Same. They were told that they were making mistakes at the time they were making them, but hey we're only the paying customers... They never learn from biggest mistake of all - listen to those whose money you want.
Well... yes. Think about it. If they asked us what we liked, there'd be an almighty brawl with everyone shouting across each other, and then every company would heave a deep sigh, look at the final results, maybe have a little cry, and go off and make a bunch of Fortnite clones. Because gamerz are the worst. Heck, I'M a gamer, and even I wouldn't listen to us.
idk how the hell these people get to high positions and then have balls to dictate other people what they need to like?! Like this is the easiest job on on entire planet - just support people that know what they are doing and wait for profits but there's always that pride thing that makes them earn less money that they normally should.
I'm pretty sure Gabe knew about his personality and mindset back in the early 2000s, when they had a soft "falling out" between Valve and Gearbox There's a documentary somewhere in which Randy talks about how Gabe didn't involve them in Valve's attempt at getting the Half-Life IP back from Sierra Might be a NoClip video where I saw it in
Seeing the lowest form of reddit users talk crap about the creator not knowing their own creations and how THEY'RE the ones who are right is peak reddit IMO.
@@williamyoung9401 I get that rationale, especially as people use social media to create content, not just reference it. But because people can just delete/edit whatever they want, that's a reason why, even if reddit was where we learned of the boy with two broken arms, the source should point to another place where it cannot be edited.
Have you ever produced a creative work for public consumption? I have... and I can tell you there are always unintended messages, themes, and designs to be found in creative works... ALWAYS. It is why art is considered art... it is a media which inherently invokes subjective interpretation. Creators may have their guiding light, when creating... but that doesn't make other interpretations wrong. In many cases, a creator will look at the interpretation of others and think "Huh... never thought about it that way.".
I have no hype for the Witcher 4. Too many companies obsess over the wrong things. Considering CDPR went out of their way to talk about how ESG has overtaken their company, I’m not hyped at all.
@@_MaZTeR_ With today's tech and all of the talent around it shouldn't be hard to imagine 2 or 3 Baldur's Gate 3 caliber games releasing every year, yet here we are.
You do realize these big IPs are owned by companies that religiously protect their intellectual property? Star wars, Star Trek, Warhammer 40k, just to name a few. It's corporate slop designed to sell to the largest amount of people and they can't even get that right.
I don't trust Borderlands 4, the 3rd one was such a massive downgrade from the first two (outside of gameplay), and with the way everything is now, I'm sure this one will have lots of current day stuff in it
I just love when people who don't actually understand the theme of a game franchise choose to argue with the creators when they point out that their warped view of the franchise is wrong. It shows you who actually pays attention and who is trying to inject a narrative into areas where it does not exist.
The problem is not what they take away from the story, it is indeed possible to write something that can be interpreted in a different way. What is not possible however is that the author can be wrong about the intended message, because intend by its very definition requires a conscious effort by the creator.
@@deviatetaco3757 Nah twitter and reddit are on a whole different level of degenaracy and facebook is a containment cell for old people at this point.
I truely hope that the W40k series doesnt get made at all, if that means keeping the lore integrity. As someone who recently got into 40k and seeing how Star Wars, Marvel, The Witcher and LOTR have fallen so low with these "modern audience" focused writers id rather not have a show, than have a show that ruins 40k as well.
I've always said before that if Star Wars were to go back into the Old Republic era, I believe it would be the best series ever. Such amazing characters and story. But with the way that SW has been handled, I VEHEMENTLY hope they don't touch the OR arc.
Sadly, even if it doesnt get made, it wont help, the rot is inside GW itself, the whole debacle since "warhammer is for everyone, you wont be missed" was their own doing.
Most people on Reddit and Twitter forget that voicing their opinions isn't stating facts. How narcissistic can you be thinking you're right because you get an "upvote" or like. Is your life that empty?
most of the examples shown were downvoted which meant people most disagreed with that opinion, I'm guessing the top comments painted a different narrative...
I for one don’t care about fo 1&2 or any modern bethesda story. Reddit is filled with a bunch of left leaning gender benders so there you go. They have no meaning in life which is pretty self evident based on this example
Fans have the right to have their own opinion and headcanon. But if those fans insist their opinions and headcanons are right while rejecting the statements of the original creator, then those fans are being just plain disrespectful and willfully ignorant. If they don't like what the creator, then they have always have the option to create their own story with whatever message they want. One comment brought up Ray Bradbury saying Fahrenheit 451 is not about censorship. I have actually read that book and I completely understand and agree with Bradbury. The people who constantly misinterpret it either never read the book or they went in with preconceptions and held onto them even after reading it. If someone wants to be a fan of something, then they need to accept it for what it is and not what they want it to be. There are plenty of franchises I enjoy, but I recognize their flaws. Fans can not and should not be allowed to highjack things from the creators. The people that try to are lazy and disrespectful losers who don't have the talent, skill and dedication to make their own things.
"Author misunderstands their own work." Seriously? These people are on some serious cope & sneed. Most of these people don't even like or play these games... Still can't get over "Author misunderstands his own work" - these people just want to be told what they want to hear. Nothing else will do.
Cope and seethe, this also isn’t a new thing. It happened to the creator of the original King Kong. People wanted to say it was an allegory for slavery and oppression, the creator just wanted to make monkey movie. But the creator “misunderstands his own work” because some asshat who titled themselves a critic decides it’s about something else now.
It's called Dunning-Kruger. You only have to look at certain contemporary streamers who should have no business discussing anything but press x for doubt, or "story good/bad", but somehow think they can intelligently discuss politics or philosophy. And because any niche can have its audience, they somehow become "relevant".
To be fair, Alan Moore's Watchman becomes more and more ridiculous with it's Cold War themes as time in our real world goes on, because Alan had the 80's Cold War mindset that the Soviets could stand a fighting chance against the Western world. Come '91, and that concern, and plot point became outdated.
Creative and talented devs replaced by accountants and execs. Real gamers replaced by quick-insta-fame-fake-gurus. People who, back in the day, called us 'losers' cuz we were gamers or loved Anime. Now they use our tech to make sick money, share their vanity and destroy self-esteem of others. I made a deep dive video of X360 as the last great generation, hope I'm wrong.... Great video as always.
@@williamyoung9401 Then point your finger towards those people shifting blame to customers, etc. Of all the hundreds of developers making that game, only a couple of them were acting as what you call familiar. Probably the vast majority were just working to pay the bills and get food on the table and are now disappointed they worked all in vain. And even if not, it is still unfair to throw such blanket accusations towards them based on a few bad individuals.
@@anteshell My mom.- "If your friends ask you to jump with them from a bridge, will you jump?" In this case, ANYONE that worked on the game had the choice to work on it or not. So yes, I blame EVERY SINGLE SOUL that work on that game. No excuses. A man chooses, a slave obeys.
@@NcrXnbi Did I say they didn't have a choice? No, I did not. Because that is irrelevant. The only relevant thing is whether or not they're projecting their f*ed up attitude towards the customers and the fact that this attitude is not of the company but of those few pathetic individuals. A man knows that baseless blanket accusations are just as sad as is parroting the bandwagon slogans, but apparently you choose not to use your head but slave away parroting what your bandwagon wants you to. Good luck with that.
This is nothing new. There are writers who have been locked out of Wikipedia pages about their own stories because the wokes disagree with what the writer claims they intended with their writings. Imagine the hubris of doing that to an artist
It is like one of those fans that are angry their fanfic or character romance are not canon, they cry that their delusional story in their heads is not real in the plot.
It's called Death of the Author and has been around for a long ass time. I've always maintained, unless the author has already specifically stated otherwise, they're allowed to tell you what they meant. They wrote the friggen' thing lol
In some cases it might be because the creator might have meant one thing but the audience reads more into it. This is a great example. The creator might have just intended to show that war is inevitable. The problem is, that nobody wars for wars sake. Not unless you are maybe orks in the warhammer universe. And even there they go to war to fight worthy adverseries. So war is only the tool. And in our world most reasons for war can be more power, more land, more Freedqom etc. Auf a lot of these reasons for war can be similar motivations as you can find in capitalism. And be honest you find a lot of caitalistic approaches in any Fallout game.
Rocksteady can go straight to hell for the crap they pulled out. No loss to the industry. In fact, this is what coming down the other side of the hill of bloat looks like in the gaming industry. It isn’t the first time there’s been regression and it emphasizes the necessity of quality. It will catch up with you when a bountiful market stops doing the lifting for you.
These “anti capitalists” are hilarious. Obsessed with the newest cell phone, social media, and championing big pharma. Their ignorance of world history, while feigning intelligence is hilarious.
@@leviticusprime4904 Still yes, but now we have Money. I mean you can of course always ignore us, but not the Consequences of ignoring us. P.s: As of right now, Warhammer gets only Money from me for good Games, fuck it up a bit more and i simply ignore it as there are new IP´s of that setting in the making.
The motto of Fallout is: "War. War never changes." Not "Capitalism. Capitalism never changes." When you have the lead writer of FO4 and Starfield point that out, you know you've fucked up.
@@Henbot Fallout has been about war and that despite the level of technology or age, war prevails as it's human nature. It's not about money and if it's part of an individual story, it's just a means to an end, which guess what, is war. The only glue sniffer is you here.
@@_MaZTeR_ Nar, you the huffing and you ain’t smelling glue but you sniffing Elon Musk butthole quite deeply. As someone who had played Fallout since 1997 it isn’t just about war and never has been nor some yellow peril thing.
@@_MaZTeR_ You're just wrong. You might want to dig into the lore of Fallout. It is not simply about war, but what led up to it (the powers that be), and what happens after. Capitalism is a huge part of Fallout.
Reddit, Reddit never changes. In light of having their programming challenged, Reddit launches a pre-emptive attack on an individual's opinion. Even though that individual helped create a world they enjoy. This is why I've decided to just never use Reddit outside of ttrpg clarifications.
People jump to conclusions too quickly these days. It’s all ambiguous, and no one knows yet who launched first. Vault-Tec had a plan, but China might have launched before it was put into action
Yeah, I’m concerned about Awoved as well. It looks so generic in artstyle when PoE always had its own thing going. These other signs we’re getting does not paint a good picture.
Eh... f them with their obsession about capitalism. Capitalism this, capitalism that. They're the other side of the same coin as people obsessing about woke stuff. Woke this, woke that. I mean, sure, there is criticism of corporate greed, but on the other hand, I never saw it as the main point of Fallout. I see it more about human nature, about war and about the resilience and humanity's will to survive.
