. Even if they regret it, that does not erase their actions.
@@kikopikac2806 to be fair to Adam, he didn't lose the fight until the literal ruler of hell and one of the most powerful archangels joined the fight.
I like Adam as an antagonist; I can believe that someone who has been living as he pleased for so long with his ego would be like that. However, the idea of another life of punishment seems too extreme for a mortal life of sin. Besides, it's not like we exactly know what sends someone to hell here. Some sinners clearly deserve redemption and a second chance at trying to change, the cases of Sir Pentius and Angel Dust are very different from someone like Valentino, for example.
Lute, the only woman that stayed faithful to Adam.
Loved that Adam smiles when he saw Lute before he dies... It like hes happy theres someone beside him before he dies... Both of his wives left him but theres someone beside him one last time.
I feel bad when luci makes fun of him. And lucifer admits he slept with lilith AND eve
@@kundianismailNah, only Lilith. He *_gave_* Eve the Apple of Knowledge, but he was provoking Adam, so he made it an innuendo to fuck with him. Lucifer still has his wedding band on, so I really doubt he'd have an affair with anyone else.
@@kundianismailI can get that but Adam doesn't really deserve any empathy. Dude was being a chode in that moment, and wasn't just doing something he was asked to do but got sick satisfaction from slaughtering sinners in hell. Lucifer taunting him about both wives leaving him is just some shit-talking after this man just tried to murder his baby girl, the most important thing to him in his life.
they share a body in hazbin lore@@CaptainCFalcon
@@garyvincent7397 and where was that stated?
Adam better return, despite being a horrible person, it hurt even more seeing Lute get really upset by his death.
Were they lovers or something, he was a fuckboy so why would she be faithful to him
I want him to come back because his death was rushed and was anticlimactic as heck
It'd be pretty cool if he came back as a sinner to parallel Sir Pentious
@@heek8964 if that did happen, I wonder how Lute would react when she sees him. Would it be like Vaggie where she couldn't go through with killing the demon? Would she try help him get back up to heaven? Cool concept.
@@MaxAdel_ kinda was but it was revenge for how he cucked ser pentious and underminjed his death.
but at the same time they are laying th breadcrumbs to a major conflict around nifty. she is the killer so heaven might want her eliminated.... and worse if it turns out she is more than she appears.
and vox wants her. he leered at her, seeing how many more souls they could steal and manipualte if they had the killer of adam under his thumb.
Frank: HeY BoSs! HoW wAs ThE KiSS?
This needs to be the top comment lmao
bro i could hear the voice in my head when you said this wtf
🎩Ya BoSs?
🥚hOw WAs It?
🎩 Ya BoSs
🥚HoW Was iT?
🎩 Ya BoSs?
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All im gonna say is, Dickmaster would be the best guy to have in a COD lobby. And thats why hes one of my favorites.
He would legit ruin a kids dreams because he can
He would look up a kids information and find out everything about them just to tell Timmy on the COD lobby that his mom is in hell because she did cocaine
@@XavierHardy-x9m
So the average COD lobby?
I think he would also like Doom and I headcanon that is the reason why he loves rock and that at least once in the extermination he was listening to the soundtrack
I think a small detail Nux has forgotten to mention is that Adam actually has reasons to hate Hell and the Sinners. Not only is Hell ran by the 2 people that (in his mind) fucked him over (Lilith and Lucifer introduced sin to humanity). But also, and I'll admit this is conjecture, him being the first soul to go to heaven, was able to see thousands of years of sin and depravity. This can cause almost anyone to grow jaded and corrupt.
So while not justified, it does make sense for Adam to not believe any sinner could be redeemed.
EDIT: So it just came to my mind that Adam does seem to, at least to a certain level, care about others. As he recognizes one of his own exorcists (Vaggie) and seems to be fairly amicable towards Lute.
Where does this man stream
That's discrimination, he hates sinners because of Lucifer and Lilith. Plus, he's not exactly a innocent angel either, killing people is a fun little hobby to him. I thought murder is a sin?
I like how Adam turned out to be very crude and evil in his own way. I find people wanted Adam to be the pinnacle of the good angel where whenever he farts a rainbow comes out, but I see this as fitting his character extremely well. Dude was created at the beginning of human existence there was no right and wrong when he was born no philosophy or gender equality he was just raw and a blank slate to do whaterver he wanted. All he had to do was be subject to whatever god and the angels told him not to do and he thrived being God's first, living the good life with a wife, then a replacement wife. When you are the child of a parent that parent is not going to hold you to the same standards as others as Adam is able to get away with whatever and remain in the sky. Adam also grew up seeing his ex-wife end up in hell and him in heaven so he was pavloved into thinking in black and white. They go there and I go here because of my actions. Adam was perfect as he was and shows the larger themes the show was trying to represent with his inclusion into heaven and also the critique of the false message created by the original story set up of black and white.
Where does he stream?
Hazbin Hotel power scaling:
Alastor < Adam < Nifty
But only due to the tactical genius of Charlotte Morningstar.
Alastor is so fucked is Charlie sends nifty out against him
@armoredman6941 not really Alastor owns Nifty
@@joshuapiplup ok but what if Charlie told nifty to break the contract?
@@armoredman6941what kind of drugs you on? Contracts can't be broken just like that unless the demon you made it with let's you go off of it. Which he would never do
@armoredman6941 I like your what if? So I'll humor it. Nifty did a rogue backstab. She wouldn't win a head-on fight with Alastor, and Nifty has the wisdom to understand this. Nifty knows, it's better to work for Alastor than against him
The fact Adam's introduction had him calling himself "dickmaster" shows that he has absolutely no regards for what others think. Nor does he care to even think back on his actions in any negative lights. Plus he looks like every collage frat guy who got in because he's a legacy.
