Wolfi I have a PhD and I'm spending my free time watching another guy with a PhD eat a 40-year-old cake. That almost makes it academic. Maybe ***** and I should publish.
Are you sure??, the Americans use the month then the day then the year, so this date is the 11th of Twentyfourthtember rather than the 24th of November like we would use.
According my Grandfather they looked like that when new. He also said it was dry. My Grandfather said that they would poke holes in the top of the cake and put some water on the top then warm it in a fire or on a vehicles exhaust. My Dad would always trade huge containers of coffee for like amounts of tea with the British soldiers because the American mess hall always had tons of coffee but never any tea. It was a win win trade for everyone. My Grandfather said that they where still being issues miltary rations from WWII and Korea well into the 1980's until they brought MRE's online. They would sample a lot and if it was still good they would re-stamp the best buy date for another 11 years. From what I understand this was more common with the meat's because they did not go rancid a often as vegetable oil and grain related products. So tuna, potted meat, ham, ham and egg's etc.... My Grandfather did get botulism(sp) once and it almost killed him and it was related to eating canned rations.
Damn....tell him thanks for his service!!! Military is never fun .-. And another way to help a dry cake is use some butter and warm it. The people who made it prob didn't put enough water in it....and to much flour
Big Bob's Beepers Um... iluminbotomy is to blame? Big Bob's Beepers, all start with 3 b's, 3b = dE, dE = dongElbow = dongelberg(!) = fairy godparents = timmy turner = cak from the intro!!! Omg ilmaneiwbcbskptnami is to blame after all!!!!!!!!!
Having accidentally put expired fried onion things into my soup once, I can say that rancid fat is one of the worst tastes out there. I was on a camping trip, and we tested one and it tasted fine, but when we put just a few into the soup, the fat melted and permeated the whole pot. It was inedible after that, and the taste remained in my mouth even after drinking about a liter of water. And it was only a year out of date!
I had expired tortilla strips once, put them on a taco salad and dry heaved from the taste. I have no idea what did it but it was the worse food experience I ever had. Also - enjoy coming back to this video after 8 years
Ah, another ridiculously old food opening, one of my favourite types of Ashens video! This one comes close to Stuart's record of oldest food date, which was the candy ration at 45 - though both are probably rations from the Vietnam war. Also, I've got that very same tin opener! Lovely. :P
"if it head is up your dead .....if it's tail is up your dead.....if it lies flat your dead.....if it's head and tail are up your in love" ....... "Oh actually if it's head and tail are up your dead"
Some info; that was packed on 24 November, 1970. Vietnam-era MCI rations, generally they're still good and safe to eat, if not tasty; then again, MCIs never were the peak of culinary capability.
TheRussianJuice Rations kind of make sense, someone probably just threw all their military stuff in the attic when they got back from Vietnam and forgot about it
Jordan O'C vacuum sealed cans are a thing, most of them are to get out all the oxygen so that bacteria cannot grow, but yes it can also be gases from decay coming out. alot of the military stuff is vacuumed sealed as well.
Jordan O'C Maybe the contents were heated up quite a bit when it was packaged. It`s more likely that rot has caused it to bulge and that`s why the air is escaping, but it COULD be the first reason. Maybe.
Jordan O'C Aerobic bacteria and fungi can't grow very well in a vacuum environment and also prevents evaporation. This is why you get jars with the push to test if fresh button on the lid as if the vacuum is lost then the button on the lid will click.
I'm actually surprised that these cakes went 'bad' in such a (relatively) short period, considering there have been canned foods found over 100 years after their canning date that have been scientifically determined as still safely edible. Back in 2009, a Vietnam War vet took a bite of one of these very same ration pound cakes and was completely fine. Also, random history tidbit, apparently Morton House Kitchens was purchased by Lipton in 1966 and closed down in 1982, and the building burned in August 1984.
I'm stunned by how short the ingredients lists are. Nowadays, the amount of additives in something as simple as a cake would double the size of those lists.
A firm chocolatey cake, with delicious almonds and vanilla. Baked with fresh ingredients in Nebraska, so good, it'll make you feel like golden stardust! I now suddenly feel like writing something like this for every prehistoric food he's eaten...