@@octavianpopescu4776 what I don't get is most of these "communists" being middle class to rich assholes riding their expensive luxury suv cars to their decent to great homes or mansions with their iphones in 1st world countries it just doesn't compute for me. B***h if there was communism government would take all of that from you, are they all grifters? I don't get it.
@@googleisevil8958 There's literally no way anyone who actually plays Fallout 4 for any lengthy period of time wouldn't know about the Vault Tec Salesman. He's in Goodneighbor, not in outer space. How could someone miss him lol? Do you not explore the video games you play?
The Fallout "fans" insisting that the they know and understand the content of Fallout better than anyone is the same reason we have very little actual art anymore, instead people can just weld some twisted metal together and call it art while being paid millions to bolt the eyesore in the middle of a great historic city in the place of a real historic statue that was torn down because it offended the sub-humans.
When you have a lot of tourists you have of people wanting their head canon to be fact. Game tells you everyone going to the vaults were preselected. Random tourists: No I'm right.
A lot of people misunderstood the Fallout show about who dropped the bombs. The lady for Vault-Tec basically said they could drop a nuke if they WANTED too, not 'that they were going too. Its firmly established by Tim Cain and in the games itself that China dropped first because the US was inching closer to taking control of China so they dropped the bombs since they were going to lose.
I watched the Fallout Show to completion. Never have I watched a show more cursed by design that disregarded established lore. Howard's wife clearly stated they drop the bombs themselves. With Sinclair and House sitting in on the same meeting. Which changes their Fallout New Vegas lore.
@@IdleDrifter The show fucked up some stuff (Shady Sands, Ghouls and that weird liquid The Ghoul drinks to prevent going ferel?) but while Vault-tec said that they would drop the nuke, they were never the ones who would have dropped the nuke. Vault-tec was also controlled by the Enclave so it was never vault-tec who had access to nukes, the enclave did. We even see a shadowy figure in episode 8 which is likely an enclave member. Enclave could have dropped the nuke but its still likely China did, which is what Tim Cain has stated. If Vault-tec/enclave did drop the bombs, they would have dropped the bombs once they were ready and we know they weren't since there are several uncompleted vaults across the US. Also, If the Enclave dropped the bombs, House would have known exactly when and would have had the chip already, properly protecting Vegas and its surrounding area.
That’s a great point I never thought about. I always took it as Vault-Tec pushed China to the point of nuclear war, but it makes more sense in context for her to just be saying that they could drop the bombs themselves if they had to. Just before, House says “But we’re talking about making a significant investment based on a hypothetical. How can you guarantee results?” They also mention “rumors of the peace negotiations.” The corps are worried that these plans will be useless. They can’t be certain the war is going to end in nuclear war, so they needed to have a backup plan just in case.
@@IdleDrifter That’s actually not true. It’s just the wording that makes it sound that way. In the scene they talk about the rumors of peace negotiations and House asks why they should make such an investment when nuclear war is just a hypothetical possibility. He specifically asks how vault-tec can guarantee results, and she responds “By dropping the bombs ourself.” She’s saying they could drop the bombs if the US and China don’t. That’s how they can guarantee results. You can’t just take lines for face value. You have to find the real meaning within the context.
@@IdleDrifter Not really though. She says that Vault-Tec can drop the bomb themselves to ensure the return on the investment, but we don't see them actually launching their nukes. If anything, there are a few things that suggest that they didn't. The first one is in the same TV show. Hank uses the VT nukes to destroy Shady Sands. That would mean that VT for some reason didn't fire those select nukes in their attempts to start a WW3, because why not. The second one is House miscalculating the date of the nuclear war. As you pointed out, he was one of the people involved in the VT's vault program. If the VT really dropped the nukes, then House would simply know the date exactly. The third one is Vaults 63, 88, 114 and 118 never being completed. Which means that VT invested heavily in at least 4 experiments, just to sack it. Also, was the dude at the meeting Sinclair? Was the actor credited as Sinclair? I thought that's simply a Big Mt. representative. Lore-wise Sinclair was Big Mt's customer, not representative
"Just find cheap beachfront property and chill for a year." I remember when I was in Orange County Cali about 8 years ago, rent for a single bedroom was around $4000 a month. And I mean literally just the bedroom. Kitchen and living room had to be shared with others. I can't imagine what the prices are doing now. And what for these workers who have families? This dude thinks his workers have $100,000-$150,000 just lying around they could spend on an extended vacation.. that is wild. 😳
It's tough hearing the Anthem team try to sugar coat and tap dance around why Anthem was a failure. It honestly sounds like nothing was learned at all other than crunch bad. Can't also help but feel that anyone who DID learn anything was fired or moved on. We are stuck with the same old executives and they dont learn, they consume.
It’s sad nobody sees that the Mass effect team is actually looking quite strong at the moment, with so many returning OG devs and Mary DeMarle leading the narrative tea.
@@KeytarArgonian the sad thing is having any sort of hope just because some of the OG team members have returned. They've been so quiet on the next Mass Effect that we have no idea where it is n development. I could easily see a scenario where the studio gets axed before the game even has a chance to release if the next Dragon Age game is poorly received.
“Randy is not a good person” thats a understatement hes one of the people thats dragging borderlands to the grave he is not the only one but hes the biggest
"...and some on the team no longer want to work in games, design characters, or even do art anymore after this." Well that is great news guys! Hopefully these clowns never touch a game ever again.
I don't understand why Ubisoft doesn't focus on making more original smaller games rather than those hyper expensive AAA games. Fenyx Rising, Mario+Rabbids, Prince of Persia The Lost Crown. Every time Ubisoft have gone the smaller project, more original ideas route in the past few years, they made their best games.
Funny how people who weren't even alive when the first Fallout(Or it's inspiration Wasteland) was released think they know what the original game was about. What it has become over the decades is another matter.
@@leviticusprime4904Imagine telling the toymaker that he was wrong about the purpose of his toy. The toymaker gives the toy its purpose. You don’t have to use it the same way, but you can’t tell him he is wrong for saying the intended purpose of the toy.
ah yes, logitech wants to sell me a "forever mouse", meanwhile my g502 just had the scroll free spin toggle button break, and I have had this mouse for less than 4 years. my last mouse was some chinesium brand and it lasted over a decade before one of the switches died.
the whole point of fallout is that after the bombs fell, even in a post apocalyptic setting, war never changes. thats literally been the theme of every game to date 😭
Fallout should never have delved into the past. The past was wiped clean by the bombs dropping. All we have are echos of the past in the original games. The architecture, the rusted vehicles, and even fashion might not have been the 1950s never ending but a fad. The 1990s had a return to old fads like bell bottom pants and swing music complete with zoot suits. Hundreds of years after the bombs dropped. People might think this what everyone wore. Because history was lost. Fallout is not a critique of capitalism. Despite what the Communists on Reddit might think. Free trade, markets, and trade caravans sprung up with established currency backed by water in Fallout 1. Money backed by gold apeared in Fallout 2. Caesar's Legion had money based on gold and silver currency in Fallout New Vegas. Which was more stable and valuable than NCR fiat currency. Caps backed by water was the universal currency. Barter and traded items was also accepted. Throughout all the games. The only communes in the Fallout Universe were run by religious zealots, raiders, and cannibals. Even then there was trade until they went hostile. Descendants of the Shi were Communist Chinese but they established free markets to sell some of the best weapons and gear outside the Enclave. So how in the hell are all of these idiots missing the fact that capitalism is thriving in the wasteland. While their socialism/communism/collectivism is dead.
I swear, there is no reason why Sony and Microsoft cant make a system that plays games consistly at 60fps. The fact that (us) the consumer has paid over $500 for a PS5 or Series X was to play games at 60fps. This is the worst generation in gaming history. These systems were money grabbers to sell on the lies of Sony and Microsoft. Smmfh.
@@it2spooky4me79 exacly my point. I saw that and said to myself, that i will not purchase another gaming system. They should have just kept pushing the Ps4 and the Xbox one.
@@rontaviuswallace471 plus 700 dollars is close enough to a good PC, save up like a few hundred more dollars and you'll get a REALLY good PC that'll run 60fps, probably 120fps, but a 700 dollar console can't run 60fps, for what reason?
You are missing context. The major investors in these companies don't understand the importance of things like gameplay of stability. And because they don't understand they need pretty pictures to show improvement. So that's what is pushed pretty pictures.
Anthem would have had a much better chance at high quality despite Bioware's lack of live service experience had tge development team been allowed to learn from the mistakes and successes of of other developers and games. They weren't even allowed to discuss games like Destiny or The Division for example.
@@derrickcastle I was looking really close at the jump animations, and if you really look at the basic story concept of Anthem you can tell that was born out of the basic concept of the Andromeda story in hindsight they should have just did Andromeda first and kept certain Concepts and ideas on the back burner or at least in the freezer for anthem 🤷🏾♂️
Fallout is a real world allegory about the real intentions behind "Reimagining" anything. The pattern of movie and show makers taking the story of a game to twisting for their own narrative against the creator is a mockery of the original work. Activists take what you like and turn it into a means of pushing their views on you.
In the Fallout timeline it was a myriad of issues which led to the bombs being dropped. Inept corporations desperate for a profit in a resource strained world isn't actually a critque of capitalism. The bombs dropped in the mideast first, then the EU got involved until they used nukes, their resource limitations led the EU to disintegrate the US just happened to figure out fusion which staved off the collapse there for a bit longer (the US in Fallout was close to figuring out the food issue probably 5 years away from it and things would stabalize there) China never really got away from petro chemicals and so in desperation invaded Alaska because the US wouldn't share the technology breakthrough that led to fusion. The US was also led by a weak and inept president mixed in with greed and corruption. It's a criticism of human nature and the inevitability of war not a particular system. We just got Todd Howard who apparently couldn't give enough freedom beyond "open world"
Do cry for the game developers. They typically don’t get a say in how the game goes… They just get told the ideas. Blame the people who were responsible for the point of failure.
A subscription based mouse called the "forever" mouse? Stop paying? No more mouse! Just as hilarious as a rental company for electric cars called "MyWheels". There is nothing of that car that belongs to the renter.
I'm totally fine with the wheat being separated from the chaff. The gaming industry needs a hard reset. Beyond overdue at this point. Nobody owes you a job. Maybe if you were actually good at your job, you'd still have one.
I mostly agree with you but the problem is there are a lot of good people who are working on these games and they are being told what to do from the top down because of all this ESG money bullshit. The real answer is for those type of people to leave and start their own indie studio where they have full creative control and they don't have consulting agencies coming in and rewriting their stuff.