Overall I'd say a solid 8/10 on the antagonist scale. (1 off for no redeeming qualities, and 1 off for what he did. If you know you know)
I think the opposite actually. I think he's like every 12 year old who followed Andrew Tate. An insecure loser obsessed with projecting masculinity to make up for that fact. Only in his case it's caused by getting cucked twice by Lucifer.
I’ve watched the entire series but what did he do 😭 he did a lot of things
@@marshmallowsaremyrolemodel6406 So I'm not gonna put it here for spoiler reasons, but if you lmk where I can send you a quick message or how to/if you can through here I'll give the full answer.
Adam is such a good villain. Alex Brightman did too well with this role, I think that’s that main reason I can’t hate Adam. I honestly kind of miss him already
I feel like Adam had some depth going on. Sad it wasn't explored. The way he smiled at Lute as he died makes me think that his sexism comes from his wives having betrayed him in the past. Maybe he felt insecure because no one truly loved him? That could be why he smiled when he saw Lute tear up.
Ooh that actually makes sense, especially with how Lucifer made fun of him, despite being a dick, I honestly felt sad watching him getting killed, more than Sir Pentious's anticlimactic supposed death, don't get me wrong, I like Sir Pentious, but the way they handled his death was laughable, besides, I'm proud of him being the first redeemed sinner after Charlie's influence.
@@GothremenBhason Yes. Sir Pentious' death was laughable. 0 shock factor. If you blink, you miss it. They should have added a bit of build up of him charging in in an epic/sad way. That way, when Adam kills him it's more sad. I love sir pentious but I didn't feel anything when he died.
Makes sense
@@guesswho8556 There was plenty of build up though. The scene was one where he was going to do something epic but suicidal and the quick death was to cut that down showing how outmatched he was and that even his death was a joke.
Or ya know... he's just a douche
Honestly, I always think of Adam as Heaven's version of Homelander. Both are sadistic and prideful characters who are seen and created to be flawless and praised and that their many atrocities can easily be covered up, with Homelander still being the face of Vought and Adam still up in Heaven as a commander of his own army, because despite their terrible actions, they're always going to be seen as perfect because they were made to BE perfect, which grants them to do whatever the fuck they want.
Omfg bro made the connection I was thinking about
Yeah, I feel Adam had a kind of celebrity status in heaven which probably fed into his ego. I'm sure he always a jerk before but I'm guessing it got even worse in heaven. They gave him too much power and credit for simply being born. And like you said, he seems to have some insecurities about being in heaven because he has no idea how or why he got there.
Plus, Adam's a lot more of a glass cannon with a ton horsepower. But otherwise, his durability is nowhere near as good.
That's funny you say that because I saw him more as Soldier Boy.
THANK YOU FOR SAYING THIS OUT LOUD I KNEW HIS CHARACTER TYPE REMINDED ME OF SOMETHING
What is better ? Live long enough to see you become a villain, or, through great effort, change your evil nature for good
Thank you Mario
BRO IMAGINE HIM BEING REDEAMED
The latter.
But I'm still convinced Adam didn't commit to the exterminations out of boredom, but guilt.
That if only he didn't make that one mistake, all of this could be avoided and now because of this, Hell poses a danger due to its numbers. Thus is the reason he spearheads these exterminations. But soon his own hubris continued to add to his ego until he became what he currently is at episode 1.
"I started all of this! Me! The original dick!"
Lemme tell u guys Dickmaster will come back.
Before he died he smiled, that guy, Adam smiled on his deathbed, he was not angry, not ashamed of his death, he smiled.
There will be more to his character.
Edit: I also agree with Local Enthusiats video on Adam, who would not turn out like him after thousands of years of seeing people commit untold war crimes and genocides and then see that cycle repeat endlessly in Hell.
I expect him to return as a sinner.
He smiled, because he found Lute's crying funny. Just a theory tho.
I hope so. God I love Adam. I hope he comes back as a demon and has to go through the hotel’s rehab program.
He smiled at Lute.
It is crazy that these two have so much chemistry…unironically ship them.
Maybe Adam saw something when he died. He could of saw the light
Sera is probably so opposed to Sinner's finding redemption because it opens the question of whether or not the angels in Heaven can fall to Hell for being straight up evil the way Adam is. Sinners finding redemption and going to heaven upends the status quo that she wants to maintain. The people in heaven, in her eyes, should always remain in heaven. They did good on earth and this is their reward. A paradise where you don't have to worry about anything anymore. If the possibility of falling from grace becomes public knowledge, or even just a suspicion, the anxiety that would induce on heaven's population would tear the whole place apart. Maybe they'd even revolt against the angels
Nah Adam wouldn't get kicked out since he can whatever he wants
Adam also put alastor on fraudwatch in one hit so that’s +15 based points
I don't think Adam is a misogyn as doesn't disrespect women... Exclusively.
No seriously, the only thing he respects is himself, not hierarchy, not sinners, not winners, not angels... Nothing except his holy self ! So calling him a misogyn would be like calling a serial killer a violent person. True, but quite reductive.
So he is neutral chaotic bastard?
I think that Adam in his mind had a justification thunk about it
You were created to rule an imortal kingdom with your wife and she leaves no problem to the 2nd wife you go exept your ex and her husband corrupted (from what we know it semes that only Eve ate the fruit of knowledge between good and evil) YOUR wife and because of that you lose your immortality and your kingdom you would be mad at the sinners your childern that followed the worst scum
I love how people hate Adam but love magneto. Imagine having to see the good, the bad, and the horrific sides of humanity since day one knowing earth was meant for better and it’s all his ex wife and a prick angel’s fault.