Crosby, Stills, Nash, & Young did the best version of "Woodstock". Didn't learn until recently that the chorus goes, "We are stardust, we are golden, we are billion year-old carbon...", which is pretty nifty.
This is a pecan nut roll used in the US Army K ration, used from 1942 to 1980. These were used primarily as a supplement to the K ration and packed separately and given to each soldier. So lets get this onto a tray. Nice!
Imagine approaching the person who bought this in their regular groceries and telling them that forty years from now, some guy would be eating this cake to show the world using a piece of equipment not readily available to their time period yet.
I have eaten a lot of poundcake before. And I am actually astonished by the looks of it from the can. Visually and physically, it represents current American poundcake. Simply put... quite an accomplishment.
The chocolate one would be worse as nuts do ferment... But anyway, I love how the military literally protects all of us and we thank them with the worst food... Yes, I know these are out of date, but let's be honest, they probably tasted the same when they were in date
When my father did his military service in the very late 70s they were issued chocolate bars from 1939.... No one dared eat them so they just boiled them up with milk and made really weird military hot chocolate haha
"Ooh, it's quite greasy. Look at that, some official 70's grease there. It's the word, it's the time and emotion. It got groove it got feeling doo doo doo doodoo. Why does the car fly at the end, thats weird."
Me wife sees the brown heap on a plate: „Urgh, what is that?“ Me: „Cake that was made in 1970 or that expired in 1970.“ Me wife: „Goodbye!“ - leaves the room.
When I was in the Scouts one of the other kids found a C-ration in a backpack they bought from an Army surplus store and it was fine. This was back in the 90's so they've had a couple more decades to decay
I am still amazed that Ashens has not gotten a horrible case of Botulism and died from eating this stuff. I'd never do it, but watching a British man eat massively expired food and complain about it is endlessly entertaining.
***** I think your couch is the only couch I looked at for many hours haha! Thanks yet again for risking your life to show us what ancient food looks and tastes like! ;-)
When I was in the California National Guard (1964), we had C-Rations frog just shortly after the Korean was, 1953 - 1956. Had both of your selections at one time or another. Like herdtack in the 1800s, just soak it in water or coffee to soften it up. Yummy! :-))
Cheers to ashens. He has a PHD but he spends his free time eating 40 year old cake.
Wolfi What does he have a PhD for? Tatology?
Wolfi And makes hundreds of thousands doing it.
Psychology.
Rather ironic considering what we saw in his recent Jar Jar Binks review.
Wolfi I have a PhD and I'm spending my free time watching another guy with a PhD eat a 40-year-old cake. That almost makes it academic. Maybe ***** and I should publish.
Makingnewnamesisdumb Psychology, I believe. So his title is Dr. Stuart Ashen.
The chicken that laid the eggs used in the cake lived during the 60s...
70s*
+becky mcnamee 1970 not 1970s
Considering it was in a can, and expired in '70, the chicken was alive in the '60s.
TrashSplash Tucker yep
becky mcnamee nope 60s
Dr. Ashen,
I hope we don't hear news one day that you have died from poisoning. Be careful with these things.
Sincerely,
A concerned viewer
t0f0b0 With how much he has already eaten and with how little he actually eats of the stuff, he'll be fine.
***** But there's always botulism.
Big Bob's Beepers He has garnered an immunity to anything inedible. He could eat solid bricks of raw sewage, and still live.
VladtheImpaler31 So, not eating surströmming was purely a matter of taste?
LannaDru even a man with a metal stomach draw the line at that
I'm four days older than the chocolate nut roll and my nuts haven't turned black, so that's a win.
I think this is older than Ashen himself
Are you sure??, the Americans use the month then the day then the year, so this date is the 11th of Twentyfourthtember rather than the 24th of November like we would use.
@thesunreport What do you call the 31st month?
You still alive?😊
Congrats 🎉
Ashens: "Oh god, releasing of gas there..."
Steve1989: "Nice hiss."
Only saw the thumbnail. "Oh good jesus, Ashens is now literally eating feces" I thought.
Would probably taste better though?
tubeincompetence Compared to modern MRE eggs a cesspool soup is preferable
wee1owen12 And suddenly, you have given someone, somewhere, an idea of something to send him.
Thomas Wildrabbit *feces It can be spelled either way depending on where you live
wee1owen12 isnt it lovely...