The Cavill roumors are so weird, There is such immense amount of content about them, but its really hard to find where its from. what I found was just that the contract talks are gonna be going till december and now there is channels with double digit hours of talks about how that means cavill is fighting amazon
It's just hope. Because if Cavill isn't fighting amazon over the changes they made to his favourite faction, the Custodes, then he'd probably lose any credibility. So, people give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that he is fighting the influence of Slaanesh, for the Glory of the God-Emperor!
@@Zenzo fully agree with you. I have read lots of rage bait videos linking female custodes to Amazon and HC. Truth is, we know pretty much zero at this stage, but we will probably find out around December. Although, hopefully, the Astartes episode on secret level, is a sign that the show will go ahead...
My guess is that Cavill tried a repeat with the shenanigans with his Superman cameo and Black Adam. Only he went a step farther and announced a deal with Amazon before even Amazon knew about it. The reasons I think this amount to 1. it was super weird for Cavill to announce that a deal had been made back in December 2022 and yet admitted there were no showrunners yet - showrunners are one of the first people you hire for a project and this typically gets figured out before a public announcement is made 2. the absolute crickets about the "Warhammer 40k cinematic universe" since December 2022. nothing's moving, actors haven't been cast, some months could be attributed to the writer's strike but we're approaching 2 years of absolutely nothinggggg. 3. all this stuff that Cavill is supposedly fighting Amazon about? this is stuff that should have already been squared away and figured out for a deal to be made in the first place. it's like someone talking about not having graduated middle school yet when they're already supposed to be in high school. So this means one of two things: the project is entirely dead in the water and has always been, or that due to Cavill jumping the gun he managed to push Amazon into some interest into actually making a WH40k cinematic universe thing but there are a lot of things about WH40k that would make Amazon Studios hesitate (especially after dumping most of its budget into Rings of Power) so any deal that DID get made Cavill lacked leverage to include any clauses that would allow him creative control to override any bs changes, and now Amazon are trying to make bs changes and Cavill's stuck not having the power to do anything about it but knows fans will be extremely unhappy if it follows through.
Groupthink tends to minimise concerns and hype up positives beyond realistic proportions. People get afraid of being seen as, “unsupportive,” or, “unduly negative,” “not a team player,” etc. like you said, “design by committee.” It dooms lots of projects, but games publishers forget that games are art first and foremost. You need a single small group or an individual with a strong artistic vision and creative control.
The Warhammer show closing was: Cavil fighting against Amazon about moving away from the lore to implement DEI set things as they did with Lotr show. They forced and pushed wanting a female custode in the show which made GW do a complete change to the established brotherhood of the custodes lore. They wanted to wait till the contact of cavil to end before they started actually going into production. Cavil may be the cause of leaks and rumors of Amazon doing a show to begin with. A GW exec, without lawyers, write up a contract with Amazon that may have given them the sole IP capability of making irl shows. There's dozens of rumors but a several seem to be off the same stuff mentioned.😊
GW shouldn't have given away their IP so easily. They've been really good about control and licencing this far, as far a si am aware, so rushing to get into bed with a studio was ... Dumb.
Wasteland - the scenario Fallout was inspired by, or copied, depending on how you want to frame it - had a much more interesting story. In Wasteland the US and USSR were in the brink of nuclear war and a defective USSR space station reentered the atmosphere in the US. The US misunderstood the parts reetering the atmosphere for a nuclear ICBMs attack and striked first.
If you watch Tim Cain's videos on his channel it is really straightforward what he's saying. He's been asked about the history of how Fallout, the original game, was made, and what they meant when they did it, to which he answered sincerely with no ulterior motive of his own. Another thing he explicitly says about Fallout lore, on his channel, is that games' lore, in general, legitimately and inevitably evolve over time and with the expansion of the original IP. Conclusion: - the original Fallout game was NOT meant as a specific critique of capitalism, - but the following iterations of the IP can definitely be that, even IF they don't betray the original game's feel. Beside that, internet be the internet, so please guys go on fighting over nothing, if you so like. Thanks for your videos!
Mafia 3 was one of those games I felt was okay on my first playthrough. The DLC's were better imo. On my second playthrough a few years later I enjoyed the Mafia 3 story a lot more.
Reddit is a massive part of the reason why we ended up in this situation. Many developers use Reddit and they unknowingly fall victim to the sanitizing echochamber.
When it comes to Fallout, I always thought that while neither side could afford to lose the war (therefore drop the bombs), neither side could afford to win either (therefore drop the bombs). Regardless of who won, resources were running out, both sides likely used up more to fight the war than they would get back if they won. When the war ended, the people in both nations would demand a rise in quality of life, but both governments knew it was impossible. The war and later the bombs were the only way the governments of both victors and losers would not be overthrown by their people.
Not really. The point is that technology and energy issues were so close to being solved, but the basic human nature to destroy fked it up. Read the fallout bibles, and timeline
It hurts me to see the gaming industry get punched with reality, but it needs to happen. They are going in a direction that isn't ideal for gamers but for publishers, and the developers are getting cut for it. COARSE CORRECTION!!!
It's funny, I've always heard people talk about how great inquisition was, but to me it was absolutely awful. I've tried countless times and can never finish the game.
If you expect Inquisition to be Origins, you're going to be disappointed. Also, you have to play the proper classes to truly enjoy your experience. For Origins, play a Warrior. For DA:2, play a melee rogue. For Inquisition, play a mage (any), if only for the story. Trust me on this.
@williamyoung9401 for me it's not about wanting inquisition to be like the others. The story is lacking in my opinion, and it's full of characters I just don't care about.
JFC people can't leave anything alone. Creator says "this is what I intended" and the Internet thinks they're smarter and say "No, you obviously don't understand your own work." FFS give your head a shake people.
I only played the Bethesda Fallouts, and watch videos about the previous ones. But for me, Fallout was always about the human nature of desiring conflict. To divide themselves and keep fighting each other, even when the world around them is in ruins.
It cannot be understated how much money Disney has screwed themselves out of with the exclusivity deal with EA. The Star Wars name isn't guaranteed sales any more, the hype is gone.
(Black Isle Fallout) Fallout 1: Scientist guy falls into a vat of chemicals and becomes a mutant/mutant supremacists that leads an army of mutants to convert the world by force. Main Quest is about you stopping that war before it comes to your vault. Fallout 2: Pre-war xenophobes kidnap and experiment on your tribe in order to take over the world. Main Quest is you stopping said xenophobes before they conquer the world. (Obsidian Fallout) Fallout New Vegas: Hoover Dam is in the midst of a power struggle between a corrupt flawed democracy that spread itself too thin, a brutal conquering dictatorship, or a scheming immortal oligarch that will ultimately escalate into another war. Pick one of the three main sides the none of the above option, and how and where to support them. Choose which of the disparate minor factions to ally or convert to you and your faction's cause or to overlook or destroy. (Bethesda Fallout) Fallout 3: Your dad was trying to purify the Potomac River, and now the xenophobes are fighting an altruistic faction of the technophobes from the first game over it. Fallout 4: 3-way war is looming between the techno-supremists, techno-phobes, and techno-philes. Pick one side or none of the above. [and that is it. There was no lack-luster Fallout MMO that shipped as an empty alpha world-space, just as there was no Elder Scrolls MMO. It was all a bad dream.] Yep, really sounds like its anti-capitalist to me, or the only thing these people played was the opening hour of the bethesda titles.
Very true, there is anti capitalism that has developed about the corps pre war but was not a main theme of the series and as just been incorporated into side lore and devs having fun on who can make the more evil corp but is not a main theme and more just a side thing
They also lie about Heinlein. Anyone who disagrees they either bully them casting them as recists or if it's too popular they say it was secretly a clever critique of catpitolism or they were secretly ghey.
What I believe has happened with the Concord art design is that they aren't bad "artists". They have a style and aesthetic that is niche, but for political-safe reasons they are being pushed to the mainstream. They aren't bad at creating art... they simply have a style that most people do not like. Not everyone likes furry art style. Not everyone likes anime art style. They have their audiences, and they sell to those audiences. There's clearly only a TINY audience for this art style, but because of political agendas, and corporate "safe" design choices, they've been gassed up as if they are some big, wonder style that has a huge audience. It sucks, and I have no idea how well things would have gone for them had they been given the truth from the start. Perhaps they would have worked on smaller projects that catered to their audience better, and done well within that environment. I'm pretty sure people would have been happier overall: artists would not get torn up by their art being presented to the wrong audience, and people would have gotten the games they wanted. All that being said, that doesn't mean we should forgive or forget. Don't just give them money and praise because we feel sorry for their circumstance. Hell, they pushed for their circumstance. And there's no condoning their comments and reactions that actively attacks people for not being their audience. It was doomed from the start, and they should have known, but were blinded by opportunity and money.
Well said! I play 'anime' games. There are groups of people that detest the art style. But such games have been around for decades so there are other people who like it enough to support it.
@@habama1077 it sure would be if it werent applied to Concord. It was engineered from the ground up for mass appeal and ended up failing. Nothing about this game was supposed to be niche.
I'm sorry - but I can't feel sorry for anyone in this BS! Why is it that we feel "sorry" for people in certain occupations when they make a SHIT product and then get fired? Saying "well they are not the ones calling the shots" - then SURE you are correct - HOWEVER - why does that make them qualify for us caring about them? THEY stuck around and continued working on this crap! THEY had LITERAL YEARS to find another job within the industry! Listen - yes - I agree that losing your job SUCKS! It's not a nice thing - however IF you stuck around with a shit company making a shit product - THAT'S ON YOU! And if you couldn't spot the failure of these products from MILES away - then I'm sorry - YOU are incompetent and should not make games and then charge me money for them! The argument that the "games industry" is "hard" - is nonsense! There are TONS of WAY harder industries - so having to feel "sorry" for this particular industry workers over ALL the others - is DUMB AF! Find a company working on a product you can get behind - and then send a job application... Or sign on to one of the many smaller devs making new and innovative games to leave a lasting impact on the industry.......... instead of developing yet another game in Frostbite - or whatever other crappy PoS the big boy company you work at is using! These people aren't "victims" - STOP IT!
I dont see any credence to the "stolen" Ace of Spades art. The fan art in question is nearly identical to the original model. And the Nerf blaster is also nearly identical to the original... turns out when people draw 2 pictures based on the same thing, those 2 pictures can look very similar.
What annoys me most about modern fallout fans they think ghouls are zombies or undead they are not dead they are survivors of a nuclear blast, so the fallout show and fallout 4 treat ghouls like zombies when they are very much alive.