The finale was so good. A lot of lore was dropped and I'm all for it.
Adam is like that one kid that finally snapped and then neighbours say "no idea what happened to him. he was such a good kid, always saying 'good morning'.".
I find it awful that Adem is more controversial than an immortal demon pimp
The best thing I can say about Hazbin Hotel is that all of it's characters are flawed, but they address it.
Meanwhile the Avatar Live action is taking out all of the flaws that made the characters good lol.
Hopefully people start realizing that having a Misogynistic Douchebag as a villain can be a good thing.
Adam isn't good character
Please see this Nux because I need you to hear my theory!!
Spoilers
I think Adam will come back in season 2. I think that they gave us the happy ending for season 2 with Sir P, but I think season 2 will reveal that just like how Sir P died and went to heaven, Adam died and went to hell. I think he’s going to still play a pretty big part going forward. I think that she’s going to become a demon and when Lute comes back, there’s going to be a confrontation between the two of them. It’s going to make the line even more grey. I would even consider he might end up making a deal with Alastar (one of the few people he knows are strong), and that that deal will help lead to Alastar becoming a bigger threat. But that’s just a theory
I doubt anyone would even hear him out after what he did since it would be fake redemption attempts to get back to heaven if he truly gets to hell now
A HAZBIN THEORY
@@UnkownWonders Charlie would probably be the only one to hear him out, Charlie is a Firm believer in Second Chances and everything that comes with that. If anyone will hear him out it's gonna be Charlie
He nearly killed Alastor I don't think he is gonna be alive for long if he comes back as a sinner
@@theforgotten4295 Think about the leverage that Alastor would get of he makes a deal with Adam and they manage to make him and Angel again. Alastor obviously may hold a grudge, but he plays the long game. Plus, his way to getting back may be by making Adam be the reason heaven falls or something.
So glad you made an Adam video. He was instantly my favorite character since the first episode.
I really hated the Adam death, like it felt that they wanted to get rid of him but wanted the cast to stay true to their cause of redemption, so they had nifty, do it because it’s let’s them kill Adam, without dealing with the moral reasons.
Also this means that you can sneak up on powerful creatures so anyone can kill lucifer or charley with a sniper rifle.
I also don’t like that the angle weapons can kill angles, like why did they not know that, and why did they not take better care of them.
Ehh I see what you mean but let's be honest keeping him around would also run into the problem of plot retreding if he's kept around as an exterminator.
Plus we have to remember that yeah... characters can be caught off guard.
Lucifer was litterally going to take some damage if charlie didn't help him at the last minute.
Stolas was about to get shot by Striker in that one wrath ring episode.
And here Adam was severely beaten and weakened after his fight and was having a mental breakdown.
So this fact is pretty well established I think.
because they arrogantly see themselves as better than the Hell Spawn and i probably think they wanted to kill Adams im pretty sure he's gonna revive and be send to hell so they decided to make Nifty do it for comical reason
It's weird that everyone was fine slaughtering the nameless angels, but avoid killing Lute and Adam as death is too good for them or some sht.
@@shoking2677 I also did not like the nameless angle deaths as I felt they were underpowered.
But that’s because we get to see them.
The way Adam died is cringe. He wasn't even attacking at that point and a sinner straight up murders him from behind. There goes the entire point of this show down the toilet.
Given how easy so many sinners and angeks were dying during the finale? I think even humans could take them both out, especially if their armed with modern weapons and armor.
It's a big plot hole or poor writing that angels didn't know their weapons can kill them. Even Supernatural got this right.
genius literally calls "Bow-now-now-nownow, guitar solo, fuck yeah!" as "the greatest line in music history ever"
SPOILER
Something tells me he isn’t dead: between him having a HUMAN design and a HORNED mask? I think we’ll see him again in hell.
Every other dead soul is inhuman: which suggests that Adam might have still been alive and therefore we will see him again
I’ve seen some people also say he may get reincarnated on earth, I don’t don’t know how possible that one is though
I think he's going to come back
I have even thought of a way I think Adam could work being reborn in hell similar to how A Spoiler character was redeemed.
It's based on the concept that angelic weapons when they kill something separate the soul from the vessel(body) leaving it exposed.
If your vessel , soul and the environment when the separation occurs in an all match case then your soul becomes part of the environment (dissolving into the environment) as the new vessel and is unable to reform a new body because it already merged with a new vessel (forming the eyes in the environment) but if there is a mismatch between environment and vessel then your soul gets the ability to reconstruct itself in the environment matching the soul with the new vessel aligning with the soul and environment, so only when a 3 don't match up does redemption or falling become possible and because redemption was thought to be impossible there has never been a situation when a sinner has knowingly created this disconnect between environment, self and vessel and because of the trauma of the exterminations and the fear all sinners would feel even if repentant the trauma of the event would destroy their memories so even if they went to heaven they'ed arrive with amnesia and everyone would be none the wiser just assuming they died on earth and arrived I heaven maintaining the idea that redemption isn't possible through a lack of true understanding.