70's air came out the can
time in a can
According my Grandfather they looked like that when new. He also said it was dry. My Grandfather said that they would poke holes in the top of the cake and put some water on the top then warm it in a fire or on a vehicles exhaust.
My Dad would always trade huge containers of coffee for like amounts of tea with the British soldiers because the American mess hall always had tons of coffee but never any tea. It was a win win trade for everyone.
My Grandfather said that they where still being issues miltary rations from WWII and Korea well into the 1980's until they brought MRE's online. They would sample a lot and if it was still good they would re-stamp the best buy date for another 11 years. From what I understand this was more common with the meat's because they did not go rancid a often as vegetable oil and grain related products. So tuna, potted meat, ham, ham and egg's etc....
My Grandfather did get botulism(sp) once and it almost killed him and it was related to eating canned rations.
Damn....tell him thanks for his service!!! Military is never fun .-. And another way to help a dry cake is use some butter and warm it. The people who made it prob didn't put enough water in it....and to much flour
4 years later and your comment was still awesome. I thank your grandfather for his service
And his grandson is a weeb....shame
@@AverageAlien A lot better than you for sure, beats being another one of those clickbait channels.
@@tiffanyjoy4578 What clickbait? Point it out
The first cake literally looked like a pile of shit after it's been dismantled.
Big Bob's Beepers Are you a cake?
Skawo
Don't you know who "Big Bob" Pataki of Big Bob's Beepers is?
Of *course* he's a cake! Some might even say a Swiss cake roll.
Skawo Aren't we all truly a cake on the inside?
Big Bob's Beepers Um... iluminbotomy is to blame? Big Bob's Beepers, all start with 3 b's, 3b = dE, dE = dongElbow = dongelberg(!) = fairy godparents = timmy turner = cak from the intro!!! Omg ilmaneiwbcbskptnami is to blame after all!!!!!!!!!
Kilted Gorilla If you mean mushy, moldy, unhealthy and of bad ingredients? Than I guess we are.
Having accidentally put expired fried onion things into my soup once, I can say that rancid fat is one of the worst tastes out there. I was on a camping trip, and we tested one and it tasted fine, but when we put just a few into the soup, the fat melted and permeated the whole pot. It was inedible after that, and the taste remained in my mouth even after drinking about a liter of water. And it was only a year out of date!
@@JakeGutteridge What do I drink to remove the taste of black coffee of my mouth.
I had expired tortilla strips once, put them on a taco salad and dry heaved from the taste. I have no idea what did it but it was the worse food experience I ever had.
Also - enjoy coming back to this video after 8 years
@@dionysus6892whatever oil they fried them with went rancid
Get on with it and go for the grand finale: break into your local museum and gnaw on a 100 million year old dinosaur fossil.
Most fossils on display are reproductions, the actual fossils are in carefully controlled storage.
@@IanC14 oh wow , didn’t know that
"It's gone hard over the years"
Yeah, cake does that. That's how you legally prove it is a cake and not a biscuit.
How do you prove it illegally?
+knocknockify by legal definition, I guess
***** With a great deal of care. You see, all you need to do is
Are you referencing that weird Jaffa Cake lawsuit? Or is that just a peculiar coincidence?
Sebastian Lacroix Yes.
"Oh there's no release of gas this time, that's impossibly-" *Can hisses with gas*, *Sighs*
Rot Dust. Every video we come up with a new 70s punk band, and that's the one for today.
Ah, another ridiculously old food opening, one of my favourite types of Ashens video! This one comes close to Stuart's record of oldest food date, which was the candy ration at 45 - though both are probably rations from the Vietnam war. Also, I've got that very same tin opener! Lovely. :P
You are one of my favourite youtube poopers :D and I found you exactly where I expected .........on Ashens channel XD
"if it head is up your dead .....if it's tail is up your dead.....if it lies flat your dead.....if it's head and tail are up your in love" .......
"Oh actually if it's head and tail are up your dead"
ThePlamzJoker I'm just waiting till someone finds some WW2 rations...
***** Is that even possible?! xD
ThePlamzJoker (insert your joke about orican... merican...)
Lol I love how casual Ashens sounds when he says "Absolutely f***ing fantastic" when looking at the date on the other cake 😛
How many times has this poor man had to go to the hospital to get his stomach pumped?