Do they treat Ghouls like zombies? Last time I played Fallout 4, I didn't really see that, only the Feral Ghouls, which makes sense, since they basically lost all thinking.
Im pretty sure most people get that Ghouls are just irradiated humans but im not surprised if they see feral ghouls as zombies since they are pretty close to that.
Vault-tec, West-tec, Robco, Nuka-cola Corp, etc, were never the main antagonists of Fallout. I mean sure, they did some really messed up things, some much worse than others, but by the time the events of the games happen, all of those companies are gone, dead, dust. - Fallout 1: An army of mutants, a spooky cult that worships them, and the leader of both: A mutated, psychic blob who thinks that replacing everyone with mutants will solve all of the world's ills. - Fallout 2: The ruthless, genocidal remnants of the United States government, hellbent on creating their perfect America via poisoning the entire continent with a bioweapon. - Fallout tactics: An Insane Supercomputer with a legion of robots. Flaws in it's protocols and damage to it's processors leading it to wipe out all living things it encounters. - Fallout 3: *See Fallout 2* - Fallout New Vegas: Either a terrifying and ruthless warlord with an army of slavers and/or an egotistical and corrupt general with an army of Californians. Both of whom want to conquer Hoover Dam and Las Vegas in the name of the Emperor/President. - Fallout 4: Either a morally bankrupt scientific community that uses androids as spies and footsoldiers and who sees all other people as guinea pigs, a group of self proclaimed "freedom fighters" who love Androids a little too much, a fanatical paramilitary group that hates mutants and non-humans a little too much and wants to own all of the advanced technology in the world and leave everyone else in the stone age, or all of the above. - Fallout 76: A deadly zombie virus that was created by the same government remnants from Fallout 2 and 3. It is also controlled by a giant eyeless bat.
Can some one please explain to me, how hello games can afford doing such massive FREE updates for so long? Especially since almost every other dev demands lots of money from microtransactions and you have to buy every piece of a bigger add on these days? Does hello games some shady dark buisness going on, which gives them that much of mysterious cash?
My guess is they are their own studio without investors still selling an amazing product. They do not involve market which ruins a lot of games due to the greedy recommendations they make to take away content and ignore broken games being pushed out. They kept their word and have a great addictive product.
In Fallout lore, China launched the nukes first because the United States was developing the Forced Evolutionary Virus and China knew they couldn't stop an army of Super Mutants wearing the Red, White, and Blue.
Their intent wasn't super mutants...but super soldiers. They didn't know what FEV was going to do. It was also part of the project to have the Pan Immunity project against the New Plague. Essentially, no one really knows who shot first. The American gov't knows China launched nukes and launched a counter attack, but we don't know if Vault Tec had anything to do with goading them into action. There are a lot of shadow factions in game.
Sadly, fanart actually falls under the IP holder's rights and does not belong to the artist. Nintendo taught us that. Unless the fan art was a completely unique design, they are not protected by any licensing restrictions. Not that I am saying I believe it is right, because I don't. It's the sole reason I have never done any fanart other than anime
The only reason they think Fallout is a critique of capitalism is because it is set in America. If it was set in China, where the decaying wasteland all around would have been made by communism, then they'd think it was a critique of communism. But in the Fallout world I bet post-war America is doing way better than post-war China. So, I could see that its actually because of capitalism that we survive!
I think personally "War, war never changes." doesn't really fit in Fallout. Sure there was a war that ended everything, but throughout all the games except New Vegas. Do we actually get to see any opposing idologies or religions or just factions go to war? Sure you have raiders and the like but that isn't war, that's survival. What exactly do the Kahns believe in that makes them slavers? Nothing they just are in fallout 1. None of the settlements really have beef with one another either. You have factions in fallout 4 that want eachother gone. But with zero player agency nothing ever comes about. You never see skirmishes between them or any other kind of conflict. Even in New Vegas we see little of the conflict, not even seeing a single battle between the main factions till the very end of the game. If you want it to be about conflict fine but Fallout has fallen very short on portraying the various aspects of "why" we go to war save "resources".
Thank you for your objective, nin-emotionally charged coverage. I just want to hear what's going on in the industry, not be screamed at about it. You one of the top reporters in my eyes, keep it up.
The whole Fallout argument is just dumb. What an Author intended to say and what an individual takes away from the work are not in conflict with each other. Just because someone saw an anti-capitalist message in Fallout doesn't mean that was the authors intent. And just because it wasn't the authors intent doesn't mean someone can't see an anti-capitalist message in it. Just look at Upton Sinclair's "The Jungle".
I’m so sick of hearing “We learned from our past mistakes”
"We''re sorry" from South Park
Same. They were told that they were making mistakes at the time they were making them, but hey we're only the paying customers... They never learn from biggest mistake of all - listen to those whose money you want.
Im sick of tards giving these corpos money
As they proceed to repeat them over and over again.
Yup, and as long as the corps make profit, it won't change.
These companies would rather tell us what to like rather then asking us what we like.
you write do down wrong
its not would, its they do try to do so
Well... yes.
Think about it. If they asked us what we liked, there'd be an almighty brawl with everyone shouting across each other, and then every company would heave a deep sigh, look at the final results, maybe have a little cry, and go off and make a bunch of Fortnite clones.
Because gamerz are the worst. Heck, I'M a gamer, and even I wouldn't listen to us.
idk how the hell these people get to high positions and then have balls to dictate other people what they need to like?! Like this is the easiest job on on entire planet - just support people that know what they are doing and wait for profits but there's always that pride thing that makes them earn less money that they normally should.
@freefrombagagetoselfactualize I.. I think he's trying to speak to us?
Yep. They want you to own nothing and like it
Randy Pitchford should be damn thankful Gabe isn't as spiteful as him... without Valve and the original Half Life there would be no Gearbox.
I'm pretty sure Gabe knew about his personality and mindset back in the early 2000s, when they had a soft "falling out" between Valve and Gearbox
There's a documentary somewhere in which Randy talks about how Gabe didn't involve them in Valve's attempt at getting the Half-Life IP back from Sierra
Might be a NoClip video where I saw it in
Reddit is the LITERAL definition of an echo chamber. Wow *That* side of reddit seems absolutely unbearable
The whole site is on the spectrum. The worst kind.
The entire thing can be summarized by simply saying 'communists refute anything that negates their world view'.
You just described literally any online comment section ever 😂
Reddit is a disgusting place now
Reddit is really bad. You could post anything and under it it will say this is harmful content, and it will be removed
Seeing the lowest form of reddit users talk crap about the creator not knowing their own creations and how THEY'RE the ones who are right is peak reddit IMO.
When Wikipedia allows Reddit posts as citations, that's just the tip of the iceberg...
@@williamyoung9401 I get that rationale, especially as people use social media to create content, not just reference it. But because people can just delete/edit whatever they want, that's a reason why, even if reddit was where we learned of the boy with two broken arms, the source should point to another place where it cannot be edited.
In the interview it was stated that china launched the nukes after discovering the fev. It wasnt just because china was being aggressive
Have you ever produced a creative work for public consumption? I have... and I can tell you there are always unintended messages, themes, and designs to be found in creative works... ALWAYS. It is why art is considered art... it is a media which inherently invokes subjective interpretation. Creators may have their guiding light, when creating... but that doesn't make other interpretations wrong. In many cases, a creator will look at the interpretation of others and think "Huh... never thought about it that way.".
@@jneff6456nah, some people really just miss the mark by a mile, like all those people who argue Frodo and Samwise are gay
I have no hype for the Witcher 4. Too many companies obsess over the wrong things. Considering CDPR went out of their way to talk about how ESG has overtaken their company, I’m not hyped at all.
I'm not either unfortunately. It's hard to get excited about any game nowadays. Don't be surprised if GTA 6 is neutered.
Launch day Cyberpunk 2077 will look like a masterpiece in comparison with them going full on SweetBaby Inc mode
@@fffrrraannkk Wukong was a rare example of a game I was excited about that turned out OK
@@_MaZTeR_ With today's tech and all of the talent around it shouldn't be hard to imagine 2 or 3 Baldur's Gate 3 caliber games releasing every year, yet here we are.
As the biggest Witcher 3 fan, I'm gonna boycott it. Byee
TBH Henry should just get with fans and make fan films, screw Hollywood
He can't anyway GW shuts down anything warhammer related
You do realize these big IPs are owned by companies that religiously protect their intellectual property? Star wars, Star Trek, Warhammer 40k, just to name a few. It's corporate slop designed to sell to the largest amount of people and they can't even get that right.
@@gwaustin99 screw it make your own thing, I don't need branding at this point I just want good stuff
He should partner up with Kevin Sorbo, he's been making independent films ever since his agent told him conservatives can't work in Hollywood anymore.
And make zero dollars
I don't trust Borderlands 4, the 3rd one was such a massive downgrade from the first two (outside of gameplay), and with the way everything is now, I'm sure this one will have lots of current day stuff in it
Do you think they'll buy reviews like they did for 3 or will it be like the movie and they don't have the budget anymore?
Without a doubt. @@AlexiaHoardwing
Borderlands 3 was better in every way except for story.
Aka it's for modern audience aka a disaster
oh wait for it to be a wokefest, it was made at the peak of excitement for pronouns and made up gneders
I just love when people who don't actually understand the theme of a game franchise choose to argue with the creators when they point out that their warped view of the franchise is wrong. It shows you who actually pays attention and who is trying to inject a narrative into areas where it does not exist.
I never thought FO had theme.
To me it's just a "what if" scenario in a dystopian world.
@@maddo-hq9jr that's a perfectly fine take to have, and one that I would agree with
The problem is not what they take away from the story, it is indeed possible to write something that can be interpreted in a different way.
What is not possible however is that the author can be wrong about the intended message, because intend by its very definition requires a conscious effort by the creator.
@@homesteadlegion4419 very well said, and I fully agree with you on that.
"You'll never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy"- Old Ben Kenobi when describing Reddit.
Or Facebook, or Twitter, or youtube comment section, or just literally anywhere on the internet.
@@deviatetaco3757 Nah twitter and reddit are on a whole different level of degenaracy and facebook is a containment cell for old people at this point.
@@deviatetaco3757 reddit wins with a huge margin. thats how bad it is.
just imagine youtube, but without the pretense of impartiality
@@thefool8224idk X is definitely up there
I remember when many if us thought youtube comment section was bad. Then I saw tiktok, x and other sites and no longer even put YT on that list.😅
Going after Tim Cain for clarifying the themes of his own game just goes to prove one point: Stupid. Stupid never changes.