Adam an angel(vessel type), died In hell(environment(foreign to the vessel), but his soul was evil in contrast with his vessel(synchronising with the environment but not merging with it since his prior vessel wasn't of the same nature as the environment) , Equalling the opportunity to reconstruct a new vessel in hell becoming a sinner
Nah he is permanently dead or he is still alive he is just struggling to get up
also sir pentious, a sinner, dying and ending up in heaven.
i feel like adam showing up as a sinner is likely
I still can't believe that a angle from heaven is the main antagonist of hazbin hotel it's almost like saying the main characters of hazbin hotel are supposed to be the bad guys
You could even say it’s obtuse
I mean, angels are like pigeons, they might be cute, but sometimes they drop their stuff all over your head.
Ah yes an Angle indeed 📐
Angle 🗿
A angle ∆
Antagonist? I think you mean tragic hero. How did Adam know Angel and open a one-way portal to him? If these two were to perchance meet, would Adam call him Anthony? The immigrants of Heaven and Hell are Adam and Eve's children. His comments, while generally tasteless, give us insight into his beliefs. He seemingly has no qualms with peoples' sexual orientation despite his lieutenant's outbursts. Perhaps his personality is every bit as much of a mask as the one he's worn throughout the series. A mask to hide his torment and spur the mercy killing of Hell's denizens; letting even a single one go would be intolerable.
The little smile Adam gives Lute, didn't that pull on your heartstrings? He may not be the man he led us, and himself, to believe.
Edit: The fact he doesn't know Alastor may be a hint that Alastor isn't human, isn't entirely human or is no longer human. In the Helluva Boss EU there's an entity called the Spindle Horse that's said to not be a native of the universe. The glitch effect we see on the Spindle Horse is often seen on Alastor. Even Vaggie, whom we now know is an angel, says she doesn't know who or what Alastor is. This could be foreshadowing his nature. He held his own against Adam and truly only lost because of overconfidence. Had Alastor armed his shadow imp with angelic steel he could've killed Adam. Additionally, I still get the impression he was holding back although it was definitely from being so cocky.
Good guys can also be antagonists, tragic heroes can be antagonists. Antagonists are just opposite to the protagonist. L is an antagonist in Death Note, even though he's the good guy. Even so, I don't agree about Adam, he's a villain through and through and better for it.
I don't think most people think his smarmy comments are why he's evil, the bigger sin is wide-scale organised genocide that he decided to start and lead, you know? Throughout history, every genocide is ruled over by people who have convinced themselves that it's the right/necessary thing to do. That doesn't make them tragic heroes, even if they are fine with the gays (speaking as a gay) - you can do good things and still be a bad person. If you enjoy genocides and find them entertaining until you start losing, you're a bad person.
I think the smile he gives Lute is genuine, he appreciates that she cared about him and he probably cared about her too. But again, evil people can care about things, it doesn't make them any kind of hero. He was a bitter asshole who didn't care about anyone else, and he was a great character for it. Ursula in the original movie also cared about her eels, but that didn't make her a 'tragic hero' for trying to murder Ariel, cheat her out of her deal and already steal the souls of plenty of people.
Sidenote:
- Adam knowing Angel's name isn't much, Lute knew the name too (and immediately associated it with 'the pornstar', showing she's probably only heard of him), It's more likely that they just keep tabs on bigger figures in Hell, and Angel is a celebrity directly under Valentino. Not to mention the fact that angels go down there every year; they've probably seen a billboard or two. And he's also an inhabitant of the hotel, which Heaven would've investigated considering they knew exactly where it was in the final episode. All in all, I'd say it's more likely that the orb just has the power to show anyone named.
- "They're his children" he enjoys murdering them.
- "Mercy killings" Lmao they kill kids and have competitions for how many demons they can kill. Lute later tortures Vaggie. They sped up the extermination just because an angel died, it's clearly to stop Hell from gaining any kind of power.
- They call it an extermination. There is no care towards the demons at all, they are treated like bugs/rats.
The above is all my personal opinion, I just can't believe how many people keep justifying him lmao. Let assholes be assholes, I enjoy a good sympathetic villain but Adam is written to be THE asshole
@midnight4685 it was Adam who referred to Angel as a pornstar, I get the impression that Lute presumed things about Angel based on that. The fact that there was a deal between Adam and Lilith means there may have been more depth to Adam's actions. Before we found out about it, we would've considered these two to be mortal enemies. We'll have to wait for the reveal.
A character can be anything and also be an antagonist. My first line is meant to provoke the video author and his audience into contemplating an alternative interpretation of Adam's character. If this is the case, then show watchers can return to the first season to recontextualize Adam's statements and actions. A particular line he repeats is mocking Charlie about the circumstances of _her_ people but also acknowledging that they are *his* descendants. Adam's first appearance is as a hologram because going down there distresses him, but episode 6 shows he partakes in the exterminations. Adam is shown to be an incredibly capable fighter despite his disposition. His final words were the gravest sin, so hopefully he returns as a sinner in season 2.
If Adam's character has the motivation I think he does then he'll become a big proponent of the hotel upon finding out that Sir Pentious was redeemed.
Eh I say that he is permanently dead or he is still alive struggling to get up he would never be a sinner
@@soulsmith4787 Again: I don't think 'tragic hero' can recontextualise genocide. The guy killed thousands of his children (which you bring up as a counterpoint but I honestly think makes him more evil) and laughed about it, completely dismissing the whole idea of not doing that before even listening to it. At most, he was tricked into it by Lilith.
But even if he was tricked, he just doesn't have the heroic OR sympathetic qualities required to be a tragic hero at all.
- Finds murder fun
- Mocks demons as they die
- Happily willing to target Charlie's hotel and friends for no other reason than spite
No matter whether he was tricked, he couldn't be a tragic hero. At most, he was a useful idiot, and I could believe that if that was the reveal, I find that quite possible. That someone told him to kill Hell and he agreed and enjoyed it because he didn't understand that his actions were wrong.