I fear one of these days we are going to lose Ashens...
Isn't this *the* oldest thing he's eaten at this point?
***** Yo momma
***** Fancy seeing you around... I doubt you remember me.
Gliv Gluv I can't say the name rings a bell...
What about that century egg from many moons ago?
TheTMBvideos I don't think they're actually 100 years old.
that was baked 2 years before my mom was born...
Cool story bro.
Big Bob's Beepers cool
MrSlushiePuppie nope, I'm hard boiled.
Spartan - 500 mine too
Your mother is pretty young.
Some info; that was packed on 24 November, 1970. Vietnam-era MCI rations, generally they're still good and safe to eat, if not tasty; then again, MCIs never were the peak of culinary capability.
This makes no sense but ashens videos make me feel nostalgic even when they're new
I think that's the magic he playin with
Why do people have super old food laying around?
TheRussianJuice probably in an old box in the attic and found it 30 years later in a cleanup
TheRussianJuice For Ashens apparently
The wonders of the back of a cupboard
TheRussianJuice Rations kind of make sense, someone probably just threw all their military stuff in the attic when they got back from Vietnam and forgot about it
You don't have any because you're Russian, and the Government takes all your shit.
or is it air rushing _into_ the can?
***** Why would there be a vacuum in the can?
Jordan O'C vacuum sealed cans are a thing, most of them are to get out all the oxygen so that bacteria cannot grow, but yes it can also be gases from decay coming out.
alot of the military stuff is vacuumed sealed as well.
***** hhhhhhhhhhhhhuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuummmmmmmmmmmm1 THE MABSS
Jordan O'C Maybe the contents were heated up quite a bit when it was packaged. It`s more likely that rot has caused it to bulge and that`s why the air is escaping, but it COULD be the first reason. Maybe.
Jordan O'C Aerobic bacteria and fungi can't grow very well in a vacuum environment and also prevents evaporation. This is why you get jars with the push to test if fresh button on the lid as if the vacuum is lost then the button on the lid will click.
eating cake that was made before you, how delicous!
I find these old food videos educational in case of a zombie apocalypse to see how good canned food will be good in years during and after.
I'm actually surprised that these cakes went 'bad' in such a (relatively) short period, considering there have been canned foods found over 100 years after their canning date that have been scientifically determined as still safely edible.
Back in 2009, a Vietnam War vet took a bite of one of these very same ration pound cakes and was completely fine.
Also, random history tidbit, apparently Morton House Kitchens was purchased by Lipton in 1966 and closed down in 1982, and the building burned in August 1984.
Ironically, "Go for the pound cake" is my lifes motto...
I'm stunned by how short the ingredients lists are. Nowadays, the amount of additives in something as simple as a cake would double the size of those lists.
Indeed, I agree. Either that or the ingredients were leaving things out then intentionally, but I doubt that.
to quote Dexter's Lab : "the horror.. the horror.. the horror"
A firm chocolatey cake, with delicious almonds and vanilla. Baked with fresh ingredients in Nebraska, so good, it'll make you feel like golden stardust!
I now suddenly feel like writing something like this for every prehistoric food he's eaten...
I understand that reference
@@mccarthy5825which?
I should really keep a canned food for the next 30 years so a new innocent soul can feast on it.
These are the types of videos that made me love this channel. Please do more food stuff
I wonder how is it possible you aren't dead yet?
He actually feeds it to his hostages that he keeps stuffed within the couch. Also hi Mitsuru-senpai! :D
***** Why hello there 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆
Mitsuru Kirijo How's Akihiko?
Mitsuru Kirijo He's with Shinji now :c
Persona 4 cast 4 lyfe
This cake tastes like Egoraptor.
Plersh Plershington In it's prime, it was great but now it's just gone off a bit and lost it's appeal?
Rectal Rectifyer (Smedis2) I think you just encompassed everything that needs to be said perfectly
CMON! EGORAPTOR WOULD HAVE CHANGE FOR 20!
Egoraptor delivers the pizza on time.
Plersh Plershington I'M NOT EVEN SELLING CAKES!
Crosby, Stills, Nash, & Young did the best version of "Woodstock". Didn't learn until recently that the chorus goes, "We are stardust, we are golden, we are billion year-old carbon...", which is pretty nifty.