I truely hope that the W40k series doesnt get made at all, if that means keeping the lore integrity. As someone who recently got into 40k and seeing how Star Wars, Marvel, The Witcher and LOTR have fallen so low with these "modern audience" focused writers id rather not have a show, than have a show that ruins 40k as well.
@@Embre_2 yup it's 1000% obvious Henry wants this to be as faithful as possible. But Amazon, probably wants this to be as "Modern" as possible
I've always said before that if Star Wars were to go back into the Old Republic era, I believe it would be the best series ever. Such amazing characters and story. But with the way that SW has been handled, I VEHEMENTLY hope they don't touch the OR arc.
These companies have a golden goose in their laps and they still opt to target this mythical "modern audience." It's just hilarious.
Sadly, even if it doesnt get made, it wont help, the rot is inside GW itself, the whole debacle since "warhammer is for everyone, you wont be missed" was their own doing.
Is already going that way...
Most people on Reddit and Twitter forget that voicing their opinions isn't stating facts. How narcissistic can you be thinking you're right because you get an "upvote" or like. Is your life that empty?
most of the examples shown were downvoted which meant people most disagreed with that opinion, I'm guessing the top comments painted a different narrative...
I for one don’t care about fo 1&2 or any modern bethesda story. Reddit is filled with a bunch of left leaning gender benders so there you go. They have no meaning in life which is pretty self evident based on this example
Fans have the right to have their own opinion and headcanon. But if those fans insist their opinions and headcanons are right while rejecting the statements of the original creator, then those fans are being just plain disrespectful and willfully ignorant. If they don't like what the creator, then they have always have the option to create their own story with whatever message they want.
One comment brought up Ray Bradbury saying Fahrenheit 451 is not about censorship. I have actually read that book and I completely understand and agree with Bradbury. The people who constantly misinterpret it either never read the book or they went in with preconceptions and held onto them even after reading it.
If someone wants to be a fan of something, then they need to accept it for what it is and not what they want it to be. There are plenty of franchises I enjoy, but I recognize their flaws.
Fans can not and should not be allowed to highjack things from the creators. The people that try to are lazy and disrespectful losers who don't have the talent, skill and dedication to make their own things.
It's easy to read your own politics in things when you shove them into everything and then declare that "everything is political".
Yes, yes it is that empty. Social media is a mistake
"Author misunderstands their own work." Seriously? These people are on some serious cope & sneed.
Most of these people don't even like or play these games... Still can't get over "Author misunderstands his own work" - these people just want to be told what they want to hear. Nothing else will do.
Cope and seethe, this also isn’t a new thing. It happened to the creator of the original King Kong. People wanted to say it was an allegory for slavery and oppression, the creator just wanted to make monkey movie.
But the creator “misunderstands his own work” because some asshat who titled themselves a critic decides it’s about something else now.
It's called Dunning-Kruger. You only have to look at certain contemporary streamers who should have no business discussing anything but press x for doubt, or "story good/bad", but somehow think they can intelligently discuss politics or philosophy. And because any niche can have its audience, they somehow become "relevant".
@@wreagfetypical socialists. Literal “AcHtUaLlY” people.
@@wreagfe cough* hassan cough*
To be fair, Alan Moore's Watchman becomes more and more ridiculous with it's Cold War themes as time in our real world goes on, because Alan had the 80's Cold War mindset that the Soviets could stand a fighting chance against the Western world. Come '91, and that concern, and plot point became outdated.
Creative and talented devs replaced by accountants and execs. Real gamers replaced by quick-insta-fame-fake-gurus. People who, back in the day, called us 'losers' cuz we were gamers or loved Anime. Now they use our tech to make sick money, share their vanity and destroy self-esteem of others. I made a deep dive video of X360 as the last great generation, hope I'm wrong.... Great video as always.
I don't feel bad for the devs of concord.
They got what they wanted. Keep them out of the industry FOREVER.
word!!!!
Blaming the customers/associates for the corporations' own failures. Yeah, that sounds familiar...
@@williamyoung9401 Then point your finger towards those people shifting blame to customers, etc. Of all the hundreds of developers making that game, only a couple of them were acting as what you call familiar. Probably the vast majority were just working to pay the bills and get food on the table and are now disappointed they worked all in vain. And even if not, it is still unfair to throw such blanket accusations towards them based on a few bad individuals.
@@anteshell
My mom.- "If your friends ask you to jump with them from a bridge, will you jump?"
In this case, ANYONE that worked on the game had the choice to work on it or not.
So yes, I blame EVERY SINGLE SOUL that work on that game. No excuses.
A man chooses, a slave obeys.
@@NcrXnbi Did I say they didn't have a choice? No, I did not. Because that is irrelevant.
The only relevant thing is whether or not they're projecting their f*ed up attitude towards the customers and the fact that this attitude is not of the company but of those few pathetic individuals.
A man knows that baseless blanket accusations are just as sad as is parroting the bandwagon slogans, but apparently you choose not to use your head but slave away parroting what your bandwagon wants you to. Good luck with that.
Imagine lecturing the creator of (X) on what they "aCTUaLlY" meant by their story.
This is nothing new. There are writers who have been locked out of Wikipedia pages about their own stories because the wokes disagree with what the writer claims they intended with their writings. Imagine the hubris of doing that to an artist
It is like one of those fans that are angry their fanfic or character romance are not canon, they cry that their delusional story in their heads is not real in the plot.
everyone has been happy to say exactly that to George Lucas for like 20 years
It's called Death of the Author and has been around for a long ass time.
I've always maintained, unless the author has already specifically stated otherwise, they're allowed to tell you what they meant. They wrote the friggen' thing lol
In some cases it might be because the creator might have meant one thing but the audience reads more into it.
This is a great example. The creator might have just intended to show that war is inevitable. The problem is, that nobody wars for wars sake. Not unless you are maybe orks in the warhammer universe. And even there they go to war to fight worthy adverseries. So war is only the tool. And in our world most reasons for war can be more power, more land, more Freedqom etc. Auf a lot of these reasons for war can be similar motivations as you can find in capitalism. And be honest you find a lot of caitalistic approaches in any Fallout game.
"Learn to Code" is now "Drive an Uber".
Rocksteady can go straight to hell for the crap they pulled out. No loss to the industry.
In fact, this is what coming down the other side of the hill of bloat looks like in the gaming industry. It isn’t the first time there’s been regression and it emphasizes the necessity of quality.
It will catch up with you when a bountiful market stops doing the lifting for you.
Most of the good devs pulled out during Suicide Squad's development before release anyways.
@@cin2110 yeah, nothing value was lost.
These “anti capitalists” are hilarious. Obsessed with the newest cell phone, social media, and championing big pharma. Their ignorance of world history, while feigning intelligence is hilarious.
They fellate modern finance more than anyone. It's really sad.
The real anti modern finance people are the third position people.
They are the biggest defenders of financial structures of all indeed. The people who are actually anti finance are the 3rd position folks.
That's why they're called "champagne socialists".
The worst to me is Hasan Piker. The socialist who cries about capitalism in is multi-million dollar home while profiting off capitalism.
"but i cant fight my capitalist oppressors with a tech disadvantage!!! 😮 " -Any champagne socialist/poetry slam communist
“The warhammer40k show may never see the light of day.”
WarHammer fans: “YES- I mean, oh no! How terrible!”
Wow you people really are children
@@leviticusprime4904 Is that the best you’ve got?
@@leviticusprime4904 Still yes, but now we have Money. I mean you can of course always ignore us, but not the Consequences of ignoring us.
P.s: As of right now, Warhammer gets only Money from me for good Games, fuck it up a bit more and i simply ignore it as there are new IP´s of that setting in the making.
@@leviticusprime4904at least we're people.
@@leviticusprime4904 If it keeps you away, its a win
The motto of Fallout is: "War. War never changes." Not "Capitalism. Capitalism never changes."
When you have the lead writer of FO4 and Starfield point that out, you know you've fucked up.
Fallout is literally about many things and all about the human condition including capitalism so stop huffing the paint with nonsense.
@@Henbot Fallout has been about war and that despite the level of technology or age, war prevails as it's human nature. It's not about money and if it's part of an individual story, it's just a means to an end, which guess what, is war.
The only glue sniffer is you here.
@@Henbot Should I take the creator's word or some randoms? Hmmm....
@@_MaZTeR_ Nar, you the huffing and you ain’t smelling glue but you sniffing Elon Musk butthole quite deeply. As someone who had played Fallout since 1997 it isn’t just about war and never has been nor some yellow peril thing.
@@_MaZTeR_ You're just wrong. You might want to dig into the lore of Fallout. It is not simply about war, but what led up to it (the powers that be), and what happens after. Capitalism is a huge part of Fallout.
Reddit, Reddit never changes.
In light of having their programming challenged, Reddit launches a pre-emptive attack on an individual's opinion. Even though that individual helped create a world they enjoy.
This is why I've decided to just never use Reddit outside of ttrpg clarifications.
Vaul Tech was never the main villain, wtf are these people talking about?
It was turned into the main villain when Bethesda took over. Which is kinda shallow when you think about it...
They only played 4 and 76
They only saw the TV show.
@@googleisevil8958 Bethesdas head cannon isn’t cannon.😂
People jump to conclusions too quickly these days. It’s all ambiguous, and no one knows yet who launched first. Vault-Tec had a plan, but China might have launched before it was put into action
That Avowed statement reminds me of how Kill the Justice League looks worse than decade old Arkham Games
Yeah, I’m concerned about Awoved as well. It looks so generic in artstyle when PoE always had its own thing going. These other signs we’re getting does not paint a good picture.
All the tankies mad at Tim Cain lmao not surprising at all
Eh... f them with their obsession about capitalism. Capitalism this, capitalism that. They're the other side of the same coin as people obsessing about woke stuff. Woke this, woke that. I mean, sure, there is criticism of corporate greed, but on the other hand, I never saw it as the main point of Fallout. I see it more about human nature, about war and about the resilience and humanity's will to survive.
@@octavianpopescu4776 what I don't get is most of these "communists" being middle class to rich assholes riding their expensive luxury suv cars to their decent to great homes or mansions with their iphones in 1st world countries it just doesn't compute for me. B***h if there was communism government would take all of that from you, are they all grifters? I don't get it.
@@octavianpopescu4776 exactly, it's just people injecting their world views on everything and missing the entire point of the plot.
@@octavianpopescu4776the funniest part about it all is that all of these people benefit from capitalism every single day.