His gravest sin was killing thousands of demons, not having a mental breakdown because they finally stood up for themselves. Insulting people is not as bad as organising genocide and ignoring peace efforts.
If you want to get too metaphorical, I think his mask conveyed that he was a cocky arrogant and confident guy, when in reality, his broken mask at the end revealed an insecure, hateful nobody whose only worthwhile trait was his position of being the first human. I don't think in any situation, the team could write him to be a good guy.
What we really need is a 2 hour deep dive into Sir Pentious
Adam was such a great villain, we're talking golden age Disney levels of great.
Line delivery was perfect, banger of a villain song, and anytime he was on screen he stole the show for me.
Also side note he never ran away from a fight in the finale and genuinely lead more or less from the front whereas he could have easily just sat back from a safe distance.
Accurate!!!
Funny thing, I don't even really hate Adam that much. He's kinda like the second coming of Handsome Jack from Borderlands 2!
if sir pentious dies and turned into an angel does that mean adam turned into a imp or demon or somthin?
He's probably fully dead killed by holly weapons
@daraghokane4236 sir. P died to a holy blast so who knows.
He would be a sinner demon, not a imp
@@azuresiren5846 Yeah, he was still a human
He is a former human
Adam is pretty handsome, ngl
Fr
Well, he's the first dude
Another comment, yep. So if Sir Pentious died again and was sent to Heaven and his form was changed, will Adam respawn in Hell in a new form also? Since Adam was originally human, then angelicized, how much will his form change, if at all?
I honestly thought the ending of Adam was a little rough like okay so he is he has done no wrong he's the first man right so he technically hasn't seen because he didn't eat the apple in this universe right and he only acts within human nature he may be prideful and you know lustful and you know a big gluttonous but it's like when you realize what human instinct is it's the survive to f*** and to eat that really when you think about it Adam being pissed and like kind of like being like a party animal could be a cope for him since he lost everything in life including seeing his children be the first murderer and murdered.
Plus he lost both his wives generally I think he is kinda in the right if we assume his hatred has a reason and not because of oh he's the bad guy he supposed to be. Then I legitimately love his character and his VA does a fucking great job.
He should come back unrobbed as the warrior king of Man and he settles his score with the crew and just gets a fat W ending for him.
I hope Adam comes back as a Demon. Maybe him and Lucifer will trade places where lucifer goes to heaven to be an arch angel and adam gets to rule hell and punish the sinners however he feels is appropriate
I feel the show may go the route of trying to change Adam. Since he kinda knows his actions has consequences.
He was stabbed by a blessed weapon, and they kinda said it kill you forever as far as we know
@@joemama-san2546 True, but Pent got vaporized by concentrated angel magic and appeared in Heaven. Sinners usually reconstitute themselves, I think. No one at the hotel had any reason to think Pent was going to respawn. They assumed he was just double dead forever as well.
@@PennyxXxDreadfulI sure hope so, Adam’s va would be wasted otherwise
Eh i feel like adam being a sinner doesn't fit him because he got killed by a angel weapon
Considering this would be his second death, he probably died alone the first time and is still feels bitter about it.
Theres also a theory stemming off the idea that Adam (D1ckmaster) never ate the fruit of knowledge, so not only is he the only person to not be given a moral sense of right and wrong, but that he also ONLY Exists to serve his purpose; be a father and follow holy orders, so with his own personal dislike of the sinners (the love of his life and lucifer ruining the kingdom he was set to inherit and watching all his future children and offspring sin and be corrupted) he decided to suggest and/or go along with the sinners extermination so wholeheartedly because not only did he enjoy it and not have a sense of right and wrong but also was being ordered to. combine that with thousands of years of no consequences and you get to watch an irredeemable, powerful being go on multpile genocides without anyone to stop him and infact possibly even be rewarded for his actions. he doesn`t see the carnage he creates after hes gone, he`s there to kill and get revenge and then he leaves, even if he did see it he wouldnt be capable of empathy for such "sinners"
Greetings!
Praisee algorithm gods!
Adam was right!
Adam died for our sins!
Adam ain't jesus
Most people play DOOM and see a fun video game.
Adam played DOOM and saw a career goal.
I love both Adam and Lucifer, they have the same believes yet Lucifer is a dork that let's the world roll around while on his room because he's the ultimate bad boy nobody "should" like (including his family on his POV), and Adam just goes full DOOM because he believes he is above all those siners, they deserve it and he's the ultimate good guy.
It is weird how so many hate Adam for the way he is. While his actions are not what is consider good, one cannot help but wonder to why he did this was because Lucifer and Lilith took everything from him. That is pleasure of killing sinners came from his revenge on the two people that built their kingdom from what they stole of his.
They ignore it cause Charlie best girl or something.
So because two people screwed with him he takes pleasure in screwing with others
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Anyone else see Arch say Adam and Lute were the most interesting characters in a show that sucks and has no stakes?
Yeah I can't take that statement seriously with a character like Alastor walking around.
Adam though is a goated villain.
Damn, I can't watch this yet till Nux releases the next episode
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@@UnkownWonders I've only seen the series thru Nux's commentary on his Nuxanor page. As soon as he said "spoilers" in the first minute with only one more episode left I had to dip
Adam after trying not to make sex joke for 7 seconds or he dies: ⚰️
Adam is the perfect combination of hateable and funny.