Should have let those cakes turn 50 :(
Now that you mention it, 'Half-Century Pound Cake' does have a certain ring to it.
Obviously Him True. They died so young T_T
Hahaha
Big Bob's Beepers But that means waiting another 56 years as opposed to only 6! Besides, 50 years is a milestone I think.
Big Bob's Beepers Perhaps.
That reference... IT TASTES LIKE EGORAPTOR!
I never imagined Dr. Ashen making a reference to Arin's video. I think I can die happily now.
Ashens really ought to do an MRE collab with Steve1989
I'm almost certain I've seen this dessert in one of his Vietnam War era MRE reviews...
That would most certainly be the holy grail of mre reviews
Ashens: Oh god...
SteveMRE: Nice hiss!
I farted when he said gas release
Rylington !!!!!!!! Holy shit XD
'u'
This is a pecan nut roll used in the US Army K ration, used from 1942 to 1980. These were used primarily as a supplement to the K ration and packed separately and given to each soldier. So lets get this onto a tray. Nice!
Ashens logic in every food video
"Mm mmm"
*Finishes eating*
"What the fuck was that!"
Ah Stuart what would we do without you
I'm actually really glad that I clicked on something in my recommended for once... ashens, you're hilarious XD
Lmao...that fucking profile pic got me fooled.
GG.
F a n c y F e a s t I s Y u m Y u m I n M y T u m T u m dude there is a fly on your profilepic :0
your stomach must be made of mini chuck norris's if you can take all this old, rotten, horrible food.
Nah, just a lifetime of eating British food.
+FreedFenrir savage
+FreedFenrir savage
savage
+FreedFenrir what a coincedence you said that on july 4th. :-D
*pops out of tin*
"Hey, man, did they ever finish building the World Trade Center?"
The cow that made the milk in this cake has been dead 50 years
This guy tests all the food you would have to eat if the "Fallout Series" became reality. lol :P
That intro tho
Da ding da ding da dong BLEURGH!
lol
Ashens just made an Egoraptor reference.
Ashens for Guest Grumps confirmed.
"well, at least theres no release of GAS this" (more release of gas, than last) "... talked that one up, didn't i?" always make me laugh. X3
O_O He just ate a piece of 44 year old cake. He's a very brave man.
Never expected to see Ashens quote Egoraptor!
Imagine approaching the person who bought this in their regular groceries and telling them that forty years from now, some guy would be eating this cake to show the world using a piece of equipment not readily available to their time period yet.
This probably isn't the best video to be watching when I have a stomach bug!
I'd love to see Ashens eat old military rations some more.
Earliest I've ever been to a video!
Nikolai Smirnoff yep 7 minutes ago for me!
1 hour to me :(
The earliest I have ever been was when it said "0 seconds ago"
Nikolai Smirnoff i was here 10 years early
Big Bob's Beepers HACKS!!! LOOMITEZ CUNFURMD!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
The song Woodstock that you're thinking of was actually by Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young, which was a cover of a Joni Mitchell song.
How in the name of Heaven and Hell have you not been killed by eating these kind of things!?
Shh...don't ask him if he says anything the government shut his channel down.
Mr.Triggerhappy He's the man with the cast iron stomach. Though I hear that his farts can blast the paint off walls at ten paces.
Mr.Triggerhappy Not only does he not swallow, he follows it up with gargling a pint of Tesco gin.
yadabub Reminds me of a few of my ex partners.
I have eaten a lot of poundcake before. And I am actually astonished by the looks of it from the can. Visually and physically, it represents current American poundcake. Simply put... quite an accomplishment.
He describes the foul taste in such a proper British manner. If it was me, I'd be like, "Ew this is nasty. Blurrrrrrgh"
Stormwatcher As an Australian I'd be swearing more.
As a Canadian, I would apologize to the viewers.
I don't know why I find it relaxing when you open a can of old food😂
The chocolate one would be worse as nuts do ferment... But anyway, I love how the military literally protects all of us and we thank them with the worst food... Yes, I know these are out of date, but let's be honest, they probably tasted the same when they were in date
When my dad was in Vietnam, he loved the Pound Cake dessert. :)
I thought Americans dated things differently from here... Odd
Robert Byrne Comes down to personal preference a lot of the times
Andrew Schofield Except for the military where the designation is Day, Month, Year. On many forms today's date would be written 18May2015.