"You criticize society yet you exist"
Most these people with opinions haven't even played the original Fallout. They are basing their knowledge off Todd Howards version.
You don't need to play the original Fallout to understand these people are wrong.
I mean even in Fallout 3 and Fallout 4 disapproves what these people are talking about, and those are Bethesda's Fallouts.
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@@PenSupremacist Anytime
It's good to see Chris Avelone defending Tim. It's absolutely wild how people are completely misunderstanding what he's talking about.
Thanks!
The irony is that Bioware is making new mistakes...
the vault tec guy also didnt die... you can find him alive (just not well) in Goodneighbor in the Hotel Rexford in 2287.
Yeah he became a Ghoul and we can even send him on one of the settlements in our control.
They don't buy or play the games they are grifters.
He is kinda out of the way so perhaps Legacy never found him. There are still a lot of easily missable things in 4.
@@cin2110 Uh... you know it's rather easy to miss this guy if you don't explore the Hotel right? He's not exactly in an easy to find spot.
@@googleisevil8958 There's literally no way anyone who actually plays Fallout 4 for any lengthy period of time wouldn't know about the Vault Tec Salesman. He's in Goodneighbor, not in outer space. How could someone miss him lol? Do you not explore the video games you play?
The Fallout "fans" insisting that the they know and understand the content of Fallout better than anyone is the same reason we have very little actual art anymore, instead people can just weld some twisted metal together and call it art while being paid millions to bolt the eyesore in the middle of a great historic city in the place of a real historic statue that was torn down because it offended the sub-humans.
When you have a lot of tourists you have of people wanting their head canon to be fact. Game tells you everyone going to the vaults were preselected. Random tourists: No I'm right.
A. Fucking. MOUSE SUBSCRIPTION?
"You will own nothing and you will be happy."
Have you ever seen the movie, 'They Live'? Prophetic... "I've got one that can SEE!" 👾
Can't wait for a "Life subscription", if you want to live, gotta pay up, oh wait that already exists....
I’ve seen subscriptions for meals, for clothing, for razors, and even underwear. But now mice?
Related to that, I wonder if MeUndies still exists. They used to sponsor Rooster Teeth.
A lot of people misunderstood the Fallout show about who dropped the bombs. The lady for Vault-Tec basically said they could drop a nuke if they WANTED too, not 'that they were going too.
Its firmly established by Tim Cain and in the games itself that China dropped first because the US was inching closer to taking control of China so they dropped the bombs since they were going to lose.
I watched the Fallout Show to completion. Never have I watched a show more cursed by design that disregarded established lore. Howard's wife clearly stated they drop the bombs themselves. With Sinclair and House sitting in on the same meeting. Which changes their Fallout New Vegas lore.
@@IdleDrifter The show fucked up some stuff (Shady Sands, Ghouls and that weird liquid The Ghoul drinks to prevent going ferel?) but while Vault-tec said that they would drop the nuke, they were never the ones who would have dropped the nuke. Vault-tec was also controlled by the Enclave so it was never vault-tec who had access to nukes, the enclave did. We even see a shadowy figure in episode 8 which is likely an enclave member. Enclave could have dropped the nuke but its still likely China did, which is what Tim Cain has stated.
If Vault-tec/enclave did drop the bombs, they would have dropped the bombs once they were ready and we know they weren't since there are several uncompleted vaults across the US. Also, If the Enclave dropped the bombs, House would have known exactly when and would have had the chip already, properly protecting Vegas and its surrounding area.
That’s a great point I never thought about. I always took it as Vault-Tec pushed China to the point of nuclear war, but it makes more sense in context for her to just be saying that they could drop the bombs themselves if they had to. Just before, House says
“But we’re talking about making a significant investment based on a hypothetical. How can you guarantee results?”
They also mention “rumors of the peace negotiations.” The corps are worried that these plans will be useless. They can’t be certain the war is going to end in nuclear war, so they needed to have a backup plan just in case.
@@IdleDrifter That’s actually not true. It’s just the wording that makes it sound that way. In the scene they talk about the rumors of peace negotiations and House asks why they should make such an investment when nuclear war is just a hypothetical possibility. He specifically asks how vault-tec can guarantee results, and she responds “By dropping the bombs ourself.”
She’s saying they could drop the bombs if the US and China don’t. That’s how they can guarantee results. You can’t just take lines for face value. You have to find the real meaning within the context.
@@IdleDrifter
Not really though.
She says that Vault-Tec can drop the bomb themselves to ensure the return on the investment, but we don't see them actually launching their nukes.
If anything, there are a few things that suggest that they didn't.
The first one is in the same TV show. Hank uses the VT nukes to destroy Shady Sands. That would mean that VT for some reason didn't fire those select nukes in their attempts to start a WW3, because why not.
The second one is House miscalculating the date of the nuclear war. As you pointed out, he was one of the people involved in the VT's vault program. If the VT really dropped the nukes, then House would simply know the date exactly.
The third one is Vaults 63, 88, 114 and 118 never being completed. Which means that VT invested heavily in at least 4 experiments, just to sack it.
Also, was the dude at the meeting Sinclair? Was the actor credited as Sinclair? I thought that's simply a Big Mt. representative. Lore-wise Sinclair was Big Mt's customer, not representative
"Fuck your career it doesn't matter, just drive Uber!" What a horrible person.
"Just find cheap beachfront property and chill for a year."
I remember when I was in Orange County Cali about 8 years ago, rent for a single bedroom was around $4000 a month. And I mean literally just the bedroom. Kitchen and living room had to be shared with others.
I can't imagine what the prices are doing now.
And what for these workers who have families?
This dude thinks his workers have $100,000-$150,000 just lying around they could spend on an extended vacation.. that is wild. 😳
Gaming Circle Jerks have one of the stupidest takes in history. They are worse than IGN trying to play games or Verge trying to build a PC.
They are some of the most obnoxious lefties I’ve ever seen
It's tough hearing the Anthem team try to sugar coat and tap dance around why Anthem was a failure. It honestly sounds like nothing was learned at all other than crunch bad. Can't also help but feel that anyone who DID learn anything was fired or moved on. We are stuck with the same old executives and they dont learn, they consume.
Waiting for Ubi and Bioware to go under.
Waiting for Tom Clancy's games and Mass Effect handed over to someone competent
@@_MaZTeR_ I want so many games to be sold to actually competent game studios and companies.
It’s sad nobody sees that the Mass effect team is actually looking quite strong at the moment, with so many returning OG devs and Mary DeMarle leading the narrative tea.
@@KeytarArgonian the sad thing is having any sort of hope just because some of the OG team members have returned.
They've been so quiet on the next Mass Effect that we have no idea where it is n development. I could easily see a scenario where the studio gets axed before the game even has a chance to release if the next Dragon Age game is poorly received.
@@juliusc.8711 Me too, but the list of allies is growing thin.
“Randy is not a good person” thats a understatement hes one of the people thats dragging borderlands to the grave he is not the only one but hes the biggest
The sales men didn't die he became a goul.
"...and some on the team no longer want to work in games, design characters, or even do art anymore after this."
Well that is great news guys! Hopefully these clowns never touch a game ever again.
I don't understand why Ubisoft doesn't focus on making more original smaller games rather than those hyper expensive AAA games.
Fenyx Rising, Mario+Rabbids, Prince of Persia The Lost Crown.
Every time Ubisoft have gone the smaller project, more original ideas route in the past few years, they made their best games.
Because stockholders and executives only understand things starting with a 7 digit budget proposal.
It's almost like the people at the top of some games aren't gamers...
Funny how people who weren't even alive when the first Fallout(Or it's inspiration Wasteland) was released think they know what the original game was about. What it has become over the decades is another matter.
I’m sorry some else is playing with your toys
@@leviticusprime4904 I just think the media literacy pseudo intellectuals are funny.
@@leviticusprime4904Imagine telling the toymaker that he was wrong about the purpose of his toy. The toymaker gives the toy its purpose. You don’t have to use it the same way, but you can’t tell him he is wrong for saying the intended purpose of the toy.
the bots are in full swing
What bots?
@@Graavigala85 "anyone who disagrees with me is a bot"
Bot here: I don’t care what your school taught you. Samurai and Shinobi were pansexual blak men, and pansexual women.
You talking about the OF bots?
@@Leon-kt4cl Instead of disagreeing with us on the internet, how about they support these games in real life then, if they are so real
Crazy how 7 million Copies sold for Days gone is not enough for Sony to let them do Days gone 2 the same is exactly happening with bloodborne
Concord should be an eye opener for Sony.
ah yes, logitech wants to sell me a "forever mouse", meanwhile my g502 just had the scroll free spin toggle button break, and I have had this mouse for less than 4 years. my last mouse was some chinesium brand and it lasted over a decade before one of the switches died.
the whole point of fallout is that after the bombs fell, even in a post apocalyptic setting, war never changes. thats literally been the theme of every game to date 😭
Fallout should never have delved into the past. The past was wiped clean by the bombs dropping. All we have are echos of the past in the original games. The architecture, the rusted vehicles, and even fashion might not have been the 1950s never ending but a fad. The 1990s had a return to old fads like bell bottom pants and swing music complete with zoot suits. Hundreds of years after the bombs dropped. People might think this what everyone wore. Because history was lost.
Fallout is not a critique of capitalism. Despite what the Communists on Reddit might think. Free trade, markets, and trade caravans sprung up with established currency backed by water in Fallout 1. Money backed by gold apeared in Fallout 2. Caesar's Legion had money based on gold and silver currency in Fallout New Vegas. Which was more stable and valuable than NCR fiat currency. Caps backed by water was the universal currency.
Barter and traded items was also accepted. Throughout all the games. The only communes in the Fallout Universe were run by religious zealots, raiders, and cannibals. Even then there was trade until they went hostile. Descendants of the Shi were Communist Chinese but they established free markets to sell some of the best weapons and gear outside the Enclave.
So how in the hell are all of these idiots missing the fact that capitalism is thriving in the wasteland. While their socialism/communism/collectivism is dead.
No one ever said communists were smart.
The intro of the frist Fallout is talking about the past(Germany,Roman empire).You just show that you ignorant about the basic.
I swear, there is no reason why Sony and Microsoft cant make a system that plays games consistly at 60fps. The fact that (us) the consumer has paid over $500 for a PS5 or Series X was to play games at 60fps. This is the worst generation in gaming history. These systems were money grabbers to sell on the lies of Sony and Microsoft. Smmfh.