We haven't seen a "too fun to hate villain" like this since Bill Cipher
God Adam was such a joy to watch. Having such a good antagonist for the first season is so impressive! (I hope he'll come back as a demon pls Viv hrrr)
Holy fucks I just rewatched episode 6 and I noticed when Charlie and Vaggie cursed they got looks by the other angels, while in the courtroom nobody looked at Adam
He is a very well constructed thematic foil.
I'll be honest, not that I completely disagree with Nux, I don't feel like Adam was that much of antagonistic. Like I don't know, him cursing so much everytime he's on screen makes me feel like his compensating lmao.
I feel like that's the point. He was a loser in life and a winner in death. So, he latches onto that and tries to toot his own horn.
I think it'd be really interesting to have a flashback sequence/episode about how Adam became so horrible. I like the idea that he wasn't always as bad as he is now and that his time in heaven corrupted him in a way. We could see him after he first died and went to heaven and yeah he's a bit of a dick, and maybe a little misogynistic but not a total monster (Obviously I'm not saying that any degree of misogyny is ok but there's obviously a difference between being a little misogynistic and "call me dickmaster"). But then he gets to heaven and he's beloved by everyone and gets his ego fed, then once the exterminations start he gets the exorcist army and between having a bunch of badass warrior ladies under his command + being able to do whatever he wants to in heaven he starts becoming more and more like the (hilarious) piece of trash we see today.
I love Adam as a villain. He’s perfect for the show.
"angels can do no wrong"... Homie, have you not heard of lucifer?
I actually think adam is gonna get cast down from heaven at some point, and he is gonna have to redeem himself at hazbin hotel. The original chosen human gets cast down to hell, only to redeem himself and prove that the hazbin hotel actually works.
*BEST FUCKING CHARACTER IN THE SHOW, I WILL DIE BY THAT*
Holy crap Adam! I am such a big fan! Love your work!
Bro you didn't even die to lucifer. You were capped by a tiny psycho in a poodle skirt.
How did it feel getting killed by niffy dickmaster
It would be funny if Adam actually now ends up in hell the same way that Sir Pentious went to heaven after his death
I recently heard you say "I am so shadow banned on the first channel" on your other channel, and had to go digging to find you because I remembered the good ol' Nux Taku analysis vids.
You are right, I find your new channel all the time and are not as interested, but I had to go looking for this.
I concur! Adam is a total ass and I loved him and Lute. I was always laughing at his dialogue!
If sir Pentious goes to heaven after dying, do you think Adam might be reborn into hell?
2 things:
A. Isn't this misogynist version of Adam done in Lucifer? You know, the show that had such a fan base that Netflix finished what FOX didn't?
B. I view Adam as Joffrey from GOT. He is a character that you are suppose to hate (same with Val). So, that fact that everyone is hating on Adam, just shows how great Hazbin Hotel is.
While Adam was absolutely the perfect antagonist for Season 1, his final rant before his death in episode 8 really showed how deeply insecure and damaged he is. He was the first, the original husband, the original father, of all humanity. He had two wives who were literally MADE for him, who were created for the sole purpose of having his children and being loved by him, and they BOTH rejected him in the end. And who did they leave him for? The most hated being in all of creation, the embodiment of sin himself, Lucifer. They would rather be cast down to Hell then be with Adam. When you look at it from this perspective, is it any wonder why he has such a warped view of women and a DEEP hatred of Lucifer's family and domain? For as much as Charlie and Vaggie hate him, I highly doubt that there is anyone in all of creation who hates Adam as much as he hates himself deep down. It's why, even though he's an angel, he wears a mask that makes him look like a demon. Even his fake horns resemble Lilith's real ones.
One of my head canons for Season 2 is that Adam reincarnates in Hell as a sinner finally having to face consequences for his actions, and Season 2 will be partly about his redemption arc, and how tough it is for someone as angry and damaged as Adam to change his ways. I feel like Charlie would be willing to help him once she finds out that Sir Pentious made it into Heaven himself, but of course the rest of the gang isn't going to want anything to do with him, at least not at first. It also wouldn't help that Lilith is back in Charlie's life now, and Adam definitely has some shit to work out regarding what happened between him and Lilith. Furthermore, Lilith probably doesn't have much faith in Charlie's idea writ large, even if it worked for Sir Pentious, so another part of the conflict of Season 2 will be Charlie convincing her mother about redeeming sinners and ultimately forgiving her and her kingdom for abandoning Hell for 7 years.
I feel like Season 2 could end by having Lute attacking the hotel again with an even more powerful army, and this time Adam (possibly with Lilith's help) has to be the one to save the hotel and show Lute that redemption is possible and that he was wrong about everything. I also sincerely hope that Adam and Lute finally have their moment that's been hinted at by the show and shipped by the fans since the start of Season 1. Lute clearly has some level of feelings for Adam, and Adam could start to see Lute as a REAL partner, not one that was MADE to love him, but one who CHOSE to love him willingly. It would be a poetic end to his redemption arc and a way for him to finally find real happiness for the first time in his entire existence.
Buddy the creator of the show made him to be a man bad patriarchy bad thing there is no nuance or character development for him she's known for making shallow villains that don't have reasons for what they're doing
I feel like while his introduction was a little botched, as in it went a little too long with the crass jokes, the song was one of my favourite of the entire series. Also, I believe they should have started by showing Adam being a rotten apple among the heavenly people as a parallel to Charlie being the only good fruit in the tree of Hell: instead, they made a mistake in my eyes by telling us Adam was "the leader of the angel army", aka someone to the top, aka a parallel to Lucifer, and not having researched the lore from external material I had to wait till episode 6 to realize that all angels weren't like Adam.