Robert Byrne In the military it is kind of important to get it right,
Robert Byrne American military use day/month/year, alongside metric system, etc.
***** Just like in Germany.
When my father did his military service in the very late 70s they were issued chocolate bars from 1939.... No one dared eat them so they just boiled them up with milk and made really weird military hot chocolate haha
"Woodstock" was by Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young
That's a cover. The original was released in 1970, by Joni Mitchell.
"No release of gas..."
*Gas rushes out of the tin*
😛
I WONT SUM POUND CEKE!
I wish they still made cakes like this that would be something fun at food fights.
4:50 “cook it in a dog pound” absolutely got me
should anyone ever drop a rot bomb...ashens will be immune.
this is top viewing. The BBC should give you regular fixture on primetime TV to do a series on old food.
*chuckles like a fat nerd at the pound cake joke*
I love your food shows. I've always had an odd fascination about this sort of thing, but you eating it is something you're on your own with :p
Somebody, send Ashens something edible. Clearly, things are dire if he can calmly talk about the flavour of something rotten!
Just 30 seconds in and he already said "blimey" and "marvellous". I'm not disappointed.
How old can food get before you straight up says no to it
sadaros95 1000 years
sadaros95 100.000.000.000.000 years so there is nothing in the universe he will say no to (for now).
If its in an air tight can it doesn't matter could be as old as time it would still be fine.
Master Chef 'fine' is subjective lol. No foreign nasties in it but the degraded ingredients could still pose an issue
sadaros95
exactly 100 years ... that's why he refuses to ever do century eggs again
>eats 44 year old cake
>Stomach starts to hurt
>Everything starts turning black
>Passes out
>Wakes up on carriage
>Hey, you're finally awake
I imagined that as the beginning of Fallout: New Vegas.
Welcome to the under 301 club, how tough are ya?
How tough am I
I ate a bowl of milk this morning
Without any milk
I ate a tooth paste tube and down it with a tall glass of window cleaner.
yes i did
"Ooh, it's quite greasy. Look at that, some official 70's grease there. It's the word, it's the time and emotion. It got groove it got feeling doo doo doo doodoo. Why does the car fly at the end, thats weird."
Apparently Morton House Kitchens burned down in 1984
i miss the food specials so i have to rewatch them in 2024
Pound"land" cake.
29th of October 1970. 30 years and a day after I was born. Amazing.
nothing like a good out of date cake...
It's an insult to actual good date cakes. Too punny.
Me wife sees the brown heap on a plate: „Urgh, what is that?“
Me: „Cake that was made in 1970 or that expired in 1970.“
Me wife: „Goodbye!“ - leaves the room.
Is this it? Is this where Ashens dies?
7Ryong7 Yes .
Spoiler alert!
Nope. Still alive mid 2021
When I was in the Scouts one of the other kids found a C-ration in a backpack they bought from an Army surplus store and it was fine. This was back in the 90's so they've had a couple more decades to decay
Go for a pound cake.
Golden words sir
I am still amazed that Ashens has not gotten a horrible case of Botulism and died from eating this stuff. I'd never do it, but watching a British man eat massively expired food and complain about it is endlessly entertaining.
holy shit. that's older than my parents
***** I think your couch is the only couch I looked at for many hours haha! Thanks yet again for risking your life to show us what ancient food looks and tastes like! ;-)
Hey Ryu, can I have a cookie?
***** shoryuken
***** Holy shit people got the ref.
***** thank god im not the only one who got it.
illliadin indi i got scared too
Bro im getting old, its all about drake and whipping it today.
When I was in the California National Guard (1964), we had C-Rations frog just shortly after the Korean was, 1953 - 1956. Had both of your selections at one time or another. Like herdtack in the 1800s, just soak it in water or coffee to soften it up. Yummy! :-))
you mean Crosby Stills and Nash?
Bloody hell, Ashens.That choclate cake was packed exactly 10 years before I was born!
I'm curious. In this video you pronounce it "Greasy", yet in others you say "Greazy". Ashens, how do you say the word "Greasy"?
FlamingYeti however the fuck he likes yo
I am now listening to the Matthews Southern Comfort Band while watching a guy eat 44 year old cake.
Just as the universe intended.
Such luck I came over this video on the 24/11