Then Sony says, 700 dollars for PS5 Pro and these games can only run 30fps, BUT you get higher fidelity, like what?
@@it2spooky4me79 exacly my point. I saw that and said to myself, that i will not purchase another gaming system. They should have just kept pushing the Ps4 and the Xbox one.
@@rontaviuswallace471 plus 700 dollars is close enough to a good PC, save up like a few hundred more dollars and you'll get a REALLY good PC that'll run 60fps, probably 120fps, but a 700 dollar console can't run 60fps, for what reason?
You are missing context. The major investors in these companies don't understand the importance of things like gameplay of stability. And because they don't understand they need pretty pictures to show improvement. So that's what is pushed pretty pictures.
@@it2spooky4me79 im already looking for one at the moment.
Anthem would have had a much better chance at high quality despite Bioware's lack of live service experience had tge development team been allowed to learn from the mistakes and successes of of other developers and games. They weren't even allowed to discuss games like Destiny or The Division for example.
From playing both Anthem and Andromeda, you can tell originally they were supposed to be one game.
@@EastlakeRasta7 that's a nice observation. Never even thought of it
@@derrickcastle I was looking really close at the jump animations, and if you really look at the basic story concept of Anthem you can tell that was born out of the basic concept of the Andromeda story in hindsight they should have just did Andromeda first and kept certain Concepts and ideas on the back burner or at least in the freezer for anthem 🤷🏾♂️
Fallout is a real world allegory about the real intentions behind "Reimagining" anything. The pattern of movie and show makers taking the story of a game to twisting for their own narrative against the creator is a mockery of the original work.
Activists take what you like and turn it into a means of pushing their views on you.
In the Fallout timeline it was a myriad of issues which led to the bombs being dropped. Inept corporations desperate for a profit in a resource strained world isn't actually a critque of capitalism. The bombs dropped in the mideast first, then the EU got involved until they used nukes, their resource limitations led the EU to disintegrate the US just happened to figure out fusion which staved off the collapse there for a bit longer (the US in Fallout was close to figuring out the food issue probably 5 years away from it and things would stabalize there) China never really got away from petro chemicals and so in desperation invaded Alaska because the US wouldn't share the technology breakthrough that led to fusion. The US was also led by a weak and inept president mixed in with greed and corruption.
It's a criticism of human nature and the inevitability of war not a particular system. We just got Todd Howard who apparently couldn't give enough freedom beyond "open world"
Remember blue collar workers that lost their jobs being told to learn to code?Excuse me if I don’t cry for game devs.
Do cry for the game developers. They typically don’t get a say in how the game goes… They just get told the ideas. Blame the people who were responsible for the point of failure.
A subscription based mouse called the "forever" mouse? Stop paying? No more mouse!
Just as hilarious as a rental company for electric cars called "MyWheels". There is nothing of that car that belongs to the renter.
I'm totally fine with the wheat being separated from the chaff. The gaming industry needs a hard reset. Beyond overdue at this point. Nobody owes you a job. Maybe if you were actually good at your job, you'd still have one.
I mostly agree with you but the problem is there are a lot of good people who are working on these games and they are being told what to do from the top down because of all this ESG money bullshit.
The real answer is for those type of people to leave and start their own indie studio where they have full creative control and they don't have consulting agencies coming in and rewriting their stuff.
Why bother showing Reddit comments about Fallout that have negative karma scores?
The Cavill roumors are so weird, There is such immense amount of content about them, but its really hard to find where its from.
what I found was just that the contract talks are gonna be going till december
and now there is channels with double digit hours of talks about how that means cavill is fighting amazon
It’s probably just outrage grifters making crap up.
It's just hope.
Because if Cavill isn't fighting amazon over the changes they made to his favourite faction, the Custodes, then he'd probably lose any credibility.
So, people give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that he is fighting the influence of Slaanesh, for the Glory of the God-Emperor!
@@Zenzo fully agree with you. I have read lots of rage bait videos linking female custodes to Amazon and HC. Truth is, we know pretty much zero at this stage, but we will probably find out around December.
Although, hopefully, the Astartes episode on secret level, is a sign that the show will go ahead...
My guess is that Cavill tried a repeat with the shenanigans with his Superman cameo and Black Adam. Only he went a step farther and announced a deal with Amazon before even Amazon knew about it. The reasons I think this amount to
1. it was super weird for Cavill to announce that a deal had been made back in December 2022 and yet admitted there were no showrunners yet - showrunners are one of the first people you hire for a project and this typically gets figured out before a public announcement is made
2. the absolute crickets about the "Warhammer 40k cinematic universe" since December 2022. nothing's moving, actors haven't been cast, some months could be attributed to the writer's strike but we're approaching 2 years of absolutely nothinggggg.
3. all this stuff that Cavill is supposedly fighting Amazon about? this is stuff that should have already been squared away and figured out for a deal to be made in the first place. it's like someone talking about not having graduated middle school yet when they're already supposed to be in high school.
So this means one of two things: the project is entirely dead in the water and has always been, or that due to Cavill jumping the gun he managed to push Amazon into some interest into actually making a WH40k cinematic universe thing but there are a lot of things about WH40k that would make Amazon Studios hesitate (especially after dumping most of its budget into Rings of Power) so any deal that DID get made Cavill lacked leverage to include any clauses that would allow him creative control to override any bs changes, and now Amazon are trying to make bs changes and Cavill's stuck not having the power to do anything about it but knows fans will be extremely unhappy if it follows through.
Groupthink tends to minimise concerns and hype up positives beyond realistic proportions. People get afraid of being seen as, “unsupportive,” or, “unduly negative,” “not a team player,” etc. like you said, “design by committee.” It dooms lots of projects, but games publishers forget that games are art first and foremost. You need a single small group or an individual with a strong artistic vision and creative control.
Very fitting how the franchise about war’s relation to human nature has a community constantly infighting about the main theme of the games.
The Warhammer show closing was:
Cavil fighting against Amazon about moving away from the lore to implement DEI set things as they did with Lotr show.
They forced and pushed wanting a female custode in the show which made GW do a complete change to the established brotherhood of the custodes lore.
They wanted to wait till the contact of cavil to end before they started actually going into production.
Cavil may be the cause of leaks and rumors of Amazon doing a show to begin with.
A GW exec, without lawyers, write up a contract with Amazon that may have given them the sole IP capability of making irl shows.
There's dozens of rumors but a several seem to be off the same stuff mentioned.😊
GW shouldn't have given away their IP so easily. They've been really good about control and licencing this far, as far a si am aware, so rushing to get into bed with a studio was ... Dumb.
Wasteland - the scenario Fallout was inspired by, or copied, depending on how you want to frame it - had a much more interesting story. In Wasteland the US and USSR were in the brink of nuclear war and a defective USSR space station reentered the atmosphere in the US. The US misunderstood the parts reetering the atmosphere for a nuclear ICBMs attack and striked first.
If you watch Tim Cain's videos on his channel it is really straightforward what he's saying.
He's been asked about the history of how Fallout, the original game, was made,
and what they meant when they did it, to which he answered sincerely with no ulterior motive of his own.
Another thing he explicitly says about Fallout lore, on his channel,
is that games' lore, in general, legitimately and inevitably evolve over time and with the expansion of the original IP.
Conclusion:
- the original Fallout game was NOT meant as a specific critique of capitalism,
- but the following iterations of the IP can definitely be that, even IF they don't betray the original game's feel.
Beside that, internet be the internet,
so please guys go on fighting over nothing,
if you so like.
Thanks for your videos!
So basically fallout can be a critique of capitalism if it so wants so why are these people mad then
@@leviticusprime4904
"... that is the question"
Mafia 3 was one of those games I felt was okay on my first playthrough. The DLC's were better imo.
On my second playthrough a few years later I enjoyed the Mafia 3 story a lot more.
Mafia 3 always looked like a generic/Ubisoft approach to open worlds. After playing it, even with its faults I enjoyed it almost from top to bottom.
The story was amazing in my opinion, felt more connected with Lincoln than in Mafia 2. Gameplay reminded me of Scarface.
15:20 these are the same people who ship characters in children's cartoons, so their mental state is questionable at best
Reddit is a massive part of the reason why we ended up in this situation. Many developers use Reddit and they unknowingly fall victim to the sanitizing echochamber.
To say fallout is about capitalism is like falling off your bike and blaming the Star Wars holiday special 😂
When it comes to Fallout, I always thought that while neither side could afford to lose the war (therefore drop the bombs), neither side could afford to win either (therefore drop the bombs). Regardless of who won, resources were running out, both sides likely used up more to fight the war than they would get back if they won. When the war ended, the people in both nations would demand a rise in quality of life, but both governments knew it was impossible. The war and later the bombs were the only way the governments of both victors and losers would not be overthrown by their people.
Not really. The point is that technology and energy issues were so close to being solved, but the basic human nature to destroy fked it up. Read the fallout bibles, and timeline
@@jeremiahjohnson2784 The Fallout Bible is non-cannon. I go by what is shown in the games.
It hurts me to see the gaming industry get punched with reality, but it needs to happen. They are going in a direction that isn't ideal for gamers but for publishers, and the developers are getting cut for it.
COARSE CORRECTION!!!
It's becoming more and more clear that maybe, just maybe, we should START throwing some of the blame to the devs.
Looks like hellboy is moonlighting in concord
Amazon and Netflix need to get off their soapbox, and stop virtue signaling.
Dragon Age: Inquisition was hot dog shit idk why anyone would expect better from DA3.
It's funny, I've always heard people talk about how great inquisition was, but to me it was absolutely awful. I've tried countless times and can never finish the game.
@@bobvance1456I didn't. I've been pointing out DA'S fall since 2.
If you expect Inquisition to be Origins, you're going to be disappointed. Also, you have to play the proper classes to truly enjoy your experience. For Origins, play a Warrior. For DA:2, play a melee rogue. For Inquisition, play a mage (any), if only for the story. Trust me on this.
@williamyoung9401 for me it's not about wanting inquisition to be like the others. The story is lacking in my opinion, and it's full of characters I just don't care about.
Don’t worry guys, DA: Failguard will be great.
JFC people can't leave anything alone. Creator says "this is what I intended" and the Internet thinks they're smarter and say "No, you obviously don't understand your own work." FFS give your head a shake people.
I only played the Bethesda Fallouts, and watch videos about the previous ones. But for me, Fallout was always about the human nature of desiring conflict. To divide themselves and keep fighting each other, even when the world around them is in ruins.
Imagine trying to tell Tim Cain what fallout is about.