To conclude, in my opinion this character is like most of the show (except for maybe Alastor's character): amazing potential suffocated by an extremely limited timetable and an exceptionally ambitious storyline. Still fun to watch though!
Also, little post-it: imagine how cool it would have been if the antagonistic relationship between Charlie and Lucifer had been fleshed out a little more, allowing a sort of comedy of errors where Charlie tries to go to Serra to stop Adam and Adam tries to go to Lucifer to stop his daughter. I mean, they literally alluded to Lucifer being OK with the exterminations in episode 5, and went nowhere with that revelation (and yes, in case you wondered, I am a bit salty because of how Lucifer was characterized and all the wasted conflict potential between him and his daughter).
Getting Cancelled seems to be a badge of honor now a days.
My only real problem with the show and Adam is the it's only okay because it's Christianity. If it was some other religion being portrayed negatively people would be throwing a much bigger fit. I just don't like the hypocrisy these days
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Someone must make artwork of Sir Nux Pentious!
You know what your right. Adam is literally the inverse of what the sinners in hell are experiencing. He's someone who got into heaven yet seems to have regressed into something worse than most sinners. Yet no matter what he is permitted to remain in heaven when he clearly doesn't deserve it. Yet you have sinners like Angel and Pentious who showed true growth and worthiness to ascend still remain in hell. Like what emily and charlie were saying in their duet that if you can be the worst person ever in heaven yet someone can be truly good in hell yet neither of their stations change than the system is inherently flawed.
Ok tbf just because you grew as a person doesn't necessarily mean you're a good person
You Didn't Know contrasts Hell Is Forever while Happy Day in Hell contrasts The Show Must Go On. I neither hated nor loved the Adam, but I liked what he brought to the table as an antagonist and the implications of his activities bring to heaven's side
My poor boy 😢 They made him so dirty
adam doesn't have an incentive to be good but the people at the hotel do. charlie and emily are two characters that seem to understand and good good regardless of incentive. their actions don't conflict with their roles or their beliefs unlike virtually every other character in the show. it's so interesting and i can't wait for season 2!
I actually really liked him. He was just the right level of an a-hole while also still being an okay person. I mean he has no issues saying sorry, he shows respect to the people he likes and he supports gay relationships to a point. Which is more than I can say about my local churches. They're so awful.
Think about how scuffed it is that he enjoys slaughtering his own descendants
I mean they aren't good people, I mean think about it 99% of the demons you see aren't good.
Ayo! NUX giving me some clarity! ❤
Post nux clarity
I know a lot of people are saying Adam will come back as a demon, but I'm really wondering what will hsppen if that happens...will he give Charlie's idea a shot since it's his last hope of going into heaven? Will he be too ashamed to do so? Will he join Vox and the other Vee's from hatered towards Charlie and the Hazbin hotel? If Adam does turn into a demon, maybe the extermenators will try to kill him as they are based off of him and are tought to be prideful and unsympathetic, yust like Adam. If that happens, maybe Adam will finally learn the errors of his ways and redem back into heaven. Either way I really want more of him :) I think he was written to be an asshole, but a loveable character because he was intended to come back.
Spoilers so don't read if you haven't watched the ending :p
The obvious theme is obvious. The problem that most people have is just that Adam was too on the nose. I think Adam swearing should have been saved for whenever he sings or is talking about sinners. Also the 'first dick' bit should have been saved for the end. What Adam says before being slain in his 'mask off' scene doesn't matter since he's been mask off the entire show, him going off about being the first dick or whatever doesn't matter as he's already said all of it before. I think hell is forever should have been fine without the swears besides 'cunts' at the end to show his hatred for sinners.
In heaven's court at least have him reveal everything once Charlie brings it up first, make it that he nonshalantly doesn't deny that he's gonna murder all sinners before he relizes he said it in front of court, showing he's so casual about the exterminations it didn't even cross him mind angels would find it immoral not to murder them.
Just because the themes of a show are good doesn't mean it couldn't have been done better imo :p
I think the one thing you neglected is how necessary it is to Adam for hell to be forever. It stands to reason that if sinners can find redemption, that it's also possible for those in heaven to fall. And if anyone in heaven (that we've seen so far) deserves to be sent to hell, it's Adam.
hopefully Adam gets redemption
calling it now, we will see dickmaster in season 2
I will always relate to Adam in every aspect of his character
Whaaa? Twitter doesn't like it? That means it's probably awesome and deserving of my attention!
The idea of sinners able to be redeemed is probally already foreshadowed by how angels already can indeed fall
I really don’t know what Lute saw in him.
"Everyone's afraid to talk about Adam"
Don't care, still my favorite character.
I don’t think he gets an insane amount of hate. I think he gets the perfectly rational amount of hate.
No joke….this is so cool!!! I’m still debating on whether or not I’m gonna watch Hazbin or Helluva Boss, but even I agree that taking the concept of Adam from Adam and Eve and twisting it into the perfect embodiment of an annoying “good guy” that angers the characters (and people irl), and is the perfect antithesis to the concept of rehabilitating sinners, is perhaps the biggest multiverse-brain move EVER CONCEIVED!!!
I of course prefer depictions of Adam as an imperfect but humble father figure, but I’d be sinning if I said I didn’t appreciate, heck, straight up LOVE this alternate take on the Son Of Man himself! (And in case anyone’s wondering, I’m treating Hazbin the same as Beetlejuice: original alternate universe takes on death, heaven, heck, certain religions, etc.)
It would be hilarious if Adam got the reverse treatment to Sir Pentious and actually enjoys himself in hell
The take away from the end gives us one big realization
spoiler below:
the hotel works, as proven by SirP-Nux
People find Adam abrasive, annoying or heretical? Good!! He's a villain XD
I like Adam's powers are him seeing himself as a rockstar.
Hey Boss
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@@DND20 נכון הייתה בשוק כשה נאקס אמר עין תחת עין
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11:55 this message is poorly delivered in the series and it’s not the fault of the animation team. It’s because they had 8 episodes and had to rush all of the content. If they were cleared for, let’s say, 12 episodes, then they would have been able to build upon this more.
However a lot of people are missing the mark because the character development for these characters happened through ONE episode.
HARD DISAGREE. You can have unredeemed characters who are going to be antagonists until the day they die. Dormamu. Darkseid. Fredy Kreuger. Most pixar villains. Irredeemable with no positive qualities. Plenty of them very cancellable on twitter. But they're not SIMPLE. And Adam is a bad character because he's part of a badly written overarching plot and lore.
Adam is like this for one simple reason. It's not to build fear, because he's shown being a slob and incompetent and unintimidating, misusing divine advantage while Lute is nearby and far more single minded and driven. It's also very clear he's NOT the one who gets to choose if people get redeemed. He is A TOOL. And if he were just a gleeful mercenary of an uncaring heaven, that'd be fine. But he's painted as a threat because he holds the reins of an army. But in the same episode we're shown him, we're also shown his army can be killed and he cna be defied.
When you have a heavyhanded political message, you can't paint the bad guys as justifiable. It's the same reason we're never told why any of the sinners got sent to hell, except for Alastor in a podcast. Because in the McCarthy-esque main story, the protagonists can't be bad, and the antagonists can't be good. We can be TOLD they're bad, we can be shown they're mischevious, but we'll never see pre-hell Anthony slinging dope to high school kids, or human Sir Pentius ordering mustard gas used on enemy troops, or mob boss Husker executing someone who tried to flee on his loan. Because we need the protagonists to be victims fighting back, undeserving of the suffering they're going through.
3:10. Great example of a series not being able to justify the main conflict. We have no idea why the extermination happens. The pilot says overpopulation. The intro animation says it's punishment for Lilith and Lucifer's betrayal. Sera says it's to control a rebellion. Adam says it's entertainment. Because we can't have a justified reason why the moral majority punishes the underdogs.
And if ADAM doesn't care why people go to hell, GREAT. Let him be dickmaster who's happily ignorant of his victims. But the fact that NOBODY in heaven knows about condemnation or exorcism? Suddenly he's just a dog nobody's bothered leashing, rather than a sociopathic fuckhole.
Adam did nothing wrong, all hail our ancestor - the Dickmeister.
Lucifer and Lilith
>They both fucked off from Eden, and screw Adam over - he does not seek revenge on his ex wife and moves on
>Ruined perfect creation for humanity, by tempting Eve and Adam (which in lore didn't eat the apple i know stupid) - and he still does not seek revenge on them despite Lilith being in heaven (lol)
>Forced Adam to watch as his children kill themselves for ages
>Create pathological hell system that rewards egoism (Liltih)
>Possibly crate hell armies
>Heaven decides to give probably mentally broken Adam a task of extermination of his own children, becouse muh dreamer power couple can't govern for shit
>Their daughter creates organisation that does not teach even repentance but makes hotel denizens civilised, by just giving them place to sleep and something to eat, without really changing, which naturaly creates positive bonds, but does not make them pay for their mistakes by actively using their skills to changing hell for better
>Said daughter comes to Adam and Sera, and claims that now, because they smile and are nice to each other, it's their fault that they are not in heaven.
>She does not even attempt to understand you, just is egotisticly asking to stop exterminating cannibals, rapists, serial killers, while also sheltering one of the biggest singers in hell history, who does not even attempt to change, yes Alostor.
>Adam and Sera are antagonists.
Honestly the season should end the same way, with one but difference.
When Lucifer breaks Adam mask, he goes on full rant against humanity and their sin, while absolutely destroying Lucifer and pointing all the shitty thing he did, while mocking him by saying something alongside lines "hell is paved with good intentions", but before the final blow is struck, Archangel Gabriel appears and stops everyone from fighting, even resurrecting dead demons and angels.
There are new orders from Big G - God values free will, but that goes to far, and constant warfare between hell and heaven endangers human realm and creation.
Thus if they will not be better, he will wipe the slate clean.
From there you can go any way, political intrigue when overlord positions are in danger, influx of demons to hotel wanting to escape death, unrest in heaven, as angels were nice due to high quality of living but not because they were just...
Adam did nothing wrong, maybe I should write fanfic.
Let me just say, that in the season 2 for this show, Adam is for sure going to resurrect as a sinner. Because just as Pentious died and was reborn an angel at the END of season 1, won't it be fitting for Adam to be reborn as a demon at the START of the 2nd season
Nah he got killed by a angelic weapon
@@MikhailMateo-sj1yi So did Pentious when adam blasted him into oblivion with Holy Light
Nah adam wouldn't reincarnate as a sinner but he instead goes to purgatory where people suffer for temporary not permanently though
I don't think this is the last appearance of Adam I think he's going to appear in hell
The whole "relatable villain" thing I think is what people expect, and Adam throws that back in their faces (probably with some extra _whipped cream_ ) and it makes them all upsetty spaghetti. It's great to have a villain that you can enjoy but also acknowledge that they cannot be redeemed or "fixed." Hating how awful Adam is is just so refreshing!
Adam is clearly an 'epic poggers mad type'