It cannot be understated how much money Disney has screwed themselves out of with the exclusivity deal with EA.
The Star Wars name isn't guaranteed sales any more, the hype is gone.
*it cannot be understated how much money Disney has screwed themselves out of with their take on Star Wars.
(Black Isle Fallout)
Fallout 1: Scientist guy falls into a vat of chemicals and becomes a mutant/mutant supremacists that leads an army of mutants to convert the world by force. Main Quest is about you stopping that war before it comes to your vault.
Fallout 2: Pre-war xenophobes kidnap and experiment on your tribe in order to take over the world. Main Quest is you stopping said xenophobes before they conquer the world.
(Obsidian Fallout)
Fallout New Vegas: Hoover Dam is in the midst of a power struggle between a corrupt flawed democracy that spread itself too thin, a brutal conquering dictatorship, or a scheming immortal oligarch that will ultimately escalate into another war. Pick one of the three main sides the none of the above option, and how and where to support them. Choose which of the disparate minor factions to ally or convert to you and your faction's cause or to overlook or destroy.
(Bethesda Fallout)
Fallout 3: Your dad was trying to purify the Potomac River, and now the xenophobes are fighting an altruistic faction of the technophobes from the first game over it.
Fallout 4: 3-way war is looming between the techno-supremists, techno-phobes, and techno-philes. Pick one side or none of the above.
[and that is it. There was no lack-luster Fallout MMO that shipped as an empty alpha world-space, just as there was no Elder Scrolls MMO. It was all a bad dream.]
Yep, really sounds like its anti-capitalist to me, or the only thing these people played was the opening hour of the bethesda titles.
Very true, there is anti capitalism that has developed about the corps pre war but was not a main theme of the series and as just been incorporated into side lore and devs having fun on who can make the more evil corp but is not a main theme and more just a side thing
@6:02 You know the reason why bro…
Leftism
They also lie about Heinlein. Anyone who disagrees they either bully them casting them as recists or if it's too popular they say it was secretly a clever critique of catpitolism or they were secretly ghey.
What I believe has happened with the Concord art design is that they aren't bad "artists". They have a style and aesthetic that is niche, but for political-safe reasons they are being pushed to the mainstream.
They aren't bad at creating art... they simply have a style that most people do not like.
Not everyone likes furry art style. Not everyone likes anime art style. They have their audiences, and they sell to those audiences.
There's clearly only a TINY audience for this art style, but because of political agendas, and corporate "safe" design choices, they've been gassed up as if they are some big, wonder style that has a huge audience. It sucks, and I have no idea how well things would have gone for them had they been given the truth from the start. Perhaps they would have worked on smaller projects that catered to their audience better, and done well within that environment.
I'm pretty sure people would have been happier overall: artists would not get torn up by their art being presented to the wrong audience, and people would have gotten the games they wanted.
All that being said, that doesn't mean we should forgive or forget. Don't just give them money and praise because we feel sorry for their circumstance. Hell, they pushed for their circumstance. And there's no condoning their comments and reactions that actively attacks people for not being their audience. It was doomed from the start, and they should have known, but were blinded by opportunity and money.
"This doesnt suck, its just niche." Lol
Well said!
I play 'anime' games. There are groups of people that detest the art style. But such games have been around for decades so there are other people who like it enough to support it.
@@habama1077 it sure would be if it werent applied to Concord. It was engineered from the ground up for mass appeal and ended up failing. Nothing about this game was supposed to be niche.
@@faedrenn It appealed to the niche of people who have no money, no taste and no sense.
I love how the guy who created Fallout flat out says "This is what it's about." and all these nutjobs are arrogant enough to tell him he's wrong.
I'm sorry - but I can't feel sorry for anyone in this BS! Why is it that we feel "sorry" for people in certain occupations when they make a SHIT product and then get fired? Saying "well they are not the ones calling the shots" - then SURE you are correct - HOWEVER - why does that make them qualify for us caring about them? THEY stuck around and continued working on this crap! THEY had LITERAL YEARS to find another job within the industry! Listen - yes - I agree that losing your job SUCKS! It's not a nice thing - however IF you stuck around with a shit company making a shit product - THAT'S ON YOU! And if you couldn't spot the failure of these products from MILES away - then I'm sorry - YOU are incompetent and should not make games and then charge me money for them! The argument that the "games industry" is "hard" - is nonsense! There are TONS of WAY harder industries - so having to feel "sorry" for this particular industry workers over ALL the others - is DUMB AF! Find a company working on a product you can get behind - and then send a job application... Or sign on to one of the many smaller devs making new and innovative games to leave a lasting impact on the industry.......... instead of developing yet another game in Frostbite - or whatever other crappy PoS the big boy company you work at is using! These people aren't "victims" - STOP IT!
Hear! Hear!
the first people who actually let Cavill cook are gonna profit so hard
aaah yes, the Reddit communists that would never move to China or Russia
I dont see any credence to the "stolen" Ace of Spades art. The fan art in question is nearly identical to the original model. And the Nerf blaster is also nearly identical to the original... turns out when people draw 2 pictures based on the same thing, those 2 pictures can look very similar.
What annoys me most about modern fallout fans they think ghouls are zombies or undead they are not dead they are survivors of a nuclear blast, so the fallout show and fallout 4 treat ghouls like zombies when they are very much alive.
They're tourists, not actual fans.
Do they treat Ghouls like zombies? Last time I played Fallout 4, I didn't really see that, only the Feral Ghouls, which makes sense, since they basically lost all thinking.
At this point they think the outer worlds is about war and not capitalism.
That isn't true for Fallout 4. They mention that ghouls are humans multiple times.
Im pretty sure most people get that Ghouls are just irradiated humans but im not surprised if they see feral ghouls as zombies since they are pretty close to that.
Vault-tec, West-tec, Robco, Nuka-cola Corp, etc, were never the main antagonists of Fallout. I mean sure, they did some really messed up things, some much worse than others, but by the time the events of the games happen, all of those companies are gone, dead, dust.
- Fallout 1: An army of mutants, a spooky cult that worships them, and the leader of both: A mutated, psychic blob who thinks that replacing everyone with mutants will solve all of the world's ills.
- Fallout 2: The ruthless, genocidal remnants of the United States government, hellbent on creating their perfect America via poisoning the entire continent with a bioweapon.
- Fallout tactics: An Insane Supercomputer with a legion of robots. Flaws in it's protocols and damage to it's processors leading it to wipe out all living things it encounters.
- Fallout 3: *See Fallout 2*
- Fallout New Vegas: Either a terrifying and ruthless warlord with an army of slavers and/or an egotistical and corrupt general with an army of Californians. Both of whom want to conquer Hoover Dam and Las Vegas in the name of the Emperor/President.
- Fallout 4: Either a morally bankrupt scientific community that uses androids as spies and footsoldiers and who sees all other people as guinea pigs, a group of self proclaimed "freedom fighters" who love Androids a little too much, a fanatical paramilitary group that hates mutants and non-humans a little too much and wants to own all of the advanced technology in the world and leave everyone else in the stone age, or all of the above.
- Fallout 76: A deadly zombie virus that was created by the same government remnants from Fallout 2 and 3. It is also controlled by a giant eyeless bat.
Can some one please explain to me, how hello games can afford doing such massive FREE updates for so long?
Especially since almost every other dev demands lots of money from microtransactions and you have to buy every piece of a bigger add on these days?
Does hello games some shady dark buisness going on, which gives them that much of mysterious cash?
My guess is they are their own studio without investors still selling an amazing product. They do not involve market which ruins a lot of games due to the greedy recommendations they make to take away content and ignore broken games being pushed out. They kept their word and have a great addictive product.
They are a small studio with little upkeep costs.
Its official that wukong now had been downloaded the most downloaded game in usa , Mexico , Canada , Japan , EU ,UK
"Retiring" the character of Geralt is a dumb move.
Seems like people are really getting used to not owning Ubisoft stocks.
In Fallout lore, China launched the nukes first because the United States was developing the Forced Evolutionary Virus and China knew they couldn't stop an army of Super Mutants wearing the Red, White, and Blue.
I thought it was because we had invaded mainland China after kicking them out of Alaska?
Their intent wasn't super mutants...but super soldiers. They didn't know what FEV was going to do. It was also part of the project to have the Pan Immunity project against the New Plague. Essentially, no one really knows who shot first. The American gov't knows China launched nukes and launched a counter attack, but we don't know if Vault Tec had anything to do with goading them into action. There are a lot of shadow factions in game.
Sadly, fanart actually falls under the IP holder's rights and does not belong to the artist. Nintendo taught us that. Unless the fan art was a completely unique design, they are not protected by any licensing restrictions. Not that I am saying I believe it is right, because I don't. It's the sole reason I have never done any fanart other than anime
The only reason they think Fallout is a critique of capitalism is because it is set in America. If it was set in China, where the decaying wasteland all around would have been made by communism, then they'd think it was a critique of communism. But in the Fallout world I bet post-war America is doing way better than post-war China. So, I could see that its actually because of capitalism that we survive!
I hate mobile commenting. Anyway, mainland China likely had more bioweapon use than mainland us, since you know, we invaded them in fallout
its funny to think that the ps5 pro will cost 700 to 1,000 usd around the world because Concord failed.
I think personally "War, war never changes." doesn't really fit in Fallout. Sure there was a war that ended everything, but throughout all the games except New Vegas. Do we actually get to see any opposing idologies or religions or just factions go to war? Sure you have raiders and the like but that isn't war, that's survival. What exactly do the Kahns believe in that makes them slavers? Nothing they just are in fallout 1. None of the settlements really have beef with one another either. You have factions in fallout 4 that want eachother gone. But with zero player agency nothing ever comes about. You never see skirmishes between them or any other kind of conflict. Even in New Vegas we see little of the conflict, not even seeing a single battle between the main factions till the very end of the game. If you want it to be about conflict fine but Fallout has fallen very short on portraying the various aspects of "why" we go to war save "resources".
Thank you for your objective, nin-emotionally charged coverage. I just want to hear what's going on in the industry, not be screamed at about it. You one of the top reporters in my eyes, keep it up.
The whole Fallout argument is just dumb. What an Author intended to say and what an individual takes away from the work are not in conflict with each other. Just because someone saw an anti-capitalist message in Fallout doesn't mean that was the authors intent. And just because it wasn't the authors intent doesn't mean someone can't see an anti-capitalist message in it. Just look at Upton Sinclair's "The Jungle".
"Go to the beach for a year." Are you fucking kidding me??? You don't pay your employees enough to go to the beach for a WEEKEND!!